Spoiler?

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It's translated.

>>44577034

storm only plays two spells in a turn on the turn they go off, triggering this only once

>>44577034
>4 mana for something that doesn't do anything the turn it comes down unless you have extra mana
>only counts for the second spell for the turn vs every other spell triggering it
Not really making the cut for storm, but are there more "second spell matters" cards coming out? Could be cool

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All planswalkers going up up up

>>44577034
>>44577092
its just for that surge thing right?

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Vigilance

Land creatures you control have vigilance.

Landfall – Whenever a land enters the battlefield under your control, you may have target land you control become a 3/3 Elemental creature with haste until end of turn. It’s still a land.

>>44577109
wow i had a dream where the next oath was +1 loyalty, basically R&D at this point, called something entirely unpredictable and creative

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Oh my

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Reprint
Return to Alara?
Alara?

>>44577034
Sealed fodder at worst, draft bomb at worst. I don't see this making any impact.

>>44577161
>Five color Eldrazi
I feel like this is better as a four-of in a two color, maybe three while fetches are still around, 'Drazi deck to splash for things like Kozilek's Return without having to strictly run red in some aspect.

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Maybe addition to Meren or any other Golgari deck.

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>>44577228
Turn one BONE SAW IS READY.

>>44577034
in case people other than OP don't realize, this only triggers on the second spell. It doesn't trigger on the third, fourth, etc. spells

>>44577034
This + surge cards work nicely with the dash mechanic. Would be a fun deck to play if there's enough cards to make it work. Probably won't be because we can't have nice things.

>>44577450
Maro would never allow support for storm.

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This card makes my dick hard.

So much potential in D&T.

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>>44577134
Land tribal anyone?

>>44577526
I wanna do this for FNM
//Mainboard//
4x Zulaport Cutthroat
4x Eldrazi Displacer
4x Brood Monitor
4x Gather the Pack
4x Painful Truths
4x Silkwrap
4x Murderous Cut
3x Natural Connection
3x Duress
2x Explosive Vegetation
4x Corrupted Crossroads
4x Blighted Woodland
4x Llanowar Wastes
4x Plains
4x Swamp
4x Forest

//Sideboard//
4x Suspension Field
3x Despise
3x Ultimate Price
3x Radiant Purge
2x Languish

>>44577526
Why would anyone ever play this in D&T when Flickerwisp exists? Ever?

>>44577581
iunno, repeatable without anything but land? plus it can target other players' dudes.

>>44577581
> can pull off most of the tricks Flickerwisp can - at instant speed
> gives you ALL the tricks when you have a Flickerwisp in play

>>44577373
Exactly what I was thinking

who is "Cooldown Guy"?

i just played against him in cockatrice

>>44577826
A notoriously bad Custom card maker. Go in the thread and ask for some of his gems

>>44577633
The land tricks with flickerwisp are honestly what makes the card so good. Its like a extra port for a turn, or it makes the card cost 1W if you cast it at sorcery speed.

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>>44577034
No, it's the obligatory red "build around the set mechanic" repeated burn enchantment.
They make those for casual Johnnies (and maybe for Limited??)

>>44579251
There's a torrent with high res grafix of all of the cards. Also missing ghirapur aether grid, lightning rift, and knowledge and power.

>>44577551
So they're continuing with the land creature gimmick? That's disappointing.

>>44577618
So can Wisp, genius. Flickerwisp reads "target permanent". And the option of flickering noncreatures is arguably where it's the most powerful.

>>44577633
Not even close. Neither body has flash, and Displacer either costs 6cmc to flicker the turn you cast it or you have to wait a turn. So Displacer is actually SLOWER than Wisp, and the cost to re-use it is rather steep for the early and midgames. Displacer doesn't play nice with Aether Vial, and it can't hit the variety of permanents that Wisp can.

Death and Taxes absolutely doesn't want this card.

>>44577034
4 mana is a lot to pay for getting a shock once or twice a game.

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>>44579556
Guess WotC doesn't want to accidentally make a good enchantment that burns

>>44577161
Really getting sick of these
>only playable with X
lands. There's been a lot lately and they're all garbage.

>>44580170
desu it would still be shit but I would rather is said "only to play colorless spells", even if ghostfire is literally the only difference it would make, there is no reason to limit it to devoid only.

>>44577419
kek

>>44580249
Colorless spells would include artifacts.

>>44580357
So? The land already produces colorless.

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They spoiled the test of the uncommon creature cicle, enemy colors. I'll try to post asap

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Fucking feminazis, amirite?

>>44580534
Wow

Wizards really likes blue and red huh?

>>44580549
Is that a woman? I legit can't tell

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Hello budget greenwarden

>>44577135
Except it was already a possibility based on the Ajani walker that handed out loyalty counters.

>>44580575
Also this confirms that Zendikar vampires are self-conscious spawns, pretty cool

>>44580575
Into the Karlov you go.

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>>44577228
Bone Saw + Stone Haven Outfitter = Sacrifice an Eldrazi Spawn: Draw a Card

>>44579785
Build-around-theme enchantments are great at 2 mana, occasionally playable at 3 mana, and basically junk at 4 and above.

