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>>44561082
First for segregating those AoS fags and their faggot game away from us again

>>44561108
ignore guys like this one, please.

I'm in favour of this.

>>44561132
I don't care one way or the other but I gotta say that you don't see 30K and 40K threads being joined in one mega thread.

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2015 was one hell of a rollercoaster for Fantasy games, with the End Times finishing, WFB dying, AoS being released, some refugees jumping ship to KoW and the 9th Age emerging.

What do you predict for 2016?

>>44561154
don't visit them, but I suppose neither survives on shitposting alone, hmm?

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Sounds good. Have the WHFB players seen the plastic slayers that are coming out? If so, what do you think of them? Loadsa pics here: http://war-of-sigmar.herokuapp.com/bloggings/400

>>44561174
>9th Age getting official models, they already announced that
>AoS releasing a whole lot of models, some of which will fit with WHFB pretty well
>GW making more of older models cheaper with that Start Collecting trend.
>9th Age finally making rules for some of AoS stuff
>Specialist Games dropping on top of that

As a model-fag, I'm overhyped.

>>44561174
Battletomes (too many)
Price rises
A few good minis
2017 will hail AOSv2

>>44561181
I don't like fat naked men, but the weapons look badass. I'll be hitting bitz-sellers soon, for sure. Need those awesome dwarfish weapons [SPOILER]for my Skaven[/SPOILER]

>>44561174

I'm predicting huge things with Bloodbowl and Mordheim being supported by the new Specialist division.

>>44561213
>As a model-fag, I'm overhyped.

It's a great time to be alive.

>>44561181
I have literally been waiting years for something like this. So fucking happy.

>>44561229
Weapons look good, yeah I like them and the paintjobs. They are fat bastards though aren't they?

>>44561174
AoS continues to try and pump out old Warhammer models with 40k overdesign splashed on top, and the game slowly dies.

Not even joking, I think the writing will be on the wall by the end of the year for AoS, unless they seriously revamp the rules and get the tournament crowd back in the fold.

>warhammer united
Anon! Do you remember me? Our desire for understanding and peace may become reality after all.

>>44561243
and naked.

I mean, naked manly chests are not that bad, but these guys are naked in the wrong parts.

What does WHFB/AoS General think about a 'Journey to the Center of the Earth' style campaign for WFRP? A group of adventurers hunting for the Malus at the core of the world?

>>44561174
>What do you predict for 2016?

Continued shrinkage of the community as WHFB lacks active support. Older players increasingly fragment between 8th because it was most recent, earlier versions because they're considered better in various ways, and homebrew. Newer players are put off by AoS being unworkable for pickup games and other systems requiring very uncasual commitment to get going, at least here in the UK where only GW stores have table space.

>>44561181
>JESUS PUT ON SOME PANTS
>FUCK

>>44561275
could be fun. you may even make it a race against Skaven who want Malus for some nefarious ends (either to use it to make super-tech, or to corrupt the core of the world)

>>44561082


If GW had half the sense of /tg/ they would do the same for WHFB and AoS, thus saving them both

>>44561291
>make it a race against Skaven

Fuck, I didn't even consider that. Genius idea, I love it.

>>44561154
40k has enough posters and material to even have single factions generals when the time of releases come around and even their generals have a cohesive group of posters staying in both.

The AoS and WFB generals often talked about similar things and were negating support one another.

All hail the union! may differences represent expansion rather than division.

>>44561257
Looking at the increasing (or should I say escalating) mess that is the 40k ruleset, GW trying to tournament-ify the AoS ruleset is the last thing I want.

>>44561257
doubt that. even GW have the brains to see that 9th Age and KoW have wrenched tournament scene from them completely.

>>44561327

AoS seems to include an awkward attempt at a fuck you to tournament players by being entirely unbalancable... Except tournaments can pretty easily arrange house rules, so it ended up being more of a fuck you to people who mainly do pick up games and thus can't deviate from the back-of-a-napkin core rules.

>>44561322
>All hail the union! may differences represent expansion rather than division.

Amen, brother!

>>44561257

I'm not sure about it dying, and personally I as a Timmy like the game as is, but I remember what it was like being a Timmy in previous editions and feeling like the game didn't really support my play style. Therefore I don't like seeing the same thing now happening to the Johnnies and Spikes. They make up a significant portion of the community and deserve a game they can enjoy as well. I hope AOS ends up with even a basic working balance system so we can all stop arguing about it and play together.

>>44561275
I like it! The underworld has plenty of potential from long forgotten civilizations of deep ones, raiding parties of dark elves, skaven and dwarfs diggers, greenskins hordes and lizardmen parties led by troglodons; there be monsters, there be lost ruins, there be even the great maw gnawing from one end of the world to another, or the worldroots of the oak of ages.

You only need to better define how valuable is mallus and the metals around it for the various parts.

Hell you could even use the opportunity to have a cross setting thing, with stormcast protecting the core of the world like shadows of the future projected back in time should you want to put AoS in this.

>>44561365
>this guy again who fundamentally misunderstands the timmy-johnny-spike distinction

you are not a timmy, you are a dummy

>>44561365
Remind me, what's Johnny? If I recall correctly Timmy is fluff-at-all-costs/takes the models he thinks are cool, and Spike is win-at-all-costs/buys the latest netlist, but I can't remember the third one.

>>44561346
Yeah, but letting tournaments go without a fight seems entirely counter-productive. AoS is supposed to be a game for people to play, not just a source of minis for modelers, but (in my area) they haven't stepped up at all to actually get people playing the game publicly, having fun, and enticing kids to spend a few hundred dollars on making their own armies.

>>44561407
>You only need to better define how valuable is mallus

So far the working assumption is that Mallus/Sigmarite = Gromril. Gives it a nice counterpart and something to work with.

>want to put AoS in this.

So far I'm working on an overarching campaign that will take them through the Endhammer alternative setting, but opens up into a campaign into the Realms of Chaos where they will have the opportunity to choose between Classic Warhammer, Storm of Chaos, Endhammer or AoS and essentially change the course of time.

>>44561450
tournaments in classic sense are no way to go for AoS

in GW's place I'd pitch for story-driven campaigns. something massive, flashy, possibly integrated with vidya or social media.

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I feel like the biggest thing about WHFB that drove away new people was the game size, and the cost that stemmed from that. Having to buy, build and paint hundreds of identical minis will scare away a lot of 40k players, let alone people who are new to the hobby.

I've been told by some that older editions had a much smaller scale, but I wasn't into Warhammer at all back then, so I can't confirm.

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Really upset that people don't post up the Vermintide general anymore, now I have to go to reddit or the official forums to discuss the game

Mark my words, the second edition of AoS will have a points system.

Why roll20.net doesn't support 2ED character sheet?
Why so little actions in combat?
Why is it so boring?

>>44561485
WHFB/9th Age needs to make some rules accomodating free-er model placement on the tray. KoW gets a lot of credit by allowing its players go wild with unit fillers and model placements.
I understand that it is tricky when you actually get to remove models, but some unit fillers being ENCOURAGED would be nice. And allow for a bigger % of filler. Like 1/3rd of the unit can be a filler, or even 1/2 if it's made up of multiple fillers.

>>44561502
Assuming it survives to the next edition.

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9th Age question

Would it be worth it on Thicket Beasts (aka Tree Kin) though? 10pts per model seems a bit steep.

(I guess this is totally worth it on Dryads
(WS4 S5 T4 I5 A2 Core for 15pts? sure makes my dick hard))

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>>44561181
>Fire Dwarfs

I happen to remember that GW once supported some other fire dwarfs...

Dawi Zharr = "Dwarfs of Fire"

>>44561624

I'm glad someone else finally made this connection.

>>44561181
Are they fighting to decide which side has the right to not wear clothes or something?

>>44561154

40k and HH are completely different games and usually have their own generals, however you did have people from the latter posting in the former when there wasn't a thread for whatever reason.

That both can have threads show there is enough interest to keep them both separate and alive, though I think the HH threads are slower.

>>44561234

They've said absolutely nothing about supporting Mordheim, haven't even so much as hinted at it. In fact they seem to be entirely focused on getting Bloodbowl out the door at the moment, maybe the Deathwatch versus Genestealer Cult boardgame if they're working on it and not the GW Design Studio.

>>44561257
>>44561346

Where is the evidence that tournament players even make up a sizable number?

