A lot of people complain about courting monsters being magical

>>44357273
>A lot of people complain about courting monsters being magical realm

I never realized how much that phrase has in common with "I'm not racist, but" until now.
Literally anything you say after it is guaranteed horseshit.

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>>44357273
I don't think it's so much the courting of monsters that everyone considers to be magical realm, I think it's whenever the female monsters in question always just happen to look like fuckable porn stars.

>>44357273
Need to have a human genitals.

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>>44357317
>porn stars
9/10 times they look disgusting, but maybe I just don't understand the appeal of plastic clowns.

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>>44357273
The problem with monster girls is they're often more girl than monster.

>>44357366
>mantis woman
Anon they usually eat their own males, you aren't a date you're dinner.

>>44357273
This is very similar to the logic cow- and sheepfuckers down at the farms would use to rationalize.

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>>44357396
That does change the definition of a dinner-date.
Inb4 insect internet defense force and spider internet defense force

Oh, it's total magical realm all the way through. That's why it's great.

The real issue, I say, is that it's too one-sided! We need sexy monster-boys to even it out!

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>>44357396

>>44357396
Nah anon, that info got spread from a few experiments where being observed made the females stressed and aggressive, or their handlers plain didn't feed them properly. Its actual frequency is still up for debate and probably isn't all that high.

The more magical realm bit is that the male will often offer himself as a meal purposely post-coitus, to improve the chances of his offspring surviving.

>>44357414
That is why I said human genitals.

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>>44357414
>The real issue, I say, is that it's too one-sided! We need sexy monster-boys to even it out!

I know you were half kidding, but I seem to notice that most of the male-monster-on-female-human art I see, the male monster can look like, well, a hideous monster. And people will get off on it. Even the women.

>>44357450
I think it's because (straight) men don't particularly care about the aesthetic of monster dudes fucking some random hot chick, they're getting off on looking at the chick.

While I'm armchair psychoanalyzing things, my assumption is that women into monster/damsel shit is mostly just the context of being overpowered and plays into any rape and/or bestiality fetishes, which aren't too strange for a weeb girl to have.

I still say we genderswap more shit until the feminists win and my /rr/ threads aren't considered /d/ mateiral anymore.

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>>44357489
>/rr/ threads
Your what?

>>44357423
I love this doujishi.

>>44357273
Well if you think that elfs and orcs are considered "monster girls" you can already prove that with all the half-breeds around

>>44357499
I think he means reverse rape, or girls forcing themselves upon men.

>>44357562
But reverse rape would just be consensual no sex.

>>44357317
thats kind of the point

>>44357450

Because it's hot. It's the appeal of fucking something that's just raw animal lust, that's very male. It's like the appeal of interracial pornography, when a tribal savage or a black thug is raping a white woman. It's being fucked by something that isn't too complicated, that only cares about sex.

For a guy, it's about watching a woman being degraded, or the glee of watching the girl get fucked senseless. It's about meaningless but red-hot sex, and you don't even have to call him in the morning. It's even better that it's so, so wrong.

>>44357499
>>44357562
>>44357573
Role reversal, guys. Your ideas are fun, too, but it stands for Role Reversal.

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>>44357366
There's no problem. Different strokes for different folks.

What IS a problem is that monster girl in question almost always has no personality beyond "muh kawaii anime waifu".

also lack of monsterdudes. No, not monsterboys, someone who doesn't make the other party look like a pedo.

>>44357582
So fucbois?

>>44357414
>>44357450
>>44357489
A big part of it is that a handsome but vulnerable male character really isn't going to wind the crank of most girls too effectively, so the reverse doesn't do much. Not to mention that women just plain aren't as graphically stimulated as men.

There's also that monster "girls" are very often monster "women," and oozing feminine charm all over the place, but monster "boys" don't really inspire much confidence in them being intent on ferociously ravishing the hapless nerd girls they happen upon.

Not to mention that the majority of straight women are fairly bisexual and probably likely to enjoy a monstergirl partner anyway...

>>44357590
>someone who doesn't make the other party look like a pedo.
My incubus folder disagrees with you.

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>>44357626
>straight women are fairly bisexual

>>44357590

Why monsterdudes? I mean, women would rather be fucked by powerful male monsters. The closest I've ever come to that were Incubi, which I always depicted as male underwear models with bat wings. The kind of guy you know, without a doubt, is bad for you - But you want to fuck him anyway because he's fucking hot. Even the obvious Chad-ness is even more of a turn-on.

>>44357640
I think he meant women are more confident in their sexuality than men are.

For example: Ask two straight men to strip completely naked and then hold hands. They will tell you to fuck off or at the very least be very weirded out by it. Now as two straight women to strip naked and hold hands - now provided there's a reason you want them to do that (art photography, sorority hazing, comedy sketch on YouTube) they won't complain as much if at all. Whereas two dudes would put up a bigger objection no matter what reason you gave them.

Monstergirls are shit to begin with.
Cosplaying teens subsisting on semen.
How can you be attracted to them?

I'd rather bone the actual monster.

>>44357692
>Ask two straight men to strip completely naked and then hold hands
I'd do it.

>>44357728
Fag.

>>44357640
>>44357692
No, I mean fairly bisexual as in "finds members of the same sex fairly attractive," quite separate from confidence in your own sexuality. I was in an all male Army platoon that more than confident in its own sexuality, I can tell the difference.

>>44357742
Y-you too

>>44357670
>Why monsterdudes?

>The closest I've ever come to that were Incubi, which I always depicted as male underwear models with bat wings. The kind of guy you know, without a doubt, is bad for you - But you want to fuck him anyway because he's fucking hot. Even the obvious Chad-ness is even more of a turn-on.

You... just answered your own question?

>>44357704
>Cosplaying teens subsisting on semen.
>How can you be attracted to them?

I don't know, female primary and secondary sexual characteristics for starters?

Though jizz-pires are probably too prurient of a concept for a normal RPG, I favor the idea of various more "humanoid" versions of monsters in general, serving certain niches.

>>44357704
That's the worst definition, though.

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>>44357704
>teens subsisting on semen.

>>44357791
That seems pretty shallow.

>>44357273
>if monstergirls existed
But they don't, and the only reason a GM would choose to have them exist in his game world is to indulge tiresome sexual fantasies.

>>44357853
>That seems pretty shallow.

That male heterosexuality tends to involve being attracted to female primary and secondary characteristics? Not buying it.

