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>>46002690
First for silently idolizing Forrest from a distance!

>>46002690

...Hm. Something to discuss with the party next session.

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Neat! new Pixiv Fantasia updates.
Will post em here.

Here's a topic of discussion though:
"What would you do if You (the player inhabitting the body of your character, along with metaknowledge of the system and world) were an adventurer in Golarion?

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>>46002690

I was enjoying the druid conversation, so...

>>46001817
>I've always wanted to make a druid, but I have the same problem with druids that I do with paladins. It's like...
>>m-muh nature
>instead of
>>m-muh lawful good
>But either way they seem very one-dimensional to me. I know that's not the case, and that interesting characters of both classes can be created, but I don't know how.
>Tell me about your druid. Sell me on druids.

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>>46002761

>>46002761
Head for Numeria, on account of knowing how the technology actually works.

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>>46002785

>>46002761

Head to Absalom, the Test of the Starstone can't be harder than a SL1 Dark Souls run

>>46002778

I don't know, I think >>46002605 may be the height to which we all can only aspire.

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>>46002813

>>46002778
See
>>46002771

>>46002771
>Man, we had a whole thread on this a day or two ago.
>Druids are everything that has to do with nature. Survival of the Fittest? Druid. Blood sacrifice and getting sky clad during the full moon? Druid. Plague bringer walking vermin infestation? Druid. Literally any animist priest? Druid. Rambo-esque commando? Druid. That ringleader who seems to be extra close to the animals and workers? Druid. Thulsa Doom? Druid.
>There is literally an archetype that gets rid of muh nature in order to make you a social climber and face stealer called the Urban Druid.

The problem with all of this is that none of them are very compelling characters on their own. They function well as NPC's, sure, but they're all still very one-dimensional.

>muscle druid
>wolf druid
>rat druid
>westboro baptist druid
>muscle druid again
>bone druid
>street druid

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>>46002840

LotLK Report, comin' atcha!

LAST SESSION RECAP:
>we found the norn we were tracking into adlet territory
>dead
>but she had a wand of cure light wounds and a prophecy about how we were totally gonna be kings, so that's nice
>we mourn her, the huldra getting closer to displaying an emotion that wasn't sass than she has all game
>moving on
>Murder the shit out of more adlets, one of which looked leaderish - not that we had a chance to find out, because the witchwolf decapitated him with her shield, Captain America-style, in the first round
>color spray color spray
>rescue some prisoners, session ends

THIS SESSION:
>proceed onward, find a room lined with a stone that dampens sound waves. Huldra makes the ID check, attempts to look cool while explaining, fails because she has to scream at the top of her lungs to pass on the information
>hilarious misunderstandings all around
>hilarious misunderstandings all around promptly stop when the Ulfen realizes there's a bunch of sleeping adlets in the next room
>oh fuck
>phew, we didn't wake them up
>coup de gras
>color spray color spray then ones that're left
>Travel down a bunch of stairs behind a waterfall (some more gracefully than others, the witchwolf loses her shield in the process)
>MORE ADLETS, the chelaxian cleans the fuck up here
>it's almost like they're goblin analogues in this AP
>see a patch of fungus at the end of a hallway, growing on a bunch of adlet bodies
>nope.jpg.avi.gif
>know (nature) check for shiggles, at least they're not those vegepygmy things. probably.
>give the shrooms a wide berth, come across the adlet leader, one of his shamans, and a couple of underlings
>GOOD THING WE HAVE THAT CLW WAND
>shitty rolls all around, like seriously four or five 1s in a row
>ooc discussion about how crit fumbles are bad and dumb
>enemies rolling just as badly as us, at least, which keeps us from getting minced when the leader (an initiator) starts busting out moves
cont.

>>46002761
Is that an Android Frankenstein loli?
HNNNG

>>46002922
That's why you ascribe personality to them beyond a single facet of their existence.

Same with any other character.

I mean, how do you make a Fighter, Wizard, or Alchemist a compelling character? The issue isn't druids man.

>>46002778
Ever play a Far Cry game? Yeah, do a druid like that. Strip away all the gloss and sprinkles of whatever "modern" society is in the setting and make a character who's been forcefully or willingly reverted to someone who's living as an example of mankind in it's "natural" state.

Throw in some bullshit magic tatoos or animal-command powers and you've got a druid.

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>>46002690
Hey I recognize that one guy on the top right

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>>46002690
Here's more pics of the same army.

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>>46003035

>>46002761

Get used to having more than two arms and turning myself into a monster with powerful drugs, I guess.

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>>46003051

>>46002980
>kitsune runs out of spells, starts peppering the adlets with arrows, doesn't actually do a bad job at it
>Ulfen takes hits like a boss, huldra pokes him with the CLW wand like a boss
>no one goes down this time
>maybe we've erased the shame of tpking to the two random-ass mooks at the cave entrance
>nah
>glorious victory, everyone levels, the promise of loot and role playing awaits us next session

So how did your last session go, /pfg/?

>>46002995
So far-cry Primal?

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>>46003067
This pic kinda reminds me of a summoner and his Eidolon.

Which reminds me - There SHOULD be a construct eidolon archetype you could slap rockets and cannons on.
If Construct Rider gives your a zoid, this should give you an Iron Man suit

>>46002818
Hell, my character's already a pyromancer...

>>46002995
This. To some extent. I find that being a druid is more interesting when it's less about worshipping nature and more about rejecting society or civilization.

Because DnD is DnD, doing this gives you magical powers. Whatever.

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>>46003084

>>46002770
"I can't believe everyone rolled monk."

>>46002922
Okay? Anon said Druids are "muh nature". Those are examples of things that are beyond the standard hippy druid.

If this is that anon, then you're being awfully picky. But here:

You are the child of a rich merchant who worships a dead god. By partaking in the flesh of a customer, you are able to take on that customer's form. You are able to get these customers with your incredible magical Charisma. Once you have amassed enough riches, you can then take on the form of animals with which you take your pound of flesh.

You have suckered the spirits of the land to aid and protect you, with strange fetishes and materials acting as your bargaining chips.

There. You're a spiritual Shylock who also eats the essences of people and animals.

>>46003081
Kind of. Although, essentially all the Far Cry games since 3 have (maybe even farther back than that) have been about what happens to people when their humanity starts to be replaced by their savage sides. Primal is kind of a bad example actually, because that's what's needed to actually survive in that setting as a baseline, you don't get that sense that anyone in Primal has actually lost or given up something to be the way they are. In most typical fantasy settings, druids are the exception, not the rule.

Any DSP Dev lurking this thread?
I have a question regarding the Aegis's Ranged Attack customization.
1) Can I add weapon enhancements to it? How?
2) Can I increase its attack range?

But really, they should have made a Psionics Augmented: Aegis since this class also needs a good boost as well.

>>46003282
Aegis is one of the most solid classes in existence, and only gets more with every goddamn thing DSP puts out, since they can gank from all of it.

>>46003282
>Psionics Augmented: Aegis

They could start with a Gifted Blade Aegis archetype.

>>46003326
Don't forget - War Soul Aegis with Iron Tortoise, Broken Blade, and Eternal Guardian

>>46003142
3 was definitely the start of that, 2 was about being a merc in an African war zone, you were supposed to be a little crazy from the outset, 1 is about killing genetically modified super monkeys on some shit hole pacific island.