For how important they're being purported to be, recent Fantasy threads on /tg/ focused on the game fell off of /tg/ with under 50 posts while KoW hasn't had generals in at least a month and had to open up to other Mantic games to keep the thread afloat.

>>44561485

The number of models is honestly what did it for me. Just because I like some models in a faction or an aesthetic doesn't mean I have the desire to buy and model a bunch of others. This is particularly true in the case of Tomb Kings whose core models were pretty bad.

>>44561554

Eh, I remember seeing stuff where it's obvious Mantic is even trying to promote people buying a bunch of models because they know it's what will keep them a float. Shit like if you're unit is 40 models big then you should at least have 20 models represented.

>>44561624

Chaos Dwarfs and rules for them are still available from FW.

>>44561692

The designers just watched Braveheart and thought the idea of flashing your enemy your junk was a great idea and ran with it.

>FEAR THE FIRE-CROTCH.

>>44561699
>Eh, I remember seeing stuff where it's obvious Mantic is even trying to promote people buying a bunch of models because they know it's what will keep them a float. Shit like if you're unit is 40 models big then you should at least have 20 models represented.

but 9th Age don't sell models. they can make nice rules without hitting their own vallet

>>44561699

god damn it if the price of the unified general is enduring the multiquote guy, it is too high for me

>>44561726

Perhaps, but I doubt they're thinking of new players and instead catering to the "muh mass battle, I can't play X because it's not mass battle" group.

>>44561554
I feel like instead of using tons of filler, points increases across the board wouldn't hurt. Make 20 skellingtons cost more, because a full box of skellys shouldn't be 50 points or something stupid like that.

>>44561699
>40k and HH are completely different games and usually have their own generals,

So are WHFB and AoS.

One is a game and the other is a non-game Just kidding.

Do I am the only one who thinks this thread is a ruse to create some massive shitstorm.

>>44561770
THAT is a big hit to "mass battles" vibe.

to be honest, I already see them adding stuff like Bat Swarms to Core, which greatly cuts a number of models needed to feel up Core, and allowing expensive upgrades to Core, like that Dryad buff wood elf anon posted a few replies above.

guess that solves much of the issue.

>>44561770

Could also just make the average game size smaller or throw out the percentage based system except in a few cases, like FW does in HH with regards to LoW.

Implementing 40k's unit caps where the highest is 30 model for some units wouldn't hurt either, apparently it was done in the past for some units.

>>44561699
>They've said absolutely nothing about supporting Mordheim

What? No. That can't be right...wait...no...

My sense of apprehension is rising.

>>44561791
Plz no, I want one decent fantasy esque thread this month.

>>44561802
It can be a mass-ish battle system, but have you seen the size of a 2k game?

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>>44561082
we need to write down the definitive OP more harmoniously

for starters, despite preferring the setting of the old world, I would say the OP picture to be either a commonly chosen symbol like pictures of ghal maraz or directly artworks from the age of sigmar, either because they make out many pretty fast, because we have ways to find them easily in a good resolution but most of all because they easily embody new things like what's the currently releasing miniatures and fluff being an immediate thing to start a thread with.

secondly I think we need to leave less space for the video games and wikis, they give minor visibility to the pastebin resources for both AoS and WFB which I think are the first thing that should be visible after the title and the ironic edition of the thread, for example the AoS one has the quick guides to introduce a newcomer to the age of sigmar and would allow to skip at least some cases of people coming in asking for info and causing a possible shitstorm, or at least it could help toning these cases down by offering quick info to start the discussion with a more direct question.

lastly, the no shitposting rule must always be there I say, accompanied possibly by an intuitive rule on how to discuss and treat opinions; stuff like "this is not the place to discuss the opinion and preference of others, ignore everything regarding it", this applying both to the choice of the setting, the army, and even the take on the fluff discussion, shitposters revel in trying to suffocate homebrews, headcanon or a choice on things for their own hobby or group by trying to cause reactions, this is a place to discuss everything.

it will be difficult, but having seen the true light of many posters, I believe we can do it.

>>44561811

>Forge World have been reorganised to some extent with Andy Hoare now head of the Specialist Games area, the first on the workbench is Blood Bowl. Expect late this year with plastic Human and Orc teams in the box with more teams in either plastic or resin to follow. The plan is FW will design the models with Citadel producing them in plastic. Whether the additional teams happen in plastic or resin (if at all) will probably depend on how well the box set does.

>While they hope to cover all the old games nothing is set in stone and there is no plan currently laid out. So while they may hope to redo Epic (or some kind) in may not happen, or if it does it may be far off and come back in a different way.

They're not saying they won't be doing Mordheim, but they're not saying they're going to do it either. It's all very up in the air.

Since it's FW, I'd place money on them doing projects which are of interest to them.

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>>44561812
I am afraid that is impossible.

Let the APOCALYPSE COMMENCE!

>>44561827
you do understand that by increasing point costs across board you're changing nothing.

okay, 2000pts becomes new 500pts with tiny army
people feel obliged to play 5000pts.

nothing changes.

>>44561584
depends on the enemy you want them to fight, if you want the tree kin to fight heavy infantry or monsters they could do the job, if you have other things for those and simply want them to be an anvil unit against normal infantry I say the effects don't justify the investment

Will AoS get a story update or are we going to get stuck at the prep for the second battle of Allpoints?

The setting is knew and I am already feeling it getting stagnant.

>>44561835
>despite preferring the setting of the old world
>...
>ends up talking about how to change the picture to aos, how the aos quick guide needs more visibility, and how the whfb vidyas should disappear

are you the same retard who played the 'prefers whfb, reluctantly accepting aos in the whfb thread'; 'lol fuck whfb grognards in the aos thread' card? go away

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>>44561856
Don't even try
I know you want the union to succeed, deep down

>>44561931
new*

>>44561851
I've got my fingers crossed. FW seem like pretty cool guys.

>>44561931

I think it's going to go beyond, but they may release some battle tomes first.

>>44561931

The setting is multiple endlessly respawning factions fighting in a malleable chaotic realm after the world has already died. Of course it's stagnant: It doesn't have any stakes to be fought for. Just an eternal pissing match on the corpse of reality.

And they call 40k the grim setting.

>>44561939
No, I'm not.
I'm not talking about AoS needing more visibility than WFB, it's just that the video games link make it a mess and that the news will actually be tied to AoS most of the time, may as well put relevant pics too, the trend in their threads on the general image wasn't bad.

>>44561973

>It doesn't have any stakes to be fought for

Azyr has yet to be breached and there is still resistance in the seven other realms, resistance which has been emboldened by the appearance of the Stormcast.

>>44561999

That's the start of the hopeless status quo anon.

>>44561999
Actually, the coming of the Stormcast is what Archaon was counting on.

The gates of Azyr are finally open allowing Archaon to march in as soon as he gathered his forces.

>>44561407

Anyone got some good ideas for monster to be found in the Dark Beneath the World?

>>44562243
First thing that comes to mind is dragons. Particularly shard dragons. Dwarfs would slap runic collars on the things to control them.

>>44562352
>Shard Dragons

Where can I find information on them?

>>44562393

Monstrous Arcanum

>>44562431
Cheers.

>>44562243
Well, son, let me tell you about the Dark-Under-The-World.

There's things down there that'll haunt your dreams, if you escape to live another day and can get your hands on enough sweet poppy to sleep again.

There was an elf, you see. He told us he needed to get down there, didn't tell us much about why. Said it was rumoured there was something at the core of the world that would make the phrase 'worth its weight in gold' look like a cheap proposition.

But he also warned us that all the things that crawled the surface before the light of the sun shone down so brightly upon it fled down there. Should have listened, but I was as penniless as a leprous whore.

Down there, in the dark and the cold, we saw blind, toothy bats - though it weren't really fair to call these things bats, with how big they grew. Swarms of the things would drop out of the dark, unannounced, and their paralyzing venom would turn a man stiff as a board while they drained him dry.

We got ensnared by the webs of the flourescent sorrow spiders. We really shouldn't, but we were hungry and desperate. Hordes of the things waited for us to be trapped and ate men alive, while they're still tasty, warm and wriggling.

Great tentacled beasts brushed our raft, the craft we lashed together to cross the inky green-black water of the underneath. Hideously writhing limbs would pluck men screaming from the deck, we'd hear a scream, a splash, and it wouldn't bother us again until it was hungry - though if you looked into the misleadingly still water, you'd sometimes see massive eyes peering back.

