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Jumpchain CYOA Thread #637: Bloody Stream Edition

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>Google Drive
https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B20r6rsFLOg_Zk5RdVdya3hJNnc&usp=sharing

>IRC
http://client00.chat.mibbit.com/?server=rizon.mibbit.org&channel=%23JumpchainCYOA
https://kiwiirc.com/client/irc.rizon.net/?#JumpchainCYOA

>Rules
http://pastebin.com/Gqj3iKyn

>Last Thread
>>44427615
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>>44443133
Bubble-anon from last thread, thanks guys!
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SONO CHI NO SADAME, JOJO.
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Squirtle line is pretty cool.
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>>44443584
Pretty much.
Even though Cyndaquil is my go-to starter, the Squirtle line will always have a place in my heart.
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>>44443584
Yep
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Transformers vs. GI Joe jump when?
I mean Transformers ARE nice and GI Joe are too...but the two together...
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>>44444061
GI Joe jump already has that option.
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http://www.livescience.com/17474-ancient-offering-discovered-pyramid.html

So, uh, I feel like I should be worried.
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>>44444272
Eh, worst comes to worst we can just send San Fransisco after them. That should be enough fabulousness to fend them off.
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Is anybody doing a starcraft protoss jump?
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>>44444630
yeah, someone is working on it

protoss jump when
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>>44444630
One Armed Anon is still working on it.
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>>44444630
OneArm's doing it. Last I heard he had over 80% done, he's just got internet issues.
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>>44444681
>>44444684
>>44444688
Oh well. So much for that idea. Oh well, OAA is probably better at this shit than I am anyway.
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>>44444272
Why? It's not like Jumpchan did it
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Is anyone working on a Just Cause Jump? I want to tether things to other things with grappling hooks, and slingshot them into space, but I don't have the games myself to make a Jump out of.
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>>44444883
I'd rather a Mercenaries jump.

But that sounds fun too.
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>>44432924

Red! I think you're the first one to take the major "Shadow Over Spielburg" drawback. Not that I doubt you can handle it. Make sure to fix the place up right and proper, now!

And enjoy the magics :)

(The referenced jump as shamelessly attached again)
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>>44445482
any changes this time around?
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>>44445514
>>44445514
Not yet. People got upset when I kept updating my Master of Magic jump last time, so I'm waiting until I have all the changes I want to do. When I do, I will post it with a list of significant changes. I don't want to do more than one significant update.

Nothing about the Magic User will change, though; that seems to be fine. Mainly I will be giving little improvements to the perks that no one is taking, and rearranging a bit of the Drop-In tree.
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So in the infamous jump powers grow in strength over time? What would the neon powers look like after 100+ years using it?
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>>44446251
>Pew Pew x100
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>>44446251
This question has been answered so many god damn times I've lost track, so let me summarize it:

Yes, but at a slow rate that you're better off using the Blast Cores, as Cole canonly does. As far as we know Cole/Kessler's Conduitness growing the way it does is because he's the Super Speshul Main Character and I so know I'm gonna catch flak for saying that. As for Neon, who knows - Digital's taken the hardlight construct bits, so Neon would probably be more fabulous energy manipulation. Something that makes sense given it's powerset.
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>>44446453
>and I so know I'm gonna catch flak for saying that
Why would you? Even in the games, it's made very clear that Cole outclasses almost every other conduit, with the arguable exceptions of Tate and Bertrand. Yet there is never really an explanation given for that other than "maybe Kessler did it".
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>>44446624
People don't like it when someone else implies that they don't have the same capacity as the Main Character.
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>>44446664
That's stupid. Even assuming powers grown at a constant, if much slower than Cole, rate, Jumpers are going to live for hundreds of years longer than him. Eventually, the gap will close, and then start growing again in reverse.
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I brought this up last thread but one of the most interesting things about jump chain is the abilities gained that aren't defined in individual jumps
Powers and abilities gained through multiple jumps, like using prototype to change a majority of your body into eezo nodes for super biotics in Mass Effect
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>>44446624
I'm pretty sure it's due to being in the epicentre of the Ray Sphere's explosion; I mean, between Cole/Kessler, The Beast, and the kaiju mayor guy from 2, it looks like the RS gives a significant boost to those standing next to it during activation.
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>>44446882
>I brought this up last thread but one of the most interesting things about jump chain is the abilities gained that aren't defined in individual jumps

That's largely the point of jumpchain.

>Powers and abilities gained through multiple jumps, like using prototype to change a majority of your body into eezo nodes for super biotics in Mass Effect

That probably wouldn't work.
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Does anyone have a link to the Jumpchain FAQs someone made?
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How would you guys like some DBZ in your Pokemon?
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>>44446705
Because centuries later nothing about that power matters anymore.
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How would Star Wars ships fare against the Reapers in Mass Effect? How would Star Trek ships go?
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>>44447505
God that new Mewtwo looks so fucking ridiculous.

It's like they wanted a Freeza.
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>>44447701
He just used Death Ball, it's pretty Freeza.
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>>44447662
Pretty well I'd think, Reaper Dreads are pretty much the toughest ships in the setting and AFAIK they are no larger and fairly weaker than Star Destroyers
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>>44447762
>>44447662
oh, also energy weapons are supposed to largely ignore ME shields, which Trek and Wars have in spades
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>>44447662
The ship weapons in Star Wars can destroy planets via orbital bombardment and Star Trek has anti-matter weapons. Nothing the Reapers have can beat either, heck even the ships from Halo could beat the Reapers.
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>>44447701
You didn't notice the original colours of mewtwo?
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>>44447505
EXPLAIN
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>>44447853
Mewtwo X got hit with some kind of yellow space shard, giving him a power boost from "Psychic godling" to "Planet buster".
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>>44447853
Pokken Tournament. Shadow Mewtwo is a boss.
Arcade fighting game, Wii U is getting a port of it at some point.
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>>44447865
>>44447869
please tell me this is some spin-off shit and not canon
Pokemon can't be getting to End-Jump power levels, it's the first fucking jump
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>>44447892
Dialga and Palkia have canonically been creating universes and destroying time for a lot longer than Mewtwo has been blowing up planets, though yes this is a spinoff game.
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>>44447906
fair point, I suppose.
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>>44447892
Its ok, just be Super Jesus like Ash and die... I think its four or five times now for others sins, and resurrect.
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>>44446453
Are there still blast cores in the world *)?
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>>44447535
every power matters so long as one person finds them interesting.
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>>44447956
Yes.
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>>44447978
This isn't a Stand, it's literally "I zappy zap lightning at you"
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>>44447943
The one in which he froze to death and suffered through function loss from hypothermia was fucking brutal.
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>>44447987
so, because you don't find conduit powers interesting no one should.Also, these powers are canonically quite flexible with a lot of evidence promoting growth in scope and flexibility as well as power.
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¡PIKALIBRÉ!
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>>44448041
If you find it interesting to shoot a lightning bolt there's probably something wrong with your imagination.
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>>44446996
>That's largely the point of jumpchain.
>>44446882
I know that's the point I was hoping to spark discussion on interesting uses of and combinations of abilities
without outright saying talk about interesting uses of and combinations of abilities
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What's a good Arabian nights Jump?

I want belly dancers and harem garb and silk.
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>>44447987
>I zappy zap lightning at you
>Kessler can use time travel
>I zappy zap lightning at you
>Kessler can make giant clones of himself
>I zappy zap lightning at you
>Kessler can move at super speed
>I zappy zap lightning at you
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>>44448104
If you try to claim you get Kessler's power they're going to scream themselves hoarse at you.
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>>44448103
Disney and go to Aladdin? I think that's the only one.
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>>44448066
>not turning into electricity and using power lines and cables for transport
>not using your shocking touch to fry electronics and screw with security systems
>not using the canon method of healing through electricity
>not using your electricity to fuck with projectile pathing
>not stimulating people's nerves and making the air literally electric as you give a speech.
>not using your electrical powers in tandem with electromagnets for some supreme fuckery.

The only one here without imagination is you, muthafucka.

>>44448053
BUT FUCK PIKACHU TO HIGH HELL ALREADY.
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>>44448114
I'm not trying to claim that, but InFamous powers have shown to be VERY diverse when you get enough experience, even if it's just been Kessler so far.

Besides, even the basic powers that Cole begins with are way more diverse than just shooting lightningbolts.
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>>44448104
To be frank, none of those made sense with the base powerset of 'electricity.'

If anything, I'd go off of >>44448150
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>>44447869
I'm pretty sure i pointed this out last thread, or the one before that, but let me say again:

Megaevolved Mewtwo is stronger then God.
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>>44448103
>>44448128
Prince of Persia jump when.
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>>44448174
Told you anon. You're not allowed to be inventive with your conduit powers, even if it's canon you can be. This thread hates creativity.
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>>44448215
>not allowed
Fuck that. Even if others don't approve, I'll just do it privately. This is a single player game. I'm not going to let the opinions of other players get in the way of my fun. The only one who has authority over this stuff is the Jump creator, so unless Quicksilver comes and tells us that our power potential isn't in the league of what we've seen, I'll treat it as if it is.
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>>44448297
Good for you Anon
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Does anyone have the link to the 40k jump? I can't seem to find it in the drive.
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>>44448351
Which one?
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>>44448351
Which one? This?
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>>44448188
>using vidya stats as a basis for anything
Mega-Rayquaza would be considered the godking of all reality if that was the case.
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>>44448380
>59:17
>>44448381
>59:15

Also, Which one? hive mind.
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Everyone always talks about Kessler and electrokinesis but there's a character in Second Son who was able to create solid holographic constructs, transform into a giant armored angel and bring both himself and others into virtual reality.

