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GOD level threat approaching edition
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First for land a bridge and needle Ratchet Bomb.
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>>45340162
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http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/soulfire-skred/

What do you think of this?
I have 3 flex slots and I'm not sure what to fill them with.

I was thinking maybe another oath but most likely assemble the legion or balefire liege. Dark dwellers have been okay on testing.

Also, this deck has won against eldrazi. First game is rough but it's pretty easy after boarding in land destruction and the paths.
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Anyone have that Mardu Midrange list? I just want a midrange deck that's not instantly $600 because of four goyfs. I have a rough idea with Lightning Bolts, Helixes, Inquisitions and Confidants.
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>>45340193
Just bought into Lantern, But couldn't resign myself to buy 4 Glimmervoid for 200$ atm, what is a good replacement for them ?
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>>45340482
Use glimmer void basins as proxies
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>>45340482
There's no optimal swap of course, but you need color fixing so Mana Confluence (painful mana base fucks the non-infect aggro matchups more than necessary though) or Gemstone Caverns (I'll assume this will crack prematurely more often than you'd like), maybe just swamps and forests if you feel like gambling and Blood Moon is a heavy hitter in your meta.
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>>45340482
Lolmao go back to the soup kitchen you pooro
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>>45340482
>>45340544
Or just 4 Tendo Ice Bridges since they tap for colorless as well with no strings attached.
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>>45340579
Holy fuck just looked up Tendos, they're expensive now. Guess the budget option was too good.

Look up some some common draft lands, they aren't half bad. Unknown Shores is the standard but you can find some really neat/cute ones
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>>45340543
May just buy chinamen proxies at this point
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>>45340293
I like it.

The most difficult part seems balancing the lands so you have white but don't get fucked over by your own moon and still make the most out of skred and koth..
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Why do dead?
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What would you sideboard in a UWR control deck with this meta? Crumble to dust comes to mind.
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>>45340760
Does City of Brass makes the cut ?
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>>45341192
Too slow vs Eldrazi, you'll never resolve it vs Tron with Ghost Quarters and Warping Wail.
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>>45341203
It's a painland so preferably no but will do against everything that's not Burn or Suicide Zoo.
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>>45341216
Got any suggestions?
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>>45341292
Stony Silence is always relevant, Blood Moon if your own manabase isn't all shocks, Painter's Servant vs Eldrazi.
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>>45341216
>you'll never resolve it vs Tron

Sowing Salt was a common sideboard hate card for Tron before Crumble to Dust was a thing and Crumble is strictly better.
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>>45341292
Leyline of Sanctity vs Lantern Control, Junk, 8rack and anyone else that points lots of discard at you, Hurkyl's Recall, Mindbreak Trap if people play Storm.
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>>45341340
That was before 4 of Warping Wail in every Tron side, since it also produces a chump blocker vs aggro, ramps to t3 Ugin and counters Scapeshift and Living End as well.
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>>45341321
>>45341344

Thanks, ill look into them when i get home from the gym
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>>45341360
>4 of Warping Wail in every Tron side
This isn't a thing
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>>45341406
Slight exaggeration but nonetheless no one runs less than 2 and since it's colorless and Stirrnigs finds it you're going to see at least one if needed in just about every game.
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>>45341360
Which aggro deck is affected by that chump?

Affinity will fly
Infect will go unblockable or fly
Eldrazi will trample
Zoo isn't very good anyway
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>>45341182
Because the format is fucked, anon. Come back after Wizards stops trying to deny that it's all gone wrong and kills Eldrazi.
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>>45341526
>Affinity will fly
Not always, use for exile if no Ravager or Overseer on board.
>Infect will go unblockable or fly
Same as above.
>Eldrazi will trample
TKS and Mimics don't.
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>>45341556
The format is fine at a local level. I don't give a shit what 'pros' play
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>>45341615
I'm sure the next GPT at my lgs will be full of eldrazi so I disagree, the fnm are mostly safe though.
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>>45340293
I hope you'll find a way to make skred competetive enough to beat other tier 1 decks.

Please post the deck again when you feel like it is done! I would love to see your progress on it
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>>45341615
>>>/edh/
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>>45341730
Ummm okay? The pros of magic, at least for modern don't play much better than players at my fnm and just because they ran a busted eldrazi shell doesn't mean every weekend warrior is going to shell out for this broken ass meme deck
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Where were you when Chapin dumped a steaming pile of truth on Star of David Games?
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>>45341839
>next line
>Just kidding
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>>45341839
Kek!

Those lands are so busted though. It's gross playing against. They wanted to avoid feel bad moments by dumbing the game down and taking away answers, but this truly feels bad to lose against
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>>45341615
thats because locally people cant buy the latest modern deck just because its good, they stick with what they have
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>>45341839
where were you when chapin killed that dude and got away scot-free
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>>45341839
>PREMIUM
Never stop to impress me.
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>>45341881
The UR version is pretty cheap for a tier 0 deck... But the fear of the ban is too strong.
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Look at how healthy and diverse the current meta is.
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>>45342146
>Eldrazi Control
>Tron Control
>Valakut Control
>Infect Combo

CAN'T HANDLE THOSE MEMES
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>>45342044
a lot of the expensive cards arent really modern staples either, its a lot of sunken money for 3 months of play
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What is the difference between standard and modern?
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>>45342233
About $500.
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>>45342233
you can beat the standard eldrazi deck
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>>45342233
Standard is a bunch of boring midrange decks, modern is a bunch of boring aggro decks.
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Playing Pauper and Standard, wanting to get into Modern.