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>>46003282
Short version: no, and no.

Long version: Ranged Attack was the result of some well-intentioned but ultimately very poor design decisions on the parts of the bossmen that we've all learned lessons from, but is now in that awkward territory where it's too crystallized to replace. We are all /so very sorry/.

I can't make any definite statements on if there'll be more or better support for ranged aegii in the future, but I believe Host of Heroes might be able to help out a little?

>>46003349
Damn shame. Was hoping to slap enhancements on them until they resembled Ironman's Hand Blasters

Have you considered throwing in a Psionics Augmented: Aegis though? Or the would the avenues of ideas be far too limited compared to Soulknife?

Thanks anyways, Gareth

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>>46003326
>>46003346
>Gifted Blade Aegis
Could be good, but remember that the Aegis actually needs those power points to augment his suit. Unless that archetype removes the Augment Suit class feature.

>War Soul Aegis
Definitely good. In fact, I'd want this a lot for reasons.
>Iron Tortoise, Broken Blade, and Eternal Guardian
Too defensive. If you played an Aegis, you'd know they use their armors to BOOST mobility

>>46003383
Not a problem anon. As far as PsiAug: Aegis, it's an idea that's been bandied about but it's not precisely high on the priority list, primarily because of >>46003303

Though to expand on that, it's honestly /really easy/ to get inspiration for Aegis stuff. Aegis gets a lot of material because it lends itself so readily to cool ideas with low-impact availability...which, admittedly, we have to keep an eye on.

Still, between customizations and archetypes, Aegis is wonderful to design in and for, which is why it gets so much love.

>>46003471
You know, I never really had the Aegis gel with me (Synthesist Summoner caught the Kamen Rider/Guyver bug for me first) but it's cool that you're open about just digging designing for them.

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>>46003077
>>46002980
>because the witchwolf decapitated him with her shield, Captain America-style, in the first round
>the witchwolf loses her shield in the process
Does she have a shield-fetish or something? Also,
>using a shield in Pathfinder

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>>46003433
What if you got an Aegis that is stylized after mecha anime?

Give it a Rocket Punch, a Chest Beam attack, Machine Gun Fingers, A Rider Kick, a Pile Bunker and a Buster Sword

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>>46003648
My last Aegis was pretty much pic related. I never read DC so my friend had to point it out.

>>46003648
Guys! What if...

Aegis with a transformation sequence? Like there's a skin mode, and then there's an Animal mode and a Titan mode?

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>>46003648
I don't see why everything should be bipeds, though!

>>46003471
Get out of here with your weeabo shit namefag.

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>>46003727

lmao

such a low effort bait

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>>46003727
>Weeaboo
>What is Iron Man, Superman, literally any other character that has a super-suit and powers
>Namefag
>being this new

You sure showed me, here's your requisite smug anime girl dot jiff.

>>46003720
>Gradius Option Aegis
Ha! Now we're PsyArm Aegis.

>>46002761
Would probably find a quaint town to make my home base and travel out.

(I'd either be a Protean Bloodline Sorcerer or a Druid)

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>>46003727

>>46002980
Every time I read adlets here my brain thinks aglets. It's a very weird mental image.

>>46003748

I don't know, Anon, she looks pretty genuinely happy. Not getting much of a smug vibe off of her.

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>>46003751
Actually those are mirror images made of charged shots.

Also the T-301 is kinda different - pic related, and from another series

>>46003760
I know, right? I have to keep checking to make sure I didn't write aglets.

>>46003641
She fights with her shield, anon. Also with a cutlass, but mostly with the shield. It's pretty terrifying.

>>46003791
How is a shield terrifying? Aren't they usually pretty bad? What class is she?

>>46003798
>How is a shield terrifying?
Clearly you've never played a Warder or a Shield Champion Brawler

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>>46003727

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>>46003764
It's Nyarly. Nyarly is always smug.

>>46003819
But IS she either of those classes? Or has this skinwalker somehow managed to make a shield useful through some other method?

>>46003843
She's got initiating (myrmidon) and uses some sort of strikes with it, but I'm not familiar enough with the system to elaborate more, sorry.

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>>46003838
>S4 never
Why did you leave us, kuuko?

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What would an SAO based AP look like? Each floor being a single level? A floor being 2 levels each with a level up after the midboss?

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One last thing before I head to bed.

With the exception of NPC stat blocks for the final section, which will be written during playtesting, Lords of the Mists: the Midway Faire is just about ready to be released into the wild for playtesting. I'm going to rope some unfortunate victi- I mean volunteers into giving it an editing pass, clean up some of the wording, and then get that fired away within the week if at all possible - fuck, /tomorrow/ if I can arrange for it.

Bean sidhe will be part of that; it does not currently reflect changes based on the feedback I've already gotten.

>>46003868
>What would an SAO based AP look like?
Absolute shit.
You are deluding yourself if you think SAO has any relevance of a plot in tabletop when its own main motivation is dungeon crawling to the very top of the boss' tower.

>>46003282
>>46003349

If you take the akashic options and get Eyes of the Hawkguard, you can increase the Ranged Attack's range increment.

http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?409134-Dreamscarred-Press-Presents-Akashic-Mysteries-Thread-2

>>46003905
It's main motivation is harem anime, really. It masquerades as MMO action adventure.

>>46003282
>>46003349
>>46003972

I forgot to add, some of the PoW options from Initiator's Soul may also increase the range increment, but these can often be temporary.

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>>46003978
True.
In an ironic twist, KonoSuba is a better 'trapped in a game' anime despite not taking itself seriously.

Notably, reminds me of Zettai Bouei Levia-tan anime (aka, those baka dragongirls)

What are some good classes for a fighter with good charisma to take a couple level dip in?

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>>46002690
>'Your party will never be this tacticolor coordinated'

What's a good clan color anyways?

>>46004035
Paladin/Antipaladin for the Cha bonus to saves
Lore Oracle for the Cha bonus to AC

Eldritch Heritage Abyssal to get a STR boost
Eldritch Heritage Sylvan to get a free animal companion (FUCK errata)

Steelfist Commando with sharding fists, how to? Is it as easy as Commando with Broken Blade?

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>>46004037

Red if you believe in GUTS
Blue if you believe in scheming
Green if you believe in MUH PEOPLE
Teal if you believe in outscheming the schemers

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>>46004037
White

>>46004050
>FUCK errata
Does any of Paizo's fucking errata even make any sense? I purposely ignore most of them because of how majority of it shit over martials even worse.

>>46004137
I thought the nerf to Divine Protection was a good call.
I mean, they nerfed it way too much, but it did need a nerf.

>>46004160
Nah, I ignored that errata too.

http://pathfinder.wikia.com/wiki/Nirvana_dragon

So does anyone at all know what the fuck one of these is or where I can find info on it or other planar dragons?

