SOI SPOILERS: KEEP THAT TRANNY SHIT OUT EDITION

>>46034528
>Printing this
They should print good things like Maná drain

>>46034528
Would have been good if they printed at 4 loyalty. Starting at 3 is kinda shit.

So the correct way to play this card is like Jace Beleren, right?

Wolf, Bolt, Wolf, Bolt, Wolf, Bolt, done.

>>46034701
sometimes yu give a turn six play haste.

>>46034528
Better than the WR one. Not that it is a feat

>>46034528
I'm just happy to have any werewolf planeswalker.

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So how do the people of Hanweir think a wall is gonna stop flyers?

>>46034528
Do we have a spoiler of her flipped side yet?

>>46034528
>shitty flipwalker that starts in bolt range
good job wizards, yet another useless one that will never be played
into the trash it goes!

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>>46034879

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>>46034879
Here you go

>>46034881
Why is it shitty besides loyalty

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Odric 2.0

>>46034912
>>46034902
Huh. I admit, I'm fairly impressed by her ultimate. Only having 3 Loyalty, though, is worrisome.

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I thought 'well, there goes Ruinous Path.' I was wrong

>>46034881
>use +1 ability
>out of bolt range
holy shit my mind is blown!

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>>46034971

This card. It makes me sad. But it is quite good.

Poor Gossamer.

>>46034971
>have a thraxundar EDH deck that is stupidly themey with sacrificing
>every edict gets me excited, regardless of playability
it is an instant though, always nice.

>>46034946
PUSHED
U
S
H
E
D

>>46034946
How is Descennt upon the Sinful a muthic and not this shit?

>>46034971
When are we getting more demons anyway?

>>46034971
Can a native explain why there isn't an "a" in front of planeswalker?

Olivia is gonna be R/B planeswalker. Calling it.

You know I´m right

>>46035103
It's parsed as "a (creature or planeswalker)", there's no need for two articles.

>>46035003
cant you just react to that with a bolt ?

>>46035129
But can you really do that since they're two distinct objects and planeswalker could (theoretically) have "the" in front if it?

>>46035103

"a" is connected to both nouns by "or". You could place another "a", placing another one would just be redundant.

>>46035080

Descend upon the sinful is a car designed to do well in standard, that's why it's mythic

Whereas Odric here is just edh fodder, ergo he was gonna be $1 at any rarity, might as well save the mythic slots for cards that will sell packs

>>46035023

>wotc spends three sets trying to make planeswalkers relatable
>eh

>One card with a lamb on it
>RIGHT IN THE EMOTIONAL INVESTMENT

>>46034881
Wizards doesn't make every card intended for eternal play, there's no bolt in this format.

Standardcucks need to stop playing Standard so cards get better.

>>46035142
Putting loyalty counters on a PW is part of the cost, so no you can't.

>>46035103
Because that way it's congruent? I know 4chan isn't stellar when it comes to grammar, but goddamnit Tyrone.

>>46035151
"The" is a definite article, there would need to be a specific planeswalker identified beforehand.

>>46035142
the counter is a cost. after the walker resolves its controller gets priority, activating the ability puts her at 4 loyalty before anyone gets priority again

>>46034948
She can drop a wolf to protect herself the turn she drops though that won't stop burn.

>>46034881
Liliana of the veil and jace the mind sculptor start in bolt range I guess they are both also garbage

>>46034971
>Uncommon card
>Mentions Planeswankers
>Better make it rare

>>46035158
That lamb has a name, dammit!

>>46035249
>instant speed 2-1 removal spell that can kill two different types of cards.

that's why, its very premo-removal.

>>46034971
This card genuinely makes me upset.

"Falkenrath Gorger"

R

Creature - Vampire Warrior

Each vampire creature card you own that isn't on the battlefield has Madness. Its Madness cost is equal to its mana cost.

2/1

This card seems crazy!

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>>46034971
>tfw already have a BW goat deck which uses Fallen Ideal to sacrifice goats and Starlit Sanctum to fling clerics at the opponent
I love the flavor on this card goddamn, I'll take 10

>>46035103
Because you can't read

>>46035249
The card makes playing planeswalkers worse for your opponent especially if you're delirious already. Also, the rarity affects limited. If a lot of "sac your mythic" was floating around at incoming in sealed/draft, then playing your walkers against Bx decks would be pointless.

> W/R Equipment, G/R Werewolf, R/U Prowess, R/B Vampire and W/B Ayli all look fun

Should I really build five decks for Standard?

>>46035373
Bought a playset of Drama because of this card

>>46035249
>OGW had four moderately-playable "planeswalkers matter" cards
>this block has 6 planeswalkers, 2 of which are known to be blue
Super Friends is going to happen once KTK rotates and this will be one of the best deterrents against it.