I'm working on a Mono Green Devotion deck, this is where I am so far. Any tips ?

Creature (22)
4x Arbor Elf
2x Birds of Paradise
4x Burning-Tree Emissary
3x Courser of Kruphix
1x Craterhoof Behemoth
3x Eternal Witness
2x Primeval Titan
3x Strangleroot Geist

Sorcery (7)
4x Genesis Wave
3x Primal Command

Planeswalker (3)
3x Garruk Wildspeaker

Enchantment (7)
3x Oath of Nissa
4x Utopia Sprawl

Land (21)
8x Forest
1x Kessig Wolf Run
4x Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx
4x Stomping Ground
4x Wooded Foothills

Sideboard (15)
3x Creeping Corrosion
3x Crumble to Dust
3x Melira, Sylvok Outcast
3x Nylea's Disciple
3x Scavenging Ooze
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If current trends continue, within a month this format will be upwards of 50% Eldrazi.
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>>45342146
>eldrazi control
>look up
>it's just another midrange eldrazi deck

What the fuck?
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Reminder that the Eldrazi deck is making waves into Legacy.

http://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/372550#online

So just remember that whenever you play against the Eldrazi deck, you're playing against a legacy deck with a modern deck.
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Reprint tabernacle pls
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>twin is still the number one most played combo deck
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>>45342331
>another stompy deck
>"making waves"
A good modern deck can probably beat a bad legacy deck
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>>45342331
Legacyfags should be happy that fresh meat can join their format without experiencing the full Legacy buy-in predicament.

Just help them scrounge up cash for Ancient Tombs and they're good to go. Hell they could probably make do without them, they've got 8 Sol lands as is.
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>>45342322
If you add the Eldrazi Control and Eldrazi Aggro numbers together, the deck is already on the brink of pushing Affinity off the top spot in Modern.
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>>45342575
Eldrazi aggro alone is around 20% of the meta since the pro tour and probably rising.
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>>45341340
>Crumble to Dust is strictly better
I still use Sowing Salt because the art is strictly better
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>>45342611
Going off MTGO events on mtgtop8, Eldrazi makes up 15/30 of the decks. That's quite literally 50% of the top 8 metagame since the PT.
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>>45342643
But it doesn't exile
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>>45342575
>eldrazi aggro + eldrazi control = 85 decks
It's not even one weekend after the Pro Tour and Affinity is already about to lose its top spot. It's been fun boys. The metagame's been solved.
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>>45342683
Most of that is from before the PT.
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>>45342671
read the card again.
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>>45342671
It does. It just costs 1 more R and isn't devoid
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Throwing this together with some cards I have from my failed weirdstorm build, it's basic as fuck can I get some suggestions? To buy the cards I do need it'll run me about 219 bucks.

http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/storm-prototype-2/
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>>45340473
Lol, nice try senpai. This is modern
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>>45342146

The fuck is "valakut" ?

It's not scapeshift apparently since they have that on the list too
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I think I have a 50% win rate vs eldrazi with green devotion. Granted it's not pros playing the deck on mtgo

>>45342812
No him but
It did reasonably well in the protour.
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>>45342846
It's not like there is room for error in the deck. Slam whatever eldrazi you can and beat face
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>>45342692
Oh jeez. I can only imagine how the meta will look once its been updated.
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>>45342290

I don't see why you need 4 fetch and 4 shocks just to cast crumble to dust in the sideboard, but if you're not losing to aggro too hard then maybe it doesn't matter
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>>45342863
Yeah but if they don't resolve a chalice or get multiple dismember/gutshot going I tend to go over the top of them
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>>45342812
What does that mean? There was a list at the pro tour and although it's far from cheap, the lack of goyfs allows it to be under $1000 with the current cards I have.
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>>45342830
Gruul aggro with prime time and valakuts. Then some fucking genius thought "what if I add scapeshift to this?" And then the GR "titan shift" variant was born
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>>45342888
I need one Red to activate Kessig Wolf Run, I wouldn't bother splashing Red if it wasn't the case.
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>>45342929
Gruul midrange*
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>>45342913
It's likely not worth playing right now unless you up to 4 terminates/4path.

I think if you google protour ogw mardu Ben stark it will come up. I actually ran the same list for a while
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>>45342951
Mardu without crackling Doom is silly
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>>45342966
Card is decent, I've play tested it quite a bit. I think it might be great right now vs eldrazi but before then Loliana just outperformed it
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>>45342979
>Loliana
34 it. Now.
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Please cure my bro he has gayic sickness I'm tired of his rantling and his butt cracked friends.
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>>45342929

Huh

Haven't seen that one in action, could be cool
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>>45343000
Fuck off with this shit
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MOMAAAAAAAAA
DIDN'T MEAN TO MAKE YOU CRYYYYYY
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>>45343090
can you imagine how expensive that shit would be if it had been rare
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>>45342146
>15% not aggro

Oy vey how toxic! Interacting with your opponent clearly makes players feel bad! So we will have to do some bannings of those unfun decks to promote a diverse metagame as seen in the modern pro tour!

On an unrelated note have you guys been to Star City Gamesâ„¢? That's where I get all my Magic The Gatheringâ„¢ gear. I just picked up a playset of Eldraziâ„¢! I hear it's awfully good right now BUY MORE OATH OF THE GATEWATCH
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>>45343121
I don't think it would make a shred of difference tbqhwy
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>>45343090
>playing with foil IoKs

>>45343121
It wasn't exactly a 100% must have in Standard. It was a solid card for sure, but nowhere near the level of money something like Thoughtseize would command.