>>46004179
>Makes a tier 2 caster even more SAD

just as bad as paizo themselves

>>46004187
The nerf was terrible.
Here's my logic:
>"who cares if this also benefits the bard and oracle, they already have access to spells that makes their saves really good after all. Might as well keep the feat un-eratta'd so it could at least benefit most martials that have only one good save (fighter) or one very crippling low save that could potentially fuck the entire party if he fails it (barbarian)"

>>46004210

What? It used to require 2nd level divine casting

It was 100% a feat to make oracles better and nothing else

L M A O

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>>46004013
KonoSuba isn't 'trapped in a game" though its just an alternate reality that just happens to run on RPG logic

>>46004392

Just like Dungeon Deai tbqh

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>>46003033
>big katana
>shortsword
>western full plate

>>46004532
>Implying the Japanese didn't buy tons of nanban plate

>>46004532
You have to understand that Pixiv Fantasia is a world of make-believe where the western and japanese world coexist peacefully in a world of swords and sorcery because they have more pressing shit to attend to like dragons and evil liches.

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>>46004037
White and blue
Best Clan coming through

>>46004564

And lacquered it up to make it sleek and shiny

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>>46002690
>>46002761
>>46002785
> Danbooru filenames
Are you not disgusted with how much of a pleb you are?

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>>46004631
I care this much, anon

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Ah fuck. I took too long to write this all up, and posted it in the last thread. FUCK.

So here's my idea for a player race. For my campaign/world I'm working on, players will have access to these guys. Their name is the Seer Kind, a placeholder until I figure some OC donut steel weaboo sounding name. They're pretty much the Miraluka from KOTOR2, the race of the best waifu. I mean, psychic people with no eyes is just a great fantasy idea, I think. So here's my stats for them. I realize that they got some pretty powerful stuff, so if you can think of anymore penalties for them, tell me so I can slap them on.

http://pastebin.com/KXsXgkxV

So yeah. The idea is that they're a race of eye-less, "kind of," humans that are pretty Psychic and have a history as being Oracles, fortune-tellers, Seers. Today, they live in hidden communities, and sometimes deliver cryptic fortunes and messages to people. They study the stars, the past and the future, being quite detached from the Present.

Historically, they have a history of being a big evil empire that enslaved their human subjects, with the Seer Kind forming the ruling class. So the hate against them is somewhat justified. And there are even smaller hold outs of evil Seer Kind out there.

So that's my shitty OC donut steel race.

>>46004665
Can you please work on the wording? The stupid hurts my brain.

You put too much emphasis in your third eye bullshit, that you could sound less autistic if you pored over the wizard spell list to find a similar suitable effect.
You didn't even specify how it works against obstacles and cover.

Window to the soul really needs a rewording. And its pretty much similar to DSP's Eiremian SLA.

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>>46004647
I wish you a speedy and torturous death, senpai.

My party needs a scout and trapfinder so I was thinking of going ranger with the trapper archetype.

Holy shit a bunch of these traps are awful. What was paizo thinking when they made this? Are there any good ones that aren't garbage that will be negated by basic CR 5 defense abilities?

>>46004722
http://www.d20pfsrd.com/traits/campaign-traits/mummy-s-mask/trap-finder

>>46004115
This is TERA tier.

>>46004722
Make your own trap instead. Portable reuseable CLW trap etc

>>46004722
You have to understand that Ranger, Fighter and Rogue are all NPC classes. You, as a PC, should be using PC classes. That said, roll a wizard or alchemist if you want to be good at traps. Alchemist traps makes you wish you were dead and Wizard traps hurt so bad, your next of kin would literally feel it

>>46004783
>Ranger, Fighter and Rogue are all NPC classes
This bait is so poor, I can't even bother finding a relevant bait image for it.

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>>46004806
>implying its bait
If you want to fighter, roll PoW
If you want to ranger, roll a Hunter
if you want to rogue, roll a wizard/stalker/bard/anythingbutrogue

>>46004838
> PoW
Prisoner of war?

>>46004783
What about Psychic trap? Node of Blasting and such.

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>>46004838
>PoW
Not every GM is going to allow 3pp anon though PoW is my favorite DSP book line though one can hope.
Knight Chandler a cute!

I'm only familiar with core. How do witches and arcanists work?

>>46005045
Witches are the Druid to Wiz/Sorc
By that I mean they have a more specialized spell list focusing on enchantment/illusion/natural magic
Your choice of patron expands this
But otherwise they are Int based prepared casters with a familiar that counts as their spellbook
The big draw is Hexes which are often powers that replicate spells are used to debuff/cost no slots

Arcanists are an abomination
Int based casting from the Sorc/Wiz set
They prepare a list of spells, then cast spontaneously from that list (effectively getting the best of both worlds)
They also have a pool and exploits that can range from increasing DCs to a free metamagic feat that you change once per day

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>>46005045
I'm not familiar with arcanists that much myself but as for Witches.

They are an Int based 9th level caster with a prepared spell list. What makes them different from the wizard is that they prepare their spells through their familiar and not a spell book.
In addition to their familiar they choose a patron, an unknown source of their power that revolves around a central theme (speed, enchantment, etc...) Which provides bonus spells.
Another thing that Witches get is hexes, little standard action debuffs that weaken your enemies (misfortune, evil eye, etc...) or empower you allies (fortune), there's some utility hexes that aid the witch on their own (flight, prehensile hair, etc...)
Their spell list is OK, not great in my opinion.

>>46005045
>witches
Save-or-Die the class.

>>46002761
>inhabiting the body of my character

Which one? Because that could easily change a lot.

>Andoren Brawler
>Chelish Dhampir Inquisitor
>River-Kingdoms Sylph Wildblooded Sorceress
>Ulfen Changeling Skald VMC Oracle
>the Brawler's mother, an Oracle
>Irriseni Aasimar Chosen One Paladin

>>46005366
Rolling-on-floor-cackling the class.

>>46002761
Join The Wayward Path and continue browsing 4chan.

>>46004714
Thanks for the feedback.

I need to simplify how the Psychic blindsight works, I realize now I got too wordy about it. I'll strip out a bunch of the rest.

Can someone clarify I'm reading this Augmented Blade thing properly?

>Improved Psicrystal Augment - Magical or psionically enchanted weapons that possess special abilities that are not normally on the soulknife’s enhanced mind blade list (such as bane) are temporarily added to that list for use by the augmented blade when using his psicrystal augment class feature, and the enhancement bonus applied to the weapon by that class feature increases by +1. The augmented blade must be at least 4th level to select this blade skill.

Does this essentially say that if you augment a weapon with an ability that's not on the soulknife list, you can temporarily add it to your list and you get a free +1 to help pay for it (If you want to)?

And this means that even though Augmented Blade overrides any magic abilities a weapon has and treats it as masterwork, you can get use out of having a weapon of Bane (Vegetables) because it gives you a free +1 without needing to add Bane (Vegetables) to your weapon?

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>It's a phenomenon called moral balancing, and it explains why religious people, environmental activists, etc. are more likely to shoplift.
>religious people are more likely to shoplift

That's just wrong Jessica, there's a direct correlation between people that actively participate in religious activities and decreased crime rates, especially in-regards to theft.

Why are Paizo employees so hostile?

I like Paladin as a class, but I would absolutely loathe being the white-knight "everybody has to get along and obey every stupid law in the kingdom" guy.

Tell me /tg/, how do I be a Paladin without also being Javert?

>>46005997
By being a high-level magus.
By only following the letter of the code of conduct.
By being a paladin of freedom.

>>46005977

Where was that?

>>46006013
On her Twitter account.