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>>44580534
That one is pretty awesome. Reminds me of Wee Dragonauts, and in a very good way. Haste and being cheap really plays well with UR Surge spells. Turn 4 drop this, surge a Bolder Salvo to remove their blocker and get in.
>>44580549
This one is ok, but the BFZ didn't contain any good equipment, and Oath only has Stoneforge Masterwork (a rare) and Bone Saw (not good enough if you don't draw the trainer).
>>44580560
Hard to judge how powerful this is. Depends on how good/available removal is in the format. Helps you buy time for larger things, but does nothing about flyers.
>>44580575
Turns "lose less" into "win without attacking". Also has flying and a nice body for defence. Pretty good.
>>44580587
Good god, a "return creatures from your graveyard spell" that doesn't automatically suck! Just having a body at all makes this kind of a two-for-one.

>>44577419
I can't not read it in his voice.

>>44580574
The hairline and the mouth look female. Everything else looks male. I can't tell either.

>>44580575
Would be perfect for my vampire tribal edh deck as a redundant Sanguine Bond for Bond/Blood combo. If it wasn't white. There is literally no reason for this to be white. Draining life on life gain is black. Vampires warriors are black. Why isn't this just mono black?

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>>44580842
Wow, this feels like good potential to play in WG combo with Eldrazi Displacer + Brood Monitor + Altar of the Brood.

Is there good scion generators in this colors?

>>44580946
Since we're probably going to see some kind of bant tempo deck the UG could see constructed play, it basically counters single target removals and at the same time gives you a nice body for a reasonable amount of mana. Otherwise is still an amazing combat trick in limited. I like it a lot

>>44581079
>Muh WB papercuts deck
Also probably can't put an ability like that on a mono colour creature at that cost.

>>44581174
There's a green 1/1 for 4 that makes two scions and a new 2/2 for 3 that makes one.

>>44580549
Literally the die cis scum tattoo freak.

>>44580560
>>44580549
>>44580587
As a commander player these 3 interest me the most.

>>44580575
These uncommons are all pretty good, but I like that they made this one better in almost every way than the rare in last set, Defiant Bloodlord.

Not that this card is overpowered, but it does reinforce how fucking trash that rare was

>>44577161

Oh look! It's parasitic city of brass! God forbid they introduce a city of brass like land that allows you to add colorless mana to your pool.

>>44581693
Oh, I missed that the uncommon only drains for 1 at max. That's... disappointing.

>>44579251
Sometimes I dream burning vengeance is common and I get to play pseudoloam in pauper.

>>44580534

I like this fella quite a bunch. He's one spell away from bolt protection, has evasion, and a lot of synergy with other spells matter creatures in UR.

All the others seem alright, and the WR and WB ones are soon to be casual EDH all stars.

>>44580574
The Eldrazi invasion has been tough on the women of Zendikar

>>44577581

It can target opponent creatures

>>44581957

So can Flickerwisp

Come on don't be too hard with displacer, it's slower than Flickerwisp but it could find it's place in the side of a D&T, maybe even one or two copies as a main. Once the game goes late it's absurdly better.

>>44577109
So, how's the red Oath gonna be?
Exile top card, you may cast it until end of turn + Whenever you activate a loyalty ability, deal 1 damage to target creature or player? TOP KEK.

>>44577034
>can only have one second spell per turn
>this is good for storm
>didn't get aborted

g-g-golly gee it'll only take me 10 turns to kill my opponent now!

>>44581720
Meh, I think it's fine. You want to use this with multiple different triggers, not with one big trigger. I can get behind it.

>>44577228
>worse for any non-cheerio deck than shuko
Have they even been trying to make equipment viable recently?

>>44580575
>this with Brutal Hordechief

Too bad it's a 4 drop. I could've used a another 3 drop creature for my standard deck.

>>44580549
I'm liking this equipment matters subtheme going on, but unless they have any decent equipment it won't matter at all

>>44577526
>>44580575
Oh look, now you just need to flicker the Brood Monitor 4 times instead of 7 to win with the Zulaport Cutthroat on the field.

>>44581550
Why Void Grafter? Doesn't Ranger's Guile do the same thing for G? Also when is one-turn Hexproof ever useful in EDH?

>>44582483
The or player part tested too strong. It's only creature. Same reason they took bathe in dragonfire, bumped it's cost up, and attached a shit mechanic to it

>>44580392
Sunburst.

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>>44582902
Also

>>44577526
Brago EDH will love this

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Creature - Eldrazi
Devoid, flying

When Inverter of Truth enters the battlefield, exile all cards from your library face down, then shuffle all cards from your graveyard into your library.

>>44580575
Karlov EDH will love this. A shame it's pretty expensive.

>>44583285
A flying 6/6 for 4 is pretty good, but is that downside really worth it?

>>44583285
>6/6 flying for 2BB
>that drawback

Nope, looks like I'll be sticking with D-Demon

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4 mana 2/2, and the zombies come in tapped? Meh. When I read the name, I expected something better.

Maybe in limited

>>44580534
is it me or is his head huge?

>>44583285
The only combos I can think of doing with this Doomsday would do better, shame. It's about a billion times worse than stuff like Yagwin too.

and I expected good or at least playable allies...

>>44583348
Mind you, you need to tap ANOTHER creature too. And it has to be an ally.

So you don't attack (and neither block, 'cuz a fucking 2/2 ain't blocking jackshit) 1-2 creatures to get a 2/2 zombie that it isn't even an ally? Nice parasites senpai.

