40k general

Squats.

>>44772559
>Slow and Purposeful

Its relentless.

>Explain

Too much copy-pasting old shit without thinking.

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I claim this hallowed thread for the Imperium! For Dorn! Also, which would be better for Fists, Sternguard or a Dreadnought?

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What's the name of your warlord? You gave him/her a name, didn't you?

Have you come up with a backstory for him and his army?

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>>44772559
because recent codices have been written by mongols.

So my flgs is hosting a 30k league. I don't have the money to drop on a calth box, but they mentioned mechanicum as an option.

What 40k mech units would I be able to use/kit bash in to the 30k? And where the fuck are all the HH rule books| 0

>>44772589
>re-rolling bolters
Sternguard

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>>44772584
>>44772617
Excuse me let me try that again

Terminator Armour costs 40 points
>2+/5++
>Cannot Sweeping Advance
>Power Fists/Weapons

Bikes, for 20 points, give
>12' Movement
>12' Auto run
>TL Guns
>+1 Toughness
>Can Sweeping advance
>Jink

Explain

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Getting back into 40k after a decade, I didn't play much back then, but I have a bunch of Eldar from back in the day. I bought some new stuff to put together a 1000 pt list to re-learn to play with, let me know what you think:

HQ: Farseer skyrunner

Troops:
Windriderx6 with scatter lasers (prob gonna do 2 squads of 3)

Dire avengers x 10 w/exarch (twin linked catapult) in a wave serpent with bright lances and shuriken cannon.

Heavy support:

Reapers x4 and an exarch- I have this squad fully loaded, reapers all have starshot missiles and exarch has EML.

Wraithlord with bright lance, scatter laser and ghostglaive.

This list leaves me with 80 points to spare, what should I do with it? I could get some more jetbikes, or I could get a spiritseer for support and more warp charges, as I eventually plan to incorporate a wraithknight and wraithguard into my army.

Thoughts?

>>44772612

Cao Cao.

If I wanted to play mostly melee Necron, would it be better to use Praetorions or Lychguard to go along with Wraiths.

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>>44772612
>laughinggrots.jpg

>>44772612
Vladimir Göbbistav.

A Radical inquisitor Lord who received a vision of a terrible artifact hidden in a underground temple on a death world held by the tau.

Recently aquired the help of an arch magos with less that savory plans for the artifact.
With the help of the magos and his forces they recently smashed through a tau edge world and is making a line for the suspected planet.
A Krieg regiment is en rute as reinforcements.

I use the Inquisitor Torquemada rules, and a custom model for him.
The smashing of the tau edge world was part of bigger narrative campaign i took part in.

>>44772685
Enjoy winning without trying at all

>>44772612
Octo Mendoza for 40k, Alecto for 30k.

>>44772612
Ausar the Relentless and Krosis the Learned, my Terminator Lord and Sorcerer respectively. I have backstory for both of them, more for Ausar, who was a Scout Captain captured by the Dark Eldar and Khorne gave him a blade to fight his way out. When he returned to his chapter, the Emperor's Harvest, the Chapter Master chose him to lead the chapter in the former's dying moments. The leader of the First Company objected to this, and a civil war broke out between the brothers who supported the Scout Captain and those who supported the First Company Captain. While victorious, Chapter Master Ausar took the remnants of his Chapter into deep space to atone for their sins and investigate a Space Hulk that held the Alpha Legion Sorcerer Krosis. The two met, joined forces to fight off Genestealers, and the Alpha Legionnaires pushed the Emperor's Harvest marines into full-blown Chaos Marines. The rest is history.

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>>44772677
codex authors were raped by terminators back in 2nd ediiton

>mfw sustained fire+rapid fire storm bolters
>when no one else could rapid fire

>>44772713
Praetorians have ap2 shootin, but lychguard have armor bane or make a good bodyguard unit for your overlord. Have a squad of each

>>44772663
>And where the fuck are all the HH rule books

In the HH general you mongoloid.

You can do a servitor force all armed with flamers or heavy bolters if you want, they are T5 and can have FNP. It really depends on what you have and what you can proxy.

>>44772792
Is the sword and pistol combo for Praetorian worth losing Ap2 for an extra attack with Entropic Strike

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>>44772712
Good choice.

>>44772802
Thanks. Forgot about the HH general thread.

>>44772685
So going over your list it's a pretty solid eldar list that plays off of the traditional strengths of the codex; however, this means that there will be people who will not want to play against it. The windriders with scatter lasers in particualr tend to rub people the wrong way.

As for what I would do for your last 80 points, I would consider either a war walker or any of the non-flyer fast attack options as they are all good. Best of luck.

>>44772677
You forgot deepstrike and cheap storm shields.

>>44772957
>gives up all ranged weaponry for a Stormshield

The idea that "Tau aren't commies" completely misses that the point is they're superficial pop culture commies, not whether or not their actual politics line up properly with stalinist russia.

Government control by a small, unquestionable class, nationalised everything, propaganda about the good of all and everyone in their place, stomping all over the little guy with a strong millitary.

Thems pop culture commies. The only thing that doesn't match up is that they're actually doing okay, no endemic poverty and starving dirt farmers.

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Any stories about ig beating sm(not chaos)?

I'm just getting into 40k and I'm pretty interested in Necrons, but I have some questions about them before I start to buy models. I really like fast things in games, so I've been looking at Destroyers and Tomb Blades. How do they perform? My friends have told me they're sort of like SM bikes, is this true? Also, while they seem to have anti vehicle equipment out the ass do they have anything worthwhile to bring against monstrous creatures and things of that nature?

>>44773190
Vance Motherfucking Stubbs

>>44773232
Necrons and fast dont really go together unless you're planning on an entire Destroyer/Tomb Blade army.

>>44773259
>implying borealum isn't a reality

>>44773157
>>>/pol/
>>>/pol/
>>>/pol/

>>44772943

Do I want a war walker when I have the reapers? Fluff-wise I'm going with altansar, so I got the reapers pretty tricked out. The 4 regular reapers all can fire their starshot (S8AP3) and they get to re-roll failed to-hit rolls against fliers. The exarch has an EML and withf fast shot he gets two starhawk missles (s7 AP4) with true skyfire every shooting phase.

I know the war walkers are good but at 1000 points I just wonder if i will see enough fliers to make it worth it.

>>44773288
A dead one

>>44773273
Yeah I've seen, but both of those things are fast so I've been thinking about them to balance it out a bit. I also will probably get a transport barge or a night scythe

>>44773290

Apparently you missed entirely the "It has nothing to do with their actual politics" thrust of that post.

>>44773232
Wraiths are pretty fast, as are praetorians. Put warriors in transports to give them speed

>>44773157
All that shit you posted describes the Imperium far better than the Tau. They even have the dirt farmers

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>>44773312
Id personally make a Destroyer Legion if you want a nice amount of fast units, and they have great rules with them. After that you could make a Reclamation Legion which requires a unit of Tomb Blades.

>>44773367
After the last General its very clear that its going to devolve rapidly into /pol/ debates

>>44773382

Nah, they're more pop culture Nazicatholics with heavy borrowing from shit like Judge Dredd.

