Song of Swords: Emu War When

>>45236722
Is the translation for that still deader than MJ? Or has someone picked the manga up?

>>45238111
It's up to like chapter 35 now.

>>45236722
Character creation walkthrough.
http://paste2.org/sa123865

Schools explained.
http://paste2.org/DxGKHzD5

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>>45238688
Fuckin' A mate. Cheers.

>>45236722
What's this thing from anyway?
Seen pages of it posted here and there.

>>45238804
And no sooner do I post it than I spot a mistake, I forgot to pay the 5sp for Soldier school, and I screwed up the proficiency PCP.

BRB.

>>45239177
Gunka no Baltzar. Mango about a Prussian guy trying to modernize this backwards little kingdom's army.

>>45239290
Huh. Nifty.

>>45238688
>>45238804
Revised Chargen Walkthrough.

http://paste2.org/aKfOBmWJ

>>45239456
You mention that proficiencies in a school don't grant access to talents if said proficiency is being boosted{Noble Primary for example} but do they get access to higher level maneuvers earlier?

When will Galt return to us, and deliver us from this hell?

>>45240133
Never. You're here forever. No Saviour will come for you this time.
THIS is eternity. THIS is hell.
Close your eyes and know, it's S C Y T H I A N S forever.

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>>45240390

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>>45240390

I'm working on Schools and Proficiencies right now to try and get rid of some of the detritus.

Basically Primaries and Secondaries served no purpose, and a lot of the wording is archaic, as you guys have been saying recently. Also, adding Proficiencies to existing Schools has gone unaddressed for too long.

Abridged version: You have to level the proficiency to at least 50% of the School's level, and then pay the School's basic cost. Then the Proficiency enters the School and is raised up to the School's level.

>>45241424
>I'm working on Schools and Proficiencies right now to try and get rid of some of the detritus.
>Basically Primaries and Secondaries served no purpose, and a lot of the wording is archaic, as you guys have been saying recently.

Can you give us an abridged version of your plans on how this is changing, too?

>>45241993
Basically there are no primary or secondary proficiencies anymore. You just have Profs in the School which are all at the School level. The cost of adding proficiencies to the school have been reduced to compensate for this.

This really simplifies the whole process for beginners. Making a school sort of goes like this.

1: You want a School
2: You pick a School
3: You pick the Proficiencies you want up to the limit of Profs for that School. If you're human, these are free. If you're not, each one costs 1 Arc.
4: You pay the base cost for the School. If there's an additional cost for Profs, you pay that too.
5: You have a School at level 1.

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>>45242340
I like it.

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>>45244627

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Hey fags guess what's happening tomorrow?
Tomorrow I'm going to play PATHFINDER with the guys from Opaque Industries.

PATHFINDER, a game that FUCKING SUCKS, but which has a long history with our group and has been a bonding experience since before the days of Riddle of Steel.

But since I FUCKING LOVE YOU GUYS and I FUCKING HATE MY LIFE I'm going to let YOU TELL ME WHAT SORT OF CHARACTER TO PLAY.

Doubles decides what JR plays in Pathfinder tomorrow.

Did we ever get anything more on the Unkindlies pdf thing? I've got one from like a month ago which cuts off around Flip Halberd.

>>45246155
Unchained Monk of many styles.

>>45246155
>55
I think that means you get to pick.

>>45246155
Looks like your pick, mango.
But I'll pitch in
>half-elf divination wizard w/ paragon surge

>>45246155
Damn. Guess I'll make a fighter.

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>>45247655
>>45246155
>DoppelDoppels
Now you've got to do it.

>>45248672
What in the living fuck is even happening in this picture?

>>45247655
Your challenge is to not make them in nay way inspired by Tattered Realms OR a genocidal faction from the twentieth century.

>>45247655
I double-dog dare you to make that an underage elf girl fighter. You're in the shit already on account of playing PF, might as well wallow in it.

>>45250140
Or otherwise Slavic.

I have decided... To go Nuclear.

>>45250705
I have no idea what this means.

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>>45250727
It means we Snek nao. Ranger/Barbarian maybe.

