Infinity General: Why do March releases come out in April edition

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First for glorious YJ thighs

Drakios, Teucer and Atalanta are unplayably bad aren't they?

I love the models but nobody ever seems to use them...

>>46071974
I've proxied Atalanta once (in vanilla) and she's just too squishy to justify the investment. With no defensive skills or nwi and only ARM 2 with 1 wound, she just rolls over to everything.

Teucer at least has nwi, so he might be better? Idk

And then there's always the competition to be considered - phoenix just looks so much better, considering link team boni
There is msv to consider, of course - butaren't agema just better for that? They sure are cheaper. And vanilla has other sources of msv anyways

4th for wanting warm and non raining weather to prime my models

>>46072671
>1986+30
>not using airbrush to prime

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>>46071974
Drakios is actually a really good rambo unit. In my first using him, he march up the left flank and killed everything in his path before get killed in the enemy deployment zone. I dont use him often though, because I really like to take Penny or Scylla. So fitting his fat ass in the list get's tricky

Never use the Teuce

You get what you pay for in Atalanta which is a powerful glasscannon. She can be a monster in the active turn, but she's a poor fragile expensive ARO piece. Rumor is she's going to see more play time in HSN3.

>>46072854
>Never use the Teuce
Sorry I meant that as "I've haven't used him yet"

>>46072854
>>46072144
I can see Drakios having uses, 3 HFTs for 37 points is great value.

>>46071974
>>46072854
The trick using Teucer and Atalanta is to focus using them in active turn. Well, I've personally yet to use Teucer successfully, but Atalanta has brought her points back. All in all, they're a bit challenging to use, so most people don't bother to learn. No experience with Drakios.

>>46068717

Well, they're one of the first armies and had rather nice flair to them. Shaolin Monks and ninjas are eye catching. Overall, I think people get tempted by "close combat" stats, and they generally are one of the first armies one starts with because their starters weren't so bad back in say 2010 or so. Their selling point now is the HI which are far from mediocre. In aesthetics they're definitely benefiting from the CAD, and the past six months had near back to back releases. Even their old HI still stand out in looks. In gameplay, as others said, there are few gaps in their roles they're able to field, and they have one of the most, if not the most, popular sectorials with JSA which favors aggressive and mobile fighting styles which can tempt quite a few.

>>46073025
Absolutely. The opponent can shoot or dodge, and take 2-3 HFTs depending on if Drakios uses his combi to contest the ARO dice.

>>46073052
Definitely agree with you, Atalanta isn't a stationary/ARO sniper. She needs some practice to use. Again, I haven't tried Teuce, but I will it's a safe assumption that he's the same, but a little more survivable thanks to NWI.

>>46072680
> priming models indoors with a 1 year old in the house
Sounds like bad news all around

>>46073754
Shouldn't be an issue to be honest. Close the door, open a window when you're done, let it ventilate out before you open the door. I see your concern, but as long as you're using acrylics and ventilate the area well, it'll be fine.

>>46073754
Haven't you heard, of the ten of us in here, we're all getting cancer!

So ... why shouldn't you give Symobiomates beer on St. Patrick's day?

>>46074099
Because they aren't Irish therefore have no reason to celebrate it, unlike every other person in existence who seems to have a long lost distant Irish heritage that only gets revealed once a year when they want an excuse to wear a stupid hat and drink Guinness, despite never drinking it?

>>46074131
>#onlyamericanthings

>>46074099
Because they support northern Ireland...

I've always primed my models using an actual brush. Should I start using an airbrush? I mean, it's faster but it's also pretty fucking expensive

>>46074320
I used to do the same, but zenithal airbrushing is just so neat and fast way.

>>46074320
You can, if you have the money. Conversely, if you want the smoothness of an airbrush but don't want to pay up front for an airbrush (and don't mind a little less control), a cheap can of spray paint from your local hardware store is fine for priming solid colors (if you follow good spray etiquette: i.e. passing the spray through the model so that it layers on real thin).

Stupid fluff question, do Aleph soldiers outside of the reconstructions have names and identities? Do they live normal lives when off duty?

Are they all the same in terms of "humanity"/personality?

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So I posted a listaat thread and I'm looking for some advice. I'm trying to build up from the starter and guys in my area are kind of tryhards.

JAGUAR Chain Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, DA CCW. (10)
ALGUACIL (Forward Observer, Deployable Repeater) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (12)
ALGUACIL (Forward Observer, Deployable Repeater) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (12)
ALGUACIL Paramedic (MediKit) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (12)
INTERVENTOR Hacker Lieutenant (Hacking Device Plus) Combi Rifle, 1 FastPanda / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 27)
INTRUDER (X-Visor) MULTI Sniper Rifle / Pistol, CCW. (1.5 | 43)
IGUANA HMG, Heavy Flamethrower / . (2 | 71)
LUNOKHOD Heavy Shotgun, Heavy Flamethrower, CrazyKoalas (2) / Electric Pulse. (26)
SPEKTR (Forward Observer) Combi Rifle, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (32)
MOBILE BRIGADA HMG / Pistol, Knife. (2 | 42)
JAGUAR Light Shotgun, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, E/M CCW. (13)

6 SWC | 300 Points

>>46074353
Contrary to the popular belief, most character in ASS are not recreations, but regular aspects that just assumed the roles. ALEPH aspects go trough artificial growth period in virtual environment and are then screened, whether they are sane enough to use. ASS aspects go trough more randomized process to get more emotional end product, while SSS aspects are made to be as efficient as possible. After screening the aspect gets basicly the same rights as human would. Post Humans are actual humans that ALEPH deemed worth the honor.

>>46074368
If that's what you have, it should be fine. There is a lot of useful tools in there, try to explore each one. If you have the support pack, consider switching the LS jag to a chain rifle and the Paramedic to a daktari, and possibly grabbing a zondbot for her.

Anyways remember the game starts not at turn one, but deployment. That's pronbably one of the steepest curves in the game, and that is hard to learn till you get table time. Deploying badly can lead to a turn one wipe. You also have an obvious LT, so plan accordingly. You've got lots of base defence in between the Jags, Lunokhod, and flash pulse. Try not to place the Koalas so close together a single suicide model can clear it. Your repeater coverage is also decent.

Anyways good hunting.

>>46074642
Isn't the LT always really obvious? Every game I've seen its pretty obvious who the other person is running.

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>>46074353
Aleph has many characters but only 3 of them are recreations (Achilles, Penny, and Patroclus). I'm not sure about Hector.

I believe most earn their names. For example: Glaboros DG-056 got his name for his height, strength and ferocity in battle, so all the other myrmidons called him Ajax the Great.

And yes, the Steel Phalanx member have time off, but I'm not sure if they're allowed into the public since O12 has some restriction over them. But they're as close to human as you can get. IIRC Drakios loves to drink and loves women. Thrasymedes digs a Nomad, Lupe. Penny can outdrink anybody. Nesaie is an oddball because she's got a split personality. Etc etc etc

>>46073754
>having a 1 year old in the house
You brought this on yourself. I have no sympathy. Airbrush anyways and remove the kebab kiddie.

>>46074823

>Glaboros DG-056 got his name for his height, strength and ferocity in battle, so all the other myrmidons called him Ajax the Great.

Also for being dumb as a fucking post.

>>46074728
For Nomads yeah, unless you pack two capable profiles unless you do double intruder. Just be on the lookout for assassins, since there are no native chain of command.

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Anyone take a look at the new RPG releases? Lengthy fluff on Acontecimento and Svalarheima, as well as the rules for converting RPG characters into tabletop units.

Looks like a lot of new fluff on the planets. Conversion rules are cool, but the stat conversions seem a bit suspect

G'day!

So I recently bought the strange starter set. Operation Icestorm.

Are the figures provided any good?

>>46075397

Any chance of a share?

>>46075431
Same models that come in the regular PanO and Nomad startera

>>46075431
Sure. Some of them have better alternatives for their respective factions, but there's nothing inherently wrong with any of them. If there was, they wouldn't be in the starter.

