Jumpchain CYOA Thread #754: Angels and Angles

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Behold, the jump nobody asked for! Will probably make the formatting a bit less ugly in the future.

Add another tally to the list of waifu jumps, folks.

>>46231289
Is this more lewd shit we'll have to ban?

>>46230231
>Heros don't seem to have an items section
Already acknowledged I fucked that one up.

>Squid Ink still hasn't been benchmarked beyond NLF
Will probably be in the notes section.

>personally I find it odd so many drawbacks are restricted to origins
They're restricted to races, not origins. I mean, I can change it, if it's that big of a deal, but I didn't think it was.

There'll be more general drawbacks added anyway, though.

>>46231366
What the fuck are you talking about? This seems no more offensive than Sekirei or DxD.

>>46231463
I'm asking because I don't know the series. 'Seems' isn't a confirmation.

>>46231366
It's about the same level as DxD, to be honest. The lewd itself isn't part of the actual plot, thankfully.

>>46231463
Puritan Anon has been getting worse as of late. I think he sees any type of fanservicey anime making on the drive a personal failure he has to atone for the next time.

>>46231496
Is it ecchi or outright hentai?

>>46231523
Wrong. I just asked a question, bogeyman obsessed idiot.

>>46231527
Ecchi.

Also, damn it, I'm already seeing things I needed to fix. Give me a bit, anons.

>>46231366
I don't think so. From what I can tell from a cursory glance at the wiki, it's like Highschool DxD in that the anime is somewhat lewd, but the setting doesn't necessarily mandate lewdness. There are other things to do than fuck, it's just the protagonist who can't see beyond his own dick.

>>46231527
>the same level as DxD

It's obviously ecchi.

>>46231560
Also you probably neither care nor think it's a big deal but you come across like an abrasive, judgemental douche who doesn't actually read what he critiques.

>>46231562
>>46231573
Alright, thank you for answering my question instead of being like >>46231523 and calling me a bogeyman.

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Jumpers, what do you do with the time in worlds after the main story there ends?

>>46231560
I'm bogeyman obsessed but you have to jump immediately to asking if a anime based Jump is hentai or not?

Every vigilant, that's puritan anon for you.

>>46231289
Is Rule Breaker like, indestructible-indestructible? Could you theoretically bean the Lord of Nightmares over the head with it? I'm not familiar with the series but it honestly looks like a better piece of weapon equipment than a healing item as written.

>>46231625
Build infrastructure, mostly. It's the best way to improve overall quality of life. I try to keep it to comparatively simple things so that the people I've granted it to can maintain and expand it on their own even after I'm gone, but with the sort of education perks a jumper can wield that still makes for a substantial increase in their infrastructure's technology base. Really helps people out.

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>>46231625
Hugs for everyone.

Even the ones who don't deserve it.

Especially them. How else are they going to turn over a new leaf?

>>46231712
It's about as dangerous as a fist-sized piece of rock could normally be. I mean, you COULD, but I'm not sure what it would accomplish. I'll clarify it and make it non-exempt from cosmic shit like that if it's a big enough issue.

>>46231625
Generally? I wander that world and do whatever catches my interest. Sometimes that's chilling with the protagonist awhile longer, sometimes it's hunting rumors, but usually it all falls under the header of "Adventure". I'm a murderhobo without the murder bit.

If the world is still in a state of recovery from the main plot, I'll help with that instead.

>>46231754
I like you.

>>46231289
Oh hey, another Jump! Looks good, glad to have more Jumps coming about. Speaking of Jumps, here's the latest update to the Devil Survivor 2 jump! All that's left is drawbacks and notes!

>>46231366
Nope, it is a bit ecchi but not lewd. It is basically inukami tier.

>>46231755
I don't know... I like CP rocks. For my earthbending and stuff. Took the boulder from Indiana Jones, the Very Magic Rock from Populous, and the Rust rock... an actually indestructable rock could be really fun for my rock-throwing/head-bashing fighting style.

Through resurrecting someone once a jump seems kinda meh honestly,

>>46231870
Yeah, like I said that's cool. I just reacted to a 'surprise' waifu jump, since waifu stuff is often lewd.

>>46231625
Buy every book in the world, see how the new colonies for the Correspondent Empire are coming, go on vacation, teach people, become a painter, work on my skills, improve my tech using the latest good tinkertech or new perks, contribute to the local economy, work as a reporter, fix loose ends, open restaurants, start new schools, write a novel, terraform the moon, release new technology, follow my new friends around, let my companions decide what to do, count down the jumps until I retire.
>>46231869
You have a problem.

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ACK! I SCREWED UP, I SCREWED UP.

>>46231897
What did you do?

>>46231925
He posted >>46231869 and forgot to attach the file. It's getting to be a pattern, Devil Survivor Anon. Are you alright? We worry for you.

>>46231925
Well, I finished the item section, as well as added, and finished, the companion section. Oh, wait, I was going to do an opposite gender 'twin' option...Oops.

>>46231897
YOU FOOOOOOOOL, YOU MADE A MISTAKE. Also Drop-In's and Survivor's items are priced weirdly. Are they supposed to be 50/100/150?

>>46231894
I KNOW, I DONE GOOFED.
>>46231950
I'm just an idiot who keeps forgetting he has to actually attach the file.
>>46231966
Wha-GODDAMN IT. What is UP with me today?! I am really off my game!

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Alright, just made some slight errata related to Incubation Pods and the Pandora Prototype. Clarified Rule Breaker a bit. I MIGHT buff that item or make it more worthwhile in the future, but I'm concerned with jump stability right now.

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ALRIGHT, I FIXED MY MISTAKES. HOPEFULLY. UGH.

>>46232063
Are Synapse Resident perks like Avatar, or Angelroid Combat and Processing perks restricted to Synapse Resident/Angelroid backgrounds like What Pearly Wings & Pearly Gates are? Or can anyone take them?

>>46232278
Angelroid perks are indeed Angelroid-only (should be noted around the start of their list, I think), but Synapse Resident perks are available to other Origins if you can afford them.

>>46231754
What's this from?

>>46232063
Is it possible to learn how to make Synapse tech with the Capstone? It says you can make Angelroids, but I was curious. Also, I noticed that the Avatar perk says that Post-Jump you gain a body that is made for that world. Does that mean that if you jump RWBY, you get an Avatar with Aura?

>>46232399
The answer is no. A good reason for this is that Synapse tech is poorly defined outside of what I managed to stuff into buy-able Gear. Crafting Angelroids is the only perk I was able to make for it without making it vague and abusable.

As for the Avatar, it's mentioned in Notes that trying to give your Avatar supernatural abilities (which Aura would fall under) would make it insta-melt. Giving it 'mild' enhancements like appearance chances or soft biomods would just make it increasingly uncomfortable to interface with.

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>>46232063
Huh. What Beautiful Wings allows me to change /all/ of my wings into white feathered ones? Guess I can now look like the Simurgh whenever I want... nice.

>>46232464
That should say 'appearance changes'. Sorry about that.

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>>46231754
Did someone say Love

Do you ever rip off someone from another setting just to look or sound cooler anons?

>>46232470
That was actually unintentional, but I think I'll consider that a feature instead of a bug. So, yes. That's how it works.

if i go to fate, can my stats be lowered by going servant? or do perks supercede what i've bought. as a side note, would going mage vastly empower the available servants as i would become the apex of that world? or am i a wildcard whose own ability has no bearing on the bar humanity's potential is set to?

>>46232626
The perk stack.

>>46232063
How would an NGE!Angel be ranked in this world? I mean an Unassailable Angel with all the other Angel perks(Not Ineffable though, of course) and all the Metaphysical Biology perks except A Different Branch and High Energy Reaction. The answer will tell me just how dangerous this Jump is for me.

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>>46231869
>All that's left is drawbacks and notes!
And seemingly the jump too.

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>>46232551
Its kinda hard NOT to take inspiration from other things

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>>46232658
I FIXED THAT, THERE IS NO REASON TO DAMAGE MY ALREADY WOUNDED PRIDE ANY FURTHER.

>>46232649
I'm honestly not sure. You'll have to fanwank it. Some of the achievements of the canon characters are a little ridiculous, though (intercontinental laser beams, moving at Mach 24, etc.). A few heads in Synapse will definitely turn once they notice a gigantic creature in the middle of Earth, though. How they react? It's your chain, you tell me.

>>46232626
No. No. They stack on top of what you already have. I have no idea what the last two sentences mean, try rewording your question.

>>46232736
I think he's asking if Servants who have stats like "X times better than human capability" get raised up higher because his presence means that human capability is higher than it would be in canon. I'm pretty sure the answer is no, though, otherwise that would be ridiculous.

>>46231625
Continue my quest of JUSTICE of course.