The main difference is honestly pretty much just that the Tau are atheists. Beyond that there's also that the Tau are semi-utopian with their skeletons hidden whilst the Imperium are more honest about being complete assfucks.

>>44773382
>unquestionable class
not really

>>44773382

Sure. I don't think he's saying the Imperium doesn't suck, though.

>>44773397

Just go double Destroyer cult up to about 1800 points plus two Doom Scythes in a deathbringer flight for thematically apt air support. I have that list, and it performs painfully well.

>>44773489

Clarification that the Deathbringer Flight caps it up to 2000, sorry.

>>44772612
Oh you mean Adrellas, High Interrogator Chaplain of the Main Vindicator Contingent or perhaps Cudon, the Scalded Guardian.

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>>44773489
id play against it, sounds fluffy and fun
>mfw theres no Orks vs Necron art

Posting my list for my game on saturday. R8&H8


NSF+Inq 1850 points

NSF

1x Librarian, ML3, Cuirass
1x Librarian, ML3

2x Terminator squad, Justicar w/ Halberd, hammer, psycannon

1x Interceptor squad, 10 men, Justicar w/ Falchions, 2 hammers, 2 incinerators

2x NDK, swords, PT, H. Psycannon, H. Incinerator

Draigo

Inquisitorial Detachment

Coteaz
1x Ordo Malleus Inquisitor, terminator armour, hammer, psycannon, 3x servoskulls

>>44772758


I'm only playing them because I already had a couple hundred dollars worth of eldar models. If I was starting from scratch I'd probably go with salamanders

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Could you fool the Inquisition being an AI pretending to be Iron Hands/Admech/Skitarii?

>>44772612

My Tzeentchian Daemon Prince is Jack. I converted him to have a wolf head, raven wings, a missing arm and eye, a drawable (magnetised) sword impaled through his chest and waist tentacles. Still working on my green stuff skills so I can add some tattered clothing.

Those of you who get the reference will prolly commence mockery momentarily.

>>44773293
You don't have to give everything eldar missile launchers. War walkers aren't anti-air. In fact, it'd take you over points cost, and not really help all that much. I think all the other options are better, just depending on what kind of dakka you want to sport.

>Fire Warrior Hunter Team
>Elite choice 45 points
>Up to 5 models may buy Ion rifles or Rail Rifles for 10 and 15 points respectively
>May include a Shas'ui for 10 points (standard options, including guardian drones)
>Entire squad may take Breacher field generator (5++ when comboed with the drone) for 5 points per model

Would you take it? Would you play against it?

>>44773665
Just erase a magos consiusnes and install yourself

>>44773670
I'm ashamed to know that's Homosuck garbage.

>>44773709
remeber that breachers swap pulse rifles/carbines for pulse blasers / field generator for free

>>44773670
i dont even know what thats referencing but it sounds gay as shit

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>>44773709
No because you probably have 1-3 Riptides and a Stormsurge and I can kill neither.

Honestly I like the idea, should just start the squad (5man?) with Ion Rifles so they start at 95pts base

>>44773709

>181 points for 5 Rail rifles, a sergeant and a 5++
>6 t3 wounds and a drone you want to die last

God no.

Trying to expand my nid army, /tg/. Where do I go from here in order to make the list fun/decent (I'm not going competitive, so no 4 flyrants). I have:

1 Swarmlord
3 Tyrant Guard
1 Tervigon
60 Termagaunts
30 Hormagaunts
3 Warriors
8 Ripper squads
3 Zoanthropes
1 Trygon
1 Dakkafex
10 Gargoyles

I'm planning on getting 1 flyrant, but is there anything else that comes to mind? I was thinking either a squad of 3 Hive Guard, a Tyrannocyte, Deathleaper (as a cheaper alternative to the swarmlord), or another Dakkafex.

My friends play Imperial Guard, Tau, and Necrons. They don't have anything too stupidly OP, as we're all pretty casual and play for fun, so no need to worry about Stormsurge spam.

>>44773775
True. I wasn't sure how expensive to make the field generators or to just give them default, so I went the cautious route.

>>44773709
>>44773775
I should finish this post and say that the field generator shouldn't be more than 1ppm, or maybe 5 points for the squad (regardless of size)

>>44773672

I also have a single D-cannon. Would that be worth fielding or would it just end up getting rocked before i could bring it into range?

>>44773800
Plasma Crisis teams or a Riptide are both going to be more effective for a similar price

Has anyone got a link to the doom of mymeara 2nd edition pdf? It's not on the mega

2x Painboy - 100

1x Non-Force Org Mek - 15

2x 20 Shoota boys - 358
>Nob w/ PK/BP/Shoota

2x 10 Tankbustas - 290
>Nob - BP

5 Meganobz - 200

4 KMK - 156
>Max Gretchin / Max Ammo Runts

2 Traktor Kannon - 78
>Max Gretchin / Max Ammo Runts

====== Blitz Brigade Formation =======

5x Battlewagon - 650
>Ram / Extra armour / 1 Rokkit Launcha


1846

>>44773799
>>44773825
Thanks for the suggestions. So 20 points base with the field generator and ion rifle, with a 5 point rail upgrade option? Seems workable.

Experimental CSM Slaanesh List-750pts

Thoughts pls, ty <3

Chaos Lord, MoS, Power fist, Combi-Melta, Sigil@140
2(7 Noise marines, 6 sonic blasters, Doom siren+CCW, Rhino w/ Havoc Launcher)@210 each
6 Havocs, 2 lascannon, 2 missile launcher, Icon of excess+CCW@190

>>44773831
Nah go for it. They aren't the squishiest targets and one of the good things about them is that they draw (and soak up) a fair bit of fire. If it gets into range it can be very deadly, if it doesn't then it probably helped something else survive long enough to do damage. And all of the rest of your army is long ranged anyway.

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>>44773809
+2 Tervigons
+3 Venomthropes
+3 *Pick any Monstrous Creature
+1 Squad of Warriors
+5 Carnifexs
+3 Zoanthropes
x2 all Gaunts

Thats how I would do it disregarding usefulness, I collect models to fill out my horde so I like multiples (Orks)

>>44772612
I actually have a bunch of them. Usually I will play a few games with my new HQ models until they do something badass, and thus earn themselves a name and a backstory. For example, my Captain Isaac didn't earn a name for himself up until last month, when I started running him with the Raven Guard Artifacts.

> Captain Galahad, wielding a Thunder Hammer in Artificier Armour. He's my 2nd Company Captain, who very much fills out the role of a knight in shining armour on the tabletop. He's not afraid at all to take hits for his squad, and his chivalrous mentality tends to get the better of him on the battlefield.

> Captain Isaac: A Hotheaded Captain of the 7th Company, who leads a squad of Sternguard as his honor guard. Unlike Galahad, he's obsessed with taking on big things with his relic lightning claws, and often completely ignores the safety of his own men for the sake of getting in challenges to prove his own worth.

> Ancient Brother Valentine: While not an HQ, this is actually my Deredeo Dreadnought. He was originally the 7th Company Captain of my chapter, but he died over 6,000 years ago, and was interned within the chapter's only Deredeo. His sarcophagus was originally recovered on a deathworld, and bore the markings of X-IX-XX, with the original legion markings scraped off the hull. The Machine Spirit is normally quite dormant, but awakens with a fierce vengeance whenever the chapter faces monstrous creatures on the battlefields of the 41st millenium.