>>46035445
Not drama, Drana

>>46035465
Tamiyo is still a maybe-but-probably

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>>46035373
BR VAMPS, HOOOOOO!!!!!

>>46035267
As though Gossamer won't turn around and devour that mofo.

>>46035080
WHY THE FUCK WOULD YOU WANT GOOD MYTHICS YOU IMBECILE?

Not that Odric is that good.

>>46034850
Same way Trump thinks a wall will stop Mexicans.

>>46035568
why did I just picture mexicans using giant floopy sombreros like wings to fly over into america?

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>>46034902
>not a Commander
YOU HAD ONE JOB WIZARDS
ONE JOB
FUCKING REEEEEEEEEEEEEE

(CANT WAKE UP)

>>46035465
>this block has 6 planeswalkers
Unsourced claim is unsourced.

>>46034850
How the hell do they think it's going to stop geists at all?

>>46035604
Because things flying in silly manners is a /tg/ staple

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>>46035604

>>46035109
You are so wrong it's hilarious. Literally everyone but you knows the 6 planeswalkers we're getting this block.

>>46035627
4 in this set, Lili is confirmed for the next, and Tamiyo is plot-important

>>46035550

He looks fun to play in a kitchen deck, though.

>>46035672
>and Tamiyo is plot-important
You mean like Jace and Ugin in BFZ block?

>>46035672
>wizards doesn't actually print lili in EM, make excuses that she's like jace in OGW. Secretly all of R&D just spends months with permanent trollface

Is her artist supposed to have shat the bed when drawing her? Bitch looks like a man smdh tbqh familiars

>>46035684
ugin wa surprisingly minor if BfZ. he was basically "hey, jace. you're new, so don't break this shit" and then later "god dammit you kids broke everything!"

>>46035684
a) She's already in official art
b) She hasn't had a card since AVR, while Ugin had a card two sets before BFZ, and Jace has a card all the fucking time
And most importantly c)
THE NEXT SET HAS MOON IN THE GODDAMN NAME

>>46035728
>familiars
what?

>>46035683
Pretty good for EDH too

>>46035684
Plot-important as in central to the plot
>Jace is on Innistrad to find Tamiyo
>Tamiyo has been studying the moon
>the next set is ELDRITCH MOON

>>46035546
Either that or the Shepherd will go Doom Guy on that demon. If that guy can kill off the entirety of Hell because they killed his pet bunny this dude can beat a demon that ate his lamb to death out of rage with a crook.

>>46035816
jace is actually on innistrad to find sorin. he just compulsively involves himself in world spanning bullshit

>>46034850
Noone can get out of Hanweir. What could possibly go wrong?

>>46034971
Where's my innocent blood reprint?

So why does WotC slob on Beleren's knob as sloppily as they do? I know blue is their favorite color, but the other blue planeswalkers haven't seen anywhere near the amount of different versions as Jace has.

Hell no other single planeswalker has gotten as much involvement in multiple plots like he has.

Is Jace the ultimate Gary Sue due to mindmagic?

>>46035103
>a creature OR planeswalker
Selecting between items makes the unpicked ones non-relevant.

>a creature AND a planeswalker
All items referenced are relevant, so one of each is needed.

>>46035969
Jace has been the poster-boy of magic for a while now.

>>46035969

Jace is literally the most popular planeswalker.

Remember, the typical MtG fan
1) Doesn't read the novels.
2) Barely knows the lore beyond what might get explained to them at FNM.
3) Hasn't been immersed in ANY kind of fiction very deeply.

"Badass mindmage who is smart and cool and does smart things in a hoodie" is still cool to them, and that's Jace.

>>46036018
Yeah, Jace was designed from the outset to appeal to the typical magic player.

And to be fair, his stories have been some of the best once they started doing that on the website.

>>46035757
>a) She's already in official art
As were both Jace and Ugin in BFZ. What's your point?

>b) She hasn't had a card since AVR, while Ugin had a card two sets before BFZ, and Jace has a card all the fucking time
Irrelevant.

>And most importantly c)
>THE NEXT SET HAS MOON IN THE GODDAMN NAME
And a lot of sets have had "Zendikar" in their name without Nahiri showing up in them. Your point? Sarkhan didn't show up in Dragon's Maze, but it mentioned dragons.

>All colors getting toys
>Blue still shit
Do the people who develop for Force of Will now in WoTC?

vigilance? on red/green?

weird.

>>46035816
Jace was pretty goddamn central to the plot of BFZ, given that he was the only one who knew how to imprison Ulamog, and, once that failed, the one who came up with the plan to kill the Titans.

>>46036018
in all fairness, the uncharted realms with kelly digges writing jace has made him into the nerd mage who barely keeps his spaghetti out of sight, which is a pretty endearing character.