>>44583388
hey, >>44580575 is an ally and seems playable, I mean Cutthroat and Healer now drain twice as fast with him.

>>44583410
It should at least be like a 2/4 with flying or something, so you can block something with it.

>>44583410
limited late-game, both players in topdeck mode, slowly building up creatures, is about the only way I see this being useful.

>>44583446
I play in a pretty casual draft, but if I could actually beat my friends with this.

The salt would be unreal

>>44583446
I can't wait to draft four of these in limited and win the game with them

>>44583446
HAH! I love it!

>>44583451
Then it means you're either winning or having a better board, where you can afford to not go face.

>>44583446
Okay, let's ignore the stupid wincon for a moment, because that's never going to be relevant.
2 mana repeatable scry is somewhat nice, I guess, as a mana sink

>>44583446
>hedron wincon
Okay, they have a blank cheque for whatever garbage set they want to print this time around.

hedrons and filibusters all day long

>>44583285
Am I the only one here who thinks there might be some really fucking neat interaction for this somewhere? And we're just not seeing it?

>>44583446
>have one in graveyard and one in play.
>Scry a bunch of times until you keep card on top as opponent is about to attack with ingest creatures
>psyche opponent out of attacking

>>44583516
laboratory maniac+empty graveyard

>>44583516
Anything that has an effect that fucks around with your deck and grave has them, somewhere.

>>44583516
Leveler.

I'm a little confused as to why it exiles your library face down.

>>44583543
So your opponent can't look at your entire deck, maybe? Or to prevent interaction with >>44583446

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I love how all the others Oaths are "SERIOUS BUSINESS" and Chandra is just "Lol, seems fun, maybe if I'm not busy, see ya, peace out"

>>44577373
Aristocrats?

>>44583285
Being able to turn your library into the cards you want has got to have some absurd application.

>>44583446
Alright, what ways are there to exile your own enchantments? Probably easiest to get it into the yard then exile it from there

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>>44583571
Okay. Maybe it's not as terrible as I expected. Removes a possible attacker that would hurt your walkers. Second ability looks like shit.

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Seems decent.

Love how the art continues from Bonds of Mortality.

>>44583571
I guess a sorcery-speed Lightning Strike is... something?

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>>44583606

>>44577034
Seems overcosted. Had it cost half as much I think it would have had the potential to lead to some interesting Standard decks that focuses on playing at least two spells each turn.

>>44583590
kills rhino and is hard to remove, pretty good

>>44583606
>they actually manage to kill the Eldrazi titans

F U C K Y O U

>>44583606
>>44583619
Well done guys, you just shoved them back into the Blind Eternities again.
>Ugin Slowclaps

>>44583571

I'm disappointing that this does nothing to help out the superfriends strat like the other Oaths.

>>44583636
well, she incinerated the hand the titans have in the pond

>>44583622
For timmies I guess.

>>44583571
The second ability is really bad, so I guess it's a worse Draconic Roar. I'd be upset, but well, we already expectec the red oath to be bad.

>>44583606
>>44583622
>flavor texts
We won't get a cycle of 4 then

>>44583606
Can we stop for a minute and contemplate just how powerful Chandra actually is?

>>44583652
it's only 2 mana.

>>44583622
Pretty good in EDH, hexproof and indestructible are a lot more common there.

>>44583571
Still fapable.

>>44583656

She just knocked em down, Jace is the one who lined em up.

>>44583446
There are still tutor spells in Standard, am I right?

>>44583656
>Chandra is powerful enough to burn the fuck out of Eldrazi gods
>Still gets the shittiest Planeswalker cards.

>>44583590
>Second ability looks like shit.

Apparently you know nothing about card advantage.

>>44583656
her entire thing is setting stuff on fire, of course she's good at burning stuff

>>44583556
I highly doubt it has anything to do with Hedron alignment because if you have more than a single copy of it in your library you then have to figure out a way to get a copy from exile to another zone.

I assumed it was to not give your opponent information but even then that seems like a lot of baggage for a minimal payoff. If I know the top card of an opponent's library (through Roil Spout as an in-block example) do I know which facedown card in my opponent's exile zone is the creature I sent to the top? If I use an eldrazi processor, can I select that creature?

>>44583689

He's talking about the Chandra card.

>>44583689
He means "Burn your opponents for 2" on the chandraswear.

Also reality smasher might even see some play in eternal formats.

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>>44583672
>it's only 2 mana.
Yeah, your point?

>>44583703

Hasty colorless beaters are a big deal, as it turns out.

>>44583711
If you play two planeswalkers, she's better than Draconic Roar with a Dragon

>>44583679
Sidisi and Dark Petition, maybe something else that that targets enchantments specificly.

You'll probably want to get two in your grave, get the enchantment out and EoT Delve one away to draw into the other with treasure cruise.

>>44583606
>>44583622
From the article:
>The flavor text on Fall of the Titans reads, "Chandra incinerated the bound Eldrazi titans." Unless the Eldrazi have developed a recent immunity to immolation, I think this is it. The good guys win!
Good grief, does no-one at wizards read the fluff they write?
>And the best part? These two cards work together exactly the way you'd hope. If you cast them both with enough mana available, you can defeat both Ulamog and Kozilek in a single shot.
...unless the Kozilek player has a cmc 2 card in hand, which he can use to counter Bonds of Mortality, leaving Ulamog untouched.