>>44773890
10/10 list I totally suggested the changes last time you posted it

Actually id drop the Tankbusta Nobz unless you are going to be getting out of your Battlewagons. For the price of both of them (30 pts) you can field another KMK or Traktor

>Leman Russ is the worst primarch
>Ultramarines are the best chapter
>Tau are glorious good guys
>Eldar are more Japanese that Tau
>Matt Ward was a good writer
>Newcrons are better than Oldcrons
>Abbaddon is a success
>Imperial Guard is useless
>Be'Lakor is stronger than the Chaos Gods
>Lorgar is the best traitor primarch
>Black Templars worship the Emperor as a God
>Dark Angels are closeted traitors
>Orks are just useless backdrop villains

Kharn's index Chaotica says that Kharn has fought and defeated all sort of opponents. Necrons Overlords, Ork Warbosses, and Eldar Exarchs have fallen before him. However, he prefers fighting the Imperium the most. That's why he is always eager to join up with Abaddon's Black Crusades.

So a few questions.

Why does Kharn hate the Imperium so much?

How did his chain axe not break when he fought Necron Ovrelord? The only weapons that can survive clashing with Necron warscythes are power weapons.

>>44774005
You're getting slower at your copy-pasta

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>>44774005

>Debatable. There are worse.
>Debatable. There are better.
>Debatable. Good for the Tau, sure.
>Debatable. In some aesthetic aspects, sure.
>Debatable. Rules or fluff?
>Debatable. I prefer oldcrons.
>Agreed.
>Wrong.
>Is he? What's the new fluff?
>Debatable. Angron has been doing things.
>Do they? Source?
>Agreed.
>Agreed.

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>>44774005
> Dark Angels are closeted traitors
EXCUSE ME YOU FILTHY HERETIC. I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT TO YOU THAT DARK ANGELS ARE CLEARLY THE MOST LOYAL SPACE MARINE CHAPTER TO HAVE EVER EXISTED. WE ARE SO LOYAL IN FACT, THAT THE ULTRAMARINES AND WARDIAN KNIGHTS SHIT THEMSELVES AT THE SIGHT OF US, THEN BEG US TO TEACH THEM OUR LOYALIST WAYS.

NOT A SINGLE DARK ANGEL HAS EVER TURNED TRAITOR, OR EVER EVEN CREATED A HERETICAL THOUGHT WITHIN THEIR SUPREMELY LOYAL ASTARTES MINDS.

>>44773452
The ur~Commies in Russia started out atheist but readopted Orthodox iconography to boost morale during WWII. The Imperium started atheist but went Catholic when it suited them

It's ridiculous to call the Tau commie and not the Imperium

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>>44773873
>Has anyone got a link to the doom of mymeara 2nd edition pdf? It's not on the mega

What did he mean by this?

>>44773916

Let's work on your formating anon.


CAD 750pts of CSM Slaneesh

>Chaos Lord, MoS, Power fist, Combi-Melta, Sigil

>2x 7 Noise marines, 6 sonic blasters, Doom siren+CCW, Rhino w/ Havoc Launcher

>6 Havocs, 2 lascannon, 2 missile launcher, Icon of excess+CCW

Points per unit isn't needed because the people giving you advice already know.

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>>44774123

>That one autist who replies with a straight face.

Every time.

>>44772612
Cherek Bear-Shoulders.
Wolfy wolf on wolf lord whose saga of kills includes 2 titans, papa Smurf, Abaddon and Smashfucker

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>>44774134
I SECOND YOUR STATEMENT BROTHER, NO CHAPTER IS BETTER THAN THE FIRST LEGION! FOR THE LION!

>>44774140
The Mega hasn't updated Doom of Mymeara to the 2nd edition of it for fucking ever, even though it was updated quite awhile ago. There's ANOTHER mega somewhere that actually does have the newest version, but it's pretty damned hard to find.

>>44773461
It's heresy to question your betters, citizen

>>44773933

Sounds good to me. I forgot to mention I was looking at venomthropes, too, because I love the swarm aesthetic and those are pretty mandatory.

For the various monstrous creatures, are any in particular worth noting? Hive crones seemed cool to me, as well as Tyrannofexes (the anti-infantry variant, not the anti-vehicle).

No love for hiveguard, though? They just seem super awesome for vehicle popping, and avoiding line-of-sight just sounds like map hax. Even if they're not good, I might just get some because I love the look of them, but I was wondering if they're actually useful.

>>44774055
>Why does Kharn hate the Imperium so much?

Anthrocentrism.

>How did his chain axe not break when he fought Necron Ovrelord? The only weapons that can survive clashing with Necron warscythes are power weapons.

I2.

(You know the goal of close combat isn't to hit your enemy's weapon, right? It's to hit your enemy.)

>>44774055
His chain axe was forged by a Primarch himself and blessed by Khorne.

It won't break.

>>44774055
Kharn doesnt have a normal chain axe, he has the custom discarded weapon of Angron, primarch to the world eaters, made of the teeth of a mars/void dragon (hinted to be necron related).

Also kharn hates the imperium because its the direct opposing force to chaos. So far story wise he shouldnt hate them any harder than he hates anything as a berzerker, he just shows up because even chaos doesn't consider xenos to be any real threat.

the real fight is with the Imperium of Man.

>>44774171
link to this other mega?

>>44774160

Am I Leo or Gaga in this situation?

>>44772612
Actually I am struggling to come up with a good name for my new wolf lord and his wolf guard for the narrative campaign starting soon

>>44774192
https://mega.nz/#F!BxI1HSgI!0tKymKh9RZTzGpgIA5EyCg

Some list I made to weed out my weekend friends from my real friends

Hunter Contingent

Hunter Cadre
Commander (C&C, Sensor Suite, Neuroweb)
3x Crisis Suits (dual plasma, 2 w/fusion 1 w/flamer)
6x Pathfinders
Hammerhead (Submun, SMS, sensor spines)
3x 5-man Strike Teams

Firebase Support

Riptide (ion, SMS, stim)

Broadside (HYMP, SMS)

Broadside (HYMP, SMS)

999 pts

>>44774202

Gaga of course.

>>44772612
Bonhut, a Necron Lord who was very insistent on giving nothing but the best transference to his entire domain, even the lowliest Warrior. Well, it turns out that such frivolities are a major drain on resources, so he only managed to get a small amount in. Combined with his tomb world's stasis protocols mucking up and killing around half of that, he's only got a fraction of the forces that most Lords would have. Genuinely cares for his men, but absolutely no-one else.

>>44774211
I was the original anon, thanks!

>>44774142
Sorry, I'm a newbie
any tips though? x

>>44774203
You should definitely look to traditional scandanavian names for your Space Wolf character. If not, then this Dwarf Name Generator set to "Warhammer Fantasy Dwarves" can make some pretty great names.

>>44774216

Seems largely tame. You know everyone you play against is gonna contest the Buffmander issue though? Easier to just do something else.

>>44774275
I forgot the link..

http://dwarf.namegeneratorfun.com/

>eldar can now deal with
>deathstars
>any version of super heavy
>psychic phases
>and objectives

Why aren't you playing the best army competitively?

