GM wants to rape me

>>46057747
don't talk to us, talk to your DM

If it makes you feel uncomfortable, you and your DM should talk about it, and come to an agreement.

>>46057791
I did. I forgot to mention I flipped out on him when he mentioned the rapes if offhandedly. Then he called me a drama queen. Blah blah. Now I'm trying to think about it rationally.

>>46057747
If it makes you uncomfortable, I think you're perfectly within your rights to tell your GM to leave out the rape. It doesn't seem important to the story, anyway, since brainwashing should fuck your character up plenty by itself.

>>46057821
You should apologize for freaking out about it, then explain why you're having problems with the idea.

>>46057821
Tell him no, and keep telling him no. If he refuses to put your comfort over his desire to fap at the table, leave. There's no point in staying in a game with a GM who cares so little about his players.

A game is meant to be fun, and a roleplaying group carries with it an implicit bond of trust. Inflicting something like rape on a character without ensuring that it's okay ahead of time is just awful GMing, and you have every right to call out that bullshit.

What?

Who the fuck really does this?

You know, I'd consider leaving the game. Not because rape is that triggering for me, just because your DM sounds creepy. Either that or just have your character commit suicide every time they try it.

>>46057818
Yes that's the plan!
>>46057829
It's kind of topical since that villain is all about creating the perfect offspring, and my character's bloodline is special. I have this special power of body control etc. He wants me to bear his uberpowerful son or children army.
>>46057847
You're right, I will apologize.
>>46057852
He does care about his players he's actually a good DM usually but he doesn't listen super well.

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>>46057747
God damn it anon, if it makes you uncomfortable you have to stand your ground and tell him assertive, without wavering "Fuck no. I will have no part in this: either you will drop the raping part, or I leave."

No game is better than a bad game, remember! It will only get worse if you let your GM strongarm you into these kind of things: I mean come on! Have at least a shred of self-respect!!

>>46057791
this.
>>46057747
>>46057821
Game should be fun for all players and for DM. Raping your character is not necessary. If he is treating you bad and instead of making game fun for everyone, trying to put his fetishes into play, then you should leave a party.
Don't play with an assholes you lil' chick, you gonna get hurt.

>>46057847
>You should apologize for freaking out about it
The fuck

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>>46057747
Give him the finger and run for the hells.

>>46057951
Better yet have your current character commit suicide, and have your new character basically be a self insert for your own fetishes.

>a girl tries D&D
>the neckbeards immediately abuse her character

this is why we can't have nice things

>>46057868
The GM haven't done it yet, they were discussing it beforehand.

>>46057960
The GM was merely discussing with OP where he want to go with the story, not actually doing it.

To get flip out over it is uncalled for.

>>46057928
>cares about his players
>calls someone a drama queen when they get upset about him wanting to have their character raped

??????

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>thinly veiled elf rape wat do thread

>>46057928
If the raping part makes you uncomfortable here's what you do: you go to him and tell him "Rape is a subject that makes me really uncomfortable: I will not have fun if that happens to my character. I talked about it with a friend and he agrees that if something in a game makes me uncomfortable, that I should leave if it isn't removed."

Good luck.

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>>46058078
>shitposting when OP of the thread is genuinely asking for advice
I want /v/ to leave

>>46057928
>topical since that villain is all about creating the perfect offspring
Well you should have told us that upfront. It doesn't make sense for the villain NOT to rape your druid.

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>>46058079

This. A million times this.

Let the GM know that it makes you uncomfortable. If he's not willing to remove it, then that's not a GM you want to be playing with.

>>46058096
>asking for advice

'Talk to your DM like a sane individual' is the only advice that can be given and it doesn't even need to be given. It's obvious.

>>46058096
What does this have to do with /v/?

>>46058116
It makes perfect sense because OP is not comfortable with their character being raped.

Fuck the fuck off.

>>46058116

'Making sense' should always be a lower priority than making a player uncomfortable. Lots of awful GMs justify their bullshit as 'making sense' (which justifies nothing, since they're the people who lay out the logic of the game/world/setting to begin with.)

>>46058150
>It's obvious.
Nothing is obvious when you're dealing with autists, I'll have you know.

fa/tg/uys are not the brightest when it comes to interacting with other people. But that's obvious.

>>46058155

That's not how sense works.

>>46058158
>they're the people who lay out the logic of the game
Yeah it sounds like her GM specifically created a that villain with the rape in mind.

>>46057928
>>46058116
In this instance, if the player is uncomfortable with it, the GM can easily institute a reason as to why he didn't, like him casting spells and doing bloodwork to make sure there are no complications, or waiting until the brainwashing is complete so she doesn't try and escape with the child.

Perhaps it isn't the right time of the month so the villain knows trying would be a waste of time. Perhaps the villain is away and has instructed his followers to not lay a hand on her aside from the brainwashing in order to keep her as a sufficient vessel.

There are plenty of ways to justify it without having a rape occur.

>>46058195
If pedophilia makes you uncomfortable which it should, then you wouldn't want to have it in your game.

But it wouldn't make sense for people not to be pedophiles, since there are people like that irl.

Would you like to hear this kind of excuse from your GM?

>>46058153
they were the pre-/pol/ post-/b/ boogeyman

>>46058012
I wish this was funny. I really do.

>>46058079
Pretty much this. Players and GMs gotta be able to talk or you'll just have forced laughter all around.

And I can only imagine this thread going down the toilet.

>>46057747
Honestly, if you're going to disrupt the game by not taking part for several weeks, it's your duty to cooperate with the GM as best as you can and help him make up for your absence.

As such, you should allow him to do whatever he pleases with your character and even provide input of your own. This is one of those situations where it will be beneficial to roleplay the rape in advance, so that you have a better understanding of what will have happened to your character by the time you return.

>>46058153
everything's /v/'s fault nowadays apparently.

>>46058230

Exactly, but that doesn't count for shit.

The game isn't about the GM & his pet villains, it's about the players & their journeys.

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>>46058268
spotted the fucktard GM..

>>46058268
>roleplay the rape in advance
w-what? how would that even work?

>>46057928
So, the Villain has you brainwashed and is waiting for some particularly auspicious moment to "do the deed" for maximum power or what ever, that handily doesn't take place until after you return and can be rescued.
It absolutely doesn't need to happen, even if it "fits the theme"

Also, don't apologize for freaking out. Your reaction was exactly how you felt, and that's more than valid. If anything it should show your DM how bad of an idea it is.

>>46058153
basically this >>46058258
/v/ is /b/2.0
/pol/ is /b/3.0

>>46058249
There is also the possibility that even this villain doesn't like rape. Sometimes even the bad guys have standards. We don't know anything about him, OP should tell us more.

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>>46058268

This is the worst fucking advice I've ever heard.

"My GM is doing a thing that makes me uncomfortable."

"WELL THEN WHY NOT JUST GO ALONG WITH IT, THEN TRAP YOURSELF ALONE WITH HIM"

Leave the game you pussy
Your character isn't you, if the context of your character being raped makes sense don't be a bitch about it.
Why is crying about character rape seen as valid but not literally anything else on /tg/?

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>>46058230
>>46058268

>>46058347
>Why is crying about character rape seen as valid but not literally anything else on /tg/?
What the fuck are you talking about?

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>BBEG has literal rape dungeons he plans to send a PC
Jesus how is this not just a red flag with buzzers to leave instantly?

>>46058249
>>46058313
Thank you both for your awesome ideas. Those are actually great compromises because it lets the villain try his evil plan and my character doesn't have to be completely traumatized.

I'm texting my GM right now.

>>46058268

Can't tell if serious

>>46058339
Indeed... /tg/ is going to shit

>>46058392
Summer comes early.

>>46058339
I bet it would have gone better if they had phrased it as 'my DM is trying to make me enter their rape-dungeon magical realm'

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>>46058254

Whether or not I'd like to hear it is irrelevant. The DM's statement is true- In a realistic setting, there are pedophiles, and it is sensible to assume that pedophiles exist in a setting that aims for a realistic depiction of humans(or otherwise) from a psychological/physiological perspective.