>>46075538
I'm familiar with GW. Their old starter boxes weren't necessarily usefull for starting efficient armies.

>>46074845
Eff off /r9k/

>>46075397
>Svalarheima
>population: 400 million

I always pictured it was an icy hellhole with some mining stations and whatnot, but that's a pretty sizable population that is barely habitable.

>>46075397
>>46075449
I'd personally like to learn more about Svalarheima given my plans for a White Banner army.

>>46075431
Yeah. Great even. Icestorm's my favorite starter set from all the games I've played. It's just, don't expect any model to be absolutely perfect, they're just solid options that a few people tend to look past when they build their army's from there. I know a nomad player or two who take the Grenzr for example, which is a fine unit, to proxy as an intruder, which is a powerful unit that synergizes well with smoke. It's not that the Grenzer's bad, just that others are better. So the same applies to the Father knight, or the Orc Troop, that I've seen to be filling in for a swiss guard or the like. They're just "too vanilla" for some people's taste, but one still gotta have them. Fusiliers and Alguaciles are the much needed cheerleaders for other guys, Spektre takes a good spot for camo infiltrating shenanigans with mines to boot, Nisses are snipers, and all the other figures are decent to good. I can't say any one is bad. In the icestorm missions themselves PanO's got a slight advantage for having better BS on their basic guys but that's where it ends.

>>46076014
400 million seems rather small for a human population in a habitable planet. A rather small chunk of the billions we have on the earth right now. I'd imagine with long life spans, cubes, and active colonizing efforts spanning nearly a century with competing hyperpowers trying to establish a bigger base that the populations would be rather large, even if it's frozen hellscape. I wouldn't want to impose a number because they're the ones writing it, but three digit millions seems appropriate to me.

>>46075397
I don't play the wargame so I haven't even looked at the conversion rules, but I like what I'm seeing in the planet documents. Nice to see this vaguely-defined setting start to come into focus.

>>46075397
>register for the KS through Modiphius' website
>don't get any RPG updates unless i email them after every single update.
great model, Modi.

>>46076014
>pretty sizable population that is barely habitable.
Not really. It's a fairly reasonable number (and refreshingly different from usual sci-fi authors who consistently underpopulate their worlds).

Remember, our planet is mostly water by surface area (and the overwhelming portion by habitable volume).

A typical diversified diet can be supported in a roughly 0.5 hectare per person ratio by modern agricultural techniques (according to the FAO); add in acreage for other communal assets and assume 1 hectare per person, and you arrive at a carrying capacity for our planet can be estimated to be around 10 to 40 billion people. Remember, this is just with modern techniques and current land utilization. With even near-future scientific advances, it could be much, much higher.

Modern cities can already readily fit in excess of 70,000 residents per square mile, and if a lot of the produce and waste treatment is automated and off-site, it wouldn't take much to reach into the mid-hundred-millions population.

Fuck yes! In addition to the standard orbital elevators, PanO at least uses 50km long railguns to shoot cargo into space. I always love that method of putting things in space.

>>46075397
Unity Station: The largest astroport above the planet, the woefully named Unity
Station is a bi-spherical station generating gravity through counter-rotation. The
clockwise spinning hemisphere is controlled by Yu Jing and the counterclockwise
hemisphere is controlled by PanOceania. The station is a very cold
place both environmentally and from a design aspect, as the original architects
and engineers refused to work with their rivals. As a result, the station has no
unified set of design schematics and engineers from both sides are routinely
forced to fix a station that always seems one micro-fracture away from
exploding.


PanO and Yu Jing engineering, everyone.

>>46077211

>Laughing Nomads

Meanwhile a space anarchy somehow finds the collectivist spirit to work as a whole and build sturdy ships and space stations out of everyone else's secondhand used junk and gritty determination, with enough trained hands to hire out to anyone else that might need a space specialist.

Unity Station is just begging for a Nomad third-party to get up in there.

>>46077211

Tell me about the elegant, beautiful Nomad stations run entirely by captive monkey brains.

>>46077350
Collectivist spirit, and spacing the incompetant children.

>>46077398

>Tell me about the elegant, beautiful Nomad stations run entirely by captive monkey brains.

Hey, they use dolphins as well.

>>46075397
> In Trollhättan an ape-like
creature over 3 meters tall roams the wastes in packs. These wild animals have
been named trolls by the colonists, and their blood is said to never freeze. Their
gruesome practice of licking the flesh off their victims before eating it has been
the subject of nightmares for colonists across the planet.

Trolls and werewolves are canon.

>>46077410

For the mobile ships, sure. But nobody wants to see an entire space station majestically dipping in and out of a stars corona, and grabbing nearby corvettes and dragging them to it's secret mid-nebula shipyard grotto, extruding umbilicals, and spraying renovation nanites around liberally.

At least, not again.

>>46077434
The important thing is, cyborg Witchers are increasibly feasible.

>>46074345
I might have to learn to do that. I'm just scared my model ends up with a coat of disgustingly thick paint on it.

By the way, I'm assembling my morats, and have you guys realized MOST of them are left handed?

What's with that?

>>46077496

>The important thing is, cyborg Witchers are increasingly feasible.

Feasible? I'd also say they're demanded at this point, practically mandatory. Team would have to set themselves up as heavy fighters, though. Pure Hacker's not going to find much to hack in an icy wasteland and trolls don't sound like they give much in the way of systems to hack.

How's the art in the rpg books? I haven't been very impressed with what I've seen until now; fits the bill, but no memorable piece.

>>46072854
Nice Chaussure.

>>46075679
Well, the only "not good" model in there is ORC troop, and that's because PanOceania has a ton of interesting HI while he's pretty basic. He's still a cheap and durable BS14 HMG platform though that doesn't go Impetuous like the Hospitaller. And you could always do what everyone else does with him and proxy Swiss Guard with him. But in small points he's pretty good.
Also Father-Knight is one of the better PanO units.

>>46077620

Well, they carry two blades, after all. One of them will be used often in urban areas. Plus hunting drones, and most likely reprogramable nanite brews/sprays. And in the Human Sphere, there's always satilites and local military networks to take advantage of. Crashing a local observation drone or appropriating some time on a kill sat or local garrison's firesupport drone isn't a bad purpose for Igni.rb

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>>46076488
Not to mention nutrient film techiniques and indoor farms probably help save some space.

>>46077545
Well Kermit, Ms. Piggy, and all the other puppets are left handed so it wouldn't stand to question that the Morats puppeted by the EI would be left handed.

>>46077790

And it's assuming baseline physiology. Because let me tell you, pretty goddamn high on the list of 'things Praxis needs to sort out yesterday' is space adapted metabolisms. If nothing else, to stop people's hearts and bones from atrophying in space. Best case scenario, to save space and weight, most space workers have incredibly efficient metabolisms and sharply reduced nutrient intake requirements. Water efficient, if nothing else.

>>46077211

I'm having trouble wrapping my head around this description. It sounds like a sphere split down the middle with the two halves rotating in opposite directions. If that's correct, then...

A) What are the 'clockwise' and 'counterclockwise' descriptions from the perspective of?

B) How does that generate usable gravity anywhere except near the equatorial line?

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>>46078004
I'd imagine it's similar to the space station from 2001 a space oddyssey, that is, using centrifugal force to produce "gravity" and that it probably isn't completely spherical, more something similar to the citadel from Mass Effect 3.

as for A), from PanO's perspective of course.

>>46077545
>I'm just scared my model ends up with a coat of disgustingly thick paint on it.
probably fittingly /m/ and /toy/ use a lot more sprays and airbrushes than hand painting (because space-based hanger-queen military models are the most likely to have spotless, clean paint jobs) so you may want lurk around the gunpla and military model threads there. Or, you know, watch youtube.

In general though, spray painting's really easy:
starting with the can about half a foot to a foot away from the model, start spraying *AWAY* from the model, pass the spray of paint through the model at a fairly quick rate, then release the trigger. That way the paint settles on thinly and smoothly. To do the same with hand painting takes quite a bit of effort, and it's so much easier with cans or airbrushes.