>>46036018
I don't read the novels (because I'm a hundred percent sure they're trash), and I don't find it very appealing as a character. Tamiyo, Tezzeret, Liliana, even Nissa are more interesting. Jace just seems like a smug can't-do-no-wrong know-it-all from the flavor text and the glimpses of the universe I get from reading some articles.

>>46036086
Eldritch Moon is about the moon, Dragon's Maze was not about dragons

>>46035782
The inclusion of skulk is going to be great for my Doran Deck, which is already running Concerted Effort.

>>46035060
He's literally a Concerted Effort that's easier to kill.

>>46036114
they made vigilance secondary or tertiary in green a while back.

>>46036101
You get a Jace, shut up

>>46035969
>Hell no other single planeswalker has gotten as much involvement in multiple plots like he has.
Jace has been involved in four plots now: Original Zendikar, Return to Ravnica, Battle for Zendikar, and Shadows Over Innistrad.

Sorin has been involved in the same number of plots: Original Zendikar, Original Innistrad, Khans of Tarkir, Shadows Over Innistrad.

Elspeth, Sarkhan, and Gideon have been involved in three plots each, only one fewer than Jace and Sorin.

>>46036114
Vigilance is secondary in green, it just doesn't show up that often.

>>46036162
Until we know what it does....Blue is shit

>>46036018

To be fair, all the planeswalkers still around kind of suck. Including Sorin.

>>46036114
Vigilance is secondary/tertiary(?) in green, so they can have it at rare or mythic and occasionally lower if it fits

>>46036146
No, Eldritch Moon is about Emrakul.

>>46036149
odrick is just worse than concerted effort. he only pings on combat instead of upkeep

>>46035894
The leaders are being controlled by something, calling it now

>>46036173
>bluebabbies whining about not getting loads of OP shit every single block

>>46035192
>>46035402
Learn to read yourselves; grammar-anon asked for a native speaker's interpretation, it's obviously not their main language.

>>46035103

>>46035129 and >>46035153 have it right.

>>46036174
>Preferes urza mary sue than jace mary sue
Old walkers were more mary sues than newalkers

>>46036207
>casualfag mad of not knowing how to play against cancel
This is why force of will and mana drain should be standard legal

>>46036207
>complaining about OP shit
Blue has been fuck over since Ravnica other than splash cards....

Blue wasnt a playable color in Khans...Dig/Cruise were

They need to print playable cantrips, not make RARE Cancels, and actually give Blue bounce spells that dont cost 3+ mana or come at sorcery speed.

>>46036184
>pings
What

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>>46034850
>>46035894

>>46036184
True. I do always appreciate a new version of a keyword-granter every few blocks, though, so you can play with whatever they've added since the last one.

>>46036018
The fact that his printed cards are typically pretty powerful also contribute to him being popular I imagine.
Jace has the strongest brand of any planeswalker. You know that if you're getting Jace walker card, you can probably rely on it. Quality you can trust.

>>46036215
There is an "a" in front of planeswalker though

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>>46034902
Yes. YES.

>>46036265
The second time, yes. Not the first time.

>>46036184
How is that worse? Were you going to make use of all those combat related keywords before combat?

>>46036247
I think anon's using it as a synonym for "triggers".

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>>46036245
>give Blue bounce spells that dont cost 3+ mana or come at sorcery speed
Hello my name is Disperse how are you today

>>46036329
Yeah, I'm not sure how his trigger going off AFTER you've had the chance to drop a creature with a combat ability is worse.

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People wanting furry commander got rekt

>>46034881
It's actually not in Bolt range because you can retain priority and give it another loyalty counter. No 3 Loyalty Planeswalker is in Bolt range because of this unless they have such a shitty +1 that you'd never want to use it.

>>46034946
What the fuck, that's insane. I thought they didn't like doing keyword soup anymore.

>>46036407
They do it often enough. See Chromanticore and Soulflayer for recent examples.

>Magic is doing a block themed around a Gothic horror setting getting invaded by cosmic horrors
>Hearthstone is doing a Lovecraft-inspired expansion
>new Call of Cthulu in development
>Dark Souls 3 is mostly built on Bloodborne assets (which is also heavily influenced by Lovecraft)
Follow the money, people! Fuck the whole Trump bullshit! You should worry about making sure to be eaten first!

>>46035373
It's a 2/1 for R, it'd get played pretty much no matter what. That said, I wonder if anything will actually come of its ability. There's obviously Heir of Falkenrath and Drana, Liberator of Malakir but I don't think that deck's stable enough.

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This guy looks very playable. English name still pending.

>Rattlechains - 1U
>Creature - Spirit

>Flash
>Flying
>When ~ enters the battlefield, target Spirit you control gains hexproof until end of turn.
>You may play Spirit (creature?) cards as though they had flash.