Unexplained witchlights would dance on the edge of vision. Massive fungi, mushrooms the size of a man would seem to move when you weren't looking at them, and when one of our band got brave enough to poke at one, it let out an almighty screech and sprayed the poor soul with spores that ate him down to the bone like acid, all the while feeding growths the like you've never seen sprouting all over his body.

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>>44561993
>>44561939
>>44561835
here, I compiled an example of what I had in mind, may complete it if it sees approval.

[OP]
WFB & AOS General

Warhammer united general
[insert edition here]

Thread dedicated to warhammer fantasy of all kinds: from the old world to the new realms, from role-playing to tabletop and video games, from official to fan made fluff and crunch.

check the followings before asking
>WFB resources
[insert pastebin and or links for downloadable here]
>AOS resources
[insert pastebin and or links for downloadable here]
>What, When, Where and How
[insert pastebin and or links to wikis and informative pages here]
>Relevant projects
The 9th age [link to forum]; AOS comps [insert pastebin to the various links for comps and versions]; Endhammer [link to 1d4chan]; [insert more fan made projects, creation and comps here]
>Related Vidya
Total War: Warhammer [link to steam or main page]; End Times: Vermintide [link to steam or main page]; Mordheim: City of the Damned [link to steam or main page]; Blood Bowl II [link to steam or main page]; Man'O War: Corsair [link to steam or main page] Return of Reckoning [link to forum]

DISCLAIMER: No shitposting, don't fall for baits, ignore flaming provocations at all cost; this is not the place to affirm your own opinion over the others, to insult choices or to suffocate ideas; if you want to do that, go in another thread.
It is encouraged to repost this disclaimer as answer to the above cases, regulate yourselves from biting the baits, guys.

[link to last thread]
[/OP]

about the OP pic, I remain my case, new images attract the eye well and offer a visual resume of what's coming out, but we have nothing stopping us from just posting ghal maraz or other general artworks.
might even start a small project to put all good available images from rulebooks, armybooks and AoS in a folder visible in the OP, but I don't think I can do it in a reasonably near period of time.

>>44562577
And let's not even talk about the skaven.

Aye, the rat-men of legend exist, son, and they're every bit as cruel and terrible as in the stories your mother used to tell you. But there's things down there that'll make you come to think of a furry snout as a welcome sight.

If they end up being the worst thing you deal with one day, you'll be marked as lucky men. And rat stew is mighty appealin' after days of the hunger gnawing away at yer insides.

Spare a man some brass, though, son? If I can get me hands on enough, I might sleep tonight. I might be able to afford enough powder and bullets to shoot me'self some lunch a'fore it scurries outta' sight.

>>44562243
shard dragons, dread maw, great blight wyrms, bats of all sizes, same for spiders, creatures from lustria and the new world are also known to live in caves, like cold ones, horned ones, troglodons, hydras, or even lots of snakes since sotek's influence has brought them to infest numerous galleries around the world in search of skaven.
but you can put a lot of stuff in there, the place is so big there're oceans, a big deal of sea monsters may lurk there or older more terrible things should you dig too deep.

it's a gold mine for stories in theory.

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>>44561181
Nice Try GW.
Also, poses looks very ugly, like real tots with toyish weapon and fake beard.

>>44561132
Why? It's looks like pretty stupid idea to make one thread for 2 different communities.

>>44563313
Oh, wind your neck in and stop throwing around accusations that people work for GW. As they'd been posted in the AoS general any WHFB players that don't browse that thread wouldn't have seen them, so I thought I'd repost them here in case any dwarf players were interested. That's all.

>>44563381
>so I thought I'd repost them here in case any dwarf players were interested.
>implying someone need borring MMO design

>>44561624

that was my first thought as well. I'd rather see them as Chaos Dwarf slayers/beasts in whfb, they fit that aesthetics way more

>>44561322
>The AoS and WFB generals often talked about similar things and were negating support one another.
kek

>>44563399

Plastic. Multipart. Slayerkit.

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>>44563506
hi!

>>44563506
>Plastic. Multipart. Slayerkit.
Who cares? They are overpriced, they have stupid poses and design, AoW slayers better.

Lore-wise question : what color is the maw lore magic?

Like fire is orange, death is purple/black.

I'm making a kitbashed butcher and would like to make him like he's casting a spell, but I need a color

>>44563575
>maw lore magic
Doesn't exist.

>>44561440
Johnny is the guy who experiments with weird lists trying to discover the Next Big Netlist, or plays the crazy maneuver army that stomps everyone's shit until he makes a single mistake and it falls apart. Either way, he views the game as a puzzle to be solved, and wants to figure the solution out for himself instead of just reading the answer somewhere else.

>>44563550
lovely kit

fucking awful standard

>>44563550

THIS IS A THING?!

WHY DID NO ONE TELL ME THIS WAS A THING?!

MY PENIS CAN ONLY GET SO ERECT.

>>44561440
timmy: big stuff
spike: WAAC
johnny: combo
vorthos: fluff

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>>44561440
https://youtu.be/iemNBE97tl4

>>44563643
>WHY DID NO ONE TELL ME THIS WAS A THING?!
Because it's your first visit to /tg/ after your parents buy you Dark Vengeance v2.0

>>44563606
>spell : the maw
>a huge pit full of teeth appears out of nowhere
>it's not magic

>>44563696
>bought*

Fixed that for you, son.

>>44563701
It's not special lore of magic.

>>44563729
Anon is asking what colour Maw magic comes under, dude.

>>44563729
it's the Lore of the Great Maw

>>44563460

exactly. I'm not even mad because the AoW slayer kit is perfect, I'll just use these for chaos dwarfs

if they fuck up something like new Silver Helms, now that will be an entirely different matter...

>>44563575
what you want it to be, it's not a chromatic lore, I'd say that with fleshy dark tones you can't go wrong though maybe a dark red or purple, you may even model some teeth and jaws to contrast with bone.

>>44563751
>Lore of the Great Maw
Nope.

>>44563756
>new Silver Helms,
Wut?

>>44563781

'Aelfeol Swifthoof Starriders'

>>44563771
yup. A butcher is a wizard.

It's in the rules

>>44563820
>'Aelfeol Swifthoof Starriders'
>I genuinely can't tell if that's the legit name or taking the piss.

>>44563820
>'Aelfeol Swifthoof Starriders'
But dude, Highborne is creature of pure Light, like spirits/elementals why do they need horses?

>>44563826
>It's in the rules
Post page from WD or Battletome please.

>>44563575
I believe it was pinkish red or so, it looks like that in the old army book.

>>44561931
I can't provide a quote, but they said they do plan on doing a progressing story. Notice the Quest for Ghal Maraz book says "Realmgate Wars Book 1". They will be progressing the story through the big campaign books. They know it's too late to do a progressing story with 40k, but its not too late for this brand new setting.

Progressing the story allows for new minis and things to be released and being able to say 'it's new in the fluff' rather than say 'what? space marines have always had centurions!"

>>44563834

I had it the same with the blood forest of bloodvania thing yesterday

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>>44563852

>>44563881
So? It's Ogor they using Lore of Beast, because their race comes from realm of Beast.

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>>44563771
dude what are you doing?

>>44563852
seriously, stop trying to cause shitposting between WFB and AOS.

>>44563897
see
>>44563906

>>44562589
I really like this. I think if we are going for a new united general, in interest of both communities to stay alive on /tg/, we need to do a united OP. Not just paste on AoS stuff after the WHFB stuff.

We all know that WHFB/9th age generals fall off quickly after created, and AoS generals don't survive without the constant shitposting, bringing them together will be a good solution.

>>44563984

As long as WFRP gets a link to a pastebin with all the relevant gear, I'm a happy chappy.

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>>44563897
just stop

>>44563897

Ogres actually seem to live in quite a few Realms.

>>44563906
Can post full page with name of the source of left side, right side is unimportnat anyway.
>>44563984
>, in interest of both communities to stay alive on /tg/, we need to do a united OP.
Actaully we tried already, but surprise it's failed when first AoS pages was leaked.
>We all know that WHFB/9th age generals fall off quickly after created,
So?
>bringing them together will be a good solution.
Nope and you know why.

>>44564064
Their homeworld is realm of Beast.