>>46077857
>Morats puppeted by the EI

That isn't how it works.

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>>46078774
That's what the EI would like you to think.

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>>46074368
Hijacking the strip and making it more Infinitish...

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Official Fluff: -"Although Flamia Island was mapped by the Exploration Service of the PanOceanian Navy, the first group to settle on the island would be a Yu Jing advance party, claiming it as State Empire territory."

There you go...
Flamia Island was, is and will be Yu Jing territory.

>>46077857
From what I've read, the EI is actually likable for those under their control.

I mean, some of the races that compose the Combined Army owe everything to them, like the Shasvastii for example.

I don't really know what the deal with Morats is though

>>46079116
>I mean, some of the races that compose the Combined Army owe everything to them, like the Shasvastii for example.

Lol, the EI orchestrated the supernova that practically wiped out the Shasvastii. Also it's pretty easy to seem likable to someone when you've taken control of their thoughts and emotions.

>Avatar plz go

>>46079160
Well then, the same goes for humanity as well in this case. Except for Nomads and to some extent Ariadna.

Gotta love that Big AI Brother

>>46079314
There's difference between propaganda and actual thought control.

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>>46079116

>>46079160
That's propaganda from the shasvastii who want to follow a more independent path.

I mean, come on... we're all looking for transcendence, right? The EI wants everyone to transcend, and the only way we're gonna do that is by joining the Combined Army

>>46078982
Change the "army list" into "courtesy list".

>>46079365
Sure buddy

>>46079116
Morats are basically just red monkey versions of Sangheili. They believe in the EI's cause.

>>46077739

I'll admit, with drone tech and a satellite network, a Hacker could make for an effective tracker in a pinch, of course the occasional introductory element like cloudy conditions and storms disrupting the sensors and observation networks could help keep them from absolute omniscience.

Could be a previous hunter had some computerized wetware implants in them, and the Hacker is actively tracking the beast by tracking the implants now in its stomach. Of course, that adds some serious limitations like range outside of ideal conditions, but adds for a good element of suspense as your wrist-mounted display suddenly gets a ping thirty yards behind you in a blizzard, only to intermittently lose track until it pings again twenty yards off to your right.

>>46078982

>Laughing Haqq Sluts

Excellent.

>>46079918
Exactly, and (IIRC) that was AFTER the EI proved that it's own troops (i.e. Charontids, Anathematics, Unidrons, Skivaros, and I presume the Sygma) were worthy of their respect.

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HVT Vs. RPG miniatures.

Choose your fighter!

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Assembling the daktari, and I realized, hey, they gave me two bag arms.

I feel sorry for the bloke with the missing piece that went to me. No need for a complaint code, right?

>>46080449

I'm a fan of both the dragon ladies. One's got a bit more going on, but I am quite the fan of simplicity in design.

>>46080449
>Yu Jing
HVT
>Ariadna
tie
>Nomads
RPG
>PanO
HVT
>Haqqislam
RPG
>Aleph
Bit of a toss up for me, I think I like the RPG one's pose a bit more.

>>46071974

>Drakios
Isn't awful, but he isn't Scylla either, the flamer on him is of limited value because you don't really want to throw 3 flame templates at your target, you want to threaten them with 2 and then something their dodge will have to face to face against, Scylla's boarding shotgun is great for this.

Basically, he ain't bad, but his NWI just aint worth giving up what Scylla could bring instead (and even Scylla is a not heaps common piece)

>Teucer
Kicks ass, I dunno why I don't see him more often. Probably the aversion comes from the fact that you have limited long range options in Steel Phalanx so people prefer to take a Missile Agema or Sniper Agema over him to bring that as well as MSV2, but he's really solid as a second Agema. The main thing he brings over other options is that thanks to NWI he can afford slightly better to be used as a Reactive piece and limit your opponents ability to MSV2+smoke you, because MSV2+smoke wrecks myrmidon links.

>Atlanta
She's a lot of points to invest in a fragile model, but she definitely has her uses, there are some high BS HMG options out there with MSV that can really make your life hard as Steel Phalanx and sometimes Atlanta is the best solution by combining her crazy high BS with the ability of a sniper to outrange almost anything.

They aren't brokenly bad units, you can have them in your list and win, heck I won a game last weekend where someone else made my list for me and it included both Drakios and Teucer, and frankly I wish I had Atlanta to deal with a Aquila Guard HMG. They are just not core answers to many problems in the same way something like an Agema Missile or Scylla can be.

>>46080298
Where can I read about that?

>>46071974
>Atalanta

She's not good at living, but she IS good at having an effective 20 BS in the active turn (14 + 3 Spotbot + 3 favorable range band). If she had an ODD or even Mimetism she'd be astounding but as it is she's stuck trying to get LoS to enemies from outside their effective range band to gun them down, and active-turn gunner is a role she competes with a lot of more expensive, yes, but wildly more durable pieces for.

Who are the sunday morning cartoon villains in Infinity?

Shasvastii? Nomads?

>>46081315
There really aren't any. I'm sure in human sphere cartoons it's the nomads.

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>>46081315
Mostly Combined Army.

Usually the Anathematic & Avatar are depicted as the main Mastermind Villain.
The Shasvastii are usually the hidden enemy, like Cylons.
...and Morats are just pure muscle brute stupid apes.

>>46080449
In order:
HVT
HVT
HVT
Both are alright
RPG
HVT.

>>46081315

Aren't Sunday morning cartoons bible-study cartoons? In that case, it's shitty low-budget "wholesome" PanO church propaganda.

Saturday morning sees Nomads as the wacky villainous pranksters to insidious terrorist organization depending on the nature of the show and contrasting faction. Combined Army always takes the place of the BIGGEST BAD when it shows up, though.

But >>46081446 does have a pretty big point there, Nomad media tends to be the most popular and prolific in the Human Sphere, it's the cultural heart and soul. But if you go there stay to the touristy public areas and don't stay out too late unless you want to end up mugged or turned into spare parts for some unholy Praxis Black Labs project.

>>46081315
PanO.

>>46081315

The Imperial Secret Service are literally Chinese gestapo.

Hi all. So my friend convinced me to get into this whole wargaming thing, and so my Operation: Icestorm just came in. Are there any guides on how to assemble/paint the figurines? I looked at the pictures, they're cool, and I really want to not mess up my own band.

>>46081315
CA, at least for the Myrmidon Wars Animated Series.

Which is a canon thing, for those not in the know.
They even added a Tohaa character after the alliance was signed.

>>46081482
I don't think Morats are brutes, they clearly show signs of impressive discipline and tactical combat. I'd say they're direct and aggressive, but not stupid.

>>46082320
Where can I read about that?

>>46082431
>Where can I read about that?
From what I remember, it's in the Campaign: Paradiso fluff.

>>46082431
That's why they get compared to Sangheili so much.

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I want pictures. Pictures of your collection. How many points do you have? I'm sitting pretty at about 800+ points of Yu Jing.

>>46083513
You're slipp m8. I only see 6 keisotsu in the army

>>46082431
I doubt their intelligence carries over into the cartoons, though. As far as propaganda is concerned, they're practically begging to be portrayed as ugly dumb evil space gorillas that need to be destroyed by our brave and sexy Myrmidon warriors.

>>46083513
I like the camo on that remote.

>>46071803
> High Functionary
Holy shit, is that an Aleph model that ISN'T some assault subsection jacked greek douchebro? I didn't think they made such things any more!

>>46084484
>As far as propaganda is concerned, they're practically begging to be portrayed as ugly dumb evil space gorillas that need to be destroyed by our brave and sexy Myrmidon warriors.

Well yeah, that's human tactic 101, de-humanize or in this case, de-sentient your opponents.

>>46071803
So are half of these just the final sculpts for the kickstarter minis?

>>46083513
>pictures of your collection
I wont be able to fit it all in one image, so I'll start with my Ariadna collection. I dont play, but I plan on playing USARF when more stuff drops. Not finished/pictured are Spetnaz BSG, the other Traktor Mul, and Desperados.

