Mtg Modern

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That card has won me quite a few drafts back in the day. Being a 1 drop flyer that can potentially replace itself is pretty damn amazing. Its really a shame that it isn't viable in modern.

I really hate this Faerie meme.

>>43958427
Is modern faeries a viable thing?

>>43959514
the short answer is no

>>43959566
Damn, I like the aesthetics of the lorwyn cards. Maybe for more casual play.

>>43959514
Tribal decks and decks built around specific mechanics (hellbent, convoke, madness etc) are just weaker in general because they don't have enough power printed in them. They may have a few powerhouse cards but mostly the majority of the cards using the mechanic aren't playable. If you want to use that mechanic in a deck just use the best card that uses the mechanic in an already good deck.

>>43959617
True - from what I've learned, getting into modern (since I had a lot of cards from mirrodin, kamigawa, onslaught and stuff) is that most of the top decks are quick combos or just sweeping the field. At least, that what I gathered, and the budget affinity deck I'm wrangling together supports that idea.

That said, casual as it may be, I'm a sucker for those mechanics and tribal effects, and fairies looked pretty cool, with Oona or whatever her name is, the fairy lord.

>>43959684
ayy mane if it wats u like then u gotta do it!!

What's everyone's opinion on Big Zoo?

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Honestly tribal can work if wotc wanted it to. It just needs a glue card, something to knit it all together. They have huge boners for elves and they don't mind printing out a new cheesy elf practically every set, even when the core is already perfect
toss this fucker in literally any elf list and you become a combo deck. >what sort of combo?
Infinite life, infite mana, infinite tokens, infinite direct damage... Splinter twin? Look at this fuckers mana cost. In ELVES.

>>43960342
Really fucking good vs unprepared decks imo. Burn has to time skullcracks very well since these big fucking mossy cockstompers can gain you life for some reason.
control with a good sb might have a field day tho
Im assuming you mean "big mean green" deck right?

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Are these playable in a mono-Red burn or are there better options?

>>43960467
Bonfire probably not, anger sideboard i suppose.

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>>43959595
they're really pretty cards. Lorwyn shadowmoor and eventide were dope
also
>foils

>>43960467
Sb material, anger of the gods is really good vs vengevine decks among other things.
Whats ur burn list?

>>43960467
Flamebreak for that RRR, maximum red plus dope art

>>43960467
Also, bonfire is good sb vs dinky tokens, if thats the only sweeper you need for your meta then it adds a little flavor and is actually hard-castable
Sorta like izzet staticaster but more rng

>>43959514
Not brilliant, but someone at my lgs was getting consistent 3d place or so and he was having fun playing it.
If you want to have fun, which is what card games are for, then faeries is good.
Competitively just play memerhinos and meme cards and memerange

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Speaking of tribal
Now that Goblin Piledriver is in Modern is Goblins at least tier 2? It's a tribe with some actual power in it

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So I got a bunch of modern legal black and white cards given to me
How do I pick 60 so I don't feel like umaru in pic related when I go to a mates place Sat

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>tfw your favorite pixiv artist has a ton of untagged mtg art.

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>>43961100
heres an example goblin list that could be t2-3 off the top
atarka goblins
>4 piledrivers
>4 goblin guides
>4 legion loyalists
>4 bushwacker
>4 foundrystreet denizen
>4 tattermunge maniac
>4 goblin cohort
>4 attarkas command
>0-4 moggwar marshal
>0-4 goblin grenade
>0-4 lightning bolt
>2-4 lords of choice (king/chieftain)

You can get cute with gruul lands, especially since it's only a splash. You don't have to run attarkas either, you could go jund or mono-red.

>>43961388
I personally find moggwar too slow in attarka goblins, and I usually only fit 2 lords into this build (cheiftain).
You could add some creature buffs and go all out; mutagenic growth protects piledriver from those pesky bolts, temur battlerage can be a wincon on him, and brute force/titans strength (or groundswell if green) are all decent filler.

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>>43961481
T1 priority : foundrystreet>guide>cohort>tatter>loyalist>bolt>>>>>>>>bushwhacker
T2 priority :
do turn 1, twice.
risk the piledriver drop
if you cant, drop a bushwacker/attarkas
or maybe a grenade
T3 priority
This is usually where you use Chieftain, or attarkas/bushwhacker for huge damage along with using the other 1 mana for a goblin.
If piledriver is out, a loyalist can give him trample and other goodies on the swing

If you're low on lands, don't worry, just keep dropping 2 power goblins
T4
Attarkas+bushwacker
if pile driver isn't out, you can send him out along with bushwacker for a huge swing. You can do the same thing T5 with chieftain and piledriver
Grenades/bolts are great finishers

>>43961311
1. Get token producers and anthems
2. ???
3. Lose to tron

>>43961311
What emotion is this Umaru character supposed to be expressing here?