Now, if that makes me uncomfortable(Which it doesn't, because I'm not a hypersensitive child that needs his depictions of evil watered down) I would simply tell the DM that while yes, it does make sense, I'd like it if he found an alternative.


Your feelings don't effect basic reason, and when it comes to storytelling, bad people can and should exist. It's fine if that makes you uncomfortable, but DO NOT sit there and say it's fucking sensible for characterization to alter in order to fit your comfort.


Don't get me wrong- I think any good DM should be able to respect people's boundaries, emotionally and mentally. Even if it's something retarded like "Oranges make me upset. "

But I'm not going to sit and tell you that you're being reasonable because you want to arbitrarily remove one moral atrocity from a game/setting/story that is BUILT upon moral atrocities(As any mature depiction of a world as whole must, inevitably, be ).

>>46058310
ERP

>>46057747

> I'm afraid it would taint my character somehow, or lead to awkward moments.


How would it taint your character?

Like, let's move past the whole part where this is really awkward to talk about.

And move towards how you could use this to enhance your character.

All you have to do is firmly set boundaries about magical realm and that kind of thing, and BOOM, you get a trauma that you can use to amp up your character game.

Not exactly the greatest thing to do. But it's one of those things that's doable.

Though, really, the way your GM seemingly went on about it, and the way you freaked out, has already created an awkward moment.

>>46057747
Rape your DM then whisper in his ear

"Do you still want to rape my character in the game?"

That will make him reconsider

>GM totally wants to rape me gais
>btw I'm a grill
Why do you guys even believe these stories. /tg/ will use any chance they get to fucking white knight.

>>46058310
By meeting with the GM or communicating with them by email or text. Whatever medium they choose to us, they can proceed to describe how each character acts in the process of the rape and maybe even roll for certain things if they feel like it. It can be enjoyable, OP just needs to man up and get into it.

>>46058424

It's completely reasonable to request to change something that makes someone uncomfortable. Grow up.

>>46058424
Nice false equivalency. In this case it is the obvious example of the pc playing a child, and the GM is having the villain molest his/her character. Please don't come back.

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>>46058424
I don't mean to alarm you but your lenghty post only makes me feel as though you're trying to defend your magical realm. And it's not working particularly well.

Mainly because there's a fuckhuge difference between oranges and... I don't know, rape?

>>46057747

If you're uncomfortable with it personally, tell your DM that and don't allow it. If you're just worried it will make things weird amongst the party ICly, I wouldn't worry about that too much.

If you're worried it will make other people at the table uncomfortable OOCly, then bring that up with your DM. There's sort of a way to have your cake and eat it too, there; have it happen but don't ever explicitly say it, just sort of vaguely imply it, and have your character refuse to talk about it.

>>46058426

>Rape

>Erotic

jesus christ

>>46058424
Unless the entire campaign hinges on the BBEG being a pedophile and collecting evidence on this fact, it's the sort of thing that can be ignored, glossed over, or just not brought up entirely.

You don't need to explicitly have some villain railing lolis in-game in order to have pedophiles exist. The players know pedophiles exist, they'll assume they also exist in this world.

>>46058367
/tg/ gets up in arms defending some cunt crying about here character being ( reasonably ) raped.
But if you were to cry on here about anything else happening to your character you would just be called That Guy

>But the magical gem of cast wish is in my characters backstory! You're literally raping my character by saying I can't have that!
or
>Why do I die because I ran alone into the big bad evil guy! Shitty GM you shouldn't kill me because I'm retarded!
Would be justly ridiculed. But OP is a dumb player okay with their character getting got by the villain and gets upset when a villain does evil things like a bitch and the sjw brigade white knights to her defense. It's bullshit.
If she doesn't what villain doing villainous things to her character, maybe she should just decline the idea of her getting kidnapped by the villain. Otherwise she shouldn't be complaining about what happens to her character after she literally places her character in the villains hands.

>>46058463
>>46058478

'Wah wah my feelings hurt I don't understand why that doesn't make the universe wrong and me right'

Get over yourselves. It's OK to be irrational. That still doesn't make it rational.

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>>46058488
Hey m8, it ain't me, it's the gm.

>>46058488
Some women are into forceful sex and mistake their fetish with rape fetish. It exists.

But it's not a reason to force it on players.

>>46058457
wait did OP say they're female? I assume they're a fat bastard until we get photographed proof

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Is the rape necessary for the brainwashing? By which means does the brainwahsing work? Magic? Drugs? I don't see why the rape part would be important, this isn't some kind of rape->ahegao mind-break doujin.

>>46058496
>waaah muh feelings make me overlook the fact that I made a logical fallacy!

Please die scum of the human race.

>>46058518
the BBEG wants to have babies with her

>>46058496

Again, grow up.

>>46058494
Are you kidding? /tg/ almost always jumps on the side of OP when they complain about the DMs magical realm.

I've seen plenty of threads advising the OP to talk to the DM or drop the game when they ask if they should go along with hearing vivid descriptions of NPCs getting molested by tentacles or whatever.

>>46058518
Well, it is in the GMs chinese pornography comics so yes?

>>46058503

Yeah, of course.

Some people are into that, but there's a specific name for it:

>Consensual Non-Consent.

Not >Rape.

>>46058496
Then you basically agree with the premise that if something that doesn't need being brought up and it makes somebody uncomfortable and/or isn't appropriate (like having a lurid description of entrails being brought out and gushing arterial blood if you GM for children), then the GM shouldn't bring it up?

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>/tg/ in general bitches about introducing magical realms into games
>gm does so
>people crawl out of the woodworks to defend his right to do so
Stay classy /tg/

>>46058538
Rape isn't inherently magical realm.

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>>46058494
Nice strawman. So because I can't make it for a couple of sessions it's fine for my GM to kill off my character/have him raped?

Man, am I glad I am not in your group.

>>46058496

>Not wanting to be forced to roleplay a traumatic sexual scenario with a random dude

>Irrational

I don't think you have a good grasp on what counts as rational.

>>46058489

That's kind of what my point was. There's alternatives that exist, and that's fine. The plot need not hinge on pedophiles existing.

My issue wasn't with the idea of a person asking a DM not to include something, my issue was with some enlightened individual spouting off about how if somebody feels uncomfortable, that's reason enough for a logical action not to be taken.


Which is bullshit. If a villain would rape a character, and that character's player doesn't want to be raped, rather than sacrificing a developmental element of the villain's characterization, create a situation in which the villain can't rape the person, for some reason or another.


But don't just go "lolnothappening" and provide zero explanation. That's how you run in to character inconsistencies. Ones that detract from the storytelling experience.

>>46058494
Being brainwashed is pretty villainous. Doesn't need rape.

>>46058573
No, but if it is happening to the PC it more than fucking likely is.

>>46058532
Ah, sorry, didn't see this. 90% chance /tg/ is falling for obvious bait

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>>46058496

>>46057747 (OP)
If your uncomfortable with your character getting raped you could just make it so your character gets cloned or something perhaps if you gave your DM an alternative he'd be more willing to listen.

>>46058573
>The DM wants to hypnotize you, rape you, and have you become pregnant

This is my Fetish and even I'll admit it'd be Magical Realm to do

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>>46058584
>It'swhatmycharacterwoulddo

the post

I thought /tg/ was better than that

>>46058532
More than fucking likely it wouldn't surprise me if the DM made this plot point after looking at the character sheet of the player.

>>46058593
Or if the rape is based on a plot hook as in this case.

>>46058574
>So because I can't make it for a couple of sessions it's fine for my GM to kill off my character/have him raped?
It's fine for that to happen when you literally accept your DM having you vulnerable to the villians whims by having your character kidnapped by the villian.
If you don't like that idea and the consequences it brings, don't let that happen. Just say you decided to fuck off in a well defended good aligned city for a little while.
>>46058593
No. OP already said her character is super special snowflake bloodline, wanting to breed it to create supersoliders is a legitimate plot thread that has nothing to do with sexual fetishes.