>>44357875
Plenty of other reasons, actually. I've included lots of female monsters in campaigns (non ERP related) and I've noticed that players tend to be more engaged by them.

>>44357413
KEK

5 star post anon.

>>44357319
No they don't. All they need is a hole or something they can stick in a hole.

>>44357956
Ponyfuckers go back to your containment board.

>>44357338
My only real problem with MonMusu (the show, anyway, haven't read the manga) is that the only characters with breasts that aren't gigantic blobs of constantly quivering flesh are the obvious loli-bait characters, or a few of the Mon Squad character that barely ever show up. Fuck me for being attracted to more realistic proportions, I guess?

>>44357977
I find this to be a problem with Japan as a whole.

>>44357984
You can find medium sized breasts.

>>44357984
Nah, there are plenty of shows that have more realistically proportioned characters. Not all of them have this problem, but MonMusu is the only real monster-girl show I've seen, so it being the only option makes the problem more of an issue than it would otherwise be.

>>44357273
MONSTERGIRLS ARE GAY, that's why young, healthy, redblooded men shouldn't be attracted to them.
Straight men are attracted to women, you know, human women. When they stop being human, it stops being normal heterosexuality. You can't stick monster features on a girl and say it's still straight just like you can't stick a dick or other male features on a girl and say it's still straight.

>>44358229
You seem a bit confused. It is indeed heterosexuality to be attracted to female characteristics on a female creature. There's not much room for interpretation on that front. It -might- be deviance, depending on the setting's cultural norms, but its not a new form of pathological sexuality.

If someone just slapped a horse cock on a girl and said "hey she's a horse monstergirl" then that might be a bit odd.

>>44357292
Are you trying to imply racism has no merit anon?

>>44358264
He just said his beef are with people who deny the truths of racism.

>>44358277
It seemed he was on the side of the phrase being horsehit.

>>44357273
Having interspecies relationships isn't the magical realm part.

Desinging the entire species around sticking your dick in it is the magical realm part.

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>>44358333
No bully.

>>44358425
Yes bully.

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>>44358333
>>44358425
The funny part is that I've known a lot of grills that like to role play as those races. Being eye candy for the mens holds a different appeal for both genders.

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I don't know what's going on in this thread, but best girl, coming through.

>>44358488
Or maybe they focus on different aspects if they don'tt want to fuck it.

You don't get magical realms because of the ideas you use, but because of the execution of those ideas.

>>44358507
What about succubi?

>>44358425
With horns like those, she's pretty bully herself.

>>44358519
Vampires where sexual aspects are more obvious. If you want you can play them as asexual demons that only use the sex to lower the victims defense to drain the soul more easily.
Or you treat them as cursed beings who need to be carefull not to kill their lovers by draining everything of their live force.
Or they are decievers and tricksters who tempt those of pure heart with ever more exotic pleasures to turn them into willing servants of evil.

You can use sexual themes in fiction for other things than getting your audience off.

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>>44358612
You have good taste, sir.

>>44358565
Damn it Carlos

Dunno, I always saw it a little differently. Aside from sexual predators, (i.e. monster wants to fuck you for sustenance, rather than for pleasure or procreation,) I always thought that any setting that had both traditional monsters and monster girls (and boys) was based on the premise that monster girls (and boys) were the (races of) monsters that made themselves look human because they weren't capable of getting any monster nookie... because let's face it, humans are easy.
One of my favorite jokes while DMing in D&D is that on the mortal plane, humans are known as the town whore... Practically anyone who wants to gets a chance. I mean, half-elves, half-orcs, half-gnomes, dragonborn, tieflings, centaurs... The joke practically writes itself.

>>44357273
>If monsterpeople existed in a sexualised form where they're perfectly (or at least very) compatible with humanity in every way imaginable (diet, climate, culture, often breeding, attractiveness/anatomically etc) because they're designed to be so, then what reason is there stopping them from being fuckbait for humanity? If anything they're PERFECTLY suited for this role because they were DESIGNED for it.

People aren't saying that monstergirls as you've expressed them wouldn't be fuckbait, they're saying making monstergirls that way is creating them to be fuckbait. So you've already lost the 'but it makes sense' argument since it only makes sense because they were designed to be that way, it's not like they evolved naturally, the way you're representing them is deliberately engineered to make them as waifu-fuckbait-able as possible.

Which is fine, whatever. Just don't pretend it's some sudden universal truth or enlightenment that everyone else is missing. You want sexy monsters in your games, you're inserting your fetishes, if everyone is ok with that then do it, if not then don't.

>>44358255
>If someone just slapped a horse cock on a girl and said "hey she's a horse monstergirl" then that might be a bit odd.
"If."

>>44357977
>>44358010

Lala is a surprisingly well-proportioned character considering what the rest of the Darling harem looks like, she's got wide shoulders and some fairly modest clothing so her E-Cups actually look reasonable.

Liz is another girl with realistic proportions.

The rest are, as you said, loli bait or titty monsters.

>>44360820
The harpy is ok.

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Mero is cute! CUTE!

>>44358229
No different to wanting to fuck women outside of your race, anon.

It's just that in this case the difference isn't "her skin is a different tone", it's "she had scales, spines for hair, and digitigrade legs"

INTERRACIAL BREEDING GROUNDS
*low beating drums from the distance*

>>44358229

Anon, fucking girls with monster features has been a thing since forever.

Huldra have cow/fox tails and lynx ears, Selkie turn into seals, Kitsune are literally foxes playing at being human, most Nymphs n' shit can turn into trees.

These and more have been mythological creatures humanity has fucked, and desired to fuck. I agree that totally alien monsters have no place, but monster-GIRLS do.

>>44360930
>I agree that totally alien monsters have no place
>implying xenophilia in all it's forms isn't the conquering patrician's fetish
I can understand any red blooded man wanting to fuck something so long as it had vaguely human secondary sexual characteristics, like HIPS or a curved chest.

This isn't a matter of tiles, it's a matter of wanting to fuck an extremely exotic sapient with curves and a hole.

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>>44357590
Monster boys are severely underrated. Waiting for them to become more popular once the monster girl bubble has popped.

>>44360873
NTR fish please go

>>44360970
>wanting to fuck tile patterns

Tile patterns are pure best girl and can only be masturbated in front of, never penetrated. The perfect waifu, forever virgin.