Conduit powers can be broken even without advanced age or training. Just imagine what kind of abilities a jumper could give someone once they have the means to reverse engineer & modify genes.
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>>44448188
Take anything about Arceus and his close kin as so it doesn't completely break the game in half. They're undoubtedly jobbing, Giratina in Platinum was explicitly jobbing to the MC.
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>>44448467
Second Son was so fucking rad. I love it.
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>>44448467
Probably because the guy is a weedy nerdy loser.
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>>44448467
oh yeah, I'm almost considering finding a method of taking the blood of the MC from SS and giving myself the power to take other powers. Which they never really explained and pisses me off.
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>>44448655
There's something really funny about that sentence and the context of it.
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>>44448670
If you want to do a "HAHA BUT U NURD" thing then it should be pretty obvious to you that a thread about escapist fantasy isn't going to desire to escape into a life just like their real one.
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>>44448700
You can turn into a giant angel in real life?
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>>44448655
Confirmed, the Video Conduit was probably a jumper.
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>>44448103
Get the desert location on Sword & Sorcery.
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Forget 100 years, I'm trying to figure out what kind of scaling I'd get with Soft Cap and Folded 1,000 Times, plus training perks, after 20290 years, as an Electrokinesis Conduit, Electrokinesis and Ionikinesis user from Teen Titans, and Meltdowner from Railgun...=

I figure electricity and charged particles are just kindof my bitch.
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>>44448720
Someone would rather be a cool, capable person who can turn into an angel and not a loser.
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>>44448753
Where are Soft Cap and Folded 1,000 Times from?
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>>44448753
>Soft Cap and Folded 1,000 Times
Which jumps are these from I see soft cap mentioned all the time
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>>44448763
Well, it's not like picking Video makes you a dweeb by default.
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>>44448814
Sure, but it does make people less interested in being like him or paying attention to his feats.
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>>44448803
>>44448784

Soft cap is from Elona and Folded 1k times from Obsidian tower trilogy.
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>>44448839
Thanks.
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What's a good jump to help me set up a telepathic network between all of my companions and myself?
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>>44448954
Raildex.
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>>44448978
Thanks.
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>>44448954
Alpha Centauri.
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>>44448978
How far away do you reckon the max range for a pair of Raildex telepaths to communicate would be?
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>>44449087
Ask Crowley.
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Sorry to bother people with what is probably a dumb question, but I never played the Infamous games.
How powerful can Electrokinesis get?
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>>44449125
Basically, this - >>44448150

Creativity, anon.
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Jumpers, tell me about your favourite alt-forms.
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What changed in the Naruto jump? It's in the uploads folder again.
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>>44449161
I like to be the little girl
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>>44449180
I think he clarified how companions and imports worked, and let you import a companion as a Sensei.
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>>44449125
>Fire lethal or non-lethal bolts of electricity.
>Trap people with energy bindings.
>Revive people with electricity.
>Create plasma grenades.
>Ride electrical wires and magnetic tracks.
>Electrostatic levitation.
>EMPs
>Absorb electricity.
Plus few other abilities, and your attacks are strong enough to destroy cars and damage buildings.
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>>44449161
Ones I designed myself like the kaiju form.
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>>44449180
>>44449207
But that was a month ago. Someone doublecheck, because someone might be trying to sneak a basterdized version past us.
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>>44449334
He made that update like 4-7 days ago?
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>>44449351
Pretty sure it was longer ago than that.
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>>44449161

Just to clarify, any alternate race/species you take in a jump counts as an altform, right?

...I wonder, how far can you go stacking them? I mean, I know that leads to half human half everything half everything else half nothing half thing that doesn't exist, but...

...Okay, forget I asked that second one. That's a path I'm not mentally prepared to take.
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>>44449334
T'was literally 4 days ago.

>>44378609
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>>44449379
I guess the holiday drinking has ruined my brain.
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>>44449356
I was wrong, it was 3 days ago.
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>>44449392
Now go and make a Salty Bet jump while the high is on.
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>>44449458
I've never involved myself with that and barely know what it is. Far as I know, it's betting money on Mugen matches.
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>>44449458
Finally I can have the ultimate suit of power armor.
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>>44449458
FUCKING VENOM
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>>44448104
>>44448150
What would be the uses for cryokinesis
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>>44449161
Dress + Wrestling Belt combo. Worn by my companion.
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>>44449486
Aaaaand you are informed enough to make a jump.

Then again, there is WAIFU WARS BETA to include... Damnations!
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If I use return to go back to the Pokemon Trainer jump and pick up a human companion with a Pod can they take six Pokemon as well?
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>>44448196
Once I manage to overcome my writer block and my own natural laziness.

The barebones of the jump are pretty much ready, I just suck at putting the word on the metaphorical paper. Couldn't write fluff text if my life depended on it.

Here's the perk trees:

Drop In Line
100 - Generic 'Find adventure and cool stuff'
200 - 'Architect' perk, that lets you create and implement ALL THE TRAPS seamlessly into what you build, and make moving megastructures like the Hanging Gardens.
400 - Anti-Paradox perk, makes your actions on the timeline immutable, so things retroactively changing the past won't work unless its you doing it.
800 - 'Taint Transfer', based on Ahriman from the reboot. Let's you absorb curses, taint and corrupiton in general, storing it in your body. Allow for cleasing and purifying things, and later using those curses on attacks or to corrupt minions. Also gives enhanced mental resilience, and reduces mental effects of corruption on self.

Royalty Line
100 - Generic 'weapon skills', enhanced learning speed in regards to fighting and battle.
200 - 'Acrobatics', all the insane parkour you know and love.
400 - Generic 'Royal charisma' and enhanced willpower
800 - Water Healing. Really good healing, 'a mouthful of water makes you go from the brink of death to full health' good. Purified or blessed water gives greatly enhanced physical attributes and some other effects. Can drink mildly tainted water (seawater/sewerwater/mild poisons) with no ill effect. Works with blood, post-jump.

Cont.
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>>44449676
Probably not. That would imply that you could take as many people as you want from other Jumps as long as they are slaved to one of your companions.
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>>44449458
>>44449486
>Salty Bets jump
>daring to deal with this fucker
If you wanted to commit suicide, just do it on your own time. Don't go dragging us down with you.
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>>44449676
Can't you just take a PC full of pokemon? Thought that ideas been around for ages.
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>>44449676
You can take as many pokemon as you want. Pretty much, only your six are counted as people.
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>>44449686
Cont.
Magician Line
100 - Instant knowledge of the myths and cosmology of the world. Nothing truly obscure, but as a rule, the more people know about it, the greater your knowledge in it.
200(Free Mage) - MAGIC ... I'm ... not really sure what it does. Still researching feats.
400 - Ahura Magic, which is stronger, divine light-based magic.
800 - Turns you into a Djinn, choice between Marid(Water) and Ifrit(Fire), both also have some control over earth and air. Really powerful elemental magic, energy forms, all the good stuff. With some decades of training, can learn to do Ratash's infinite [element] army trick.

Monster Line
400(The backgrounds price) - 'Monstrous physiology', 'build your monster form' table, mutiple element, HUEG, STRONK, flash step, minor time powers. Go wild.
800 - 'Warden of Time', Dahaka-lite. Medium Shapeshifting, nigh-immunity to time manipulation, scary eldritch shadow thingy form aura. Can use entropy to rapidly age things, touch-range, super effective against time-displaced people and objects.

Still triyng to balance the Relicis of Time so they aren't completely broken. There's also a Water Sword (with import option) and a flying carpet.

There's also the drawbacks, but this is too fucking long already.
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>>44449706
>not taking him as a companion
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>>44449560
Freezing someone's bloodcells (this is bad, don't do it)
Travelling through/on ice you create ice
Ice armour
Freezing the air
Weather manipulation maybe?
Worsening existing damage
Ice constructs (this is seriously big)
Illusions through light refraction?
Turning into an ice golem, always regenerating from the moisture in the air
Putting things in stasis
Maybe timestop down the line.

Sky's the limit, as long as you're creative. These are just off the top of my head.
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>>44449686
ALL THE HYPE.

To clarify, Water Healing would work both on me and others?

>>44449722
Delightful. What's the problem with Relics?
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>>44449676
>>44449697
Actually, no I just remembered I can get the PC for my Warehouse.

>>44449715
>>44449721
Temporary lapse in memory has been corrected. Although now I'm also remembering that podded companions can't be imported into the majority of jumps, so If I carry out this plan I'll have to slowly empower my trainer companion myself.
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>>44449161
It's fun to be a bird, in which guise I happen to be in whether it be Pokemon, Animorphs or whatever.

That being said, it's also amusing to see the reactions when you turn into a flesh eating dinosaur the size of a bus.
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>>44449772
>I'm also remembering that podded companions can't be imported into the majority of jumps
Uh, why do you think that? Podded companions can be imported like regular companions. They just don't stop needing a pod.
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>>44449560
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BpjPDQZxVko

There's a whole bunch of fake ice conduits in the second game, including this guy (at 3:27) and the conduit their powers come from who could do an ice dash/teleport thing.
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>>44449721
Well then.
Looks like my companion based run just got a whole lot hotter.

Pic only tangentially related.
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>>44449560
Become a walking ice age eventually, as the jump maker attested. So all of >>44449726 is probably accurate.
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>>44449161
I like being a fluffy kitten sometimes. It's nice for relaxation and fun. (Nobody suspects a thing)
Close second would be the giant dragon form. Powerful, intimidating, and just so much space to fit in more cybernetics...
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>>44449721
No, all the pokemon count as companions still, I have no idea where you even got that idea.
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>>44449935
Is your name QS? Pretty sure it's not.
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>>44449966
QS did seem to think of Pokemon as companions across the board. Doesn't mean that's how you should play though. He had some peculiar notions.
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>>44450015
He never indicated such in all my time here, and my time here started pretty early in our life.
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>>44449100
Does that mean we don't know, or is Crowley an example?
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>>44449966
from the rules document QS wrote, linked in the OP, line 9
>Every individual Pokémon takes up a Companion slot.
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>>44449879
>>44449840
>>44449726
Thank you I was trying to think if something past just freeze it or throw icicles at it
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>>44449078
Oh that looks perfect. That capstone though... Does it access only its own jumps kind of psychic power, or does any psychic power those people have add to the effect?
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So the monsters Inc. option to give up limbs to enhance the strength of the remaining limbs, what kind of enhancement can I expect if I'd give up ninety-nine limbs?
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>>44450043
Yes, the six you catch to take with you. Nobody is going to listen to a shitposter who only chimed in because they're offended at people catching pokemon. You're arguing with 600 threads of Return plans and precedent, where QS NEVER told anyone they couldn't do such. And I know you're going to turn around and say the bad nasty evil thread stopped him, but he didn't complain even back at the start where he bossed everyone around. So again, fuck off.
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>>44448954
Pacific Rim.
You also get to be sweet ass kaiju.
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>>44450076
You need to walk away from the computer for like a week bro. You're getting worked up over literally nothing.
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>>44450015
I don't think it was 'pokemon are companions' it was 'pokemon of a certain sapience level would have to be made companions to come along with you. So the Pokemon from Trainer (most of the time) and PMD (all the time) qualify, while those from Conquest don't.
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>>44450076
He's... not doing that? He just said that all Pokemon count as companions.
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>>44450076
You seem pretty salty about getting clarifications.
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>>44450102
I'm pointing out to you that you can catch more than your six pokemon, and that trying to come in here and boss everyone around based on your own idiotic assumptions is unwanted.