>>46036139
Jace is an insecure manlet that caves to his abuser (Lilliana), and lusts for the strong confidence of Gideon

>>46034528
Arlinn is a little like a swiss army knife: it CAN do a lot of shit, but have you ever tried using most of those options? The corkscrew is a pain, the can opener takes forever and a day to open anything, and the knife blade itself isn't particularly good either.

Arlinn's +1 doesn't protect her on an empty field, her token generating ability leaves her in Bolt range and deprives you over her unflipped +1, her flipped +1 is mediocre to poor unless you're already overextended, her Bolt ability puts you back into the position of having no really good way to defend her, her emblem is kind of a joke, and you can't necessarily count on being able to use the ability you want the turn you want it because you can only use either side's abilities once a turn. So if the wrong side's up, you're shit out of luck.

Eclectic as fuck abilities that individually aren't up to snuff, and inconsistent because of its transformation triggers.

>>46036626
>caves to his abuser (Lilliana)
That's why he told her to fuck off, right?

>>46036626
>caring about fictional characters this much

>>46036606
RATTLE RATTLE

Jesus christ, I thought we were only getting two Planeswalkers in SoI. This is insane.

I haven't spent a penny on Magic Duels, but I have a Planeswalker deck with every available Planeswalker already in it and it's already broken as fuck. Now I get all these guys? Goddamn.

>>46036164
what about Quest for Karn?

I guess that actually never happened now though

>>46036018
Watching Ob smack that faggot while he tried to fuck with his mind was pretty entertaining.

>>46036223
>Urza
>Mary Sue

He suffered the consequences of his constant fuck-ups for his entire life and only at the last second did the right thing by using his own life to wipe out Phyrexia.

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>>46034881
>/tg/ in charge of understanding magic rules

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>>46034946
Viable?

>>46034946
probably fine in standard, but in modern is outdone by Brimaz and Hero of Bladehold

>>46036903
Kinda bummed that it doesn't do Protection like Concerted Effort does. Used to have a casual deck centered around it and Mistmeadow Skulk turned out to be an allstar in that.

>>46037043
He only distributes abilities that are evergreen during his set.

So why is skulk there?

>>46036903
Seems like a nice Combo. I'd throw in that transforming sword to make insidious mist more of a threat on its own.

>>46037081
skulk is in this set.

>>46036903
>waiting until turn 5
>viable
not really

>>46037121
this is standard we are talking about, it can go on quite a while

>>46037081
potentially a new evergreen mechanic. U/B doesn't really have a crossover mechanic keyword at the moment.

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>>46037096
Prowess was in Fate Reforged, why didn't Soulflayer get prowess?

I'm positing that after Eldritch Moon, we get another 'we liked skulk so much and you like skulk so much that we decided to make it evergreen out of the blue and totally without planning!' announcement just like Prowess got one.

>>46034701
except for the part where you can only activate one ability a turn, sure.

>>46036903
Probably not viable, but amusing.

WUR Clues/Artifacts with Eldrazi Displacer and Reflector Mage alongside the Origins artifact stuff looks kind of fun.

>>46036635
>making every creature hasty and essentially unblockable is a joke

>>46034946

First rare of this set that I like.

>>46037158
True, but when you can be attacking with heir to the night and incorrigible youths for 7 damage on turn 3, and even more with stuff like vampire glutton and lightning axe.

It could be a quicker format

>>46034971
RIP good removal in black at instant speed, ever.

>>46037189
It wasn't evergreen yet. It was only evergreen from Origins onwards, but then wasn't actually in BFZ, but came back for Oath

>>46034902
>>46034912
The werewolf form is kind of hot.

>>46037265
Which leaves the question of why is a non-evergreen word included in Odric, when it wasn't included in Soulflayer?

>>46036606
>Spirit tribal remains WU and not WB
You know what fuck everything.

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Tainted Chains
1U
Creature - Spirit
Flash, flying

When Tainted Chains enters the battlefield, target spirit gains hexproof until end of turn.

You can cast spirit spells as though they had flash.

Obligatory 4 of in any casual tribal spirit deck.

>>46036329
>>46036355
>what is hexproof
>what is protection

>>46036174
>all the planeswalkers still around kind of suck. Including Sorin

well duh he is vampire after all

>>46037209
Upon reading "or player" I retract that statement. That's actually pretty good.

>>46036606
GOD DAMNIT

>>46036794

where

>>46037191
It starts at 3. Zero, -1, zero, -1, zero, -1 dead. You're a fucking idiot

>>46034946
>no Prowess but Skulk instead

What.

>>46037312
Not everything could be in black, okay. Werewolves had to settle for green/red and spirits are blue/white. If it makes you feel better, white spirits tend to be benevolent while blue spirits are mischevious.

>>46037312
>not making a spirit tribal esper deck

What are you a pleb?

>>46036139
They fuck up massively on his flavor test for some reason. He's always depicted as a smug, know-it-all asshole when in truth he's just an insecure kid that's constantly out of his depth.