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>>44361011

She isn't the NTR Fish anymore, she's now 100% into the harem end and she *won* by stealing Darling's oral virginity.

>>44361090
>wanting your waifu to be forever virgin
>not wanting to make love with her and deflower her, making her yours forever

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This thread is supposed to be an argument convincing people that it's NOT magical realm? Because it's not working.

>>44357273
>monster girls
It's shit desu, senpai

>>44357562
>girls forcing themselves upon men.
I think that's just called rape anon.

>>44361452
It's called female empowerment, you fucking shitlord.

Just like how a woman hitting a man isn't domestic violence, it's "physical stress transfer"

>>44361471

>Just like how a woman hitting a man isn't domestic violence, it's "physical stress transfer"

Wait, wait. Is this actually a thing that femtards believe or are you just bullshitting?

>>44361569
He's bullshitting.

>>44361569
Probably.

>>44361598

Yeah, kind of figured since no such thing showed up on google. I mean I know feminists are retarded hypocrites, but I can't imagine them pretty much admitting it like that.

>>44361361
>impure waifu

Double haram.

>>44357750
They meant you can't be a straight woman who is also bisexual, any more than you can be a gay man who is also straight.

>>44360982
Monsterboys were already ruined by touhoufag and associated pedoshits.

>>44361624
>not taking her purity

>>44361011
She grew out of her terrible fetish, anon. Of course, now her mom is mad at her for turning her back on NTR.

>>44361598
>>44361614
>implying
It may not be part of the mainstream, but it's definitely out there.

>>44361624
>implying it's impure if she stays with the man who took it.

>>44361699
That's just the standard "women can never abuse men because men are always in power and women are never in power muh systemic patriarchy women are eternal victims for whom feminism is the only and eternal saviour" shit.

Christ but modern feminism is misogynistic.

>>44361569
It is believed by feminists - just as the Germans believed that every minority should be exterminated.
It's the vocal radical minority yelling louder than their fellows and being given the spotlight by the sensationalists of the opposite 'side' as 'proof' that their 'side' is right and the other's is wrong. Giving credence to shit like this as the basis for your views is a horrible idea; it lends to the belief that, since a handful of a select group are bonkers, then surely the rest are as well.
Not every German was a nazi.

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>>44361624
>Madonna-whore complex

>>44361624
>woman who never has sex with her husband
>"pure"
>not sexually dysfunctional

>>44361011
Still better than Cucktaur, who literally cannot reproduce without cucking SOMEONE.

>>44357489
>muh femdom
Faaaaaag

>>44361741
>Implying the Nazis did anything wrong

>>44361812
they lost

>>44361773
Did you not read the manga? Cerea's not going to cuck anybody.

>>44361129
Pretty sure the dryad did that first.

Hell, Suu had his whole head up inside of her on multiple occasions

>>44361859
She's cucking her future husband by fucking the teaser male instead, just as her cuck mother did before her.

>>44357440
There's actually a species of spider where the male does just that as it actually increases his chances of reproductive sucsess by increasing the chances that the female produces healthy offspring outeweigh the odds of finding another mate.
But yeah newer better run studies show that mate eating is usually rare to non-existent with most species.

>>44361881
Cerea has absolutely no intention of marrying a centaur. She's not already engaged to anyone.

>>44361951
Mate eating only happens in spider species in cases where he failed to bring her food and decided to feed her himself instead.

>>44362025
So, if you want to fuck an arachne, make sure to buy her dinner first.

Got it.

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>>44361805

>>44357273
It's possible that even if the monsters are visually attractive, there are obvious physical issues which most people would struggle to overcome.

Case in point:
https://e621.net/post/show/666443

>>44362086
Your whole post was literally
>everyone MUST like what I like!

>>44362191
Horse pussy

>>44357366
I still prefer them to be somewhat human like, but you're right, we need more monstrous somewhat humanoid females and less monstergirls

>>44361750
>buzzword-pseudoscience complex

>>44360930
>I agree that totally alien monsters have no place
Are you telling me you wouldn't fuck Celeste from Huniepop? She is best girl by a fairly wide margin.

An Aiko is fine too

Forget the monstergirls, I'll go straight for the monsters.

After witnessing a guy have a relationship with a giant spider in a game, I now believe anything is possible.

>>44358445
Only if you're bullying a qt shota and/or trap

>>44362191
Anon, she's perfectly sized
For what I'd want her to do to me

>>44363508
There's nothing wrong with brown elf amazons picking trophy "wives" among male adventurers either.

>You will never be a cute cleric fuccboi
>You will never be captured by a delicious brown, tall and muscular wood elf
>She will never "claim" you in front of her tribe, as a way to both establish her dominance and mark her territory towards the other women
>You will never use your magic exclusively for facilitating household tasks and healing your waifu after a particularly dangerous hunt or conflict with a neighboring tribe
>You will never watch her beat the shit out of an enemy tribe in a highly formalized form of combat, which basically comes down to a wrestling free-for-all.

>>44363651
That actually happened to the party's ranger, except they were drow.

>>44363651
>ywn be a submissive cuck

I'm alright with this. FemDom is a shit tier fetish.

>>44357582
I wish they posted less porn and more cute stuff over there. There's too much gross stuff going on.

>>44363805
I don't see any cucking involved, anon

>>44363921
I think term cuck has just become a generic insult to be honest.

>>44363960
>I think

>>44363921
FemDom inevitably leads to cucking, as your female chooses a superior male specimen.

>>44363992
>Confusing 2D fantasy with 3DPD sluts

>>44363992
Sounds like you weren't good enough at pleasing your mistress.

>>44363992
>inserting your cuckoldry in a fantasy

>>44364052
>>44364076
>>44364085
>all these useless fem doms

Tell me, for research, how much anime did you watch in sexually formative years?

>>44364124
That's not the point, you cuckold.

>>44364189
Answer the question degenerate.

>>44364220
Why?
Go back to >>>/r/eddit you fake /pol/ack.

>>44364248
I'm going to assume >4 hours a day, since you're being so defensive about it.

Man, no wonder you turned out so shitty.

>>44364266
>4 hours

>>44364312
Be honest: you didn't understand > meant greater than in this context.

>>44364366
I got it, I'm still greentexting you cuck.

goddamnit I can't find my pictures of the spider-head guy dancing with the spider-butt lady in fancy clothes.

That's how I do it.

>>44364376
>>44364376
sure, sure.

So anime not only makes you a limp wristed faggot, it also takes away from your time learning basic mathematical notation.