>>44450110
If ones past your six were companions they'd need pods. Don't be a retard.
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>>44450104
Oh and the PC seemed to be a substitute for pods that only worked with Pokemon. Since it was around before the companion rules became what they are now.
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>>44450126
>clarifications
You mean your own made up bullshit not even the creator backed up or supported back when it was created?
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>>44450082
Oh that's a good one too, and the plans let me make others into hybrids so I can introduce new companions to the network. Thanks.
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>>44450130
You need to calm down, you're arguing against things that aren't even being said. Calm the fuck down.
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Also if you Have a giant monster alt-form And this is in fact my final form Is it safe to assume you have a giant monster's strength in all your forms?
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>>44450151
That is the sort of thing it's used for.
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>>44450150
You're naively siding with someone because you didn't even read their fucking argument. They attacked a post saying you could catch more than six pokemon and said that was false. It should be obvious to you what that means, but instead you just blindly defend someone because my tone is offending you.
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>>44450171
Okay I didn't know if it was specific to abilities Which were only available due to The nature of your alternate form, or if you also had access to their stats.
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>>44450130
I think it's like >>44450133 said, the PC you could only get with Return acts like Pokemon only pods. They'd be companions and count for your active limit, but they don't cost pods or anything like that.
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>>44450190
That's fucking retarded with zero precedent. More made up bullshit.
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>>44450182
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>>44450200
No, it's true. QS said it himself, if you use Return to go back you can install a PC in your Warehouse and have as many Pokemon as you want.
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>>44450200
Here I'm annoyed with this stupid argument so I found a post on the archive.
http://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/34274207/#q34285916
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>>44450200
Except that's exactly what I was saying, 'cause that's what the rules you obviously never read explicitly spell out.
>You can have up to 8 "Active" Companions at once. Companions are allies granted to you via the CYOA itself. Pokémon, PMD Partner, Sidekicks, these all count as Companions.
>Every individual Pokémon takes up a Companion slot.
>You can have an infinite number of Companions, but only eight can be active at any time. The others are basically stored in a dimension where time is stopped. You can swap you these eight at any point in your COSMIC WAREHOUSE.
>Pokémon can instead be stored in a Box Storage System inside your WAREHOUSE, but that requires taking Return from the WAREHOUSE and getting one from a second ten years in the Pokémon world.
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>>44450104
Conquest was way later and I can't remember him ever saying anything about it.

PMD always was, pretty sure there is something somewhere written by him that says the 6 pokemon you take from Trainer automatically count as companions as well. Whether other pokemon from trainer do is debatable but obviously if the main 6 count the others more likely do than don't as well.

QS is really not the person to listen to in terms of companion rules anyway, a probable QS who implied some stuff a year ago even less so.
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>>44450200
So instead... You can have all of the pokemon out at once even though they are at the level that other things need pods? Why would pokemon be special? Why would they get an exception that you can't then use in Digimon, or Medabots, or any of the other worlds that have other beings battling under the command of a person?
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>>44450257
>>44450264
That doesn't mean it's a pod. It's a device that stores pokemon, not a pod stand-in.

>>44450266
The statement refers to the six you choose to take with you.

>>44450284
>even though they are at the level that other things need pods?
They aren't.
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>>44450315
Those in Trainer and PMD are at the level of things that need pods. If you want heaps of not as intellectually advanced pokemon go to Conquest.
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Reminder that pokemon in trainer are smart enough they can get college degrees.
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>>44450352
PMD are, but certainly not trainer. And again, QS himself never said you needed pods for other pokemon.
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>>44450315
>The statement refers to the six you choose to take with you.
http://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/34274207/#34285916
http://archive.4plebs.org/_/search/text/%20pokemon%20companion/username/quicksilver/
That runs counter to everything quicksilver has ever said on the matter.
>even though they are at the level that other things need pods?
>They aren't.
As does this.
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>>44450436
Meowth is probably smarter than most of the people in this thread to be honest. I wouldn't discount how intelligent trainer pokemon are.
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>>44450441
>Reposting the quote I already responded to saying it refers to your six.
>>44450455
Meowth the super genius at a level not seen in anything else but Mewtwo is now representative of all pokemon?
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>>44450395
Yer goddamned right they are.
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>>44449161
I did not so much choose the night as I did embrace the role set out for me.
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>>44450436
QS said Pokemon from Trainer count as companions. Some people think this is stupid and shouldn't count as pokemon are of an ambiguous and varied intelligence.

Pokemon really muddied the water in terms of companions and the rules were never set out properly anyway so this argument never goes anywhere.
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>>44450441
>Pokemon are companions.
I don't agree with him. But that's pretty definitive.
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>>44450474
Meowth often shows that the other Pokemon are surprisingly intelligent but lack a consistent means of translation to humans. Whenever he can act as an intermediary they pretty much all can carry clearly sapient conversation.

They probably could be at least blue collar people if they could read human scripts like Meowth. There's evidence that some others can read and they do have entire college programs for pokemon so its not terribly uncommon for self-motivated creatures to do things in integration with the rest of society. The real tripping point seems to be language, to which Meowth is exceptional outside of the psychics and legendaries.
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>>44450534
>>44450560
The statement referring to your six. He even says in that same post that you can catch more to take with you using a Return.
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>>44450474
>Reposting the quote I already responded to saying it refers to your six.
... No, that was the quote you said didn't confirm the PC was a substitute for pods, which no one was claiming in the first place. But fine, if that quote only refers to the 6 pokemon you get from the jump
1. Why does it exist, the jump tells you that the 6 you get to take with you are each their own companion, so there wouldn't be any reason to put it in the rules pastebin.
2. show quicksilver saying that or any other piece of evidence that that rule only applies in a far narrower context then it is written.
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Santa Jump
Jumper Conquers the Martians +200
The Nightmare before Christmas +200
Scary Red Planet +200,
Promoted -100
Holly Jolly Criminal free
A single night free
That's what Christmas is all About -100
Toy-Making Free for Promoted
Naughty or Nice -100
Christmas Ghosts-300
Magic Toys -300 Discount for promoted
Peace on Earth -600
Santa Suit free
Magic Sack free
The List free
Workshop free
Elves free
Mall Santas -200
Santa's Harley-100

Note:Using Final Fantasy human form for the duration of this jump so I can Fit on the motorcycle ,Primal pack leader size boost was most likely a mistake.
The plan: we are anything up production! With unlimited resources and labor made practically irrelevant with modular makers every Good kid is getting what they want,Except for living things, that's a can of worms I don't need to open, and its poor form to give someone a pet on Christmas. But it's a sad Truths that often what a child wants isn't something physical,Sometimes they wantThings like being able to play Catch with grandpa again or they want mommy to get better and come home from the hospital. That's why mother box is accompanying me With their finest Resurrecting and curative magics At the ready,Sure there might be a lot of questions to answer in the morning but it beats the alternative. Continued
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>>44450584
No. He said
>Pokemon are companions.
Full stop.

Not "Your team are companions"


The "you can stuff them into a PC" is as an alternative to stuffing them in Companion space. They are still Companions and still take up a slot, they just get their own special space.
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>>44450644
Of course There is the problem of the Martians and the King Of Halloween,Thankfully my troops managed to force Mars into a cold war situation But the king of Halloween Is another matter, a ghastly creature made up of Innumerable bat ghosts That speaks And Interacts physically with the world through an entire pumpkin patch worth of Possessed jack-o'-lanterns,He is a Primal spirit of on death and the harvest season. Not something that can easily be fought indeed one of his bat ghosts is found in every Light in every jack-o'-lantern in the world,But I am not unreasonable and neither is it, using my various charisma and manipulation buffs I take him on one of my Rides and Show him how much work goes into Christmas, remind him how much work must go into Halloween. And since the new and improved benchmark for Christmas would be much too draining for him he Relents, of course he does find out I tricked him eventually and that's when every Jack-o'-lantern on earth starts spewing out Martian soldiers! This is a tragic and sudden war that I was not prepared for beyond my usual And the Sheer scale And Speed of the invasion Puts my armies at a severe disadvantage rolling for Combat Roll(1d100)+0:16,+0 Total:16 Wow good thing I roll low, a few blasts from my LoT to the well shielded Martian capital and I'm able to get them to call it off. With a great many People terrorized and the earth now aware of the Martian threat Banchô Claus has saved The earth!
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>>44450647
Unless granted by an option in the CYOA, companions take up pods. Pokemon beyond your six do not.
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>>44450760
So if there's only two methods of bringing them along, and they don't need pods, the obviously they're regular Companions.

I say again
>Pokemon are companions.
Full stop. No qualifiers. No ifs ands or buts..
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>>44450760
okay, let me lay it out for you
>companions that are not ACTIVE (meaning not in your current party of 8) go to a pocket dimension
>if you take a PC, you get an extra space just for pokemon COMPANIONS
>therefore, all pokemon are COMPANIONS
jesus christ, was that so hard?
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>>44450805
You can't make someone a companion without a companion buy.
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Is there a limit to what type of object can eat a devil fruit like could I make a War hammer eat a paramecia or logia ?
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>>44450933
pretty sure it has to be human
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>>44450933
I'm not too familiar with the series, but I'm pretty sure the most basic requirement for eating a devil fruit is the ability to eat, so unless you're hammer can do that you might have some problems.
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>>44450933
>>44450962
There is a trick to that actually,Dr. Vegapunk Knows it, good luck getting it out of him.
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>>44450933
If you have Dr. Vegapunk's research, even swords can eat Devil Fruits!

See - Spandam's sword, which ate the Elephant-Elephant Fruit.
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>>44450933
Even objects can use them. Somehow. Spandam had a sword that had an elephant fruit.
>>44450962
Chopper isn't human, and there was a giant eagle that ate a horse fruit, so it's now a pegasus.
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>>44450933
Only Zoan type fruits can be "eaten" by inanimate objects to bring them to life, going by what we've seen in canon. But it appears that any item can be fused with a Zoan fruit, so you can still approximate a Logia or Paramecian b starting with an item with strange properties.
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>>44448954
Sins of a Solar Empire, if you go Advent. Their entire thing is being a giant telepathic thing.
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>>44451241
>taking the ray that brainwashes planets

Don't do this.
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>>44451241
>>44451285
>taking the ray that brainwashes planets
Do this.
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>>44451241
>>44451285
>>44451342
Well yeah you have to take it and you also have to take every last scrap of research done to develop it, all the backups for that Research and the brains of people who worked on it,And destroy All of that. how else are you going to ensure that it never gets used?
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>>44451285
Just because you have it doesn't mean you have to use it.
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>>44451407
>pointlessly convoluted and destructive bancho plan

Definitely don't do this

>>44451285
>>44451342
Whatever floats your boats, guys
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>>44451538
Destructive certainly but I wouldn't say convoluted, how else do you generally Remove a technology from existence?
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>>44451566
You don't, not without knocking a civilisation down a few eras - once someone has invented something, sooner or later it's going to happen again because the tech and knowledge base exists to allow it to.

This is the exact same thing you got kicked out of IRC for though. Shame you didn't want to learn your lesson there.
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>>44451879
Listen buddy I'm just trying to keep planets from being mind controlled,I'm literally asking what's another way to go about Keeping that Ray from getting reinvented. Keeping the planets from being mind controlled doesn't seem like an evil thing to me, Am I wrong about that?
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>>44451879

Kill a few people to save the lives of billions sounds reasonable to me
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>>44451972
Keeping a planet from being mind controlled? good.

Sending a civilisation back to the dark ages (I'll be generous and assume you'd stop there) to do so? Bad.