>>46037189
>>46037295
Prowess isn't a static ability.

>>46037375
it's at the start of combat so only instants could be activated. Prowess and skulk are sort of opposing abilities in some ways. I hope we get a creature with both

>>46034902
>Werewolf Planeswalker
Oh Yes, this pleases me

>>46037392
but he's also a telepath and a nerd, so he's good at faking being in his depth.

I'd love a scene with him and tamiyo or chandra or someone he's been high and might at where he just breaks down and admits he doesn't know shit and spends like 75% of his effort faking it.

>>46036086
>Sarkhan shows up in Dragon's Maze, because he heard the word "dragon"
>Gets pissed because there's only one dragon on the whole goddamn plane
>summons ALL THE DRAGONS and burns down Ravnica out of spite

Honestly, it would have been better than what we got.

>>46037526
To the point where the people who read his flavour text think 'man, what an asshole.'

>>46037494
Honestly, I think it's a fuckup because it has every evergreen ability on it except prowess - plus skulk which might be the missing evergreen UB keyword.

>>46037383
Teysa is the most flavorful for spirit tribal and she's unable to use the spirit Lord effects. It's shit.

>>46037526
I want him to trick people into thinking he has more powers than he actually has, like tricking those cultists on Zendikar into thinking he was casting fire spells by using illusions

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>>46037543
>Gets pissed because there's only one dragon on the whole goddamn plane
>only one dragon

>>46037318
>Obligatory 4 of in any casual tribal spirit deck.
A few more decent 1 or 2 drop spirits and it won't be a casual deck, at least in Modern.

>>46037392
There is probably no prowess in the set. Remember draft goyim.

Whelp, fuck that.
The set looked (and looks) interesting, but all this shit is just too fucking weak.

>>46034902
I'm kinda sad that her flipped side isn't an actual werewolf creature.

>>46037568
the only reason you'd go black is for lingering spirits and one mana hand disruption.

>>46037609
>Spirit of the Labyrinth
>Kataki, War's Wage
>and the one or two enchantment removal spirits

There are some good 2 drop spirits, the problem is they all fit better as sideboard tech or in D&T

>>46037664
I figured it was to prevent immerwolf from allowing her to bolt every turn.

Janky combo

>>46037606
oh yeah, I forgot they retconned it so that Niv was fascinated by other dragons instead of killing them all off so that he could be the only one.

>>46036606
Gorgeous art. I might alter it

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>>46037753
>retconned

>>46037627
There have already been two cards with prowess spoiled so far. It's evergreen now.

>>46037753
He killed off all the elder dragons on his plane.

>>46037701
>There are some good 2 drop spirits, the problem is they all fit better as sideboard tech or in D&T
Little Anafenza is also a spirit.

Ideally though, you'd be able to play only spirits with flying so you could run Favorable Winds as an anthem for your huge army of flying hexproof creatures.

>>46034850

>tyrant Avacyn and her magnificent betrayals

Reads a bit oddly.

Avacyn would have to actually show up in person in the middle of the day, execute one persona horribly and then fly off, and do that all over the country in order for her corruption to be believed.

Otherwise, the wall is probably warded as heavily as they could arrange. Which would stop geists and could stop flyers.

>>46037753
The end of the gatewatch book had other dragons being born from dormant eggs. Niv killed one but then nephilim showed up so he fucked off before finishing the job and that's why hypersonic exists.

>>46037874
Pardon, guildpact not gatewatch

>>46037651
They're clearly going for a lower-power Standard.

Not every card has to be Legacy-playable

>>46037762
Oh shit dude that's amazing, you alter cards. You got like a blog or something other than this thread for me to follow?

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>>46037609
>>46037701
I can already see a few spirits that suddenly become busted with flash tacked on.

>>46037953
>Geist comes back
HA HA

>>46037953
Flashing in an Eidolon of Rhetoric sounds like fun.

Topplegeist should also work well for this Standard. Flash it in, tap down a creature, then try to activate Delirium as fast as possible for a better lock

>>46037753
i thought the lore is that he killed off all the other guilds dragons. probably wanted direct control over them.

>>46037953
oh, heres' a rules question.

someone bolts your creature, in response you flash in Kira, would the bolt still be countered as kira's trigger wasn't there when bolt was first cast, or would the ability still trigger?

>>46038050
The ability would still trigger.

>>46038050
You'd have to flash it in before they declared a target for it to trigger, but then they'd just bolt you in the face

>>46038050
no trigger.

>>46038014
actually Eidolon of Rhetoric can't counter anything, can he?
spells already cast are already cast

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>>46037953
>pic related with hexproof and flash
My body is ready.

>>46038090
>>46038122

contradicting answers.