>>46231754
I approve

>>46231289
Lewd, fuck off.

>>46232722
Hmm, the Unassailable Angel archtype Zeruel no-selled nuclear equivlents WITHOUT his A.T. Field, and with them literally walked(okay, floated) off three at once. How's that?

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>>46232703

>>46232810
Yeah, no. That's really silly. Human capability is based on world records from our world, since that's really the best measure we have and humans in Nasuverse are, mostly, the same as all of us.

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>>46232063
Drawbacks: What is Love? Down With Downers! A Flock of Seagulls (1600)

Synapse Resident, Age 16 (1500)

Hands of Icarus (Free)
Tools of Daedalus (1200)
The Labors of Heaven (1100)
An Eerie Feeling (1000)
Stopwatch (Free)
Dive Game (Free)
The Maker (0)

Oh ye gods, /you have no idea how bad the day we just had was/

So on entry to this reality, a flock of fucking underwear was somehow flying through the depths of outer space. Nobody seemed to care-but then again, this was space NEET central. So we delegated a subdivided avatar to investigate this silliness on Earth.

Where some sort of defective gynoid started firing lasers at us. We've still got a massive metaphysical cracked rib from our fight with the Lightbringer so we hightailed it out of there.

All that effort and we've only one deatomised avatar, a whole lot of craters and one predatory loli to show for our efforts. We're pretty sure this was the point where the other Synapses started laughing at us. All of this just motivated us to lock ourself in our space room, program some space vidya and ignore the panicked screams when Chaos started braeching the ship's hull.

And THEN she somehow got near the ship's reactor so we had to get personally involved. Incidentally saving a certain pro-human Synapse researcher from molten shrapnel with two well-timed portals and an impromptu quantum airlock.

Anyway. This Daedalus person seems to have a good head on her shoulders. Admittedly, she's more interesting to talk to than literally everyone here (and less of a jerk than that fucker Minos who we SWEAR is behind the migratory underwear, somehow). We cooked some ramen to eat together. Which drew a crowd because we cook the best ramen ever, but the point is-it was around the point we brought up magical hacking that she persuaded us to get involved with the actual plot.

Apparently a lot of collateral damage could've been saved if some of her creations could be unshackled from their masters.

>>46232063
Damn, I can take everything I want... /if/ I drop Angeloid creation...This is gonna take a while to figure out...

>>46232834
Can you explain what makes it worse than our current jumps?

>>46232876
NO, ANON, SPOILERS. Goddamn it, that fucking slasher grin after you kill Lucifer.

>>46232063
Wow, Angeloid gets a hell of a lot more than all the other origins.

>>46231625
Continue hunting down secrets, look for cool things to hang onto, occasionally act as a bbeg if things get too boring

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>>46232703
>Implying no reasons to damage.

>>46232936
Dude, just ignore him. He won't be happy no matter where your conversation goes.

>>46232946
True to the source material, sadly.

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>>46232959
It's one more GOD, not one more Jumpmaker rejected. Unless...I was the God all along?!

>>46232960
I'm just curious. I reacted to it first but people explained to me it was fine, but this guy comes in acting like it's a problem again and I'm wondering what's up.

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So, in the wake of all these new Jumps, I felt inspired to get off my butt and finish up the last details on my own.

Ring of Red Jump 1.0
Changelog:
+ Intro finished
+ Location fluff finished
+ Note clarifying Crew and Squads in future Jumps.

I won't forget the file this time, I swear.

>>46233051
>not forgetting the file
I'm so proud of you Yorokonde.

>>46233051
You didn't! Congratulations. Seriously, though, looks good.

>>46233051
You did it, Yoro! You're not an incompetent knucklehead mcspazatron like me!

>>46232351
It was the first result on a reverse image search
Kyousougiga

>>46233035
He's just an asshole. Where do you think we are?

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>>46232883
Out of curiosity, would it be reasonable to write a companion imported as a servant while you are a servant as a Noble Phantasm, with the express intent of no mechanical bonuses?

>>46233051
The HEAT shells are incendiaries? Is that something from the game? Because real HEAT warheads are anti-armor, not anti-infantry.

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>>46233092
I know, right? My record was getting pretty bad lately. At least I got the important one right.

>>46233099
Thanks. I really do hope people like it. I love this game, obscure as it is.

>>46233113
I highly doubt you're as bad as all that. Have a muscle girl to cheer you on.

>>46233236
...I appreciate both your support and that wonderful muscle girl. Is she from something, or an original work? Because damn.

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>>46233233
HEAT shells are supposed to be anti-armor primarily, but in the game the shells explode into a huge cloud of flame when they strike. I added in that extra line about them being useful again infantry as well, because honestly, if a tank slammed a fireball shell in my general vicinity, I'm sure it would hurt.

>>46233289
I'm pretty sure she's an original work. I tend to save stuff from all over the internet, so I can't be 100% sure, but I'm relatively certain she's original.

>>46233347
>I added in that extra line about them being useful again infantry as well, because honestly, if a tank slammed a fireball shell in my general vicinity, I'm sure it would hurt.
Fair enough. Sounds like the Ring of Red universe seriously overcharges their powder loads.

>>46233347
You have good taste then Yoro. Quick question, do you need the entire Engineer perk tree, or just the 100cp perk and capstone to create AFWs?

>>46233190
If you want to pretend to be your Servant's Noble Phantasm, go ahead. If you want a companion to be the Servant, you still need to be the Master and you can't both be Servants.

Is there any way for one to become the embodiment of humanity? Im thinking alyana from nasuverse type suff.

>>46233402
...No? If and when I do a jump for SMT Nocturne, you'll be able to become the embodiment of a philosophy/concept as an endgame option, though. So maybe you could become something SIMILAR to that.

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Alright, had to apply the nerfbat ONE MORE TIME for Pandora companions.

>>46233051
Have a build.

>Ring of Red
Age: 27; Location: 7. Poland, September 1, 1939

Drawbacks: Aleister Crowley
Total CP: 1600

Background: Drop In (0/1600)

Perks:
Scrub a Dub Dub (0/1600)
Passport (100/1500)
Contacts (200/1300)
Rebel Without A Cause (300/1000)
Consummate Knowledge (100/900)
Emergency Repair (200/700)
Swiss Army Engineer (600/100)

Items:
Uniforms (3) (0/100)
Ammunition Cache (100/0)

I'm going to go sabotage the Axis war machine and probably go kill Hitler. Again. At least he's not a cyborg this time, right?
...
Right?

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>>46233385
You really just need the capstone to create AFWs. The 200 and 400 CP abilities on the Mechanic trees aren't related to building AFWs in the slightest. The 100 CP ability mainly gives you the ability to repair and maintain them, but if you buy the capstone you get that as part and parcel of knowing how to build one.

>>46232063
Well, here goes.

Age: 22
Angelroid [200]
Location: A crater just outside of Sorami
>perks:
Unique Data Signature [Free]
What Beautiful Wings [Free] Best wings perk. Gonna be Simurgh-ing it up now.
Pearly Gates [Free]
Tools of Daedalus [600] Gotta build stuff. the AI part is especially nice, considering how much I use those
Angelroid Body [Free]
Second Generation Angelroid [400] Not gonna sacrifice stuff, I think.
Imprinting System [Free]
Broken Chain [Free]
Hands of the Forge [100] Gotta upgrade, don't I?
Prototype Pandora System [300] Yes. Yes, I do gotta upgrade myself.
>items:
Angelroid Outfit [Free] Oookay...
Infinite Supply of Watermelon [Free] I like watermelons. This is nice.
>drawbacks:
The Jumper In Synapse [+0] Target locked, Incinerating. He's within my kill range. I'll send one of my Hiveminded bodies there to take over for him.
A Flock of Seagulls [+100] What. Just, what.
Down with Downers! [+200] A God Am I?
What Is Love? [+300] "Oh? Hello. You can stop stabbing me now, I don't feel pain. Yes, yes, that was my arm. I grew a new one now, no biggie."

So... how much of a boost does Pandora give to other cybernetics?

>>46233446
What did you change?

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>>46233451
Oh my. A daring Jump indeed. I really didn't expect Crowley to come up to the plate right off the bat. No, Hitler won't be a cyborg, but with Aleister Crowley backing him you can be certain he's got some kind of Chaos Demon final form, along with all kinds of demonically possessed troops and AFWs similar to Warhammer 40k Chaos Dreadnaughts. Good luck with that.

>>46233432
I mean ASA was able to become the embodiment of evil right? Why cant i become the embodiment of humanity. Is it more complex that i think and it cant even be done with the multitude of perks there are?

>>46233461
Well, hey, that's convenient; I was planning on buying the General tree, so that works for me.
>>46233522
Sup, What did you change Anon?
>>46233541
Well, that's different: Evil is an alignment, it's not sentient. Humans are a species, and they ARE sentient.