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>>46005997
By being the paladin of this guy.

But seriously, Paladin are more "lead by example" type of people. Forcing everyone to act like you dictate would be consider Evil, since it's a type of Tyranny.

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Supernal Feast

>You sup on the blood of your ancestors to fuel your fury.

>Prerequisites: Con 15, aasimar.

>Benefit: Whenever you are adjacent to a good outsider that takes bleed or blood drain damage, you gain 1 temporary hit point as you bathe in the celestial being's gore. Furthermore, as a full-round action, you can feast on the fallen body of a good outsider that has been dead no longer than 24 hours. When you do, you regain 1 temporary hit point per Hit Die the outsider possessed at a rate of 1 hit point per minute. Temporary hit points gained from this feat last 1d4 hours.
Who comes up with this shit?

>>46006186

I do like that guy. Mostly because they manage to make him very much NOT execution-happy. He'll do it without hesitation if needed but it's never the first option.

>>46005997
It's okay for Paladin to kidnapped, torture and trumpeting innocent people. That isn't very white-knight-ish.

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>>46006198
>as you bathe in the celestial being's gore

>>46006198
More importantly, who comes up with it and why is it /terrible/?

>>46006202
That's because JJ didn't touch that book.

>>46006217
>past tense
>present tense
>present perfect progressive tense

>>46006239
I'm pretty bad at grammar. Please fix that sentence for me. anon-sensei.

>>46006221
Because it's for aasimar. The supposed to be inherently good guys.

>>46006254
It's just a matter of keeping them all in the same tense. Easiest would be:

It's okay for a Paladin to kidnap, torture and trumpet innocent people.

90% of the time if you have different suffixes like -ing and -ed in the same sentence, you're going to be off the mark.

>>46006239
To be fair, English grammar is almost as bloated as 3.x.
>>46006254
You should have used the same tense for all three. "to kidnap, torture and trumpet". I think that's how most languages work?

>>46006271
You're absolutely right. English is a terrible language. I only noticed because I just had a test on this stuff like last week. Honestly, I'm pretty shit at grammar too.

>>46006270
Thanks

>>46006271
My language doesn't have past-tense and such. We just add specific timing into the sentence.
dat feel when my language is like 5e

>>46006286
>English is a terrible language
It isn't terrible, It's a standard Germanic language. Most English grammatical rules are completely fabricated and is comparatively no more "flawed" than any other language; It's just more popular.

>>46006329
>"The problem with defending the purity of the English language is that English is about as pure as a cribhouse whore. We don’t just borrow words; on occasion, English has pursued other languages down alleyways to beat them unconscious and rifle their pockets for new vocabulary."
>--James D. Nicoll

>>46006353
Check out some lexical distance charts, this isn't unique behaviour either. People say this about Russian in Slavic speaking countries.

>>46006409
I was mostly being hyperbolic and sharing a funny quote. But if I find myself with a lazy afternoon I'll do just that.

So... any subscriber getting their pdf copy of UI yet? I wants to see Magical Girl and Grey Paladin!

>>46005997
Just follow a personal code of honor as determined by your faith and god, ultimately HE is the only one you answer to.

'Lawful' doesn't mean you have to obey unjust or outright evil laws of every country that allows things like slavery and baby-eating whatnot. I don't know why GMs think that this is some ultimate trap. Your god should only expect you to obey laws made by just and legitimate rule, as determined by you, your code, and your faith's doctrine.

Always do the right thing, even if laws of man are telling you otherwise. Especially then.

Of course, always talk to your GM beforehand and let him know that's how you roll as a paladin. If he's against it from the onset then just play something similar without a falling/failing clause.

>>46005977
Paizo has been hiring human garbage for a while now. What's the source on your greentext?

>>46006468

https://twitter.com/Delafina777/status/709023861145088000

Her twitter.

>>46006450
Does magical girl even get, you know, magic? Anyway, I predict it to be shit and be worse than aegis, soulknife and/or metafogre.
>I wants
You again!

Stalkers are fun, having a 14-20 threat range on a katana is weab as shit.

>>46005977
>>46006468
Nevermind, found it. For fuck's sake, moral people who do shit like shoplift are by definition not moral in the first place. She's conflating overt religiousness with the underpinnings of religion itself.

>>46006453
>'Lawful' doesn't mean you have to obey unjust or outright evil laws of every country that allows things like slavery and baby-eating whatnot.

They shouldn't immediately cut down the first slaver they see either, slavery isn't (yet) considered a great evil. It's perfectly fine being a abolitionists though.

>>46002761
Hope I'm not stuck in a stupid class.
Head to Numeria and start working on some tech stuff. Maybe take the test of the Starstone once I get all my gear ready.

>>46006198
Did a twelve year-old write this?

>>46006486
It gets unchained summoner casting.
So it must be at least tier 3.

Whether interesting or not, we will see.

>>46006486
*want ;_;

>>46006520
Wasn't advocating that either. Just that a paladin has to understand the world around him and not be played in a vacuum, like most people do. He needs to understand that if he's going to a land where the law is fundamentally against his code that he either needs to be prepared to wage a shadow war or just not go in the first place/get out as soon as possible. He should still work to slowly change this problem however he can, even going to the root of it if possible, but he needs to know what he can and cannot do.

Keep in mind that we play the 'paladin' as a class in a RPG using basic modern morals and the paladin's code often mirrors that. Slavery and forced servitude (as opposed to willingly submitting to service or done as just punishment) being bad in general is part of it. Now, I'm not here to argue if that's a good or bad thing or if I agree with it. I'm just saying that 'paladin' in the rule book in most settings is built to be closer to modern morals/ethics than as they actually were back then. Since we're talking about a paladin in the context of Pathfinder (in a PF thread), most view slavery as an evil thing, a view often backed by the system and setting itself.

Not saying it's badwrongfun if you want to play a shining knight character in a setting with sanctioned slavery who doesn't see it as wrong (and therefore no need to look the other way).

>>46002761
>Human Sorcerer (Sylvan) 11, Mythic Tier 3
Retire to a city and spend my days perfecting modern comforts like the toilet, buying resurrection insurance in case I get caught up in plot and flying my Roc companion.

>>46002761
Cry, because even I DO manage to find my way back to earth., it's only the 1940s.

So probably engage in the risky business of finding a High Level Wizard to cast Interplanetary Teleport on me and also secure a method of time travel. I wonder how many times you could potentially manage a Time Hop Power, and how "far" you could get doing nothing but skipping time.

>>46006679
I thought Slavery was a Law v Chaos thing, not a Good vs Evil thing in Golarion.

I plan on using planar binding to summon a vrock into a magic circle (augmented to stop teleportation), then kill the vrock to obtain a corpse. I will then animate the skeleton as a bloody skeleton with use of a voidstick for a regenerating monster with 5 natural attacks.

My question is, how should I go about soling the vrock? I don't know if I can count on my party members for support, and I am a 9th level (soon to be 10th level) wizard.

I was considering just spamming enervation but I'm not sure if that will be fast enough.

Any advice?

My GM told me there's a feat that gives you slow fall like monk, is he bullshiting me?

Do you ERP with your DM when the issue of romance between PC's and NPC's comes up?
I do.