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>>43961688
Red can deal with tron. Blood Moon, molten rain, magus of the moon, fulminator mage, that one land that destroys nonbasics
Or spreading seas if ur merfolk.
White/black has fulmi, sadistic sacramend, aven mindcencor, thoughtseize/duress/surgical extraction, sb artifacts like pithing needle or phyraxian revoker, or this thing

I cannot figure out what to get my friend for Xmas and I don't want to just buy him a single 40 dollar card.

I looked up reviews and everything says fat packs are a gamble, xmas gift boxes are garbage, deck builders kits are useless and boosters alone are borderline useless.

What do I do?

>>43962420
If he doesn't have one, get him a playmat, maybe even a custom one from for example inked playmats.
its probably the most personal gift you can get for him.

>>43962452
Thanks man I'll look into it.

>>43962461
depending on how much you want to spend, there are also stuff like handmade wooden deckboxes which are also pretty cool.
oh, you could also comission an alter of a card he likes with some inside joke or moment of yours.
just ideas.

>>43962474
I'm going to pay to have his wife, who is a professional artist, draw art for a custom playmat and order it off of Inked Gaming. thanks guys, you help a lot.

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Check out this list and tell me what you think. It's Gruul Zoo.

4 Wooded Foothills
4 Windswept Heath
3 Stomping Ground
3 Rootbound Crag
3 Forests
3 Mountains
(I'll be updating the manabase a bit)

4 Lightning Bolt
4 Atarkas Command
2 Become Immense
2 Rancor

4 Goblin Guide
4 Legion Loyalist
4 Tarmogoyf
4 Burning Tree Emissary
2 Goblin Piledriver
4 Flinthoof Boar
3 Boggart Ram Gang
3 Ghor Clan Rampager

Pretty solid? or needs a lot of work?

>>43964099
Goblins are dead draws unless you draw them all at once. >no nacatl Boar and Ram Gang are pretty shit, just play Lava Spikes and Boros Charms.

>>43964099
Splash white for Wild Nacatl.

>>43964542
So cut the Ramgang? Loyalist is just for the easy trample and first strike to all creatures not just Goblins
Also
>Boar is shit
What are you talking about? Most lists on MtG top8 run it

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Pyromancer control, what do you guys think? Deviated a bit from grixis delver which I generally play.

>>43965649

Seems okay for an open metagame. Seems soft to Verdict, but if UWx isn't a thing in your metagame it'd probably do well.

>>43965649
Blistercoil Weird is a neat 1 drop with prowess that might work here

>>43965649
I'm starting to wonder if Blightning is worth playing in Grixis Delver. Hammering their hand to pieces while Bolting them would be the nail in the coffin for a lot of decks since it'd stop you stabilizing.

>>43966244
Kommand is always better.

>>43965649
>no ebin experiment one of

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>>43966162
So much power is in that "untap" part, and in this deck it's just vigilance (not that "just vigilance" is bad by any means)
Plus imagine him with this equipped. Play a red ritual spell? Ggwp.

I personally would use Swiftspears instead for the haste. Alternatively, Nivmagus elemental

/tg/, what is your sweet fun of in your deck?

I'm boring and practical, so its just a dismember.

>>43960562
>If you want to have fun, which is what card games are for
?

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>>43966917
Doesn't work, the weird doesn't untap from putting a copy on the stack, only actually casting a spell

You could could get two copies out of it by
>cast ritual
>respond to untap trigger and copy it
>untap, copy again
But that's it

The combo with Blistercoil is paradise mantle and cantrips. Tap him to make a mana, use that to cast a cantrip, untap him, draw another cantrip, repeat until you can grapeshot them to death and hope you don't fizzle/they don't have removal

>>43967237
Kodama's Reach in Scapeshift. I BTL for it a lot, actually.

>>43967262
Oh shit my bad. So kind lika a jeskai asscendancy but a blistercoil asscdancy, I like it.
Serums+probes+blue cantrips or wisp cantrips, maybe a goyf or two if you go temur (for dat green wisp cantrip)

I wish worldly tutor was modern legal ;_;

>>43967324
I run a singleton value Mystical Teachings in Esper Control.

Usually it just grabs Snapcaster Mage, but sometimes I pull a rev from it to end the game.

>>43966244
Kcommand is the better option if you ask me.

>hey let's make a Modern general !
>except the OP pic is a draft common from a standard set that nobody plays ! that will catch their attention !

>>43967862
He's the best 1 drop faerie fuck off m8.
Staple in any meme deck

Making modern faeries should be easy, since no one uses them, but then Bitterblossom and Vendilion Clique has to come along and shit on my parade. I mean yeah, I know I'm not shoveling goyfs in there or anything, but still, I just wanted to make a sweet tribal.

>>43968761
Snapcaster Mage is more expensive than them all and he's a 4 of in Faeries.

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Please help me improve this deck. I want to build a black/blue that isn't mill.
http://www.mtgfanatic.com/decks/viewdeck.aspx?id=175537&page=1&pagesize=25

>>43969030
That's a good joke son. I especially like the 4x One With Nothing. Black Vice is also a nice touch.

