Jumpchain CYOA Thread #679: Gotta Go Fast Edition

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Okay, sorry guys, I fucked this up.

>>45117931
You had one Job Anon.
One Job.

YOU'RE TOO SLOW.

>>45117931
Worst. Thread. Ever.

>>45118000
IT'S NO USE!

>>45117931
You're no Once and Former OP

>>45117931
How did you manage to fuck it up THAT badly?
>>45103945
https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B20r6rsFLOg_Zk5RdVdya3hJNnc&usp=sharing

>>45118016
DAMN! NOT HERE!

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>>45117931
>being this slow

>>45118042
I'm on my phone and copied the link instead of the text. Which for some reason made it 6 times longer.

>>45117529
Given the amount of power that's being offered, I don't think it's a bad idea. There's precedent for making a powerful option have a mandatory drawback and granting them no CP for it.

>>45117931
Could've deleted.

>>45118175
I tried. Deleting stuff never works on my phone.

>>45118175
Let him wear his shame, as a warning to all other would be OP's.

So I was looking at the Godzilla jump, and it mentioned Toho Godzilla. Can someone give me a summary of the kind of stuff he could do, since he apparently makes things "super easy"?

Jumpers, what jump do you wish you had taken earlier? What jump later? Why?

Can I use Conjoined Conjures to overcome the Vancian limitations of D&D magic?

>>45118394
Mostly the same things as the Godzilla from the animated series, but better. He was bigger, stronger, had hotter atomic breath, and was way more durable. Seriously, don't try nuking him. Not only will it not work, he'll absorb the radiation and transform into "Burning Godzilla", who is a walking nuclear meltdown that when it finally does burn itself out will be reborn like a phoenix from any surviving gojirasaurs left in the world. Which...well, there probably aren't any in the animated series universe, so it would get rid of the threat of Godzilla eventually. Just at the cost of huge amounts of death and destruction along the way.

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>>45117834
REMEMBER WHEN YOU MESSED UP THE OP? THAT WAS ME /JC/, ME!

And what else is me? New drawback for Speedsters (and anyone else feeling they need more Speedsters in their life).

http://pastebin.com/Lfp7fav1

>>45118465
True Lies

>>45118643
>New drawback for Speedsters
I like it.

>>45118394
They showed American Godzilla (old version) fight Toho Godzilla in one of the movies. She was defeated in seconds.

>>45118643
I'm OK with this.
Also, real quick, is Pathokinesis supposed to be any emotion or choose when you take it?

>>45118643
>evil speedsters who are faster than you and immune to other abilities
Well...that's certainly worth at least 600 CP.

>>45118465
Career Model.

It's got some of the best pretty boosting perks in the chain, and being able to customize your own level and distribution of beauty is great. Add to that the fashion house bit and you've got the chance to really setup the rest of your chain for serious success.

>>45118796
Yeah.

>>45118799
Did anyone jump there and not be a model? It's distasteful to me.

VECNA. I just remembered who broke into Sigil, it was VECNA, who stalemated the Lady after being backed by some sort of proto-god called the Serpent.

>>45118465
Later? Well...Problem Sleuth would've probably been less of a mindscrew with more centuries of experience.

Earlier? JoJo, no question.

>>45118870
>Did anyone jump there and not be a model? It's distasteful to me.
The jump is distasteful to you?

>>45118945
Being a model.

>>45118870
I was a designer.

>>45118919
That's from "DIE VECNA DIE!"

Which isn't canon and everyone hates. It was one of the adventures meant to show one of the possible transition between 2e and 3e and kill your party.

>>45118964
Interesting. Why?

>>45118465
I just switch around their order in my word document whenever I feel like one should be earlier or later.

>>45118990
I don't like strutting around and showing off my body. At best I'm an emaciated mannequin, at worst it's pornographic.

>>45118744
Why True Lies specifically?

>>45119032
Why not?

>>45118077
That makes me think of Barry, everytime.

>>45119019
Huh. I mean, you don't /have/ to be emaciated. You could build your jumper/model however you like.

All the same, thanks for the answer.

>>45119086
I just used the stereotype (which is mostly reality in the fashion circuit) to make my post a little more descriptive. I know by the jump I wouldn't have to be.

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>>45118870
I was a Photographer.

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>>45118465
>Earlier

Order of the Stick. Then my Druid companion could Reincarnate people.

>Later
RWBY. My stealth wasn't stealthy enough and my attempts at keikaku disruption went - well, not horribly wrong, but pretty sloppy.

>>45119296
>"There's no such thing as pure evil"
>Setting has living beings under constant seige by literally soulless killing machines that live only to kill

>>45119422
Blake's a hypocrite, anyway.

>>45119422
If they don't have souls, can they be evil? Your description sounds more like animals which are amoral, not immoral.

>>45119422
Isn't there a BUT GRIMM ARE JUST MISUNDERSTOOD WILD ANIMALS YOU GUYS girl among team RWBY? Pretty sure it's her.

>>45119422
I think the logic is that evil requires moral agency, which Grimm don't have. It's still a dumb claim to make, though.

>>45119502
Doesn't that mean Demons aren't evil then, since in Christianity angels have no free will?

>>45119519
Angels do have free will in Christian theology.

>>45119519
Well, fallen angels would have needed some degree of free will to rebel ans fall in the first place, wouldn't they?

>>45118467
Probably depend what you Conjoined it with?

>>45119539
Isn't the idea that only humans have free will?

>>45119485
Animals kill things to eat. Grimm just kill things.

>>45119519
>Christianity angels have no free will
Gonna need you to cite that one.

See: >>45119539 and >>45119544

>>45119539
I don't think Christian theology knows or cares I'd they do or not.

>>45119485
Morality =/= reliant on dualism
read the greeks you massive cocklord

>>45119544
Maybe it's a work?

>>45119565
Don't Grimm do that because they feed on negative feelings though?

>>45119563
No. I don't know where you got that from, but the answer is no.

>>45119578
>cocklord

I-is that a compliment?

>>45119519
Blake is a teenage girl with magical powers, not a theologian.

>>45119643
Which one is Blake? I never hear people talk about her.