The trouble here is genocide is the only option you even seem capable of attempting. The TEC has a planet killer gun that leaves planets irradiated wastelands, and you aren't planning on killing them off as well, are you?
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>>44452039
The Unity in SoaSE are super telepathic, they all know exactly what the device is and how to use it
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>>44452066
He didn't say anything about genocide. Just destroying the research and killing the researchers. Presumably not every single member of the civilization knows how to build the thing.
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>>44452066
One research team =/= genocide. And no I didn't plan on that because I have no idea who those people are.
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>>44452114
Yes and I'm trying to prevent them I'm getting to that point, and going full borg,If I'm too late than it would be Pointless.
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>>44452066
>>44452114

If there tech is that powerful and if they all know how to use it then that is the safe option to save billions more
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>People so desperate to shit on Tera finally go too far and get people defending him again.
Honestly, when are you going to learn that attacking him accomplishes nothing and eventually makes YOU look like the problem? This isn't the first rodeo.
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>>44452345
Thanks anonymous, I know I'm a screwup and I can be kind of evil, but it's usually a well-intentioned Evil. And that's more than can be Said of some people with trip codes, I know I've got stuff to work on and I'm trying.
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>>44452428
I'm not defending you. I'm telling them to stop doing something stupid.
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>>44452451
You're telling them to stop attacking Me, same difference Right?
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>>44452428

You're nicer than me bancho I would have started operation bomb the hell out of them.
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>>44451972
Use that ray to mindocontrol everyone and make them forget and never create another one obviously
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>>44452581
I honestly Can't tell if that's more or less ethical but I like the way you think.
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>>44452475
No, he's telling them to stop responding to you because you'll just drag them down to your level and beat them with experience.
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>>44452451
>>44452644
Tsuntsun as fuck.
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>>44452644
Fair enough I should've expected something closer to That, but I'm trying to be less defensive.
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>>44452722

Bancho and anon sitting in a tree
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>>44452804
F-U-C-K-I-N-G
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>>44445482
Quest For Glory.

Background: Drop-In. "Wanted: Hero?" The game's afoot!
-600 Spell Sense. Because knowing is half the battle.
-100 Who Needs A Dentist? *tiiiing*
-400 Erana's Fruit (Sapling Tree). Every forest starts with a seed...
-000 Basic Gear. Batman says always be prepared.
-000 Heroing Outfit. It's cosplay time!
+100 Heroic Style. All the time!

>cues soundtrack perk
>queues Englishman In New York by Sting
>arranges for light breeze to dramatically swirl cape
>starts the music
>walks into the valley

Ten years of glorious questing and heroing, ho!
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>>44452867

Next comes the baby in a baby carriage
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>>44452804
>>44452867
Yeah How about no.

>> Bubble tea is not a milkshake CAPTCHA!
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>>44452982
Too late.

It is written in the ancient records now.
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>>44445482
Is it just me, or is archeld really moe?
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>>44452982

It's too late anon you already have a baby in a carriage what are you two going to name it
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I'd prefer you people to go back to shipping me with the Fortress of Arrogance, please. At least that idea was really cute and made me feel bad.
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>>44453009
>>44453051
Well Monique is gonna scream at me about this, you ever get an earful From a black chick with Two heads and torsos? it ain't pretty.
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>>44453105
>>44453092

>As if I would be caught with bancho you baka

This is just adorable
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>>44453092
You don't deserve her, honey.
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stop giving him attention pls
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>>44453179

He dumped her for bancho. Wew lad
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>>44453207
That was basically my point, but there's something intensely wrong with them.

>>44453179
>>44453216
Honestly, someone telling you not to feed a shitposter by shitposting back really shouldn't illicit this kind of response. It just embarrassing for all involved.
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>>44453216
Even I think that was a bad move...
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>>44453282

Well maybe he shouldn't have dumped her for bancho and expect no one to talk about it
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What are all the different kinds of magic/clarketech/weird eldritch eyes you can get?
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>>44453363
Maybe you shouldn't shitpost in response to someone telling you not to shitpost with a shitposter? Goddamn.
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>>44453282
>That was basically my point, but there's something intensely wrong with them.

Asperger's syndrome, oppositional defiant disorder, paranoid and schizoid tendencies, intermittent explosive disorder,Disassociative identity disorder, I get a new diagnosis with every psychologist I see no one is certain what is wrong with me. And it's not like I'm shitposting On purpose I'm just simultaneously enthusiastic and really bad at this.
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>>44453396
Off the top of my head, go to Naruto, Mushoku Tensei, and Code Geass
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>>44453433
I wasn't even talking about you, that was directed at the weird-ass shipper shit.. I'm not surprised you have all those issues, though that sounds more like a list of self-diagnosed bullshit.
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>>44453396
>Ensuring that no one will ever have your brand
Making your eyes that special is pretty shortsighted.
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>>44453433

But you have barely said anything this thread

>>44453467

>I wasn't even talking about you, that was directed at the weird-ass shipper shit.

Hey you were the one who started getting defensive and going full tsun about bancho and then started getting mad when we made a joke at your expense
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Would taking anomolous physiology from SCP as an NGE Angel remove the "exploding weakspot" drawback of having an S2 engine?
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>>44453396
Mushoku Tensei has some fun ones. Also lets you distribute ones you have to other people. Can't think of any others that haven't been mentioned yet though.
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>>44453433
>Dissociative Identity Disorder
Is that really something you have a hunch about? I would think a person switching through multiple personalities wouldn't be a "maybe"
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>>44453396
One of the LoT supplements has some pretty useful cyborg eyes, going servant in The Fate jumps can get you a number of different magic eyes. Percy Jackson can
Let you have a Medusa's gaze attack, If memory serves there Is a nice package of vision powers in DC , and Marvel lets you choose how your kinesis powers manifest. EVA Can turn you into a giant eyeball with all sorts of bull shit lasers spewing out.
>>44453467
Wrong, it's professionally diagnosed bull shit, I've been institutionalized like four times.
>>44453570
I don't agree with it but I've been diagnosed with it, doctors can never quite agree on what I have an apparently there is a lesser version where it's more about how you interpret/react to things rather than being an entirely different person Kind of like My animal crossing origins.
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>>44453555
My assumption would be that it would still explode, it would just be a lot easier to survive the explosion and you'd be able to still get a decent trickle of power. That's just me though, fanwank as you will.
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>>44453550
I hate him and the idea of being shipped with someone with several mental issues makes me physically ill. It shouldn't be surprising that I was 'defensive'.
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>>44453555
Kind of, I guess? It wouldn't make it invulnerable or anything, but I'd assume at the very least it's no more likely to explode than the rest of you. Presumably you'd still lose access to the power supply if it was somehow destroyed with the rest of you intact, though.
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>>44453608

>I hate (love him) him and the idea of being shipped with someone with several mental issues makes me physically ill (Feel funny). It shouldn't be surprising that I was 'defensive' (Tsundere).

It's okay I understand anon
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>>44453652
It's not nice to insult the mentally challenged, but I hope you choke to death the next time you make a spastic attempt at feeding yourself.
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>>44453679
cry more anon, it only makes us laugh harder
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>>44453594
Oh. I had no idea there was a lesser version. Thanks!
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>>44453679

It looks like I was right you really are tsundere for bancho
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>>44453594
Wait.

Wait, wait, wait.

You based the Animal Crossing origins on your own mental illness?

That explains so much, and I finally understand why people were calling 'em a trap jump.
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>>44453717
No,I was using it as an example of how The lesser form of disassociative identity disorder works, it was actually based on my sketches for a psychological mod supplement.
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The lesson here is to let the shitposters shitpost, lest they turn around and shitpost at you. Self destructive morons care not at who they target it.
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>>44453744
Okay, that's not-

>psychological mod supplement

...yeah no. I wouldn't trust one at all, but from you in particular? I'd rather take Abomination in Dune. At least that's an interesting kind of crazy.

Just.

No.
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>>44453594
>>44453569
>>44453441
>Naruto, Mushoku Tensei, Code Geass, LoT, Fate jumps, DC, Marvel, Percy Jackson

Thanks, guys!
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>>44453706
>>44453712
Say anons, would you like some jumps? Or should I toss my plans into the trash? Because the chances of me working on these when I get heckled by shitposters is pretty much nil.
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>>44453798
Oh card captor also has a perk that lets you color your eyes however you want And I think God of war Lets you make them glow or something.
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>>44453762

Like I said anon you are the one who went full tsundere and started calling other anons "shitposters" because you don't want to admit

>>44453820

What does you being tsundere have anything to do with future jumps.
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>>44453856
I just wonder how it feels being you, one of the cancers that's working to actively harm this thread.
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>>44453879

>I just wonder how it feels being you, one of the cancers that's working to actively harm this thread.

You're getting really desperate for anons to stop calling you tsundere huh anon?
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Listen how about I promise to be quiet for the rest of the thread,And everyone stopped arguing about Who is or is not Counted among the shitposters Or tsundere And talk about jumps instead okay?
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>>44453932
At this point I'm desperate for you to fall into a woodchipper more than anything.
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criminal
demonfoe
personal vindetta
london
age 22
slayer
tough
magic weapon
relic
stage magic
encyclopedia
mental fortitude
mannerism
demology notes
armory
life debt
trench-coat
tarot cards and crystal ball
membership
spell book
cigarettes
money
buddy
car
ancient book
native guide
wand ace of winchester
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Everything is shitposting.
Everyone's tsundere

MOVING ON
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>>44453932
Not him, but the joke's getting old and at this point the whole thing is starting to remind me of /b/. Can we move onto something else? Literally anything else? Look, it's a pretty sad state of affairs when >>44453936 is actually the voice of reason here.

>>44453956
And you-close this browser and/or go work on some jumps, or take a break-I don't care which. There's nothing to be gained further here.

>>44453998
Sure.

How far can you take Creative Composition from Ar Tonelico? Broadly speaking, what kind of effects can't you reproduce with it? Presumably the more conceptual/unique stuff can't be wholly imitated too given it's technically science, right?
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>>44453975
I see you remain unintelligible after all these months. I'm happy you've managed to figure out how the "choose file" button works, though. Good for you, buddy.
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>>44453998
S-stupid anon! It's not like I'm shitposting to get your attention or anything!
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So, to the anon (and his allies) that picked up Pathfinder jump:

How are you guys doing Backgrounds?
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>>44454051
Not familiar with D&D, but are the gods still as anti-technology in Pathfinder as they are in Forgotten Realms?
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>>44454051
I haven't talked to anyone else about it yet. As I said, it'll be after the Holidays before I get down to working at it due to excessive drinking.

>>44454084
There is literally a part of Golarian that's inundated with fancy technology from a crashed spaceship which holds an AI on the cusp of becoming a god. So no.
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>>44453936

The thing is you haven't done anything but that anon gets heart flustered for you any time you call him tsundere and is trying to ignore his feelings.

>>44454013

Okay I'll stop because the anon will never admit his true feelings
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>>44454084
Nope! As far as Golarion goes, there's a lot more advanced tech lying around.

Numeria is a country best described as Conan the Barbarian vs. Magic Robots From Space, and there's even a minor goddess of invention called Birgh.

Alkenstar is a steampunk country with lots of guns because they're in an area where magic either doesn't work or goes horribly wrong, due to that area having been the battlefield for a war between two 18-20th level Wizards several thousand years before.
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>>44454013
>Presumably the more conceptual/unique stuff can't be wholly imitated too given it's technically science
Considering the fact that song science is literally conceptual science that runs off of emotions to alter physics and reality that's a poor presumption.
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What happens to servants in fate/night jumps?
Are they considered companions or summons?
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>>44454171
Companions.
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>>44454130
>>44454100
That's a relief. Good to know I can safe-ishly break out the giant robots without being accused of double heresy-

>an AI on the cusp of becoming a god

Wait, like SHODAN or a no-bullshit D&D deity? And if it's the latter, how the fuck does that work?