I played UB Control during Zendikar Standard, for what it's worth. The money was mostly in JTMS and the fetches to support him.
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>>45343153
I was just checking the regular prices and saw that.
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Hey guys- I bought into burn recently, decided to go mono red in case I ever want to head towards eternalland. Is it better to buy blood moons now, or wait til I need them to turn off wastelands?
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>>45343190
That price is overinflated even for SCG.

>>45343192
>needing to turn off Wastelands
dude you play monored. Not only that, in Legacy you use fetches as a shield to protect your sources of other colors until you absolutely need them.

Just play Molten Rain for the time being.
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>>45343192
you turn off wastelands by casting price of progress
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>>45343236
>tfw PoP isn't Modern Legal

>tfw can't make El Drizzle eat shit with PoP
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>having to deal with Eldcawbladerazi until April

Alright I guess I won't go to any modern tournaments

Nice job wizards
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Y-you wouldn't ban me would you senpai?
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>>45343246
its sad because pop would be too powerful for modern
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>>45343272
...would Eldrazi win against Legacy Burn?
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>>45343272
It really isn't.

A lot of decks can scale back their mana greed. Eldrazi, not so much.
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>>45343292
Legacy Burn is largely the same as Modern, so yes.
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>>45343292
Yes
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>>45343311
I believe that matchup is mostly decided by a die roll (Trinispheres being more useful on the play vs vomiting Eldrazi Mimics, Chalices on 0 etc).
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>>45343389
>I believe that matchup is mostly decided by a die roll
Welcome to Magic circa 2016.
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>>45343389
Most of shops is dead in that MU. Chalice is dead, thorn is dead, trini is dead. Stax might be favored
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>>45343311
>>45343389
>>45343537
Shops is good in vintage due to the large number of cards it hates out. Chalice on zero fucks so much in vintage, yet in modern almost no cards at all. It's a bad comparison.

Sorry for bad drunken english. I am drunken yuropoor/
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>>45342788

Sorry bro but UR storm isn't viable anymore. Grow up and make something else.
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>>45343590
It's a metagame deck, that it's bad against other metagames is not surprising. Eldrazi vs vintage storm is more representative of the best deck vs the best deck
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>>45342290
bumping for advices
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>>45343670

Put it on tapped out I can't be bothered to look up half the shit in that list.
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>>45343311
I'd like to see eldrazi vs. TPS
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Would Death and Taxes fare well against Eldrazi due to all the land hate?
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>>45343763
Depends on whether they get to vomit a board full of Mimics and TKSs before you can land an arbiter and some quarters, pretty much the same deal as against Bloom last year.
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>>45343689
>not knowing all the cards
Step it up
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>>45343689
Couldn't bother making a tapped out account, here have this

http://deckstats.net/deck-9121457-7d78707f6e4796d5d62b27f36a0f4f8d.html
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>>45342290
How do you win against red decks
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>>45343791

Doesn't matter can't give you good advice unless I can view all of the material in the deck. I normally don't bother with Mono Green or devotion as mostly they are garbage anyway but I've seen it done right a few times. And it isn't cheap.
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>>45343832
Not them but turn 3 primal command, tuck their land and gain 7, or gain 7 tutor for ewit and repeat. Or just plopping your hand out.

The matchup isn't bad, especially with by lead disciples postboard, but you can easily lose to a wave of skullcracks. Deck has capabilities of drawing the ENTIRE deck on turn 2 and swinging lethal with 2 craterhoofs
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>>45343832
The deck is quite fast. Primal command and Nylea's Disciple also can gain life.
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>>45343876
>>45343889
Should really have a plan b.
Removal totally wrecks this as is
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>>45343851
>>45343889
Honestly I think green devotion is one of the most underrated archetypes. There is a huge amount of flexibility in how to build it and generally having 7 mana on turn 2-3 is good in modern
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>>45343876
>>45343889
Ok let me rephrase:

How do you win against decks that bolt manadorks on the spot?
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>>45343919
If they spend their turn bolting an elf you've already gained 3 life. Searing blaze is the most problematic thing they do. Often times you just turn 1 sprawl though.
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>>45343937

Yeah but you don't interact well with most basic B/R builds. A storm would outcombo you turn 3 and can destroy your field presence and your asshole rather quickly.
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>>45343990
Yes, everyone knows how the deck plays.
Your version is bad against removal.

>only burn plays bolt
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>>45343945
>>45343919

Mana dork isn't essential. If you have Nykthos and a forest with Utopia Sprawl on it you don't need the elf to start generating massive amounts of mana. It just makes the deck go off one turn latter if the dork dies. Meanwhile, they are doing nothing on their own so it's basically the same.
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>>45343945
Turn 1 utopia sprawl. On turn you have potential to

Turn 2 burning tree, burning tree, play and activate nykthos, float 5 mana drop garruk, untap, float 8 mana, drop anything
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>>45344029
I'm infinite on mtgo playing it :^)

It loses to delver decks and control if you don't have a sideboard or fat mana early
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>>45344070
I'm the guy that posted my version earlier on the thread. Mind sharing your version ?
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>>45344100
http://deckstats.net/decks/4536/419310-mono-g/en

I've made changes to the side and main since I posted this, mostly putting an acidic slime in the main instead of joraga, cutting choke, adding more creeping corrosion, Rec sages, and a sideboard slime.