>>43968877
fucking snapcaster mage. Seems like he should have been red.

>>43969030
what does this even do

hope your opponent has no clock while you just try to kill them with vise?

Plus a lot of those cards aren't even modern legal.

There's a decent UB midrange deck floating around (basically Snapcaster Mage, Lillianna of the Veil, Phyrexian Obliterator, black removal + discard, some soft counters like remand or dispel, and sometimes Ashiok in the sideboard)

>>43968761
Are you cute? You could probably whore yourself out. I've done it before, but on the giving end of the spectrum.

>>43969030
What the fuck is this.

>>43969253
It really feels like you're trying to do too much at once

>>43969297
but anon i gotta go stupidly hard right?

>>43969253
The problem you face is that straight up Burn is faster and more consistent than you.

>>43969224
>Lilly and Snapcaster
Meme as fuck

>>43969253
Butcher has better p/t and more potential but it harder to cast. I like the options butcher gives over indestructability. If removal is a ptoblem, you can always swap them. However niether are good in the face of path and dissmember. I wouldn't recommend your deck but it has a pile of good cards in it which should get you somewhere.

>>43969441
Did somebody say Memebutcher? ;^)

>>43969498
what does this mean exactly

>>43969589
Someone (ie. me) was trying to brew a viable grindy Mardu midrange deck for Modern a bit back. The problem I ran into was not having a real catch-all removal spell in the vein of Abrupt Decay or Maelstrom Pulse. I probably gave up on the deck far too early, but it might be worth you giving it a go.

>>43969589
He's being retarded.

>>43969406
Still not as meme as abzan

If I'm going to sell my Modern deck as a complete package, should I do that now or wait for Modern season?

>>43969623
Path and Kommand cover most of your bases, though. Access to bolt and dismember as well. ExileVindicate, if you're really desperate.

>>43969823
24-26 land (depending on your curve)
4 bolt
4 path
2-3 helix
1-2 dismember
you have access to wrath of god, damnation, even consume the meek if you want a good answer to manlands if you really need a wrath that badly.

Just throw in Young Pyro, Lingering Souls and some hand disruption and you'll be good.

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Do I have to activate this card's effect every turn? What happens if I don't want to sacrifice a creature of if I can't sacrifice one?

>>43970229
hoyl SHIT anon how do you even fucking BREATHE

IT SAYS RIGHT ON THE CARD
ON YOUR FUCKING UPKEEP
YOU SACRIFICE A MOTHERFUCKING CREATURE
WHAT THE FUCK DO YOU THINK?
>what if I can't sacrifice one
THEN YOU FUCKING DON'T ASSHOLE
ALTHOUGH MOST OF THE TIME IF THE ABILITY TRIGGERED, SMOTHERING ABOMINATION ITSELF WILL BE THERE SO YOU'LL HAVE TO SAC IT THEN WON'T YOU, YOU BLITHERING IDIOT?

>>43970229

It's a triggered ability. It happens every turn, whether you want it to or not. If you only control that creature, you have to sacrifice it.

>>43969823
This was pre-Kommand.

>>43970048
It was 24 land, including manlands, Young Pyro, Souls, Butcher, even Stoke the Flames as it actually functions quite well. Grim Lavamancer + Vault of the Archangel was a cute interaction for later in the game too since he zaps with deathtouch. I might re-brew it one day, but I have a couple decks for that. At the moment I'm the dumbass playing RUG Loam, but Junk Aristocrats is something I'd like to try. It's been decent in my sketchy testings. Combo kills on turn 4 aren't unknown.

>>43970255
Well, sorry. I'm still kinda new to Magic.

>>43970268
Got it, thanks.

>>43970255
Shit son, you sound triggered.

>>43970320
That interaction is honestly too cute for my tastes.

If you really want to use Vault, you need to be running token producers like bitterblossom alongside your other shit, you get free removal from every token you get. Sorin also plays well with that strategy.

>>43970599
Sorin was there. The main token producers I had were Pyromancer and Souls. It's not like you're Vault.dec or anything, it's just a land with a nice ability you might use, kinda like how Abzan runs Vault and Township.

>>43969791
Anyone?

>>43970958
git gud lmao

Damn it /tg/ I really want to play Instant Reanimator but 4x Goryo's and Through the Breach cost 200 smackaroos. I thought no one actually played this deck....

>>43971034
I'm selling it for something else

>>43971077
I said the the same thing about bloom titan. Just get it over with and you'll feel better afterwards.

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>>43970255

>>43971360
>how to spot retards

>>43971276
yeah that's interesting actually. bloom titan was a VERY cheap tier 1 deck before last modern season began. compared to all the other tier 1 decks it was really good value in terms of $$ and how powerful the deck is. i think maybe people were afraid of bans, so some of the staples for that deck didn't spike as hard. now everything is expensive so although bloom is still decent value compared to the other decks but it's all 2expensive for me.

>>43971077
This is how WotC wants it, anon.

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/tg/, what is the best sideboard card in modern no one is playing?