>>44364421
You what?

>>44364421
Not him, but do you know what happens when you use > twice in combination with a number? It becomes a link.

>>>/out/

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>>44357273
Honestly, I have nothing against MonsterxHuman relationships in my fantasy, as long as the monster in question isn't just blatant fapbait like 99% of monstergirls are.

I think there needs to be a certain ratio of monstrousness:humanity before it's legit.

>>44364473
Your point is?

A problem the no sexy monstergirl group has is that a lot of monsters were historically pretty sexy, and were only murderous for circumstancial reasons.

>>44364498
Nah, gonna disagree. Monstrous form or not doesn't matter, what matters is character.

>>44357581
I genuinely enjoy when the male is non-humanoid. Otherwise it's just regular rape.

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>monsterboys

>monsterboys
>implying humans aren't the greatest monsters of all
>implying male human sexual domination of female non-human sapients isn't my fetish

>>44364837
No need to spoil that, your fetish is approved patrician status.

>>44363288
As long as you're not afraid of heights
and you don't mind wearing a safety harness.

>>44364498
>Posting dragons
You mean the species that, by d&d canon, often shapeshift into humanoid form in order to reproduce with human men?

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>caring about romance or the pleasures of the flesh when the world and everything in it is doomed anyway, because the gods are either weak or lazy, the demons don't have the organization needed to win this was, and the only people who can even restore the former status quo (which also sucked) are practically Khornates

just give up. i did.

>>44364996
conquering patrician*, thank you very much.

>>44365072
Be the change you want to see in the world. By which I mean join either heaven or hell in a genocidal war against the other side and be the brilliant general that breaks this centuries old stalemate.

>>44363651
Yes there is, that being that femdom is cancer.

>>44365072
...What setting are you talking about?

>>44364498
Dragons are blatant fapbait too, especially the way /tg/ does em.

>>44363651
Good end

>>44363731
Better end

>>44363992
Be a better fuckboi and she wouldn't have left your ass

>>44364498
Yes

>>44365030
Both are fine

>>44365048
>often shapeshift into humanoid form in order to reproduce with human men?
Only three can do that, and a few example chromatics spread across the books are noted to take pride in the number of half dragon's they've produced
None of said samples know anything that would let them take human form

>>44360982
Hah!

>>44357970
HORSE PUSSY

>>44362191
If it has a snout it is out.

>>44363992
>Not being the superior male specimen.

>>44364124
None.

>>44366150
>restricting yourself to such a boring facial structure

>>44364498
>Complains about blatant fapbait.
>Posts blatant fapbait.

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Remove non-human scum

>>44363651
>>She will never "claim" you in front of her tribe, as a way to both establish her dominance and mark her territory towards the other women
That's right, she won't, because that behaviour doesn't make sense for a female.

>>44366281
I've said it once and I'll say it again: just because real women are shit doesn't mean fantasy women are limited to being shit.

>>44366281
Why not? Assuming it's a different species, behavior that makes sense for them might not make sense for human women and vice versa.


Of course you're probably going to accuse me out of hand of just wanting to justify a fetish when I have no idea what the context and justification behind your statement is, and would like to know.

Alternatively, I might just be overly pessimistic about the state of discourse in this thread.

>>44361129
Is this fact? Is this in the manga? I stopped reading around where the Dullahan showed up.

>>44366757
Well, the answer is she sort of gave CPR to Darling when he was about to drown, and Miia flipped her shit because she stole Darling's first kiss that way

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>>44366757

>Stopped after Lala

That's a shame, you missed the lovable Yuki-Onna and pic related.

>>44366802
There's an awoo?

>>44366820
That's a kitsune, brah. Polt is the awoo

>>44366874
I'm still mad that Polt is a full-blown furry and not just a cute wolfgirl.

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>>44366892

Worst part is wolf-girls are totally canon in the setting, we saw like three of them in the first chapter and they're nowhere near as furry as Polt.

This revelation set off quite a few discussions on /a/ about Bike Cop getting a wolf-girl extra-species partner.

>>44366789
That's not what "oral virginity" is, anon.

>>44366820

That's Ninetei, a financially-savvy kitsune with a very ambiguous age that shows absolutely zero shame in showing off the bodies she can seamlessly shapeshift into, since as she puts it "it's okay because they don't count."

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>>44366802

>literally every flavor of monstergirl is "human + monster bits
>except best ones, they're furry for no reason

>>44366982
>furry
???

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>>44366932
>four ears
you, too, are terrible.

>>44366970
Of all the things I hate about monmusu, the completely terrible names are high up there.

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>>44366991

>>44366802
>fur all over

>>44367004
>having shit taste
Nigga that shit is not furry; for one, there's no snout.

>>44366932
>To deal with the rise in extra-species crime, all police officers in [404 city name not found] are assigned an extraspecies partner
>Bike Cop is paired up with a plucky and diligent genki wolfgirl
>She always steals Bike Cop's lunch because he always makes the best lunches, forcing him to prepare two bentos from now on
>Sometimes gets distracted and starts running after cars or her own tail
>Enjoys headpats after a job well done
>Wan wan!
>Awoooooo~

>>44366982
I don't think Nintei is furry. She has a dog nose, but I'm pretty sure most of her body isn't covered in fur.

>>44367016
Fur's still killing it for me, man.

>>44367062
>but I'm pretty sure most of her body isn't covered in fur.

She's able to shift into forms without fur, anyway.

>>44367062
she very clearly has fur on her shoulders and arms, at least.

>>44367062

>She insists on going with Bike Cop on his morning routine to the local coffee shop
>She just likes the walkies

>>44367062
>Due to the paramilitary nature of the police in [The City], rather than badges, officers have dog tags.
>Hers has Bike Cop's name and number on the back

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>>44367187
>>44367062

This is the cutest thing.

Shame Crab will never EVER realize the potential.

>>44367253
>never EVER
goddamn it, now i'm getting triggered every time i see these words.

>>44367283
Never ever.

>>44367283
Never ever.

>>44367187
>Bike Cop and Dog Girl go drinking after work
>Dog Girl is lightweight
>Bike Cop up all night assuring Dog Girl she's a good girl between bouts of sickness and mournful howling

>>44367253

Shit, it doesn't even have to be a major thing in the series, it could be a side-story in the same vein as the onsen chapter where the side-girls talked about their men and Yukio canonically "won" by getting engaged to her business partner.