>>44774055
He probably hates the Imperium most for killing his Warmaster and rejecting Chaos

Also killing his canon love interest

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>>44774123
>Imperial Guard aren't useless meat for when GW needs to kill billions of people before 10 marines save the day
>Ward was even debatably a good writer
>Angron does anything but autist rage
>Dark Angels are traitors
>Orks are backdrop

>>44774211
But that doesn't have the updated IA11?

>>44774181
>I2.

Objection.

We have recorded fights of Captain and High Marshal Helbrecht against Necron Overlords. The Necron Overlords struck with so much force and speed that the marines had no choice but to parry the attacks or redirect the force. If the attack connected, the marine would have been smashed aside.

High Marshal Helbrecht force weapon ultimately was shattered in the fight.

>>44774310
Captain Cato*

>>44774279
What issue? are you saying theyd contest whether he buffs everybody when they shoot as one?

>>44774203
Canis Wolfman
Wermarine Foxwolf

>>44774300
Because I still have friends and I'm not a dick. You should consider visiting Kurt Cobain's dentist.

>>44774179
I cant actually give straight player experience since my brother stopped playing his Nids after the abomination that was the 5th ed codex. I do know Crones are considered one of the best creatures in your codex. Not sure on Tyrannofexes and Hiveguard (although they Guard sound good)

>>44774310

Well yes, that's because Necron Lords were I4 before the 5th edition codex randomly decided everyone needed the same initiative score.

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>>44772612
Still trying to figure out a backstory for my terminator interrogator chaplain and whether I could use it as an excuse to paint him like this or not.

No doubt I'll just steal a name from the bible like every other DA guy, Azariah is what I'm leaning with but apparently it's still in use so it could be a dumb choice.

>>44774330
People don't get that inclusive statements don't have exclusive implications in writing, for some reason.

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>>44774216
>Some list I made to weed out my weekend friends from my real friends

How is this list going to do that?

>>44774216
It's OK.

>>44774266
I don't know about CSM, however.

Those Havocs are mainly going to be in the back while those Noise Marines will be more front line. They should have the Icon of Excess. Missile launchers are kinda lame, plasma cannons (if Chaos has access to such) would be better.

Havoc launchers on the Rhinos sound cool but points are better spent buffing both Noise Marines with an Icon. They're only 11 FA, they're at real risk of dying before they do anything.

>>44774300
I already play Tau.

>>44774300
Because I play for fun with subpar shit that I like?

>>44774330

Yes.

It's hotly debated, and regardless of the actual conclusion of the debate a blatant dick combo regardless.

Also it's not even necessary: With marker sharing you can get the same results minus the Neurochip's effect with 3 marker hits. (2 for ignores cover, 1 for BS4, combined fire buff for BS5)

>>44774360
weekend friends will argue combining rules with me. real friends will realize were just there to have fun.
>>44774359
right?

Overall, i just wanted to see how well the firebase support works when combined with everybody shooting at once.
>everybody is tank hunting, rerolling, markerlight-burning greater good

>>44774330
Well the ITC did rule against it. While you certainly don't have to abide by them, they are a voice of reason people respect.

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>>44774300
>Playing elves
>Playing elves in space

>>44774422
ITC ruled a nerf, departing from the 'how should this be interpreted' to 'what do you want to play it as', with a post clarifying that it's about nerfing it or not.

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>>44774357

You can tell this isn't official 40k art because it's missing elements typical of GW's stuff.

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Why does Eldar use child soldiers?

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>>44774413
>weekend friends will argue combining rules with me. real friends will realize were just there to have fun.

Did you mean to say real friends will realize you're just there to fuck them in the ass?

>>44774413
>real friends will realize were just there to have fun
>real friends will let me win
I fixed your spelling

>>44774478
>>44774476
real friends realize its all just for the greater good

>>44774476
>>44774478
>Not having a meta rife with Eldar, Necrons, SM and Imperial Knights.
Having played Tau all throughout the time in 7th where they were mid tier at best, I can get wanting to tank-hunt some broadsides into a Knight.

>>44774464
>why does the race that caused the Horus Hersey, the rise of chaos, redirects Ork and Hive Fleets to other planets, and be gigantic dicks in general do bad things.

>>44772791
To be fair, You'd spend the next two turns removing 'JAM' tokens from the models though.

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>>44774464 because Avatar of Kony

>>44774530
You've given me horrible PTSD flashbacks to Space Hulk.

Fuck. Space. Hulk.

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Why are bunkers more fragile than vehicles?

>>44774569
no machine spirit, obvi

>>44774464
Dunno... but I just bagged a load of old, metal, guardians. Fear my twinkly, Las-Gun wrath!

Thankfully I Have enough plastic arms for them... I only bought them to go with my Epicast Falcon Grav-Tank.... but might have to buy an Armorcast Falcon one for the second squad.

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>>44774457
Haha nice, it's also far too gritty for modern 40k artwork.

>>44774413

Buddy, if you made our friendship contingent on whether I accept standing around being a shooting gallery for a rules lawyer build, which one of us is being the dick?

>>44774530
But removing/adding tokens is why I loved epic. It was half wargame half yugioh.

>>44774569

The better question is, "Why do Loyalists use bunkers decorated with their own ally's corpses." It's only encourage the spread of disease.

>>44774526
>causedthe Horus Heresy
You've got some pretty special doublethink going on if you think Eldar caused the HH and not Colchis assholes
>redirects Ork and Hive Fleets to other planets
Inquisitor Kryptmann says "hi"
>child soldiers=bad things
I bet you think sex between 17-year olds is pedophilia

>>44774592
>rules lawyer build
i just thought id would be a fun thing to make, but sure ok im being a dick.
do you ever have fun?

>>44774266
Also, do not put a MoS on a unit with a power fist...

>>44774569
Because you touch yourself at night

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>>44774587

What about that magos machine spirit? Is that the poor man's machine spirit or somethin?

>>44774620
UH, ALL THE ELDAR OR XENOS AS I LIKE TO CALL THEM, GET OFF THIS COMMUNITY BECAUSE IT'S FOR HUMANITY ONLY, UNDERSTAND? CAUSE IF YOU DON'T I WILL MAKE ELDAR ASS-SLAVES TO SLAANESH AGAIN!!!

>>44774627
It would seem silly, but the thinking behind it is he'll still outspeed every other I4 unweildy

>>44774620
>fuck Slaneesh into existence
>Slaneesh woke up the other gods
>the ruinous powers started to plot
>takes the Primarchs away
>corrupts Primarchs after their less than optimal "child hood"

Kryptman simply lead then to Ork worlds. Who cares.

>>44774624
How is that formation any more fun than just taking everything normally and firing it at one unit?

>>44774624
>do you ever have fun?
Not against anyone like you that's for sure

>>44774526
>caused the Horus Hersey
>redirects Ork and Hive Fleets to other planets
Enlighten me

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>>44774689
Harlequins end goal is having slaanesh vomit up all the eldar souls they've eaten over the years. Being weakened like that would allow the other gods to fuck him up.

>>44774624
>do you ever have fun?

Well, I don't take a Decurion when playing Necrons, and avoid power builds as Daemons, so yes.

