Defeat this.

>>44128287
can i just fuck it

>>44128287
>Infinite Init
>No Mazing
>No Portal control
>No Shadow Slicing
>Lawful

Hey OP, your made up "thing" is using the same name as an established character. You should think about changing it.

>>44128474
lol what kind of fuckup do you have to be to make this comment

My group can't play a serious game in sigil because first session turns into "how quickly can I piss off the lady of pain"

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>>44128287
Hahahahahaha
If the GM wants to go full meta, Lady of Pain, meat the Lord of Pain.
Namely my dick, which I'm sticking up the DM's Ass after I finish beating him up

>>44128287
Dies to removal.

>>44128287
>Languages: 10,000 Flensings
I lol'd

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>>44128287

Maybe Lady of Pain is just lonely, she has to deal with gods constantly trying to negotiate their way into Sigil, has any of Sigil's citizens tried leaving her flowers? She is a lady after all.

>>44128287
Okay so let's set out my goals here. I'm not trying to beat the Lady of Pain. I'm trying to use one ability (any ability) that allows me to push/pull an enemy. Basically I'm looking to shove or throw here, that's the life ambition here - annihilation is accepted as a natural consequence, but can I actually get away with it in the first place?

I'm assuming a typical party, so we have 4-5 shots at shoving her.
>The Lady always goes first, but doesn't have any extra actions - she's move-minor-standard save as everyone else
>One PC is instantly killed by Pain, but only one
>10,000 Flensings is an immediate reaction, not an immediate interrupt. It won't stop someone shoving her.
>Fine, Die of Old Age doesn't come into play here - it's also after the fact
>Rocks Fall, You Die - this is a problem because it can take out the whole party as a minor action. Is there some way to avoid this in the rules?
>Move infinite is a problem, as she could fly 5,000 miles away and still wipe the party immediately.

>>44128535
No, OP, he's right. this "sheet" is retarded.

>>44128535

What

>>44128715

said

You guys are looking at this the wrong way.

You don't have to defeat the Lady of Pain, you just have to defeat whatever pathetic DM allowed this to appear in his game.

>>44128762
See
>>44128569

>>44128652
Think she'd take that as attempted worship and would flense you.

Possibly because that sort of thing flusters her.

>>44128762
>Fuck my BBEG is kinda shitty
>Have my BBEG kill lady of pain
>Suddenly not so shitty anymore

>>44128287
I use "'K",

In character and ooc I just stare at the DM while he giggles. I then excuse myself to the bathroom, look through his fridge for something to eat, steal some of his beer and go home to paint and assemble miniatures while listening to music.

Overall a pretty good session. 8/10

>>44128798
hey, it almost worked for Vecna

>>44128287
I step out of The Sigil.

>>44128778
>My little Eldtrich creator can't be this cute

>>44128287
You made main mistake number one... If it has stats the player will find a way to kill it.

The only winning move is not to stat.

>>44128287
Take her statblock, or her figure.

>>44128821
The only ability DM bullshit can't stop. "Rob'n'Run"

>>44128287

> playing a Planescape campaign
> Chasing a huge villain called the Duke of Darkwood (poor translation of mine)
> Dude was convinced he had a way to destroy the Lady of Pain via some fucked up place created by an ancient powerful wizard who, apparently was once, for a brief moment of time, The Lady of Pain's lover
> We can't defeat the BBEG he's playing us like some fucking banjos
> For four years this goes on, we are constantly chased and barely make it out alive, how are we even supposed to win against this dude ?
> We find out the guy exists in several dimensions at the same time and other insane stuff like that.
>At the end of the campaign the Lady of Pain appears in front of us and him
> He opens his eyes and his memory comes back
> The Lady of Pain cannot lose
> She sends him in the same maze she's been sending him into for about 50580558505959 billion of times
> The maze is simple : he gets to revive his life, same shit all the time, up until he's about to defeat her and she appears
> That's when his previous lives memories come back and he figures the whole shit out.
> We just stand there and quietly go away
> None of us know if we can call this a victory

Great campaign

>>44128287
>Planescape creators were so buttmad over powergaming they purposefully designed a character with no statblock to prevent powergaming
>This makes people want to powergame even more

what does the lady of pain do in sigil? Does she manage things? Or does she just go around killing stuff that bothers her?

Throw up some mirrors of opposition and hope it works out, I guess

>>44128431
>can i just fuck it

The hero /tg/ deserves

>>44128287
Hello?

The Lady is trapped in Sigil though, so if you can destroy Sigil from the outside without entering it, you can kill her without getting instagibbed.

Also, Vecna somehow managed to come up with a way to not die. When he bruteforced his penis into Sigil and started shitting the place up, the Lady is forced to employ the PCs to kill Vecna.

>Vecna holes up in The Armory in Sigil, and it is explained that the multiverse could unravel. "...should the Lady reveal herself in her true form in all its aching majesty to do battle with the waxing god, the multiverse would come undone like a mobile whose strings are simultaneously severed."

So there's a suitable power level able to resist her sluttery, to which point in order to kill you, she would have to power up so hard everything would be destroyed.

>>44128287
Get a natural 20 on that one Rogue attack that makes an enemy do its damage to itself. Lady of Pain takes infinite damage from her infinite modifier and is instantly slain.

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>>44133272
You'd need 20 of them at least, since she has a 19/20 chance to miss herself due to the infinite AC.

>>44133272
It's immune to everything so this would not work, since there's nothing that implies her immunity piercing attack is an opportunity attack.

>>44133272
Would work until you notice that youre not going first, she is

>>44133331
>>44133351
No, it literally wouldn't. She has immunity to all damage and her basic attack doesn't bypass this.

>>44128715
He's wrong though, my 6 year old could find the word 'maze' and anyone who knows what they're talking about knows that 10000 flayings is the shadow thing.

>>44128733
Did you just 'this'? Go back to reddit.

>>44133331
>>44133370
Show me where it specifies she has any immunities. Infinite stats =/= Immunities.

>>44133233
I believe her health is higher than the modifier on her attack/ damage.

>>44133454
>Immune Everything

Which is silly, because you can just say she has Immunities to being used in a game and thus could not even be there, or Immune to not winning and lose by default, etc.

>>44133377
Just wanted to pop in and remind you that you aren't taking a crazy pills, and that the guys you are quoting are legitimately retarded and you're right and they're wrong. Enjoy this, errr, "thread!"

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>>44128287
>4e monster
Yeah I'll pass.

>>44133454
Are you the same guy who first replied to the thread and said "No maze" etc? Because it seems you both didn't read the sheet.

>>44133160
This.

Erase Sigil from another Plane.

Get fucked, Lady of Mary-Sue.

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>>44133524
Thanks for posting.

>>44133545
Better to go with the Nexus Dragon since it extends beyond reality and has existential altering effects.

Neutronium Golem is nothing to sneeze at, but at the end of the day it is still just a normal golem made of normal neutronium. Lady of Pain is anything but normal.

>>44133650
that's a good point.

>>44132090
Stop everybody else ruining everything.

>>44132090
She stops troublemakers and people who piss her off. A good way to achieve this is to bother the little creatures that go around the city, fixing broken homes and other things. She is very protective of them.