>>43971547
Does this stop cranial plating?

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Alright lads, which print has better foiling? Mirrodin or Xth edition?

>>43971486
I will be eternally mad that I spent what I did for mother fucking azusa.

>>43971578
Not even close.

>>43971578
Only if you name the creature it's attached to. In other words, no.

>>43971578
I said "no one is playing".

If you're not already playing stony silence, then I can't help you anon.

>>43971578
no it's bad, it's just for manlands and a few other random janks

anyone who thinks this card is good is probably a filthy UWx control player and their opinion should be discarded

>>43971578
Its a catch-all answer to a lot of linear stuff like Boggles, Infect, Ad Nausuem, etc.

>>43971641
Not everyone gets to play abrupt decay. Sometimes you have to take what you can get.

Why is Affinity so boring?

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sleeved this up for the weekend. Any criticism?

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>>43971903
>>43971903

>>43971899
I like affinity, but that's mainly because I started around mirrodin, so those classic affinity creatures stuck with me.

>>43971903
Top heavy

>>43971975
It's upside down

>>43971967
Playing similiar kind of deck. Really want full set of lightning helix. You want celestial colonnades. Geist rarely gets to attack, but wins the game if he does. Spell snare can be pretty damn disgusting if it doesn't hit. Would mix remand and mana leak (maybe 3x remand and 2x mana leak), since remand is shit in some match ups. Haven't tested boros charm yet, because I sold them when I was weak. You really want to set your sideboard against burn. Helix helps, but it's hard, hard race.

>>43971967
>Permission in a proactive deck
You realise that's pointless and hurts your gameplan right?

whats something fun/innovative lately? Ive seen the new elf-ball with collected, and lantern. Anything else interesting being tried out?

>>43972463
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/28-07-15-rug-loam-control/

;^)

>>43972463
Temur prowess is fun and relatively innovative.

>>43972463
That one shitty combo with that big bear and the shapeshifters looked cool.

>>43972396
....Wait what? Can you define proactive for me, since I ahve understood anything from bolt to remand being pretty fucking active.

Geist and YP are just midrange threats that win the game for you.

>>43971967
>>43972252
If you want to play Delver, don't add any Colonnades; you shouldn't have any tapped lands in you deck at all. If you play UWR Midrange (better deck imo) run 2-3. Control should always have 4.

>>43972396
>What is tempo

so how terrible of an idea is it for my intro to modern to be either affinity or infect?
also how much of a difference is there between the budget and normal versions of these decks?

>>43973433
Budget Affinity is unplayable.
Budget Infect can steal a few games but that's it.

I started with Affinity and it's a fine place to start. If you want to ingrain yourself in Modern more, you should consider other options with multi-deck staples like UR Twin.

>>43973433
budget affinity isn't even a deck
infect is already cheap but if you cut the pendelhavens and shit the deck will be pretty garbo probably, but dont get me wrong. in terms of how strong you can get in modern on a budget, budget infect is certainly not your worst chance. budget decks are weak but infect is not the weakest

>>43973533
inkmoths are really expensive.
>>43973500
what would you consider the most fun deck to play that wouldn't force me to mortgage my house?

>>43972252
I'm not playing midrange though

>>43973618
oh yeah that too heh

>>43973618
theres lots of cheap tier 317508123 decks that you might find fun, but any tier 1 deck is extremely expensive. the question is, is it worth is spending half the cost of a tier 1 deck on a pile that's never going to be tier 1?

>>43973433

Infect is boring as hell to play. For a fun budget deck try BW Tokens. All the key cards are commons and uncommons, and most of the rares in the deck are cheap thanks to the Modern Event Deck.

I say start here
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/bw-token-budget-copy-1/
and then upgrade if you've got the funds to do so.

>>43973618
Burn is inexpensive if you stick to 1 or maybe 2 colours. You can always use off colour fetchlands and run just 1/2 Foundries for your Boros Charms. Zurgo could sub for Guides.

>>43973618
Fun is subjective. I like Valakut Titan and it's not too expensive.

http://www.mtggoldfish.com/archetype/modern-valakut-titan#paper

Easily upgradable to become a different deck, too. You can slowly aim for Cryptic Command and Snapcaster Mage and bam, you get the classic Scapeshift deck AND the BTL Scapeshift deck. Then move to Twin. Then move to Grixis. Then move to whatever you want, man.

>>43971597
>BFZ Sylvan Scrying doesn't feature an elf in a thong

Damn shame

>>43969225
Well I hope the cards you gave out were worth it then.

>>43973675
I just want an intro to the format, not really looking to dominate my lgs.

>>43973696
thanks, I was looking to build something like this after I saw the event deck.
>>43973759
so mono-red burn is pretty viable? is it easy to upgrade to say a tier 2 or 3 after a while?
>>43973777
I like the landfally-ness.

>>43973433
>>43973433
I think SCG is dropping to only 1 Legacy opening next year. Legacy is dying. People will play Modern. Get in now.