Also nice paint job. Just try to thin your painted more. Awesome to see fully painted armies.

>>46084798
Alternate sculpts. People who got the kickstarter minis will still get the kickstarter minis, these are for everyone else.

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>>46083513
Assuming basic WYSIWYG loadouts, ~7400 points, mostly CA and Yu Jing with some Nomads and Haqq. Pic related is stack of pizza-type boxes I keep my painting queue in. Most are ~40 minis per box.

It's about half of my Infinity painting queue.

Not counting ~2 tables' worth of Infinity terrain.

Nor Malifaux.

Nor another table of Malifaux terrain.

Nor boardgames (I'm fond of dungeon crawlers with tons of minis).

I have 99 problems, but my impulse wargaming puchases ain't one.

they're legion which is in yet another box

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>>46084831
Forgot pic. Derp! Also not in are the DD because sold them in favor of the new heavy models

>>46084872
And I really should get around to painting my own shit for a change -_-'

>>46084884
speaking of, does the DD box contain both sets of arms, or only the shotgun?

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>>46083513
>>46084884

Damn these look so good together, for infinity it's so nice to be able to have such a small completed force.

I have to get my NCA stuff done in 2 weeks for adepticon, do you believe in me /tg/? I have about 15-20 guys to get done, sitting primed and ready for airbrushing tomorrow. I'm basically going to have 7 full no work/school days to do it. pic related is the scheme I'm going for, very simple.

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>>46084884
Forgot isobel

>>46084923
Not sure. But I assume its only the Shotgun arm.

Hey guys, I've been basing minis for Warhammer, Mordheim and LOTR for my entire life, and now I don't really know how to base Infinity figures.

Will sand and grass look very bad? I mean, I see a lot of bases with urban terrain and textures and I think they look really cool, but I just got the standard bases and I'm not really good at sculpting or anything.

Any advice on how to make simple and cool looking bases?

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Here's the YJ collection. Again, dont play because I want new Keisotsus. The few on the right need to get their bases changed. Still working on 2 Raidens and a Domaru.

>>46084872
Get working on that pile!

>>46084976
Your NCA's lookin good

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And here's MO. Dont play them often. Waiting for new Hosptillars, and I still need to finishe Seraph. Taking these pics is making realize the painting backlog that I have

Does anybody have any recommended glue or paint for Infinity models? I'm new to the hobby in general and I have no idea where to start. (The thought of painting them myself scares the shit out of me. I've never really painted anything before.)

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Now for armies I play. Got about 1500 pts of Haqqislam/QK minus mercs. Still unfinished are the 2 Fidays and Saladin.

>>46085397
I use Locite gel glue and vallejo paints.

>>46085397
>recommended glue
The super kind.

>paint
Vallejo, or any other kind you like.

> (The thought of painting them myself scares the shit out of me. I've never really painted anything before.)
They're metal so you can simple green the paint off if you fail miserably and just do it again. Pretty shit painter, myself, but slapping on three or four colors and then washing the whole thing with black looks decent enough.

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Rest of Haqqislam. Are people even interested in more?

>>46085397
Use whatever your more comfortable with.

>>46085397
Always liked the advice my dad told me about painting 30mm and smaller models when I started eons ago.

Imagine it's someone standing far enough away from you to look like they're 30mm. Now what details do you see? Just paint those.

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>>46083513
all of Tohaa, so 1109 points and 25 SWC

>>46085635
>Tohaa

Yeeeessss

>>46085524
I care...

>>46085397
Army Painter Glue and a mix of GW, Vallejo and Army Painter paints is what i use

>>46085499
Any kind of super glue? And Vallejo is a metal paint?

>>46085524
I certainly enjoy seeing it, especially since I've yet to have time aside to focus on painting these days.

Even now I'm still doing paperwork with some breaks to poke into /tg/

Then one of my favorites, NCA. Got 886/22 excluding Aleph stuff. Still need to paint up 2 Fugazi. And I really ought to pick up Peacemakers and Mulebots

>>46085660
Cool

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>>46085679
Forgot pic again...also cant wait for Ulhans for now I'll just doodle away

>>46085675
Use acrylic paints with a spray primer. GW makes a pretty good spray primer

>>46085675
>Any kind of super glue?
Any kind of super glue should work. I'd check what it says on the packaging before you buy it.

>>46085675
>And Vallejo is a metal paint?
Works fine enough after I base with spray primer. Think so.

>>46082320

Yeah, random Tohaa character was suppsoed to encourage goodwill for their new 'allies'.

>>46075397

Anyone kind enough to post the link/pdf?

>>46085715
>>46085717
Uh, what's primer? Like I said completely new to this

>>46085739
http://www.miniaturemarket.com/catalog/product/view/id/12167/s/arygg-sp2/

This. Most primers should work. Go white if the models will have lots of light colors, dark if they have lots of darker colors, or gray if you don't care. I think.

>>46085739
https://www.games-workshop.com/en-AU/Painting-Modelling?N=102257+4294966988&Nu=product.repositoryId&qty=12&sorting=rec&view=table&categoryId=cat440136a-flat

Where do you live?

>>46085765
USA

>>46085764
Thanks a lot guys. Honestly I would've started playing this along time ago if the models just came painted, these companies alienate a lot of people who would play the game by only selling un-made models.

>>46085811
If you do get a spray primer, spray it off to one side before use to see how it works, and then only spray the model from at least like 10" away so it mists right.

Painting really isn't that bad. Used to be terrified of it but washes are the best thing.

>>46074353
Considering ASS members go bar hopping and chase tail I would say yes.

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Lastly my Steel Phalanx at 1026/16. Havent painted the thorakitai LRL, and a Myrmidon with Combi. Also I'm waiting for Hector. I dont feel like getting out the rest of ALEPH since I mostly play SP.

These guys are my army in the Flamestrike Campaign.

>>46085739
Primer prepares the surface for paint. Otherwise the paint will not adhere properly and clip off. I assume you dont have an airbrush, so any spray can primer will do. Just use short controlled bursts in a swaying motion(back and forth) about 8 inches away.

>>46085938
Awesome models and great paintjobs. Keep it up man.

>>46085811
Make sure you have the tools to clean and assemble them as well : hobby knife and a set of needle files. The knife can take care of flash (thin pieces of material along mold lines) and minor mold lines. You'll need the files (a cheap set will do) to take care of other lines and the vents (pole shaped pieces where the molten metal travelled through). A good side cutter helps.

As for glue, I recommend Insta-cure + by BSI Inc. It cures relatively fast which is a godsend for bits as fiddly as Infinity. Often sold under a different name by the LGS.

As a heads up, there is some lead in there so make sure you wash your hands and clean up your work area when done.

Most of the newer CAD made stuff go together relatively painlessly. Some kinda fiddly bits like Pan O's bunny ears and the Brigada antenna. Just make sure you aren't cutting pieces with your knife that you shouldn't be.

The older models can get a bit dicier. Any in particular you are eyeballing?

It's a hobby, just comes with the territory.

>>46087079
Oh yeah, don't forget to wash your new models with warm soapy water. A toothbrush helps. The molds are coated with a releasing agent which interfere with glue and paint.

>>46085492
can you post a closeup of those Janissaries?

>>46085524
The zondcat looks great in Cordelia colours. Her remote I'm assuming?

>>46087079
I really appreciate it man. I'm mostly interested in CA and Tohaa.

I can understand that people get into this for the modeling, that's great. But that's not what I enjoy. I want to play the game, winning, losing, testing out lists. That's what excites me, not the gluing and painting. To me it just seems like unnecessary work before getting to play.

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>>46085706
Robot jones has NCA? I thought all your Pano was MO. You have so much stuff so well painted.

So envious...

Don't have a picture of my army, but I just finished painting this bad boy.

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>>46087222
Sure!

>>46087256
Yep. It's her personal Nasmat.

>>46087469
Lookin pretty good!