Maybe OPs character shouldn't have been such a snowflake if she didn't want the character to get raped for them magical bloodline hax.

>>46058584
Who here was advocating providing no explanation? It really doesn't require much thinking to provide a reason

>The villain is going to rape your character after taking them prisoner
>Instead, they get called away from the prison for some more important task, intent on raping the prisoner when they return, giving the party a chance for resuce/that character a chance for escape.

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>>46058626
>implying /tg/ is better than this

We are the Imperium anon, the last bastion of humanity slowly decaying away.

>>46058647
Read the post just above you.

>>46058532
And the GM is at a complete liberty to change this. Like, for example, brainwashing her into going back to elven lands to convince elven maiden into captivity because he doesn't believe she's worthy to take his seed or whatever if we really have to stay into the creep zone.

>>46058664
>maybe OPs character shouldn't have been such a snowflake if she didn't want the character to get raped
>it's her fault
>she's asking for it
>look at her flaunting her bloodlines

>literally victim blaming

>>46058550

Yeah, entirely. I just don't agree with the idea of removing a key aspect of characterization. I'd argue that if you're DMing for children, you made a fool's mistake in making a character who's going to get excessively violent/gory about things, or somehow relies on it to properly express who they are.


My point is that simply placing a censor bar over a given topic is retarded, when you're better off replacing the topic entirely, or creating a situation in which the topic is avoided. But to simply say "My geneticist rape-druid villain won't rape your elf even though she's been kidnapped because your feelings wont' allow for it. " is retarded. Just have somebody else capture her. Have her get captured by henchmen, and make the first priority on the player's return whacking those henchmen before she can be taken to the villain. But nullifying an action without a reasonable explanation to make up for it is just bad play.

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>>46058664
>It's fine for that to happen when you literally accept your DM having you vulnerable to the villians whims by having your character kidnapped by the villian.
No it isn't. And if you think that it's better for your game to make your players uncomfortable and unfun to sit at your table, that's on you.

I can just be glad that I am not playing with scum like you.

>>46058683
>15 seconds apart
So sorry, buddy.

>>46058689
Why not let his minions rape her then? If he's able to go so far I don't see why he would throw the goods away.

>>46057747
tell him where he can stick his magical realm bullshit

>>46057747
Say character retired for some reason and left/died so your druid doesn't get raped.

Then re-roll a male character.

>>46058664
>Maybe OPs character shouldn't have been such a snowflake if she didn't want the character to get raped for them magical bloodline hax.

Or the fucking dm could have just made it that he needs her fucking blood to perform a magical ritual in order to infuse his henchmen with supersolider strength. It's fucking clear it's a god damn magical realm and your retarded ass hat brain can't see that.

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Why is this even in a nonERP game in the first place? Sounds like the greasy machinations of someone who read too many Korean love novels, I would know.

>>46058675

The dude who said "It's perfect sense for the story to have your outside feelings effect the behavior of another person's character. "

>>46058570
I don't want to defend the DM, I just want to tell the faggots in this thread to fuck off with their moral hysteria.

These goony goons are probably the type of players irl who want to unironically use X-cards.

>>46058374
>and my character doesn't have to be completely traumatized
Lots of rape victims get by without being too traumatized. Things are worse for them because everyone talks like it's the worst thing to ever happen and that their lives are basically over.

Is the mindfuck and brainwashing somehow less bad and traumatizing for you than the run of the mill rape? Serious answers please.

>>46058700
4chan is so up in arms about SJWs that as a whole, people take the opposite stance at whatever they say. If you say "victim blaming", because it's a phrase used by SJWs, they'll be completely fucking okay with saying it's the victim's fault.

>>46058739
Why would he? Do you enjoy breaking your tools for foolish reasons?

>>46058731
>implying I was blaming you for not reading my post

>>46058704
And that's on the player and DM to work together and find alternatives. People in this thread have suggested many alternatives.

The player saying they're not comfortable with it and the DM going, 'Well, sorry, it's what the villain would do, and there's no way to stop him' when he is omnipotent in this world is bad on his part.

He can have the prison attacked by a dragon if he wanted, have the villain go out to fight it, win, and get too injured to rape her, allowing time for escape.

What is difficult about this?

>>46058723
>No it isn't.
Yes it is.
Do you complain when you do something retarded and your DM gives you consequences for doing something stupid?

Same fucking thing. OPs character gets caught by villain, shit happens.
Maybe she shouldn't have volunteered to have been caught by the villain then.

The white knights are the ones who sound unrealistic.
>Villain does villainous. Oh, except rape. He just doesn't for some reason even though it involves one of his goals and reason he's a villain.

>>46058765
That doesn't mean to skip over all story explanation. That just means the feelings of the players at the table is more important than the lives of fictional characters.

>>46058664

That's silly. The enjoyment of the players should always take priority when you're DMing. If they aren't happy, you're not doing your job right.

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>>46058785
>Is the mindfuck and brainwashing somehow less bad and traumatizing for you than the run of the mill rape

Simple answer. They are equally both fucking shit.

>>46058762
>Or the fucking dm could have just made it that he needs her fucking blood to perform a magical ritual in order to infuse his henchmen with supersolider strength
If you could do that it wouldn't be a super special snowflake bloodline though.

Honestly I would have gone for cloning her, but rape is just as viable for a villain to be doing.

>>46058787
>Do you enjoy breaking your tools for foolish reasons?
If I don't need it anymore I give it to someone else that might want it.

>>46058374
OP here if anyone is still interested. I apologized to my GM by text and tried to reach a compromise, like the players save me before the rape.

My GM texted me back that if I'm not okay with my character being abused she still has to be inseminated, and it needs that to happen for plot purposes but "doesn't want to say more".

I'm not sure what insemination without abuse means, and I asked him to clarify but he just responded "SIGH".

So... Things might be better now? Not sure what to think.

>>46058824

Then they should've said that instead of replying to a post specifically addressing sensible character behavior with "It's sensible for your character not to act that way if my feelings say so. "

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>>46058806
>Do you complain when you do something retarded and your DM gives you consequences for doing something stupid?
But she didn't do anything stupid: she's only not able to make it to a couple of sessions.

>Maybe she shouldn't have volunteered to have been caught by the villain then.
She hasn't: the GM proposed it.

For the love of humanity, stop dragging this board down with your idiocy.

>>46058845
>super special snowflake bloodline

It's called a fucking bloodline for a reason anon.

>>46058832
Yet the part everyone here is complaining about is the non-consensual pee pee in vagoo, not the complete destruction of a living beings mind to make them a retarded fuckpuppet. Priorities.

>>46058806
Or, look at any of the alternative suggestions for why the Villain wouldn't rape her right away.

Being brainwashed is already a consequence. It's not as though they're getting away scott-free.

>>46058774
Normal people can feel uncomfortable about rape, if the gm is going to add these subjects, let the players know a head of time or just think, "gee does this seem weird to have rape dungeons?" And plan accordingly to let it get skipped over if players are t feeling it, like a rational person would.

>>46058774
Stop building strawmen. It started by a fucking discussion, why the fuck do you bring the X card in that? Don't you have any argument besides charging at windmills?

It's not a fucking moral hysteria, it's somebody being uninterested and uncomfortable at something happening in game, that's it.

>>46058863
Confront him in front of the group about it: see wht the others think about this idea and see to it that they agree with you beforehand to stop the GMs magical realm before it starts.

Better to cut it at the bud before it has a chance to grow.

>>46058863
Jesus fuck, did he literally say it like that? That's hella creepy.

>>46058870
>But she didn't do anything stupid
Well, she made a female character, didn't she?

>>46058863
He may place some semen into you by magical means, without your character ever noticing? Sounds really unerotic.

Can you give us some informations about your BBEG, that could help.

>>46058864
>It's sensible for your character not to act that way if my feelings say so.

Except the gameworld is the fucking contraption of the DM, so it doesn't fucking matter in the first place what the "character" (read: a fictional character), since he can change it at any time.