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Anybody know what set the middle model is from? Found the little guy in my old bitbag
Put some other shit in there for scale

>>44564096
it's p.60 of the 8th edition army book

>>44563984
Actually, with the exception of one autistic shitposter, I think the idea has gone off pretty well. Some decent discussion - interesting ideas being shared.

It's not as focused as the individual generals tend to be, but it's opening all of them up to a greater range of input.


>>44564096
>Shitposter: The Ogreing.

>>44564129
Which means -> >>44563606

>>44564122

Is that from the old Warhammer Quest game?

>>44564143
>>Shitposter: The Ogreing.
> I doesn't want to discuss idea of one general, so I will clame everyone who disagree with me is shitposters

I think in Solace of Rage the Great Maw is a Chaos God, or atleast a entity in the Realm of Chaos.

>>44564151

It didn't, until it was made and included into the setting.

I'd paint Maw magic with the same brush as Skaven magic or Orc magic.

>>44564122
Goblin from Warhammer Quest, I think.

>>44564174
>included into the setting.
Again, post page from Battletome or WD to prove your words.

>>44564159
I think the one on the left was Warhammer Quest. That looks like it might have been from a Giant kit, maybe? Or you might be right. Could have been a later run of WQ.

>>44564167
>>Shitposter: The Ogreing.
>Isn't an onion.

>>44564122

looks like a talisman/warhammer quest model

>>44564151
then if it's not magic, explain me how a butcher can spell a fucking maw under an unit's feet in the middle of a battlefield?

>>44564214
>shitposters! everyone who doesn't like my idea is shitposters!

>>44564224
>explain me how a butcher can spell a fucking maw under an unit's feet in the middle of a battlefield?
From the lore of Beast.

>>44564200

noone can post a page from a 'battletome' anon because NOBODY BUYS THEM

>>44564254
So you cannot prove that lore of Maw exist in setting?

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>>44564200
here, it's in french, because I don't have the english version, but it's written "Sorcellerie", which mean magic/witchcraft

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>>44564200

>>44564254
I have the battletomes. Just ask for a page.

>>44564290
But where is any mentions of your fanfic lore of Maw?

>>44564290

you dont get it, he's a shitposter trying to not acknowledge that this is a unified thread

>>44564309
Gastromancie is the french translated word for Lore of the Great Maw, which one anon already posted in the thread

>>44564318
>is a unified thread
It's AoS thread.
>>44564325
>one anon already posted in the thread
But it's not Battletome and not WD.

>>44564357
it's from the army book of the 8th edition, page 60

official rules

>>44564367
>official rules
Nope.

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>>44564325
Here is the English version, frenchy

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>>44564252
>>44564239
Samefag confirmed.

Additionally, magic.

>>44564200
Here ya' go.

>>44564239
>Shitposter: The Ogreing
>Isn't a parfait.

>>44564096
>it's failed
And now it's been reforged.

The only thing making it difficult are shitposters like you, both communities want to have an active thread to talk about the warhammer setting without dealing with constant shitposters.
You do not seem to want the community on /tg/ to survive and instead are encouraging an extreme take on the discussed setting for the sake of shitposting.
I'm seriously doubting you are even part of one of the 2 threads.

Seriously, stop.

>>44564357
>It's an AoS thread.

Then what is the OP image from then Carnac?

>>44564406
Just ignore him. This is the kind of poster we want to ignore.

>>44564406
It's Carnac.

Just ignore him because his Archaon-posting is going to get fucked over by Fire Dorfs riding their Firelizards with their firerocks.

>>44564416
Carnac? I don't think you know who Carnac is.

>>44564357

>i cant read: the post

pretty sure this is the slav warmachine troll btw

>>44564459
He's the General AoS shitposter who always has his posting rhetoric in absolutes using fucking memes.

Cross posting this from the WFRP general, because it raises an interesting question:

>>44564271
>What is the colour of Orcs?
Green, but why would you a-
>Are the Dwarfs short?
Ah, you're taking the piss are yo-
>Are the Dark Elves tanned Elves?
...

Shit, actually that's a good question. Or at least the crux of an interesting question.

Assuming that the Warhammer World follows a similar relationship to it's nearest star as the Earth does...would people who live closer to the equator have a darker skin tone?

That said, would Dark Elves actually be paler than High Elves?

>>44561181

I am over the fuck-huge models.

I hate them with an intense passion.

>>44564443
Actually, I am Carnac. That anon is not me.

In fact, I am the one who posted this (>>44564395).

I was feeling generous and thought I might change my mind and leak the Fyre dwarf battletome for you guys but your post and the other anons post makes me think different.

>>44564401
>I doesn't want to discuss my stupid idea so I will continue to call you shitposter
>>44564406
>And now it's been reforged.
How? You just placed 2 communities who dislike each other in one thread and make one community second-class. It's like merging 40k and Warmahordes/Battletech?generalname threads.
>, both communities want to have an active thread to talk about the warhammer setting
1) "settings", let's be correct.
2) Because you say it?
>You do not seem to want the community on /tg/ to survive
>survive
Someone declare war in /tg/?

>>44564459
more problably>>44564461

>>44564528
You clearly have nothing to leak right now.

>>44564528
Don't, no-one actually gives a shit.

>>44564534
>Shitposter: The Ogreing
>Doesn't have a donkey.

>>44564571
In about few weeks I might.

I might overcome my dislike for dwarfs. After all, someone must support the Swigmar.

>>44564461
>slav warmachine troll btw
Wut?
>>44564581
>>Shitposter: The Ogreing
>>Doesn't have a donkey.
>I will keep posting same post about shitposters instead of discussion of my idea about one thread

>>44564534
Hold on.

What community is supposed to be second class here?

>>44564534
we're, in fact, trying to change the unreasonable hatred that spawned at the start of AoS now that things are settling.

>and make one community second-class.
how? both are present, both can be discussed, both will have representation in the OP.

>"settings"
the universe is one, the official supported setting is one, but there can be numerous and even divergent settings to discuss.

>>44564609
>Wut?

A reoccuring shitposter, suspected to be slavic on origin and a massive Warmachine fan. It's all there in the name, really.

>>Shitposter: The Ogreing
>Wouldn't bone the shit out of Fiona.

>>44564606
Don't bother. I will be buying the battletome and leaking it the day it is released. You can keep your swigmar gold.

>>44564581
I do.

Don't smear my good name and call everyone who disagrees with you my name. Seriously, that's just pathetic. Nobody in this thread or past thread has supported the Age of Swigmar community like me. I will not have you besmirch my good reputation.

So take your own goddamn advice and ignore whoever you are obsessing with now,

>>44564657
Thanks, anon. You'll spare from from infesting my PC with dwarfen shite.

>>44564664
>Supported the community
>All throughout the Seraphon update was shitposting extreme and then went full ANIMEposting in the Archaon update.

And in the Fyreslayer update, no matter how much it says "Fyreslayer X slaps chaos shit" you'll be whining about chaos.

>>44564581
Shut up you, I care.

>>44564664

What are you even talking about?

Question for the group:

How does Orc/Goblin/Greenskin skintone get affected by sunlight? Do they tan or bleach?

>>44564711
>whfrpg posters meet carnac

boy, this thread will be going to places!

>>44564622
>What community is supposed to be second class here?
WHFB players.
>>44564630
>we're,
Who?
>in fact, trying to change the unreasonable hatred that spawned at the start of AoS now that things are settling.
But you cannot do it without making some part of thread is ssecond class.
>how? both are present, both can be discussed, both will have representation in the OP.
Try to think and try to find answer why do we need 1 thread?
>the universe is one,
Nope, Mortal Realms was isolated it easily could be different universe (and don't forget about "countless millenia" as the timeskip). And let's be honest, it's totally different setting in terms of scale and design.
>, but there can be numerous and even divergent settings to discuss.
Okay, let's unite with MtG, DnD and Pathfinder and other wargames general.

>>44564711
>How does Orc/Goblin/Greenskin skintone get affected by sunlight? Do they tan or bleach?
If they are like plants even for these circumstances I assume they might get of a darker tone and hardening their skin.

>>44564700
The Fyeslayer will be working for Chaos as much as they work for Order. Remember that they only follow the Ur-Gold. Archaon has already delivered so much asskickery to last me a lifetime.

And hype posting is not shitposting.