>>44454135
Unless you can convince me in it's natural state Song Science can do stuff like the Mystic Eyes of Death or Soulfire, I'm going to stand by it. There's a difference between "runs off emotions to warp reality" and "can imitate literally anything perfectly, ever" and by that logic the Soul Gems from Madoka could be used to kill people in children's card games.

>>44454171
I think they can become companions, if you want to keep 'em.
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>>44454203
The latter. It's the BBEG of one of the Adventure Paths.
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>>44454241
...is there a risk that other advanced AIs brought there could, theoretically, start turning into deities too?
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>>44454180
>>44454203

I see.
I was thinking that since they can only exist cause of you feeding them and they are cast by a spell binding their existance to you that the companion rule dont apply.
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>>44454051
Last I heard they were doing the same stupidity Generic 3.5 has. Effectively you have to go build an entire starting character with few to no original perks, instead it's just a bunch of stuff copied from manuals with CP costs attached.
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>>44454267
If they were willing to become a satellite and brainwash the whole planet, maybe?
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So, Lightbringer!

Why's being colorblind so fucked? Is it because drafting doesn't work at all if you can't correctly perceive your color, or is it because relying on other people to point out the right color or brute forcing it too big of a handicap for people to even bother with them?

Is there anything I should know before I go in and start kicking every single hornet's nest I can find?

Why is the point where your halo becomes supercool and awesome the point where you fail the chain?

How big would my metaphorical dick be if I took all the colors and Light Splitter?

Is the Blinding Knife actually worth a damn?
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>>44454292
Don't mistake your nightmares for the waking world, anon.
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If you need quotes or inspiration Elonanon, this blog I just found is pretty awesome. Definitely Genius-y. http://www.northofreality.com/tales/2015/8/14/the-old-grind
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>>44454292
Megacorp dropped it and another anon picked it up. So your assumptions based on Megacorp's version (which didn't even intend that) are outdated now.
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>>44454321
Have you tried...not kicking honets' nests?
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>>44454321
>Is it because drafting doesn't work at all if you can't correctly perceive your color,
Yes. You need to see the color of light to do it. That's why they wear colored glasses. That's why being a prism who can split light is the best thing ever.
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>>44454420
Ah, cool, we might actually get a good jump then. I'm still salty about Forgotten Realms, especially since SD was apparently working on his own version when the Generic 3.5 jump came out of nowhere. Although what would be really amazing is a Planescape Torment jump or gauntlet. Planescape was a damn good setting and I'd love to see a jump of it.
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>>44454321
>Why is the point where your halo becomes supercool and awesome the point where you fail the chain?
Also this, is because when your halo breaks and your eye turns the color you draft, you go bugshit insane. The emotion the color promotes becomes uncontrollable and rapidly takes over your personality.
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>go to naruto
>have shapeshifting and cosmetic perks
>and, you know, centurian jumper power
"Jumper, how are you able to do so many amazing things?"
"It's simple.
"I have-
>morph fabulous design into eyes, if feeling particularly sueish make it rainbows
"THE SHENANIGAN."
>this is accepted as a perfectly comprehensive and reasonable answer for any and all jumper bullshit
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Did somebody mention choushin
slice of life
the other chousin one
supertech-mago-scientist
age 108
simple scientific solution
heavy weapon
jumper a and b
power glove
energy sword/energy pistol
jurian interface
trained in the old ways
technobabble fish
jailbreaker
badge and a weapon
accepted culture norms
subspace onsen
control cube
robot assistant
civilian savvy
super study buddy
your reputation precedes you
you'd have to be a jeweler
wings of the lighthawk
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>>44454568
...Welp, stealing that. Thanks.
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>>44454505
umm, The Red would like to have a word with you, he didn't let the colors take full control of him for YEARS
Also the BBEG guy that has all 7 colors and made himself out of Luxin perfectly, he's actually pretty sane from what I see.
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>>44454605
first one is willpower. Second, is because if seven colors break in your eye, then you're going to end up with a balanced personality. They counteract each other.
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>>44454430
...Okay. I can do that. I can find FUN to take part in through other ways.

>>44454436
Thank you. Seems I completely misunderstood how drafting worked. And also completely missed the color glasses in the Items section. I am on a goddamn roll.

>>44454505
Uh, that was more of a shitty joke than anything else. Changing the color of your iris is really boring and it felt appropriate with the short talk about special eyes earlier.


Maybe I should just read the damn books. The series seems cool.
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>>44454638
well yeah, but they're both proof you can avoid going completely fucking insane, also the very first drafter we meet isn't insane until he sees the light, so maybe if you wear dark glasses like Red had you'd be fine.
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>>44454644
I'd say wait on reading the books, the fourth one has been announced but it's not out yet, and I didn't even realize the third one had come out until I checked.
This is definitely a jump worth jumpin though.
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CATastrophe question:
It says companions purchased using Full Party can buy things using a pool of 300 CP, but can they take drawbacks?
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>>44455020
Companions can never take drawbacks unless explicitly said so.
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>>44455061
gotcha, thanks
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In all of your adventures...

Why haven't you bought a Sega Saturn?!
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>>44455337
who is to say I haven't?
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What's Problem Sleuth's power level?

How dangerous is it, and what can I expect to take on with what I get there?
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>>44455337
because I have an N64
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>>44455463
Well, towards the end people start tossing around universe-destroying attacks, but at the same time those attacks run on JRPG logic so you're not likely to actually be hurt by them unless you're the target. Immediately, anyway, they're genuinely universe-destroying and not just aesthetics, by the end of the series the fabric of space-time has been shredded all to hell. So don't fight Dark Matter Demonhead Mobster Kingpin, and don't wander into any rifts in space that form because of his attacks, and you'll probably be alright.
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>>44455463
At one point one of the bad guys becomes a black hole. Or at least, as dense as one.
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>>44455337
Because I stole it.
And all the other Saturns.
I am single handedly responsible for its market failure.
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>>44455463
Apparently candy is weapons-grade ammunition there.

Make of that what you will.
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>>44455620
Well, the main villain is diabetic.
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>>44455337
In my mortal years, it was simply before my time.

Now? I have no need of it. I need only the guidance of the Benefactor. She who wiped the layer of dust from my eyes and showed me the wonders of the multiverse - that I might cleanse the blots upon it in her name.

Praise her.
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>>44455635
The...sentient universe destroying black hole is diabetic?

Problem Sleuth eldritch abominations are weirder than I thought
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>>44455731
I mean, the guy who turned into the abomination was also diabetic, so it has precedent.

What makes less sense is why everything in the dream world is also weak to candy.
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>>44455638
Nigga if a multidimensional universe consisting of ninjas, bunny people, street fighters, knights, and a whole array of other shit like dancing aliens needs Sega Saturns, just play the fucking console mate.

>>44455546
Just buy a Saturn

>>44455597
Goddamnit Sony
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>>44455337
Man project X zone could make a fun jump...don't know how exactly that could work but I shall assume it would be handled how I handled Smash.

I have like 5 Sega Saturns now 2 of them are 'cursed' to enhance metal prowess. I even made new vidya for it!

Where the fug is Generic Videogame Designer jump?
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>>44455731
He eventually takes some insulin and it removes his sugar weakness. Instead he becomes weak to emotions. They defeat that stage of the boss fight by having Ace Dick tragically lose his wife and son and then commit suicide out of despair.
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>>44455847
Best boss fight EVER. Especially how they defeat his final stage: sick fucking insults.
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>>44455890
And the candy corn. Don't forget the candy corn finally getting to fulfill its purpose in life.
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>>44455847
>>44455775

So. Let me get this straight.

Candy can hurt black holes

Insulin removes your sugar weakness at the cost of making you vulnerable to other peoples' despair

And everything else in the dream world is also allergic to candy

Does this mean if you go to Changeling after you've visited Problem Sleuth, you can just pick up a sugar plum 'gat and bust a cap in some True Fae?
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>>44455844
Look dood, the Brave New World is just a BIT more complicated than that.

I mean there's actual plot and more games then just PXZ to account for.

I mean Namco X Capcom, Super Robot Wars OG Saga Endless Frontier and it's sequel EXCEED (yeah that's a mouthful and a half) and then finally Project X Zones 1 and 2.

Also there's like, a dimension travelling armored vehicle because that's how Shinra rolls, since yes there is an agency for this bullshit.


FUCKING CROSSGATES
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>>44455935
>candy corn has ambitions

What I'm taking from this is that Problem Sleuth and Changeling are just the same jump, but in Problem Sleuth you start deeeeep in Arcadia and never leave.
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>>44456023
It's a weird series, but entertaining. It's from back before Andrew Hussie wasn't burnt out from the obsessive fanbase Homestuck drew, and was writing his nonsense to be enjoyable rather than as some weird game of chicken with his audience.
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>>44456023
There's not nearly enough candelabras in Problem Sleuth for that.
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>>44455987
Oh yeah....
Now it makes it even BETTER jump fodder than I initially thought!
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>>44456127
Kingdom Hearts when.
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>>44456127
you.... may want to calm down before something silly happens dude. Like honestly this leaks over into super robot wars slightly (hence mentioning the Endless Frontier, which in itself is a dimensional mess and a half).


Look dude we're gonna have to like, talk this over before something wrong, bad, and Euzeth induced happens and then suddenly we have Adamatrons flying all over the place

No one wants Adamatrons flying all over the place
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zPNpbhpR5ZA
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>>44455987
That girl has a kistune for hair. What.
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>>44456127
>>44456204

Also this

JUST WORK ON ONE CROSSOVER CLUSTERFUCK AT A TIME.

THIS IS COMING FROM SOMEONE WHO CAUSED A CROSSOVER CLUSTERFUCK AND REALIZED IT WAS TOO MUCH
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what are some good jumps to get companions piloting skills? preferably space
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>>44456092
When will he just kill it so he can go back to smaller stuff he enjoys?
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>>44456238
She is a kitsune. That's how she chooses to show it instead of having fluffy tails.
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>>44456238
Xiaomu... actually is a kitsune so yeah, it makes sense?
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>>44456262
when the story is over
allegedly some time next year
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>>44456204
It's ded anon.

Just kidding it's still going just incredibly slowly. Me and Tophat are making progress. Just really really babby steps

>>44456228
Yes this is good. The more you show me the greater the desire.

>>44456250
I'm just hoping another anon will make a crossover clusterfuck.
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>>44456228
wot
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>>44456293
Nigga you literally dont understand crossgates. There is a legit reason why I had to specifically say in OG Jump that they dont work outside of the jump were you to drag one into your warehouse somehow.

OG 2ND'S FINAL BATTLE WAS ON THE CUSP OF THE DEATH AND REBIRTH OF THE UNIVERSE


>>44456306
Its complicated, but technically you dont need to know any of this but the tldr is Multiverse and Reincarnation and Rebirth.