>>46058870
>But she didn't do anything stupid: she's only not able to make it to a couple of sessions.
Reread the thread.
She volunteered to have her character to be kidnapped.
>She hasn't: the GM proposed it.
Look up the definition of "proposal". The GM asked, she accepted.
White knight harder, fag.
>>46058863
Tell that fag to come up with magical cloning instead and leave his impregnation fetish out of the game.

>>46058862
>not needing tools
fuccboi

>>46058863
Just leave.
>he just responded "SIGH".
Just fucking leave.

>>46058863

It sounds like he's planned this out for a little bit now, and he's trying to still make a pregnancy thing work he's got figured out, but doesn't want to actually spoil the story.


I'd say just tell him you'd really need to know the specifics of what's happening, even if it is spoiler-y, to decide on what you're cool with. I'd also recommend suggesting some alternatives to him- If you create a dialogue about what direction to take the story, maybe things will hammer out more smoothly, because you'll have an active voice in what direction you'd like to see things go with your character.

>>46058864
>'But it's what my character would do!'

Is not a viable excuse. It doesn't work when the party rogue tries to justify stealing from them, and it works even less here.

These are real people sitting around a table with you. They're more important than whatever happens to a fictional character.

If it's that outlandish to you to have someone act out of character because of feelings, then try and find a reason for them to do so.

>>46058916
I'd almost say fair enough but I would hope that the stereotype isn' actually t the norm in the gaming community, and then probably be disappointed deeply.

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>>46057747
>but I'm afraid it would taint my character somehow
Not really, sex doesn't taint a character and rape is just forced sex. Basically a kind of torture.
I'd say if anything brainwashing would "taint" the character more because the goal is to change the mind and spirit of said person.

>Am I overreacting
Not really, if the GM wants to pull story mode events on a character, then the player of said character needs to be okay with it since its not running on rules, just what the GM says.

You are fully within your rights to not allow this if you don't want to

>What do you think
I think your GM is trying to put in either a fetish or a lazy story plot point to crank up the drama and EEEEVILness of said villain.

If you don't want your character to be raped and he's doing it behind the scenes story mode then you can just say no.

>>46058845
>what are sorcerers

>>46058924
>I'm going away for a few weeks and my GM proposed that my character (druid elf, party healer) get kidnapped by the villain-du-jour. I said yes.
I read that he proposed it and she said that it is okay if she gets kidnapped. Then the GM changed it around and says that she should be raped.
Seriously, go back to school...

>>46058916
I guess the stupid part was believing that not all men think with their dicks first?

>>46058923
>Arbitrarily changing established characters or rules
Then you complain about railroading

>>46058950
>"But it's what my character would do!"
>I throw your character off a cliff because thats what my character would do if someone he trusted had betrayed him.

>>46058424
1) it's still a game not the real world
2) from the sound of it the only reason op is in this situation is because he agreed to be captured because he wouldn't be able to attend for a few weeks. Its perfectly reasonable for him not to want / and demand not to experience any life changing traumas

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>>46058863
>I'm not sure what insemination without abuse means, and I asked him to clarify but he just responded "SIGH".
Leave. Leave. Leave. Leave. Leave. Leave. Leave. Leave. Leave. Leave. Leave. Leave. Leave. Leave. Leave. Leave. Leave. Leave. Leave.

>>46058970
>I read that he proposed it and she said that it is okay if she gets kidnapped.
Getting kidnapped and thus having your life under the control under the campaigns villain has consequences, of which rape is possibly one of the consequences. By allowing her character to be kidnapped, she surrendered control of her character to the villain.
This is not a hard concept to grasp.
>what are sorcerers
Sorcerers don't necessarily have special snowflake bloodlines that can make supersoldiers.

>>46058923

He can only change it to the extent that other people are unfamiliar with the dude's actions.


For example- If Druid man raped a bunch of non-player characters before, and it wasn't an issue because no one's character had been raped, it would be unrealistic to presume that the Druid simply wouldn't do his best to sow his darwinistic seed given the opportunity.


So instead of destroying the character, simply deny the opportunity.


You're completely right- The gameworld is a contraption of the DM. If they're a good DM, it's a very nicely put together contraption that has a lot of moving parts, and they all work together in such a way that it immerses you in to the game.


So please have some goddamn respect for it, and don't assume changing a character's decisions, ideologies, or fundamental characteristics is easy when they've been implanted in to a breathing setting with consequences and history.

>>46058874
We are talking about the rape because that is the most blatant sexual thing in the post, and the OP seemed to have partially separated the two. Now that you pointed it out.... yeah it's fucking magical realm.

The rape part is just more offensive part of it. I have no problem if rape is in the game, but fucking keep that shit away from the PCs. the mind rape part would basically be tossed with the That GM:

>Because you're going away for a game, I'll make your character unplayable!

which is slightly better than Magical Realm GM.

>>46058787
>>46058930
>Why would he? Do you enjoy breaking your tools for foolish reasons?
That's a very poor attempt at understanding a villainous mindset.

A warlord will reward his followers, not even because he wants to ensure their loyalty, but because they're his boys and he looks after them. You do nice shit for your dog because you like him, not because you need to keep him on side or he'll bite you.

>>46058845
>super special snowflake bloodline
I've actually seen these put to good use
If they don't give the PC itself any real boons, but they make themselves a target for BBEG dejour, or make certain forms of magic or attack incredibly effective on them.

>>46059027
>the lolbarry
What godforsaken place is that?

>>46058950

I'd argue that the DM is the only individual who can make that claim. Because he controls literally the entire world, so he can, unlike the players, shift the entire setting as he pleases to meet the demands of what his characters would reasonably do.


In short, it's not an excuse, it's a standard. And if you can't meet that standard as a DM WITHOUT making your players grossly uncomfortable, you're a shitty DM.

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>>46058863
Just fucking leave, odds are he's from here and there's no arguing with these levels of autism
>*SIGH*
Why haven't you left yet?

>>46059015
Have you never heard that excuse before? It's only useful when you do something objectionable.

"It's what my character would do!" doesn't need to be said when the paladin protects the innocent and smites undead.

"It's what my character would do!" becomes a problem when you start dicking over somebody else at the table, showing clearly that if that is what your character would do, then they shouldn't be a member of the group.

>>46058863
>inseminated
if he actually used that word : run

>>46058863
Just stop being a pussy and go with it, you faggot.

Good god, players nowadays are such weaklings, can't take anything bad happening to them.

>>46058884
Look at the beginning of the thread. See how many posts are going on about "uncomfortable" and phrasing their posts like white knight drivel.

Nobody questions the two obvious things:
1. The fact that "hurf durf you get captured because reasons" DM fiat is fucking retarded.
2. The OP story is textbook bait that has been posted on /tg/ a thousand times.

>>46058863
Tell him it's a deal breaker.
I'm a DM of over 20 years, and there is NO plot line that can't be adapted, especially when it comes to things your players aren't comfortable with.
Find a new game, because this one isn't worth it.

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>>46058863
>she still has to be inseminated,
>it needs that to happen for plot purposes >"doesn't want to say more"

>>46059090
>That GM
JESUS OP FLEE

>>46059037
>Sorcerers don't necessarily have special snowflake bloodlines that can make supersoldiers.
They can, if the GM wills it.

Face it, you are clutching at straws: the GM has so many alternatives that do not include rape and yet he is arguing so much about it instead of looking for a different, better way to not make the game shitty for one of his players.

I'm not going to list them all again, but cloning, blood letting, kill her as a sacrifice or something could be an alternative: in the thread we've discussed it extensively.

The GM is only looking for an excuse to push his magical realm into the game and that is not OK.

>>46058863
>these replies
Maximum overtumblr engaged.

>>46059023

1) Not really relevant to what's being discussed.
2) Also has nothing to do with whether or not what that guy said constitutes "sense."

I never argued that the DM shouldn't change his plans. I only argued that it's dumb to call it sense when it's inherently predisposed on people finding importance in the irrational feelings of others.

Which, again, don't get me wrong, is something I support. A person 100% should consider the feelings of those around them over a fucking game's lore. But it still doesn't mean blind removal of a concept is sensible.