Also remember who gave you the Seraphon BT. After what two or three months of no one stepping up to leak the BT? ME.

I don't like to brag but I guess Orderfags are just cheap and ungrateful.

>>44564754
>>What community is supposed to be second class here?
>WHFB players.

you were the only one acting like this, shitposter, with your 'ogre army book doesnt exist' bullshit

>>44564711

I follow the Stronger = Darker train of thought. Weaker Orcs/goblins probably have a lighter colouration.

>>44564763
You do know the knew fluff is getting Ur-Gold to bring back Grimnar.... who isn't really a Chaos friendly god.

So they are literally playing chaos for chumps then.

>>44564711
>How does Orc/Goblin/Greenskin skintone get affected by sunlight? Do they tan or bleach?

Dude, I want you to examine Night Goblins skin tone. These guys almost never get any sunlight.

There you will get you answer.

>>44564754

I get it, you do not like this thread. Got a good news for you: you can just get the fuck out :^)

>>44564771
>you were the only one acting like this
>not OP
Irony.
>, with your 'ogre army book doesnt exist' bullshit
But it's one universe, where ogres doesn't exist.

>>44564754
go do it and see how it goes, we, about 30 guys, judging from the counter, are doing the same here. now, go away unless you have something related to the premise of the thread to talk about.

>>44564772
>Tons of Orcs and Goblins in sunbeds to get darker and therefor strong.

Yeah, Galo Sengen.

>>44564779
>You do know the knew fluff is getting Ur-Gold to bring back Grimnar.... who isn't really a Chaos friendly god.

Source?

>>44564763
Yes you do. It's sickening actually. You actively and purposefully start infuriating arguments and when enough disagree with you and want to send you on your way, you come in with "Well I was going to share this PDF, but I guess not now"

No you fucking weren't. You thrive off of the bullshit drama and a certain few weak anons to come crawling back like you are paying us to troll us. Just fuck off. Seriosuly, fuck off. I can get things elsewhere, always have, and I can even get things in my own due time.

>>44564796
>we, about 30 guys, judging from the counter, are doing the same here. now,
Yeah like "if you disagree with 30 guys you should shut up because we think that AoS thread need more shitposting".

>>44561835
good ideas. this OP was by no means meant to be finite, it was just mashed together in a sec.

>>44562589
really nice, although I'd give a bit more spotlight to 9th Edition, seeing as it's old WHFB's main edition now. I'd say, put it above wikis, but below AoS.


AS FOR PICTURE
I suggest making something like a picture frame, with WHFB, AoS and 9th Age symbols on it and stark green in the middle, drop into a pastebin and keep a link in the OP always.

this way anyone making an OP can apply this frame to any artwork he chooses, so there're always symbols of all the main systems present on the image and everyone's content

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>>44564199
>>44564159
>>44564222
Never heard of that game, and the colored snottling swarm or snottling wagon.
I have previously owned most goblin sets so I though it was an extra from one of those

>>44564795

well, if aos players are like this I guess just make an AoS thread, I bet you will feel happy with a 80%+ shitposting ratio

Orcs slowly get bigger and darker the stronger they get. What's their extreme/endgame? Is there a limit to how strong/big an Orc can get?

Who was the biggest Orc of them all?

>>44564795
>where ogres doesn't exist.

What...what game do you think you're discussing here?

>>44564797
I had to google that, and I don't regret it for a moment.

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>>44564819
No, I won't leave because Swigmar needs me.

Look at him. Look at his swiggy beard. I must support him. I must!

>you come in with "Well I was going to share this PDF, but I guess not now"

No, I never do that over fluff arguments. I might do that if my support for Swigmar is questioned. THIS IS WHERE I DRAW THE LINE.

MY SUPPORT FOR SWIGMAR WILL NOT BE QUESTIONED!

>>44564849
>80%+
It's better than 95%+. Or it's sort of plan to consume other general so none can make another 9th Age thread?

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OP here, going well guys, don't mind the shitposters, they are just panicking 'cos we set aside old grievances and came together at last. they'll get bored and go away in some time... hopefully.

>>44564885
>what game do you think you're discussing here?
AoS.

>>44564896
>they'll get bored and go away in some time... hopefully.
You do realise where we are... right?

>>44564885
>What...what game do you think you're discussing here?

his game is shitposting

>>44564844

You'd enjoy it. If you ever get the chance to grab a cheapish copy of the original version, it'll be worth it.

It could just be an extra, but it's the way the legs are based together that kinda throws me off.

>>44564885
>Who was the biggest Orc of them all?
well, with the AoS's multiverse it can be assumed that Gorkamork (or is it Morkagork?) was once an orc, who got bigger and bigger and bigger and bigger, until he became a god.

other than that? Gorbad Ironclaw, methinks. most badass orc out there.

>>44564896
>together
> Well WHFB players it's our thread now, if didn't like AoS you should shut up.
Also, it will be just uncomfortable for them to post under majority of AoS discussion (since their game is dead and there is nothing to discuss).

>>44564885
>Who was the biggest Orc of them all?

Grimgor

>Orcs slowly get bigger and darker the stronger they get. What's their extreme/endgame? Is there a limit to how strong/big an Orc can get?

Old age seem to affect Greenskins in fantasy.

Skarsnik for example was growing weak with age. Greenskins might have lifespan but most won't reach it.

>>44564947
Gorkamorka are not Orcs. They are the Orcish Gods from fantasy fused as one and then separated once agin.

>>44564947
>Gorkamork (or is it Morkagork?

What happened there? Is he still brutally cunning? Or is he cunningly brutal now?

>>44564967
>Skarsnik for example was growing weak with age

Do you think that was because of age or because he started losing fights? Just food for thought, I'm not too familiar with the character.

What would the lifespan be for an orc then? Human equivalent?

>>44564885
>Who was the biggest Orc of them all?
Since Khorne daemonkin confirmed multiverse then Ullanor Beast I think.

>>44564934
>Goblin from Warhammer Quest
You are probably right, thanks for the help.

>>44564932
yeah-yeah, but a man can still dream, right?

>>44564952
look, trolling is an art, and right now you are just sticking holes in a paper with your crayon, because you can't figure out how to draw.

>>44564992
yeah, but they could've started as an orc some time ago. like sigmar, who was a human once. seems a cool idea, to me at least. an orc who got so big and badass he became a god.

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>Warhammer Fantasy General UNITED
>"Let's get over it" edition.

I've come to terms with AoS taking Fantasy's place, but come on, at this point they're simply different settings, and the differences are going to get bigger as time passes. Discussion would either have misunderstanding from people entering arguments with the wrong setting in mind, or one setting's discussion would be buried on the wake of the other (WHB being the one buried of course) and their fans would go back to make their own threads again.

With the recent activity of WFRP threads I don't see why Oldhammer/Bloodbowl/Mordheim/etc fans can't jump into that, while the vigorous and still GW supported AoS can easily stand on its own.

Not trying to shit on any of you, just saying my piece. I'm gonna go back to the WFRP thread and won't bother you anymore. Peace.

>>44564992
>They are the Orcish Gods from fantasy fused as one and then separated once agin.

So the god of an Orc isn't itself an Orc?

Is Sigmar still human?

Or better yet - was Ulric ever human?

>>44565021
>Do you think that was because of age or because he started losing fights?

No, Skarsnik was at the top of his game as the Warlord of the Eight Peaks. He was just growing old naturally.

>What would the lifespan be for an orc then? Human equivalent?


Unknown. Orcs don't live long enough to die of natural causes.

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Lore of the Great Maw is purple/blue-ish

>>44565042
>look, trolling is an art, and right now you are just sticking holes in a paper with your crayon, because you can't figure out how to draw.
> YOU ARE TROLL!
Nice, anything new?

>>44564967
>Skarsnik

The Goblin?

Are Orcs and Goblins the same species?

>>44565035
Who?
*google*

Well fuck me.

>The Beast first appeared at the head of an unprecedentedly massive Waaagh! in Segmentum Solar. After destroying the world of Ardamantua and nearly the entire Imperial Fists Chapter with his Battle Moon.[2a]
>Battle Moon

JESUS.

>>44565049
>With the recent activity of WFRP threads I don't see why Oldhammer/Bloodbowl/Mordheim/etc fans can't jump into that, while the vigorous and still GW supported AoS can easily stand on its own.