>>46006980
Even if there was one, it would be shit.
Item of at-will feather fall is only 2000g anyway.

>>46006812
It is if you view it strictly as whether or not it is legal and permissible regardless how people feel about it.

It stops being that when people start to view the ontological implications under it.

We see this on Golarion when just about every country (Cheliax, Irisen, Nidal) and past regime (ancient Osirion, Thassilon) that held slaves are associated with evil. Those like Jalmery and Katapesh that aren't considered wholly evil tend to have those elements of them associated with evil. Every spell and magic item associated with slavery has the evil descriptor. Slaver races like gnolls and derro are almost exclusively evil. You'll also notice that all the deities, devils, and demon lords with slavery in their portfolios seem to be evil (and monsters, Leng and the Dominion of the Black comes to mind as well).

I'm not aware of much slavery in outer planes of lawful good or neutral good. Most labor seems to be done willingly or by automatons/golems.

>>46006980
Doesn't matter, unless your entire character theme involves repeatedly falling from high places, it's not worth a feat.

Just buy these.
http://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic-items/wondrous-items/wondrous-items/a-b/boots-of-the-cat
Remember normal fall damage caps at 10d6 so it's 10 damage max per fall.

Or maybe a few of these for when you absolutely can't take damage.
http://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic-items/wondrous-items/wondrous-items/r-z/snapleaf

>>46007031
It's 20d6 max falling damage, which is still only 20. You're thinking of damage from falling objects, which colossal (largest) is 10d6 base damage but can be modified up or down with variables.

http://www.d20pfsrd.com/gamemastering/environment/environmental-rules#TOC-Falling

Is the Agent of the Grave PrC worth taking for a dedicated Necromancer?

>>46004843
Path of War is what i think he meant.

It's a splatbook

Ok, as a dude who only really knows the core rules, what splat should I move onto next, and what splat should I just avoid? I like buying books, so really I just wanna know what the essentials are for my pathfinder library.

>>46006521
Misread before. Stuck as my own character. Being ForeverDM just bites me in the ass then as I have no character to be.

>>46007456
Not to sound like a fanboy, but pretty much everything Dreamscarred Press has released is fucking great.

>>46007456
Have you ever heard of d20pfsrd.com?

>decide to make a humanoid boss for my players
>they're level 5
>tfw i just optimized a level 6 cavalier who does 55 damage on average on a mounted charge
>the players are completely unoptimized and this cavalier will absolutely destroy each in one hit
How do I make a fun humanoid boss that won't rape my players?

>>46007696
Make a level 12 ranger named Hursk. Wait, you said fun, nevermind.

>>46007696
You don't. PF is horrible at powerful, solo boss fights. Instead, make it a non-optimized cavalier 7, plus a sprinkling of cavalier 4s, say six of them. Build all further boss fights to include minions.

>>46007736
Six level fours and a level 7 against level 5 pcs?

>>46007745
it's meant to be tough, no?

>>46007736
But that's another problem, anon. I've been here so long I can't not optimize. Willingly giving anything a shit option hurts me.

>>46007766
>I have to optimize
>Level 6 cavalier only averages 55 damage on a mounted charge attack
Dude, you are like a little baby.

>>46007766
Then pull stats from the NPC section on the d20pfsrd

>>46007745
Don't worry, those level 4s are about CR 2 each thanks to NPC ability spread and low funds compared to PC WBL.

>GM lets me rework Vile Leadership to grant more undead capacity instead of npc followers for my necromancer
>140 HD undead capacity at level 7
Dreams are real boys.
Dreams are FUCKING REAL WOOOOOOOO

>>46006261
Is it from Agents of Evil?

That might explain it as being for all those Aasimar Antipaladins who cracked under the unrealistic expectations everyone had of them.

>>46007653
If you read my post anon, you would notice the part where I said I like the books. Yes, I have used d20pfsrd. Still that site doesn't always give me a clear idea of what books different things are from.

>>46007030
>tfw once had a character concept that amounted to "some Eagle Knights broke her out of a slave ship only to find that she'd never really known anything else and found freedom confusing, so she's just sort of been drifting around trying to make sense of everything."

I am not a creative person.

>>46003077
It was pretty good, roll20 stopped fucking us. After getting our shit kicked in in the previous session we stopped critically failing everything. The monk tanked a disentigrate, then got hit by magic missile falling unconscious in an area of dead air so he died again, F.

Our alchemist ingested a spellstoring poison that made him get SPACEU RIPPAH STINGEY EYESU! and killed the boss, after going insane, the new guy and the PC lich's minion. It's kay, they're undead with regenerative properties.

The other 3 party members had means of dim dooring several times a day and got the fuck out. We came back and got our Macguffins, oversized swords, loadsa guns and a thin gold robe relating to hastur that we haven't properly identified yet, as well as new occultist spirits sketched into temple walls.

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>>46003077
>killed a dozen mites by throwing eagles and cold iron golems at them
>holy fuck look at all these webs, let's check the spot with less webs first
>my homunculus's face when suddenly six fucking giant crab spiders behind her while scouting ahead
>my GM's face when he finally realizes what having two summon-focused PC's in the party actually means

Is there a better CHA-based healmachine than an Oracle? Any 3pp.
Yeah, I know, >healing
In my games it's actually really important, because the GM has managed to make it not rocket tag and the fights actually last a decent amount of time.

>>46004210
It requires levels in Oracle or Cleric, it doesn't benefit fighters and barbarians at all.

>>46008256
Are you playing 4e with monsters that deal no damage but have fuckload of hp?
Why CHA though? Vitalist is pretty good healer. I heard good things about life sphere, but no first-hand experience with it.

>>46007897
You're also abusing the fuck out of your monkey tumour familiar right?

>>46003077
>Need to wait a week for an artifact to arrive via boat so we can escort it someplace
>Wizard spends the whole time crafting shit for people #papabless
>My Warlord and the Barbarian go around the city getting really fucking wasted and getting into fights and shit
>Stalker gets a solo adventure of infiltrating a noble's house and stealing shit
It was a nice break from the constant butt-clenching tension and action, honestly.

>>46008297
The enemies have pretty shit HP compared to the party's DPR but they're almost all humanoids with maneuvers and counters and they're all geared against us so it's a real challenge to take 'em down quickly.
CHA-based because it's Gestalt and I'm one-half Sorcerer one-half Oracle. Thinking of replacing the Oracle for a better healer if I can.

>>46008318
No, actually.
I'm an SoP necromancer.
Tell me about this familiar, though. What's so abuseable there? I'm not above changing my class completely if it's an improvement, my GM allows us to change our character's mechanics every 5 sessions so long as the RP stays the same. Death-sphere Incanter has been really good to me so far, though I have considered switching to Lichling Soul Weaver for the Charisma-to-HP thing.

>>46006271
>To be fair, English grammar is almost as bloated as 3.x.
The grammar is actually very simple and streamlined. The problem is the vocabulary that adds a fuckton of exceptions to everything.

>>46008256
Best 3pp heal machine that isn't vitalist is a Warloracle into battle templar.

Best first party heal machine is palaloracle with fey founding and life link.

>>46008392
Oops, accidentally quoted the wrong post, it was originally supposed to be for Chaikaculus >>46008250 sorry.

>Tell me about this familiar, though. What's so abuseable there?