>>45119578
You do realize that much of western Christian though is borrowed from the Greek tradition, yes? This includes dualism, which is more a facet of Plato and Aristotle influenced western Christianity than eastern.

>>45119665
The girl in that gif anon posted here. >>45119296

>>45119618
They're attracted to it, whether they feed on it or not is unknown. Probably not, though, since they've lowered the numbers of people and those potential negative energy so far.
Notably, they can learn, and older Grimm become more intelligent, even to the point of having strategy. They still try to kill everyone. Kind of sinks the "no agency, can't be evil" argument.

>>45118870
I was tempted to be That Guy who crashes the shoots to throw rotten fruit, or That Guy who ices the catwalks, but then I decided to be That Guy who slips in to sample all the buffets and hobknob with the pretty folk while everyone assumes he came with someone else before escaping with a bottle in one hand and some model's number in the other, just ahead of Security.

>>45119723
So the grimm are the Johj?

>>45119578
>Greeks
>Not dualist
Go read the Phaedo and then come talk to me.

A comment from the last thread got me thinking.

Supposing that you were so inclined, how would you create your own magical girls? Say you jump somewhere without magic and you wanted to make a, or a couple, meguca. How would you go about doing it?

>>45119997
First, we'd have to make a deal.

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>>45118870
I was a designer.

I don't really like the spotlight. I'd rather be Edna than Elastigirl.

>>45120060
So you are both tiny people who like to criticize people's style?

>>45120029
Yeah, but how do you pull that off pre spark? Are there any perks that'd let you pull of Kubei-style deal making?

>>45119997
I dunno, probably Song Magic. D&D magic systems are powerful, but too shallow a pool for what you see a normal meguca do. One spell a day doesn't really work for someone who does magical transformations, uses energy blasts, etc.

So, yeah, maybe a combination of Song Magic and Bending.

>>45120094
>D&D magic systems are powerful, but too shallow a pool for what you see a normal meguca do. One spell a day doesn't really work for someone who does magical transformations, uses energy blasts, etc.
No, Warlock is exactly what you want here. Though you might want to not tell them exactly how the thematics of the class are working.

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>>45119997
Many, many threads ago-before we even went full Anti-Spiral even-someone in thread basically said that you couldn't have scientific magical girls.

And we interpreted that as a challenge.

http://pastebin.com/U3hE0V1v

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>>45119997
Give RWBY Aura to young girls. Then send Grimm to kill them. Easy enough.

>>45119488
I know the jump has a drawback that makes you act like that, but I can't recall anyone in the show who thinks that.

>>45120230
One change I want to suggest, don't send Grimm after them.

Instead, use some other monster maker perk to create their enemies. This frees you up to take Resonate instead of Abyssal, letting you partially copy the Semblances of your magical girl students and set up the shocking reveal that you gave them powers and had them risk their lives in order to make yourself stronger.

>>45120150
>http://pastebin.com/U3hE0V1v
Nice.

>>45120149
>Warlock
Don't Warlocks suffer from the same silliness that Wizards do in respect to casting limits? The whole, you can cast 1 spell a day at L1, 2 at 2, etc?

>>45120334
IMO I rather have Grimm then partial copies of semblances.

They're particularly adjustable depending on whether or not I want murder wolves, bloody crows, or motherfucking dragons.

That and I don't need to feed them.

>>45119997
How stable are Resident Evil viruses? If you can stabilize it so that they don't turn into tentacley pulsating meat monsters that'd probably be a good base to start from.

>>45120460
Especially if you take Crimson Saint to turn magic into tech, then Cobra-La Biotechnology to turn tech into biotech. Throw in some miniaturization perks so you can make your magic biomachines bacterium-sized, and you could make an infection that gives magic.

>>45120543
>Perk that can turn magic into tech
>Perk that can turn tech into biology
Are there any perks that let you turn biology into magic? You know, for completion?

>>45120368
No. Warlocks don't have spells, they have incantations and an eldritch blast, neither of which have a per-day limit. Very appropriate class for magical girls, actually.
Also, wizards spells are much more common than one a day per level.

Are there any perks that let you gain EXP and level up? The closest I can find is EXP Module from Borderlands.

Does taking Supard as a race in Mushoku Tensei count as a drawback or could you just switch to a different alt-form right away to avoid the negative effects?

>>45120642
Crimson Saint goes either way, and there's a perk in SCP that lets you reverse engineer the biology of strange things. So you could use that.

>>45120825
Supard as a race isn't a drawback. The drawback version is green hair.

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>>45120802
Why, yes, there is a perk that lets you gain EXP and go up in LV!

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>>45120094
>kyubey-style deal making
The Deal Maker from Disney Princess (magical contracts) plus Sorcery from Viking Saga (grant a wish at a nasty price) plus Ensoul from Cardcaptor Sakura (creating the soul gem thingy)?

>>45120094
>One spell a day doesn't really work for someone who does magical transformations, uses energy blasts, etc.

Well, if you were granting magical girl powers, that could easily be something like being a tenth level wizard or sorcerer. That's a lot of spells.

But Song Magic is perfect for Magical Girls anyway, and there's less chance of them figuring out how to summon demons.

>>45121550
>and there's less chance of them figuring out how to summon demons.
Just throw a planar lock on the area. Or better, grant them Warlock powers but don't give summoning.

>>45119997
How does norse runic magic work? You can pick it up in VS, and if you did could that be something to use?

Like, if you more or less tattooed a meguca with certain runes would that allow them to cast spells based off of those runes?

>>45120150

Songstone isn't really a sonic weapon kindof thing.

It converts the emotional component of noise (the singer's feelings or thoughts) into physical energy/matter, but it doesn't do it immediately. It could do lasers and things though, but the best use would be with the standard Reyvateil or Organito methods.

It would probably turn telepathic power into energy as well.

>>45121739
> How does norse runic magic work?'
Words have power. You can inscribe things with words to give them power related to that word (so 'horse' might make you fleet or good at carrying things). There are a finite amount of words available. Less than you think. That's about it.

>>45121788
One of the raw components of songstone does just blindly output the sound you give it though, if cracked. It stores sound and since without the other materials it can't output it, it's explosive when damaged.