And in the center of all this is Crossgates and keikakus and litearlly post spark tier mistakes in the making
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>>44456293
Just focus on your own shit before you start bitching at other people to do things, Spyro.

Finish your damn plate before bullying someone to take extra portions for you.
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>>44456293
Good luck. It won't happen. A single SRW game that isn't OG is hard enough to make a jump for. PXZ and related games are enough to kill any motivation a jumpmaker might have through sheer exhaustion alone.

You think jumps like Warhammer Fantasy are long? Just wait until you see what something like PXZ would be. You'd be lucky to fit it inside 300 pages.
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>>44456410
Don't be mean to the dragon.
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>>44456464
Being a dragon is no excuse.
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>>44456464
No, be mean to the dragon before mass produced evil gods and giants are unleashed

No im totally not referencing any form of CONCLUSION at all that is fucking nuts

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hm2mlxt87vM

Look i just want to not have a guy with zero knowledge dive headfirst into something really fucking huge
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>>44456410
I only wish to see at least one of them become a jump.

>>44456439
Perhaps if it's done slowly over the course of several months wouldn't kill motivation too harshly. KH is taking so long because me and Tophat are pretty busy with RL. Until now because I wasn't given work this week and my rent was paid. So I have complete free time for this week if my friends don't do anything stupid.
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>>44456535
>Perhaps if it's done slowly over the course of several months wouldn't kill motivation too harshly

I'll give you an example since you seem convinced it's a relatively simple matter of writing. SRW Z, the first chapter, had 22 series in it, each of their plots harmonized to make up different components of the overarching plot, which is in turn a subset of an even bigger storyline which spanned three games.

Each of these series alone could be made into a good sized jump. Each of them had movies, anime, manga, so forth for their individual plot lines. You might be wondering "well why are you mentioning SRW Z when Project X Zone only has 19 basic series and 15 expanded series, anon?"

Because SRW Z3's ending "sets" the Crossgate premise for Project X Zone and PXZ2. And guess what's linked to PXZ2? Endless Frontier. You won't be successful at all with trying to "tie it in" a single jump.

I'm presuming you've done your research and you understand the 12 Spheres of Z and how they affect the cosmology, as well as why the Geminion can perform multiverse jumps with the gate in the ending of Z, because if you don't even know that premise, you have a lot of research to do. And unlike Kingdom Hearts, most of the lore is going to be in Japanese, so better brush up on your Japanese reading skills.

Not even going to get into discussion of the wildly varying power standards and the effect of SG Advent after the 12 Sphere Reunion. We barely scraped through OG enough to make it into a jump, and OG is the closest you'll get to a jumpable standalone series coming from Banpresto. Probably shouldn't get into how people can easily exploit the Crossover series to grab powers and characters from existing jumps as well.
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>>44456775
Wow that's pretty complicated. I didn't mean to imply it would work as one fuckhuge jump. I mean that would be silly. That would be like asking if the Ivalice saga should be condensed into a single jump.
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>>44456858
...dude, you can do the damn thing if you want. Expecting someone to make multiple jumps over 100+ pages just for you is... I don't know. I think you're on your own, man.

This whole thing is fucking stupid.
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>>44456893
The stupidest part to me seems to be how upset and mean you are about it.
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hey when's that Undertale jump gonna be finished?
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>>44456893
I honestly don't get how upset you are over it. You're making it sound like you'll honestly go nuclear if someone where to make a jump about anything within this series in particular.

I'm not howling from the rooftops for several threads about this. I only asked about Project X Zone series of games in particular not the whole damn multiverse.
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>>44456983
never
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>>44456284
The only good thing to come out of Homestuck was Toby Fox's popularity.
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guys/galls, y'all are being easy as shit to troll. it is just one guy that has been pissy about everything that has happened for the past month+, because you all can't help but bitch at him for shit opinions. Just ignore him.
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>>44456858
It won't work as a set of jumps either. There are no "smooth splits" inside any of these settings. Z1 to Z3 had three different games because they were two different universes merged together, before another universe invaded. If you're at all surprised about this it's because you don't know the lore, and honestly, if you don't know the lore and decide to make the jump...well you're digging a really big hole for yourself to jump in.

Do you know why SRW OG was made via OG instead of say, Impact, or Alpha? Because we had things like Ideon and Demonsbane running about, and Antispiral was pretty much one of the key big bads. Guess what? They're still there in Frontier, just not on the foreground. Anybody with even that bit of knowledge over yours will be able to manipulate the jump just as the original SRW jump was manipulated to give Demonsbane. There's nothing to prevent a person from making something even worse, since multiverse travelling deities are a norm since Z.

The reason why SRW isn't mentioned on /jc/ much is both because people don't really know it well, and also because 90% of the content is locked behind moonrunes that people can't be bothered to translate. If you're offering to go and translate all of it by all means, but honestly, you're just stirring up more of a mess for yourself as you go through all the series/plots and figure out how they integrate.

PXZ, Frontier, SRW all work because they're standalone, and they had full teams to work on melding the stories and crafting new histories. Good luck changing that into a jump, cause honestly you're going to need it.

By the way, I don't consider it fuckhuge until it reaches 400 pages in size. Just sayin' fatty.
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>>44457064
Your paranoia is out of control.
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>>44457070
See >>44456917
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If I take analysis as my nasuverse origin would that make me have an obsession with reading and analyzing things ?
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>>44457092
>>44456917
>>44457014
Then do it yourself. Go ahead, if it's really so easy then go ahead and make it.

I'll be waiting.
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>>44457092
Not that anon but it is a bit annoying to basically have someone brush over the metric shittons of issues a setting based on crossovers in a universe of crossovers.

And im probably as tired as the guy you responded to about the whole deal


Look can we just talk about something else?
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>>44457140
Nobody is talking about doing it. They're saying that you're being an obsessive, hateful, and angry asshole over nothing.
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>>44457140
>I had a hard time so I'm going to attack anyone else who even bothers to suggest it, continuing to bitch at them until they bow down and suck my dick telling me I'm right and how horrible they were for suggesting it!
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>>44457121
Oh Perhaps knowledge, research, understanding, or even books.

>>44457140
>being this upset
I merely suggested the idea of it. Not even bothered claiming it. I have nothing to lose in this exchange. If it gets made, good. If not, oh well.
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>>44457092
Oh don't worry, if he wants to go and do it, at the end of the day I'll still cheer him on since he's doing the work. But I'm very aware that he doesn't know much of the lore behind the series at all, and I don't really see the point to just sit back and go "hehehe" as he realizes that he has to backtrack through Banpresto's retelling of Resident Evil, Tales of Series, Devil May Cry, and so forth thinking that he can pump out a jump after I dunno, a year? So seeing as I actually like the guy somewhat, I might as well explain to him the inherent difficulty of making the setting into a jump.

If I sound mean, it's because I don't see a point to mince words here about this. I haven't even gone into the more bullshit parts of PXZ, just the prologue so far.

By the way Spyro, it's not "the entire multiverse". We haven't begun mentioning the entire multiverse. NxC/PXZ/Frontier are all in the same decade span. Z is anywhere before, after, or in between that span since it's both time detached in some parts (Advent, Ji Adel, some other high deities) and simultaneously existing in all universes in others (Crossgate phenomena).
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>>44457155
>>44457172
Strawmanning much?
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>>44457229
Illiterate much? The guy is being really bitchy for no real reason, so don't complain that he's being called out on it.
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>>44457226
>I actually like the guy somewhat,
If you did you could try not being a huge asshole.
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>>44457267
Wait, so...in explaining to fattygon the inherent difficulty of making the jump and why no one has considered it thus far, I'm being an asshole? I'm guessing you don't go on IRC much, because this is pretty much the same way Spyro and I would interact on there. If he's personally offended he can find me himself.
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>>44457267
Wait. How is the anon explaining things being an asshole? Are we not allowed to explain anymore, just shrug and let people say whatever?

Are we just supposed to go "Spyro wants us to do something, guess we better do it" now?
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>>44457310
Hostile tone and harping on this for a dozen posts or so?
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>>44457251
>>44457267

We... are on 4chan right?

I mean seriously this doesnt even border true assholery you know that right.

Maybe we're coddling people too hard at this point
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>>44457329
I think virt is back though I don't know why virt would come to jc
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>>44457325
>>44457353
Hostile tones? Oh no, whatever the fuck do we do, someone's being mean on 4chan! Someone call the police!

We just spend 50 posts bitching at bancho, and before that we were bitching at a guy about pokemon. The hypocrisy here is fucking staggering.
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>>44457219
could construction be related to analysis ?I was thinking of a dual origin and thank you
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>>44457329
>>44457368
Maybe some people don't want this to degrade into the general where people will bitch at each other all thread and the next over something minor? We're GENERALLY better than that. Just because 4chan has assholes on it has never meant that you personally need to be a shithead.
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>>44457368
Don't even bring up the hypocrisy, we already know how bad it is. People will find ways to justify bitching when it suits their purposes.
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>>44457391
>We're GENERALLY better than that.
>wheredoyouthinkweare.jpg
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>>44457353
Why would someone known for the goal of pissing people off sperg about giant robots? You're not making sense.

>>44457391
Except people are bitching about bitching and that just leads to an endless loop of suppossed good intentions turning hypocritcal
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>>44457410
Probably been here longer than you. This thread has been particularly bad, but most of our arguments don't last that long or get that severe. They really don't. And they're less common than they used to be too.
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>>44457267
He's being a little passionate about what he's put clearly hours into looking into. He could have easily put it in a far more inflammatory tone. And I could have equally been as shit stirring in return.

He's not being mean he's laying down the facts. Which I appreciate because I'm learning the true depth of such a setting.

To be quite honest I only wanted PxZ's little saga to be made into jumps just so I can travel along with a bunch of my favorite weeb vidya heroes. Besides whether it was easy or hard to do wouldn't matter as I already have other jumps to make. And I don't intend on filling my plate that is already too full to begin with.

>>44457384
>construction
Hmm I doubt it. If you had said Technology maybe. Research to Construction would be a better connection. As those two are the split terms version of Technology. Using research to apply to the world around you in a way.
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>>44457447
You got that beaten wife syndrome going on now man. Christ.
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>>44457427
>>44457429
Yeah, on that note.

Suppose I were to try and build a mako reactor on other worlds, would there be any major differences in the materia harvested?

I'm thinking of explicitly magic lifeforceless worlds like the Wormverse, or super magical ones like Discworld, or just places where shit be whack like Magi's world.
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>>44457457
And exactly what does your observation add to the discussion?

...

I just realised.

I am now complaining about you complaining about someone else because of someone else's complaints of them, which is productive in making this thread unproductive.

We have truly hit some hitherto unplumbed level of Saltception not usually seen outside of CYOA gen.
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Since I took Procession of the Damned and Warmaster in Magical Girl Noir, what exactly do I need to know/be capable of to ensure that my Officio don't get wrecked on our first mission?