I assumed it wouldn't trigger, as you have already set a target before the target had the ability.


but my knowledge of the stack and triggers/resolving is shaky at best

>>46038137
yes, but you can flash him in in response to the first spell a turn and be guaranteed no removal or follow-up aside from maybe a counter

>>46038050
Think kira resolving as adding extra text to the card.
The text was not there when it was originally targeted so no trigger.

>>46037227

Doom Blade still exists

>>46037762
Show your alters, fag.

>>46038050
You get no trigger. Kira gives your creatures an ability that will trigger the moment Bolt is cast. Responding to the Bolt is too late because the creature already became a target.

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>>46037953
>>46037318
>spirit tribal

RETURN TO KAMIGAWA IN 2017 CONFIRMED, FUCKERS!!!

>>46038162
It only gives hexproof until end of turn.

>>46038316
MUH DICK

>>46038162
at what point is flash an improvement? are you going to flash him in at the end of your opponent's turn so you can't untap, or on your opponent's upkeep when they've already untapped?

>>46035142
>criticizing cards you don't understand
Come on /tg/, you can be better than this.

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>>46038162
>at the end of your turn, I flash in Hokori!
>at the start of my turn, I untap one land...

>>46038031
there was also utvara hellkite and hellkite tyrant who were unaffiliated with any guilds

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>>46036903

the way Odric is looking at that sword.. is that pic related reprint or equivalent?

>>46038408
and hunted dragon in the first run.

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>>46038162
>flashing in Topplegeist
>flashing in Eidolon of rhetoric
>flashing in Spirit of the Labyrinth
>flashing in Hokori
>flashing in drogskol Captain in response to removal

>>46038435
do those look at all similar, anon

>>46038435
no, it's the same sword he had in his first printing. the guard is avacyn's collar, the symbol of her church

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>>46037953
I have someone else in mind too

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So, what's the best DFCreature for this to be paired with?

>>46038485
>werewolfing intensifies

>>46038435
we never see the end of his sword in either of his cards, so I like to believe it's really long

>>46038475

The art of a reprint doesn't have to look similar, dummy.

>>46038497
Whatever flips to Insidious Mist, or that cheap vampire chick who flips on discard.

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>>46038497

>>46038497
Heir of Falkenrath or Elusive Tormentor

>>46038497
them avacyn missionaries seem pretty okay.

>>46036121
That was what he was before, too.
Unfortunately, it's hard to see that because it was all in the books that nobody read, and the flavor text attributed to him is basically an entirely different character.

>>46038497
Easy to trigger ones, ones that protect themselves, or most likely whatever commons you manage to get for your draft deck running neglected heirloom

>>46038329
Drogskol Captain

>>46038388
>>46038396
Play around counters, gives you more options to punish people for tapping out.

If you cast him eot then untap you could potentially represent protection before your opponent untaps his land.

>>46038316

And everything costs too much mana again so the block doesn't sell and Wizards once more assume people just don't like Kamigawa.

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>>46034946
Hi-res art

I like that they listed first strike first

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>>46036838
>"You, Ballard, we need to attack Kjeldorans! Do you have a plan?"
>"I do. I even have two plans in case the first one fails."
>"What is your plan, Ballard?"
>"Fire."
>"Oh, okay. What if it fails? Do you have a fail-safe?"
>"Yes, I have a foolproof plan B."
>"So, what is it?"
>"More fire."

>>46038569
was there a jace book other than agents of artifice? because by my understanding that shit is only canon because of word of god and contradicts a whole lot of other shit

>>46037953
Is this for modern or commander? Either way it looks pretty cool.

>>46036774
Quest for Karn happened and didn't involve Jace in the slightest.
It's Test of Metal that didn't happen because fuck giving someone at-will timehax for literally no reason at all

>>46038579
>Drogskol Captain
I assumed you were just talking about what you would gain from rattlechains (or whatever it is called.)

>>46038616
The Secretist, aka the Return to Ravnica story

>>46038592
His face looks like something out of a 2002 RPG

>>46037953
Eidolon of Rhetoric + Aether Vial + Flash in all Spirits

I want this to be a thing

>>46038689
whas that an actual novel or an ebook? I thought that was during the dark times for magic story

>>46038616
You're thinking of Test of Metal. Agents of Artifice only contradicts some Ravnica worldbuilding, but the actual plot elements were confirmed canon in Origins.

Test of Metal is a clusterfuck that we all pretend doesn't exist.

>>46038738
ah. I completely forgot test of metal's title but thought there were two books, thanks.

>>46036387
Nah, they're specifically holding it til Eldritch Moon.
Can't blow your entire load Set One, after all.
Of course, being WotC, they're gonna fuck up and make it GW or something

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>>46038592
>They didn't listed double strike twice
Dropped.

>>46038617
It's a bad idea for commander. It's not good as a one-of, considering it's necessary for a lot of cool effects.