>>43973996
>so mono-red burn is pretty viable? is it easy to upgrade to say a tier 2 or 3 after a while?

It's viable. It's a really fucking boring deck to play though IMO.

>>43973777
oh, forgot to ask.
how functional do you think the deck woud be without scapeshift and fetches?
at least for the first few months.

Just traded all my standard stuff for Merfolk. I'm hype to get into modern

>>43973433
Affinity isn't really fun or typical magic.

You either swing in really early with evasion for the kill or your opponent hoses you with one card and you lose. People might tell you there is a lot of thought going on with Robots but honestly, it's just math. Whether you can swing all-in and kill or not.

Is there a site to help build mana base?

I mean, I can find the ones that tell me to count symbols and it'll give the generic "10 swamps 15 plains" answer. Is there on that gives specific lands?

>>43971903
>>43971967
-2 Boros
-1 or 2 path to exile
+1 Lightning Helix
+1 Grim Lavamancer
+1 Mantis Rider

>>43973996
Try tribal company for a Gx tribe, or monogreen stompy.

>>43974228
also maybe a spell pierce. I'm not sold on 4 path to exile but I could be sold on 2

>>43974108
Without Scapeshift you lose half your wincons.
Without fetchlands you lose Khalni Garden Expedition and need something else to fill that spot.

Add more Primal Commands, I guess.

MONORED JEWBUR
>4 Swiftspear
>4 Lightning bolt
>4 Rift bolt
>4 lava spike
>4 shard volley
>4 searing blaze/blood
>4 spark elemental
>0-2 burst lightning
>2-4 hellspark elemental
>2-4 skullcrack
>1-2 thunderous wrath
>1-2 ball lightning
If you get moneys add 4 vexin devils
We're too poor for goblin guides anyways

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>>43974441
>Khalni Garden Expedition
Khalni Heart Expedition, of course.

Captcha: select all mountains

>>43974482
Some cool variants include adding faithless looting and thunderous wraths, up to 4 if you want. It goes well with hellsparks, and theres a madness bolt you can add a few of too.
19 mountains should do.

>>43974247
what about hatebears?
I found a pretty decent list for around $150

>>43974482
You know, I really like this.

>>43974634
>>43974482
Forgot to mention, costs as much as a goblin guide and can kills t4 almost every time, sometimes t3 if you run the miracle card
leyline kills it tho which is why it isn't meta, but it is ~50-60$

>>43967463
Thoughtseize and counter everything until you Revelation for 15?

>>43974710
sb: 2 shattering spree/shatterstorm
1 Flamebreak
2-4 smash to smitherines
2-4 molten rain
2 dragons claw
2 relic of progenetus/torpor orb/pithing needle
skullcracks
1 pyrite spellbomb

you can swap hellsparks for ash zealots or keldon marauders

>>43974215
Ten swamps simply means ten sources of black mana. If you can count how much of what kind of mana each of your lands produces, you should be able to figure it out. Otherwise, just copy decklists.

>>43974228
Grim is a pretty OG tech. I dk if it's still good. And Rider would be real good for jeskai aggro I think.

>>43974482
>>43974710
>>43974978
So this has gotten you some pretty good results / fun?

>>43967245
I'm just trying to make a point that this is a childrens card game played at 70mph on bikes and that it should be take less seriously. If you're actually going to play a competitive deck, be on the level of the pros and go compete, because otherwise you're gaining less than the fun you are not havingl.

>>43976129
Some people think winning is fun but they don't necessarily want to devote time to grinding.

>>43976234
Playing against burn with a deck, which doesn't have enough value to overcome that shit isn't fun. Best fun I had today was playing against weird ass homebrew, which actually was close to win.

>>43976540
>Playing against burn with a deck, which doesn't have enough value to overcome that shit isn't fun
Sideboard better or play a different deck then?

How much of an upgrade is 4x Serum Visions over 4x Gitaxian Probe in UR Twin? Is the difference night and day?

>>43977359
They do different things

>>43977388
I'm running the Probes almost purely to have an effectively 56 card deck. I need filtering bad.

I guess I should rephrase it: how much of an impact does a playset of Serum Visions have on a deck's consistency

>>43958427
Why is everyone talking about faeries just because my friend placed with it at a GP?

>>43958476
Get your Miscreant fix in Pauper. It's plenty viable there.

>>43975706
it is, can't get much more raw aggro value out of a creature with three mana

>>43977485
because we're all secretly gay

>>43975657
I'm stupid so humor me

Fetches counts towards sources right?

>>43977359
It is a huge upgrade. Street Wraith effects have no place in a control deck.

>>43977564
yes. fetches produce that mana in a roundabout way with two cards. that's their benefit.

>>43977564
No. They count as fractions towards sources. A fetch only ends up providing as many sources as the land it gets and should not be counted for more than it should get. For example, a misty rainforest in a BUG deck never provides all three sources as once, and if you intend to fetch duals with it most of the time, you should count it as 2/3rds of a B, U, and G source.