Also proved the spunky goat-things from the Farm chapter were lewd little freaks and Ninetei can be really fucking sultry when she feels like it.

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>>44367364

>Wolf Girl is assigned as a homestay for Bike Cop
>Finds nothing wrong with laying out on the couch even when Bike Cop's using it
>After a while she starts wearing clothes that expose her toned stomach
>Bike Cop assumes it's her showing off
>It's actually an invitation.

>>44367424
>It's actually an invitation.
>To rub rub her belly.
>She, like many canines, delights in this.

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>>44367317
>>44367355

>>44367424
>Dog Girl does not like storms
>At all
>Bike Cop often wakes up to her climbing into his bed during thunderstorms
>Reluctantly lets her sleep with him

>>44367447
I'd rub rub a musclegirl's belly.

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>>44367424
>>44367447
>>44367486

The best bellies to rub.

>>44367508
I want to rub rub a toned wolfgirl's tight and cut abs until she wan wan's and twitches her leg

>>44367525
You, I like You.

>>44367703
>discord666
You need to be 18 to be on 4chan.

>>44367776
Psssh... nothin personnel... kid

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>>44367776
>newfag calling someone underage

>>44367806

*unsheathes katana*
What did you say about my fedora!?

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Military dogs > police dogs.

>>44366150
Got a muzzle? You get no nuzzle.

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>>44367840
>filename
That's blatantly false.
both are the best

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>>44367470

>Wolf Girl's tail starts wagging whenever she's around Bike Cop.

Ehh. Sometimes this shit just happens. This is why I have a character who's engaged to a griffon.

We came up to a bunch of bandits that were trying to kidnap her and thanks to bardic lore we realized that pathfinder griffons are smart enough to understand common though they can't speak it. This shit wasn't even a poaching, it was a kidnapping.

We step in to save her but she's kinda beaten up so I decide to heal her. She's wary as fuck by I'm a skald (think half bard/half barbarian). I just go ahead and let her bite me to keep her still for a second while I heal her, then go full charisma and try to talk her down.

I swear, all I wanted was a griffon who I could be buddies with and go on cool adventures.

Rolled really well for diplomacy. GM rolls for reaction and then she promptly calms right down.

Turns out that sometimes when you jump into the middle of a brawl to save a lady and then get yourself bitten without putting up a fight just so you can heal her you buy yourself a lot of brownie points.

After that we did turn out to be buddies and went on adventures together. She was always really close by to him but it wasn't until I got the ability to cast speak with animals that I realized what was going on here.

So now I'm trying to find some polymorph magic for her and trying to figure out how to explain to the party. I kinda think I'm going to get her into human form before I explain the rest.

tl;dr All ladies love a hero, even griffon ladies.

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>>44368169
>playing as bard
>pathfinder
>bestiary

>polymorph magic for her


You sexist pig. You need to spend half your time as a griffon, at least.

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>>44368169

>Regal golden-feathered bird thing

Anon, if I was your DM I'd say her human form would be Samus.

>>44368240
Dude, skald is fun as fuck. You get all the best bard shit and are still like 85% of a barbarian.

Plus you get spell kenning which basically lets you scour any spell list you damn well please to find the right answer to your problem.

>>44368252
That's more like speciesist than sexist. And that's actually been brought up. The big reason we're working on her first is that people get all uppity when I want to take her places. Taverns keep complaining until they remember that it's let her in or turn away the best act that's graced their stage in ever.

Really, what I'd love to find is a wizard somewhere who'll make me an amulet that turns griffons into humans and humans into griffons. Then we just switch back and forth.

That being said, I can't exactly fight in griffon form since they can't actually speak a normal language, which prohibits bardic style casting

>>44368399
That's why you fat yourself up to be a plumpy, fuzzy feathered thing that can juggle and be merry. Or peform in general.

No one would ever want to mess with something like that.

>>44368436
Nah. Not sure she'd be terribly happy about ceasing to go on adventures because I got tubby and stuck in griffon form. Plus she digs the singing voice.

>>44368598
Has the interesting question been asked yet?

"If we ever got intimate, would you prefer your own form where you're more comfortable and me changing to match, you becoming the same as me so that we're compatible and I'm still myself, or trying to make this work as we are?"

>>44368656
Make sure to include the 4th option: Us both polymorphing into something other than our normal forms.

>>44368673
Let's get weird

>>44368656
We sorta chatted about it and she was actually the one who suggested magical assistance. I was the one who brought up her changing because it also lets us go more places. I feel bad about having to constantly argue with every dumb duke or baron we meet that he either treats her with respect or I don't fucking help kill skellies or demons or whatever he wants killed. Sometimes you just want to treat a lady to a nice dinner without explaining to them that they should go get her a fucking saucer for her wine because I ordered the bottle for the both of us.

Like I said, I'm looking to make her human through a magic item so she can just be human whenever she needs to. When I get access to a bit more polymorph magic I think I'll surprise her with some griffon lovin's. I figure I'm half bard so I'll definitely be able to figure out how to work griffon lovin'.

>>44368598
Fair enough. I'm not very fond of tubs of lard but the image of a fat feathered performer was really amusing.

>>44368736

It shouldn't be hard to make a constant alter self wondrous item, the only limitation would be cost.

Question is, what sort of item do you see your Skald giving her? It'd have to be something she's always wearing, even when naked.

>>44368399
>>44368736
And your DM is alright with this? This seems like it could quickly slip into right proper magical realm, real quick.
Not going to lie, your game sounds cozy as fuck

>>44368764
>This seems like it could quickly slip into right proper magical realm, real quick.

Magical realm is a state of mind, not a notch on the yard-stick.

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>>44368751
>fat feathered performer
best tribe.

>>44368760
Probably a ring. It'd be the easiest thing to get off in either form. Either that or a collar which has a sort of latch kinda deal to it that can be worked with claws. I definitely wanted it to be something she could put on by herself if I wasn't nearby at the time.

>>44368764
If he wasn't okay with it he shouldn't have rolled a 20 on the roll that determined how she reacted to my efforts to save her and take care of her.

Honestly, their relationships is kinda adorable. When he first put two and two together he immediately had to give her the standard "you know I'm a half-bard, right?" talk.

There is a special level of good natured that is required to put up with a bard's shit and despite trying to remind her that I'm kinda a bastard I eventually had to give up and deal with the fact that I'd stolen her heart and she didn't really want it back.