I might try genwave again for fun but oftentimes it feels like a bad storm deck, especially if you genwave for 5 and miss the ability to recast genwave
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>>45343389
Trinisphere is restricted in Vintage
more like sphere of resistance or lodestone golem
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I find Bant beats with coralhem and tooth and nail combo to be sturdiest.
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>>45344173
Yeah, my bad.
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>>45344154
I thought Genesis Wave was a huge staple for this kind of deck.

Slime seems better than Crumble to Dust, I'll swap that.

Why don't you run Scooze in the SB for delver/loam matchups ? it crushes them pretty hard.
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>>45344264
I think I swapped to putting scope in the SB


Genwave is cool but I'd rather cast a hornet queen with 7 mana vs genwave T for 4
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>Choice is between Memedrazi and Affinity
>Don't want to play either
Might as well play slivers, because every other deck is going to be T2 or worse anyway.
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>>45344342
Yea but slivers are awful
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>>45344342
If you can't beat 'em, sell out and play Legacy
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>>45344342
>tfw Affinity's the only good aggro deck now because it can actually play through chalice for 1
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>>45344395
That's not why. It gets fucked by an even simpler chalice for zero
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>>45344307
Well, Hornet Queen is unexpensive so I might try it out and see the difference.

Really wish it had Flash tho
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>>45344351
As opposed to any other matchup against Affinity, Eldrazi, or niche masturbatory combo decks?
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>>45344419
Chalice for zero by itself is a mild speed bump, hell a single chalice in general is just a small hindrance that can be played through.

You need at least 2 chalices, or a chalice and a bad mulligan from the Affinity pilot.
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>>45344456
Fuck off to a different format. You have no clue what you're talking about
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>>45342254
At least i can play control and have some fun with it.

Too baad this is my last standard season before moving to commander /pauper
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>>45344474
You can't play half the deck and springleaf is pretty useless without the zero drops to tap.

You need more lands due to that and opal not resolving and the artifact count is much lower for ravager and plating.

It's a tad more than a speed bump
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>>45344479
What about that was incorrect? It's a format that's dominated by Eldrazi, Affinity to race Eldrazi, and a few combo decks that just don't care. Any deck that's not Eldrazi, Affinity, or a fast, nasty combo is barely worth considering.
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>>45344654
Awe, babby's first PT viewing
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If you're not playing Eldrazi you're either playing Affinity (and praying to get a nut draw) or losing. Every other combo deck is basically unconsiderable in this new meta. I doubt even Twin would make a difference now that "turn 2 Swing 25" is a real deck.

Ad Nauseam, Scapeshift, burn, Infect... They're all too slow. Infect can potentially kill on turn 2 with Glistener, Groundswell, Krosa, and any amount of Mutagenic Growth. But if we're living in Christmas land, we're also living in Eldrazi's 25 damage turn 2 format.
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>>45344726
>>45340193
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>>45344726
>Eldrazi always gets the nut draw
>Affinity has to pray for it
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>>45344726
This is just wrong.
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>>45344752
>implying affinity is stronger than eldrazi
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>>45344788
>implying Memedrazi isn't shit without the Chalice opener
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>me in last fn
>playing affinity
>game 3 vs eldrazi
>got 2 menmite and 2 thopers, 1 mox, glimmervoid and cranial plating.
>looks pretty good i said
>turn one opponent play eldrazi temple, discard ssg and drop chalice with x= 0 and chalice with x=1. He pass the turn
>Inner screamming intensifies
>I conceed

Seriously chalice should be banned.
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>>45344798
Tell that to my turn 2 TKS
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>>45344830
Play Engineered Explosives.
At least you have enough colorless sources that you can play it for Sunburst of 0 while paying X > 0 to bypass Chalice.

>>45344855
>using TKS on an empty hand
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>>45344690
I played Standard when Urza's Saga and Mirrodin were both released. This may not be as bad, but it's still pretty fucking egregious.

8Tombs.dec has destroyed the metagame.

>>45344788
>>45344798
Girls, girls. Both your decks are retarded.
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>>45344798
?

Turn 1 eye of ugin, mimicx3 endless1 x1
Turn 2 thought knot seer, swing 14

Alternate turn 2, exile simian spirit guide, play reality smasher, swing 20
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>>45342146

>BAWWW ELDRAZI CONTROL ISN'T DRAW-GO BLUE.
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>>45344901
>playing creatures with etb effects on curve is control
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>>45344923
>What is Emeria Control
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>>45344943
Not a deck.
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>>45344963
Kek, this
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>>45344963
but it is
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>>45344993
59 Forests and 1 Lost in the Woods is also a deck, am I right?
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>>45344943
Emeria durdles way harder than processor Eldrazi though.
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>>45344943
Tier 5 garbage
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>>45344943
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I don't have enough implying for this
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>>45345009
>>45345027
>>45345060
>>45345077

>Butthurt neckbeards that got destroyed by a deck costing a third of their's detected.
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>>45345108
That deck is shit and you know it anon.
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>>45345108
Put some effort into it m8
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>>45345108
Emeria control is utter shit dude.
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>>45345124

Still a deck. The argument wasn't about if it can beat anything in the first place. Emeria Control is a control deck, memeing it up won't change anything
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>>45345108
I can beat Emeria easily because I play Esper Control
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>>45345138
You can't really say a deck is/has control if it folds to everything and anything?
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>>45344860

Cant play explosives with X=0 anon, the chalice will counter it. Plus I couldnt land glimmervoid on the field cause of no artifacts on my side.