It effectively doubles your action economy again when combined with poisoner's gloves.

Interesting I'm completely unsure how a Promethean Alchemical Necromancer would work, is "Alchemical Zombie" a extract? would you get a combined HD pool?

>>46008504
Ah, it's one of the poisoner's gloves mememachines.
No worries, misquotes happen.

>>46008318
>>46008504
>originally meant for chaikaculus
>abusing monkey tumor familiar
>tfw only level 3

Not far enough along to consider getting one of those. My next discovery is going straight to getting my homunculus weapon proficiencies, and I need use my next haul to fund making boro beads and an anatomy doll in order to keep our dhampir alive. I can only hope I'll have enough downtime to make all the stuff our party needs.
I also kind of dislike the flavor of tumor familiar, but after checking mechanics and watching Parasyte I could probably stomach taking it, as long as I can make it a valet.

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>3rd level
>30 PB
>All Paizo content allowed
>PoW and PoW:E allowed
>Commonplace firearms
>Setting is vaguely post-Napoleonic, maybe even the dawn of Victorian

If I wanted to play the very model of a modern major-general, what class should I be looking at and what feats should I invest in?

>>46009225

Expert.

>>46009225
Expert, Skill Focus: Knowledge(Martial), Profession(Bureaucrat), and a social skill of your choice.

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>m-muh nature

>>46009375

I don't know, I think Knowledge (Martial) could be tricky. Too many ranks, and he might be able to tell the difference between a mauser rifle and a javelin.

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>>46009375
>>46009274
>>46009453

Okay, but what should I actually make if I wanted to play a proper highborn twat that will probably end up looking like a dehorsed cuirassier?

>>46009534
Aristocrat instead of expert.

Can Sorcerer output negative energy damage reliably?

I was running the first book of my adventure path for people online. It felt like getting them to do anything was pulling teeth. I had to poke and prod them, and prompt them to attempt anything.

Honestly I might want to just advertise on /pfg/ for play testers.

Hell I pitched it here before, could just do it again.

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>>46009758
>Hell I pitched it here before, could just do it again.

Pitch away.

>>46009758
Shit, I'm interested.
What method do you use to play, and what's the time zone?

>>46009534
Well I guess you want to be a commander, so I'd say Warlord.

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>>46009758

>>46002690
>The only person whose armor is showing a lot of skin is the only female in the group

I mean, I don't mind sexy unrealistic armor at all, but I mind when only one gender is wearing it.

>>46009800
>>46009794
I use roll20 and am in PST. The Adventure Path is made to accommodate a variety of alignments, but leans neutral.

I've posted the shitty unedited player's guide before. I have an edited copy, but not on this PC.

At the beginning of the game you are a set of individuals on the western edge of the nation. Disappearances have been spiriting people away from farmsteads, growing worse until entire towns are vanished in the night. You, as a group, need a vested interest in this disappearances.

The world itself is freezing, small nations clinging to the shores of a volcanic sea. The overarching plan actually had to pass through every nation on the Streaming Sea, and eventually move beyond it. Large portions of the game will be spent in back alley organized crime intrigue, with political strife.

I am unsure how much of the overall plot to reveal to players, but I can explain a system in the adventure path.

"Pieces of Truth" and "Realizations". Essentially there are objects in the adventure path, pieces of information, and people who have assigned "truth" values. These truths put you along several advancement tracks towards realizations. These realizations give you insight to the background happenings that drive the plot. Each piece of truth has associated skill checks to unlock it's value to put towards your total. Once you go over thresholds important NPCs (or the players depending on if they take a specific prestige class introduced in book 3) can garner realizations.

It's a way to insensitive grabbing what ever information you can and giving it to your contacts.

If you want I can go ahead and explain the entire plot outline of the 6 books.

I'm rambling, but I should also mention that it uses DSP NPC and players are blanket ok'd to use published DSP content.

>>46009971
>Blanket OK'd for DSP content
So I could play an Ethumion Rubato?

PST isn't too far off for me, either. I may be interested!

>>46009971
If I'm not mistaken, PST is the same as GMT -7, right?
I'm at GMT +2 but I have basically nothing to do. What general time do you reckon games will take place, and how long would the sessions last?
I'm definitely interested, but I can't be playing at 6 am.

>>46010024
No idea what an Ethumion is, but there is a Rubato NPC.

>>46009955
well.. those 3 who fully suit up might be moe female too..

>>46009971
What time PST are we talking? Are you using voice?

>>46010061
I run games in the evening due to my schedule unfortunately.

>>46010071
Generally I make use of voice. I run between 4 and 10pm pst.

>>46010063
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1sqYWW5LEIg_LEtsyK_uzm9j1kRIBMKgc1cR5iSW9oHQ/edit#

New playtest race for the next race book DSP is doing.

What day are you looking to run?

>>46010100
>>46010081
4 PM PST is only 1 AM for me. I can easily play until about 7 or even 8 PM your time, but I wouldn't be able to yell or laugh furiously or whatever. However, any later than 7 or 8 would be too late for me, and I imagine hitting that 4 PM every time would be tough, no? It's probably best I let you americans play amongst yourselves, here.

>>46010129
Sure I don't see why they wouldn't. Generally when in doubt consult the player guide (which I will post shortly).

I would run on a weekday. Likely Wednesday.

>>46010190
Wednesday evenings I have a game, but maybe we could work something out. The idea sounds interesting, and I've been wanting to try out this build. I'll take a look at the player guide and whip something up

Would you guys say that, generally, the wizard/sorcerer spell list is better than the cleric/oracle spell list?

>>46010300
I believe that is the general opinion, yes.

>>46010326
In that case, is Sorcerer good enough at utilizing said spell list?

>>46010300
>the wizard/sorcerer spell list is better than the cleric/oracle spell list?

No, because the wizard/sorcerer spell list does not have access to healing.

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Here is the character creation guide for the campaign.

>>46010360
>what is infernal healing
>what is celestial healing
>what is summon monster
>what is limited wish

It has very limited access to healing, but that's not the same as no access.

>>46010360
That's what Arcane Savant is for. Nothing quite like stealing divine magic as a wizard and then using Blood Money to fuel Restoration spells, making you even better at using Restoration than the actual Clerics that the gods intended to be using it.

>>46010360
Infernal Healing?

>>46010360
This is a silly way to justify it as most healing is invalidated by a wand. Remove Disease/Curse/Poison + Curing Ability Score Damage is what you get out of Cleric/Oracle that matters.

>>46010354
Paragon Surge, Human favored class bonus, Page of spell knowledge.

>>46010354
I mean, you get to all 9 levels of casting, so yes. Sorcerer's drawback is they have a very limited library to pick from themselves--you have to cherry pick from the spell list for your known spells, and then that's it.

Wizards can conceivably write every spell ever published in their sixty three and a half spellbooks, which is what gives rise to their vaunted flexibility (which is really the source of their Tier 1-ness).

>>46010482
Every spell ever printed is ~150k gp for the lot if you're entirely borrowing other's spell books for it.

>>46010428
Well.. Wizard can use Break Enchantment for curse. Poison and ability score damage can be fix with Summon Monster.