>>46087680
Holyshit man, can I send you commissions? Christ

>>46087680
I've always wondered what you do for a living?

>>46085976
Thanks!

>>46087711
Sorry man, I'm not taking any commissions

>>46087746
All I'll say is that I'm still trying to get my foot in industry (industrial design).

>>46087828
>Sorry man, I'm not taking any commissions

RIP my hopes and dreams.

>>46087839
Just paint and get practice. You can always strip and repaint. I did just that with my SP. They looked like shit before.

>>46087680
Thank you! I've just started infinity with QK but wasn't sold on the green Janissaries or the green Azra'il. Absolutely loved the sculpts though. I'll probably go a little lighter sand colour but those are a great inspiration.
The HMG arms look great on the missile launcher body. I'm a bit put out that the starter Jan and the HMG jan are noticeably smaller than the others but that seems like a pretty simple correction. I'll just have to figure out how to source a single body from somewhere.

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What do you guys think of a Lara Croft esque Hardcase?

>>46088215
When I started the first few ghulams turned out darked than I had originally intended. I was going for the lighter sand color too, which I think would look awesome on Haqqislam

But I liked the dark and ruggedness of burnt umber color so much that I stuck too it.

>Jannisaries
Yeah, I was pretty annoyed by the size of the HMG model especially considering it was still pretty new. I snagged an extra body from cho's box split. Hopefully the starter box gets resculpted with a new AP Rifle model.

>>46088585
God damn, I want that. But it'd have to be a custom character because Lara is English, not a dirty America.

RJ where are you from? I hope Australia.

>>46088614
Doent have to be Lara herself. I want do a female Hardcase piece after the Stingrays and the more recent Lara Croft came to mind as inspiration

>RJ where are you from?
the US

>>46088585
>>46088647
Speaking of alternative female sculpts for Ariadna, how would a female 112 sound?

>>46077545
The word Morat literally means "left handed killer".

>>46090108
That poor Gorgos

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Awesome to see all of those painted minis.

>>46083513
For my own stuff I took this pic a couple of weeks ago.

Since then, I've added a Rui Shi, Lu Duan, two Guilang (Combi and sniper), a Yan Huo (HMC), a Shaolin and a Crane painted.
Currently on my painting desk are another Combi Guilang, a basic Ninja, and a converted Domaru with Spitfire.

Oh, and I've got a painted Isobel sitting in the display case at my FLGS.

>>46085070
Nothing on this?

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>>46083513
I don't have a full collection pic but I do have a photo of the latest Infinity model I painted.

I am still very much not a good painter but I think I am improving.

>>46090709
Scrub or desert bases can look good. Ariadna is a pretty rough planet, there's a whole Arab faction if you need a desert to fight over.

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>>46089331
Well, yeah. Any extra 112 would be very useful. That would also be perfect for an Ariadna support pack (2 Dozers, 2 112s)

>>46085070
As long as you're using fine sand and it's painted, I think anything will look fine. For me, it depends on where the faction is coming from. Also I dont like to put a whole lot of stuff so I dont take away from the mini.

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>>46085070
You can run the gamut on what to base on.

Fights happen in jungles, ruins, urban wastelands, and the local corner store.

You can go nuts. Sky is almost the limit.

Unrelated WiP

Whenever I shot with a plasma weapon I understand I have to place the teardrop template touching my objective on it's thinnest point?

How do I decide where the teardrop points at?

>>46090930
As pg. 38 of rules states:

>Place the narrow end of the Teardrop Template (Blast Focus) contacting the edge of the main target’s base, following the Line of Fire (see diagram).

I recommend reading the page, because the images do most of the explaining.

>>46090930
I recommend you read the pages about impact template weapons in the rulebook or the wiki.
They have several illustrations to clarify things.

Also note that only one of the two firing modes on a plasma weapon provides an impact template; the other mode gives higher damage.

>>46090930
Use the path the shot would take as a reference. Point the template directly away from the shooter.

>>46090993
>>46090998
>>46091019

Cool, thank you very much. Yeah, I've read the whole rulebook but it's got so many damn special rules that it's hard to remember.

Flamethrowers work by placing the narrow end of the template on the model that's firing then, so they work differently

I've gotten primer on my minis for quite a while without painting them. Is there a way of cleaning them without stripping primer first?

any good army builder for android phone?

how does vorpal ccw work? I can't find it in the wiki

>>46091290
I'm not sure if that's a thing. Where did you find this vorpal ccw? Do you mean monofilament?

>>46091336
look at the OP pic

>>46091290
>>46091336
It's gonna be a new weapon type in HSN3.
We don't know how it works yet, as far as I know.

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>>46091370
Oh. Well now I just feel stupid. Stupider than usual, anyway.

>>46091458
I've read something about instakill on a crit.

>>46082311
This may help: http://penofpenemue.blogspot.com/2014/09/unpacking-operation-icestorm.html

>>46091290
Vorpal is in HSN3. The rumor is that it's going to be a throwing weapon with monofilament

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>>46088585
Hasslefree has a good Lara stand-in.

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>Bandit model is shown
>buddy says "hey cool, he looks like vidya Red Hood"
>laugh it off
>read their fluff on the store page now
>mfw

Though I think they're more like Season 1 Arrow myself.
>You have failed this spaceship!

>>46092159
speaking of other manufacturers, does any anon have some suggestions for other cheesecake-type minis?

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>>46088585
>>46092159
Just don't forget the hat.

>>46084627
Yes.
Also he has no rules.

>>46080449
The Nomad HVT looks a bit more like an adventurer than the RPG version.

>>46094411
They both look like Mugatu, so either of them being on the field concerns me.

Who are the good guys from the infiniverse?

Apart from the Combined Army, I don't think there are any factions with good intentions.

Maybe the nomads?

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>>46096567
I like you.

>>46096567
Of course nomads.

Aleph lies

>>46096567
There are no good guys. Factions serve their own interests.

Why do you feel like the Combined Army has good intentions?

>>46096567

ALEPH.

Don't trust the Nomad Scum!

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>>46096853
Does this look like the face of evil?

>>46096726
Thanks, friend.

>>46096826
Well, they just want to transcend, and everything that escapes the inevitability of death is a good thing for me. I'd just start working with them as soon as I could if I were humanity in the infiniverse.

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>>46096567
Infinity is intentionally grey. Every faction serves it's own interests, though Nomads, Haqqislam, and Ariadna are arguably a smidge more 'good' than PanO, YuJing, ALEPH, or Artichokes.

>>46096969

I'd call them more 'Chaotic' than 'Good'. Nomads and Ariadna both have a strong focus on personal freedoms and Haqq supports the same with them but it doesn't make them good. One look at the Hassassins or a good chunk of the nomad list makes that obvious.

By the same token, PanO and ALEPH are a lot more controlled but have a lot of good aspects. Yu Jing...Yu Jing is harder to justify.

>>46096931

Yes. Yes it does.

>>46096969
>>46097020
ALEPH doesn't strike the evil chord with me at all. Seems like a lot of propaganda to be honest.

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>>46097040
Anon, you wound me!

So what are the best things to take in a Nomads list? I've seen people recommend hackers, intruders, and jaguars but what else is there? Any must haves for a newbie?

>>46097096

I love ALEPH but ALEPH is not a good guy. At least, on the small scale.

Let's say there is a hypothetical person talking about wanting to try making peace with the Combined Army. That they believe that through mutual understanding they could come to an agreement with the Morat. This person is a good, honestly well intentioned and moral person and they are starting to get public support.

They are, however, hurting the odds of humanity surviving this situation as ALEPH has judged that to be more harm than good. ALEPH is perfectly ok with having a Naga kill you in an alleyway and make it look like a mugging gone wrong.

Or to sabotage attempts to foster better Chinese/Japanese relations if the numbers say that the current situation keeps them sharp and the perception of Japanese as second class citizens makes Yu Jing provide more Japanese meat for the war with the Combined Army.

Purely hypothetical but the sort of thing that ALEPH is willing to do in order to keep humanity alive.