Dunno if I should change explosives for ratchet bombs land.
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>>45345138
A deck without tops in over 2 months.
Or any.
Ever.
>A real deck
even WEIRD FUCKING STORM has more.
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>>45345171
Spend 1 colorless to cast the Explosives.
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>>45345171
You choose x=1, paying no colored mana which puts the EE on the field without counters, bypassing Chalice.
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>MTGO report from today's daily
>only 5 Eldrazi decks and 1 Affinity in the Top 8
Progress?
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>>45345171
Son you need to git gud with EE.
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>>45345189
>>45345196
Oh fuck, 2 years playing with affinity and didnt think about that.

Still didnt have explosive till one turn before i conceded. The eldraazi guy already had reality smasher and 2 mimic on field.
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>>45345206
Other 2?
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>>45345268
Endbringer decks anon
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>>45345196
Didnt he say there were 2 chalices (with 0 and 1 counters)?
How could he bypass the chalice with 1 counter?
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>>45345163

It's control, period. Regardless if it loses against the field like any control deck in modern, its still a control deck.
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>>45345262
The trick with El Drizzle is to keep their attempts at going wide in check by going wide yourself. Only one of their real threats is actually evasive.
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>>45345353
pay 2 colorless.
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>>45345353
Well in that case he's fucked either way.
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>>45345268
Burn and Jund. Partly there's some confusion over what people are calling their "imaginative Eldrazi brews": if a deck runs 90% of the same cards as every other Eldrazi deck it's a fucking Eldrazi deck.

"ENDrazi", "Eldrazi Control", "Endbringer", "UR Eldrazi", and "Eldrazi Aggro" are different names for fundamentally the same shit. Does it use the same lands to shit out Mimics, TKS, and other various Eldrazi? Then it's an Eldrazi deck.
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>>45345394
He had a fucking glimmervoid in hand turn one anon. He cant land mox and the rest of the gang.
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Rate my Junk sideboard. Im experimenting with options, with a pretty stock BGW build.

>2x Kataki
>2x Loxodon Smiter
>2x Feed the Clan
>2x Zealous Persecution
>2x Languish
>2x Timely Reinforcements
>1x Engineered Explosives
>2x Stony Silence.
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>>45345469
Need painters servant for eldrazi
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>>45345469
I'd put 3-4 Stonys vs Tron, you basically can't win in otherwise.
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http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/10-02-16-uwr-kiki-control/

Can i have some help with finishing my UWR Control deck, was thinking of adding a second Spell Snare and a Wandering Fumarole for the last 2 cards. Thoughts on that?

Also need some help with the sideboard, I should probably fit some painter's servant in there?
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>>45345486
What for? How does it help versus Eldrazi?
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>>45345685
Shuts down Temple fast mana, Eye of Ugin and Mimic triggers.
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>>45345685
because cards that say "colorless spells cost x less to cast etc" they are no longer colorless if you use painter's servant
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>>45345739
Can't they easily remove him though?
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>>45345776
The PT lists only pack 3-4 Dismembers and Ratchet Bombs which would have to be ticked up twice before hitting Servant.
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>>45345813
>>45345813
Might pick up a pair for my Burn sideboard. Then again the meme deck will be banned in April once wizards has stopped selling Oath packs so not sure it's worth the investment
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>>45345844
Yeah this is what im thinking too.
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>>45345574
Any takers?
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As far as dealing with reality smasher, wouldn't shriekmaw bypass his protection? Not much to do against a hand of t1 mimics though.
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> Played emeria control,
> eldrazi sucked my hard dick,
> fellsgoodman

Mfw when they're dropping Newlamog which was way much harder to deal with
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>>45346086
>things that never happened
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>>45346086
I want to violate Braids' mouth tenderly
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>>45346129
Stay ignorant
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>>45346086
>playing Durdleria Control

'Kay.
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>>45344395
Hatebears doesn't give a fuck about your chalice.
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>>45346294
I've played the shit deck numerous times and it's the most underwhelming pile I've played in modern. You durdle about with shitty removal and janky flicker that's a minor annoyance at best.

You can stay ignorant though
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>>45346400
>>45346294
TOLD
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>>45345844

Tbh I'm just going to quit Modern altogether until April. No sense in buying $30+ Worships and Servants that are only going to see play for 2 months.
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>>45346440
Oops sorry, you clearly did!

... And you know what? You sucked!
Kek
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>>45346476
JOIN THE LEGACY BROTHERHOOD
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>>45346560
>>>reddit
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>>45346572

Wat too expensive. Also shit like Sensei's Divning Top is way 2deep4me
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>>45345980
It should. Since it enters the battlefield first, it's no longer a spell but a creature. It's specific, but it'd work.
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>>45346605
You guys must have seriously netdecked the exact list that's been surfacing, no wonder why you sucked

Grow a pair modernfags, brew!
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>>45346738
I'm brewing and netdecking Mardu Midrange, I don't know if it will work though. You just lack good creatures like Goyf without G. I guess Zurgo Helmsmasher might help.
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>>45346738
I haven't net decked anything. I've played against a hundred shit brews by retards like you. Sometimes cards are just bad. Emeria is just that
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>>45342146
Eldrazi is combo tho
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>>45346086
>results oriented thinking
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>>45347035
Wish you could go up against me and make it one hundred and one games against shitty brews
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>>45346086
>Played memeria cucktrol
>Got cucked by eldraziGODS
>I better le lie on the le forchins!
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>>45347193
>>45346129
>>45346314
>>45346400

>S-shut up! Control is dead! It's because teegee told me so! This is Creatures the Creaturing! Fucking WotC!
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>>45347288
>Snags fedora
>Smirks cynically
>"hehehe fucking netdeckers, you cannot beat MY epic homebrew kiddo!"
>tips fedora
>"Hehe, I play a plains... and I SUMMON SERRA'S ASCENDANT IN ATTACK POSITIIIIOOOON!!!!!"
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>>45347288
Emeria is trash. Get over it.