WFRP tends to be a better home for the Fantasy side of things anyway. I agree with you wholeheartedly.

>>44565063
>No, Skarsnik was at the top of his game as the Warlord of the Eight Peaks. He was just growing old naturally.

How old was he when he started showing signs of wear and tear?

>>44565035
>Since Khorne daemonkin confirmed multiverse then

Where exactly? I am curious.

>>44565091
Yes.

Orcs, Goblins, snotlings, and squigs are all one big mega-species.

>>44565049
Well, at least someone with the same opinion.
>>44565091
>Who?
>*google*
Wut?
>>The Beast first appeared at the head of an unprecedentedly massive Waaagh! in Segmentum Solar. After destroying the world of Ardamantua and nearly the entire Imperial Fists Chapter with his Battle Moon.[2a]
>>Battle Moon
Well looks like we found Ghazkull grandgrandfather.
But I mean guy from Great Crusade.

>>44565042
>look, trolling is an art, and right now you are just sticking holes in a paper with your crayon, because you can't figure out how to draw.

He's not a troll. He's just a cunt.

>>44564896
Sorry, I've been observing this thread and I am going to say this venture was a bust. If anything it gives the AoS-shitposters renwed vigor, because they think they are winning this. Their goal would be to expunge AoS from /tg/, and if we do this combined thread, then all shitposting moves wherever it goes, then the WHFB/9th players who were ok with the joining would get hostile and drive AoS out because they don't want the constant shitposting and mix ups. I'm not saying AoS has no shitposters either. There are a few who would refuse to accept anything but AoS and attempt to derail any discussion not AoS related. Both sides would be playing victim to the arguments.

Then of course the next course would be to separate the threads again, and shitposting would still follow to the AoS general threads of old, and it would be the same story. Many AoS supporters would get tired of the drama and leave /tg/ entirely, causing any AoS discussion to ultimately die, therefor a win for the haters.

I still say our best bet is a dedicated AoS General thread. Sure they move slow and sometimes die, but it is better than this. For a while we actually had a thread or 2 reach 300 posts with minimal hateposts. Sure they took 5 days to get there, but it is definitely better than this alternative. Shitposters dont want you to realize that the AoS General threads could work without them.

So my vote is splitting the threads again. Anyone else feel the same way?

>>44565144
>Where exactly? I am curious.
There were mentions about champion or Daemon Prince or Greater Daemon who sacraficed universes to Khorne.

>>44565144
>Orcs, Goblins, snotlings, and squigs are all one big mega-species.

Are they the same species the same way Caucasians/Asians/ect ect are the same species, or the way Seagulls/Hawks/ect ect are the same species?

Because holy shit is that a lot of morphology for a single species.

How does that even work?

So I've been away from WHFB for a while and have just come back to find this Age of Sigmar shit. Can someone explain what it is/how it's different? Is it good?

>>44565049
first of all, WHFB and AoS share model lines.
even if 9th Age kicks in its miniatures, GW minis will still be a staple.

secondly, AoS adepts mostly still come from WHFB background, so even if they crossed over to AoS, they may still be interested in WHFB-related discussions.

I don't see no reason for us to be sevaral half-dead threads instead of one with varied backgrounds.

>>44565084
seriously, don't believe trolling tutorials out there. any fag worth his salt has seen them and by following them you just further prove you're trolling. have some dignity or something. get better or get out.
trolling ain't something you can do by the book, and you're doing it by the book.

>>44565156
bah, same thing

>>44565157
we shall see. WHRP threads were 90% shitposting, what little I've seen of AoS threads were 90% shitposting, last dying WHFB threads were 90% shitpostng.

not much has changed yet.

>>44565127
>How old was he when he started showing signs of wear and tear?

Check the Orc and Goblin army book details about when he took control over the peaks. In this period he was at his young "man" stage.

Then check the date of End Times Thanqoul events. At this period he was suffering from signs of old age.

This will give you some insights on his age.

>>44565200
>Is it good?
Yep. You don't need to spend shitton of hours and money to make 1k army for start, rules is simple and interesting, models is overpriced for someone, but they have good quality.

>>44565198
Are you knew to warhammer or something?

>>44565157
>Sorry, I've been observing this thread and I am going to say this venture was a bust. If anything it gives the AoS-shitposters renwed vigor

things were pretty civil until that dude started shitposting whfb. actually much better than the last aos thread which was just a grand pool of shitfest

>>44565200

Hey dude, have a read of this:

>https://1d4chan.org/wiki/Warhammer:_Age_of_Sigmar

Has a pretty decent summary for you.

>>44565216
>This will give you some insights on his age.

Jesus thats...that's a fair heft.

I mean, if Orcs and Goblins share that sort of aging mechanism, then greenskins have a really long lifespan.

Again, this is assuming that winning fights doesn't some how lengthen their lives.

It could also be a psychological aspect - winning fits compels greenskins to live longer. Skarsnik might have just been getting tired of winning.

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>>44564122
>>44564159
>>44564199
>>44564222

It's from the old night goblins sprue. Left is WHQ I think.

>>44562589
>>44561082
Age of shitmar can go fuck itself. Donmt force the fucking generals just because /aosg/ isn't strong enough to live without life support.

>>44565157
No, if what's happening in this thread means anything, then it means united threads are fun.

>>44565270

YEP. That left fucker is definitely WHQ. It's great to see they reused the same basic design there. Nice little nostalgia bomb.

Night Goblins sounds about right.

Thanks for solving the mystery, brother.

>>44565202
>first of all, WHFB and AoS share model lines.
So?
>secondly, AoS adepts mostly still come from WHFB background, so even if they crossed over to AoS, they may still be interested in WHFB-related discussions.
1) They can come in WHFB thread and discuss WHFB, but why WHFB and AoS players should delve through the unrelated (with their discussions) posts to find their posts?
>I don't see no reason for us to be sevaral half-dead threads instead of one with varied backgrounds.
Why not? It worked well, why do we need merging threads about two games which totally different in temrs of design, fluff and rules?

>>44565257
God, AoS models are ugly.

>>44565235
new*

>>44565290
>if what's happening in this thread means anything, then it means united threads are fun.
It's the same fun which was WHFB generals during ET.

>>44565300
>why do we need merging threads about two games which totally different in temrs of design, fluff and rules?

Because we choose to.

We currently have a WFRP general and a Warhammer General. There's nothing stopping people from posting the amalgamated general and posting individual generals as well.

You should leave this thread. You don't like it.

>Shitposter: The Ogreing
>Still hasn't gotten ogre it.

>>44565257
>dwarfs now have mounts
>it's some lava salamenders

Welp. I guess 40k players could use the model for the Salamender chapter

What a disaster.

>>44565341
>Because we choose to.
Who?
>We currently have a WFRP general and a Warhammer General. T
Who? Entire warhammer community, GW?
>There's nothing stopping people from posting the amalgamated general and posting individual generals as well.
Yeah, it's just uncomfortably.
Also, again what about idea of merging with all 40k threads, with WIP?

So, what are you guys currently working on?
Some cool conversion? Nifty paintjob? Maybe some fluff for you army? WHRP adventure? Tell us!
Let's get a positive discussion going!

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>yfw they will never make a Gotrek and Felix game based on the novels, where you play as Felix travelling across the Old World with Gotrek trying to find his doom.

>>44565331
I know, right? It's like the good old times.

>>44565341
Are you the same anon who was besmirching my name? Why are you still replaying to the so called shitposter?

Didn't you say to ignore him. When I said you were obsessive, I didn't think it was really the case.

>>44565380
>Who?
Me and the anon you're replying to, at least.
>Who? Entire warhammer community, GW?
The people on /tg/ you fucking retard.
>Yeah, it's just uncomfortably.
Then I am glad you choose to suffer.

>You need to get ogre yourself, Mister.

>>44565341
>Because we choose to.
Except we clearly haven't chosen to. One person chose to make one tread to stir shit, and this thread is more than evidence enough that no one wants their different content sludged in with that of another, vehemetly opposed, general.

>>44565399
>Are you the same anon who was besmirching my name?
>besmirching my name?
>Posts anonymously.

>>44565397
>The entire game is one long escort mission.
>Except you're the one being escorted.
>You have to keep rushing to get into any of the fun fights.
>But when you do, you die in seconds if you're not real close to Gotrek.