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>>46233051
Drawback: Aleister Crowley (1600)

Rolled The Japanese War

Commander, Age 28 (1500)

Tactics 101 (Free)
Cooperation (1400)
Fresh Recruits (1200)
Rodriguez's Protege (900)
Contacts (500)
Passport (300)
Scrub a Dub Dub (200)
Emergency Triage (0)

A decade ago, Daedalus and us had a spirited debate on whether violence is a necessary evil or something to be abhored and avoided at all costs. We didn't manage to come to a resolution between the whole slippery slope fallacy and the zero-sum game rebuttel no we were not holding back the Path to Victory's most immediate solution to save her feelings and let her come to her own conclusion, why would you even think that, don't be absurd

But as counterarguments go, nothing quite tops a DEMONIC NAZI INVASION. Especially after we showed her some Mike Mignola comics and explained the whole many-worlds interpretaiton of quantum mechanics as applied to Jumpchain. Also especially after Elodie introduced her to an array of nonlethal high energy weapons.

Since she's getting along with Alita and Kat they'll be testing out the preliminary third-gen Angelroid schematics we're helping her cook up with additional magitech.

Jibril kinda blew her chance when she blew up a nearby hanger in excitement.

As for us-we're summoning the Hierarchy of Laguna, getting Amane to call in Remiel and fusing Metatron himself to go Old Testament on the Nazi menace. Now, all we have to do is explain to Comrade Stalin why shutting down all the churches is a bad, bad idea if he wants our new allies' support.

>>46233446
Duly noted! Not much will change unless I get a hankering for dem drop-in perks later today.

>>46233541
Rider of Humanity in Darksiders should work, unless you take the interpretation that humanity is an infinite concept and shouldn't count.

>>46233568
>Sup, What did you change Anon?
Nothing much. Working on a CYOA and being stressed out from an OCD attack.

>>46233509
It just improves what you have without adding more to it. Weapons will be slightly stronger, scanners more efficient and faster, etc.

>>46233522
Added a ceiling to Pandora gained from Daedalus, Chaos, or Ikaros. For the inevitable jumper who tries to pry it out of them, one way or another.

>>46233592
Should be fine. Jumpmaker said the things that are disallowed are only stuff like "Invincibility", " immortality", "omnipotence" etc.

Whats the perk that lets you be recognized as one of the oldest beings in any universe you go to?

>>46233531
You have no idea how totally okay with that I am.

>>46233592
>Rider of Humanity
I thought you could only use more abstract concepts like time, darkness, chaos, stuff like that? If not, then that works.
>>46233657
Devil Survivor 2's Sword of Polaris makes you literally billions of years old. Whenever that gets completed.

>>46233615
Question, does this heavily nerfed Pandora thing mean that we're basically going to be destroyed in this setting by everyone?

>>46233568
I guess i can see your point.

>>46233592
What would that even let me do ? Would i technically be "humanity" itself?

>>46233657
Making of Myth from Swords and Sorcery? It makes you the ur-legend, the first story predating all other things.

>>46233687
I think it's more so you can't cheese it by abusing companions pre-spark.

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>>46233674
>>46233590
I can certainly see just how okay people are with it, yes.

Oh my, Anti-Spiral Senpai Jumping one of my Jumps. Where are my smelling salts?

>>46233677
Thats good but the one i was talking about came before devil survivor jump.

>>46233687
Against 'normal' Angelroids? Not really. Against early series Chaos without the relevant drawback? Maybe. Against the main cast late in the series? Yeah you should probably take this jump a bit later if you plan on that.

>>46233687
No.

>>46233743
Then why bother jumping it? If you're just going to be destroyed by everyone then you're forced to just hide for ten years. Does that sound fun to you?

>>46233744
The creator disagrees with you.

>>46233773
Because there are ways to interact with people other than violence.

>>46233824
You jump just to talk to people. How boring a life that is.

These are anime, most of them heavily involve combat.

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Actually here's a good thread question for all you long-term jumpers:

How many times have you killed Hitler?

I think Ring of Red makes it four for me:
Platoon
Captain Planet
Lost Valley of the Dinosaurs
Ring of Red

>>46233840
You jump just to beat up people. How boring a life that is.

These are anime, most of them have heavily involve diplomancy.

>>46233773
You asked if you'd be destroyed by everyone without it. He said without other jumps you'd be unable to go up against the absolute peak of in-setting power if you didn't derail things before they reached it. That is not "destroyed by everyone for a whole 10 years" you fuckwit. Do you bitch about marvel being a pointless setting to visit because you can't go fight Doom at his very strongest with just in-jump purchases? Man up, faggot.

>>46233866
Why are you posting like a four year old trying to piss off mom?

>>46233840
>>46233866
Ladies, ladies, you're BOTH boring. But in all seriousness, violence isn't always the answer, first Anon.

>>46233773
>is fine against everybody except the very top tier character
>destroyed by everybody
Shit man, did you complain the marvel jump didn't let you sucker punch the one above all too? Just diplomance them. Or stealth-kill them if you must resort to violence.

>>46233892
Why are you posting like a twelve year old trying to look tough in front of his friends?

>>46233862
Most likely 0 in 100 worlds. I am not big on killing anyways but I rarely go to a places during the time he is alive. Even in marvel I think he was dead by then (Yes, Adolf Hitler was an actual super villain in Marvel comics called Hate Monger; I kid you not).

>>46233950
Hate Monger was Hitler's clone, not Hitler himself.

>>46233867
He said 'later' implying it requires late game power. Meaning reality warping world destroyers. That is destroyed by everyone.

Marvel is a pretty crap jump, to be honest with you.

>>46233909
He only said you could fight the schmucks. The irrelevant nameless minions.

>Marvel again
Are you the same guy or is there a troupe of people who love Marvel as their favorite jump?

>>46233862
Actual Hitler or do Hitler expies count?

>>46233773
>Bleach doesn't put you on Ywach's level
>Naruto doesn't put you on Kaguya's level
>Bayoneta doesn't put you on Jubileus' level
>Forgotten Realms doesn't put you on Ao's level
Beyond that "Not really" doesn't count as disagreeing with "no"

>>46233977
He was a clone with Hitler's consciousness transferred in to it. So it was technically him unless there was some retcon I am unaware of... which is entirely possible.

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>>46233899

>>46233983
>He said 'later' implying it requires late game power. Meaning reality warping world destroyers.
Ok, you just have no idea what you're talking about then.

>>46233983
>Marvel is a pretty crap jump

Well, when you're arguing jumps should only be written to let you one-up the most powerful beings in the setting you're liable to get told you have a pretty crap opinion.

I mean, just look at >>46233998. I bet you're salty DC jump doesn't let you beat up the Endless too.

>>46233998
Bleach makes you competitive at the least. And since when do people hold this up as quality standard?

You can actually reach her level through in-jump actions.

I don't know anything about Bayonetta

Ao isn't a good example because he's not involved nor a main character. A better example is Elminster. Who you can rival. Also since when is THIS a good jump to you?

>>46234030
>All this projection.
More like "I want to be relevant in this setting without being so weak I have to hide or die."

>>46234029
Explain to me how his intent is different from the obvious.

>>46234017
Filename is relevant?

>>46234060
>Bleach makes you competitive at the least. And since when do people hold this up as quality standard?
Agree with you on it being a bad jump, but it definitely does NOT make you competitive with Ywhach. He's far too bullshit for that.

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>>46234080
Maybe, but I kinda saved it referring to the context where Ryu keeps suggesting to use Tatsus as a method of parachuting

Seriously PXZ2's script is a goldmine for things, specially on crossovers

>>46234117
Competitive with the main characters, shoulda said. For the most part.

One of the things in its advantage is that it gives you the capacity to grow, either through training or your own actions. Because of the restrictions, this Lost Property jump does not give you any potential for growth.

>>46234137
Pfft, that's great. I loved Project X Zone, is this one just as good?

>>46234153
>Competitive with the main characters

This is a fucking stupid argument when One Punch Man and Tenchi Muyo are jumps

>>46234183
OPM has more characters in it than Saitama and Tenchi is not a shounen and its perks DO put you on the level of many of the main characters or else don't restrict you from reaching that level for the most part.

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>>46232084
Desire to know more intensifies. This WIP is killing me, I want to jump it so bad.

>>46234153
>Competitive with the main characters, shoulda said. For the most part.
I'd still debate that. It would make you competitive up until the Fullbring arc, after that you're going to get left behind fast if all you've got is in-jump powers. Once the Wandenreich show up the story might as well put up a "You must be this much of a special snowflake to ride this ride" sign.

>>46234183
>>46234202
Speaking of OPM, is that update coming soon?