>>44583606
>>44583622
>the same scene depicted on several cards
I don't like it.

>>44581717
probably didn't want to introduce something strictly better than the existing painlands

>>44583748
Why not?

>>44583590

I don't know if I like the idea of {C} being this efficient this low on the curve, or having such strongly coloured abilities.
I mean, as a player I love it: solid beatdown with pretty art. From a design point of view I worry about {C} accidentally becoming the (pseudo)colour of "everything at a great cost!" over the long-term life of the game.

>>44583793
>over the long-term life of the game.
do you think it will show up a lot in future sets? I thought it's pretty exclusive to eldrazi for now

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>>44583285

>>44583582
Erase.
>W
>Instant
>Exile target enchantment.

>>44583606
>>44583622
You still didn't kill them, you chucklefucks, you just made shit worse.

>>44583805
Can't use that ability while it's face-down

>>44583805

Doesn't work, since it'll be face down

>>44583793
>From a design point of view I worry about {C} accidentally becoming the (pseudo)colour of "everything at a great cost!" over the long-term life of the game.

From what I understand, (C) in mana costs isn't going to make an appearance in every set and will be used infrequently.

>>44583738
But Draconic Roar has instant speed. Of course you'll get more value of the oath if you keep casting planeswalkers. Still, 1 damage for another card isn't exactly that great.

My point is that the ETB effect is to weak for a legendary enchantment, because it's THE red effect. It's already competing with tons of other red cards on all rarites.

The other oaths can be treated as sorceries because their ETB effects more or less stand on their on. This one is just weaker by comparison.

>>44583750
Much like how Wizards don't print lands that are strictly better than basics anymore, they also don't print lands that are strictly better than shocklands or painlands. Those are about as good as dual lands are allowed to be.

>>44583820
>>44583825
Shit, I missed the face down part. Bet they did that on purpose to ruin my fun.

>>44583793
>From a design point of view I worry about {C} accidentally becoming the (pseudo)colour of "everything at a great cost!"
So, artifacts?

>>44583830

True, but over decades it's still playing with fire and I'm a conservative stick-in-the-mud.

They should totally print "Ugin's Distain"
>{c}
>instant
>Exile target Ugin Planeswalker you control.
>Fuck this. Fuck you. I'm out.

>>44583590
Holy shit this breaks limited
>>44583285
>mfw processors work with opponents exile zone
Desecration Demon is completely on another level

>>44583864
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slippery_slope

>>44583843

Fairly likely, if I'm honest.

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>>44583348
On curve with this

May be good in limited if you get a lot of Cohort creatures and allies.

>>44583854

Which are also inappropriate when pushed too hard, dispite having stronger hate printed. I consider Wurmcoil Engine a travesty.

>>44583876
Right after Ob's oath to make all those kids eath serious shit

>>44583884

Cohort is actually pretty bad with other cohort cards, since they all require extra creatures.

>>44583571
>>44583446
>>44583348
So many mythics you can't first-pick during a draft, holy shit.

>>44583622
What is with all these green cantrips, holy shit

>>44583911

>mythics

>>44583911
They're rare. Anyway I don't mind, uncommon have been more than decent so far

>>44583935

You can totally first-pick that Chandra card too, it's solid removal for limited.

>>44583919
>>44583935
meant to say rare

>>44583884
Was steel overseer so strong they had to staple 3 mana onto its cost and then make you tap another creature?

>>44583964
Steel overseer is really strong, but both cards are nothing alike, specially in limited play

>>44583955
It's a sad day for mtg the one when you can call a rare, sorcery-speed searing spear that only hits creatures a "solid removal". Anyway I probably won't pick a good common over it, but considering the amount of cool uncommon in the set this is barely a first pick.

>>44583446
>>44583285
Am I the only one seing this interaction? You discard one hedron as 8-card you have in hand, play one and exile the whole library with that dude. Win the game next upkeep.

>>44583880
Not the guy you're responding to, but I always wondered why "Slippery Slope" is considered a falacy. Either the thing you claim it's leading towards isn't connected at all, in which case it's just a non-sequitur. Or it is connected, in which case it's a valid point.

>>44583571
Why does Wizards hate Chandra so much?
Anything involving her that is printed is always shit.
I'm still mad that I pulled her as my first planeswalker in M15 only for her to be shit then every card I see involve her since then is just as bad.

>>44584011
it exiles them face-down. Face-down cards do not have a name

>>44584019
> The strength of such an argument depends on the warrant, i.e. whether or not one can demonstrate a process that leads to the significant effect. This type of argument is sometimes used as a form of fear mongering, in which the probable consequences of a given action are exaggerated in an attempt to scare the audience. However, if an argument uses valid reasoning, it would not identify by the slippery-slope approach.

>>44584011
Are you retarded or just unable to read?

>>44583606
>Kozi and Ula were killed by a big Fireball
Wow.

Epic.

>>44584007

For limited, you dingus. Most removal is good in limited.

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>>44583606
>>44583622
> both Eldrazi titans beaten by a rag-tag group of random planeswalkers pulled from the Blind Eternities

Fuck this new Avenger wannabe bullshit.

>>44584047
>Permanents your opponents control lose Indestuctable

Learn to read

>>44584100
*creatures, my bad

>>44584053
I know but even boulder salvo, at common, is far better than this. I'm not saying it's not playable, I'm saying that if you first pick it the pack must be really poor.