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Macabre Waltz reprint, along with some new art.

>>46037953

Oh man, Labyrinth being flashed in in response to someone's big card draw combo would be hilarious.

>>46036387

Is this even limited playable?

Seems like a late game card that gets shittier the later it gets...

Wouldn't play this even if I was drafting monogreen tbqh

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>>46038903

>The angelic headstones are playing instruments

Someone was having fun with this one. I approve.

>>46038903
makes sense to print it in a set with so much madness stuff.

>>46038903
accompanied by the weeping angel hoo-ha band

>>46038497
So is this a 1-of or a 3-of? Thinking bout putting it into BR vamps

>>46038922

Don't you get it? This is exactly why they printed those shitty uncommon dual lands. You hold them in your hand forever and let this guy get bigger, BRAVO MARO.

>>46038579
Two words: Seedborn Muse

>>46038922

A 3/3 draw a card at 5 mana is enough for most limited decks, and that card will almost always be better than that.

>>46038975
I was thinking about going full playset in BR vamps because why the fuck not

>>46038592
>Anon
did he turn into George Clooney?

>>46038903

If that's the Relentless Dead zombie, Liliana is wa-wa-wa-wa-waltzing with bears.

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>>46039082
I think he just gained a little weight in the face

>>46039082
He was always a cross between George Clooney and Sean Connery

>>46039045
>A 3/3 draw a card at 5 mana is enough for most limited decks, and that card will almost always be better than that.

completely useless if you top-deck it and it will be weak even if do flip it as it will be so late in the game

surely you can get more for 5 mana, even watcher in the web is a better 5 drop imo tbqh with you familia

>>46034528
I just want to see New sigarda, to know if the set is worth or not

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>>46038932
>>46038903
http://www.gatheringmagic.com/mikelinnemann-031516-repainting-the-iconic/

Too bad he didn't went with the version that showed her back.

>>46039157
do your fingers just do that involuntarily now or do you actually enjoy it

>>46039224

what do you mean senpai?

>>46039176
SOILED IT! SOILED IT!

>>46038726
The Secretist was the ebook, but it's definitely canon.

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>>46038203
>>46037934
:^)

>>46039557
That's quite alright. Got any borderless, anon?

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>>46039593
Sure

>>46039175
This and Thalia. I had no real hopes for any of the rest of the set.

>>46039722
are we getting a new Thalia?

>>46037874
Nah, they all died during Guildpact in a big showdown with each other. Only survivor had it's spine broken and got mercy-killed by a guy at the start of Dissension to extract some sweet dragon spinal fluids.

Those were sentient dragons, unlike Hypersonic dragon and the like. Niv is the only sentient dragon left on Ravnica.

>>46039614
only mana vault alter I've seen and liked, but the title area is weak

should've made it an even rectangle-ish shape instead of following the letters

>>46039736
Hopefully she's a deformed vampire mutant

>>46039063
Heir is the only one who transforms, so far to capitalize on the flip

>>46036387
There are ways in green to make this a viable commander, but it is very build around. Still better than Multani, though.

>>46039864
I was going to run Elusive Tormentor for reusable discard

>>46035568
It works for Israel.

>>46035969
>blue is their favorite color
>is literally the worst color in both Modern and Standard

>>46039614
Oh, now remember you. Bretty gud. Keep doing that.

I should get into alters, too. I even had a girl who wanted to share her colors with me because those tend to get pretty expensive.

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>>46034528

Anyone got the Pepe Arlinn Kord?

>>46035546

No, no. Gossamer is the name of the WEREWOLF.

>>46034850
Who wants to bet our Hannibal proxi will be the Mayor of Hanweir?

>>46036162
>>46036207
blue in Modern is dead, in Standard it's only a splash color, there is no real top tier blue deck in either format

>>46034971
Innocent Blood reprint never.

>>46040080
Just use paints for miniatures. Around $2.5 a bottle. Will last you for years.

>>46035546
PLOT TWIST
Gossamer is the demon

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>>46034946
>Odric LUNARCH Marshal
You were at my side all along
my true mentor
MY SHINING MOONLIGHT

>>46040185
>Around $2.5 a bottle.

Yeah. Maybe on your side of the ocean. :^(

>>46035109
Planeswalkers, one in a billion living beings have a spark, and among them, only an handful ignite.
>4 walkers native to the smallest and least densely populated plane of the multiverse.
Yeah, WotC would do it.

>>46035109
We already have a vampire planeswalker, anon.

>>46040245
doesnt that just make it seem like we already have too many walkers.

>>46039949
Not a legend anon

>>46040226
but odric's sword is just a sword though, nothing special

>>46040275
I mean, it glows

that's pretty special

>>46035109
As likely as emrakul becoming a cute girl who joins the gatewatch as the token "redeemed villain" character

>>46038903
I love it. She looks happy.