>>46058917
He's a elf supremacist, worried that the ancient superior bloodlines are weakening. He says elves were created perfect by the gods and then everything went to shit later with the other races and modern "mutt elves" (half-humans I guess).

He despises my character and calls her a race-traitor, although he's tried to recruit her twice.

Um what else? He also this whole thing about natural order and unnatural chaos, he says that our orc party leader is an agent of chaos. It all goes back to Lawful Gods and Chaotic Gods I think. To be honest some of the world building escapes me. But basically he wants to restore the old way of things before the Chaotic Gods perverted everything.

Does that help at all? I feel like I'm being really unclear.

This thread is why women shouldn't be allowed at the table.
Dumb cunts make a female character than cry when the biggest obvious difference between sexes is used as a plot device.
See this shit? This is exactly why women weren't allowed to be warriors in real life. All this white knighting.

>>46059087
>if that is what your character would do, then they shouldn't be a member of the group.
Agreed, I had someone continuously do this in my RP group, pissed everyone off, and he would get really angry anytime something bad happened to his character.
He's gone now

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>>46058958
>>46058971
Yeah.

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>>46058863
>she still has to be inseminated

>>46058981
Actually I don't, so shut up.

>>46059045
>shithappens

Honestly, I would agree with you, but it's fucking clear that the DM doesn't understand that. Thus, he can't properly handle that situation, and needs to have the R rating of his game fucking smacked away form him.

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Who gives a shit, why is this even being discussed. Even the thread title resembles clickbait. Fuck off.

>>46059164
Here's your (You).

>>46057747
This is when you casually bring up the fact that your character has dentata, it reacts subconsciously whenever you are having non-consensual sex, going even beyond magical compulsion. You bite off the BBEG's dick.

>>46059162
Your BBEG sounds based, side with him and destroy those lesser races with your aryan soldiers.

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>>46059162
>despises your character
>tried to recruit her twice anyway
It's worse than we thought, he's a shitty gm too.

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>>46059164
>promoting magical realm under the guise of shouting "SJWuasss!"

>>46059180
>Who gives a shit, why is this even being discussed
Because /tg/ is full of retards from ribbit, tumblr and SA thanks to 1d4chan shilling offsite, and not enough people tell the cancerous newfags to go fuck off.

>>46059164
tell me how comfortable you'dd be when your characters dick gets shopped of and an iron rod gets shoved up his asshole

>>46059224
Go jack off about the Hasbro ebin raid somewhere else, retard.

>>46059159
Not really anything "tumblr" about it, this is just lazy storytelling and a DM assuming their players will go along with some odd possibly disastrous out of game shenanigans

>>46059164
Not really dude, it sounds like DM wants to get OPs character preggers, which could have some serious in game effects on stats and performance, all without rolls or any chance to affect the outcome.

>>46059220
I'll say it again.
Rape isn't inherently magical realm.
Wanting to use a special snowflake to create magical bloodline soldiers isn't sexual but may require sex to fulfill.

>>46059170
That would be the player's actions pissing people off, rather than the character. Equally valid reason to remove someone.

If somebody is an otherwise good player, and they express interest in a particular specific bad thing not happening to their character, then it's in the DMs best interest to talk to them about it and work with them.

>>46059162
does he post on a certain containment board by any chance ?

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>>46058863
FUCKING RAILROADING SHITHEAD

LEAVE LEAVE LEAVE

Actually, get inseminated anyways, and then get an abortion.

>>46059254
>Rape
>Mind-control
>Impregnation

Yes, it is.

>>46059257
Pffffhahaha.

>>46059229
My character would be fucked up, and I would role play him being fucked up.

Do you bitch and whine about your character being tortured by the enemies he makes too, you fucking carebear?

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>>46059258
I mean it's an awful idea, but it would crash the GMs fetish train real quick.

>>46059258
>magical abortion
I wonder if that's already come up in D&D. Probably right?

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>>46059254

>>46058863
Yep he's an autistic creep no Mather your real gender.

Now here's my idea.
Have your PC die in a way you like.
Reroll a male chaotic good grappling Bardbarian who's a homosexual and wants the BBEGs ass.

>>46059295
ITG Force to the rescue.

>>46059045
>wouldn't do his best to sow his darwinistic seed given the opportunity
I've been running a low fantasy setting for a few months, and one character continously fucks as many women as he can before, after, and sometimes during any given quest, and asks me to roll for knocking up the NPCs

So I do, and sometimes its successful, but I don't tell him. I'm planning a timeskip when he's beset by a literal horde of his own spawn that he abandoned.

>>46059254
doesn't mean he has to rape her being the point , especially if the player is uncomfortable with it
he could just as easily try to win her over to his point of view for a couple of months
cause he's gonna have one hell of a hard time explaining the chosen one that he's a rape baby

>>46059176

I dunno. We're hearing his responses as explained paraphrased through an internet forum after interpreting the emotional response of a blankly stated text message.


I'm not saying this dude CAN'T be a socially inept weirdo with no respect for people's feelings, but I am saying there's a possibility he's just a frustrated GM who made a convoluted plot, perhaps built on a few faulty assumptions due to whatever, and he's trying to work things out in a way that doesn't make his whole plotthread come crashing down.


If this dude is some kind of racial maniac pureblood nutjob, I can see exactly why a pregnancy would be some key part of the story, and would create a lot of emotional tension whilst also providing an opportunity for further examination of moral elements regarding the different factions of the game.


But this is all assuming he's a good DM and not just magical realming the shit out of this poor girl. I'm not saying he's in the right, I'm saying we're wrong for simply assuming he's an awful human being just because, as far as we can tell, he's poorly articulating his desires/plans for the direction of the story.

>>46059254
What if the GM gets off to the idea of an army of super elves?

>>46059341
In general, yes, maybe.

>SIGH
In that case, it's pretty clear he's a giant fucking autist baby.

>>46059229
>rape = fatal levels of mutilation
Ok tumblr.

>>46059325
>autistic creep
Yep, definitely tumblr.

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>>46059370
We just entered my magical realm.

OP should betray the party, that would make for a hell of a session.

>>46058863
RAPE YOUR GM!

Also, this is what you get for gms who have to "TELL MUH SPESHUL STORY"

Enjoy your D&D and WOD faggots

>>46059255
>they express interest in a particular specific bad thing not happening to their character
I usually play with some thick skinned RPers, but I have some newbies in the group and they don't seem to bothered by things out of character.

They were pretty outraged in character by a child slave ring (transporting the children to be raised as expendable shock troops) but totally chill out of character.

>>46059306
Probably, but the gm won't allow it probably. The character would probably need to find an alchemical, or physical way... (Literally last fucking resort. It's fucking horrible)

>>46059336
That is fucking hilarious.

Main villain of my story is a prince, killed six brothers to reach inheritance of the Crown, and it turns out he's the only one of them who's a secret bastard, along with half of the orphans in the capital city.


Villain worked so goddamn hard to reach the position where he can get the crown, and when the evidence comes in for it, it's going to turn out that his claim is no more valid than that kid with a similar jawline selling clams by the docks.

>>46059341
Honestly yes we should give him the benefit of the doubt, but
>SIGH
Showed us he's what we feared he is.

>>46059370
What if I get off on the idea of a mixed gender army of an egalitarian kingdom all wearing full covering and practical armor?

With some minor acknowledgements of gender dimorphism like men mostly being in the front of the formations and having archers and cavalry being primarily female?

>>46058602
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Have your PC cover herself in anthrax spores and then fuck the BBEG in the rape dungeon. Owned scrub!

>>46059460
But then you would be wrong because archery requires arm muscle strength and stamina of which females statistically have less of than males.

>>46059418
And that's your group. And that's fine.

What works for your group doesn't necessarily work for every group.

>>46059418
I agree with >>46059493

>>46059435
Ha, nice, but then it becomes a meritocracy when everyone has equal claim. It still sounds like hes in a good position

the PC in my campaign is a minor noble with really poor family relations right now.
He's either going to have to fight his offspring or turn them into an army.

Of course some NPCs I give higher rolls to because they are drinking their moon tea.