>>44584100
>Kozi exiles a cmc2 card and counters Bonds
What now mortal?

>>44583606
I'm p sure incinerating the Eldrazi will backfire (kek) somehow. Ugin was useless on the plot of Oath so far, he needs to come and help somehow.

I don't think that they're going to properly kill the eldrazi- I reckon that the most they'll do is to either kill the "hands" that are in zendikar, and the oath of the gatewatch is for them to look out and look for any sign of the eldrazi reappearing on other planes.

>>44584126

It's only better when you can pay the surge cost, which will be far from all the time.

Also, 2 mana 3 damage removal tends to be very high picks. Sure, I'd rather have a lightning strike, but it's still a good first-pick.

>>44584135
I fuck Kosi's mom

>>44584099
You know what I fucking hate the most about this Avenger bullshit? These four planeswalkers were on Zendikar when the Eldrazi broke free. As far as I know, they didn't grow in power all that much in the meantime nor have they gained any special abilities. And they're fucking beating the shit out of those Eldrazi. Only difference is they now have Ugin, who's doing absolutely nothing here.

From what I remember in original Zen, this Eldrazi stuff was supposed to be way more menacing.

>>44584176

>Implying it has a mom

>>44584155
>>44584157
Ugin told Jace that killing them probably doesn't work because they might just unattach their "main body" in the Blind Eternies and go to fuck shit up somewhere else.

>>44584176

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cHa81UKTamk

>>44581717
They did. Twice.
The first was in Odyssey and tapping for colored mana bolted you.
The second was in Onslaught and entered the battlefield tapped.

It turns out that City of Brass is really fucking good and the ability to just have a single land that was strictly better than an entire cycle of already playable duals (and a really shitty cycle of duals from Tempest but those can be ignored) was retarded.

>>44584183

I think they got power ups through some McGuffin, so it's not exactly unexplained, just a big asspull.

>>44584187
Reread Bonds of Mortality's flavor text. They anchored them into reality.

>>44577070
well fuck

>>44583606

well thats anti climactic.

>>44584214
They got no power ups, Ugin taught Jace some stuff about harnessing hedrons, and now all the leylines do whatever he tells Nissa to do with them.

>>44584261

So they did it with leyline McGuffins. Great.

>>44580534
jeskai now has 2-drop almost mantis rider, mantis rider, and 4 drop almost as good as mantis rider

i really want to hit guys with mantis riders again instead of this pussy painful truths+soulfire bullshit

>>44584215
I did. But what we're seeing are essentially their 3D protection into the plane.

It would be like nailing your shadow in one place with some McGuffin device and then setting it on fire.

>>44584287
Don't forget Hedrons. Fucking Hedrons, man.

>>44584215
Yeah but the bodies are reflexes of their true selves in the Blind Eternities, maybe burning the bodies won't kill them after all.

>Three old walkers, one of which was an eldar dragon, have trouble stopping the Eldrazi
>Four neowalkers, which are all just regular mages and shit with only the ability to planeswalk making them special, are able to beat them with little problem

>>44583582
>>44583806

>HEXPROOF

read the fucking card i swear i would fucking stab you

>>44584298

I feel like if they were actually killable Ugin and company would have done it a long time ago, seeing as how they were nigh-omnipotent gods last time around.

>>44584329

Hexproof doesn't do shit if you're targetting your own stuff.

>>44584307
Wasn't the whole point made by Ugin was that trapping them on a plane is a significantly better option than just destroying them? The OGW retard squad is creating more problems than they can solve.

>>44584329
How about you read the card? It has hexproof, not shroud

>>44584287
Bigger question: Why didn't Nahri, the oldwalker who BUILT the damn Hedrons and was tapped in to every leyline on Zendikar do this? Sorin could then have just pulled the life out of them, no muss no fuss. Oh wait, THEY DID. It didn't work, they just came straight back again. That was when they agreed to Ugin's plan to capture them instead.

So now they're just loose in the Blind Eternities again. Bravo Jace, Bravo.

>>44584100
Nothing to do with thinking it doesn't work. Everything to do with it being a lame as fuck ending.

>>44584348
>>44584355

Wizards better not do something BS as saying they're actually dead and gone. The eldrazi were pretty specifically immune to getting killed physically.

>>44584333
>>44584307
Ugin didn't want to kill them because he couldn't tell what the consequences could have been. There's an high chance that Jace and the Cool Kids fucked up big time.

>>44584383
They'll be "killed" just like, say, Superman kills Brainiac from time to time on the comics. They'll be back.

>>44584372
>Magic storylines
>ending
>ever

They won the Battle For Zendikar, big surprise there. Now we get to see Eldrazi on other planes as a consequence of their stupidity. Who knows, we might actually get to see the shitwalkers develop as characters?

>>44584329
>They changed shroud into hexproof because it confused retards
clearly wotc underestimated their retards

>>44584307

>Four neowalkers hijack the McGuffins of said oldwalkers
>With great effort and risk they manage to "destroy" the two titans
>Which accomplishes roughly the same thing as cutting off the foot of a prisoner in ball-and-chain
>Eldrazi are now free of the plane, pissed off and wise to the only (known) magic capable of binding them.

Good job breaking it, heroes.