You want to know what your life unraveling looks like? It's an aasimar girl with true speak who you slept with after one of your performances happily chatting away with the griffon you just got engaged to (after sleeping with said aasimar)

This is the feels of a man who realizes that the women in his life are probably up to something but isn't quite smart enough to figure out what.

>>44368937
This is so cozy and comfy that I'm involuntarily smiling; best of luck in your game anon.

>>44368937
>This is the feels of a man who realizes that the women in his life are probably up to something but isn't quite smart enough to figure out what.

Anon, you're building a harem of willing women.

Aasimar girls a best. Griffin girls a best.

>>44366932
>tfw not NATO Zebra
>tfw i have no face since i gotta work nightshift on xmas

>>44369028
Yeah. Dude doesn't even really bother buying rooms at inns most nights and instead just finds somewhere comfy on the edge of town and sleeps tucked under her wing. Either that or if the wagon is empty we just lay out all bedding like things we have and hang in that.

>>44369030
The amazing thing is that he's not even trying. In fact he's actively trying not to because he feels like he owes it to the griffon. His usual behavior was just to pretty much act like a rock star when he wasn't fighting evil.

Since the engagement he's pretty much been turning down groupies for the most part pulling the "no, I have to do griffon things" card. Because no one has any idea what sort of things a griffon does no one realizes that we're just chilling out cuddling and drinking.

But every now and then you do the hero thing and meet a nice gorgeous girl during and stuff sort of happens (see "I'm a half bard" speech when I warned her about this)

I honestly think she's vetting the other women in my life and I imagine they either meet her approval or get griffon glares. And griffon glares are fucking scary.

>Griffonfucker is the hero we deserve

Re: the topic tho, if you are going to try and romance a monster girl it better be a whole side quest in and of itself. I'm talking bizarre mating rituals like jousting a centaur girl or skydiving with a harpy, getting her father's consent (possible boss fight optional, God help you if she's part demon, literally) and fetch quests for things she'd like / stuff to woo her. If you're going to go there, do it right and put the work into it.

For example, if she's part dragon, you may need to get her a hoard. And build a fireproof home for your wedding night

>>44368937
That sounds adorable, and reminds me of a wizard I once played, who ended up with a sphinx.

Low level, the party needed to get through a narrow pass guarded by a sphinx. I answered her riddle easily, and asked one of my own while the party was starting to move on. She and I traded riddles and puzzles the whole way through the pass, first time in forever either of them had had a really intelligent conversation. I would go back and chat between quests, eventually gave her a multi-stage rubik's cube/3D sudoku/crossword/puzzle box enchanted to randomize itself for new challenges. Inside was a necklace rather than a ring.

I'm placing their daughter as an NPC in a game I'm running

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>griffonwife
>sphinxwife
>this entire thread

Virtual reality and/or genetic engineering when?

>>44369152
Griffonfucker here.

I'm like 95% certain I've met her dad.

This was before I spoke griffon but they had a long conversation and he seemed to be leader of their flock or pride or whatever a group of griffons is called. I kinda don't think he likes me but he started showing me some respect after I went a couple of rounds with the guards to their home (by 'went a couple of rounds' I mean I intentionally didn't fight them and spent the whole time dodging, using magic to make me hard to hit, and generally trying to talk them down until she showed up and put them in their place)

Planning on maybe going back as a griffon to ask for her hand in marriage.

>>44369169
Aww, that's adorable. I'm really hoping that my kids get to be part of these adventures as well.

>>44368937

Well, a collar would probably raise some uncomfortable questions. But given that you bring a majestic bird monster into fancy restaurants, I guess you're used to those. A ring would be appropriately symbolic, but who knows how the fuck rings work with giant eaglebeast talons.

Don't cheap out on the latch, though. Though this all sounds cozy as fuck, accidental polymorphing could cause injury.

>>44369279
Sphinx-dad here, hoping you get to include the kids in later adventures too.

>>44369378
See, I considered the implications of a collar and I know she wouldn't like them. But we've been over the fact that a necklace might come off at an inappropriate time. And we can't do a small choker like necklace because there's no way she could get it on with her claws.

Ring seems the best answer. I'm thinking that it'll probably work if we just slip it onto her talon part way. Since the talon is thicker at the base you'd just slide it like half way down and presumably when it's snug the magic kicks in. Then she just finishes sliding it snuggly into place on her finger.

>>44369412
Out of curiosity, one monsterlover to another, how do you get around your wife thinking that you're ashamed of her?

I know she gets that feeling sometimes despite the fact that nothing could be further from the truth.

I try not to go places without her but there are some times when you just can't get her into a building and she has to hang out outside while we talk with people. Like I said, this is one of the reasons I'm trying to give her the option to turn human but I know it bothers her.

I imagine it's easier with a sphinx since she speaks common.

You can tell she gets a little bothered by the fact that people flinch when she tries to communicate with them. The worst is when I'm translating for her and someone speaks to me like I need to translate what they're saying. And then you get to have that uncomfortable conversation about how she understood every word they just said.

>>44369509

Sometimes all you have to do is just be as weird as she is, and the question never comes up.

I had a shard mind bard who courted a thri kreen maid once. Shame is only as powerful as you allow the dominant culture in the relationship to be.

God, this conversation is pathetic.

>>44369509
Well, she didn't travel with us much when we were dating, and after the wedding I retired to live with her in a nice big library tower/lair.

We did have some dealings with a desert town on one side of the pass she had claimed, and her issues were less about being ashamed and more that most humans are quite weak and simpleminded compared to her, and she found it exasperating. But she's not really a bad person, probably never meant that whole 'eat you if you fail my riddle bit', and managed to restrain herself since the townsfolk stayed respectful of the large, magical predator and dispenser of wisdom that she is.

I do wish you luck with everything though, and will say that a ring should work, or a necklace, which aren't as likely to fall off as you fear. A belt might also work, could be made for either fingers or claws to operate it easily enough.

>>44369536
Okay, so basically what I do now. Like I said, he kind acts like a rockstar, though toned down a bit more since he got engaged. Shame isn't something he feels about anything other than pussying out of fights, which he basically doesn't do. I just need to remind her that there's no way he'd ever be ashamed of her.

Grand romantic gesture time? Grand romantic gesture time.

I wonder if I can pull some strings and get her into a costume ball, she was super psyched when I first started buying her clothing (think stylish barding) so she might be down for dressing up and showing off.