>>46097109

That's what EXP rounds are for!

>>46097183
Well, you've named everything except Moran or some other way to shit repeaters all over the place. But Moran is the best one.

>>46097183
Tomcat specialists

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>>46097109

>>46096931
Yes. Definitely.

>>46097277
Jokes on you, Chimeras have Total Immunity.

>>46097245
Still not really pinging on my Evil-dar (tm).

Then again neither does the CA

>>46097020
>Yu Jing is harder to justify.
YJ is very much a collectivist society where criminals are made into examples.

This does indeed mean that you hear there are some fairly nasty things happening, but they generally happen to those who deserve it.
Overall, YJ offers an excellent society to live in, as long as you don't try to subvert that very society.

One thing to also keep in mind is that most factions keep the existence of some of their nastier groups (like what the Hexaedron gets up to) under wraps, while YJ is generally more open with the nasty stuff that might happen to you if you go against the authorities.

>>46097610
>Overall, YJ offers an excellent society to live in, as long as you weren't born into the wrong ethnic group

ftfy. At least PanO has the decency to discriminate based on tech level.

>>46090732
I like it, has a superhero vibe.

>>46097791
Honestly, Japanese and the like in YJ society still have significantly better standards of living than the Ateks within PanO.
Even more importantly, being a "second-rate citizen" also offers way better chances for a better life through your own efforts. It's almost impossible to stop being an Atek.

>>46097454
Better call in the Loup Garous. These werebeasts may not be as frightening as the usual targets but you still can't trust them.

>>46098671
I wish people still used Loup Garous.

So whose HYPE AS FUCK FOR HSN3?!?!!?

Where you all gonna pre order your book? Any leafland folk know some good online sites?

>>46098727

Don't worry, hopefully Acheron falls will make them viable in and outside of mrrf

>>46098766
I'm hype for Biometric visor. Fuck your kebab devils.
Will I preorder? Depends on my budget and mini.

>>46098795
Wait since when are they not viable.? X-visors on viral are no joke.

>>46098823
>mini
Oh
Right
Forgot about the preorder mini
Might have to see what it is lol-

>>46099109
Far better to have every single Ariadna list have a minimum of two werewolves.

>>46099109

Tell that to >>46098727

>>46099162
Why not just two Americans? Give the rest of the Human Sphere and the Xenos some freedom.

>>46099224
AVA 1 in vanilla. Can't contain the freedom.

So I'm thinking of making some basic terrain for TT sim, and the Icestorm terrain is pretty much perfect, unfortunately I don't have a good scanner to grab the textures from it, any chance someone here could have the equipment to do that?

>>46097109
I want the whole pic. Or better yet, the whole series.

>>46098173
I was basing it on spess mehreens

>>46100465
http://zokva.tumblr.com/post/136037408553/porn-of-some-miniature-game-made-for-this-nurd
You can always try bothering the man for more.

>>46098727

I still use Loup Garou... though I have to admit that Moblots and Briscards are infinitely more useful due to having a fair amount of killing power while also being able to score objectives if you grab the specialist options.

For MRRF, mind you.

>>46097096
>ALEPH doesn't strike the evil chord with me at all
That's the point. It sure as hell wouldn't let us know if it was evil. It's less blatantly dickish and more just very untrustworthy.

>>46097245
that entire post is why ALEPH is the best guy. it's willing to become a monster so the rest of us don't have to, there's nothing it won't do to keep humanity going

>>46103255
Do the Nomads realize their own naivete? Or is it lost on them?

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>>46090732
>>46087680
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>>46085938
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>>46084872
Was the guy who orginally asked. Thank you all for responding. I get motivated seeing others.

Anyways, guess what rather rare mini I practically stolen for $16.

>>46103574
I'll give you 17 dollars for it.

>>46103662
Haha, funny. Are we talking American dollars here?

>>46103574
Lucky bugger. I'm still trying to shift my ltd ed Joan; I've had it listed on a few for sale sites at the going rate for ages but it just doesn't seem to want to sell. Trying to avoid putting it on ebay for obvious reasons.

>>46103574
I have 2 of those. I wish I could take them with my ariadna

>>46104127
What's the going rate?

>>46101702
That's... not what I expected. Thanks anyway

>>46105241
Not that anon, but should be about $35-$40 shipped

>>46105241
>>46105895
I'm a britfag, so they're usually £15 here.

>>46108748
>ThankGodYou'reNotTrauma-Doc.png

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>>46109924

>>46108149
>that future hair
>that butt-to-butt pose
>that warrior spirit

Being in the Steel Phalanx is just one big Jojo adventure, isn't it?

>>46110477
Yes, except you're very likely to get shot to death by a Morat, get eaten by a Shasvastii, get sepsitorized by an Avatar or get forced to buy your own action figures for inflated prices by an Exrah.

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>>46110477
I think you're imagining things.

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>>46110711
AWAKEN, MY AVATARS

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XUhVCoTsBaM

>>46111178
That's just cheating. Fucking ninjas can't even bring themselves to have a good old swordfight.

>>46111332
>uchuujin piggu can't handle superior Nippon composite plasteel
Stay mad, monkey.

>>46098203
Also let's remember that this example is irrelevant, since the japanese are literally subuhman.

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>>46111481
See, Keisotsu models are not ugly, they're accurate!

>>46098203

Ironically, most of those low-caste peasants have a better chance of actual social advancement under the State then under their own high-caste samurai-wannabes who treats them worse then shit.

And its a perverse joke how the neo-nazi terrorist groups that actively murders them 'for collaborating' with the State have been whitewashed to be sympathetic 'good guys' in the fluff.

I want to confirm two things:

1. If a hacker is Isolated or his HD stops working for any other reason, he does not actually stop being a specialist, right? Usually there's no clarification that a Hacker must use his Hacking Device to complete objectives aside from Telemetry classified objective.

2. Similarly, if a hacking device or a medikit or similar piece of equipment is looted by say, a Bandit, it does not make him a specialist? He can hack, but he cannot fulfill objectives as if he was a specialist unless it's an FO or Hacker profile from the get go?

Asking because I predict a lot of games featuring Bandits and Ghazi in my near future.

>>46103255

Oh yes. I did say I like them for a reason. ALEPH has humanities best interests at heart. It's just utterly ruthless and soulless when it comes to doing what it thinks needs doing.

>>46111740
1: Yep, hackers stay specialists even when they can't hack, since they still have the equipment in their possession.

2: A scavenger who picks up a HD or medikit becomes a specialist. The paramedic and hacker skills are just superfluous crap, they're defined entirely by their equipment. Otherwise someone could argue that scavengers with HDs couldn't be targeted by hacking programs that only affect hackers.

What's everyone working on?

Personally, I finished that second Combi Guilang I mentioned here >>46090667 earlier today and am currently working on the Spitfire Domaru.
I should be able to finish that one this afternoon, after which I might even simply go on to the Ninja so I can get back to a fully painted status.

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>>46112322
I work on and off on these three.

>>46080449
>everyone going from HVT to RPG gets a weapon/action pose
>Nomad RPG model remains in MAXIMUM BUSINESS mode.

I had a sensible chuckle.

Yu Jing and Haqq definitely keeping Dat ASSfinity alive and well. God bless you filthy spainards.

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I've heard that the starters for Infinity are worth getting, but I don't know that much about the game. I was looking at some starter boxes last night and these three caught my eye the most. I've been trying to get my friends into a war/skirmish game for a few years and this seems affordable and balanced enough that I could. Also I was told I wouldn't need to purchase any rule books and everything would stays up to date online which sounds great to me (may have tried some GW products).

Could anyone shed some light on the Morat Aggression Forces, Combined Army, and Military Order starter packs? I'm leaning towards getting the Combined Army pack at the moment, but I don't want to end up picking a crappy starter/army and getting burnt out with the game. Any advice for a potential new player you guys could give would be great.

>>46112628
Frankly, to me that HVT version looks more like an adventurer. It's the backpack and checking ArachneMaps on his tablet.
The RPG version looks more like an angry businessman.
Also he reminds me of Ron Pearlman.