>>44584383
But Jace said he could pull them entirely in the plane !!11! So he did because he da best!! and chandra went pewpew and burnt them to crisps haha just like Jaya did haha and fuck you Sorin and Ugin you useless pussy fucks hahaha I bet y'all nigga don't even smoke eldrazi ha ha SarkhanxTezzeret <3

>>44584383
The Blind Eternities can't be killed; that was the point Ugin had made to Jace. Killing a few Titans on one plane means they'll just pop up again somewhere else, probably stronger than before considering the length of time they were trapped on Zendikar.

>>44583606
has there been another instant speed fireball effect. also jesus what does it take to make you people happy. flavor aside this card is amazing

>>44584355
Speaking of Nahiri, looks like she won't be making an appearance after all.

>>44584428
why would they get stronger from being trapped? If anything, getting a hand cut off should weaken them

>>44584355
Ugin just got his past reforged and was about to stop one of the biggest menaces of the multiverse. Then Jace happened.

>>44584428

Yep, I'm just afraid wizards will ignore that because muh Jace. At least Emrakul will get to fuck shit up either way.

>>44584400
One can hope. I got a good chuckle out of Gideon's development.

>>44584442

>amazing

It's literal unplayable trash.

>>44584448
Because now they're free to eat whatever the fuck they want and the planerangers have zero ways of tracking them.

>>44584444
Nahiri is one of the best characters in this shit and she won't even be in a card. Fuck this shit.

>>44584467
words mean things, anon. Not being trapped does not make you stronger, it just means you can now use your strength, and neither does not being tracked.
They can do more things now, but that does not mean they are stronger

>>44584448
I don't think you understand. The Eldrazi is just the Blind Eternities cycling mana back into itself. Ugin trapped the old titans on Zendikar as a means to control this process, but removing them from the plane entirely is going to cause a much stronger reaction from the source.

>>44584480
It's for the best. She would have to be unplayable garbage to fit in with the set.

Are we going to have an Ugin's oath?

>for the sake of our asses, I will clean up these kids' mess

>>44584499
Are you sure the Eldrazi are the Blind Eternities themselves? I thought they're just beings that exist in the Blind Eternities

>>44583606
>>44583622

look, we need an explanation on why they were suddenly able to do this.

a power-up of some kind? something?

>>44584516
Ugin is Zordon and about as useful.

>>44584517
he missed "IN" in his sentence.

and maybe this spell pulled them fully into Zendikar, making them "mortal".

>>44584535
So, Sorin is alpha?

>>44584558
>and maybe this spell pulled them fully into Zendikar, making them "mortal".
I will so call bullshit if they do that

>>44584526
Obviously they found Ugin's personal porn stash. And they really don't want to share it with the Eldrazi

>>44584568
Nope, Sarkhan is Alpha. Sorin is the Black Ranger who appears out of nowhere to save all thier asses.

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So does black get fucked out of an oath?

Or is this all a cheeky reference to Obby's Black Oath?

Will we just get the black oath in SoI where Liliana is boning zombies, because black is selfish?

>>44584569
I'm working on my head-canon at this point anyways, taking anything wizards spews out seriously just doesn't work anymore.

>>44583446
I remember seeing this in the custom card threads. I think it was called Dimensional Anchor.

Maybe Drana gets an Oath card. She isn't a Planeswalker, but she did fight to liberate Sea Gate.

>>44584616
Oath of Ob Nilixis
>"I'll get you next time rangers! Neeeext Tiiiiiime!"

>>44584649
Nah, it's a superfriends-only oath
maybe Drana becomes a walker? Wouldn't that be neat?

>>44584657
I'm pretty sure he's already gotten them as good as he can. I love how effortlessly he just shitstomped 3 of the walkers, though Chandra's probably showing up tomorrow to singe him a bit and drive him off.

>>44584663
Well, she's kinda glimpsed to blind eternities when she drank an Eldrazi's blood, but if she were going to spark I feel like she'd have done it then.

>>44584616
Black wants no part of this super friends bullshit. Ob is too busy laying plans to drown the rest in three inches of muddy water.

>>44584679
she almost assuradly cannot spark because she's an evolved Eldrazi.

other vampires could, because they were born mortal, but she is not, and sparks are their on birth.

>>44583446
Oddly enough this card cares about whether or not you own Hedron Alignment, not whether or nor you control it.
Not that I can think of a way to control a trigger without controlling it's source.

>>44583740
With Flip Jace and a bunch of delve draw spells, it shouldn't be that hard fulfilling the winning condition.

The card could make a decent tier-2 deck in Standard, for few months at least.

>>44584697
Wait wait what?

Vampires are evolved Eldrazi?

>>44584679
>>44584697
Not to mention we already have our two walkers for the set revealed.

>>44583622

It's official, Green is the STRONGEST color in Magic.

>>44584762
The brood masters are, i.e. all the very oldest vampires. The younger ones are regular vampires.

>>44584762
Devoid Enchantment that makes all vampires eldrazi when?

>>44584794
You funny guy anon.

>>44584762
read >>44580575
Why do you think some vampires like Kalitas don't get instantly turned into dust by Eldrazitouch?

>>44584762
only the "OG" Zendikar Vampires are.

they evolved from Eldrazi Spawn/Sires.

all the other vampires are just people turned into vampires by OG Vamps, this is why on Zendikar, only OG vamps can make new ones.

they were Ulamog's brood, to be precise, hence the shoulders.