>>45250818
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kx2eaK0VqQc
Hold Fast Jimmy.

>>45250818
>>45250705
You'll just end up being played like a fiddle. Invest in good Will saves.

>>45252473
If he wants to go Nuclear he had better have some bad saves.

>>45236722
How would you stat Bernd "ya'll gonna panic when you see this germanic" Baltzar?

Jimmy what are your favourite Metal Gear or Metal Gear inspired songs?

This is actually /SoS/ relevant.

>>45256335
lol if it's not A Stranger I Remain.

>>45256335
Any opportunity to repost this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cs5OQrdlq2c

>>45256335
It's obviously something from MGR.

>>45258742
Hey man, Snake Eater is a classic.

>>45249020
It's a chimera, with the head of a tiger, a Japanese man and a sword. Obviously.

>>45249020
It's a dude riding his tiger.

>>45260871
Then why are both of his legs behind the tiger?

>>45261015
Maybe he's just hugging the tiger then?

>>45239631
I asked that question last thread and didn't get a satisfactory enough answer for me to put in the walkthrough, so I omitted it.

Alright lads, I'm off on an adventure for the weekend, so I probably won't be posting.

Stay sharp, SoS.

>>45263993
It's already sunday, man.

A bit late to have a weekend adventure.

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So has anybody used the Integrated Pistol option in a game yet?

>>45269613
Much like real life, it's not good for much more than a gimmick.
I've yet to see it.

Anyone here played any non-German or Japanese Axis in Bolt Action? What units are worthwhile taking alongside a German army?

>>45271150
Wrong thread?

>>45269974
GMing, I've only had it for crazy gimmick enemies that the players haven't even encountered let alone fought. It's better to just carry a pistol.

>>45273465
>It's better to just carry two pistols
ftfy

>>45274010
>It's better to just pay for two servants to carry a box filled with pistols and constantly reload them for you, before handing them to you so you can fire them endlessly
One of my players did this. It fit the character very well.

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>>45274255
At that point, you might as well get yourself a custom-made revolver musket or two.

>>45275081
And servants to carry/reload them? Brilliant!

>>45274255
What a great plan.

>>45256335
Nuclear is pretty good.

Did we even get a Room Temperature Factoid this week?

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So, as it's come up before, the current skill system for SoS (and by extension also Weltraumwal) is a bit awkward. It's technically functional, but also cumbersome and not very engaging.

So I sat down and tried to make something principally similar but a bit more versatile and lightweight, on the off-chance that I stumble upon a feasible idea or two in the process. It's sacrificing quite a bit of granularity, but should all around be easier to handle. If nothing else, it'd save space on the character sheet.

Note that this is all pretty prototypical, so the particular numbers and definitions for skills are by no means intended to be set in stone, they should just give a general idea for the overall ballpark this is aiming for.

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>>45285169

>>45285169
Where does riding come into this, my man?
A survival or athletics specialty?

>>45285169
I like limiting dice. One of my players minmaxed like fucking crazy and has a theoretical maximum of something like 26 dice to persuade people. That's crazy, both in my inability to reasonably challenge the character and in logistics at the table.

>>45285628
For the purposes of combat, I'd probably put it into the Warfare section.

>>45285169
Good shit, anon. Good shit.
Once Jimmy gets the doc and starts incorporating bits from CotV, with this, I think SoS 2.0 could be a huge shift towards quality.

I wonder if the skill list isn't pared down too much here, but I can say that it was very hard to be a skilled person in 1.9.9. Much more than a deadly person.
At least we aren't GURPS

>>45285169
I hate to be that guy as I obtain am and I get that this is just a draft but assistants with two ranks in a skill are only as good as untrained and because SoS rounds down those with one are worse because they do nothing.

>>45286270
It's probably a bit too obscure, but the idea is that each level in a skill gives you +2 to the skill rating, i.e. the number of dice. So an assistant with level 1 in a skill would contribute 1 die, one with level 2 would contribute 2 dice and so on.

Have we had any drawfags in here recently?