>>46234060
>Explain to me how his intent is different from the obvious.
... I'm not even sure if you're saying his intent or the obvious is that you need to be ASA, but as it happens that's not true for either of them. He said if you're intending to fight the absolute pinnacle of power the setting can ever reach you might want to push it off for later, meaning you're probably not going to want to do it as a FIRST JUMP, not that you need to be a super-reality-warping-world-killing monster. Physical force will work fine, and not even the peak of what's available in the chain.

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>>46234170
I feel like overall the system in the sequel has more stuff improved, even if it does sometimes get a bit slow it comes with the SRPG style, also turns are finally just player phase/enemy phase instead of how it was in NXC and PXZ1.


Also 2 has Segata Sanshiro and that automatically makes it better

>>46234212
I'm almost finished, Anon. Just got the last couple of drawbacks to complete. Maybe some notes.

>>46234030
I'm fairly satisfied with the Marvel jump, but it's perfectly reasonable for someone to be bummed out the highest they can get is City Level so no playing around in outer space without a ton of jumps under their belt.

I AM, however, salty as shit at the DC jump expecting me to deal with planetary threats that the heavily plot armored street levellers and low-cosmic supers have to team up to fight as a street leveller that actually follows logic and can't rely on the writers to save his hide.

>>46234272
SEGATA FUCKING SANSHIRO IS IN IT?! I mean, Chrome and Lucina are cool too, but WHAT?! AHHHHH. Also, the rest of that sounds great too, is it out in the States yet?

>>46234253
>meaning you're probably not going to want to do it as a FIRST JUMP,
Or he means late in your chain, which is how it reads to me.

>>46233983
>Marvel is a pretty crap jump, to be honest with you.
Eh... Power level-wise the jump isn't that bad. You are most likely powerful enough to join the avengers. It is clearly trying to put you at street level but that's not that bad. It's more a symptom of the time in which it was made. Also if you are creative you can make some pretty powerful and interesting powers.
I know people want to be battling Doom and Magneto but maybe it's understandable that would require a few other jumps under your belt or a lot of friends by your side.

>>46233985
If it looks like a duck and sounds like a duck...

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>>46234312
Shit anon it's been out for a month, it came out the same week as Fire Emblem Fates. Quick man get a copy or DL it on the 3ds store

>>46234396
>Came out the same week as Fire Emblem Fates
What?! That's impossible. Ugh, I should've bought that instead, Fates is being a real disappointment so far. I'll look into it, thanks Anon.

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>>46234436
Yeah I chose PXZ2 over Fates and i feel like i made the pretty alright choice, have fun

>>46233446
Are you alive?

Okay, so demigod encyclopedia time. Sorry for the delay, life has been interesting. The Darkness would get you empowerment in dark places, moving between shadows, better than perfect nightvision, stealth skills, dimming nearby lights, creating small objects from darkness, storing objects within shadows, turning into a shadow, and summoning up Darklings mostly. Basically Nyx with creation in place of some of the sheltering night and darkness everywhere stuff.

Velka I'm unsure on how to render due to minimal lore being available. Leaning a fun combination of bonuses against those who break laws, absolving criminals, and being empowered by others breaking laws, communicating with crows, along with a bit of occult stuff, and retribution. My apologies on the vagueness, any time I try to write out exact mechanics for them it comes out weird and poorly thought out.

Finally Oblivion would be an odd one. He'd be largely focused on the ability to wear away at reality through his mere presence, diminishing everything slightly. This can be sped up for combat with a touch and you grow stronger the less stuff there is nearby you (so if you're in space you're ridiculously superhuman). Also you can reform objects you have destroyed with your abilities, somewhat influenced by their non-existence but still functional, and move between places where the fabric of reality is frayed. Finally you may temporarily turn your powers in on yourself to not exist for awhile, automatically returning after a time you set when activating the power (more than a short while is inadvisable though, it drains your power to do this, and if you don't have enough then you're kinda screwed).

As always if there are any complaints or things I'm missing feel free to point them out. I'm well aware that small amounts of time wikidelving doesn't get you all the intricacies.

>>46234713
Can you choose SMT!Lucifer as a parent and if so what would he give you?

YJ Anon, I'm curious, in Fallout 4, what's the lifespan of a Courser who takes Cyborg? And any rulings on how superhuman they'd be at tgat are and how little sustenance/rest they'd need compared a normal human?

Are there any perks that let you turn off the plot armor of others?

>>46234791
Devil Style, from Medaka Box. It turns off yours too, though.

>>46234791
Existing as the jumper.

>>46234713
Is that Lovecraft Darkness or Top Cow?

>>46233862
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I did become buds with him in Jojo and Indiana Jones though.

>>46234791
For Fun And Glory - Glory, from Super Smash Bros. As a bonus, it also nullifies fate/luck/probability manipulation.

>>46234713
>>46234850
And which Oblivion?

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>>46234364
They don't look like Hitler to me...
Not even Eva Hitler.

>>46234713
Hey Merchant, would Galactus be allowed as an import option?

>>46234713
>The darkness is valid
So I assume this means you've finally given up all pretence at following the Pantheon rule then?

>>46234765
Would require some research since I'm not especially familiar with SMT. Also rather leery of allowing anything approaching Christianity in because that strikes a bit close to home for some people. Also SMT borrows from so many other mythologies it would be a headache to resolve how that corresponds to the other pantheons as well.
>>46234850
Top Cow.
>>46234874
Marvel, one of the higher end beings that's basically a manifestation of entropy and things that never were. Sometimes an aspect of Death, sometimes a being in his own right from what I got off the wiki.

>>46233862
I haven't yet, but I will roflstomp him MCU.

And save Tesla.

>>46234944
Eh, I get that. For your information, SMT!Lucifer is the creator and master of Chaos, as well as the Lord of Hell. So whether that's cool or not is up to you. Thanks for answering.

>>46234942
The darkness is a cosmic creation force along with angelus and witchblade anon what are you spouting?

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Is there any way to legitimately become a legendary pokemon? Because I think it'd be entertaining to take the mystery dungeon jump as a celebi or hoopa and talk about alternate timelines/worlds and be taken seriously.

>>46235031
Animorphs, to an extent. Maybe Geneforge or something similar. Maybe D&D psionic's True Mind Switch or something similar.

>>46235031
Presumably Animorphs might help, especially if you have an unused alt form that you don't care about.

>>46235031
Animorphs and Pokemon Conquest?

>>46234791
Reality Check, Cho Aniki

>>46235031
I mean, if it works like I think it does you might be able to become a minor legendary by going to Percy Jackson, importing the PokePantheon, then taking the Monster origin/capstone.

Though I can't look at the jump right now so I may be wrong.

>>46235031
Oh, get one as a companion, get it Heredity from Discworld, and have it adopt you in a jump where you're young enough (Mushoku Tensei is perfect for this, they can get you right from birth. Maybe the same if you start young enough as young enough Wyrmling in Forgotten Realms).

>>46235077
Speaking of, what jumps specifically give you a new human alt-form? I've been running that they don't but I want one to sacrifice to Animorphs to change it to a new form.

>>46235186
Does that work backwards, though?

>>46235198
There's a Human Form perk in Rosario Vampire.

>>46235198
I assume any of the human-oriented ones where you choose something other than drop-in.

>>46234942
It's got at least two more beings on its level, and from what I could gather from other oblique references on wikis there were quite a few other similarly weird sapient powers embodying fundamental forces going around.
>>46234942
I guess. Depends on which interpretation you're going with, notably the wiki for Oblivion mentioned Galactus is occasionally talked about on the same level as Oblivion's group (Eternity, Infinity, Death, and Oblivion), so he probably gets in from that. Lots of big blasty powers, with the issue that they're fueled by draining the life of swathes of land, as well as the ability to invest power into a being to serve as your herald, generally being ridiculously strong and hard to kill, and easy access to most divine realms. (Due to necessary scale adjustments Galactus would mostly be feeding on various divine realms taking the place of planets, with the desertification of the Fertile Crescent being blamed on one of the few times he ate part of the mortal world)

Will probably define it a bit more come morning. I'm tired and don't feel like another wiki delve before bed.

Is there a perk that lets me use my powers at any range?

>>46235534
>any range
>any

If you mean snipe people from half a universe away, none that I know of

>>46235606

No I mean like signals like remote controlling a person with magic

any word on the progress of the ikkitousen jump?

>>46234778
Very, very long; Kellogg has lived at least a hundred years, and Synths already have a longer lifespan than normal humans. Definitely somewhere in the 150~200 year range, possibly even more depending on how you utilize/upgrade your cyborg body. As for how superhuman they are; maybe enough to lift a little under a ton. They'd still need to eat and drink, even a little bit, but they'd probably be fully rested with as little as three hours of sleep.