>>44584762
In an UR where Drana confronts an Eldrazi is pretty heavily hinted that the first vampires on Zendikar are Eldrazi spawns that obtained self-consciousness. Also explains why Nahiri was shocked to find vampires on Zendikar after she wake up, and maybe the funny Eldrazi in BFZ that contemplates the water

>>44577070
it is a good combo counter spell in commander.

>>44585003
I'm gonna miss Drana.

THAT is how you do "heroic" Black, still selfish, but with an underlining desire to protect what's hers.

>>44585036
shame we didn't get to see much of her now that the superfriends are together

>>44580170
I'm really sick of you people. Every FUCKING spoiler season, you come to spoiler threads to shitpost about the powerlevel, the parasitic, etc etc. It adds nothing to the conversation. Please fuck off, Wizards are experts at what they do and so far every set has been outselling the previous ones and improving. You have no criteria to criticize any card without having played it, because when it ends up being a eternal staple you are going to eat your FUCKING words. It has happened before (Treasure Cruise).
So think before you shitpost about how the spoilers are shit because you might embarrass yourself. Fucking pricks.

>>44585036
I liked Maralen and Toshiro better, honestly.

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brace yourself for goyf comparison

>>44585140
That card compares to goyf as a candle compares to Alpha Centauri

>>44585110
These lands are not going to be eternal playable, they're bad.
>>44585140
It's cute, but I like Scute Mob better for this kind of thing, Dragonkin summoner too even if it's red.

>>44580587
Into the Meren devour edh you go.
>>44580549
That's really good for voltron boros edh. Those colors need a commander closer to this than Jor.

>>44585140
Dayum, that's no goyf but I can see him in modern.

>>44585168

You should get some glasses

>>44584400
>Eldrazi on other planes
Kill me now

>>44585140
I like it. A 2/3 ally with vigilance for 2 is not bad, and the ability will help late-game

should be an uncommon though, IMO

>>44585168
In what fucking deck? Scapeshift?

>>44585140

>>44584794, you may be right.

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Chandra's Oath for those who haven't seen it yet

terrible flavor text

>>44585178
"Modern" doesn't necessarily means "tier 1 deck that makes it into every top 8", despite what everyone believes. This is a good choice for a well performing ramp deck, even if it's not a tier 1 or 1.5

>>44585280
>>44583571
Way ahead of you bro.

>>44585308
Didn't see the post, my bad

>>44583516
The etb effect is literally paradigm shift which was considered to be a combo card which never quite made it (it was occasionally used to make turbo-svi take less time to go off since it took forever)
The interaction in standard is that you can slightly improve your deck so long as you delve well, likely a sleeper card in modern (in the sense that it feels like it has potential but won't slot into any existing decks for a very long time.)

>>44585280
They gonna print anything for people who don't like Eldrazi, planeswalkers, or ally?
This just isn't my set.
>>44585140
Wow, that's great for 2 mana.

>>44585456
It is like asking for non-horror stuff in Innistrad, or monocolor support in Alara.

>>44585456

That's okay, goyim. Remember, you can still buy Oath of the Gatewatch™ to play the Expeditions lottery!

>>44585514
Ancient Tomb is like the only card there that's worth playing the lottery for though.

>>44584643
They might be flat out stealing from /cct/, someone made the entire surge mechanic in /cct/ and the new common land which is a worse version of tendo ice bridge was also made earlier, though that isn't too hard to come up with.

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>>44585140
>goyf comparison

>>44585514
I actually bought a BfZ pack on a whim and pulled a Marsh Flats. First pack I ever bought, was stoked.

>>44585140
This'll go great in my Ezrui EDH deck!

>>44585550
I had one of my cards printed as well. Only difference was the name and that mine costed 1BB and WotC's was 2B.

/cct/ told me it was too good to print at 1BB and needed to cost at least 4 mana.

>>44585639
Yeah, a combo deck sure wants a do nothing piece of shit like this fuck.

>>44585280
>i don't read the thread
>i don't know how to ctrl+f

>>44585548
Wasteland?

I'm not advocating the lottery, but there's two cards of value.

>>44585677
Right, forgot Wasteland got the lottery treatment too.
>why reprint it when we can make people piss money away for it

>>44585548
I'm sure that the filter land expeditions will be worth at least $80 each.

>>44585651
What was the card?

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>>44585710

>>44583285
This + Laboratory Maniac + Tormod's Crypt/Relic of Progenitus/Bojuka Bog/Rest in Peace + anything that would draw you a card = You win.

>>44585677
Wasteland
Ancient Tomb
Horizon Canopy
Eye of Ugin

>>44585773
To be fair that would probably cost 4 if it was printed into standard.

>>44585673
Considering you didn't see the post where I apologized you can't read either, dumbass.

>>44585819
I didn't make cards with Standard in mind. I leave that to WotC.

>>44585854
Fine, but people on /cct/ assume you're balancing for standard powerlevel unless stated otherwise.

>>44583606
>>44583622
I miss when planeswalkers were a bunch of bickering assholes who could barely tolerate being on the same plane as each other not a Magic Super Hero team.

>>44585892
well, they used to be like gods, such powerful beings would rarely wish to cooperate
then again, Team Urza vs Phyrexia

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>>44585892
That was in game justification of a planeswalker duel.
>we all hate each other
>let's fight you motherfucker

And that's how irl you took your deck out.