>>45121840
If you had something that was magic conductive, do you think it'd be feasible to tat someone up with the respective runes and give them permanent access to those powers?

>>45120642
I don't know, Metaphysical Biology?

>>45121881
You don't need something that is magic conductive for Norse stuff. What matters is that you write the runes properly and with what amounts to good grammar. Basically in Norse Myth words define reality, by writing a thing you are declaring it to be true, even if it is factually false you are making it at least partially true. The better you write it the better it works.

Yo /jc/, what's good?

>>45122361
Things that are antithetical to evil.

>>45122420
But moral relativism.

>>45122361
Lawful, Neutral, AND Chaotic.

>>45121866

Yeah, but that's more of a grenade type deal rather than a sound-wave projection effect.

And it doesn't seem like they ever used it like that, so it's probably not that good an idea unless you want to scale it up to a Grathnode Inferia.

>>45122361
That which partakes of the form of The Good.

>>45122524
On a related note: Jumpers, what alignment are you?

Hey, does anybody know what some good meat/fleshcrafting perks are? I've got tons of the stuff, but using it's probably pretty hard without any thing to compliment that.

>>45122568
Selfish Neutral

>>45122568
Tend and strive for Neutral Good, but as my jumps have gone through phases I've hit LN, LG, NG, CG, and CN. And possibly LE, though I try to pretend I haven't.

>>45122361
To Smite the Evil, see them converted before you and hear the lamentations of their foocubi.

If someone wanted to grant Bending powers and only had one scroll, what we be the benefits of each element (taking into account the specializations as well)?

>>45122568
Neutral Evil.

>>45122568
Good or Neutral
Lawful, Neutral, or Chaotic when it serves my interests.

>>45122650
Fire is offensive focused, Earth is defensive focused, Water is balanced, and Air is the wildcard (partially because the nomads refused to explore its combat potential.)

That's putting it very lightly, of course. Once you get into the specializations and such like sandbending things get more mixed.

>>45122467
a refuge for lesser men

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anyone have suggestions for the Deadlands Hell on earth jump before i crack open the books and hop to it?

>>45122568
I may be a bit biased, but probably Neutral Evil.

I don't like myself very much.

>>45122735
What is?

>>45119997
In UC Gundam, I created a team of magical girls without the magic.
Specifically, I recreated the Sailor Senshi employing various canon characters.

>>45122760
Please tell me you used Mineva as Chibi-Usa to Haman's Sailor Moon.

>>45122735
Read Weird Wild West and Generic Western jumps so you can avoid duplicating things.

>>45122748
post apoc weird west + spooky magic skelingtons + ACTUAL tech spirits + undead cyber zombies + shit am i missing anything?

>>45122829
He should put what's appropriate, not worry about being similar to those.

>>45122782
Nah. Ramba Ral's squeeze was Sailor
Moon.
Haman was Sailor Axis.

>>45122829
Personally I wouldn't worry about duplication. If the way you write the lore and the jump is unique enough, and the content is accurate to the source material, even if it overlaps with another jump in the same overall "genre" it's still acceptable.

Just as you can't presume everyone will not take both of those jumps, you can't presume that people will take all both of those jumps, so it's better to simply focus on what the source material lets you work with and proceed from there.

>>45122919
Eh, good enough.

>>45122919
I should add that most assignments were arbitrary. The main exception was are cow becoming Sailor Jupiter, cuz I thought it was amusing.

>>45123043
>Making Jupiter a cow
Shitlist.

>>45123089
The bad thing is, I liked Reccoa up until the point she went full angry feminist.

>>45122361
Pizza.

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>>45118870
Photographer.

>>45123201
>>45123089
Excuse anons, but who is Reccoa?

>>45122650
Lamentations of their what?

>>45123254
Reccoa Londe, from Zeta Gundam. She somehow managed to both go angry feminist and subordinate herself to a powerful domineering man. It was confusing.

>>45123314
That's because Paptimus is a pimp. His other name was a pimp named slickback. From Jupiter.

>>45123289
It's a term meant to cover both incubi and succubi.

>>45118643
If I go with speedster and you go around 30 mach right since my devil fruit I have from getting the faded map let's my go 100 times faster than I already am with the reflexes to boot would that mean I could possibly pull a short stint of punching some smug shot in the face at 3000 mach

>>45123254
Girl from Zeta Gundam. Good girl until she got seduced by Paptimus Scirocco , aka the Man from
Jupiter. After which she basically became completely subservient to him until she went full feminist and decided that men only exist to cause harm to women or something. Whereupon she kills Emma Sheen, aka one of the few good female Gundam characters.

>>45123366
Congratulations, you put two basic abilities together. Aren't you a smart cookie.

>>45123387
Did she get her comeuppance?

>>45123366
I hope you have a way to regrow your arm.

anyone have the jumpchain "SO YOUD LIKE TO MAKE A JUMP" tutorial? it was posted like ten threads ago i think

>>45123366
Yes.

Might want to make some spare arms though.

>>45123437
Zeta has one of the medium fatality rates, but all of the women die except for one basically.

>>45123366
You do realise that 3000 mach is just over 1/3rd C, right? Your arm would explode and it's save to say the concussive shock wave would vaporize your body

>>45123516
Indeed. Shame about Kamille. Must suck being a vegetable.

>>45122568
Sadly for most of my jumps I was stupid good till a certain jump came up now im neutral chaotic.

>>45123463
Why don't you just ask whatever question it is that you have. That or IRC, there's always a couple jumpmakers on there.

>>45123550
He gets better at the end of ZZ. Goes on to be a doctor.

>>45123426
I know I just feel plain giddy>>45123439
>>45123489
>>45123545
I can turn it to proto adamantine instantaneously I'm kinda certain it could stand up to that amount if force.

>>45123616
Huh. I guess that means that two women survived Zeta.

>>45123654
Kamille is not a woman's name!

>>45123654
Three. Don't forget Fa.

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>>45122568
CE but secretly LE.

>>45123637
I don't care how indestructible the lore says something is
Unless proto adamantine has the density of a neutron star you're going to have a bad time

>>45123831
Anon, why are you getting anal about physics in a 'setting' where people can use magic and bullshit comic physics to ignore crap like that?