>>44369541
I think it's cute

>>44369541
Well, it is, but that could honestly describe any conversation.

Yes, even /that/ one you were just thinking of. It's all pointless noise in the end, isn't it?

>>44357273
In areas where many different races interact, yes I assume that would be

>>44369679
>>44369656
>>44369509
>>44369279
>>44369114
You're ERPing with your GM. Not courting a mythical beast. Fantasy is by definition not reality, you need help.

>>44358296
>>44358277
>>44358264
It's not about the racism, but about how the speaker is hypocritical; anon was implying that after the 'but' in said statement the speaker would say something racist, contradicting their statement that they are not racist.

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This thread is shit.

>>44357273
So remind me again what this has to do with tabletop gaming?

Pro tip: You can't.

>>44367016
>there's no snout.
But there is? She blatantly has a snout and fur all over.

>>44363247
>Dissuading properly applied labels complex

>>44360873
What Chinese cartoon is this from?

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>>44369235
Some of our best minds are working on it as we speak.

Members of Homo Sapiens have deemed wise to fuck and breed neanderthals, denisovans and perhaps other unknown hominids, and those were certainly uglier than various fantasy races people fap to. So yeah no reason.

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>>44361569
>>44358612
>>44359116
now that's a waifu!

>>44373201
>imaginary
It's real you fucking normalfag.

>>44357440
Hmm. I didn't know that, thanks anon that's pretty cool

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>>44358502

>>44373201

I smell a copy pasta stolen from a previous thread. Be less obvious Trollius Minimus

>>44371463
Does the use of an IC perspective really bother you that much? I bet you always describe things as "My character does X, my character says this" etc.

And where is there ERP in this? My story at least never even got to a fade to black, even having a kid was just something in the epilogue.

>>44371463
>somehow not saying "my character" means anon believes that he is his character
Stop being so autistic, anon.

>>44366144
S I L K Y S M O O T H

>>44361741
>Not every German was a nazi.
And yet the Germans that didn't speak up, or move against the nazi's allowed the nazi's to commit horrible crimes against humanity.

Maybe feminism should read a little history, no?

>>44373860
Feminism isn't the equivalent of normal Germans. Women (or arguably men and women) are the equivalent of ordinary Germans. Feminists are the equivalent of Nazi Party members.

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>>44366144
>>44373848
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>>44373953
>liking a literal cuck

>>44374153
Anon, if you're beta enough to be cucked that's your problem. Some of us can earn and hold a seat at the table.

>>44359941
It was written, it's one of the more popular screen caps.

>>44374232
Centaurs literally reproduce by cuckoldry, anon.

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>>44368373
Skald is best

>>44374368
Recent Centaur mares have shown themselves willing to buck that trend huehue if they find a human male worth breeding with.

>>44358488
As a girl, I usually pick races that are obviously hot and fuckable. Similarly, I always build them to be useful, if not straight up powerful, but always in a way that it is easy to capture and neutralise them in some way.

I know a few friends who does the same. I don't think you realise just how many girls are into the whole "being dominated" thing. Hell, even a monstrous beast? Does it have a dick, then being dominated by it is still hot.

>>44374534
Do go on.

>>44374534
I'm not even a girl, just a trap, and I do this. Which races do you pick?

>>44374534
Thank you for your input, your honesty, and for having a fetish that completely fuels mine.

>>44357626
>>44357640

Women confirmed for Gay as Fuck

>>44374534
I'm agreeing with >>44374584

L O N D O N

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So what you guys are saying we need more manly monsterboys.

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>>44364798

>>44374647
No to the first word, yes to the second

>>44374534
>I don't think you realise just how many girls are into the whole "being dominated" thing.
Women shouldn't have been given equal rights until they acted equal and took up the same responsibilities as men. It's preposterous to demand equality while acting this inferior.

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>>44374706
You can't stop me.

>>44374737
>wanting women to act the same as men
>not wanting women to have rights
I don't think I've ever seen a femdom muhsoggykneeist before.

>>44374737
>Women shouldn't have been given equal rights until they acted equal and took up the same responsibilities as men.
What, like Susan B. Anthony demanding to be sent to prison for breaking the Law by trying to Vote?

Fuck outta here.

>>44374772
>not turning yourself in for breaking a law
>not being a proud, lawful citizen

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>>44374751
Kind of a shame i have mostly only Fire Emblem to work with.

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>>44374800

>>44374806
>diapers
Almost as bad as feet; fuck outa 'ere

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>>44374834
something less fara amblam

>>44374568
>just a trap
No you aren't. You just wish you were passable

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>>44374842
just hoping this mini-dump is helping someone.

>>44374806
>So would monster girls have specific fetishes?
Yes. I assume headcanon that'd they be based off of their monster / animal species, it's adaptations and primordial fears and drives. So Centaurs, despite being a proud warrior race would have a predator-prey fetish, since horses are preyed upon in the wild. Wolf / dog monster girls would have a submissive streak similar to how dogs act around humans. Etc.

>Like would they specialize?
See above.

>spoiler
No.

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>>44374850
actually, now i think of it, my collection mostly comes from old JRPGs.

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>>44374868
And Ff14 which finally did something right with cat races (even though playerbase continues to prove otherwise).

>>44374852
Yes, see, THIS is why monstersex has a reputation as the pastime of creepy perverts. It's not that you're sexing extant monstergirls, it's that you're inventing new species of monster for the sole purpose of sex. And not wholesome christian vanilla sex, but some kind of diaperfur fetish.
One day, society may be ready for your kind, but I hope it will not be soon.

>>44374806
You're as bad as the vorefags

>>44374930
>>44374852
>>44374835
I'm just trying to think about what kinds of monster girls would or even could wear diapers to begin with. Like they would have to have a humanoid groin, so lamias and spiders are out. Elves look good in diapers, but do they even count as monster girls?

>>44374534
>I always build them to be useful, if not straight up powerful, but always in a way that it is easy to capture and neutralise them in some way.
>myfetish.png
Useless limp-wristed submissives are the worst.

>>44374931
Oh, boo. Everyone is just as bad as everyone else here.
Are you going to claim that you have no perversions? Are you going to claim that you have no skeletons in your closet? Then why are you on 4chan?
That being said, diaperfags weird me out.