>>43977564
but you have to weigh them not as perfect sources if you're not running shocks or the conditions for checks are there cause they'll only produce one of those types per match.

>>43977620
i like you, keep on keepin on

Which decks don't get fucked by bad matchups?
I want to play on am even field and not just fold due to a deck showing up

>>43977654
those don't exist anon. but i guess you're looking for something with the minimal amount of interaction?

>>43977654
mono black control/midrange

>>43977654
I'd say Tarmo-Twin, Grixis Control, Jund, Merfolk, Abzan, and Elves are probably the most well-rounded decks in terms of matchups.

>>43971641
What's wrong with UWx? I'm making a Blue/White deck and it looks like fun.

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You know this is the best feeling in modern, don't lie.

Comfy modern feels discussion. What beats this in terms of comfy feels for you guys?

>>43977850
Not minimal interaction. Just something where I don't roll over just because the matchup is bad
Kiki Chord any good?

What's the best option for white Enchant removal? There are so many white cards that remove enchants I can't decide on one.

>>43978290
Fracturing Gust lol

>>43978066
Control isn't very popular or successful in Modern, and there's a portion of the playerbase that gets very angry when others bring it up. They usually say stuff like "control is a dead archetype outside of type 2", "any deck without a proactive gameplan is shit" and "magic has evolved past draw-go control decks".

While there is some truth to what they say, I can't help but wonder what inspired their vehemence.

Do cards that say You Have Hexproof mean you personally can't have spells played on you or everything you control can't have spells played on them?

>>43978459
the former

>>43978459
>personally can't have spells played on you
This one

>>43978469
Ok so it keeps you from being burned or negatively enchanted, cool.

>>43970596
hehehehehehehe

that is a good one

>>43977638
Thanks, mang. :3

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post wifes

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>>43978803

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>>43978915
hehe

Do you guys really think KTK fetches will drop after rotation? I can't imagine by much.

>>43964815
Yeah, zoo lists which are just bad Naya burns in general.

>>43978173
Having a removal/Lili to follow it up with. My friend tried to counter my rack with Loxodons and Baloths, succeeded only about in 1 game out of 10.

>>43979234
A couple of buck once the standard diehards sell them to buy new stuff, but not really. Vintage playable man.

>>43979234

>fetches
>drop

Even the biggest standard die-hards I know don't want to sell them. My whole community is like "better hoard your fetches, they will never reprint it again".

>>43978066
Whats in your list? Im working on a UW Memerange list with Ojutai and Gideon.

>>43979407
They have blood moon and less chance of fizzling. But you're kinda right.

1 Ugin

for

1 Noble Hierarch
2 Collected Company

What do you think?

>>43972484
I hate how the deck is built, but that rune snag tech is pretty clever.

>>43973696
I wish infect was as fun as zooicide. Too bad about burn I guess.

>>43980322
28€ for 25€ + 2x 8€ = 28€ for 41€.
You made a killer deal.

Is Scapeshift any good vs Jund?

>>43981398
They need either to Thoughtseize the Scapeshift or they need to go hard on the beatdown to beat you

they can disrupt early ramp with inquisitions but you have inevitability, it probably favors scapeshift but it's not a free matchup

>>43971679
Maybe for Ad Nauseum, but bogles and infect have ~3 different creatures that can kill you.

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Alright, looking for some help with this list.

Not sure what to cut for a V clique, or if I should include one at all. Should I got for the 6/4 combo pieces of go down to 5/3. Should I go up to 4 remands? I feel grixis doesn't want the full 4 but I could see running them.

Anything sideboard change suggestions? The 3 drops in the side i'm not sure about, maybe cut electrolyze for rending volley or roast? With terminate I feel I don't need those so much.

>>43981481
I actually find it pretty good for Scapeshift if you have Bring to Light. They have so many dead cards and you have a lot of interaction.

how does this list look?
I don't really trust myself with building good decks.

>>43983182
It looks a little light, anon. I'd add in a few more cards.

>>43983182
forgot the link:
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/04-12-15-bears/

>>43983197
well, after a bit of playtesting I modified the list. hopefully it's not so trash now. It's hard to make a bastard child of abzan and taxes

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Halt!
The Spooky Police demand you check out this deck.
http://www.mtgfanatic.com/decks/viewdeck.aspx?id=175548&page=1&pagesize=25

>>43983197
No Company?

>>43984286
eh. maybe. It's kinda hard to see what i'd drop for it. maybe a 2-3 of?

>>43979413
Why didn't he counter it by just playing a good deck?

>>43984286
>No Company
This is a cool name for a deck. What's colors is it, /tg/?

>>43960467
I'd rather play Slagstorm than Anger of the Gods

>>43984184
I honestly do not understand. But I'm a new, casual fag so that's given I guess. Care to explain your shenanigans because I want to play with some fucked up decks once I get a hang of the came and get some fun card combos.

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>>43982917
what game or website is this pix coming from ?

>>43984444
Decks aren't allowed to have cool names anymore.

>>43984722
Looks like Magic Online.