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Im completely new to Warhammer, and after just playing 2 rounds of Warhammer FB, and losing both, i had the luck and got a lot of shit for free. long story short: It would be great if you could help me to create two army lists to play with a friend - the shit i've got should be more than enough.

So, here it is:

Dwarfs

-5 Iron Breakers
-5 Hammerers
-2 Canons and a organ gun (all with teams)
-17 musketeers; (2 of them dual wielding guns, 2 wielding a flag, one musician)
-12 clan warriors (2 of them leaders, 1 with a flag, one musician)
-17 longbeards
-8 dwarf miners (one musician, one with a flag)

also a slayer and a king and a master engineer

and also a lot of Highelfs; here things get complicated because i have even less knowledge about them, so i can only describe how the units look like:

-1 balista
-12 siting on a horse, only 2 of them with a sword, one of them looking like a leader.
-13 Highelves with a longsword, one musician, one leader
-25 with a halberd, one leader
-one supreme looking guy with a staff and a glowing sword, some kind of king maybe?
-also one mage looking guy, blowing some horn.
-and one king sitting on a dragons back.

we're all playing just for fun, so proxying some units as others is no problem.

oh, and as far as i know, we're playing the last version before The Age of Sigmar.

help would be much appreciated.

>>44565417
>Me and the anon you're replying to, at least.
>The people on /tg/ you fucking retard.
So it's not /tg/,
>>44565049
>>44565157
>>44565274
right?
>Then I am glad you choose to suffer.
Not only I, everyone who not interested in AoS or WHFB, but for some reasons you want increase shitposting in AoS discussion or remove people who didn't like AoS from WHFB generals.

>>44565439
>Except we clearly haven't chosen to.

There's at least 40 people posting here. If people didn't want to post in a united general...they wouldn't. It's not like anyone has a gun to their head.

If people didn't want to post in a unified general, they would just go back to their individual generals. It's not a question of one or the other - both are still up. Post where you want.

>>44561257
but you know what? I'm glad they named it Age of Sigmar instead of just morphing Warhammer Fantasy INTO what Age of Sigmar is now without making it LITERALLY a new game.

this way we can seperate out the cancer.

>>44565468
It's shit, too many ways for your enemy to have sudden death.

>>44565439
no, people wanted to peacefully post in united thread. then a shitposter like you came and started stirring shit.

there's no shit-stirring without shitposters, mate.

>>44565498
>.they wouldn't.
But how if they cannot make their own WHFB and AoS threads?
>>44565533
>no, people wanted to peacefully post
you =/= all people.

>>44565463
No anon, Felix is a formidable fighter, it wouldn't be a complete escort mission.

Imagine it like the Witcher 3, where you take up "contracts" (oaths) in between the main story missions (the books) as you travel the world.

>>44565533
No, anon. This is not entirely true. This failed. Face it. I'm making an AoS General now. Let's leave the WHFB posters be, if we get shitposting, then we get it. Nothing new for us. This will just be too confusing for both parties. AoS Generals do survive on their own, even without trolls. They move slow but they survive.

>>44565486

I genuinely cannot decipher what you're trying to say.

>>44565468

What sort of army lists are you looking or? You don't have quite enough for a Gun Line, which is a big favourite amongst dwarf players, but you've got a nice little range there anyway. Also - why the 5 Hammerers and 5 Ironbreakers?

>>44564122
I think it's old NG sprue, or at least there's one very similar to it on there.

>>44564836
I don't really think we should give it so much relevance when 9th age is pretty much the same thing as WFB, I continue to think that leaving it together with the comps and other fan-made things is enough, but I suppose eleving the fanmade things and AoS comps above the wikis is good considering their larger use.

>>44565157
Not for me. The issue is mods failing/refusing to deal with shitposting - it is against the rules, (everywhere except /b/,) there's plenty in this thread, but they do nothing. I would actually argue this thread shows a combined thread can work, because there has been pretty much no
>Your game sucks!
>No YOUR game sucks!
in it. The communities can clearly be side by side without poking each other, it's just the trolls riling stuff up with the topics they know get responses.

>>44565587
>I genuinely cannot decipher what you're trying to say.
There are a lot of people who didn't like idea of one thread for some reasons and you saying that they should go away or shut up, because they are not part of Warhammer community on /tg/ and your opinion > their opinion, but surprise they cannot make their own threads since you already create same thread early.

>>44565553
>But how if they cannot make their own WHFB and AoS threads?

Why the fuck wouldn't they be able to make their own threads?

It's not like you need to get a fucking license, dude. If you don't want to post in a unified general, post in a specific one.

>>44565568
>No anon, Felix is a formidable fighter

Depends on where you pick up. He's a pussy in Trollslayer - only just a bit better than average because of his fencing training, but he only survives thanks to Gotrek in those early days.

Then he gets a magic sword that helps cover some of his shittiness.

By Daemonslayer, he's definitely a decent fighter.

By the end of the series he's veteran.

Depends on when.

Age of Sigmar General, please fellow AoS posters go here. This is not the place to discuss our game, let this be a WHFB/9th Age general.

>>44565638
>>44565638

>>44565625
>I continue to think that leaving it together with the comps and other fan-made things is enough
But 9th Age is more than others fan-made things, since it's official ETC rules, unlike AoS.
>>44565652
>Why the fuck wouldn't they be able to make their own threads?
Mods will ban them with "WHFB/AoS thread already existing".

>>44565637
No, I'm saying they should go away or shut up because they can make there own specific general.

There is nothing stopping you from making another thread even if there is a Unified General already made.

>>44565587
>What sort of army lists are you looking or?

i really have no clue. it should be fun and easy for a newbie to understand.

i got all the stuff from another friend who just collected the stuff to paint them, he never seriously played himself or intended to use them as an army. from what i understand that explains the odd numbers.

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>>44565395
Trying to finish off my combined tzeentchian beastmen/daemons army. Even going light on the gors and ungors (20 of each so it still looks vaguely horde-ish) it's been slightly getting me down.

Not gonna post a pic of my own army because I have shaky hands and I know my painting's pretty shit as a result, but pic related is the scheme I'm copying for the beastmen, with the daemons in dark purple/the same shade of light blue (so it all ties together).

>>44565714
>No, I'm saying they should go away or shut up because they can make there own specific general.
And who are you to take names of their threads?

>>44565468
Your hammerer and ironbreaker units are really small. Dwarfs aren't elite like high elfs or ogres, so you're going to want a minimum of 10-20 models in a hammerer/ironbreaker unit or else they'll just crumple before being able to get anything done.

You can't have duplicate command models in a unit, so no "2 flags" or unit leaders in a single unit.

Dwarfs are really defensive, with their melee units serving to mostly tie up enemy units while your big guns blast them to fuck and back. Do everything you can to stop your enemies from getting to your gunline, and make sure you pay close attention to keeping them protected during deployment.

You'll probably wanna drop the slayer for a runesmith, too. Slayers are cool as fuck but kinda suck, and you're really lacking in magical protection if you don't have at least one runesmith to help you dispel enemy magic phases.

>>44565148

>But I mean guy from Great Crusade.

The Ork on Garo was not the same Ork from the Ullanor Crusade.

>>44565371

What's wrong with fire associated Dwarfs having salamander mounts?

These are Fyreslayers, not the same Dwarfs as in Fantasy, those are Steamheads.

>>44565768
Slav

>>44565303
I feel like you haven't looked at WHFB models in a while.

>>44561082
>Dreadfleet

Has anyone played this? Looking for opinions on gameplay and if it's worth it.

>>44565778
>What's wrong with fire associated Dwarfs having salamander mounts?
Because Seraphonalready use them, the whole army of salamander.
>>44565791
>Slav
So?

>Slayers are no longer shamed dwarf clansmen who broke an oath and now seek a glorious death to restore their honour.

Fucking GW don't know when they have something good

>>44565829
Poses really ugly, like Khorne infantry in ET.

>>44565829
its cool, but the mat that comes with it is really, really huge. i've only played it once because it was way too big for my usual warhammer table and we had to play it on the floor. which sucks.

aside from that, the miniatures are really fucking awesome and the game itself is fun with lots of details in the rules for maximum naval simulation.

>>44564887

You know this is actually one of the worst things about Age of Sigmar:

I -like- the character and religion of Sigmar, and this whole bollocks is constantly tarring his name by association.

Fuck you Age of Sigmar fluff. Heck, you're ruining Archaon's credibility as well.