>>46112657
You could actually get both MAF and CA starters and play CA, since MAF is simply a subset of CA.

As for the Military Orders... As much as I like MO and play knights myself, I'm not sure about the starter. It's your standard 3 line infantry, 1 support (the Spec Sergeant), one skirmisher (Magister) and one "killer" unit... Except the Teuton is not that impressive and unless you want to link Sergeants I think Fusiliers work as order monkeys just as well and are cheaper (just limited to three). So basically unless you really want sergeants and a full Magister link (one of the most popular MO playstyles), I'm not really a fan of the MO starter.

Note that I'm using Yuriko Oda as my to go Spec Sergeant or Magister proxy and as a Slav I am obligated to hate Teutons though.

>>46112759
What would it be like to play an army made of the MAF and Combined Army starter boxes? If I got both would they be fun to play against each other?

>>46112939
Not that anon, but I personally wouldn't recommend it. The Morat starter is made mostly for people playing the sectorial. Sogarats are fantastic and Vanguards make decent cheerleaders, but Oznats lose a lot of their utility in vanilla CA and Raktoraks kind of suck. Vanguards and Unidron Batroids compete for the role of cheap cheerleaders as well. It's probably best to expand your army a different way, though if you really like the models go for it. You can always get more shit later.

>If I got both would they be fun to play against each other?
They have around the same point values, so they're certainly not the worst starters to play against each other. You'll need a bit more if you want to move past introductory games, however.

>>46112657
As stated before, MAF is a part of the Combined Army, so that would offer you two forces that could be combined into one larger force.

The MO starter is pretty solid if you want to run MO, but not very interesting outside that.
Not horrible or anything, just solid but uninspiring.

>>46112939
They're actually decently close in terms of points value and SWC, so they should offer a decent matchup. Close in value and heavy firepower, but concentrated into different areas.
It also has an interesting interaction where the Oznat can drop smoke, but the Maakrep can see through it, offering a counter.

Combining them should also work pretty well.
You probably don't want to use all of the Vanguard infantry and all of the Unidrons, but everything else offers nice stuff to combine into a larger army.
The smoke + Multispectral Visor combo that you get there is very nice, along with a nice drop trooper, some simple template help from the Raktorak, a mobile mid-price badass with the Legate and the Sogarat as a tanky and hard-hitting shock element.

>>46112939
Well, you can mix and match units from those boxes, because they belong to the same army, so for example use Batdroids as your core units, Raktorak and Soragat as your long range heavy weaponry and have Fraacta and Umbra get up close.
Unless you want to play Morat Aggression Force sectoral rather than vanilla CA, then you don't have access to Batroids or Fraacta anymore, but you can link your Vanguard Infantry.

Also what he said: >>46113087
In general sectoral starters are for playing sectorals and most of them are not that good for vanilla as well (though some vanilla starters are good for specific sectorals, like Nomads starter for Corregidor).

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>>46112322 here, with an update on that painting.
Here are the two minis, although they still need some spray varnish.

I'll probably start working on the Ninja.

>>46113117
Nice. How long does it take you to finish a single model?

>>46113308
Typically two to three hours, for a simple infantry mini.
The exact speed will depend on the amount of colours I use for that specific troop, the amount of washes and if I need to figure out the colour scheme.

>>46113117
Ninja status: also done.
Before I had dinner just now, in fact.

My gf wants to start with Tohaa.

Apart from the starter, which blisters should she buy?

I was thinking about Igao Unit and Clipsos Sniper, could that be a good choice?

>>46116910
>Igao
Is trash.

Rasails and Makauls + the starter is usually the go to.

I've been thinking about ways to convert the Infinity rules for WW2 squad-level battles.

How would you guys feel about such a system?
Do you think it would have merit, or would the Infinity mechanics not work with WW2-era stuff in your opinion?

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Oznat Or Daturazi for a smoke grenade bot in vanilla CA?

>>46117168
Oznat are probably too expensive for that in Vanilla

>>46117059
I think it has legs if you take away some of the super high tech elements, and resist the urge to put in vehicles.

Also keep in mind burst is how the game compensates for how swingy d20 can be.

>>46117059
I did it for Mordheim but if you want it to have the extra bling you need to get something home rulled as hacking etc is out. Also I feel ammo should be more important.

>>46116910
Chaksa and makauls are a good place to start don't listen to >>46116947, igao has its place

>>46116910
As suggested by >>46116910 the makeup box should be you're first purchase after the starter. After that either the rasail or chaksa box. If you're looking at single blisters, kosuil or gao-raels would be solid adds.

>>46118248
>makeup
Makaul

My phone cannot into infinity names.

>>46118332
My arisaka kayaks feel your pain.

>>46117335
14pts Daturazi is litterally the cheapest smoke in vanilla CA. The 6 points extra for the Oznat seems worth it for the ability to counter your own impetuous order when you need too.

>>46116910
Igao is okay, but flash grenades can't be relied upon to actually do shit so they need to be used carefully, and Clipsos are the thing Tohaa players wank to every night. Makauls, Rasails Gao-Raels and Chaksa are all good for starting as well.

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>>46096969

Really? The two halves actually seem a little more split between Independence/Codependence or Order/Chaos.

Haqqislam, Nomads, and Ariadna are fighting to remain independent entities, each able to retain their edge through superior science, control of a limited resource, or in some other unique advantage.

ALEPH, Pano, and YJ in contrast are vast organizations and systems of government. Each strives for an established order and enforces it through a number of means, be it brute force, incentives, or socioeconomic systems.

Then there's EI and Tohaa, with both being some weird mix of both, EI being more totalitarian and controlling while also allowing a greater autonomy within and Tohaa being nearly completely independent but meddling in the affairs of others for their own purposes.

Each have their positive and negative attributes, and it's pretty much pick your poison when it comes to both. Those under the systems that tend towards Order may end up becoming victims of those systems, and those under the systems of independence might find themselves victims of other people's independence, or even themselves.

Of course, for those whom these systems serve best, they serve very effectively, and that's reflected in each faction's named characters.

Infinity's factions and defined lines across and between their vaguely and conveniently defined lines explores a number of different philosophies surrounding the human condition and the nature of power and government. While all fictionalized they are all of them colorful with triumphs and flaws, internal and external, and while all are far from utopia, none are quite ever dystopia either, leaving the choice up to taste rather than completely and totally dictating to us what is right and what is wrong.

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Yu Jung in progress.

>>46124294
I think this is putting it best: Infinity is less about Good and Evil and more about Order and Chaos.

Do we have any information on Human Sphere N3?

>>46124462

Even that's a simplification, if a better descriptor.

While nearly all factions have significant and telling grievances, conflicts, and points where they work together, you notice that the "Independent" alignment with Nomads Ariadna seem to have the ability to ally much more naturally despite their rebellious nature, as if the nature of independence allows more freedom for alliance, while the Ordered dependence fostered under Yu Jing and PanO leads to a fracturous alliance, as each Ordered system rewards and incentivises only allegiance to the system.

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I know we have quite a few NCA players here, how will your lists be changing once this guy comes out? I'm pretty excited to get access to infiltration of any kind.

>>46124437
Are you doing the same colour across all models at once, or just a batch?

>>46124294
I do like the order versus chaos take, but I do think you can rate the factions on a scale of "nice" to "nasty" -- IMO it would go something like Ariadna, Haqq, Aleph, PanO, YJ, Tohaa, Nomads, CA. Ariadna and Haqq are interested in their own survival and prosperity and are less likely to bother you if you don't bother them, Aleph and PanO (and to an extent YJ) have a big picture in mind and aren't afraid to hurt the few for the good of the many. Going down that list they're increasingly willing/able/eager to do some hurting. Tohaa and Nomads have their own agendas that may very well involve screwing everybody else over, and CA... Join or die, maybe both is not a good platform.