>>46235534
The Master of Magic jump lets you attune a place of power and cast magic globally, but it sounds like you want something farther than that.

>>46235636
Thanks.

>>46235606
Power ring allows you to basically snipe vast distances. During the Sinestro Corps War, they had a sniper who was sniping across the universe. He was in Space Sector 3, and was killing GLs near Oa. Then John got into a sniper battle with him. Seeing how space is pretty big, and even the distance between Oa which lies in "center of the universe" to anywhere else is pretty massive distance.

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>>46235867
Forgot picture. This is him taking shot at the Anti-Monitor.

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Alright Anons! After nearly six straight hours(with occasional breaks to do other things and post here) I have completed the Devil Survivor 2 jump! Aside from any typos and maybe notes, this is now jumpable! Please enjoy.
And I swear to Chrystal Dragon Jesus if this doesn't post, I will bring about the Conception and become the embodiment of the Reason of Forgetfulness and Stupidity.

>>46236334
Awesome. Time to be Elder Thing Prometheus.

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If HeavensAnon is around, a few questions about how technology/magitech from other worlds might interact with Heaven's Lost Property technology. Some of these probably don't have any conclusive answer, so even guesses would be appreciated:

1. The Pandora System is described as a program. The Defragmentation Device from Blame! specialises in repairing and improving both software and hardware. Is it thus possible to use its' technology to improve the Prototype Pandora System? As an aside for Devil Survivor-in an earlier combo we were wondering if it would buff summoned beings overall, or just their purely physical traits-it's probably the latter, right?

2. How would it interact with nanotechnology from Iji, GUNNM and Bubblegum Crisis that also has its' own self-improvement protocals? Would the improvements integrate with each other, or for the purposes of the post-Spark thing would they be unable to buff the System beyond a certain point-or perhaps unlock unique processes rather than those sealed?

3. The Gravity Furnace from Blame! contains the potential for functionally endless gravitational energy-which one of the factions has managed to harness for all sorts of tricks like private spatial locks. The Safeguard are a kind of biomechanical energy being produced which can harness built-in forms of gravity furnace technology. If you used something like HYDRA Blueprints to integrate a structural conversion tower (the thing that makes Safeguards) into an Angelroid production how much more efficient would you make them overall?

4. Would a steady supply of endless energy and resources help the Pandora System's ability to self-modify? e.g. an Aeon Paragon inscribed with Correspondence sigils for limitless energy to enhance its' resource production.

5. Does the Pandora System only interact with "hardware" technology or can it also interface with energy constructs? Like MMZ's Cyber Elves, for example.

>>46236417
Isn't there an AGE system in Gundam that does the same thing? I have no idea why he nerfed this Pandora System.

>>46236443
No. The AGE System is fairly limited. It's a useful tool, but it's not capable of infinite technological evolution.

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>>46236334
How bad is it that the first thing i thought of upon reading what you said i thought of this mess rather than Nocturne. I feel like I've sinned by just knowing this game

>>46236484
If it's bad I'm in the same boat, because I had the same thought.

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>>46236380
Glad you like it, Anon! Now there will be no vortex world! At least until I make the Nocturne jump.
>>46236484
>>46236499
Pic related, Anons. Pic related.

>>46236334
That Errai Rising drawback...I'm tempted. Short-circuiting the Great Will before he gets properly started is a fun idea. If I do it, though, I'll have to hold off on taking the Devil Survivor 2 jump until the SMT jump is finished. I'll need the practice in killing God if I'm going to tackle that.

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>>46236417
6. If one were to use Cyberdidact or Harder, Better, Faster, STronger to awaken the machine spirit of the Pandora System, would it effectively grant sapience/communicate with the Angelroid it's installed in or give the program itself a will of its' own?

7. Given a form of technology which can interact with matter and energy on an atomic level could the Prototype Pandora System potentially effect molecular-level alterations given sufficient time for integration of something like Song Science, or would you say this is something sealed for post-Spark?

8. Lastly, is there any chance if one were to integrate supernatural power sources such as the Force or psychic powers-or contain spirits of nature into hardware affected by the Pandora System via something like The Arcane Craft-that they could interfere with the modifications, either positively or negatively?

>>46236443
From what I heard it was mainly used to make single-use gadgets in the series. I'm very much not familiar with Gundam though, though I think the closest thing to the Pandora System would be the Devil Gundam cells-and they're apparently far less versatile/have less potential for development than the post-Spark Pandora System

>>46236528
Sounds like a good idea, Anon, though I will warn you Errai/YHVH will be stronger than normal due to hijacking Canopus' power.

>>46236334
No limit on drawbacks?

>>46236555
I figured, that's why I'm considering just killing YHVH normally as a run-up to the main event. I'll also have to bring my A game from a lot of other jumps. Devil Survivor 1 may help, I went Bel in that.

>>46236533
But more importantly, have you discovered why kids love Cinnamon Toast Crunch in full yet?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQjm5ApVTv8

>>46234280
Why not just let the plot-armored supers deal with the cosmic shit while you keep having fun at street level? It's a big planet, and the street level villains aren't going to be idle while all the heroes are busy off fighting darkseid or whoever. "Yeah, maybe Superman fought off an alien invasion, but he wasn't here when the Riddler stole my car! Jumper was!"

>>46236612
>Street level
>Fun
There's nothing fun about punching a thug in the dick for the 10,000th time, low ambition anon.

>>46236533
>From what I heard it was mainly used to make single-use gadgets in the series
The Age system can create an entire line of gundams for production, each new gundam the protagonists use is generated by the Age System with some pretty good enhancements. The limits to the system are that to produce a new design it needs new combat data or new information on technology. However Gundam AGE has three protagonists, with the second being the son of the first, and the third being the second's son, and takes place over quite a period of time. The AGE system itself was really useful but it wasn't really any faster than say the natural technological development in Universal Century.

>>46236612
Hold up, I'm trying to figure out why the Riddler would steal some random guy's car. Is that the riddle? "Why would the Riddler steal some random guy's car?". Man, Edward Nigma's standards sure have fallen.

>>46236443
Internal balance? Maybe?

From what I understand after briefly skimming over the series, an un-nerfed Pandora System would basically be worth more points than what's available.

>>46236612
>Whether hero or villain, in the next ten years expect at least one world shattering event to take place and one way or another, no matter how hard you try, you’ll find yourself involved.

>>46236593
Whoops, look's like I'll have to correct that. Be right back!
>>46236596
Bel will DEFINITELY help. At full power, it puts you on par with regular YHVH(His yellow head form, not the Great Will itself), though you'll still need a crap ton of power to keep up with a YHVH with Canopus' power, especially since he'll be able to call on some of his other avatars as well. Not a lot, but a few. I'd definitely recommend taking it as a late-game jumper.

>>46236665
>Correct
No drawback limit is superior.

>>46236650
Just give a giga-drawback or something.

>>46236702
>giga-drawback
>implying anyone would pay attention to it
>implying it wouldn't be wanked away

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>>46236683
Eh, you can get a maximum of 600/800cp, which should be sufficient. Anymore would be suicidal.

>>46236746
Yeah, you're gonna get shat on for putting in a limit.

Calling it now.

>>46236665
Oh hey, speaking of Bel: Are the demons you summon from your court sapient, or are they more like mindless copies? The notes say that they're not companions, but that could be interpreted as them just not being able to retain changes you make to them.

>>46236746
If I want to commit drawback suicide I think that's my right.

>>46236729
So what? Then you get to shitpost at them about how they died. I bet that'd be fun for you.

>>46236769
Hey, you can still take the drawbacks, you just won't get CP for them. Go ahead, commit suicide.

>>46236533
The answer to most of these is honestly 'I don't know'. The technology in Heaven's Lost Property is not expanded on or defined well, and if I could answer how each perk is affected by a different jump's perks, we'd be here making an entire wiki of cross-jump perks and details therein.

The guideline and Pre-Spark caps exist to make it both usable and reasonable without a Jumpchain turning into 'Angel Loli Borg 3.0'. It's safe to assume such is Jump-chan's doing, and they likely wouldn't be happy with trying to bypass it.

As for things that interact with it without actually breaking this hard cap or the diminishing returns factor: Flip a coin.

>>46236769
Then just take the drawbacks and don't get the CP for it. Go ahead, show us how you can do it.

>>46236797
>>46236817
Then what's the point? No reward no risk.

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>>46236746
I should have kept my mouth shut.
But it was going to happen anyway once people posted builds with 1000cp+ drawbacks.

>>46236828
The point is to commit suicide. I thought that's what you wanted.

>>46236816
Hey you, how the fuck are we supposed to survive in this setting if anyone with any power is going to instantly kick our ass no matter what we buy?