>>46040245
Sorin is thousands of years old though. who else is a planeswalker from innistrad besides him and dykewolf?

>>46035604
That'd be fun but everyone (except Trump supporters it seems) knows wall jumpers are niggers, the mexicans are experts at digging holes.
You can build a whole urban youth center in the tunnel el chapo dug out of jail.

>>46040344
Tibalt

>>46040344
Tibalt and Vronos

>>46040358
>>46040372
ah you are right. well shit.

>>46036121
I want Tezzeret to show up just to bully Jace.

Each plane should have at least one oldwalker native to to it, right? Theros seems to be the only one lacking it

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New Sigarda WHEN

>>46039736
God I hoped so, but after the spoilers so far? God I hope not.

>>46040463
Hixus' mentor might have been an old walker. But that's the closest thing Theros might have.

>>46034946
>No bushido
Dammit.

>>46040245
Aren't they more frequent though?, I thought it was a one in a million and that most never ignited.

>>46034850
BUILD

>>46040530
Are you suggesting that some of these cards aren't interesting, at least compared to the nine months of utter boredom during Origins-BFZ-OGW?

>>46040463
What? No, there are way more planes than oldwalkers in the current lore. What oldwalkers are native to Ravnica, Lorwyn, Kamigawa, Alara Mirrodin (no, Karn isn't actually a native)?

Might have missed something obvious but I'm pretty sure I'm not wrong about all of them.

And this is just counting some of the planes we've "visited", there are loads of more planes that we know of.

>>46038903
>Maaster, must wee doo thiis?
>>Shut up, I'm practicing for my date with Jace tonight
>But maaster...
>>What is it, you shit-crusted fuckboy?
>I haave noo leegsss...

>>46040639
Azor I was an old walker, whether it means he was native to Ravnica or went there is not confirmed. The "Dragon planeswalker" that broke Alara into the shards might have been a native.

>>46040646
if she's practicing for a date, why is she leading

>>46039063
Because Bonesplitter was barely playable in SuiBlack and Leonin Scimitar has never been good in anything.

>>46040755
Can you picture Jace leading?

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>>46040465
hopefully tomorrow

>>46040755
Because Jace isn't a top.

>>46040755
Does Jace seem like the kind of guy that leads a dance?

>>46040777
but it doesn't fall off when it flips and when its wearer flips? and the vampire flips are good and easy to flip?

>>46040639
Not to mention planes like Vryn and Kaladesh, places we've visited we just haven't had whole sets dedicated to them. And then there's Fiora.

>>46038497
Delver. The original one.

>>46040755
Jace is the woman in this relationship.

>>46040849
And when that guy dies it costs you 3 to equip another dude.
You're putting all your egs in one basket when Grasp of Darkness and that 1W "kill target attacking shit" instant were just reprinted.

>>46040755
You know the answer, anon...

>>46040799
But will she be pure

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>>46040953
>when that guy dies
oh yeah smart guy?

>>46040799
I really want it to be named sigarda the redeemer or something like that but we already have goldnight redeemer.

>>46040755
because she learned the Futanari Spell and is about to give Jace the ole pounding he always wanted.

>>46040993
Either that or dead

>>46041029

I always thought futa was more of a UG thing.

>>46041112
well its a big black dick this time, so its black mana.

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Making George Clooney

>>46040953
3 mana to equip would mean something if RB vampires didn't curve out at 4

Rules Q, confirming kozileks return triggers from the grave if you cast a 7CMC card even if you only pay 5 mana due to conduit of ruins ability?

>>46041438
CMC does not change regardless of what you actually pay

>>46041014
You see, that would almost be a good tech if Ojutai didn't come out turn 5 and Ulamog didn't come out turn 6.

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>Descend Upon the Fishermen

Okay.

>>46041438
Yes. The trigger asks for that number in the upper right corner, not what you actually paid for your spell.

>>46040059
To be perfectly fair if all of blues tools weren't banned in modern it would be the best color.

>>46041438

Yes, because the CMC is still 7. Same way that if your mother gives blowjobs for $5, and I have a 25% off coupon, she's still a five-dollar whore.

>>46041479
>but other decks have cards!
gee thanks

>>46041498
>>46041485
>>46041477
Thought as much, thanks m8s

>>46040128
Merfolk.

>>46041485
Secret anti-anti-Merfolk flavor tech.

>>46040639
Glissa and Slobad for Mirrodin, iirc

>>46041981
Neither of those are OLDwalkers.

>>46042018
They were pre-mending

>>46041485
Fisherman is a common Christian allegory for sinners, when compared to the Shepherd (the faithful)

>>46041497
only because all the other colors' best tools are banned as well.

>>46042200
>Fisherman is a common Christian allegory for sinners

...what? Fishermen are allegorically linked to disciples, not sinners