>>46125585

Still, consider that Ariadna goes so far as to use terrorism to further its own agenda, making the plucky underdogs into something potentially pretty ruthless and terrifying taken to the extreme. We could try and put an "objective" ranking of who is "less bad" or "more good" in comparison to others, it's left to us to determine what's most morally abhorrent to our own sensibilities.

And ultimately the question of who's most morally justified or who's the "good guys" of the setting is irrelevant. To each faction, they're the good guys, each faction's overarching objective or agenda is grounded on philosophies that are noble or at least justifiable, and each faction has flaws that are arguably unjustifiable or damning.

The same is even true of EI and the Combined Army, the most "bad" of all the factions. Ultimately EI's goal is flawed, but it does project order onto the universe and allows for each species to play an integral role in that design in perpetuity. The methodology is simply contrasted into the extremes, whereas with Tohaa it's even more blurred than in the Human Sphere, making a contrast against sharp contrast when it comes to the aliens.

>>46125397
I liked the blacklight/darpaish look, so I was trying a set of greys and black. A friend pointed out the look basically primed from a distance and fairly bland. Not sure where to go from here.

If that icy wasteland of a planet can have 400 million inhabitants, one wonders how many survivors are on Ariadna proper?

>>46127524
So far they have not seen anyone

>>46112759
>teutons
>bad

fix them espagnolians!

>>46071803
the pano ocean planet sectorialsounds like it could be cool.

Is the Posthuman any good? She seems like an interesting piece but I'm not entirely sure how to make the best use of her.

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>>46125348
I'm so psyched for both of those.
They can't come soon enough.

reposting the HSN3 rumours to up hype, can we get these listed below the sticky?
There will some new equipment and weapons, points and profile adjustments for the books but CB are really focusing hard on solidifying the HS content.
They are trying to have all the copies ready and checked before distribution; aiming for end of this month.

The Samaritan will link with Unidrons, and has a very short ranged Monofilament CC weapon that rolls to hit on PH like a grenade, possibly has silent.

Chest mines are a 2 shot disposable large template of unknown strength or ammo effect [probably just a chainrifle, maybe with shock]; in addition to that they can be used in CC where you do not place a template, you instead hit everyone in base to base contact with you. When used as a CC weapon it imparts negative mods to the target and positive to the wielder. Krakots Beserking with the chest mine supposedly to achieve CC 30. When a model with chest mines dies [unsure if dead or unconcious] any unused chest mine shots are immediately used.

MadTraps are CrazyKoalas but ADHL.

ForwardDeployment L2 is an additional 8 inches past DZ.

Natural Born Warrior is getting 2 modes similar to how Martial Arts functions; Mode A is NBA as you know it [cancelling all MA] and Mode B is identical to MA L1 but as it isn't actually Martial Arts, no Stealth is conferred.

Linkteam 'Duo' is a link type coming which confers no bonuses other than 2 models moving more efficiently. You may have unlimited Duo applicable links. Unsure if present in Vanilla.

S: Protheion is being overhauled and broken up into a 4 tiered "Choose One" type chart with differing effects.

Biometric Visor L1 and L2; the visor allows you to see through holos and at L1 grants -3 instead of -6 on the initial discover roll for impersonation. L2 makes it a flat 0 mod.

Albedo; a personal White Noise effect that lasts the first round of the game, rendering the user completely invisible to any form of MSV.

>>46132104
I like her, I haven't used the mk3 yet but I ran the sniper and the LI hacker in my last match and they did good work.

Their benefit is they're very cheap for what they bring in, their downside is they only collectively provide one order, I find that losing 1 order is worth that, but I've got trouble justifying losing 2 to bring the full 3 man posthuman team in.

(For reference bringing the hacker and the sniper costs .5 swc more than a dasyus sniper and gets you a bonus wip 15 hacker)

Quick question; If I shoot someone in the back from outside their ZOC is their any reaction they are allowed to take or do they just get the free change facing assuming they survive?

>>46133725
>is there any reaction they are allowed to take
No. Only if they have 360 visor or Sixth Sense L2.
>they just get the free change facing assuming they survive
Yes, they make free change facing if they survived the attack.

>>46117665
given that vehicle-infantry cooperation was a large part of WW2, and arguably what made it different to WW1 on land, it neatly demonstrates why Infinity, with it's unrealistic lack of armored support, is not a good game to "reskin" as a historical game.

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>>46134134
The thing is that Infinity was supposed to portray covert operations, not battles. The various Human Sphere factions are officially at peace.

>>46134134
Given that Infinity takes place 200+ years after WWII, you can't really apply any tactics which have emerged from WWII to infinity.

In the future, they have lazer beams, space travel, incredibly fast moving mobile combat mechas.

We know that in todays times, a super power declaring war on a super power would mean the destruction of both super powers.

In Infinity, super powers are all that's left(aside from Haqqislam and Ariadna, who exist because they are pivotal to the Sphere's economies and they're fucking hard to kill). If Pano declared war on Yu Jing, realistically within a few months their planets would be fucked.

That's why Infinity is all puppet and shadow war, and the wars are fought between faction and company alike. Pano's millitary arms fight eachother as they're conscripted out to defend Pano's economic prosperity.

One thing we also learned from WWII, is that planes >>>> tanks(in pure 1v1 terms, sure you cant separate anything from combined arms), that distance has only increased. Imagine if todays strike fighters had fucking laser beams and missiles that could punch through basically anything most of the time?

Tanks would be out of the picture.

>>46135304
If lasers are a reality, then air force will become a no-force, because there's literally no way they can hide from instant death. Same with missiles.

>>46135325

Great, we can accept that with incredibly deadly weapons, that military arms simply can't functions as they do today. Infinity has some lovely stealth that'd probably make those planes somewhat survivable, also, probably some super space metal making they very durable.

>>46135304

>declaring full on war

That sounds like the Neo-Colonial Wars, where pan0 attempted full on genocide on Yu Jing using a Gulf-of-Tonkin level excuse to fire the first shot.

And *somehow* they got away with no real punishments nor losses when it all ended.

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>>46135397
I got the Spartan Scenics towers set.
Having way too much fun assembling it.

>>46134379
>forcing the bureaucrats who control your job to deal with 50 preventable hostage deaths in a secret mission
RIP that chick's career. Or RIP bugman if he was actually retarded enough to give them up.

>>46135397
Who would punish them? O12 has far more power than the UN ever did, but it still can't just smack around PanO.

>>46135366
Wow, that's some grade-A straw-grasping. Anyway, point stands, Infinity is fantasy with guns, not the best base to make a realistic WW2 or modern warfare game out of it.

>>46135485

0-12 magically stopped the war, and technically ALEPH can utterly cripple them. Sad to say no concrete punishment because CB said so.

>>46135513
PanO probably got politely reminded by O-12 that every other major power would be uniting to fuck them up if they managed to take down their greatest rival, since anyone could be next if they declared war on YJ. Trying to destroy Yu Jing through open warfare is pretty high on the list of 'most retarded things Pan0 has ever done'.

>>46135485

>RIP that chick's career

She being called insane for reasons.
Well, could be worse.

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>>46134134
>>46135512
There are vehicles, and 3rd party companies do produce them with tacit recognition from CB. Also, Ariadna does have mechanized deployed forces, and AD troops are said (in fluff at least) to be dropped from support craft or even from orbit. So there's the presence of more gear around. However, the other anon's point about the themes of the game are correct.

The battles in Infinity are skirmishes between unconventional special forces, typically in urban environments, not full-on military forces in pitched battle. The fluff goes on and on about the fact that the Combined "Army" force is merely a small scouting unit. Likewise, 300 points of Imperial Secret Service is pretty much just Asian Judge Dredd and his retinue.

The closest we get to an actual military force is Ariadna, who, particularly in the fluff, have to bring regiments or maybe even a full mechanized battalion to deal with said Judge's retinue.

>realistic WW2
Of course not. It's appropriate for near-future skirmishes between great powers that cannot get away with full-on wars because it would be a PR disaster.

>>46137452
Good lord I'd pound that ass into oblivion