I've been playing skred with success so far but I need a bigger game ender. Just a 2 of.

I've been thinking of Ugin, is there something else anyone would recommend?

Pls no Wurmcoil or batterskull. Kolaghan runs rampant in my meta

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/tg/ what is the most broken twin deck/variant out there? I decided It's time for me to play it.
can't beat 'em, join 'em

>>43984329
hue you so fun guy.

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>>43984950
try not to be a bastard

>>43985633
What's Counterspell doing there?

>>43984444
>No Company
it's called U/W voltron

>>43985709
you wana probe away any disenchants or any counters.

its your safety.

most poeple will think your goin to goblin rush or damage them with the impact ... they will all be expecting a krenko, but then blam that deciever hits, then twin, thus the infinite token decivers with the impact...

>>43984950
>twin is unbeatable
>there is a best version among the several floating around
Get over these two ideas, and you'll be a lot better off

>>43985792
Counterspell isn't legal. The fact you don't know this makes it impossible to take you seriously

>>43982917
Looks like lots of combo/control in your meta.

I only run 1 Inquisition main. And I have 4 Skites and 2 Lavamancers in the side.

>>43983197
could someone give me feedback on this list?

>>43985633
Casual go home.

>>43971899
Due to the same reason that Modern is; it's all pretty brainless. WOTC has really dumbed-down the format. I'm tempted too sell off my Modern stuff and build Lands.

>>43985879
>http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/04-12-15-bears/
I get that Siege Rhino/Resto is juicy and all, but I would cut black.

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>>43985854
"legal"
eh, then toss in your favorite spell defense then.
something to stop them from removing that twin or impact....

the fact you dont know how to substitute makes it hard for me to take you sexually

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>>43985900
>00
oh please dont be so cruel

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>>43985957
>spell defense

>>43984913
Koth isn't bad desu.

>>43986242
Well I run 4 koth already. I'm looking for a better mana sink for his -2. The eldrazi are a bit too costly, which leads me to think Ugin would fit well

>>43986314
Akroma

>>43986314
Kargan Dragonlord

>>43984184
That's pretty neat

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>>43985957
Wow anon, here's a neat deck that'll fit your taste then. Unbeatable UW control.

>>43986416
I like this.

>>43986509
Not quite impactful enough and easy to remove

>>43977527
3 toughness is a bit meh, but it is what it is.

>>43977987
>Merfolk
Doesn't merfolk straight up lose to affinity 90% of the time?

>>43986923
Finally, it's a proper Modern general.

>>43987777
Before PPTQs, I meant.

How do you feel about young pyromancer in modern? I'm deciding between him and Grim lavamancer

>>43989231
Depends on what deck you want to throw it in.

>>43984899
When was the last time a deck had a sweet ass name?

Check out my meme deck /tg/

http://deckstats.net/deck-8492201-024660aa0eb41874eb3b483c78f2b530.html

whats it take for elves to be good in this format?

>>43989850
no one playing red or tron

>>43986042

>>/casual/

How do we feel about Jeskai Charm in Delver?

>>43990527
jeskai delver isnt a thing

grixis is better, rakdos charm is better

>>43989861
>red
>most played color in Modern
>literally over HALF the decks in modern run red

So it's my first time double sleeving...

How do I get all this air out? Does it just take time?

>>43991170
Time yeah.

Just put it under a few books overnight if you want it done properly.

>>43990921
I just wanna play it. i dont care if it's a "thing"

>>43991198
Thanks

>>43984577
You basically give away a bunch of creatures and artifacts so you can win.

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>Stoneforge Mystic promo for GP

I want to believe

#freestoneforgemystic

>>43992607
But why? she wouldn't go in any decks

>>43993118
I'd throw her in hatebears

>>43992607
one day

>>43993118
junk could run her with the swords of x and y

or maybe people would just straight up remake caw blade

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>>43993196
my picture didnt upload :(

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So, I know this isn't modern, but what do you think of it?
It's based on the Maralen/Profusion/Sire combo of not having cards ever.

>>43993767
If I take out psychotic haze, strength of lunacy, and violent eruption for one more each of the core combo, it'll actually be modern.

Looking to build turbo fog, trying to go U/W, maybe esper for notion thief. Any tips? I'm trying to use manlands/luminarch ascension as a primary win con with Jace -10 for the mill kill.

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>>43994273
>Turbo Fog
>No green

whats the best place to buy cards from?

>>43982917
A lot of lists are starting to drop Tasigur altogether, my suggestion as a Grixis player is this

Add Rise//Fall, drop Tasigur, more Dispel, more K-command, add baby Jace if you got him, cut a Pestermite, add more removal, cut the Cryptics they are performing fucking terribly in this meta full of Dispel at the moment, cut a single Splinter Twin it won't fuck you up too badly, move a thoughtseize into the main.

>>43994273
you are describing u/w control, not turbo fog. Turbo fog is fogs/howling mine to mill your opponent out for the win.