>>46236756
Why? Every other Jump has a limit?
>>46236766
They're definitely sapient, it's just as a Bel they CAN'T disobey you unless a higher power (Lucifer, for example) overrules you. Even then, they're still YOUR demons. they just can't help.
>>46236769
Eh, it's just how the system works. You can still do it if you want, you just won't gain cp for it. B.B.B. gets you more demons and companions, if that's any consolation.
>>46236835
>1000cp
...Would that be better?

>>46236843
>Every other Jump has a limit?
That's actually not true.

>>46236843
Stick to your guns. If you decided 600 was what you wanted, put that in. Any variation is simply personal taste.

The Lantern Ring from the DC jump says you can't get past the level of Kilowog, but I'm mostly familiar with the Lanterns from the JLU cartoon, and I barely remember most of that. What can Kilowog do in the comics?

>>46236816
>'Angel Loli Borg 3.0'.
How is it any worse than 'magiteck loli scientist'? That's one of our jumpers already. At least it has a more solid theme than most.

>>46236868
If there are ones without them, I haven't seen them.
>>46236869
Yeah, you're probably right. The limit as it is is still pretty high.

>>46236843
>They're definitely sapient, it's just as a Bel they CAN'T disobey you unless a higher power (Lucifer, for example) overrules you. Even then, they're still YOUR demons. they just can't help.
Okay, so the "just can't retain the changes" thing, then. That's fine. Keeps me from doing one thing I had planned with them, but has other advantages.

>>46236876
Punch. All he's capable of is being a retard and punching shit.

>>46236878
Apologies for being vague. I mean 'getting Pandora and then eating and copying all technology from all worlds'. You'd become a living singularity VERY quickly if it was uncapped and unnerfed. Hence why it's a post-Spark feature.

>>46236828
Well then what you should have said was "If I want to commit suicide, I want to get all the points for it too"

>>46236839
Have you even read the thread? It's only the top 1% that you might have a problem with.

>>46236843
Just stick to what you're comfy with. If you only want to have a 600 limit, don't feel forced.

>>46236903
I can do that with one jump already.

Kancolle.

Or if you hate non-canon? Bubblegum Crisis has the same. Fairly Tail too.

And again, tell me, how am I supposed to survive her except by hiding?

>>46236906
>the top 1%
The main characters and villains, meaning the only people that matter. Nobody gives a fuck about your nameless peon.

>>46236843
1000cp+ was just an arbitrary example. I'm not putting forward anything and further haggling of the drawback cap would be disrespectful.
Creator says it 600/800, so that's what it is.

>>46236889
>Haven't seen them
FF6/8 are examples.

>pretty high.
How? 600 is the default minimum.

>>46236927
You're going to have to be a little more specific. Who are you referring to?

>>46236943
>Default
So it should be perfectly fine as is then right?

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>>46236927
>Nobody gives a fuck about your nameless peon.
So are we in the "jumps are worthless unless we can dickslap mc-kun" arguments again?

>>46236958
>Who are you referring to?
Here. As in, this setting. You've already said that the only important people would kick your ass completely because you've nerfed any ability to grow in this jump. So how the fuck are you supposed to survive?

>>46236899
Indeed. Oh, and to clarify, I meant higher powers they would listen too: YHVH is technically a higher power, but non-Law demons won't obey him
>>46236906
Yeah, that's probably for the best.
>>46236932
This is fine by me.
>>46236943
Huh. Haven't seen that. Also, 600cp/800cp allows you to pay for the most expensive perk in-jump. Besides, 600 as you said is the default, so why fix what isn't broken?

>>46236978
>Guys I spend 10 years fighting a level 1 kobold! Look at my fun adventure!

>>46236927
Does Machina Soul even do that? The only known user jobbed pretty hard...

>>46236876
Powerful blasts that can hurt Parallax, complex medical devices, and he's the guy who trains people in how to use their rings. He's one of the upper-tier lanterns.

>>46236876
Pretty impressive stuff. Kilowog is one of the more technically-skilled Lanterns. He's got a knack for using his ring to assemble machinery out of Lantern constructs, letting him do much more versatile feats than most of the Corps are capable of. He doesn't have the incredible raw power of Hal Jordan or Kyle Rayner, but he's got great fine control.

>>46236902
That's just his fighting style. He prefers to rely on his own natural strength as a Bolovaxian when it comes to offense, that lets him focus all his ring's energy on defense and mobility.

>>46236663
>one way or another
Doesn't necessarily mean right in the thick of it, though. Darkseid invades Earth? You might just end up fighting some parademons that survived the spiders in Australia, or maybe you're on monitor duty up in the Watchtower at the time and have to coordinate the league's response (to the parademon invasion, not the spiders, nobody can handle those), let them know where all the Boom Tubes are or whatever. Doesn't mean you'll have to face Darkseid personally (unless your luck _really_ sucks).

>>46237005
Yes, it's just that in shounen people use thinking powers really stupidly. All that matters is how hard you bunch, anything that requires the characters or mangaka to be clever falls flat.

>>46235867
... Lantern rings can snipe across the universe?Given he is using a scope to see that far does that mean they can see what is happening half-way across the universe in real time?

Is the one you can get from DC jump able to do that?

>>46236978
Basically, yes.

This guy's never happy. Speaking of...

>>46236876
This guy here? >>46236902 Flagrantly full of shit. Fucker is one of the most brilliant of his species. And the strength of his will's fucking oustanding - when his planet was destroyed? Quick thinking and force of his will helped him save all sixteen billion souls on board in his ring until he could get them to another planet.

>>46237005
Doesn't she only lose because she fights opponents that are even MORE powerful?

>>46236979
You know, several anons already answered your question and even a cursory glance into this series would answer it. But you seem a little slow, so I'll explain in detail.

The main antagonist in this series is Minos, who mostly sits in his orbital satellite heaven dicking around with the protagonists. He's not exactly proactive, though, and is content with sitting on his ass for most of the series and letting Angelroids do the work for him.

The other antagonist, Chaos, has her own jumper-specific drawback that is optional to take. In most other cases, you'd probably never encounter her unless you directly threatened Synapse (kicked the door down guns glazing, for instance) or stuck close to the plot.

You also seemed concerned about reality-warpers. Angelroids are great physical threats, but can't actually DO anything like that. There's only one reality-warping item in Lost Property and the Jumper gets a free immunity to it. The easiest way to survive in this world is simply not take Synapse antagonizing drawbacks.

If that doesn't work? Befriend the main cast. They'll fix things on their own unless you go out of your way to prevent it. It turns this into a slice of life jump, but this isn't that high-intensity a setting unless you want it to be, anyways.

Easy enough to understand?

>>46237051
Course, then Sinestro blew up that planet.

>>46237038
Yes. It uses Kilowog as a reference point, and Kilowog is one of the best Lanterns when it comes to exotic ring constructs. So you could probably create one of the super-luminal sniper cannons used in that fight.

While we're talking about Green Lantern Rings, can you power one with Spiral Energy? Or at least modify one to be powered by it?

>>46237038
Probably. Kilowag is like right under the power level of the human GLs. Most the time he seems to be as powerful as John Stewart. John is pretty low key and makes his constructs super durable by making sure they actually could function. Like he makes sure there's nuts and bolts and moving pieces.

Kilowog's is only one known to actually make a sound. Also his blasts are pretty powerful.

>>46237083
They didn't answer. They said "You should be happy hiding!"

So you're telling me that in this setting you're not supposed to do anything except sit around and twiddle your fucking thumbs because you've set it up so otherwise you will fucking die. How is that fun?

And your only OTHER solution is to do nothing and be a helpless worthless damsel and let other people protect you. How fucking pathetic is that? How the fuck is being useless fun?

>>46237100
No, Rings are powered by a very specific emotion, Spiral Energy is not Willpower, though they do have a connection the are not the same thing.

You likely COULD modify one, but it would be difficult, and likely be shit due to how Lantern Rings work in the first place.

>>46237134
There's more to a setting than trying to kill the top dogs, anon.

>>46237032
...I was gonna argue that that's against the spirit of it, with how much comic books (and /jc/ in general, no matter how much people try to be jesus 2.0 or techno gods) focus on fighting.

But you know what? That's actually fucking great. That line of thinking would let me make use of a lot of skillsets and powers that just go out the wayside due to me troubleshooting in person, or diplomancing stuff as best as I can in other settings.

>>46237150
If I wanted to sit on my ass and eat toast I'd go to it right now. I don't jump just to be a normal person and do nothing important.

>>46237100
Definitely. Lantern Rings can charge up off of alternate power sources (at least, they used to be able to, it might have been retconned away), though it can have weird effects if the source is too different from the Green Power Battery and can backfire on the user. But "green light of willpower" is pretty much what Spiral Energy is, so I imagine it could deal with the difference more easily than it could others.