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>>45122568
I feel that I'm neutral or neutral good but people insist I'm chaotic evil.

>>45123851
You know, I actually find it fun. It's like the XKCD what if? things. Pushing the math of physics to get ridiculous bull shit.

I guess I'm just weird like that.

>>45123366
>who are faster than you
>assume it just means "faster than you are with the Speed Force"

>>45122568
Neutral Good with Chaotic tendencies.

I think most Jumpers have Chaotic tendencies to some degree, unless they really try hard. Being an out of context problem and entirely separate from that society does that.

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>>45122568
Chaotic Good. I live by my own sense of honor, not societal rules

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>>45122568
I take penalties to my XP score on a fairly regular basis.

>>45123366
The evil speedster will always be faster than you. Even if you're going 3rd speed of light, he's going half speed of light. It's a drawback for a reason. Potentially the villains have access to the full speed force so they're not limited by any means. They'll always be faster.

>>45124211
Can they go faster than the speed of light?

>>45123967
It says the current speed your going I read through the dude who uses the fruit originally through translations.

>>45124238
That's child's play for comics speed-force users, so I'd say yes.

>>45124258
That's great, but that's not what that anon was saying. He's saying if you jump your speed to try to "pull a short stint of punching some smug shot in the face at 3000 mach" the smug shot will react to it fine and punch you in the face faster than that.

>>45122568
I hate the alignment system.

I'm a left wing liberal, which technically makes me chaotic evil

>>45123933
Physicists must enjoy it.

>>45122568
Neutral Good, I hope.

The easiest way to deal with the Speedster drawback is to have a companion with a whole different and as equally if not more powerful set of abilities as your own. Fucboi jumpers or those focused on companions can take similar drawbacks with pretty much no downsides. Meat shields are GREATTTTT.

>>45124359
That's true. I don't see what the problem is.

>>45124238
If that's what it takes for them to be faster than you, yes. That's what a drawback is anon, a challenge in return for points, not free points.

>>45124416
>no downsides
There's still the shame.

>>45124238
Flash out raced the Black Speedster, aka Death. He then outraced death past existence before turning back around.

It's a pretty tough drawback, but you can't brute force the villain. It took Firestorm + Flash (and Team Flash) + Green Arrow to fight Reverse Flash on even grounds. Then when they knocked out his speed, he still fought evenly against Green Arrow in hand to hand combat. That's saying something, considering GA is the Arrowverse's Batman pretty much.

>>45124424
I dislike being accused of being evil just because at the core of my philosophies I hold LIBERTY and FREEDOM as sacred.

Lolth is just misunderstood! She's been defamed by a fascist "Lawful Good" Propaganda campaign!

>>45124513
How do they react to time-fuckery?

>>45124359
>I'm a left wing liberal, which technically makes me chaotic evil
Why does it count as Evil?

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>>45122568
Neutral Spooky.

I've gone through just about every alignment and ended up right in the middle. After all I can't let things such as alignment get in the way of business.

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>>45124557
Oh, you meant CLASSICAL liberalism. My mistake.

>>45124559
Question is, how do you react to time fuckery happening to you?

>>45123366
>>45124238
>babbys first jump
Soooooo cute

>>45124416
>"If you die, the wild ride ends."
Okay.
>"You can have up to eight companions active at a given time, though you can have many more with you. Many of them are axiomatically loyal to you, though not all of them."
And if they die, they go back to their own home?
>"No, they respawn on a timer- somewhere between eight hours or days, depending on which rule you're citing at the moment."
What's stopping me from being the Charlie to their Angels to minimize risk to myself?
>"Can you make it an interesting story?"

>>45124557
>I dislike being accused of being evil just because at the core of my philosophies I hold LIBERTY and FREEDOM as sacred.
...You aren't? Those are just Chaotic, not Evil.

>>45124678
I ignore it, but I'm talking about the more traditional Speedsters, instead of Zoom.

>>45124513
Can we tweak the mandatory speedster drawback to deal with people like >>45124416?

>>45124601
>>45124727

Good and Evil are subjective terms.
The way they are described in D&D is closer to Altruistic vs Selfish
Liberalism has individuality and self interest at it's core.

>>45124770
Drawbacks aren't meant to kill everyone or be unbeatable. People are supposed to be able to think up plans and have methods to counteract them.

>>45124707
Actually, one thing that a companion-focused build is fantastic at is letting your jumper get access to stuff without having to write from the perspective of someone with those abilities. Tech perks especially, but even just general mental boosting perks, a lot of professional fields and so on.

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>>45122568
WW
Wizard Wizard

>>45124798
Then at most you're Chaotic Neutral. There's a difference between selfishness and Evil in D&D.

>>45124798
It's only Evil if you're willing to straight up murder or otherwise inflict considerable harm on people for your own gain. Just being self interested and not going out of your way to help others is Neutral.

>>45124876
>straight up murder or otherwise inflict considerable harm on people for your own gain

Depends on the people

>>45124876
Some goals are more important than people.

>>45124678
Out Time Fuckery them.

>>45124770
Though I thought up the idea, I myself don't have any companions with any abilities other then those I already have. The drawback itself is the most easy to deal with within a few jumps of starting if you play your cards right. Perhaps getting a companion to put you in a jar and then slotting you with something like Inventory of Steve would be the truly easiest way to deal with it, or some equivalent of. That, or some item specifically designed to kill them.

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>>45124876
>>45124962
"A means can be justified only by its end. But the end in its turn needs to be justified."
- The handsome (and right) gentleman pictured

>>45124416
Remember it has to be interesting to the benefactor. If you're hiding behind Superman when Sinestro shows up. Then it's not very entertaining.

Also remember that villains are going to be fast. They'll probably know how to deal with super tough opponents. There's the infinity mass punch for a reason. Also villains aren't just one dimensional, look at Zoom. He kidnapped Harrison Wells of Earth-2's daughter. Zoom then used her as leverage against Wells to fatten Barry up like a Speedster Goose.

>>45124921
The implication to "murder for your own gain" is that it does not, in fact, depend on the people. Obviously if the person matters to you personally you may have extra compunctions, even Evil individuals can have people they care about and do not wish to see harmed, but lack of regard for life in general is an Evil trait.