Why not build a dank Sanguine blood combo too. it's about as viable
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So I'm probably going off the deep end with this list, but you let me know how bad it is.

Lands: 23

3 Ghost Quarter
2 Tectonic Edge
2 Godless Shrine
2 Watery Grave
2 Overgrown Tomb
4 Swamp
4 Marsh Flats
4 Polluted Delta

Spells: 19

4 Inquisition of Kozilek
3 Thoughtseize
3 Doom Blade
2 Go for the Throat
1 Bitterblossom
3 Dismember
3 Painful Truths

Artifacts: 4

2 Nihil Spellbomb
2 Batterskull

Planeswalkers: 3

3 Liliana of the Veil

Creatures: 11

3 Phyrexian Crusader
3 Phyrexian Obliterator
2 Gray Merchant of Asphodel
2 Shriekmaw
1 Skithiryx, the Blight Dragon

Sideboard:

2 Dispel
2 Path to Exile
3 Abrupt Decay
2 Countersquall
4 Disenchant
2 Blood Baron of Vizkopa
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>>45347193
I lost all games before the pro tour when ppl actually had ulamog.

Now they're actually running the exact top eight lists or almost exact deck lists. How retarded can you be to do that?

You're full of shit. Do me a favour and run those exact same lists too, it's not that easy but to deal but I'd wipe yo ass clean

>>45347327
Kek, the deck happens to have two emerias but it ain't the so called azorious titan control babies netdeck
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>>45347381

Countersquall is garbage.
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>>45345980
seems like it deals with pretty much any eldrazi... i think it can also kill emrakul?

>>45347381
might wanna run urborg with all those colorless lands
why is path not main?
why go for the throat over victim of night?
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>>45347411
>running only 2 Emeria

Wew lad
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>>45347454
It seems slightly better than just Negate but I can swap it out for Negate.

>>45347490
I thought about having an Urborg or two, wasn't 100% sure and decided that having all my color sources being searchable was better than just 1 Urborg.

No Paths main because of having 8-10 removal spells main.

Go for the Throat because it is easier to cast and hits everything other than artifact dudes, which is why I pushed for more Doom Blades and Dismembers than GFTTs.
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>>45347411
Then post a list so we can ridicule you, ya smug bastard
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>>45347508
What didn't the faggot ever saw a deck with only two of these? Maybe it has to appear in a top eight to be acknowledged...

The "top 8 gays" or even the "top 1000 gays" like it in the ass, maybe you should ear their advice too retard
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>>45347490
yes it can kill emrakul assuming of course you live through a single attack of it considering shriekmaw is sorcery speed. I think it would be good in an esper deck abusing restoration angel
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Sell ThoughtKnot or hold on for a while?
>mfw declined 23$
>he's worth 15$
thoughtknot got me again boys
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>>45345980
Yes. If it said "spell or ability" it would be different, the kill effect is a triggered ability
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>>45347718

Sell. It's a Rare from a set that it's going to be opened to hell and back. No way it holds.
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>>45347607
> taunting me

I am not much of a retard to not have done it if I really wanted to by now.

Why interested if you guys even say it is shit from the start?

> Going through all the trouble of posting it so anyfag could copy or take advantage of my list.
Yeah right

My brew may still really be a shit after all, who knows, but I'm smarter than that, I am not gonna fall for that!
I'm out

I should've listen my friends advice, this place is indeed a shithole
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>>45347795
exactly right? But what about the long long run?
I'm thinking post-SoI. Attarkas Command went up to 20$ so maybe this thing could hold.
Idk i might trade for a fetch
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>>45347839
Rekt
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>>45347839

Top laff m8
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>>45347862
>>45347884

Ohh, that is working here's my list:

.|.

Glad to make you day
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>>45347839
It's like I'm back in 3rd grade, listening to That Kid talk about his holo first edition Charizard which he totally had
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what the shit is going on itt.
the rage. the memes. it all needs to end.
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>>45347998
Such a lust for (you)'s.
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>>45347950
Hey I have a first edition foil charizard. It was in the intro pack
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The time has finally come
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>>45347311
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>>45347950
>mfw i had 4 base set charizards, one of them holographic
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>>45348224
oops meant one was first edition. all were holographic i mistyped
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>>45348085
Inb4 monowhite Heroic control makes waves in modern
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So the Sepulchrivore is real... what are you guys thoughts?
3/4 would be dream
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>>45348384
>So the Sepulchrivore is real

U wot m8?
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Just watched a guy at 15 get his Emrakul deflecting palmed.
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>>45347856
Eldrazi will eat bans by then, and he'll be worth much less.
Sell now while he's seeing tons of play.
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>>45348456
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>>45340193
T1 Mimic.
T2. Thought-Knot Seer, take Ensnaring Bridge.

But seriously, World Breaker gets around that problem. Just bring him back from the yard for 3, exile a permanent, and get back to swinging.
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>>45340162
The only good eldrazi art in the whole block.
Anyway, Bx Eldrazi has now beaten 12Post, MUD and motherfucking Shops in pro testing.
They won.
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>>45348542
It'll be a 2/3
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>>45348542

No. I already saw the spoiler but how is it real?

I thought the madness wording was wrong? Also the collector's number and holo-thing are conveniently missing.
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>>45348384
Looks like a madness cost of 2. So probably just a 2/2.
It would be wonderful to be wrong however.
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What's the best Naya deck I can make without Tarmogoyfs?