>>46237005
I don't know about the anime, but I'm pretty sure that model chick was in Machina Soul form for like 2 panels in the manga, and was one-shotted by Mirajane before she actually did anything.

>>46237134
Not those Anons, but I'm fairly certain the Angel perk tree would make you powerful enough to survive a lot of the shit in setting, considering the most powerful ones get hit by nuclear equivalent and shrug them off.

>>46237099
>>46237129
Looks like I will be buying one of them after all.

I'd considered sneaking into one of the human lanterns homes in stopped time while they were asleep and stealing it, and just not letting it out of the Warehouse till post jump, but I think buying it is worth it now.

Also means I don't have to figure out how to power it when it's disconnected from the battery.

>>46237168
And it's just fascinating how the only way you can think to be important is to personally kill all the bad guys. Have some creativity, anon.

>>46237186
Lantern Rings are user-locked, stealing one just means you have a pretty bauble. You can override the locks, but it takes another Lantern Ring to do.

>>46237140
>and likely be shit due to how Lantern Rings work in the first place
How's that?

>>46237188
There is no fun in sucking up to other people to make them do the actual work. If you don't accomplish anything on your own it's meaningless.

>>46237184
You can't fight anyone meaningful. Nobody with a name. None of the major events. Nothing that ACTUALLY matters. Who gives a fuck if you can kill a nameless peon or human? Does that matter? No. Does that affect change? No. Is that worthy? Something actually fun or interesting to do? Hell no.

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>>46236746
Quick question: If you don't take the "A whole new world" but take Miyako as a companion, does she just...kinda bump into you one day since you're out of her timeline? If you do, does that change or not?

Drawbacks: Bonus Boss Bananza, Bel Bel Bel, what have we here? A whole new world (1600)

Rolled Tokyo

Drop-In, Age 18

Don't Be Ridiculous! (Free)
Bunny Ears Lawyer (1500)
Shining One (1300)
Record Breaker (1000)
Joe Joe's Bizarre Adventure (800)
Hee-Ho! (700)
Stealth Hi-Bye! (600)
Miyako Hotsuin/Cor Caroli (0)
Blue Phone (Free)

Wait. Wait, this can't be right. We saved this world. We brought the light of order to it, laid the foundations for man, angel and demon to coexist in harmony. Things were going just fine.

This can mean only one thing: That autistic, glorified janitor is guilty of evolutionary HERESY. HERESY against the Great Will. HERESY against all right-thinking sophonts who were just starting to get along again. HERESY against US.

There is absolutely a god. And at this rate He and We are both undergoing a severe mercy deficet. It's up to us to convince JP and Ronaldo's faction of the need to team up against this xeno heretic.

(Cont'd)

>>46237134
>>46237168

...why can't you just. You know.

Snipe them from afar? Set traps? Manipulate them into jumping the MCs during an inconvenient moment, or manipulate others with the capability to do so into fighting them? Grab some macguffin within the setting, booby trap it and trick them into screwing themselves over with it?

If Worm's taught me anything it's that there are plenty of ways to deal with higher powerlevels than attacking head on like some sort of shounen protagonist.

>>46236816
That's fair enough. Thanks for answering anyway!

>>46237219
You took the murdertale jump didn't you.

>>46237240
hell yes

>>46237215
Rings are powered by Entities that are living representations of that Element.
Without a living representation of Spiral Energy your ring won't be that great. You're better off just trying to build something from scratch, rather than using Lantern Tech as a base.

>>46237234
>Snipe them from afar? Set traps?
They're too powerful.
>Manipulate them into jumping the MCs during an inconvenient moment, or manipulate others with the capability to do so into fighting them?
Who the fuck cares if THEY do it? you're not doing anything on your own, you're sucking up to other people to do the work.
>Grab some macguffin within the setting, booby trap it and trick them into screwing themselves over with it?
You can't. Everything in this setting has been made so you can't use it.


>>46237240
I refuse to kill my friends.

>>46237209
They are locked but that probably wouldn't stop a jumper from jailbreaking it.

>>46237219
...I meant the Angel perk tree from Evangelion, Anon. You know, the apocalyptic eldritch abominations? I hardly consider that low tier.
>>46237234
I...Guess so? Or you get the concept version of her, who's just Yamato's twin sister.

Is there anything that lets you fuse completely different tech together? I kind of want to smash a GL ring together with an MCU Mjolnir and an Iron Man suit.

>>46237277
>Another jump
Not relevant. We're talking about if we go to THIS setting. I don't want to hear about your 400 jump Yahweh killer build.

Taking that perk line is suicidal anyway.

>>46237269
>I refuse to kill my friends.
Didn't you just go off on a rant on how you think it's horrible to rely on anyone? Why do you have friends then?

>>46237305
I don't rely on them to do any of the actual work.

>Why do you enjoy hanging out with people if you don't make them kill your enemies?
Seriously?

>>46237295
Well then I don't know what to tell you, Anon. There's not much I can do to advise/help you on this.

>>46237289
Yes. It's in the MCU jump, actually, so pick it up while you're grabbing Mjolnir (better be worthy, though) and the Iron Man suit. It's called the HYDRA Blueprints, gives you the instructions on how to do that.

>>46237289
Hydra Blueprints from MCU jump.

>>46237256
Those aren't actually necessary to power the rings aren't they? I thought they were just personifications of the emotional spectrum. Didn't they recently sacrifice themselves to refill an emotional reservoir or something?

>>46237327
>>46237325
Thanks. I actually plan on going Asgardian+Retro Engineer and figuring out how to make my own Mjolnir. Which I assume will take a while, but should be doable.

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>>46237234
We're not as familiar with this as Devil Survivors but-we have to question whether Alcor is /the/ best candidate for succession. At the very least we should have Miyako and Amane put their heads together, do some interviews and screen other candidates from among the divine. Or maybe ask YHVH to delegate a subdivided aspect as a candidate; humans can become potential Administrator candidates right? Perhaps others may qualify too. Either way, apparently to hack into the multiversal servers is a Bad Idea so we shall focus on shoring up defences interdimensional & otherwise against the invaders first, and possibly petitioning our father in heaven to deploy the Archangels for fusion if there's something we can target far away enough to not risk the planet as collateral damage.

Hopefully by the Triangulum arc between our authority over demonkind and angelic reinforcements we'll have enough collective firepower to stall Arcturus in order to file a metaphysical complaint to the effect that it's the Triangulum and Polaris who are the errors here, not us.

>>46237269
>They're too powerful

This honestly sounds like an assumption on your part rather than based on any evidence from the jump. They're not, well, SMT endbosses by the sound of things.

>Who the fuck cares
>sucking up

An argument denying creative problem solving in favor of personal preference isn't a very strong one, but that's just my opinion.

>Everything in this setting

YOU can't. I don't see why you can't sabotage it and trick others into misusing it.

>>46237305
That said having a bunch of people I can hang out and actually get along with well is part of the appeal for me too[/spoiler[

>>46237327
>>46237325
Is that the only one? I feel like there was something else that could do that, too.

>>46237331
I have no fucking idea. Last I heard they lived in the "Primary Lantern Battieres" and powered them.


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Next Secundo Build, the IRC(the ones doing the randomized jump order) hate Secundo it seems.

Ravenloft- Well, it's fitting at least. But god is this gonna suck
0/1300
Rolled for 18
Drop-in
Rolled for Barovia
Discount Iron Will
Discount Magic Resistance
Monstrous(Water Elemental with a human form)
Freebies
Skeleton Key

Holy+200-Wait, since when do I have Holy Powers? Is this just so more things hate me?
Phobic+100-Clowns, WhyTheFuckNot. I'm already afraid of them

>>46237436
Maybe Duct Tape Fusion from Invader Zim could do it too?

>>46237432
>This honestly sounds like an assumption on your part
Jumpmaker said.
>An argument denying creative problem solving
An argument denying the idea of sitting on your fat cosmic ass and telling other people to do work.
>YOU can't
Meaning that you're powerless here.

>>46237461
The Jumpmaker said that Pandora Protocol wouldn't. He didn't say anything about other perks. Can't you just, you know, buy other perks?

>>46237432
To be honest, the best candidate for succession is no one. That thing seems to have a corrupting effect on everyone who uses it, seeing as Polaris and her predecessors and successor are all dicks. Canopus can probably pacified if you convince it you don't want to corrupt the Akashic Record.

>>46237481
He said that with the perks in this jump all the relevant people will destroy you.

>>46237501
If you're a dipshit who takes drawbacks they can't handle or picks fights with BBEG's with a higher power level, sure. Otherwise, nope.

>>46237524
You mean if you're someone who actually wants to do something in this jump other than hide and be irrelevant.

>>46237501
Did he? I could have sworn he was just talking about Pandora Prototype. I'm looking through the thread and I'm not seeing anything about other perks. Maybe I'm just missing it. Can you point me to the post? Not trying to be confrontational, genuinely wondering if I'm not seeing something here.