>>45124962
Well, that would come down to the specifics of the situation. You don't have to be a Paladin to be Lawful Good, after all.

>>45124678
I think there's a perk in Blazblue that helps prevent that sort of thing?

What exactly could a double bending genius do with each of the elements from avatar?

>>45125169
Avatar for one element.

>>45125169
Throw mountains, create tsunamis, make a tornado, cook french fries.

>>45124678
>Take Drop In
>Arrive in jump
>10 years worth of speedsters burst out of time around you
>Use magic, stop time
>Place small custard pies in front of each of their faces
>In each pie is a note: "Next time, this will be full of acid"
>When they inevitably come back with acid resistant masks, the pies are full of FOOF

What are some themes that popped up for you during your adventures?

At some point, I became a Dungeon Keeper that eldritch places filled with unspeakable, horrifying creatures. The very halls contain dreadful machinations. Abominations lurk to snatch away adventurers.

And when they get to the end.Some weird guy offers them tea and biscuits.

>>45125049
Which commie is that?

>>45125404
How do you plan on making pie full of dioxygen diflouride? Wouldn't that react with the crust? And the tin? And the air? And really everything everywhere, unless it's kept at temperatures under 4 degrees Kelvin? Are they ice pies?

>>45125075
>Remember it has to be interesting to the benefactor.
That's not an viable argument. It's never been a viable argument. Their interests would vary immeasurably in any one scenario with any two persons in the situation. I know there is only supposed to be one of us but to put a baseline on what interests them is not only saying "do things my way" but literally getting all but a handful of jumpers smited upon leaving the choice sections of [insert their first jump]. I'm not defending powergaming or whatever but the aforementioned is literally under these pretenses what would happen to 9X% of jumpers.

>There's the infinity mass punch for a reason. Also villains aren't just one dimensional, look at Zoom.
Yeah, I know I know not nearly enough to take the drawback. I'm not going to, but it needs to be fleshed out more to state what you're actually dealing with. If, say, you're dealing with all the evil speedsters from all the version of DC comics you'd have to be actually insane to take the drawback.

>>45125410
I started jumping here at a time where we were getting a lot of girl-focused jumps, so I eventually just gave in and stayed a woman instead of paying to switch back and forth (gender changing perks not being a thing at the time.)

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>>45125442
Leon Trotsky senpai
one of the best commies

>>45125502
Didn't Trotsky fail at everything?

>>45125489
Containment fields, teleportation, timestop, etc.
Yes, the instant the containment is dropped things will get unpleasant.

>>45125495
>(gender changing perks not being a thing at the time.)
Wasn't there one in Bodymod?

>>45125588
Not everyone can buy everything from bodymod. Or would expect that they need some thing from bodymod when they built for it.

>>45125536

Just like all Commies

>>45125410
I always end up time travelling, for obvious enough reasons. I also end up with a bunch of powers related to angels, motivating people, and hope for some reason.

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>>45125536
Nah
>One of Lenin's right-hand-men
>Built a kick-ass red army
>One of the most important figures in Marxist Theory
>Started a 4th international & left-opposition to Stalin
>Put left-SRs and counter revolutionaries down like the dogs they were
>Was right

>>45125627
It's okay anon, not all of us have time to read about history, or economics.

So in Fallen London concerning the Fist Of Judgement perk the catch: Your were never meant to impart the full might of Judgement, and your arms will turn on your own defenses with none left.

Maybe I just fail at reading comprehension, but what is this getting at? Your own defenses go away entirely when using it?

I kinda want to fight in the grail war
But I also kinda want to save Illya from a life of shit

Send help

>>45125706
Make us an Prisma Illya jump so we can protect that smile.

>>45125686
Sort of. It's not an instant thing, your defenses wear away over time when you're using it, very slowly if you have an active target, faster if you don't. It's basically just meant to keep you from keeping it on constantly. Instead you use it as a super mode to enhance individual strikes, that sort of thing.

>>45125679

>The USSR was great!!

Nice try pinko

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>>45125759
>I make it blatantly obvious I'm a trot
>you start attacking the USSR
Wow, more politically illiterate than I thought.

>>45125729
I remember talking to Val about that

Shits fucked, the cards are way too powerful to balance, and I'm not taking that on

>>45125706
Be Beserker, devour the servant spirits so Illya doesn't get Grailed?

>>45125840
It might have to fall on someone capable of making a high powered jump and not a scaredy cat like most of you. I have a plan, we'll see.

>>45125864
Just as long as you ask yourself "What would tera do." and then do the complete opposite of that.

>>45125923
>ask yourself "What would tera do." and then do the complete opposite of that.
Stop telling (potential) jumpmakers to go and stay go, anon.

>>45125923
Oh believe me, who I'm planning to ask is much, much more talented than him. Someone actually respectable.

>>45125833

Whatever you say commie. Fight for the revolution right comrade.

>>45125833
>Implying Trotsky din do nuffin, he's a gud boy

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>>45126036
>ebin /pol/ memes
high-level-political discourse here on the traditional games board :^)

also
>implying he did
death to the enemies of the revolution, friend.

Does literally anyone still like Stalin, I wonder.

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What would it take to make your Jumper just run the fuck away?

>>45126163
Omnipotents.

Tentacle monsters.

>>45126142

Some Russians and Pinkos who fight for the revolution

>>45125840
I remember looking at Prisma Ilya, remembering that it was a Fate IP and immediately going "nope I don't want to jump into the pool of Fate questions galore". As cute as Prisma Ilya is I just don't know if it's worth the price.

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>>45126142
Tankies are more common than you might suppose, unfortunately.

>>45126163
Utter existential threats, the kind that swat planets on the day-to-day.

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Tell me, Jumper, do you pray? And if so, to whom? Were you to collect some gods from all the worlds wot have them you've ever encountered into a pantheon, to which would you raise temples and monuments? Which aspects of them would you promote? Which would you downplay?

>>45126163
Anything sufficiently corruptive or sufficiently powerful.

Right now, the latter still includes "sufficient bullets."

>>45126163
Butterfly nets.