>>45287195
There was coffee who did Vosca comic: in the navy

Some dude who did the Zells on docks: years have passed since that era

Some bloke who did one page of Ballad comic: was never heard of again

Not too many drawfags in these threads.

>>45287195
had any here recently in drawfag have?

>>45288070
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>>45287678
>>45288857
Sorry, but can you run that by me one more time?

>>45285169
Hey, this is pretty great.

>>45295647
How's the editing coming? Can you tell us anything of what's changed other than proficiencies?

>>45288857
>was who coffee
I liked coffee. He was not the drawfag we deserved, nor the one we needed. But he was ours.
Our depressed, gay finnish drawfag.

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Can someone tell me what it is that the 1330 knight is wearing on top of his mail? An arming doublet? A brigandine? Any ideas where I could find more drawings and photos of it?

>>45297794
It's most likely supposed to be a brigandine. 14th century was the time when transitional armour was in full swing, where people started augmenting the regular hauberk of maille with a variety of other pieces.

>>45297794
Coat of plates, I guess

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>>45297794
Coat of Plates, which is is pretty similar to a brigandine except the plates are much larger. The plates are also attached to the outer layer of fabric/leather only, rather than being snadwiched between two layers are is often common on brigandines.

Most reconstructions of CoPs take their inspiration from the battlefield excavations of Wisby (1361) in Sweden. They were old-fashioned by 1361 but a large selection of styles that are good representatives of CoPs in use decades previously were found at the stite.

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>>45297794
coat of plates.

Imagine you had early guns (early 16th century level), only the only thing you needed to fire them was a bullet and a separate "explosive" cartridge thing. How likely would it be that loading mechanisms that were near the trigger of the gun (e.g. bolt, breach) would be developed if literally everyone rode horseback?

Bear in mind I know less than nothing about guns (hence "near the trigger").

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>>45298694
Basically you mean if breech-loading guns could be made with 16th-centruy level tech?

Essentially, it's not impossible (hell, the very first cannons in the early middle ages were breech-loaded), but it won't work well. It's not like the basic principle of the thing is beyond the tech, but as usual the devil lies in the details. The main problem is that if you have a breech that in some way can be opened, you're introducing an escape point for the gas. That's bearable with a small hole that connects the pan to the barrel, but if you've something like a bolt-action or break-action, the gas can escape along the entire seam. This is particularly problematic with black powder, since it burns relatively slowly, so that you'll have still-burning or not yet unburnt powder coming the user's way.

Coincidentally, such a gun actually existed (though it came later than in your example), the Dreyse Needle Gun. The basic idea was quite ingenious: Bundle black powder, bullet, and primer together in a paper cartridge, and strike with a needle through the cartridge to set off the primer that's glued to the bullet.
While it did offer an excellent rate of fire for its time, it ran into exactly the problem described above: A lot of gas escaped through the breech, leading to markedly lower muzzle velocities and as such lower effective range than competing designs. Also, the needle had a habit of breaking.

The thing that eventually turned made breech-loading feasible was using brass as the material for the casing. The nice thing about brass is that it's nice and flexible. So when the charge is set off, the gas pressure causes the casing to expand until it sits flush against the chamber and seals the whole thing off, so that none of the gas can escape the wrong way. Once the bullet has left the barrel and the pressure decreases, the casing will shrink back down to its original dimensions, making it easy to extract.

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>>45297794
>Any ideas where I could find more drawings and photos of it?

Here's a set of reconstructions of the CoPs found in the Visby graves: http://www.hoashantverk.se/hantverk/hoas_rustningar/index.html

As most of the finds IIRC are just the metal plates, with the leather or fabric cover long gone, the shells are probably somewhat speculative at times. In particular I suspect that that using leather for nearly all of them may not reflect period practice, from what I've understood odds are that cloth would have been the more common material there.

As for the relationship between CoP and brigandine, the former would be the immediate precursor to the latter.

>>45298833
Excellent, thanks for all the info anon. Seems like it'll work fine, then -- the guns run on magic that works by exerting force along a direction, so there's no gas to escape.