>>44565971

>Heck, you're ruining Archaon's credibility as well.

Hey, I dislike Age of Sigmar as much as the next guy, but if nothing else Archaon ahs done nothing but succeed in there, becoming the menacing presence that he failed to be after getting wrecked by an orc.

>>44565841

Salamanders are much smaller. Not to mention armies I can share things, I mean Giants can be taken in four different armies.

>>44565971

Archaon never had any credibility.

>>44566024
> wrecked by an orc.

You realize that Archaon was cheap shotted after he just beat down Valten and Huss. Valten was at the time supposed reincarnation of Sigmar.

Even back in the days of Storm of Chaos, Archaon was superior to Sigmar.

>>44566024
I still think its funny that GW made it a point to have Archon behead Grimgor in the end times. As if it wasn't already obvious enough that they're still upset about the time that their golden boy had his ass handed to him, they went out of their way to make sure that people saw him take down the character that stood as an insult to their terrible excuse for a villain and horrid campaign running skill.

>>44566242

The creator of Archaon doesn't even work for GW anymore, so I don't know why you'd think anybody there would be upset.

>>44565971
>you're ruining Archaon's credibility as well.

By making him the most competent Chaos warrior in GW's history?

He is so competent that the Chaos Gods are afraid of him and want him killed. I wouldn't feel mistaken If I said that I feel that Archaon is the protagonist of Warhammer and AoS.

>>44566174

Sure but it still destroyed his image in the eyes of the people, making him a joke for years to come until End Times.

>>44565395
converting several Branchwraiths for my Forest Spirit WE army. Got two combat ones almost finished, now working on archer one (for Toxic Pollen aspect from 9th Age) and caster one.

>>44566242
You do realize they were the ones who write the Storm of Chaos to begin with? The authors didn't change much. If they cared about Archaon, they wouldn't even have written the whole incident in Storm of Chaos.

>>44566279

In AoS sure, but in Warhammer he failed miserably as an antagonist due to the result of Chaos player games during Storm of Chaos.

Even if he won in End Times, that period was pretty much the prelude to AoS and is more appropiate to consider it as part of it than Warhammer proper.

>>44566024
>but if nothing else Archaon ahs done nothing but succeed in there,

To an absurd degree, yes.

He's not the chosen mortal general of the armies of chaos now, he's some sort of weird deviant art tier power fantasy thing.

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>Having game of Fantasy on Thurs
>mfw

Since my FLGS closed down in May, I've only played 2 games since then. 2000pts, regular rules and I'm taken my Skaven. Been a long time since I've played 2000pts, had to write up a whole new filthy list.

Absolutely can't wait!

>>44566042
>Salamanders are much smaller.
What?
>I mean Giants can be taken in four different armies.
yep, but theya re just universal unit, while here we see same design traits.
>>44566270
Because GW is large Chaosfan and Grimgor beat Archaon in moment of Chaos triumph.

>>44566279
>He is so competent that the Chaos Gods are afraid of him

Yes see, that's exactly the problem.

That's not credibility, that's masturbation.

>>44566282
Only dudes who haven't read the actually battle. Back then when I didn't even know about Archaon and had no idea why people disliked the guy. Then I read about the battle between him and Valten and Huss. I thought it was Metal and brutal as hell. Archaon getting cheap shotted by Grimgor after an exhausting battle with two of the Empire's champions did not lower him in my eyes.

>>44566312

The thing about Storm of Chaos is that in it, the victor was determined by the players, not GW. That's why they scrapped it.

>>44566350

>What?

Going off the art in the 8th Edition Lizardmen book, Salamanders appear to be around the size of horses.

>>44566359
Not that's not masturbation. That's being successful at your job, Haven't you been so successful at your job that your managers started fearing for their jobs?

No? Then you won't understand Archaon. He is the hardworker in all of us.

>>44566389
GW could have easily written that Archaon just retreated instead of the whole Grimgor thing. In the end of the day, they control what's in the fluff, not the players.

Face it, dude. They give no fuck about Archaon.

>>44566341

The super saturated black/red/white art for him only makes it more hilarious.

>>44566371

The actual quality of the character and fight are irrelevant, it's the hilarious cheap shot that got imprinted in the minds of the masses that does. As powerful and badass as he is, the first thing people remember when his name is mentioned is the cheap shot.

>>44566389

Which is ridiculous, given that it had a much more workable ending than the End Times.

Annoying really, the return of Nagash was well executed, then he got sidelined and the rest of the campaign dissolved into shit as they shredded their setting. Deliberately. To make room for shit.

>>44566406
>Hard work is what gets you promoted
Oh my precious anon. So young and naive.

>>44566452

I wouldn't call throwing your big bad under the bus "workable".

Is AoS the official canon "sequel" to WHFB or is it its own alternate universe?

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>>44566436
>it's the hilarious cheap shot that got imprinted in the minds of the masses that does. As powerful and badass as he is, the first thing people remember when his name is mentioned is the cheap shot.

It's failure of the masses then and not the character.

Now the future masses will always remember him as the man who destroyed the Old World and the man who will destroy Sigmar once and for all.

>>44566508

Canon sequel

>>44566508
Yep, it's the official canon thing.

>>44566508
It's the official canon sequel, just many refuse to believe it's a thing.

>>44566508
>08
It's only a bad dream anon, I'm sure in a year or so Gw will retcon all of it.

>>44566469
You got to be cunning and have connections too. Archaon has those covered.

What I am talking about is not getting promotion , it's getting results and achieving something to be proud of. This takes hardwork.

>>44566488

Beats down two great heroes, one of whom is basically an avatar of Sigmar.

Exhausted and Bloodied, gets punched by the fun faction.

What's the issue?

>>44566616

Because he is titled the Lord of the End Times and the one that is ultimately supposed to lead Chaos to victory.

>>44566514

No, the future masses will remember him as Shadow the Edgehog because of this ludicrous hype.

Also daily reminder Mannfred is the true bringer of the end.

>>44566616
In the battle in the latest white dwarf he's said to have beaten the lord-celestant too. So there's a thing.

>>44566452

Even if I was ignorant of the future back then, I had already felt something odd about the entire thing, particularly how the models looked. Now I see they had already started applying the AoS aesthetics, readying themselves for the transition.

>>44566514

>It's failure of the masses then and not the character.

Wait what? Are you serious? This is a character made to appeal to the masses otherwise it wouldn't have been made, much less as a central part of the setting, his reception matters a lot. The writers failed at making Archaon deeds remain in the minds of general population in comparison to his hilarious defeat (which they also wrote)

>Now the future masses will always remember him as the man who destroyed the Old World and the man who will destroy Sigmar once and for all.

Exactly anon, it goes to show that the writers learned from their earlier mistakes and managed to make Archaon succeed as a character.

Storm of Chaos Archaon was a failure, writers learned from that and Age of Sigmar Archaon is a success Even if they went a bit too far in jerking him off imo

>>44566629
>Because he is titled the Lord of the End Times and the one that is ultimately supposed to lead Chaos to victory.

Have you read a single fantasy story? Anything in the genre at all?

Evil nearly wins. The apocalypse mostly happens.

Until they made a marketing decision out of universe to make a new setting, it was 100% guaranteed Archaon would never, ever stand any chance of achieving his goal. The only thing that matters for a villain is how cool you look on the journey, not the destination.

>>44566659
>Also daily reminder Mannfred is the true bringer of the end.

Nope, Archaon is the guy who activated the countdown. What Mannfred did or didn't do, had no impact on what's going to happen because

A) Teclis wasn't sure that spell was going to work it was a gamble
B) Archaon was making his way back to the Incarnates and would have screwed up the spell by jumping any of the Incarnates whose power is needed in the spell.

>>44566661
The battle in the WD is same one in the book of "Call of Archaon"?

If it's canon that he slew the CP, then CP's soul would be claimed by him like the other Stormcast who dared to face him.

>>44566705

Yeah, honestly? When the 5th End Times book came out I was pretty ticked by the false advertising.

Anyone can tell you the one thing a book series called "The End Times" set in the Fantasy Genre is guaranteed not to have is the world ending.

>>44566705

Indeed. But the problem is that the journey, even with what the writers tried to do, amounted to nothing because the players were there and saw Archaon's army getting their teeth kicked in day after day after day after day.

THEN he got cheap shotted.