>>45126223
>implying I'd serve or pray to another

>>45126086
>If only it had been Trotskyists sending Stalinists to the Gulag rather than the other way around then all would have been right with the world!

>>45126223
I pray to our Lady of Perpetual Exemption. Praise be.

>>45126223
I pray to the Lady of Pain.

Anyways here's last update for today for Arrowverse.

http://pastebin.com/Lfp7fav1

>>45125961
You better hope it's someone skilled with high powered jumps and the patience to put up with endless fate questions. That's not a lot of people to ask.

>>45126223
INB4 the Emprah

>>45126339
No you don't. She'd have killed you already.

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>>45126295
Nah, the only way for the Russian revolution to turn out well would be for the German revolution to have succeeded. I'm sure there were more turning points for the Soviets that could have been capitalized on had a better administration existed (possibly Trotsky, possibly not- he was pretty arrogant and abrasive apparently), one that didn't involve the ideal of socialism-in-one country, or being super gung-ho about forced collectivization of peasants, but material conditions practically screwed the soviets from the start.

>>45126223
Gods don't pray to gods.

>>45126447
Why must it be so? Is there no respect, then, for the domain of another? Even amongst one's equals, does not a guest obey certain rules of respect for the host?

>>45126513
Because to pray to a god is to submit to them, to become their servant and lesser. As another god it is your right instead to be seen as a peer, not a tool or a toy as the gods see mortals.

>>45126513
Don't be stupid. You don't need to pray to show respect to your equal.

>>45126384
How many people do we have that you could even consider "skilled with high powered jumps" besides Babylon, Marvel and Red. OAA maybe?

>>45126384
>>45126582
We'll see, true believers. We'll see.

>>45126513
It's forbidden love.

>>45126223
Pray? No.
A god once demanded I kneel before him, though.
So I did.
Then I cut him down at the knees.

WHO'S KNEELING NOW LOKI?...I mean, probably not you, because you don't have knees, but that's beside the point.

>>45126604
>>45126582
So either it's one of those four, or you're hoping to grab someone who used to do high powered jumps. If you're talking about wherever Muyo disappeared, you should wait for Rebuild first.

>>45126648
>implying Loki wouldn't have gone "They weren't even my legs, fool" and you had actually dismembered your waifu

>>45126688
>Implying your waifu wasn't actually Loki all along.
>Implying Loki wouldn't probably then reveal that you got him pregnant and present to you your six-legged snakewolf baby or whatever.

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>>45126718
>Loki
>not even once

>>45126688
Nah. This was bitchy MCU Loki.
Even I'm not stupid enough to fuck with comic Loki like that.

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>>45126718

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>>45126223
I've prayed to shinto spirits, which are not really "gods", and is more like a generalized sign of respect and asking forces to look out for me and mine. For that matter, I've been known to occasionally mutter a few prayers to nebulous higher forces ("Hey, I don't know if anyone's listening, but...") because if anyone out there feels like sending some good luck my way, I'm not too proud to turn it down.

I don't really ascribe to any particular religion, though.
Well, I do, but... Jump-chan would never answer my prayers, so it's pointless.

>>45126810
Have you ever tried starting a Church of Jump-Chan?

>>45126671
I don't think there's anyone else really who's done high powered jumps regularly though. CCDT and stupid_dog made the most jumps but most of theirs aren't high powered. muyo has left for a while. Who did TTGL?

>>45126910
You must be very curious.

>>45126910
KOTOR. It's not high power though, given that everything past the half way point is locked in an end jump, so there's plenty of jumps that give way higher power levels.

>>45126930
I'm pretty curious yeah, I'm also pretty bored and none of the current topics in the thread are appealing so I might as well fixate on this little puzzle

>>45126910
>>45126930
If you're asking for kotor to do it, it's going to be an interesting discussion.

Just tell us already, don't keep trying to hype us.

>>45127028
I don't know if they'll do it so there's little point until I can actually ask.

>>45127067
All that hype for nothing gosh.

>>45127067
Unless you say who it is, they might not know either. People read the thread without commenting, or without their names on.

>>45127067
A lot of name fags post anon unless someones asking about their jumps.

>>45127184
>>45127231
>>45127233
Oh, I know them outside of this thread. It'll be beyond your prying eyes.

>>45127233
As one of these "name fags" I'm weirdly triggered about being called a name fag. I really don't like being put in the same category as ND

>>45127277
Shh, you'll summon them.

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>>45120089
Yes.

>>45126872
No.

What would be the point?

>>45127277
who the hell is ND?

>>45127277
>ND
Who?
I'm also a name fag, but my ability to give no shits is maxed

>>45127248
And like that any curiosity has turned into dread, concern, and flashbacks to Tsukihime.

>>45127327
>>45127331

Go to some of the other threads, particularly 40k ones, you'll very quickly know who I'm talking about.

>>45127248
Well that's not concerning or skeevy at all.

>>45127327
>>45127331
I'm sure they are talking about NiceDaemonette
Here an archive search with the name.
http://archive.4plebs.org/tg/search/username/nicedaemonette/

>>45127327
>>45127331

They're talking about Nice Daemonette.

Now stop talking about them because that's just going to attract their presence.

>>45127361
But you make them sound awful. Why would I subject myself to that?

>>45127391
Nigga, WHAT ARE YOU DOING!

>>45127300
What's the point of anything?

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YOU FOOLS

YOU'VE MESSED WITH THE NATURAL ORDER

>>45127515
I tried to warn them.

Excuse me, but I am having trouble filtering it to be specific to Jumpchain, so I can't see how it is related to Tsukihime. Can someone help?

Quickly, new topic.

Jumpers, do you have a business card? How is it designed? What's your job title?

No one is listening to you.

>>45127588
Can't see how what is related to Tsukihime, anon?

>>45127588
what

Jumpers, how often do you get hugs?

Have you ever gently held someone's hand?

>>45127588
Tsukihime's history as a jump was that the jumpmaker asked his friend IRL for things that he wanted to see in the jump, and therefore it became a shitshow when the entire jump ended up completely imbalanced. Later on another anon came out and picked Tsukihime back up, only to not really fix too much of the substantial problems and then afterwards saying "Oh I knew the original author as well as the original benefactor in real life" hence everybody collectively facepalmed.