>>46237535
The show is comedy, man, not everything is about wanton destruction.

>>46237535
To be honest, Anon DOES have a point in that most other Jumps allow you to fight the BBEG with enough time, training, and practice, even if he's missing the point about the series.

>>46237546
He was asked if, because of the nerf, you would not be able to stand up to people in this jump. He said yes. He has not said otherwise since.

>>46237550
Again, you expect people to jump this to do fucking nothing at all?

>>46237535
>hide and be irrelevant

This is tangential, but, uh.

You seem to be under the assumption that everyone here will automatically be out for a fight. Unless we're dealing with a tournament series or a Villain Protagonist here, I doubt you'll be shot on sight.

>>46237535
You have no backup in this argument. Will you please just shut up?

>>46237574
No, I'm telling you that here that the only way to do anything worthy of note is to actually get involved. Which will kill you.

>>46237567
>He was asked if, because of the nerf, you would not be able to stand up to people in this jump. He said yes. He has not said otherwise since.
He said the nerf to Pandora Prototype wouldn't let you do that. I don't anything about other things. Is it possible this entire argument has been based on a miscommunication, with both of you thinking the other was referring to something else?

>>46237597
Then you are extremely thick-headed and can't understand or follow conversations. I feel sad for you, but I cannot help you.

>>46237567
If "live a life of exciting new sights, sounds, smells, and tastes, possibly with a brand new body" counts as "nothing at all," then yes.

You could open a business, or run a sweepstakes, or even go on a mass gambling spree!

All the stuff that normal humans COULD do but you didn't GET to do back on Earth. It's the little things, ya know?

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>>46237436
It's the most broad one, as far as I remember. Although I think Iji nanites apparently do something similar, though more in the line of hacking other weapons than outright combining tech?

The latest STALKER jump has something for harnessing artifacts to your technology, and SCP has supernatural containment procedures and reverse engineering of anomalies perks.

There's possibly also the Micro-Brain Repair Units from Swat Kats-although they're an item, and it's less "fuse technological systems" than "grab nearby technology and make it into a weird robot thing which may or may not go nuts"

>>46237461
>Jumpmaker said

I don't see anything about how they're literally invincible to all forms of harm in >>46237083, just like how Endbringers and Chaos Gods aren't technically untouchable but are pretty damn formidable.

>sitting on your fat cosmic ass

You underestimate the effort needed to pull off a good scheme.

>powerless

Did...did you just ignore the rest of that sentence? You honestly seem kind of fixated on doing absolutely everything yourself.

>>46237491
Noted. However, it's come to our attention destroying the damn record will also smash the multiverse or the reincarnation system or something. And that there's a LOT of successor entities out there to replace the killed ones.

Is it possible to convince Canopus to just shut down the throne for good and go on autopilot or something?

>>46237618
>Exciting
>I went to school for the 30,000th time!
>I ate toast!
>Oh no it's a tree!
Real fucking exciting life you live.

>Open a business
How the fuck is that exciting? You can literally go do that right the fuck now, unless you live in fucking Myanmar or some shit.

>It's the little things, ya know?
No.

>>46237620
>I don't see anything about how they're literally invincible to all forms of harm
They're unbeatable with the jump.

>>46237616
Alright, I've tried being reasonable, it's clearly not working. Is there a way to block people based on IP and not name? I'm tired of this guy filling the thread with vitriol.

>>46237651
Thankfully, no.

>>46237648
>unbeatable with the jump
Hence the 'chain' part you conveniently forgot.

>>46237648
>How the fuck is that exciting? You can literally go do that right the fuck now, unless you live in fucking Myanmar or some shit.
Spoken like someone who's never been a small business owner. It's quite fulfilling. You should try it. They say that everyone's got at least one good idea for a business in them. What's yours, anon?

>>46237684
You can wank beating anything with your god-killer build, yes. That's not fun either, anon.

>>46237686
Yeah, no.

>>46237651
As far as I know, there isn't, I'm afraid. Since you've made yourself as clear as you can, there's no shame in just not responding to him if he's obsessed with powerlevels beyond common sense and imagination.

>>46237648
>>46237706

When you're at the point when your own preferences and assumptions are your only argument it's generally a sign you should realise you're not going to persuade anyone.

The problem you keep running into and others keep pointing out is while they may be unbeatable with PERK PURCHASES alone there's plenty of things you can do to arrange their doom in the jump with those perks as assistance-but for some reason you have an axiometric obsession of personal responsibility that makes you discount things like manipulation and subtlety as "weak", when it's generally held as the whole point of jumpchain that you shouldn't have to rush headlong into every fight.

If you can't accept this than there's not really a point in continuing this exchange further.

>>46237706
Oh come on, it'll be fun. Let's open a business together, anon. What skills do you have that we could market?

>>46237743
>there's plenty of things you can do to arrange their doom in the jump
All of which involve you not actually doing anything.

>>46237760
>All of which involve you doing things other than brute forcing your way through problems

Look, other people aren't responsible for catering to your personal playstyle. It's already been pointed out they're not literally gonna gun for you, personally, and there's ways around them.

>>46237796
Only being able to accomplish things by sucking up to someone is not having personal agency or accomplishment. It's being a doormat with a smile.

>>46237814
>people aren't responsible for catering to your personal playstyle

>>46237796
Don't bother, anon. People have tried to talk to him, he's never going to be satisfied unless he can Saitama his way through every problem ever.

>>46237826
Nor should they over-favor or punish one playstyle over others.

>>46237814
>personal agency or accomplishment

Okay, so you're admitting you're only arguing out of personal bias at this point. I guess I should thank you for letting us all know you're not worth listening to.

<Obligatory question about the JoJo Supplement both to beat the other guy to it and to try and interrupt the bitching going on.>

>>46237449
They're not the source of the emotion energy, they're the first beings that experienced that emotion. They're just really powerful energy beings now. The rings function without them. As seen when Krona enslaved them all and then when most them gave their lives up to patch up the source wall.

>>46237847
<Fond Remembrance of This Joke>

>>46237814
Okay, idea for our business: Landfill mining. There are plenty of old landfills full of waste that we couldn't recycle at the time but can now. Lots of heavy metals. We clean up the local water table and make a profit off of recycled cadmium. What do you say?

>>46237842
You think it's an accomplishment to ask your friend to kill something? You think you 'won'?

>>46237157
Way I went with it was "what if my Jumper got his own comic book line in the DC setting? what sort of (mis)adventures would the writers throw at my Jumper? Are they going to be in the style of Superman? The Question? Booster Gold? And when the big crossover event happens, who is my Jumper going to run into / be forced to team up with to survive / etc?"

>>46237835
That's hilariously hypocritical coming from you since you've been trying to push your personal playstyle while denying everyone else's as invalid badwrongfun.

>>46237847
Ironic shitposting is still shitposting, but you know what-sure, change of topic sounds just dandy right now.

When have you built, Jumpers? What's the creative, constructive project you're most proud of above all others in your time?

>>46237706
>I want to be able to dick-slap the BBEGs with only the perks in the jump!
>I don't want a god-killer build!

Make up your fucking mind, anon. Your acting all schizo.

>>46237864
That's… actually a really neat idea. You should run with this. I look forward to seeing your face in the Forbes 500 and shaking Gore's hand.

>>46237875
Making friends with something that CAN do that for you is seen as a sign of high charisma and personability. It means you're persuasive, convincing - able to get your dirty work done without getting your own hands bloody.

It's not what you know, buddy. It's who you know. CONNECTIONS are how we get ahead in life. As in reality, so in fantasy.

>>46237888
>That's hilariously hypocritical
Consider that you've been offering them as the 'solution' to the issues I have with the jump, no. I'm not telling you how to play yourself.

>>46237903
And it means you're a worthless damsel who doesn't even have the decency to actually have value or ability on your own. You just know how to smile and flatter. Literally the most common, lazy, and easy 'skills' that exist.

>>46237875
Okay, or if the landfill thing isn't to your tastes (and I can understand that, it's not really a "small business", I was shooting too far), but still in the same general idea: Lumber yard specializing in reclaimed wood. People love reclaimed lumber for some reason, they really like the look. So we go around in the backwoods buying up old barns for a pittance, strip them of the timbers, then sell them to hipster home decorators at a huge mark up. What do you say?

>>46237032
>fighting some parademons that survived the spiders in Australia
>survived the spiders in Australia
>survived in Australia
Bullshit.

>>46237209
I'd planned to use technopathy on it, but now I'll just buy one.

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>>46237888
>making me choose between my meticulously crafted projects
>mfw
They're all things I'm proud of.

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>>46237847
<Self-Deprecating Comment on One's Lack of Productivity.>