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>>44774619

Hey now, this is pretty good stuff if you play chaos marines.

>>44774689
No, 40k has always been Grim Dark. I bet they want to sell AoS to children.

>>44774669
What

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>>44774590
The shift towards third-party, less intricate art is depressing. The intricate, two-page battle spreads were one of the big reasons I got into 40k in the first place.

>>44774689

>Diazmonettes

Good taste. Those things are responsible for like three of my fetishes.

>>44774719
>>44774684
>anything good cant possibly be fun
ok

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HE HAS NO STYLE

HE HAS NO GRACE

THIS WARMASTER HAS A FUNNY FACE

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>>44774686
>Enlighten me

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Why is twin-lined a re-roll to hit instead of a re-roll to wound/penetrate?

>>44774669
You are wrong, but explain your logic so we can tell you why you are wrong

>>44774843

Love the camo job.

>>44774812
Shit I didnt know this, cheers anon for Ork fluffers

>>44774812
Wow... what a crappy direction to take the fluff in... He was way cooler when it was a random bolter-shell.

That said, GW are just ace at fucking up anything that works well.

>>44774812
>people still don't know about Eldrad's shenanigans

I feel like I should start a church and go door to door preaching about this crap.

>>44774843
>Why does twin-linked not double the amount of shots in the shooting weapons profile

>>44774843
It used to be 'one roll to hit but two actual hits', but that was in 2nd. I thing it's meant to represent using the first shot to 'lead' the target.

>>44774673
>Kryptman simply lead then to Ork worlds. Who cares.
And the Eldar simply led them to Armageddon, who cares?

>>44774897
>'one roll to hit but two actual hits'

That makes a fuck ton more sense.

I mean, it'd have to be both rarer and more expensive, but you can't say it doesn't make a fuck ton more sense.

https://archive.is/T7tOl

Thoughts.

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>>44772612
Grey Knights Librarian, Leon Sariel, not much to his backstory other than leading the cleansing/prevention of demonic incursions on several worlds.

Tau Commander, Northwind is the leader of the combat forces for the Tau of the T'ron expedition, while the leader of the entire expedition is the stoic Ethereal Aun'ke. The purpose of the T'ron expedition is to experiment with terraforming technologies and to begin attempts to rejuvenate the worlds in the Zone of Silence by reintroducing key components required for life to be sustainable. Pic related, propaganda style picture of Aun'ke, Shas'o Northwind is still being built.

>>44774897
2nd was the only time it made sense. If you have two barrels welded together pointed at the same thing, then if one hits 99.99% of the time the other does too.

Re-roll to hit is certainly useful, and much much preferred over Master Crafted (where you need to roll the MC weapons individually), and it also fills a mechanical sweet spot rather than simply increasing BS or number of shots, but fluffwise it's total nonsense.

>>44774931
I prefer the "shit I missed, better shoot again" thing because it becomes impromptu AA if you need it.

whats the best way to play ghostkeels?, i was thinking of rolling a squad of three all with the cyclic ion rakers and fusion.

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Could someone post the rules for the new IG starting set ?

Also are the minis exactly as in the picture ? Because that would leave you with one spare Guardmen (the HW team consists of the Guards, right ?).

>>44774942

Isn't the Tervigon just a big ol' vagina?

>>44774997

Models from the formation within 6" or 12" of the russ get 4+ cover. Pretty lazy formation rules imo.

>>44774942
Fuck off back to Tumblr.

>what is Sisters of Battle
>who is Shadowsun, Hero of the Tau
>Eldar in general

2/10 made me reply.

>>44774777
>anything good cant possibly be fun
>weekend friends will argue combining rules with me. real friends will realize were just there to have fun.
Its not your list anon, its you

>>44774995
>i was thinking of rolling a squad of three all with the cyclic ion rakers and fusion.
That is optimal normal, consider swapping for Burst cannons if in a OSC. Taking multiple in a squad (especially 3) is very strong, and shouldn't be done to to weaker a codex. (specifically guard)

>>44774997
4+ cover for formation infantry within 6" of the tank

>>44774942
Post it in thread where my filters can hit you faggot.

>>44774985

That's a tactical advantage of the rules, not a simulationist element.

>>44774942
>Tyranids are basically bugs, so again, genderless.
wat

Aside from the fact this cunt clearly doesn't know what the fuck they're talking about, who cares? GW isn't going to change it

>>44774871
Crappy direction? It was always the case.

>>44775059
Cool story anon, you should tell it in threads.

>>44775021
and yet its fucking great

>inb4 markerlights

>>44774942
>What is Slaanesh?
Slaanesh's domain of excessive sexuality covers all that Bumblr gender shit instantly. There's probably a pleasure cult that is exactly like SJWs where they take pleasure in seeing who can have the longest gender title or the most prefixed gender title.

>>44775051
i was thinking of taking 3 purely for the +1 ballistic desu

>>44774995

Give them the overwatch boosting item by default, I've killed tons of things that way, and any survivors just sucked up BS2 shooting (plus supporting fire, I usually keep marker drones close behind them so it's often actually BS3 or 4 too) before getting into assault with three monstrous creatures.

FNP is handy, but better on single suits as it's a massive point sink to equip a unit with the system.

>>44775074
He rose up in the ranks from a lowly nob to the warlord we know after taking a bolt to the skull and getting some fun surgery from grotsnik that made up believe (which turned out to be true) that he was being spoken to directly by gork n mork. That's what it says in the ork codex anyway.

>>44775042
it actually hasnt happened at my flgs yet, it was a joke.
like you.

>>44775025
Hey i think this report is bullshit (hence the archive) I just wanted your guys opinion on it.

>>44774762
and this is nothing: you should see what they did to fantasy, 40k's future is sure to be dark and grim, not in the way we'd like it to be, though.

>>44774942
Ok anon, I'm triggered, good job

>The Eldar do … okay, but not great. They have a handful of female models in their basic units, and an all female (or according to certain sources, all identifying as female, which is as close as we’re going to get to transgender models)
>I always read tyranids as all female - they sail through the universe making everything into more tyranids through feminine organic birthing as opposed to masculine mechanical construction. They were my girls, cutting through a sea of rancid testosterone with claws and teeth only to create, not destroy... such a pretty pretty swarm...

I'm actually completely fine with gay, trans etc. I think that they should be able to marry and adopt, but this is some ridiculous level of bullshit

>>44775152
At least the end times had awesome art.

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>>44775074
>>44774812
>>44774871
This is from the Ghazghkull Supplement, the Eldar codex writer was just trying to make his elves super kewl

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>>44774942

>There Are Only Men, and It’s Terrible
>Hi, my name is James

my opponent got a deepstrike mishap with some of his terminators, and rolled a 2 on the table - indicating that I should place the unit. Are there any restrictions where I can place? Is it the whole board?

>>44775107
The fact that they can deny fire 3 times is also fairly ridiculous.

>>44775209
>Implying both aren't true
>Implying farseers didn't manipulate the fight to happen exactly like that
>Implying elves don't ruin everything

>>44775220
Yes you can place it in the corner, no he won't like it.