>>45127612
Nope.

>>45127631
Nope. I am unhuggable.

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>>45127631
Blue board! Blue board!

>>45127631
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0JVwfJGfins

>>45127631
>hugs

Well, I was the one "well-behaved" T-rex at Jurassic Park. Probably a lot of kids posing for pictures with the "talking dinosaur." Heck, even during the big breakouts, I stayed put until it was clear InGen was abandoning the site or somebody busted open my enclosure looking to stomp my face in.

The latter were severely disappointed. Not necessarily dead, but severely disappointed.

>>45127655
>and then afterwards saying "Oh I knew the original author as well as the original benefactor in real life"
That wasn't afterwards, the original jumpmaker handed the rights off in person with a stipulation that the most egregious item had to stay. Ninjanon only took it up to fix because he knew the original jump maker, and was quite up front about it.

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>>45127612
A plain white business card with my name, my current phone number, my email, and my title listed as Teaching Assistant.
>>45127631
As often as I feel like. Or as often as my companions want. And yes.

>>45127764
I had no clue he even knew the original jump maker until the fuss that happened when people asked ninjaanon about the Eyes. I'm more surprised that this many people know each other in real life. I probably shouldn't be but I am

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>>45127612
>implying I need a business card to om nom nom

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>>45127612
My cards are butterflies.
Pic related.

>>45126223
Well, I started from a Christian background, but it's hard to keep to an Earth-centric faith after you visit your first non-Earth planet, let alone your dozenth or hundredth. But that doesn't mean I lost my faith, just that it changed. I now believe in the Creator, and my faith is stronger than ever, if only because in every single universe I enter, it's demonstrably true. Each universe has an Author, a Director, a Coder - sometimes there's one, sometimes there's many, but no universe with the possible exception of ours has ever arisen ex nihilo - and after hundreds of universes, it's silly to think ours is the exception. So I offer my prayers to the Creator, whoever they might be, and I ask for them to guide me to interesting stories, and deliver me from bad writing in all its myriad forms.

Excuse me, but I seem to have run into an Issue with the Tenchi Muyo Jump. Does the Smiling Goddess Leaves give you a First-Generation Tree Ship, or does it just allow you to purchase it? The perk implies the first interpretation, and the Item supports the second.

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>>45127414
Exactly.

>>45127612
I just have an emblem. The ouroborous from FMA. It's distinctive enough that nobody uses it except me outside that jump.
I guess if I had a business card, that'd be on it.

Unless this were a modern day jump or something where that exists, then that would just look incredibly dorky.

>>45127631
I... uh... yeah, actually...?
I've given a lot of hugs and I tend to get them in return sometimes.
I like hugs.

Secretly some of my fondest memories watching the sunset with someone as we gently hold each other's hand.

>>45128100
Smiling Goddess Leaves gets you a TREE.

The item at the bottom of the items section gets you a SHIP, built specifically FOR the Tree.

>>45128152
Thank You. I seemed to have missed that.

>>45128152
I like to think you might be able to convince them to build you a ship eventually regardless. A 1st gen tree picking anyone is a HUGE deal, and in all the history of Jurai, only one person who didn't go on to be Emperor in their lives was picked by one. They were all in the royal family to boot. You're pretty much going to be one of the most important people around.

>>45128231
Sure, but that ship won't have Benefactor Warranty. The Tree will probably pull it along with you from jump to jump, but if it gets damaged...

How well would the tree adapt to being stuck in a ship from a different jump instead?

>>45128268
I think the tree would be fine, provided that you modify the ship to support it. I know there have been plans by multiple people to put it in the Light of Terra.

>>45128268
They can be repaired, so you should theoretically be okay. I'd still gank some knowledge on how the ships are made so you can rebuild it if it becomes necessary.

Could you use Dragon Kata from Spyro the Dragon as a way to use Mana for fuel for other Chi-based martial arts, like the ones from Wuxia and Dragonball?

>>45128344
Possibly? Although that would probably require additional training to match all the techniques.
Not "thousands and thousands of years" training, I think you could pick it up about as easily as creating any martial art, but it's not something you could just pick up and start doing.

Also, Dragonball has such ridiculous power levels there might not be any advantage to doing that.

>>45128175
No problem. There's quite a bit about the jump that's kinda convoluted.

>>45128231
True. Plus I think that perk tied to the tree gets you a position in any royal family in future jumps.

>>45128268
Do the planting process carefully- and I mean REAL FUCKIN' CAREFULLY. And you could feasibly let your Jurian Tree take control of any ship anywhere.

Reminder that the tree ship deserves import into Kancolle more than the LoT.

>>45128536
Why not both? As one, even!

>>45128649
That sounds like it'd be horrifying.

>>45128661
Welcome to jumpchain.

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>>45128661
>Jumpchain; The Image

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>>45129052
Here is another relevant image.

>>45128661
Actually, I guess if you successfully transplanted the tree over to the LoT beforehand, then it would just be one giant ship that the tree controls.
"Jumper-san, this thing steers like a brick. That's been stuck in a tar pit. That's been lost underground. Why would you put me in this?!"
The LoT doesn't really have a consciousness before that, so if you imported it into Kantai at that point, it would just be "The Light of Terra's body, but with the personality of the Jurai Tree."
She becomes a huge amazonian shipgirl who is sensitive and insecure about her overly large body.

>>45129109
And you forgot the theme song.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZQ_WBiyFDk

Am I reading the Cetus blessing from King Arthur right in that it gives you omniawareness for the area immediately surrounding you? Because that seems absurdly useful for only 100 cp.

>>45129165
>The LoT doesn't really have a consciousness before that,
Oh, but anon, it does.

>>45129223
Well then clearly she gets a split personality. MPD is fun. I wonder how many more we can cram in there.

>>45129223
Only if you gave it one.

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>>45129252
> Install Giffany as an onboard AI prior to the merger.

>>45129285
No, it has one well before you ever get there. You should look into Imperial ships more, anon.

>>45129165
>having a LoT that handles like a brick
Even if you don't get the inertialess drive that should have it handling better than any normal tree ship there are a number of options to boost its speed and maneuverability.