>>44375010
>werediaper.png

>>44375010
>Fetish that actively evokes both pedophilia and coprophilia
>Not worse than most other fetishes

>>44357273
>Monster girls aren't magical realm

>hundreds of posts about fetishes and how to justify them with various monster girls

Well >>44357292 called it, this thread was shit from the start.

>>44374930
>all that projecting
Calm down, purtianfag, and lets go over this point by point.

> It's not that you're sexing extant monstergirls, it's that you're inventing new species of monster for the sole purpose of sex.
I didn't say that. The question was asked: what kind of fetishes do you assume monster girls have. I answered that based off of my understanding of how psychology and evolution effect and influence sexuality. At no point did I say that monster girls were all X's, or that they only exist for Y. A question about predominant trends was asked, and a general answer was given.

>And not wholesome christian vanilla sex, but some kind of diaperfur fetish
Please explain to me how the fetishes I touched on are equivalent to diaper fetishism. Is it your stance that everything outside of vanilla sex is fetishistic and, as such, morally abhorrent?

>One day, . . .
That the thing about high ground, if it's not stable the fall tends to be painful. Careful there, friendo.

>>44375031
This desu senpai
Diaperfaggotry is one of the few iredeemably shit fetishes, and should be punished to the fullest extent of Man's and Nature's laws.

>>44375026
Werediaper is hilarious in how weird it is. Nobody should take it seriously. And that's coming as a diaperfag.

>>44375056
I'm still trying to decide if the werediaper should be among the holy trinity of fetishes screencaps, along with tiles, Ohio, and backpack-cucking

>>44375077
>tiles, Ohio, and backpack-cucking
Not even close. Those are so amazing they need to be left in a category unto themselves.

>>44375077
Maybe. It's kind of a baffling mix of bad art and fetishes. It's certainly notable.

>>44375077
>Ohio fetish
what

>>44357273
>courting monsters

This is why it's magical realm. Monsters are intended to represent something aggressive, predatory, threatening, and not quite human in nature. If they were human-like enough to act in the same capacity, they would be people, not monsters. There's nothing magical realm about half-elves existing despite half that equation not being human.

Magical realm comes into play when you have people finding ways to act out their fetishes that they normally can't publicly air out, like dragon-girls who look like pre-teens but are actually a thousand years old and mentally mature which makes it okay, or idiot catgirls who are five years old but have mature bodies so that makes it okay, or animal features but she has a human head so that makes it okay.

And hey, people have fetishes. I would wager that every single person on earth has some sort of kink that won't make for polite dinner discussion, even if they won't admit it to themselves. But these things stay private for a reason.

>>44375144
>he doesn't know about Ohio
Someone just go ahead and post all 3, I forgot to save them.

Ideas on monstergirl kinks: driders and bondage are pretty obvious, and S&M is fitting for most predators. Harpies in the original myth spent their days shitting on a blind guys food, so there's that for weirdos into the really crappy fetishes. Fairies and giantesses for size kinks. Mimic girls could do all sorts of objectophilia and maybe vore. Cat monsters are more likely to be into rough, combative sex than sweet, obedient catgirls. Gnolls might be futa and femdom depending on what hyena they're based on. Insects for oviposition. Kraken types for tentacles. Mind flayers for tentacles and mind control. Slimes.

>>44373860
Well that has many reasons. first of all germans are socially... Inert? seriously no word descripes it as it should. People here accept quiet a bit more than anyone else before moving to do something. Second Hitler and his party did have much support from german military in their late days and from early on a seizable force of hooligans everywhere to wreck your shit if you didn't keep quiet. then they told everyone if would be better to join up and the gullible did so right away. Many people then joine up as people joining, false promises and World War I after effects, something called the Dolchstoßlegende played a large role here, read it up, not to forget Hitler WAS a born orator, speaking pretty much whaat the people had on their mind. Really though, the whole thing couldn't have happen if it wasn't for the public perception of an unbeaten germany and the economic hardships before NSDAP appeared. People were just that desperate for a better life.

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>>44375349
Kraken also has a lot of potential for size and bondage.

>>44357704
Being able to produce enough semen for someone else to subsist on is my fetish.

>>44375349
What about they're people instead of a living embodiment of some fetish or another?

>>44374568
Well, elves are always a favorite.

Otherwise, it depends a lot on the setting. Asari, twilek, whatever "hot female race" is around.

"damsel in distress" is probably more fetish fuel for women than men, honestly.

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>>44375349
>Cat monsters are more likely to be into rough, combative sex than sweet, obedient catgirls.
this. Have people picturing catgirls as that even had a cat?

>>44375442
>non-humans
>people
Monsters exist for only two purposes: to be pierced by my spear.

>>44375390
Lost myself there, to get back to your point, once that happened, military, police and fanatcis where already so entrenched, people against it couldn't do much and the rest were so thoroughly indoctrinated they wouldn't have dreamed of doing something.

>>44373860
It's not as if every German everywhere had an innate knowledge of the inner workings of the Nazi party during WW2 - most didn't. And even if they did, what would they have done? It's a small civilian group against a military force with actual war materiel.

>>44375442
>>44374930
Again, moralfag? We're discussion MG sexuality. Of course they'd have psychology and social structures apart from their sexuality, but the question on the table at present /is/ their sexuality.

You know, it's funny. I've seen some threads where people have honestly tried to discuss what MG social structures would be like, and the same old tired moralfags come in and bit about how it's all just fap bait, and why don't people admit to it.

Fuck, you people are tedius.

>>44375461
See, you are the reason people call monsters magical realm. You don't even care about gender, I mean come on.

>>44375655
>hurr I can't take a joke
>implying male monsters aren't for my spear
>implying female monsters aren't for my "spear"

>>44357292
The only thing both have in common is your lack of arguments.

>>44375564
I'm just saying, it's super boring to say all spidergirls are into bondage.

If you wanted to go off it being their instincts or some shit, they'd be more likely to be interested in smaller men and have a tendency for biting rather than bondage play.

>>44377522
See? That's interesting. You /could/ make a case for bondage not being a sexual fetish for spiders, if for no other reason that for how necessary it is for daily survival.

The smaller partners might work, I actually like that. But fetishism as I referenced it has to do more with deep seated psychological ticks that make sense when you break them down but aren't necessarily apparent.

Now, maybe they are fairly obvious, and that's fun to play with too, but they don't have to be.

And it's worth noting that such discussions should be tempered with the idea that a race will not be perfectly homogenous with its sexual preferences, proclivities, and fetishes. Broad strokes and all that.