All I remember is that Walpurgisnacht is worse than the one in the Madoka and bloodletters are everywhere.
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>>44457511
We need to go deeper.
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>>44457447
thanks spyro
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What are the best ways to train in the use of the Force, both light and dark?
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>>44457520
It's been a while, but-I think kanons mentioned Evil Homura gets involved?

>worse than the one in Madoka

I haven't kept up with MGNQ so I'm not sure how that's possible, but that's horrifying

>>44457522
I'd really rather we didn't
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>>44455337
Because I was the dumbass who bought a 32x instead.
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>>44457553
>light

Sit around in the Dagobah swamplands, meditating
Don't have sex
Put a blindfold on your head and try to hit a hovering drone with a lightsaber

>dark
Kill sand people
Kill the younglings
Basically act like Joffrey
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>>44457553
Balance the force, or everything is FUCKED
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>>44457457
Anon please this is 4chan. Being crude and punctual about things is its style. Granted that doesn't mean we can't have civilized discussion. But both can happen easily with no one getting their feelings hurt, just gotta have a thicker skin.

It's called banter anon. Can't handle it fuck off faggot Not really please stay


>>44457474
Perhaps other sources of energy. Like radiation materia from Godzilla or something like that. And perhaps actual spirit energy materia, cosmic energy materia. Shit would get really esoteric if you make it better at processing foreign or faint energies in the universe. You would essentially be like KH levels of weird. Like emotion based materia or materia made of hunger energies or something like that.
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>>44457522
We need to complain harder.
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>>44457553
Completely repress all of your emotions.
Meditate.

Get really angry at everything except the person you love, who you love as hard you can. Yandere levels minimum.
Shoot lightning regularly.
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>>44457554
>>44457520
The force that fought WPGN was taken from all over the world, the force in Japan was at least company-strength, and there were 6-7 other battles happening elsewhere all those turned out to be against fakes, essentailly
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>>44457617
I am walking away from the computer, Spyro.

Try and stop me.
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>>44457637
>shoot lightning regularly

What if, initially, anon doesn't know how to shoot lightning for some reason?
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>>44457662
ANON DON'T GO. I'M SORRY I SAID MEAN THINGS I WAS JUST PROVIDING AN EXAMPLE.
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>>44457686
You hate someone until lightning shoots out.
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>>44457693
TOO LATE

I'M POSTING FROM MY PHONE, WHICH I AM ABOUT TO THROW DOWN A WELL
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What would you get a kraken for its birthday, /jc/?
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I heard you guys had questions about something?
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If you can use genetic fuckery to become a Pillar Man in the JoJo jump, are you allowed to take the mask and become the ultimate being?
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>>44457739
Mittens.
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>>44457742
Someone asked some lightbringer stuff above.

>>44457757
yes
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>>44457719
NOOOOO
DON'T GO!
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>>44457757
...allowed?

Er, what d'you mean? Assuming you can somehow become a Pillar Man that ought to work, yes. Really, it's whether you can splice into fabulous swoleness that you should be concerned with.

>>44457739
A smaller birthday kraken to eat
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>>44457777
I don't suppose you mind linking it for me? I have a new phone and I have no idea how to use the damn thing to be honest.
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>>44457787
>Really, it's whether you can splice into fabulous swoleness that you should be concerned with
My idea for getting around that was performing a head transplant with Santana, then using a targeted retrovirus and alpha-level Biomancy to scrub out the rest of my human DNA.
Probably won't work, but whatever.
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>>44454321
>>44457818
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>>44457757
You need to find Kar's mask and the Red Stone of Aja (The good one, not one of the many copies) to become an ultimate being then.
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So /jc/, What would be needed to eat a god and gain it's power?
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>>44457947
Ketchup. Lots of ketchup.
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>>44457947
Some digestion tablets, and a very durable commode. Something nobody ever talks about in the deiovore business: The literally unholy shits.

Blacksmith gods clog you up for decades, years if you're lucky. War gods sometimes cut a bloody swathe through your colon on the way down; just ask Kronos when he tried to eat Kratos. Don't even ask what happens when you eat a deity of love.
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>>44457947
A perk that says you can.
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>>44457884
Thanks, and sorry for the inconvenience.
>>44454321
1) You have to be able to see a color to draft it.

2) Even a fairly sedate jumper can job the setting power wise, but some of the characters have batman level of plotting bullshit.

3) Because you go insane. It also very neatly prevents you from becoming a literal god now that I think about it.

4) You could be the next wizard-pope if you play your cards even moderately well. Think of the catholic church when it more or less ruled Europe for the scope of that.

5) I believe I wrote it so you can make people go blind and to create full spectrum polychromes. So if you have companions or armies, it's really, really good.
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>>44457992
welp, there goes my sides.
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>>44457947
Dark Binding

Not that it's that hard to reach god-level by yourself just by jumping a lot, though
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>>44457947
Well, I kinda had to deal with Hatshut, the god of the chaos dwarves in Warhammer Fantasy.

I didn't actually like... masticate and swallow him, what I did was re-create Gleipnir, the magical ribbon from the viking sagas, to help hold him down while I did everything else (he's already half chained, just that hes starting to break loose) as well as using SCP-170 superglue to fix the chains that are breaking.

Next, I used my FMAlchemy to synthesize Vanadium-Adamantium-Gundanium Chains, and Octiron-Etherlite Drain Circuits. I also sapped away at him with subjugated Life Fibers. Once those were in place, I proceeded to use Naruto Wood Release Jutsu to begin draining the god's energy.

Really though, all of that was a ploy to drain him until he was weak and I had a lot of spare power handy. That's when we inscribed a big ol transmutation circle around where he's bound.

Why you ask? Well, to turn him (and by extension the Chaos Dwarves) into a massive, dense philosopher's stone. I didn't actually know it'd get all the chaos dwarves too, when I set out to do it, but from what I understand now of warhammer cosmology, their god was a dick, and they were dicks, and nobody's really going to miss them, so I'm not too upset. My judgement might've been a little tainted by draining this guy though, it's not the cleanest of energies.

Philosopher Stone to do Flame Alchemy, which in turn is consumed via Dragon Slayer magic. Now all that god energy is yours. Hope you can deal with it. It helps to be like eight kinds of lower-g-god already.
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Would that perk from SCP that makes you immune to forgetting let you keep your memories after dying and being saved by Generic Dungeon Crawl Savescumming or
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>>44458160
I wouldn't think so. GDC Savescumming would be literally rewinding you to a previous state. It's not just a mental failing, you literally do not have the memories stored in your mind any longer, because they never happened for you to remember.
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>>44457757
Confirmed by JoJo way back in the day as a viable method, so yes.
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what kind of spells and magecraft and possibly if it needs to be related to your origin reality marble would the origin research and development entail I mean I get the academic portion of it but for combat uses im drawing a lotta blanks
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Speaking of Jojo someone should really make that Stand suppliment
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>>44458214
You can't. You are not allowed to touch someone elses jump without their permission.
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>>44458038
Thank you.
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>>44458202

I can think of two possibilities for combat uses from research and development (assuming dual origin)

1. Combat clairvoyance. Although you would probably have more normal clairvoyance stuff.

2. None. Instead you have normal spells you developed do to using your research and development stuff to research and develop them.
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>>44458226
Does not apply in this situation since it is impossible to get permission and the supplement will never be made by the original author.
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Ignore the idiot. For god's sake do not respond to the obvious troll.
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>>44458309
Nope. It applies in all situations. Fuck off. Find Jojo and get permission or it's not allowed.
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How do Stands work if you have a Persona or Hunger Demon anyway? D'you get 2 punch ghosts, or 1 punch ghosts that has 2 powersets? If they're the sentient kind of punch ghost, would they try to fight each other?

>>44458344
See >>44458324
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>>44458344
Rules are not static and context must be considered, It is clear that Jojo will never make the stand supplement and it is stupid to just leave the jump half-finished because you want to zealously follow your precious rules.
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>>44458380
You can fuse Personas and Stands.

Used to be that way with Hunger Demons but didn't some revelations about their true nature change that?
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>>44449161
Cyborg Dragon. It's my favorite but least used form because it's overkill 9 times out of 10.

My most used alt-form is my horrible chimera of a Zoanthrope form. I use it as my general "battle form" and when I'm posing as an alien or critter no one has heard of before.
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>>44458253
Anytime. Well, anytime my boss isn't looking over my shoulder at least.
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>>44458380
You get multiple Punch Ghosts, and it's up to personal stuff to get the rest.

>>44458402
Yeah, although Toriko-Anon has come out and stated that your Hunger Demon will not go Gourmet Satan on your ass. So that's up in the air.

>>44458391
Alright, counterpoint. How the fuck do you stay objective in a Stand Supplement and ensure that the JJBA-Universe's fucking wild, wide-ass array of potential Stand abilities and uses are equally represented, and on top of that how do you prevent bullshit like Golden Experience Requiem?

Do you even have the slightest clue on how one could be made, or do you want someone else to make one for you so that you don't have to think about these details?
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>>44458434
>ou get multiple Punch Ghosts
Or one with both powers.
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>>44458434
Dude. Dude.

Stop trying to logic him, he's just cruisin' for a rusin'

>>44458324

That said, I totally agree with you.
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>>44458038
>>44458253
An addendum to 1)Oh, and some religious purists will think pretty poorly of you because you see less of god. Light is a pretty big deal in setting. If you're completely blind you may well get treated like a leper.
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>>44458452
Eh, again. Personal rules, depends on the person.

That's honestly part of what makes discussion so fucking difficult here - you have everybody running their own ruleset with maybe minor overlap, or major overlap, or any overlap at most. Buuuut I'm going on a tangent so I'mma stop now.


On a note for the Punch Ghost stuff - wasn't it verified a while back you could do the same with the swordghostthingamajig from Bleach? Zanpaktu I think it's called?
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Alright boys, my years of pirating are over, I spent the past 10 jumps with a pirate theme, I need a new theme for the next 10, what should I go with?
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>>44458508
The jumpmakers said it was okay though.
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>>44458510
Online piracy.

Or, well, hacking or something.
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>>44458510
ninja
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>>44458510
Old Prohibition-Era Gangster.
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>>44458434
>Do you even have the slightest clue on how one could be made
I really haven't though about it much, since the topic at hand is not HOW but SHOULD, but I suppose if I was making it I'd try to make broad catagorizations of different types of abilities that could be displayed, such as relatively "normal" stands like Silver Chariot or Magician Red whose abilities are pretty straightforward, stands like Stone Free or Sticky Fingers that have a flexible gimmick, and at the upper end of costs more esoteric and conceptual abilities. Of course also an area to spend points on range, power, durability, etc. and maybe an option to change the Stand into an Ability Stand
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>>44458510
Why not Gravity?
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>>44458508
I don't understand Bleach and what little I know of it fills me with revulsion and disgust so I've basically never used anything I acquired from Bleach jump deliberately.
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>>44458534
Could work, plenty of stuff for it.
>>44458545
Hell no, fuck ninjas
>>44458549
I like this, I like this a lot, but afaik there's no jumps for it.
>>44458558
...I don't get it, just collect as many gravity powers as possible or something?
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>>44458574
Precisely. As many as possible.
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>>44458562
Bleach is honestly fine once you get to the end of the Aizen arc. Y'know, where it was MEANT to end.