>>44775213

>Men aren't allowed an opinion on sexism/feminism

Look we all know third wave tumblr feminism is a giant pile of incestuous hugbox bullshit, but let's not pretend you need to be a specific gender to say specific words. Anyone can say stupid or sensible shit.

>>44775150
I guess I'll actually use logic to rip apart the argument.

The Imperium of Man is not supposed to be a place were we want to live. Yes there is no logical reason why the scientist couldn't make female Marines, but that's the entire point. It's sexist because it's supposed to be. You see races such as the Eldar and Tau who openly accept females into their ranks, so does the inquisition. Don't know about the Guard though.

Games Workshop isn't sexist now that Matt Ward left, there are elements of sexism in Warhammer40k because it's a dystopia and there's nothing wrong with that. The author of the article really doesn't understand the fluff or the setting at all.

>>44774896

Presumably a twin linked weapon fires both barrels simultaneously, doubling the number of bullets in the air, but not the number of "shots".

>>44775173
better than the average for 8th edition, I guess, but I fear we will never see the quality of the first years of this millenium ever again.

>>44775250
I don't mind that, I just don't like the thing about the elves purposely making ghaz who he is today, that's dumb.

>>44775256
Will that mean some of his units get killed because theyre off the table?

>>44775021
>>44775057
So they carry around a ruin ? Does this work as a normal formation or are these just special rules for these models and can be used if the models are part of a unit, like a Leman Russ squadron ?

>>44775162
Gay, trans, feminists, loud Italian macho men should be allowed to enjoy their lives, they should also do so without pestering me about it.

>>44775265
> no logical reason why the scientist couldn't make female Marines
The Emperor wanted sons, because he likes things like himself, everyone else who tries to fuck with gene-seeds gets more mutation than success. Honestly I don't see why people hate on the fluff reasoning, there's no advantage to a gender-swap militarily so why risk mucking about?

>>44775299
Ghaz made things himself and followed gork and mork, the elves believe in the butterfly effect and are keen to claim pride over things that aren't theirs, let them be.

>>44775302
No, fuck sake man you're already getting a massive advantage due to a bad roll, why are you even thinking about getting more out of it? You're sounding like the tau players that ask around here to try and squeeze as much bulllshittery out of their codex as they can.

>>44775302
You can't place them so that they would mishap again etc.

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>>44775250
So the Eldar influenced the Imperium, that has been fighting Orks for 10k years, so that they would learn about how Orks worked, and make a base on a random world, that would ultimately result in Ghazghkull.... fucking elves man

>>44775333
We don't really have many loud macho men here, it's probably the american part that fucked it up

>>44775352
Exactly. The Emperor wanted sons.

That's all the reason anyone needs.

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>>44775285
One day, quality art and quality CSM rules will return. For both to happen, faith is necessary. Even if it is misplaced, it's better than abject despair right?

>>44775352
>Honestly I don't see why people hate on the fluff reasoning

It's arbitrary and effects nothing.

They never needed to come up with a "justification" of male marines, they just needed to not bring it up until someone felt like sticking some girl sergeant heads on a tactical sprue.

>>44775369
>Newfags ask about optimization all the time, knowing nothing about what is good.
>When Tau players do it it is some how worse, because there stuff is good-OP.
Get a new trigger anon, this one is boring.

>>44774203
>Nordic name+animal/body part/winter natural disaster on any combination
Sven icetide
Agnar krakenhunter
Brynvald maelstrom
Bor coldfist

>>44775375
It wouldnt cause a mishap, it would just mean a few units are off the table and dont come in, but the first couple units are(right?)
>>44775369
im just learning

>>44775384
Well duh, there's no macho men left in Western Europe.

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>>44775402

They did but they should have left it vague. When they made it a scientific reason that anyone can pull apart they fucked up.

>>44775423
Honestly you should just read the section over again, but no you can't place them so they'd go off the table.

>>44775429

The last macho men of Europe are forming roving rape gangs and attacking police stations.

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>>44775397
>it's better than abject DESPAIR right?
There's no faith in the dark gods, accept damnation.

>>44775402

I still vote we make it Leanne Russ and change exactly nothing about her personality and backstory as a result.

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>>44775369
Are you mad son?

>>44775447
just to clarify - its not the main unit, it would just be the squadmembers

>>44775378
No they clearly took the easier route of trolling the orks into attacking some humans.

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>>44774762

>warham art was ruined forever the day GW art dept discovered asian digital artist freelancers on deviantArt

>>44775510
The guiding model cannot be placed in such a way that models in the unit could not be placed.

>>44775420
>getting upset about tau bullshit getting called out
Did I hit a nerve? I mean, why do you feel like you need to defend those people?

and no, I'm not talking about "is dis gud?" sorts of questions, I'm talking about questions regarding rule bending and how many riptides can fit in a CAD. There's no newfaggotry there, just taufaggotry.

>>44775138
And it always was said in the Eldar codexes that Eldrrad manipulated him, even in old dexes.

You have no room to complain about something as established like this.

>>44775440
>that anyone can pull apart they fucked up.
How so? how is a genetic augmentation to implement on the Y chromosome easy to pull apart? What's even the reason for trying to pull female warriors into this?

>>44774190
>made of the teeth of a mars/void dragon (hinted to be necron related).
Don't say bullshit it is made from the teeth of Mica dragons.

>>44772589
Sternguard, rerolling the AP3 gets hot bolters is amazing, plus it fits the infantry theme of the Fists.

>>44774569
Uhh Sergeant should we at bury these bodies somewhere? At least throw some mud or shit on em?
Should we I dunno at least fish at that grenade launcher? All this gear that we could use?
seriously thats just dumb

>>44775513
....fuck

>>44774812
>>44774860
>>44774871
>>44775250
>>44775250
>>44775250

Is all of /tg/ this terrible at reading comprehension?

The text doesn't says that Ghazkull's rise was the intentional result, just a result of the eldar trying to prevent a waagh.

Tldr, Eldar try to put out a candle with a bucket of jet fuel.

>>44775545
Explain how Ghazghkull was manipulated by Eldrad in 500 words or less, double spaced and with proper punctuation.

I fluff my Wolf Lords as the most powerful and important WGBL, the ones that will take the place of Ragnar, Egil Ironwolf or Engir Krakendoom when they will die, since I like to place my fight in the period shortly after the "stop" of the known fluff.
Am I the only one that does this with them (or when playing vanilla Chapter Master of chapters that have rules for them)?

>>44775539

Wow you actually fall for those trolls? I'm sorry.

>>44775539
>I am triggered and feel the need to insert Tau hate into a perfectly civil thread
>You called my skub boring, and me triggered, so I'll call you triggered.
Still not interesting, try Capslk?

>>44775209
Nope, initially the voices Ghaz heard in his head was Eldrad's which he thought was the voice of the gods.

Then only later in the timeline did Gork and Mork notice Ghaz and make him their true prophet.

>>44775529
digital artists were a cheap solution, not the cause of GW's artistic ruin: the causes were GW not accepting the idea of the artists claiming rights over their creations and GW giving less and less resources to complete art at a faster pace.

GW got ruined when the marketing team became the rotten head of the company rather than another limb.