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>>45298694
Breech loaded cannons go back to the early 15th century, and the earliest evidence I've heard of for breech loading in hand-held guns is form the 1440's, using the mechanism seen here. Going by naval guns from the general era, that removable chamber piece is probably one of many, kept pre-loaded. So essentially primitive cartridges.

The big thing for cavalry is probably developing a lock that doesn't require a smouldering match, and which has a pan cover to keep the priming powder in place as you ride around. Ie the wheellock, which did turn up around the early 16th century. Getting the pan cover in place so you can just swap cartridges, crank it up and fire without priming may take some tinkering, but should be entirely possible in that time if a customer really wanted.

I'm far less certain about where clock making was at the time, which would seem like the relevant bit if you want the spring to last for multiple shots without re-winding.

One thing to keep in mind is fouling, shooting more than a dozen shots without a thorough cleaning of the barrel is probably outright dangerous (unless you start using severely undersized bullets, diminishing power and utterly mauling the accuracy), and many in the 16th century appear to have considered around half a dozen shots to be all you wanted to put through a gun in a session.

>>45298942
Would cleaning remain a problem if no gunpowder or other chemical explosives were used?

>>45299050
Not unless whatever kind of magic you're using leaves some kind of residue behind.

>>45298885
Basically magically powered gauss guns? I can dig it.

>>45301309
Sort of. The magic works by forcing the bullet to materialise with great speed *somewhere* in front of it. As in, it could be three hundred thousand miles to the left, but it will be in front of you. In order to guide the bullet, you have to confine it (as it can't materialise through solid metal).

Later guns forego the bullet and momentarily convert a localised tube of space into the essence of fire.

Both of these work essentially by messing with the records of the daemons that keep the whole world in filing cabinets.

>>45298694
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kalthoff_repeater

>>45302374
That's awesome. Aristocrat-soldiers are definitely using those.

>>45302435
Similarly, revolver-type feed mechanisms weren't unknown at the time either, see >>45275081

>>45301717
hello """"""""""""el """""""""""gran""""""""""" capitan""""""""""""

>>45303196
>""""""""""""
What.

>>45298885
Magic guns seem like something that someone would have tried in Vosca. Jimmy, how much sorcerous power would it take to have magic guns?

>>45285782
Warfare seems to be about tactical planning and logistics more than physical military-related activity. Maybe it'll work better in Ahtletics?

>>45285169
I like this a lot.

>>45305703
I'd say athletics for sure, or a separate animal handling skill.

>>45310486
Animal handling would probably be best. I would prefer if not every character who can run can ride, just for the dramatic element of characters that can't ride horses without just sitting and hanging on.

>>45304230
Sorcery has great difficulty controlling air pressure, which makes emulating the exact mechanics of a firearm difficult--but it has been done. Zoph Zavile of Kar-Druss designed what amounts to an air-gun that automatically refills its pressure chamber over time, not by directly controlling the pressure, but rather by using sorcery to power a small pump fitted to the weapon.

The result allows the weapon to shoot a round that can pierce a wooden plank at a thousand yards every three seconds or so, from a gravity-operated magazine that extends from the top of the weapon.

However, equipping an army with such weapons would be impossible--they would suck so much flow out of the local warren that they would all slow their workings to a crawl if you had more than ten of them or so in the area. They are also enormously expensive.

Only a few dozen have been made, either by Zavile himself or by his apprentices and colleagues, mostly as hunting weapons for nobles. One made its way as far as the Krajina, where it is owned by Baron Arkham of Redwater. Others may have found their way into still stranger hands...

>>45311116
Neato.

>>45236722
>>45238111
Thanks for letting me know this manga exists. I have a new favourite thing to obsess over and gradually grow to hate as it turns further and further from what I expect and hope for.

>>45311116
How about Pyromancy, could you create small fireballs instead of having to load powder?

>>45311684
Pyromancy doesn't "set" well in complex devices, but a pyromancer could design a weapon for his own use that he activates not through any mechanism, but simply by willing the powder to ignore.

This would make it more reliable, and probably more accurate since there would be no flash on the firing end of the gun, and no trigger to pull, potentially disrupting one's aim.

>>45311866
I was totally talking about a personal device of the 'mancer.