>>46010395
How do you feel about Martial Traditions? Was going to use one to pick up an alternate discipline and some related benefits on my Rubato. Can take the trait if you'd prefer, but it might give me an excuse to be involved in the adventure prompt as well.

>>46010507
Cypher Script and Blessed Books can help with that... Although I'm not actually sure how much money you end up saving with a Blessed Book, since there's still a limit on how many pages it has.

>>46010482
What's up with Arcanist, then?
I've heard it's meant to be better than Wizard but still ends up not being as good?
How's all that work?
I'm just looking to be the best spellcaster I can be, here.

>>46010354
Absolutely.

Its easy to lose perspective on the sorcerer and others like it with all the emphasis and focus on the prepared casters, but remember this:

You can still break reality over your knee and make it your little bitch. Does the wizard have more options than you? Maybe. But you're still a plane hopping meteor throwing superstar. You're freaking amazing.

>>46010587
Arcanist is, mostly, better than wizard at levels when it has access to the same level of spells, so about half the time.

>>46010559
No, I mean to have wizards show you the spells to copy, not for the books themselves.

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>>46004719
>dank maymays from 4chan only
Pic related is how much of a faggot you are. You literally spew pastel rainbows and candy, you sweet ass lil bitch nigga.

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"She ran and ran,
As if some goblin man,
Dogged her with gibe or curse,
Or something worse."
- Christina Rosetti, "The Goblin Market"

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1pBP7kQ14gCc-xTsjIdK7EJov38IpDZFG73anj6KyifI/edit?usp=sharing

Giantitp thread: http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?481538-Dreamscarred-Press-Lords-of-the-Mists-The-Midway-Faire&p=20539342#post20539342

Paizo thread: http://paizo.com/threads/rzs2tj2e?Dreamscarred-Press-Announces-Lords-of-the#1

Since we're on this topic:
How good is Wizard/Sorcerer spell list for outputting negative energy damage?

>>46010656
Oooh, how exciting!
Gonna brew some cocoa and get to reading straight away.

>>46010587
The arcanist's trick is that it combines the wizard's breadth of spell knowledge (i.e., it uses spellbooks and preparation) and the sorcerer's casting versatility.

With a wizard, you have to plan out exactly which spells you're going to carry for the day. Didn't prepare two fireballs? Sucks to be you after you spent the first one.

With a sorcerer, if you just plain don't KNOW fireball, haha you're shit outta luck.

Arcanists can prepare fireball, then spend zero, one, or up to all of their level 3 spell slots/day on it.

>>46010726
Shit.

>>46010726
Well, you've got Chill Touch as a 1st level spell. I'm pretty sure there are probably some other, higher level spells that will do it too. So it's at least possible.

>>46010395
Interested, but Wednesday is a no go for me. Any other days you'd be free to run?

>>46010395
Are Campaign Traits counted against your two traits to begin with, or do you get a campaign trait for free in this?

>>46010656
Damnit Gareth, I'm trying to do work! I don't need to be distracted by shiny new material on one of my favorite subjects.

>>46010770
>>46010786
Is there some way to meme in Inflict spells into your spell list, then?
I know Arcanist can just roflcast Cure spells.

>>46010828
They are counted against your two traits.

>>46010827
Tuesday evening may also work.

>>46010555
The setting itself does not really involve the Martial Traditions, but I have no reason to disallow them. The books will not explicitly mention any of them.

>>46010885
Why would you want inflict? Are you trying to heal undead?

>>46010894
This is me.

>>46010901
Literally yes.

>>46010885
What do you need negative energy damage for? It's only really useful for healing undead, and ask an arcane necromancer I think you have other options for that.

>>46010885
Agent of the Grave. There are also a couple other ways to get non-wizard spells into your spell list.

>>46010100
The sad part is, despite me also being in PST,I have a nocturnal schedule due to working overnight so that didn't work at all for me I'm actually just about to go to sleep

>>46010934
What should I use for it then?

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What's your opinion of Dragon Disciples /pfg/?

>>46011047

An interesting class that's somewhat underwhelming in its execution.

>>46011047
That is one of the ugliest shields I have ever seen.

>>46011077
How so? Is it just that dragon claws/breath/form are just not optimal or something?

>>46011047
Sorcs who aren't Draconic need the option to do the same for their ancestors.

Why should Dragons have all the fun?

>>46010656
This is exciting, and I'm still giving what's presented a good read-through, but I did see a couple things that jumped out at first glance:

>Daoine Sidhe, Immortal Swordsmanship
Does the maneuver gained herein count against initiating class' limits on known maneuvers? It's not written either way (I'm assuming "Yes").

>Daoine Sidhe, Fey Sorcery
What's the saving throw DC based on, Charisma? Again, unprinted but assumed.

>Daoine Sidhe, favored class bonus options
Some of these look highlighted. Should I just ignore that?

Daoine Sidhe looks like another awesome race, though. I wish I had more games to play all of these in (ethumions are also high on that list).

>>46011104
People dislike it because of all the caster levels it skips. You get cool stuff in exchange, but it's cool melee stuff, melee not exactly being something that sorcerers shine at. I guess you can enter it from Bloodrager now though.

>>46011120
>Does the maneuver gained herein count against initiating class' limits on known maneuvers? It's not written either way (I'm assuming "Yes")
Why would it? It's effectively just an additional level 1 maneuver known, except that you can never trade it up.

>>46011104
You lose caster-stuff, but the class isn't really enough to make you good at melee, so you end up being not really one or the other.

>>46011120
> Does the maneuver gained herein count against initiating class' limits on known maneuvers? It's not written either way (I'm assuming "Yes").

Yes.

> What's the saving throw DC based on, Charisma? Again, unprinted but assumed.
SLAs default to Charisma unless otherwise stated, yes.

> Some of these look highlighted. Should I just ignore that?
I, um. I have no idea what that means. Nothing's highlit on my end.

>>46011162
Because it's kind of a big advantage versus other races, at least at lower levels, even if the maneuvers *readied* number doesn't change?

Mostly I'm asking 'cause I'm a sucker for maximum clarity, because I've gamed with some real slick rules lawyers in the past.

>>46011162
It counts for the whole "you can't know the same maneuver twice," rule though. Which is what I believe anon was referring to?

>>46011194
Couldn't you just start out as a Bloodrager like >>46011152 recommended and mitigate that though?

>>46010894
Tuesday works, except on the 5th of April. Starting level? Also, how to contact after making character, unless you want them made right now?

>>46010656
Does the Faire have awful midway games? Can I win feytouched plushe animals?

>>46011231
Yes. Yes it does.

>>46011195
http://i.imgur.com/6L1ShDp.png

That's really all it is. Was curious if there was a significance or not, but it sure don't sound like it so I'll count that as answered too.

>>46011195
So, wait... The gained maneuver is basically useless to initiators then? I could just take the maneuver normally. Why the hell would I want this?

>>46011262
In case you don't play an initiator. If you do, take the veilweaving alternative feature instead. Easy peasy.

>>46011215
Oh, I read it as effecting the maneuvers known. As in a level 1 Sidhe warder would only get four maneuvers, because they got the fifth from their race.

>>46011221
You basically trade BAB, caster levels and class features for some ability score bonuses and form of the dragon 2/day. I'm not convinced that it's worth the trade, though.