>>44775573
>>44775545
>>44775573
Please see >>44775209
>muh Eldar genius

Guys, I'm jackshit at listbuilding, can I get some help making a list with what I have available? Luckily for me, my friend has some Tau he can lend to me. I'm fairly new to Tau and my games have proven to be less than successful. The units that are currently available between my friend and I are: 3 Ethereals, 1 Commander, 2 Riptides, 12 Crisis Suits, 2 Broadsides, about 30 Fire Warriors, 20+ Pathfinders, 15 or so Kroot, 2 Gunships, 1 Ghostkeel, 1 Stormsurge, 6 Stealth Suits, and a fuckton of Drones.

>>44775025
>>what is Sisters of Battle
No really, what are they, I don't watch "American Idol"

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>>44775539
>how many riptides can fit in a CAD
why would I bother with a CAD when it's so easy to make you mad

>>44774619

Obviously they died shielding the bunker's holy walls from enemy fire with their meaty bodies.

>just another day in the guard

What army builders do you guys use? Which would you say is the best?

>>44775576
"friendly 750 point list" isn't what I'm talking about either, It's the sort of posts like the one last week or so asking if they could put in codex support systems on a FW tide because they didn't feel it was powerful enough without it.

>>44775586
What is this, #AllTauMatter or something? Why can't you admit your playerbase is full of beardy cunts? Why are you defending them?

>>44775635
Oh wow, you totally showed those nazi conformist barbie cheerleaders.

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>>44775601
>>44775545

>>44775025
>>what is Sisters of Battle
This very general bitches whenever they are brought up
>>who is Shadowsun, Hero of the Tau
I have never in my life seen a Taufag field Shadowsun
>>Eldar in general
You do realize that Farseers are only female in DoW, right? And that GW only makes male model Farseers?

>>44772612

Trying to come up with a name and nickname for a Tau Commander, and the Ethereal above him, that are part of a sept that might as well be ruled by run by the Tau's KGB/NKVD. The Home system is close to a black hole result of the experiments that made a couple of suns go Supernova (canon). Colony is made up of descendent of N'dras sept. Large number of Gue'la, including techpriest, are sent to the system for re-education. Heavy emphasis on Water Caste for espionage instead of diplomacy.

>>44775162
Why the fuck does this trigger you, pussy? Someone likes Tyranids and imagines tranny Banshees?

>>44775662
>This very general bitches whenever they are brought up

because the fanbase is insufferable, not because its a faction of women

>>44775662
>I have never in my life seen a Taufag field Shadowsun

I use her for an anti-superheavy unit without needing to take my own superheavy and be a douche.

>>44775666
>tfw Water Caste is hugely unrepresented in the actual game
Sure, we have 2 different alien species, but that's not an actual Water Caste Tau.

>>44775662
They don't bitch about them due to sexism.

Shadowsun is under whelming stats wise and play wise. If you want fun take Farsight, if you want good take a general Commander.

GW also doesn't make a plasma cannon for tactical Marines.

>ordered some new brushes and 40k stuff from a 3rd party seller i always use
>been preparing my order for 2 weeks
>not replying to me
t-thanks

>>44775652
>An entire faction, that was mediocre or UP os often as it was OP, is full power-building cunts.
Maybe don't play with the 15 year olds, fresh in from Friday night magic?

>>44774762

>legs almost as thick as the torso
>tiny pin head
>gigantic scout up front
>dat lack of contrast, too much cold tones on the muhreens against the background
>'muh digital art is bad' maymays

Please stop talking with your anuses.

>>44775265
>I guess I'll actually use logic to rip apart the argument.
And fail miserably, good job son
>Yes there is no logical reason why the scientist couldn't make female Marines, but that's the entire point.
You're just completely wrong here, HH gives us an actual, scientific explanation for why there can never be female marines. >>44775265
>there are elements of sexism in Warhammer40k because it's a dystopia and there's nothing wrong with that
What you fail to understand is that the sexist elements aren't presented as part of the dystopia. 40k openly revels in the fact that billions die for imagined heresy, and the Guard is as likely to kill its own soldiers as the enemy, but in universe these are treated as lamentable facts, and even DEPLORED by sympathetic voices in the fluff. Meanwhile outright sexism in both the fluff and on this board is treated as normal, and not in any way connected to the dystopian aspects of 40k.

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>>44775749

wew lad

>>44775768
Ghaz fighting the humans, and becoming 'the' warboss, are two different intents.

>ork decurion makes ork Boyz free

How broken would this be?

>>44775748
>>An entire faction
Oh okay you suffer from poor reading comprehension. You should have said so in your first reply.

>>44775546
>how is a genetic augmentation to implement on the Y chromosome easy to pull apart
Because all the information contained on the Y chromosome (not much, btw) could easily be added to the Gene-seed itself, and bam both sexes can become SMs.

We've already declared we're doing magic-space-genetic-engineering, but neckbeards got butthurt when the first kid gave his space marine a ponytail so now we have to bullshit a reason why that can't happen.

>>44775812
>>AoS

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>>44774942
>5 paragraphs of wank before actually starting the article
HA HA DIDN'T READ

>>44775768
and the ork codex has grotsnik blow the heads off of any opposition ghaz had in the end, leaving him the only one for the job. There's clearly two different stories being told in each codex.

>>44775791

I like to think Longstrike drove his hammerhead up to three feet away from Pask so he could yell at him.

>>44775761
Where is the evidence for your claim. Sexism on the table and in the fluff that is treated as normal, but not connected to the dystopia?

Give actual tangible evidence, don't generalize.

>inb4 you should just know, it's obvious!

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>>44775812

>games never go past the 1st turn as the Ork player struggles to move all his models

Waaagh?

>>44775659
>getting triggered over a joke
Calm down son.

>>44775846

How else would they have an argument over the parking slot?

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>>44775791
Cool art bro!

>>44775813
>your playerbase is full of beardy cunts
I was presuming you were referring to the Tau faction, Did you mean all of 40k invalidating the premise for this? are you an autistic who hates hyperbole? the world may never know.
;^0

>>44775859
Ain't a trigger and wasn't a joke, no laughs see.

>>44775666

"Comrade Card-Index".

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>>44775749
>unironically thinking digital art is better than modern drawn art

If I said chaos, whats the first CSM faction you think of?

>>44775827
It's just as much bullshit reasoning for it to be possible for the Y chromosome to be added.

You're right were already in magic space genetic engineering, and in this universe it's not possible. So everything presented is 100% bullshit, because it's pretend.

>>44775791
>...And so the great battle began, where the thunder of guns was silenced for a moment as the commanders exchanged sick rhymes for the war was not to be won with blood and thunder but the wicked burns of rapping commaders dissing each other from the cupolas of their vehicles.

>>44775897
>I don't find the bad joke funny, so I should make an equally bad joke, but with more salt.
Too cool for me anon, just too cool.

>>44775925

Black Legion because that's what I play

>>44775925
Iron Warriors

THE FLESH IS WEAK!