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>>46058496

OP here.
>>46058863
Okay I just got off the phone with the DM.

I told him I don't feel comfortable with the sex stuff at all and he acknowledged that.

He was very annoyed at having to reveal his whole grand plan. He told me he was going to have my character impregnated down the line anyway, and it was necessary to the campaign. He wouldn't say more. We more or less agreed on having my character magically inseminated and brainwashed but not physically raped.

So, hurray! I feel awkward about all this but I'm not triggered or anything. And I'm glad we got past the rape issue. I'm not sure where he's going with all of this but I don't think it's about him getting off.

Thank you all!

>>46059460
I'd allow it on the condition you keep it under the table.

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>>46058390
>>46058310
>>46058339
>>46058390
>>46058392

I can't believe you people can't recognize joke bait. Yes, baiting is still shitposting even when it is done for a joke, but you should all just either report/hide it if it isnt funny to you or just laugh at it and move on. This whole post was instantly made clear as a joke he said you should roleplay the rape. Half the reason /tg/ is going to shit (which is a myth, it has been shit since day one like the rest of 4chan, don't pretend this website is anything other than us whiling away the hours until our deaths) is that so many people can't understand a joke even when it isn't in the form of bait like this.

>>46059490
Crossbows, with levers, or using your legs to set the bolt due to female bodies having decent lower body strength.
Also stamina isn't a problem for females either, its mostly upper body strength where males have the biggest advantage.

>>46059587
>whiling away the hours until our deaths
That arguably describes the totality of human occupations sweetie.

>>46059563
>forced pregnancy and brainwashing

your GM does not seem like a cool guy

>>46059535

Yeah, the party's working for a fantasy-communist that wants to destroy anything resembling a classist power structure. The King holds ALL of the power, so the "Victory conditions" are getting enough proof together to challenge his claim, and then either beating him in a duel, convincing the nobility to try and out him, or(as their boss wants), facilitate a peasant uprising to have the entire system upended.


The real twist on it is that the Villain is actually a really good leader and all of the peasants are pretty happy under his rule, so it then becomes a matter of contrasting the necessity for an ethical leader over a good one, or an ethical society that can't protect and provide for its people over an unethical one that can.

>>46059460
Then you're in luck, because you're generally well catered for.

>>46059563
>He told me he was going to have my character impregnated down the line anyway, and it was necessary to the campaign.
>not about him getting off.
im-fucking-plying

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>>46059563
>>46059563
That really solves nothing, it still feeds his fetishes, now with just "MAGIC" making it happen, Jesus just leave the game, he's using you to get off.

>>46059577
Thank you Mr. DM, would it also be allowed to say that the army acknowledges that its troops will be fucking so its worth it to supply said army with contraceptives in supply trains?

It would certainly help keep morale up, and prevent some problems with the locals if said army had to occupy a town.

>>46059563
If that's what you're comfortable with, then I wish you the best and hope you have a great game!
Just don't let him walk all over you because it fits his campaign - You're just as much of an important part to it, and have a say in the subjects that it does, or doesn't focus on.

>>46059563
Well, I'm glad you managed to resolve it in a way you and him are satisfied with.

Best of luck.

>>46059563
Bad news is that your GM has an impregnation fetish
good news is that you know about it now. Or... well, it can both be bad news.

Congratz?

>>46059627
>>Yeah, the party's working for a fantasy-communist that wants to destroy anything resembling a classist power structure
Hope you're willing to have the communist and his goons start purges to remove the bourgeois taint from the new system.

>>46059587
>report this obvious joke because it triggered me
Or how about the people who get triggered by it and post assblasted replies seriously should go back to their hugboxes instead of posting on 4chan.

>>46059418
there's quite a bit of a jump between child slaves and "hey, your character is going to get raped and mindbroken for the next few weeks"

>>46059627
>necessity for an ethical leader over a good one, or an ethical society that can't protect and provide for its people over an unethical one that can
All systems of leadership are vulnerable to poor leadership and corruption, its usually very contextual to the culture and regional resources.
Stick with the power structure that keeps everyone happiest and well fed.

Upward mobility and freedom of expression are always good things to include.

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>>46059563
>not about getting him off

Yeah, sure...

>>46059694
I don't pull that because I like giving characters the opportunity to affect the outcome of scenarios.

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Genuinely surprised /tg/ is managing to be this civil here. Good on ya m8s.

OP: just leave quietly. Find a DM who will respect you.

Polite sage.

>>46059745
>sage
>posts picture

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>>46057747
I also want to rape you OP.

well we were all worried about op, then they go ahead with it anyway because "lol magic". Jesus this is why we don't put effort into much anymore.

>>46059563
>he was going to have my character impregnated down the line anyway
>anyway
GET OUT
NOW

>>46059653
This actually has me stumped because one side side... but then, magical realm.

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>>46059563
>He told me he was going to have my character impregnated down the line anyway
>He wouldn't say more
>necessary to the campaign
I'm out

>>46059676

Oh yeah. Like I said, this whole campaign's about analyzing and criticizing different forms of government and seeing how terribly, terribly wrong or right they can go. Hence a benevolent dictatorship being contrasted with a poorly organized socialist movement. One clearly cares about the common person more, but the other is capable of providing for the common person in order to maintain stability, even if their heart ain't in it.


If the commie wins, I'm basically going to imply that it caused a total power breakdown that sends people back in to their tribal days(Something that was so recently abandoned they still have Hill Tribes in certain parts of the Kingdom, and even organized cities/lords have drastically different cultural ideals/physical appearances as a result).

Which leaves them open to a counterattack by the nation of Zombie Republicans directly to the west of them, who the humans have had a notoriously nasty past with.


Which will lead to the next campaign idea, supposing we get to it- Medieval Zombie Apocalypse survival.

>>46059765
inb4
"the bbeg summons a large magical penis"

>>46059758
Thoreau.

Polite sage.

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>>46059563
>He told me he was going to have my character impregnated down the line anyway
Tell us about it when it happened. I'm genuinly interested.

>>46059776
Not really magical realm, its a practical move for an army with mixed gender units.
You don't want to lose troops to attrition and you can't realistically stop them from fucking

>>46059799
Considering that this whole thing is happening because op was leaving it's whatever the retarded gm wants anyway so probably.

>>46058319
/pol/ has great porn thread when the mods start sleeping it's a better /b/

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>>46059563
my only suggestion is take advice from >>46059769 and run.
burn your character sheet and wash your hands from this experience.

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>>46059823
>>46059563
OP I am now morbidly facinated by your DM's story
Please let this happen to your character, just go along with whatever it is he wants and post back about it on /tg/ when it does

>>46059843
I don't think "How can white men even compete?" counts as great porn threads.

>>46059713

Well, King-man gets this thing similar to the Mandate of Heaven where once he's crowned, he's ageless. Can only be killed by violent means, or a sufficient number of people no longer viewing him as the king.

I'd generally agree. The political extremist who's hired my players' characters does not. It was kind of intentional that way, though, because a lot of my players are socialist/left-leaning folks, and highlighting the theme that no one government is truly perfect, and how even a really nice idea can be shite and a really evil idea can be nice, has already created some more open-minded political philosophers out of 'em.

>>46059867
/thread

>>46059789
Honestly the political thing is more interesting than the zombies. Have your republicans sit it out, present them as an alternative more stable but potentially oppressive form of government.

If they have to take part in the whole shitshow have them turn away or massacre refugees fleeing the chaos.

>>46059563
>but I don't think it's about him getting off.
Yep, you're definitely female and naïve.

You'll realize soon.

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>>46059843
>/pol/ has great porn thread
better than /tg/ does?

>>46059789
>>46059927
I know you're thinking 'but the humans have had a terrible past with the zombies'. But think what it means when THOSE fucking guys take the moral high ground.

>>46057747
>(druid elf, party healer)
You're asking for it.

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>>46059965
>Entire threads dedicated to devout and submissive blue-eyed, white-skinned, blonde females
>compared to blacked™

Yeah, they aren't desu.

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>>46059563
May be best to go home and find a new group.