Past that it becomes a fucking Eldritch mess dredged from the mad mind of Kubo.

>>44458574
Dude, we have a Mob jump that's perfect for this.

At least, it gives you a start. After that you have to start organizing your own gangster activities in later jumps.

>>44458558
>Boing
>Boing
>Boing

Madame. Contain thy mammaries.
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>>44458287
how would combat clairvoyance work off that?
and so that means I could study and develop all types of magecraft and after a long while new stuff all together
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>>44458596
what's it called so I can find it, just ctrl+f "mob"?
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>>44458597
>Study and develop all types of magecraft
No, that's very much overestimating how big a benefit origins grant.
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>>44458596
Bleach is best pre-soul society.
Bleach is okay during soul society.
Bleach afterwards until Aizen is bad, but in that enjoyably bad way you can still watch.
Bleach beyond that has few redeeming qualities. I like the zombie trap though.
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>>44458606
nevermind, found it, SWEET, mafia boss mode, here I come!
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>>44458619
Okay y'know what, summed it up better than I could have.

>>44458606
Yeah'p. A sorta generic middle ground of movies like Eastern Promises, The Godfather, and other 'Crime' movies.
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Quick question.

What's the maximum and minimum amounts of bullshit Malleable Reality could apply to Pyrokinesis? Because I just realized in my Word Doc I never thought of an ability regarding that and feel like a right doofus.
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>>44458612
but its called research and development I didn't say id magically get it I just said it as a possiblility if I spent enough time and effort into something
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>>44458675
Origins give minor boosts. What you're talking about is something that a Noble Phantasm (A low ranked one yes but still) has as it's main effect.
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>>44458675
Honestly dude, Origins are more about spell affinity rather than any major ability focus, plus you can better make things related to that Origin (like Kiritsugu's bullets made from his bones invoking his Origins).
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>>44458690
so all I would do Is be able to study and invent really well but not in the magical or conceptual aspects ?
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>>44458662
I think I asked Reploid this ages ago, actually.

As I recall-minimum stuff is briefly mentioned in the jump, I believe. Turn into fire. Mould solid fire into objects, give fire mass.

As for maximum-I recall stuff like headsploding someone from a mile away, ripping all the heat out of a localised area to freeze it and wrecking havoc with anything that has a combustion engine. Quite possibly, you could also create plasma more quickly than Accelerator tried when he was only just trying to flex his powers.
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>>44458732
You'd get a bit more talented at studying and like doing it basically. Maybe be a bit better at casting spells that help that sort of thing.
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>>44458719
oh I always thought they were more important in like it one of the things that drive you
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>>44458732
Spell affinity.
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>>44458769
It's only important if you wake it up or if it syncs with another aspect of yourself, like with Shirou.
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>>44458769
That's if you partially or fully Awaken it. Which, Awakening your origin. IS NOT A GOOD IDEA.
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>>44458769
They're free for a reason. Everyone human in Nasuverse as one but not everyone is some uber prodigy in one particular field or even obsessive about one particular thing. It's a minor thing that influences you a little and makes certain things a bit easier.
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>>44458745
And as I pray unlimited memory partition works
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>>44458788
what happens when you awaken your origin shouldn't that be a good thing?>>44458771
>>44458781
>>44458788
>>44458795
thanks
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>>44458820
If you Awaken your Origin, it dominates and erases EVERYTHING ELSE, is the thing.

You lose all identity and personhood and become just a living idea of that Origin.
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>>44458160
Drawbacks always surpass perks. So if a perk says "you always remember" and a drawback says "you always forget", then the drawback takes precedence.
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>>44458837
ohh that's bad I don't wanna go mad scientist
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>>44458820
>>44458837
>>44458865

The guy who managed it in canon turned into a supernaturally strong and fast drug addict with poisonous saliva and a vore fetish. He could shrug off losing limbs. He also went yandere for both Shiki and her boyfriend.

He had the Origin of Consumption, which Touko associated with big cats.
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>>44458889
that's lovely.
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What're the best ways of evading scrying, /jc/?
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>>44458597

>how would combat clairvoyance work off that?

Research is basically a form of information gathering. So research based spells would be spells based on gathering information. Most research based magic probably falls under the category of divination a.k.a. clairvoyance.

Even something like a spell meant to analyze something would count as a form of divination.

As for how to get it to the combat point the idea I had was basically 'figure out enough information gathering spells and get good enough at them to use them in a fight'.

For example make a 'spell to predict a persons next action' and use that to know where their going to strike, and then counter attack before their done. Alternatively develop a spell to 'see' where their least likely to expect an attack from, and than attack from there.

>and so that means I could study and develop all types of magecraft and after a long while new stuff all together

I was thinking more 'your good at studying and being a magus is basically being a spellcasting nerd'.

>>44458612
>>44458675
>>44458690

Although technically speaking this is something any magus can do for non freak of nature spells.

Your however unlikely to get those just from something like this.

>>44458769

It is, but it doesn't become obsessive unless you do something really really stupid, and decide to awaken it.

>>44458820

Basically it goes like this

Origin = base factor the rest of the soul is based around. May or may not be relevant beyond some minor hard to notice stuff.

A.k.a in your example your probably better at studying and making stuff, but unlikely to be superhumanly so.

Partially Awakened - Your really good at studying and making stuff, and have a compulsion to do so.

Fully Awakened - Your supernaturally good at studying and making stuff, and have absolutely no ability to even try to not do so. Basically think less 'super prodigy' and more "Turn your family into a corpse candelabra because you had an idea'


>>44458769
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>>44458931
Kwisatz Haderach Candidate from Dune.
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>>44458662
Take out armies by raising their internal temperatures until they pass out from heatstroke.

You'd be better served looking at what other espers can do and extrapolating from there, because when it comes down which fire manipulation power is the best in the chain, Raildex Pyrokinesis is fairly handily beaten out by several others available to you in Jumpchain. Here are some alternative options:

Marvel Pyrokinesis (it isn't nearly as limited)

Smoke Conduit (they get more powerful with time)

LoSS Dragon element: Fire (grows more powerful with time)

Inukami Kitsune Element: Fire (grows more powerful with time)

Fairy Tail: Fire demon/dragon/godslayer magic (become immune to fire, eat it to regain strength)

AtlA + Korra: Firebender x2 (double up on Genius and all the ability enhancing perks)

The only thing Raildex Pyrokinesis has over these powers is finesse. Still, some jumps have even better options for fine fire manipulation:

Codex Alera: Fire Furies (get the furycrafting enhancing perks, and then grab as many Fire Furies as you can)

Captain Planet: Fire Element (get the ring and Utility Band for fine work, then pick up any upgrade perks you find interesting)


Raildex esper abilities (barring unique situations) tend to top out around destroying a city block. Unless you want to permanently trade sanity for some extra power.
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>>44458934
what is peoples obsession with candelabras ? and thank you for the info dump teach
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>>44459008
It all started with Changeling: the Lost.
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>Candelabras
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>>44459008
It started with an anon saying something about Changeling the Lost as a jump. Along the lines of "And then you got raped into a candelabra."

And then someone realized JoJo SBR, people got forcefully converted into dinosaur-themed candelabras.

And then SMT realizations with Satanic Candelabras.

Candelabra is now associated with 'fate worse than death.'
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>>44459008

In my case it was 'running out of room in the post' so use a reoccurring jump meme to save space.
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>>44459056
you legit made me tear up oh that's funny
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Are any of your Companions in relationships with each other?
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>>44459286
All love is mine.
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>>44459286
Yes.

It's very complicated.
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>>44459320
Tell me more.
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>>44459286
It's kind of tangled.
Lexington is with me.
The sisters of battle are in love with Lexington. They also have absolute faith in me, somehow.
Falco is with the leader of the Dust Rats who I keep forgetting the name of. They have a kid.
Roberta and Chimmy are fuck-buddies.
Roberta is looking for "the one" but settles for "the rest" during her search.
Chimmy would find three ways to fuck a signpost if he found one late at night.
Ko'el has a wife on the Light of Terra.

Anyway, back to writing words.
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>>44459286
Yep, most of the long-term group has paired up comfortably.
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>>44459365
You know the high school stereotype of "A wants to fuck B, but B only has eyes for C. Though C wants the D and so on?" Yeah, it's like that. Except in this case, A also kinda hates B.
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>>44459286
Amusingly, no! Though I had a relationship with one for a while, other than that... well, it's been interesting in many respects, but no long term (multi-decade) relationships.

I encourage them to not turn down the prospect of relationships during jumps, but after a certain amount of time, I notice they've kind of stopped doing that. It is kind of unfortunate, though understandable.
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>>44459286
Yes, and having a mental connection with three of them makes it fucking unbearable at times with the amount of mushiness that goes through it at times, and dear god when they get rutting I want to scrub my brain just to block it out.

No I'm not bitter.
Not at all.

...
...
Why do they get to be happy and why can't I help but be glad that they're happy while I can't find the one.
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>>44459435
Jump sekirei as a sekirei and buy a sekirei as your Ahsikabi. Congrats on finding the one.
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>>44459435
Because you're doing it to yourself because for some reason you get off on this.
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>>44459286
Yes.
I have that one perverted Argonian guy who essentially acts as a warrior trucker . He's currently in a relationship with Red a former villain from Spyro:Classic their relationship is ...odd. I mean I can understand Reds iffy behavior around a as of now 300k year old warrior who pretended to be 10-13 year old dragon while trying to get you into bed with them. He's just rather new to the whole jumping thing.

Charisma the charizard scientist is currently with me. He's got his work cut out for him having to put up with an oversized manchild of a dragon for several millennia. We've been together from the very early parts of our adventures. He's went mad with knowledge once or twice and is responsible for my ever growing form that still has no cure as of yet. But he's been faithful and wonderful support.

Malefor strangely hasn't been in a relationship yet. Sure he's dated but he's so stilted and awkward he kinda ruins it. Especially since he refuses to stop looking like something straight out of villain school of design 101 classes. He'll find his special one some day.

Zelious the god of the skies is currently dating my Demonic Secretary AKA FIREBRAND. It's been a rather strange with all the arguments between the two. But in the end they get along. They're surprisingly promiscuous for a group that is essentially the face. But hey can't really blame them.

There are more but those are just the major ones I like talking about.
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>>44459531
>Malefor
How did you get that guy to stop being a villain?
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>>44459563
Barely managed to save him from getting his shit pushed in during Ravenloft. Kinda proving I truly do care about him and am willing to be his friend no matter how powerful he gets. It kinda...broke him.

Ravenloft LOVED pushing his buttons and making me suffer by extension because of it. Whether he fell to darkness again and turned on his friends. Or he brightened up and our friendship became stronger would have equally entertained them. And thank heavens it was the latter rather than the former.

Since then I've been treating him the exact opposite Konatanon has been treating him. To the point he actually has a grail wish and omnicompetence from Axe Cop.
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