>>44585854
That's kind of a dumb assumption, considering Standard fluctuates the most in powerlevel over time.

>>44584616
I want Liliana to get an Oath in SOI where she pledges allegiance to herself and promises to do whatever she wants and to hell with anyone else.

>>44585971
she already has the oath of trying to get rid of the veil safely without demons crushing her pussy into submission

>>44585924
Team Urza ended up half dead because they couldn't cooperate and didn't trust each other and Urza anticipated betrayal as part of his plan to morally justify draining another planeswalker's soul to make a bomb. The Nine Titans were the grand epitome of planeswalkers not being able to cooperate.

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>>44585971
>>44586000

I would love a Lili Oath.
I want her in the the Gatwatch, mostly so she and Jace can have hilarious sexual tension moments

She needed Jace's help last time they saw each other so its not a stretch that Jace would bargain her membership for his help..

>>44585110

Go to sleep, Nagle. You're drunk.

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>>44580392
I'll just leave this here

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>>44586038
>lili/ob oath

>>44586045
Explain?

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>>44586066
>>44586038

>"Fine, if it'll shut you up, I'll keep watch."

>>44586090
she could commit some cooperation if the not avengers agree to help her put down some of her demonic overlords not questions asked

>>44580567
Wizards really likes wizards

>>44585110
>embarrassed
>on an anonymous image board

The set is shit and nothing (nothing) will see eternal play. Screen cap this.

>>44583348
My inner vorthos suffers whenever I see a black Shaman

>>44586276
What should it be?

>>44584403
kek

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>>44585110
I can't tell if sarcarsm or not.

>>44586150
>nothing (nothing)

you really are a downer

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>>44585110

>>44586513
so you need seven mana or a turn of setup with Laboratory Maniac in play. Sounds very slow.

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>>44583285
>have Maniac in play
>use Tormod's Crypt to wipe your graveyard
>play Inverter of Truth
>play Gitaxian Probe to draw a card
>you win

Crypt and Probe can be swapped for two Nihil Spellbombs or Relic of Progenitus.

>>44584355
Wait. Isn't she dead?

>>44586513
>3+ card combos

>bounce your maniac in response to the probe

>>44586605
She's sleeping inside a Hedron... Or inside the moon in Innistrad.

>>44586276
Shamans can be black, it's blue and white that they're supposed to stay out of.

>>44586085
"it already produces colorless mana" =/= "it can already cast artifact spells" because of bitches like master transmuter

>>44586715
>>44586605
>Nahiri comes back in SOI
>WB
Return to Theros happens
>Elspeth returns as WB
I like Ajani and Gideon but losing monocolored walkers irks me sometimes. Ajani ain't even monocolored half the time too.

>>44584480
Nahiri's a good character BECAUSE she hasn't show up and therefore Wizards hasn't had the chance to ruin her character just like they do with every other character.

>>44584355
Nahiri made the hedrons to Ugin's specification, who for some reason has a stake in maintaining the existence of the Eldrazi. Perhaps he lied all along and this is a method of genuinely destroying them permanently.

>>44585237
>should be an uncommon though
You've just described every rare in the block.

>>44585110
>Every set has been outselling the one before it
>What are Born of the Gods and Journey into Nyx

>>44586778
After she went to find Sorin, she was pretty massively WR rather than WB.

>>44586150
Ponder is green now so maybe they'll play it in modern

>>44587078
WR would be pretty good for an artifact/equipment walker.

There's just a bunch of theories about Nahiri being pissed at Sorin because he turned her or something because she was mortal and Ugin and Sorin would need her in the future.

I guess there have been red vampires though.

>>44587198
I still like the Nahiri is Avacyn theory.

>>44587232

the one that doesn't make any fucking sense?

>>44586559
>bolt maniac in response to the probe
>you now lose the game

>>44586800
Fucking Elspeth. They killed her out of fucking nowhere.
"Go kill that other god. Oh shit, you actually did it, I better kill you so you won't kill me, even though you were loyal enough to kill the other god cause I asked for it."

>>44586960
Maybe he was planning on throwing Bolas in with them?
Which would also explain why Nicky B let them out.

>>44587415
>*teleports behind you and slits your throat*
>tch, nothin personel kid

that's what you both sound like. Fucking stop it.

>>44584023
>Why does Wizards hate Chandra so much?
>Anything involving her that is printed is always shit.

The new six-mana Chandra from Gaywatch is strong as fuck.

Like, it reads as if R&D finally decided to make a good Chandra no matter what it takes.

>>44587415
>dies to removal, 0/10

>>44583571
I wish Kiora's Dismissal were legal right now.

>>44587518

I'm sorry taking about the game as it's played triggers you, anon.

>>44587576

It's a fact that all Maniac combos are extremely fragile because they can be stopped with literally any instant-speed removal card, when stopped result in the combo player instantly losing, and it turns out a lot of decks do in fact run instant-speed removal.

>>44587562
It's a strong Chandra that costs 4RR. It's as though they're designing red as the second-best control color.

>>44583703
If you get it with flicker, it could be good

>>44587665

I guess they want there to be red decks that plan to win at turn 25 instead of turn 5.

>>44587617
Maybe one day Wizards will give blue a way to deal with instant speed removal spells.