>inb4 Burn
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>>45348765

Zoo
Naya CoCo
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3-1 with Gobbogeddon tonight for 16 dollary-doos in credz

2-1 vs America
>Blood Moon is a good card right guiz

2-0 vs Burn
>Got me to 1, then I Goblin Bust.
>sweating_man_with_towel.jpg

0-2 vs Predator Ooze Devotion
>Turns out I don't have a whole lot of game against Indestructible Fatties, also Vines to my Angel in response to Kiki.

2-1 vs Affinity
>Maindeck Pyroclasms lel
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>>45348627
Mythic tho...
At hardcast, a 2/4 with upside is standard.. And good ones do come from time to time (4/5 for 3). Delerium is situational enough that it should peak at 5/6. 3/4 without it, which kinda sucks, so it seems "balanced" (jk just a poormans goyf)
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>>45348765

Kiki-Chord
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>>45348765
stompy. Fuck naya
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>>45348793
hilarious how you didn't fucking play against Eldrazi, the only deck that actually matters
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>>45348813
Also this, green twin is dope. Village bellringer or resto and kiki, mana dork walls and toolbox spells
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>>45348871

Deck costs a thousand shekels. It's going to be a while until most people at LGSs actually put it together.
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>>45348871
There were several in the room, two of them taking 2nd and 3rd with 3-0-1 records (I think. Could have been Chord and Eldrazi - didn't really care), Fish on top at 4-0, then the 3-1s on breakers being Infect, Ooze Stompy and myself.

I'm not super worried about Eldrazi. I've been playtesting against it at least 3 hours a night since the PT.

You seem super fucking mad though. Why don't you go take a nap?
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>>45348085
for all those swords to come down.
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>>45349349
no sir, the swords must stay elevated
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>>45349126
I just sold Eldrazi at the peak and got out of modern. I usually play online and I got bored after the 100th mirror match. It's honestly a fun deck to play against other decks in modern, no matter how anti-Eldrazi they are, but I know it's going to be banned, and that anyone good will be playing it, so I said fuck it.

>MFW I can now buy playsets of every card legal in pauper

How much does draft suck right now?
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>>45348793
Even my jank Zada combo is better then this.
>>
http://modernnexus.com/on-banning-and-beating-eldrazi/

Thoughts?
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>>45343292
No, Legacy Burn can kill you with 2 and 6cmc spells.and takes no damage from it's mana-base.
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unfortunate choices
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>>45348583
thought knot from the waste up is god tier art
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>>45349696

The whole "X deck vs anti-X deck" is already the sign of a bad format. Sure it can become "Abzan CoCo vs Eldrazi" but how fucking boring can a format like that be? Sure you can put together your jank lockdown brew. It's gonna lose against non-Eldrazi decks.


Also Modern is already packed full of linear decks that can only be stopped by drawing specific hate. I don't think we need another one.

All this Eldrazi chaos has only made me realize how much Modern sucks as a format and how little of a shit Wizards gives about it.
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>>45345776
Yes, we need Darkest Hour in SOI.
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>>45349828

The funny thing is that this already happened once with Zendikar and Avatar. Wizards was super scared people were going to compare Zendikar to Pandora (both being adventurey floaty rock worlds) which is why "Priceless Treasures" and fetches ended up in the set to encourage sales.
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>>45349376
Oh no!
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>>45340162
I just beat 3 eldrazi (2 BW, 1 UR) at Modern Starcity Nights with the most stupid deck ever.
Not putting this shit in my tappedout
4x Marsh Flats
2x Bloodstained Mire
2x Windswept Heath
4x Godless Shrine
4x Ghost Quarter
4x Plains
4x Swamp
4x Spirit Link
4x Vampiric Link
4x Disenchant
4x Revoke Existence
4x Dark Confidant
4x Bitterblossom
4x Soul Warden
4x Soul's Attendant
2x Doom Blade
2x Victim of Night
SB
2x Pithing Needle
2x Sorin, Solemn Visitor
3x Go fot the Throat
4x Ajani's Pridemate
4x Kor Firewalker
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>>45350338
anon that's hilarious
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Rus eldrazi gods

>keep spiking
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>>45349828
There's a "What i played, what i expected, what I got" image on /v/ that has Bloodborne as what they played, Innistrad as what they expected, and Rise of the Eldrazi as what they got
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>>45340162
first for pumas
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>>45350327
Seems decent against Affinity or Delver
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>>45350585
Marrow Shards is strictly better.
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>>45350632
>strictly better
This time it really is
>>
Ignoring any negatives related to cost and on a scale from "fucking kill yourself nigger" to "barely tier 4, enjoy losing to aggro", just how bad is a superfriends themed deck in an average local fnm meta?
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>>45349828

I really hope the twist is Marit Lage.