>>45129308
They don't have personalities. Individual guns and such might or might not have Machine Spirits, but they're not the ship itself. There's no such thing as a ship AI in the Imperium.

>>45129325
Don't gotta take it as absolute fact you need to counter, anon.

>>45129288
Everyone can use a yandere side.

>>45129308
Does the cogitator core count then? I always thought it was just a normalish (by scifi standards) computer.

>>45129346
Dude you take things too seriously, I was just saying there isn't any reason why you couldn't have a LoT that handles well.

>>45129377
Yeah, and I'm saying that the anon you replied to was setting up a funny anecdote. You don't need to try and counter the statements in a funny anecdote. I'm not calling you malicious or anything, I'm just saying that with humor you don't really poke at the facts.

>>45129392
I'm so sorry I ruined a joke for anon.

>>45129285
Depends on whether you took Fleshmetal in The Heathen Trail. Or Automation in Five Star Stories. Or both.

>>45129165
With flowers in her hair.

>>45129329
The whole thing is has an old and powerful machine spirit. All Imperial ships do (well, some less old than others, obviously, but the LoT is very, very old). So do some of the larger tanks, which are generally extremely simplistic, and Titans, which are much larger and generally more aggressive than tank ones, though still far "less" than ship ones. Much like past Princeps leave their personality shadows on the edges of Titan machine spirits, captains and techpriests and so on that link with the ship leave echoes of themselves.
Also, there totally is ship AI, though it's DAoT remnant stuff the Mechanicus doesn't know about.

>>45129601
It varies by the ship, a lot of the newer ships have far more simplistic systems, possibly having the navigation systems being just a room full of people to do calculus in, or they have basically a bunch of servitors linked together. Though the way the jump talks about the cogitator core, it's a DAoT bit of tech that should have one of the most advanced AI in the history of 40k in it, just to be able to handle navigating the warp on it's own. Whether it has a personality that would be recognized as such or not is more questionable, and the answer is almost certainly fanwank it.

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>>45122568
Chaotic Good. I'm not really loyal to anything other than myself, but I like helping people. People are wonderful.

>>45122594
Physiomancy from Shadow Ops, Biomancy from LoT, the Doctor perk line from Franken Fran, being a Tzimisce in Bloodlines, and there's one in worm that I forget what it's called.

>>45126163
Removing the reasons to stay. Having staying be less advantageous than running. I'm not addicted to specific bits of ground.

>>45126223
I pray to communicate with gods, because that's how it's done. I'm not too proud to bow my head in respect to others. That is, if they're worthy of respect. Some gods just shouldn't be bothered with outside of foiling.

>>45127631
I hug my companions often. Everyone else, I'm too shy most of the time.

>>45126447
The various domain gods of FR have been shown to pray to Ao, and the Time of Troubles books conclude with Ao praying to some unknown god higher than him.

>>45130166
Fucking losers.

Seriously nobody should want to emulate that pantheon, they're terrible.

>>45130228
Be that as it may, it does refute the whole gods don't pray to gods statement.

>>45130166
>The various domain gods of FR have been shown to pray to Ao, and the Time of Troubles books conclude with Ao praying to some unknown god higher than him.
Wasn't that not actually praying, just calling on them then holding a conversation?

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>>45122568
Chaotic Lawful. Since it's ultimately a subset of M:tG's setting, the multiverse is a lawless waste devoid of absolutes; there's no cause, credo or system that can be said to be universal. Nonetheless, we will bring order to it whatever it takes.

>>45126163
Dangling something we really want on a string, at the far end of the space-time continuum.

>>45127631
No comment.

>>45127612
A hole in space where a card should exist, a matte black rectangle that sucks away even the light that reflects off the holder's eyes. It was forged in a paradoxical universe of Nothingness, and tempered with the blinding radiations of the Void.

Touching it gives a brief, transcendent telepathic description of our nature, current objective, credentials and contact details. Holding it with the intent to communicate back causes the Correspondence sigils for "Librarian of space and time" to scrawl themselves on the card. We ate our true name aeons ago and we have many titles, but this one serves as a metaphysical focus for further communication.

>>45130259
It instead makes it only so loser gods pray to other gods.

>>45129601
I don't think that'd count as sapient though.

>>45130883
Perhaps not, but certainly sentient, and enough to count as a conciousness.

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>>45126223
There's only one being we pray to: The Benefactor. Sadly, in Age of Ice the only god we respected wasn't willing to make an alliance.

The next best deity we're on overall best terms with is Jubileus, thanks to being her child and host. Because our goals align so closely there's little need for such pretense; we simply act in accordance with our role and all Paradiso follows.

This isn't to say we wouldn't raise temples and monuments to other gods, mind you-some of our best friends are gods and goddesses. Mind you there is a bit of compromise in promoting everyone's aspect since Elune and Glorificus don't see eye to eye for obvious reasons, while Brigid's really big on justice as a concept and Ultima just wants people to not muck around with the natural order and the Farrow sisters have strange ideas for what's proper attire for a psychopomp.

So naturally, there's a lot of give and take when it comes to which aspects get promoted, and how.

Apart from that-we generally promote the Titans over the Olympians. We advise them to emphasise the merits of the Golden Age. We're also on fairly good terms with most iterations of the Aesir, no relation to Aesir, God of Chaos.

And if we're including gods who worship us-there's the Fal'Cie fragments we cultivated from FF13-3 as glorified slaves. If you consider the True Fae to be the Old Gods of the Thistle four loose associations of them have been bound by oath and contract as merceneries in our service. We ended up gathering an anti-cult of small gods who did tasks for scraps of deitygen on the Disc; using A Weight Upon The Brow and To Treat With Spirits we cultivate similar cabals of spirits in other worlds as the ultimate spy network.

Finally, our relationship with the Judgements is...complicated. Suffice to say we do truly have their best interests at heart.

>>45130864
One gets the impression everyone else is talking about a completely different argument while you're fixated on expressing an opinion.

>>45130984
To be fair, he's right about Ao and the stooge crew being loser gods.

>>45131011
True. So basically, there's no D&D god worth respecting right?