>>46059927

They're different kinds of satisfaction. The zombie one is a lot more simple, but I think deals with more fundamental human struggles and decisions. Ideas like exchanging food for the lives of slaves.


And the Zombies are actually hyper-progressive, extremely efficient and incredibly capable politicians with a very thoughtful people who constantly contribute to the political landscape of their home country. The idea is that zombies don't need food or rest or water, and a lot of them can't have sex, so literally the only things left are higher order concepts to worry about. So every zombie, even the most simple, is left with nothing but his thoughts. Which means he's going to think a lot, and without most of the distractions and necessities (And, admittedly, pleasures) that most of humans have, he's going to be thinking less selfishly.

As a result, they're actually the model for an 'ideal' government- Where everybody has a working brain and nobody ever really needs anything.

>>46059965
Cute brown girls are haram and you know that.

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>>46059563
>impregnated down the line anyway, and it was necessary to the campaign.

>>46059999
they're all healsluts
'cept my mother, she's a saint

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>>46059563
>he was going to have my character impregnated down the line anyway

I can't believe someone would come up with this to begin with, but not even consulting with the player beforehand? What the fuck?
Seems like a very good reason to leave and never look back.

>>46059999
Anything that can turn into a bear is not made to be violated. If anything it's made to do the violating.

>>46060090
If that's what passes for haram these days, I don't want to be halal.

>>46060144
>implying certain bears aren't meant for violating

t. My GM

not OP

>>46060090
Not after marriage

If this is a magical ritual sort of deal, there can be all sorts of arbitrary restrictions for it to work right. A "willing vessel" might be one of them. That might even be the point of the brainwashing. Your character could resist and delay things until you get rescued.

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>>46059563
>He told me he was going to have my character impregnated down the line anyway, and it was necessary to the campaign. He wouldn't say more. We more or less agreed on having my character magically inseminated and brainwashed but not physically raped.

I mean, it's cool if you reached a conclusion you're happy with, but that still seems totally insane to do after you've already told him you're uncomfortable.

>>46059563
I would willingly bet actual money that he's still going to have the BBEG rape your character and just lie about it. He'll probably either strong arm the group into staying quiet or otherwise not mention to them that you refused to have your character raped. I'd suggest you let the other players know to tip you off if he goes with the rape route anyway. Also what the fuck is with your GM planning something like a PC pregnancy as a necessary part of the story? If he's dead set on that kind of shit then I would suggest denying him at every turn until he quits trying that shit. He has your PC impregnated? She finds a spell/potion to abort the child, failing that she throws herself stomach first into a rock and every opening door for the next few months.

>>46060187
Speaking my language, akhee.

So wait as a Dungeon Master you can just rape, brainwash and impregnate female characters and they'll let you as long as you say it's FOR THE PLOT. I need to get me one of those core books asap.

You know what you must do.

Rape him first.

>>46060380
ONLY IN 3.5 M8Y

>>46060380
I know, right? It's like you can just make shit up and people are forced to go along with it or they're SJWs and white knights.

It's like you can create... a magical realm.

>>46060443
>you can just make shit up and /tg/ will believe it
Fixed

>>46060486
But isn't that what /r9k/ does all the time?

>>46060486
wait who do you think made up what?

>>46060216
Well, if we're talking about violating devil-bears wife after devil-bear violated your wife... yeah, that would be justice.

>>46060721
Yes

>>46060731
oglaf pls

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>>46060486
not OP but I've seen that shit happen before
>player has barbarian halfling (I know but it was played straight and pretty cool with my paladin. Rode a dinosaur.)
>get captured by serial killer
>turns out also serial rapist
>player isn't cool with this but GM says its for the plot
>player relents and we get described the worst torture/rape scene ever. I'll spare you the details.
>kills player
>player is pissed.
>gets resurrected
>fast forward like 2 months
>we're trying to get to the underworld but only someone who has been there before can lead us.
>barbarian can lead us.
>the barbarian's player scrunches her face up
>"so she could have just died? why the rape and torture?"
>the gm said for the dramatic tension
>the player has the character kill herself due to the traumatic experience
>lets us know that me and the 3 other players were cool
>waits in the car until her brother packs his shit up so she could drive them both home
>mfw the gm asked what the big deal was
>mfw I knew another player not related to either of those two had been raped
>mfw when the raped player shrugged looking at the ground
>mfw I didn't have a game anymore

>>46059563
This is not happy end. This is awful.

>>46059563
>I'm not sure where he's going with all of this but I don't think it's about him getting off.

Oh sweet summer child...

>>46060953
Brace for accusations of lying.

>>46060953
>I'll spare you the details.
Nah, go for it.

>>46059563
as a bad person/GM let me tell

its about him getting off

>shout out to my players who put up with my femdom shit

>>46060953
You're DM is bad, but not as bad as that assmad cunt who is going into rape hysterics and trigger warning just because she knew someone who was raped and not actually raped herself. Like most of this thread.

>>46061020
We fucking hate your shit.

This thread is pretty hot. I'm imagining a reluctant OP stammering and blushing through her raping and brainwashing arc. Forced to act like she loves the GM self-insert. And then the pregnancy...sweet Sehanine!

>>46059563

Disappointing resolution on the whole, but I think you reacted rationally enough. If you trust your GM with impregnating your character by whatever means, then that is your decision, and I won't challenge it. I might even respect you for being willing to put up with something distasteful to further the game rather than resorting to a table flip ala /tg/.

As you mentioned, you are playing a character with a special bloodline, going up against a BBEG who is all about exploiting and manipulating special bloodlines. Immediately jumping to "He is going to rape you" rather than delaying matters or going with a less physically invasive, magical method reeks to the heavens, but it's understandable that your character's bloodline was going to come in eventually. Especially if eugenics is a part of the plot, their reproductive organs getting roped into this mess might also make some sense.

On the whole, though, I think your DM needs to learn a little bit about boundaries. Your first reaction is the natural reaction most people would have to this sort of thing, and your DM on realizing he might make you uncomfortable should have phrased it as a respectful request with plenty of bargaining room.

>>46059563
I'm sure that there's no other way for him to make his plot work. I mean, he only controls everything else in the world besides your characters, what man could possibly weave a tale under such restrictions?

No, stupid, it's about him getting off.

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>>46061100
Dat haunted look

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>this entire thread

Jesus fucking Christ.I don't know who's worse, the creepy magical realm GM, the people who feel that a person's leisure time should be spent by roleplaying a rape victim, or OP due to the fact that he/she is still wiling to play.

>>46061011
I'll try

So Bloodfang is tied to a bed. Wakes up after being drugged. The killer has a little kid with him. Could be a boy or a girl we didn't know. We thought he was going to kill the kid in front of her.

nope he forces the kid to rape her. then he starts cutting runes into her while its happening. Her player leaves at this point. He sees we're all uncomfortable so I guess he dialed it back but he continued. So after her having the runes carved into her he pushing the kid (no we're aware a boy in a wig) off of her so he can finish his ritual (it wasn't real magic he was just crazy) at which point he rapes he blood covered body and then stabs her through the heart.
no save.
we told him that shit was gross and he assured us it would be plot relevant.

Except that it wasn't relevant except for the dying.

>>46061209
Why not have all of the above be equally awful?

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Dare I say it?

Quit being a drama queen and just fucking go with it. It's whatever.

This entire thread is "Wah wah me me wah wah" and a bunch of white knights assuming you have a vag going "wah wah you you wah wah".

How about you just fucking go with it? It's roleplay, it might be interesting. If so, cool. If not, whatever.

>>46060953
>>46061229
>implying this isn't bait

>>46061122

Nailed it.

Yet another thread about crotch-centric RP and /tg/ just lets derptastic sameposters lead them around by the nose. Come on, /tg/. You're better than this.

>>46061209
At least you can take comfort in knowing that the second option are people who don't get outside and interact with the real world.

This is what /tg/ has mutated into, this is depressing

>>46058116
Why isn't the villain at least trying to seduce the druid?
Additionally, why not clone the Druid, bbeg gets a clone, party kills him and clone at an opportune time, keep baby and raise it as your own

>>46057747
Accept the seed of du-jour inside you, filthy elvish whore.