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>>44775925
None, I think of WoC

>>44775791

>After protracted battles that lasted several weeks, armoured forces on both sides of the conflict finally exhausted their ammunition stores. Bereft of the ability to snipe at each other through the medium of high explosives, the respective commanders on both sides met instead upon the field of battle to exchange insults. Pask's opening volley, in which he questioned the parentage of Longstrike, was parried deftly by the seasoned Tau campaigner, who instead drew attention to the compensating qualities of the barrels on the tanks Pask favoured. Stung by this unexpected attack, Pask went on the defensive, insinuating a relationship between Longstrike and his drones that, for a member of the Adeptus Mechanicus, would border on heretical. This possibly hit closer to home than the Imperial commander had expected, with his Tau counterpart reduced to stammered spluttering, whilst a number of his Fire Warrior comrades looked acutely embarrassed. Longstrike's attempted retort, in which he stated that only one who partook of such relationships himself would be able to notice the existence of them in others, made little impact, and shortly afterwards the Tau commander was forced to retreat, the various verbal slurs from the Imperials still ringing out across the battlefield.

>>44775925

Word Bearers?

>>44775812
>>44775852
I assume he means you still have to pay for units but "additional boyz" are free.
So it's 60 points for 10 sluggas, get 10 free, 4/pts a model so 80 points to give them all armour, 1/pts for shootas coasting 20 and 10 for the nob for a total of 170 points saving you 60 points.

It actually doesn't sound too overpowered or too far fetched.

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>>44775893
I don't know what your problem is anon, but here have this http://grief.com/the-five-stages-of-grief/

You seem to be on anger right now, I hope you can get over the fact that the faction you chose was also chosen by some terrible people. Maybe one day you'll come to accept that, I really hope you do.

>>44775922
>>44775791

You do realize your beloved Adrian Smith does digital art, right?

>>44775791
The artist of that really liked punishers

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>>44775922

I can cherry pick too, regard.

>>44775827
No you don't understand, it is the gene-seed that works attaching to the Y chromosome, not the genes in the Y attaching to the gene-seed.

An XX Dna wouldn't have the proper "docks" to make gene-seed works apparently.

What is even the reason to have female warriors when there're plenty of men to use that are more fit to the job?

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>>44775925
THE LEGIONS ARE DEAD, A SHADOW OF THE PAST. DAEMONKIN, NOW AND FOREVER

BEHOLD THE CHANGING FACE OF CHAOS

>>44776008
How about just all Boyz upgrades are free including the Nob and his Wargear? Because a Nob PK BP is fucking 46pts off the bat

>>44776069
>modern """"""art"""""
They're both complete shit.

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>>44775574
>Eldrad mind yells: OI DIS BE GORK. YOZ BETTA GO TO DIS PLANET CALLED ARMAGE'EM!
>Ghaz : If you say so

>>44776095
I don't bother with a boss pile in a boy mob, it's not worth the points if you have more than 15 models.

>>44776043
>the faction you chose was also chosen by some terrible people.
>Power-gaming makes you a terrible person.
>You mentioned the fact that I inserted hate-skub into a thread for no reason, therefore you are mad.
Oh no, some WAACfags play the Tau faction in 40k, they are ruined forever. It's a good thing none of the other armies are tainted so.
Still unamused.

>>44776091

Pictured: Khornate bitches too pussy to enter the warp and suplex a Juggernaut until it agrees to be their mount.

>>44775612
It does not contradict anything of what we said. The Dark Angels were the guys who pout a round in his head. It was true even in the old fluff.

Try again.

>>44775660
Like I said the Eldar codexes.

See (>>44774812)

>>44776008

Boyz can go up to 30 models. It would be 120 points for free.

If this was extended to all Ork units it would be pretty broken. A full MANZ unit would have 280 points of free models in it.

>>44776128
>I have no nose, and i must sneeze.

>>44776128

I'm sorry the truth hurts.

>>44776125

This guy has it right. Bad art is bad art. Fine art is fine art. All artists use whatever tools provided to them. But ultimately its up to the commissioner when art is incorporated into publications, such as Games Workshop books. In this case they go with digital because its infinitely faster and less of a hassle to translate that into the medium they are selling you vs getting a proper oil painting or whatever converted over into digital format.

If you want to blame someone, blame GW for picking no-names and slashing their budget literally everywhere to stay afloat because they're a bunch of idiotic dinosaurs. I'm not even sure its the shareholders at this point, I feel like its all Kirby and the sales teams to blame.

>>44776185
This is consistent with the points comp I use to play Hunter Contingent with Orks.

>>44776049
you do realize when people criticize computer generated content is because of the misuse of the medium through cheap effects rather than the assumption of the medium being inferior?

>>44775726

>GW also doesn't make a plasma cannon for tactical Marines.

Muh Dark Vengeance

>>44776185
But he said "boyz" which is the name of a unit in the book

>>44774134
What are the Fallen.

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>>44776151
>yfw BP doesn't reroll leadership
>yfw reroll on "kill yourself" table

>>44776227
>when most people criticize
There are anons and irl scrubs who genuinely assume it's inferior do to legitimate complaints out of context.

>>44772612
Itzamna, the iridescent chimera. Used to be a psyker with mostly divination-focused powers, part of the auxilia and attached to the Alpha Legion to help with intelligence and logistics.
She didn't really completely 100% understood the reasons for which her spehhs mhreens became traitors but it's not like she had any choices, really. If anything, amongst the countless additional dangers there were also more opportunities for those eager to prove themselves.
Except things went to shit, her centurion started cooking up some sort of incomprehensible "master plan" that fucked all of his allies along with his enemies (assuming they worked and didn't just fuck his own allies) with the ultimate goal of ascending to daemonhood; she was, of course, forced to help him out just because she was too useful to be killed.
That made her bitter and jealous because she wanted the extra chaotic opportunities for herself rather than those who already were papa E's favourites, and secretly worked to saboutage him, using divination and staring into the warp to find the perfect moment to betray him and get rid of him once and for all.
And well, it turns out the Dark Gods kind of like that attitude and don't mourn the loss of supplicants that don't make the cut. So there she is.

Truth be told she doesn't really particularly care about the Dark Gods' agenda (or so she boasts), she just thinks she's better than anyone in the Imperium and wants to prove it by kicking the ass of every other Primarch that's still around. She also wants to found her own legion, the XXIst, even though she has no real stock of actual space marines and her attempts at creating them have been... You can't even call them failures, that'd imply there was a vaguely valid attempt. Of course she pesters Fabius Bile every time she can to get him to do that but you can guess how well that works.

I have too much spare time.

>>44775843
Nope, it's the same story but with different characters doing their thing to reach a single outcome.

Which Ghaz being the Warboss and getting him to Armageddon.

>>44776251
A miserable pile of dark angels' secrets.

>>44776227

Actually no, there is a quite vocal cadre of people going 'lewl digital isn't real art' at all times. Source: my ass (I do both, I actually prefer working in traditional media but its frustrating to show someone the exact same painting done traditionally and digitally, and they think the latter is bad or 'fake' because its on a computer monitor.) Its like some caveman shit. 'DURR ME KRUG NO UNDERSTAND IF ME CAN'T TOUCH AND SEE'

>>44776251
Don't encourage RPshit, that how "excuse me" trash got started.

>>44776179
If only there was some way to hate the player and not the faction. You should really try and formulate an argument for why you're defending them next post or there's no point in continuing.

>>44775695
The fact you believe the majority of the 'moaning' on /tg/ is from actual SoB players makes me chuckle sensibly.