>>46011262
>>46011323
It doesn't count against your total number of maneuvers known, no. You still get the full compliment from your class, plus the one from your race.

If you've got ideas for how the wording might be clarified, I'm quite open to them. I'd hate for this confusion to persist.

>>46011389
Well first of all, don't say yes when someone asks if that's what it means, if that's not what it means, on account of that's the only place the confusion came from

Just add "this maneuver does not count against your total number of maneuvers known" and you're set

>>46011463
You've my apologies.

>>46010894
Alright. I'd be looking at the Stained Glass Champions. The backstory does involve planar travel, but it explicitly mentions that the involved character (the patron of the Tradition) can't get back home, which could actually mesh well with your established fluff.

>>46011389
Yeah, it's as >>46011463 put it. Sorry, I guess I could have asked more clearly.

I still really like the daoine! Their "little bit of a lot of things" nature is very appealing to me.

>>46011107
Because screw you, I'm a dragon :P

>>46010919
Yeah, only question remaining is starting level. I assume level 1, since it doesn't say any different and starting wealth is listed as 'by class'?

>>46010653
> master
I don't know if you just wanted to show off how you actually do use Pixiv, but you can't even use it right, you absolute tool.

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Where can I find the Advanced Bestiary book? The one that includes a bunch of templates.

Can't find it on the Trove, and Google isn't any help.

Picture unrelated. Or is it?

>>46010656
It seems weird that the sidhe take more damage from iron when they have higher con. I guess it can make sense, but in my mind iron vulnerability works better, even if it is a much bigger drawback.

>>46010656
Gareth, why's the bean sidhe's Deadly Performance no better than a base bard's? It's like.. that's what they DO, why aren't they BETTER than any random singing asshole at it?

Where does the idea that fae are vulnerable to iron come from? I have a homebrew setting where the reason is because fae souls are created inside stars, and stars basically die when they start fusing iron. Someone told me that was a novel take on the idea, which is the first time I've really thought about why they might be weak to iron in the first place.

>>46012086
Celtic myth, generally, though some fey were notably /not/ weak to iron, including the infamous Red Cap.

>>46012026
Honestly? Because I'm not sure I could get away with it.

>>46012005
Weapon vulnerability does something different than energy vulnerability. It's somewhat aggravating.

>>46012086
Because fey are otherworldly, and iron is the foundation of mortal blood.

>>46012131
>Weapon vulnerability does something different than energy vulnerability.
Wait, really? Where's the rule for the non-energy ones at?

>>46012166
http://www.d20pfsrd.com/bestiary/rules-for-monsters/universal-monster-rules#TOC-Vulnerabilities-Ex-or-Su-

>>46012086
Goes back a long way, so it's hard to be sure, but the the theory I've read was that the iron age happened around the same time that newer religions began supplanting fairy style spirit worship.

Unrelated events that coincided and were mistakenly mixed.

>>46007946
It should say on the bottom where it's from.

Where do you go to ask questions about 3.5?

My DM refuses to try Pathfinder and they're the only group I can play with locally, so I'm stuck with 3.5 for now. I've never seen a /3.5eg/ and I've only ever been yelled at for asking here, so what's the alternative? There's gotta be other people out there who still play 3.5.

>>46012277
Giant in the Playground? Its still got a ton of people who talk about 3.5, at least.

>>46012277
You either find /3.5eg/(they do exist, occasionally) or make a thread for it.

>>46012277
Make your own thread? Go find a 3.5 forum?

>>46012334
>>46012347
>make /3.5eg/
>2 replies
>thread dies

>>46012277
Giant in the Playground, EN World, and Reddit all have fairly active communities that still talk about 3.5.

>>46012277
Hell, you can just ask here as well. Pathfinder practically is 3.5.

When is the Armor Master's Handbook coming out?

>>46012498
Man, I wish I could. Every time I've tried people have gotten upset about it.

>>46012498
When that happens there's usually more autists complaining that this is /pfg/ not /3.5eg/ than actual answers.

>>46012523
April 27

>>46012447
>Reddit
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>46012498
>Pathfinder practically is 3.5.
It's different enough that the specifics of any question are practically guaranteed to differ enough to be useless.

>>46012560
That may be in response to the dude who kept bumping his question through two or three threads after getting no answers.

>>46012712
Simple solution is just specifying 3.5 material only.

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If you have Crossbow Mastery, which allows you to reload your crossbow as a free action, do you still need a free hand? Or could you dual wield those mofos?

>>46012277
Just ask here now, the thread's moving slowly enough that you might get an answer.

Is there a charisma based warder? If not is there any suggestion for a court knight Sidhe with the Art of the Deal feat where their word is their bond?

>>46012774
>Can a martial do something cool?

What do you think?

>>46012774
Describe how you would reload a crossbow with the hand you use to hold the crossbow

>>46012766
That just leads to not getting answers, though.

>>46012774
Still need a free hand. Or tail.

>>46012835
Yeah, but are you getting answer when you don't ask at all?

How come there isn't a CHA-based FULL fullcaster? You know, like Wizard or Cleric. One that gets a bajillion options.
Sorc/Oracle come close, but not close enough, with Paragon Surge.
Meanwhile, INT and WIS have multiple classes that do that stuff!
Where's the justice?
If I want to be the most magic I possibly can while still maintaining CHA as my main mental stat by a whole lot, is my best option really Sorc/Oracle? I think Summoner is worse than them, right?

>>46012893
Because Paizo associates CHA with RAW MAGICAL BLOODPOWER and RAW MAGICAL BLOODPOWER has to be spontaneous or else it wouldn't be RAW MAGICAL BLOODPOWER.

>>46012893
You've got your terminology a bit wrong. Fullcaster just means getting 9th level spells and a full spell progression, which sorcerer and oracle do get.

>>46012893
CHA gets you UMD, so you pretty much do have everything.

>>46012893
There was the 3.5 class from Dargon Mag called the Sha'ir. It made bargains with djinni friends and the djinni fucked off for a few rounds or minutes and collected spells for you and let you store them for a few hours at a time. It's kind of OP, but it's fun and flavorful

>>46012893
The fuck are you talking about? A Sorc IS a fucking fullcaster.

>>46012814
>>46012831
>>46012841
Okay fine. So as long as you had 1 hand free you could reload as many crossbows you could wield as a free action?

>>46013036
Get someone to graft an arm to your shoulder solely for reloading crossbows.

What's are some recommendation for aegis/soulknife split for a mindforge?

>>46013009
He means one that isn't arbitrarily gimped with a progression that's one level behind.

>>46012893
Because Monte Cook hated sorcerers and put them a level behind back in 3e, and it stuck.

>>46013036
Yep.

Alternately, play a Gunslinger with the Bolt Ace archetype, and dual-wield Repeating Crossbows; at level 11 you fully reload them at the start of every turn no hands needed.

>>46012893
INT = ALWAYS prepared, because you have to learn prepared casting.
CHA = ALWAYS spontaneous, because the force of your personality can bend the magic around you but doesn't mean you can learn how to manipulate it with more finesse (like wizards).

More or less Paizo's view of it, I guess.

>>46013088
Don't use Metaforge, use Awakened Blade.

Soulknife 4/Aegis 2/Awakened Blade 10, Student of the Astral Suit for aegis and Natural Blade for soulknife.