>>46061475

On the latter, assuming the BBEG has that sort of power might be a little far-fetched. Making whole new human beings from scratch is kind of a huge deal. There are less flashy methods of course in really "any" sort of magical setting that would serve. However, even in the case where magic "isn't" a part of the setting (which it's clear it is), there may have been other options.

On the former, though, do you "really" want Mr. Creepy GM roleplaying out the rapist seduction checks?

>>46058518

Technically, if the character is brainwashed, wouldn't any sex be rape since she is not in the state of mind to give consent?

Anyhow, this is a bit creepy. Rape, if it exists in a game, should definitely be a fade to black moment. Also, with powerful enough magic the villain could simply clone the character and use the clone. That raises its own set of implications, but at least it preserves the player's own link with the character.

>>46058863

Good grief. That's not cool.

"He told me he was going to have my character impregnated down the line anyway, and it was necessary to the campaign"

This DM sounds like trouble. The first exchange is already worrisome, but the "she still needs to be inseminated" is a serious warning sign. That is the sort of messing with a character that I would be extremely cautious about ever doing, and this "very annoyed" bit does not fill me with confidence.

Your character, your call... but that DM strikes me as a possible problem.

>>46061637
>On the former, though, do you "really" want Mr. Creepy GM roleplaying out the rapist seduction checks?
Pretty sure the GM can't just go "I rolled a 15, plus my modifiers, so 18 total. You are totally in love with the bbeg now."

>>46061709
I'm sure a couple of anons would disagree with you.

Or one serial shitposter.

>>46058863
If you have the power of body control like you stated earlier, why not make yourself sterile? Wild shape as a Druid and get fixed? Use you knowledge of nature to find some herbs that act as a contraceptive?
If you don't want to get preggers, then don't.

>>46061475

How I would do this sort of plot (of course, realizing the GM is not me), is that the BBEG uses blood and flesh samples to foster specialized homunculi. If I wanted capturing a player to be necessary, they would need fresh samples. If I wanted a more clever and terrifying BBEG, I'd have them collect blood in every manner imaginable, be it magically controlled mosquito swarms, mercenary harvesters, or friendly blood drives going on in cities high profile targets will be going through.

This campaign sounds pretty fun actually. I like the villain.

>>46059563
Lol fuck his campaign and have your pregnant character get an abortion. The abortion the causes sterility.

>>46061855
Reminds me of Outlander.
Rarely do you get the pleasure of hating a character as much as the bad guy in Outlander.

>>46061855

I don't understand what there is to like... Could you elaborate?

>>46061982
Racist bad guy is fun, wanting to brainwash and make a PC is wife is fun. I dunno I guess I'm easily amused.

What a blase villain. If I were DM i'd leave the possibility of it happening open, only to reveal a clone made from samples taken from her to be the new vessel. If they stop him and the clone survives, the character now has to deal with a clone of herself, with none of her experiences that built her personality. It can become a twin sister/evil clone thing further on.

Rape and death are just so incredibly boring.

>>46062093

No, anon, don't you understand? It only works if she carries his perfect child! Morning sickness, odd mood swings, sudden bouts of fatigue, all while nursing the blob of perfect genetics molded between her and him. IT WAS MEANT TO BE!

Well I know what my next campaign is gonna be about.

Full on druid rape all day baby.

>>46062382
Bestiality ftw

>>46062241
Sounds like taking agency from the player, which is a no no.

You actually want your players to play your characters. Shit like that just makes things less fun.

>>46057747

None of this actually happened, but I personally feel that rape shouldn't be done to PCs unless everyone's okay with it.

NPCs, however, are fair game. Nothing lights a fire beneath a PC like his love interest being kidnapped by the villain for rape and brainwashing.

>>46062501

That's sarcasm anon. Please understand sarcasm.

>>46062535

Rape shouldn't be involved, period, unless everyone is okay with it. And it isn't exactly something a GM should put on his beginning of the game "Are you okay with this?" checklist.

>>46062535
>None of this actually happened
You really think someone would do that? Just go on the Internet and tell lies?

This stupid meme brought to you by the year 2012.

But seriously do you think op made this all up? Who would have the patience? She related us her whole negociation with her dm over hours.

>>46062588
>Rape shouldn't be involved, period, unless everyone is okay with it
Yeah, ask those NPCs what they think!

>And it isn't exactly something a GM should put on his beginning of the game "Are you okay with this?" checklist
Pussyfooting around 'problematic' topics leaves people incapable of actually dealing with them, because there's no real discourse available. Our society fetishizes rape as the greatest crime of all, which makes victims experiences worse than they would be otherwise. That's probably part of the reason it's such a common fetish with women, they're constantly bombarded with stuff intended to cause fear and it flips their weird switch.

>>46062663
You're supposed to ask the players if they're okay with Rape, not the characters.

How hard is it to just talk with your players about this like adults and find a solution everyone is comfortable with?

>>46062663

Well, if you want to be the progressive that shoves this into all of your games to teach your players how okay rape actually is, be my guest. The fact of the matter is that the subject of rape makes most people uncomfortable, and the purpose of a game, unless otherwise understood by the players, is to have fun and be relaxed.

>>46062663
Everyone being players, quit being a dick.

Difficult or problematic topics are good to explore, if everyone is okay with doing so, just like any other media. If you're not okay with it, then unlike most media the game can just not go into those details, whereas you'd have to not play a game or watch a movie to avoid it.

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>>46059563
Op. Your GM is being That Guy.
It's really weird and creepy to be forcing this sort of thing on a player. If having the bad guy's kid was a concept you wanted to role-play, then that would be all good, but this GM being so insistent on it is showing me all kinds of red flags.
Dude's being weird about your character, and frankly it's bad GMing to just decide a player character needs to be preggo for your story to work.
Does he do this to other players in your group?

My character has been raped countless times but you don't see me complaining. Hell, I even enjoy it sometimes if the descriptions are well-done. It helps that I have a female GM who's pretty hot.

>>46062797
that's because you're That Guy

>>46062766
>The fact of the matter is that the subject of rape makes most people uncomfortable
From 1973 through 2008, nine surveys of women's rape fantasies have been published. They show that about four in 10 women admit having them (31 to 57 percent) with a median frequency of about once a month. Actual prevalence of rape fantasies is probably higher because women may not feel comfortable admitting them.

>Not most women though.

For the latest report (Bivona, J. and J. Critelli. "The Nature of Women's Rape Fantasies: An Analysis of Prevalence, Frequency, and Contents," Journal of Sex Research (2009) 46:33), psychologists at North Texas University asked 355 college women: How often have you fantasized being overpowered/forced/raped by a man/woman to have oral/vaginal/anal sex against your will?

Sixty-two percent said they'd had at least one such fantasy. But responses varied depending on the terminology used. When asked about being "overpowered by a man," 52 percent said they'd had that fantasy, the situation most typically depicted in women's romance fiction. But when the term was "rape," only 32 percent said they'd had the fantasy. These findings are in the same ballpark as previous reports.

>I guess they just want to roleplay it with underwear models, not sweaty nerds

>>46062828

I don't give a shit about statistics, anon. Nor do I think this slew of hypothetical women would be lining up to have you rape their imaginary characters in front of them with your hard, sweaty diction while they are trying to play a nice, relaxing game of pretend. If they're into that, that's fine. If they'll tolerate it, that's fine. But if anyone at your table says "Don't include rape in the fucking story. It makes me uncomfortable." DO NOT FUCKING DO IT!

It's a game, not a fucking pundit for your outspoken perception of your own knowledge or anti-political correctness views.

>>46062887
>But if anyone at your table says "Don't include rape in the fucking story. It makes me uncomfortable." DO NOT FUCKING DO IT!
You have an ugly chick at your table. She passes you a note saying that she's triggered by rape.
You also have a hot chick at your table. She passes you a note saying that forced or coercive sex is totally her thing. Those glasses look good on you, by the way.

What do you do?