You'll still be getting your eldritch horror, just not the one you expected.
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>>45350870
Justice Pals is barely Tier 4
>>
Lands(18)
4 Mutavault
8 Plains
2 Ghost Quarter
1 Rustic Clachan
1 Windbrisk Heights
2 Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx
Creatures(22)
4 Goldmeadow Stalwart
4 Goldmeadow Dodger
4 Wizened Cenn
4 Knight of Meadowgrain
4 Mistmeadow Skulk
2 Somnomancer
Instants & Sorceries(8)
4 Path to Exile
4 Brave the Elements
Other Spells(12)
4 Daybreak Coronet
4 Aether Vial
4 Honor of the Pure
Sideboard
2 Rest in peace
2 Relic of Progenitus
2 Kithkin Rabble
2 Somnomancer
2 Dismember
2 Ratchet Bomb
2 Stony Silence
1 Sunscour

Rate my jank kithkins
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>>45351423
slower than affinity

folds to board wipes

for actual recommendations you should probably consider swapping 2 mutavaults for 2 more GQs, Ghost Quarter is probably the best card in modern right now
>>
Check out this list. Haven't figured out the mana base yet but its 24-25 lands in a midrange deck in WBR colors so basically Jund manabase edited a bit

4 Dark Confidant
4 Fulminator Mage
2 Hero of Bladehold
2 Zurgo Helmsmasher
1 Tombstalker

4 Lightning Bolt
4 Lightning Helix
4 Path to Exile
4 Inquisition of Kozilek
4 Lingering Souls
3 LotV
And various other cards. This is just a rough draft atm but how does it look
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>>45351478
I'm not expecting to win with this, I just love the kithkin artwork and their cute lore. If I do decide to take
this out and play competitively I'll probably add in more Ghost Quarters, maybe swap some stuff out of
sideboard, but thanks.
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>>45351590
You NEED k-command. It absolutely shreads and enables mardu
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>>45342146

I've never thought of the day Lantern Control would get to the 2% of the meta.

Hell, it wasnt even 1% years ago.
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>>45351944
It totally ruin Affinity AND eldrazi decks.
But since this is probably the worst matchup for eldrazi i guess they'll bring more hate if lantern is played more.

The only thing that pushes people away from lantern is that it's probably the most difficult deck to play right now in modern.

And playing it for 15 rounds is a nightmare.

Even not having to draw or go to time in every round is a challenge with these dumb opponents that are fully aware you have the lock on, like 5 mill rocks, 2 lanterns, 2 bridges, they will not draw anything relevant until they're milled but insist on not conceding because "i might draw something" no dumb fuck all you're going to draw is what i'll let you draw and it'll be shit.
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>>45351891
Yeah I'll put in 2-3 of that and maybe 2 Crackling Doom
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>>45350887
You have no fucking clue how happy that would make me.
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Am I crazy, or is Ensnaring Bridge in a Burn sideboard a good idea?
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>>45353134
You are crazy
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>>45353134
It's goodish in legacy burn.
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>>45353134
Nigga what
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>>45353150
>>45353180

Hear me out, we dump out hands by turn 3 usually anyway. It stops Eldrazi which is exploding in popularity, and also hits Zoo, Merfolk, Infect, Hatebears, Kiki-Chord, and any other random aggros that show up.
>>
>>45351590
>>45351891
what do you think of sword of light and shadow here? recurring fulminator sounds pretty fun

>>45353221
i've actually wondered if a burn shell could be built around maindeck bridge
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>>45353134

Burning bridges is a legit strategy.

In Legacy anyway
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>>45353134
depending on what your plan is to bring it in for, anything can be in a sideboard
>>
does lightning berserker fit into RDW?

what about running mardu scout instead of hellspark elemental? i feel like it's just a more repeatable version anyway?

i have mutagenic growth sideboard but would brute force be a better option?

i just bought the deck today and came home to see if i had anything to switch out is why i'm asking. still new to modern.
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>>45353679
just play burn
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>>45353782
only burn spells?

this is the list i'm playing btw, minus lava spike because i'm waiting on them in the mail.
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>>45353812
>>45353782
whoops
http://www.gatheringmagic.com/kevincrimin-060515-playing-on-a-budget-modern-extreme-budget-burn/
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>>45348572
Mimic can be spellbombed/pyroclasmed/decay'd, there are 4 Bridges mb, you can Ghost Quarter + extract eye. Worldbreaker needs to get through Spellskite and the opponent needs to draw one and not have to discard it before turn 5-6.
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>>45353134
Legacy needs it because of Reanimator, cheated Emrakul and Lands that go off t1/2 on a nut draw, Modern not so much.
>>
>>45341883
Link to story?
>>
I know we had this topic

>Eye
a ban would hurt another deck (tron)
it breaks several rules regarding how much mana a land can "produce" ... but, it is legendary, needs another legendary land to even produce mana and it does not lower colorless costs
also, it is only bonkers with one specific line of play involving Mimic

>Mimic
this card gives the deck the ability to play some rare lines of play with explosive damage t2
but then again Mimics are 2/1 and the PT already showed Gut Shot as an awesome T1 answer - thinking of something like Forked Bolt simply 2for1 trading here makes we wonder if we are overestimating the whole Mimic combo

>SSG
Chalice T1 is not new and everyone who knew Chalice before the PT knew about the possibility of Chalice
as someone who played Chalice for years in Legacy I also feel like people are overestimating things
Chalice gets hit by a boatload of efficient 2cmc removal
also SSG is card disadvantage at it's best

>Temple
this is kinda tricky
temple is what pays for the colorless costs and is a sol land without a downside - it does not even suffer from the legendary problem Eye has
while Eye is involved in the T1 Mimic combo it is Temple that enables the remaining combo and TKS T2

So, my conclusion is somehow, that despite everyone arguing, that Eye can "produce" more mana, it's only problem is the Mimic combo that requires a Temple T2 to be really explosive
Temple would also not hurt any other deck

So, if Eldrazi keep on being oppressive I think we will see a Temple ban before anything else despite it being less "broken" on the surface than Eye

debate me please
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>>45355049
>implying that WotC thinks shit through like this
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>>45355073
so you mean if Eldrazi keeps winning they will kneejerk ban Eye?
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>>45355087
Something like that.
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new thread

>>45355096
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