>>45312054
Well, just such a thing may exist. It would be especially useful for pyromancers who want a weapon, but don't want it to be obvious that they can do magic.

>>45312835
If you get banned again, can you work on Esoterica?

>>45313034
Isn't the "Esoterica" what got him banned in the first place?

>>45315512
No? Why would it?

>>45315512
What? He got banned for being mean to liberals. The fuck are you talking about?

>>45315596
>>45315669
We were on page 10, and that was evidently a better disguised bump than I had hoped for.

>>45315669
He got banned for shitposting against "liberals".

Not that I have anything against that.

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>>45316791
I mostly get banned for inadvertantly breaking content rules. I don't think I've ever been explicitly banned for being mean to liberals.

Also, take your hat off for the true hero of XCom.

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>>45316938
>I mostly get banned for inadvertantly breaking content rules.
What, NSFW on blue boards?

>MFW the images in captcha change as soon as I click on them

>>45316938
I always imagined that guy spending an inordinate amount of time before every meeting making sure that the backlight is just right, so that he can have that ominous shadow going on.

>>45317139
Don't be ridiculous. He has people for that.

Easton about to make it big:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MH9s7dZ6uhs

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>>45317492

>>45316938
Jimmy have you considered using meme magic to support your Kickstarter?

>>45317979
What is meme magic? Pyromancy?

>>45317492
I have to get my Saracen roommate to translate this for me. I wonder where the newscasters are from. One guy in the comments is saying Algeria.

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>>45318371
Prepare yourself

>>45318371
No, that's magic fueled by memes

>>45318957
Holy shit, the chances for that series of events to happen...

>>45319889
Now here's the real question though; did an extra dimensional being with no concept of human interaction latch on the Bane psychic beacon or did Baneposting create an entity that used CERN's energy from the breach to try and manifest?

>>45319889
There's also things like /mu/'s Bomb Jovi and that one musician who died late last year.

>>45319889
>>45321597
It's basically the hundred monkeys on typewriters thing. If you go through a sufficient number of iterations of random events, sooner or later you'll end up with a pattern just by coincidence.

>>45318371
Basically bringing about something very unlikely by turning support for it into a meme. Since people don't meme rationally, you can subconsciously herd people into doing your bidding against what should be their better judgement.

Donald Trump is usually heralded as a master wizard of meme magic, because he has convinced the alt-right that he's the second coming of Adolf Hitler instead of what he is--a moderate liberal with a loud voice. He has done this through meme magic. By making his ascension a meme, people who would never have supported anybody have come out to back him.

Iowa was a grim warning. A New York city-slicker who entered a church twice in his life (once for each wedding) lost by ONE delegate in the Cornpicker state.

The power is real. Jimmy must not be allowed to play with this kind of energy.

>>45322612
Meme magic is the ability to make your followers believe your every bed-wetting is a master political machination.

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>>45321635
I wonder who could be behind this post

>>45322877
Fuck off back to Ireland, mick.

>>45322948
You can't immigrate to Europe unless you're from Syria these days. Guess you're stuck with us.

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>>45316938
He will be watching, from that great poorly-lit screening room in the sky.

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>>45311116
Goddamn, can you imagine how damn terrifying this would be as a sharpshooter's weapon? Just patrolling around some day when suddenly people just start dropping like a full company opened fire, but there's no cloud of smoke or anything that could even tell you which way to run. It's like that one napoleonic air rifle on crack.

It's Tuesday so can you try to make some nonsense up this week Jimmy?

>>45327646
King in the center was a popular northern pagan dance play for kids, before the death of their gods. The titular "King in the center" has become a deity for a cult that can be found dancing the old dance.

They say the better you dance and sing, the closer to center of the dancing ring you are drawn. Nobody has danced or sang their way to the dead center, yet.

>>45325462
girandoni girandoni shoot me a french jabroni

>>45325462
I imagine that the upwards magazine would interfere with careful aiming at long distances.

>>45285169
Needs some sort of Animal centered skill category, to account of training, knowing, or riding beasts.

Something of the Occult is also probably called for.