>>43994470
for best prices? tcgplayer usually, depending on shipping your LGS might do better

for supporting your local scene? buy from your LGS if their prices are reasonable

>>43994609
That's the way I used to play it, but luminarch ascension gives a faster clock and you have to play less bad cards. I'm trying for a more controlling turbofog to give it a better matchup against tron and non combat damage based combo

>>43994587
This is true stupidity

>>43995829
Well it's mostly because the beatdown plan isn't a great idea right now with decks like Zoo, Jund and Abzan running rampant right now.

Grixis Twin players are backing full out of the delve creature plan and playing the game like the grixis 'jund' control lists, ie lotsa value creatures like Snap, Jace, Pia & Kiran, etc etc. And a shit ton of two for one cards like Kommand and Rise//Fall

It's doing good and honestly that's the best you can do if you're going into a tournament blind or online event

>>43996041
When the fair midrange decks come out to play, I sleeve up some Esper Control. Nothing makes a Zoo player more sad than hearing "I cast Supreme Verdict".

>>43970427
>>43970255

Don't this guy clearly his fedora is tight

Is Wurmcoil not that great for Modern?

>>43996336
Depends on the deck you're running it in.
If you're in a Path heavy meta it isn't.

Are Blightsteel Colossus or Darksteel Colossus too expensive to be really useful?

>>43995224
Then what you're playing is not turbofog.

Is Myr tribal any good? They seem to have interesting shit going on with them. They can ramp mana and generate Tokens, and mix some Darksteel shit in there and they can become Indestructible. Are they viable?

>tfw replacing Khans fetches with Onslaught

>>43996173
they run boros charm now for that. I won the very turn after a verdict more times than i've lost because of a verdict.

Going to a large tournament in a few months where I'm expecting a lot of twin and other various U/R control/tempo variants, as well as a reasonable amount of Jund and burn. (Very non-creature heavy). Any ideas for what would thrive in that sort of meta?

I kinda wanna build hatebears

>>43996478
If you really want, you could use one off in tron. Hard to ramp into kuldotha in modern without tron and at that point you might as well play tron builds.

>>43997565
Any artifact related tutors that exist that could get one out on turn 3 or 4? blightsteel is the raddest dude I want to make him work

>>43997437
Merfolk seems like a really good pick for a meta like that.

>>43997604
Like said, Kuldotha Forgemaster can combo Blightsteel on board and if you pack the deck up with lightning greaves, he can seriously fuck things up. Technically you could back the deck with recurring artifacts and stirrings to find him fast along tron lands to get him on board as early as turn 4 (or 3 with god hand), but is it any way better than tron decks?

>>43997604
Your problem is that you're doing what Tron does, but really badly.

>>43997913
Modern is a gametype where instead of using creatures that are rad you just use cards that are expensive. I see this now.

>>43997927
The tron lands aren't expensive at all.

>>43997927
literally wat

>>43997927
I find Grizzly Bears rad. Wait, you mean they aren't competitively viable? THIS FORMAT IS FUCKING SHIT

>>43998005
Damn straight

>>43996581
>a pile of howling mines and holy days
>not turbo fog

>>43959514
Somebody did well at a GP with this: http://www.channelfireball.com/videos/channel-pardee-time-modern-ub-faeries/

Although it's not a full on faeries deck, it's more a UB aggro control deck with tasigur that happens to have faeries in it.

>>43960398
So this guy + anything that gives haste and mana elves?

>>43994470
Facebook Sale groups > Magiccardmarket.eu > ebay > tcgplayer > literally anything else

>>43997638
Doesn't merfolk just lose to twin if they have the combo in hand? Or is that not a concern and mainboard you'd have an advantage and can sideboard hate g2? (Fish is one of the only t1 decks that I've never seen being played, not even on streams in recent times).

>>43998308
Harbinger of Tides does a lot of work

>>43993118
>>43993118
They'll come up with a new Jeskai or Esper Stoneblade deck.

Which will make white a desirable color.

>>43998338
It doesn't. They'll just tap your fourth land.

>>43999022
>hardcasting harbinger in an aether vial deck

>>43999022
Its no abrupt decay, but harbinger gives you a mainboard way to disrupt them which helps a lot
And if you're expecting the combo you can just float mana and cast the harbinger anyway. You won't 2for1, but as the aggressive deck in the matchup the extra turn might be all you need

after sideboard you have spellskites, spell pierce, dismember, vapor snag etc

Unrelated to harbinger, if you get lucky sometimes g1 you can cut them off red with spreading seas too

>>43999061
Then they will tap the vial with the EOT Pestermite and then combo off the next turn. You need to have both a vial and 4+ lands for hardbringer to stop the combo.

>>43998707
SFM and whatever she just tutored will die to kolaghan command.

Side note, does anyone have experience trading in real cards for mtgo? I have a legacy deck that's just collecting dust, and I could afford like three decks on MODO with it. I wanna make the switch desu

>>44000164
Sell your real cards for real money, then with that money you buy MtgO Tix and buy whatever you want.

>>44000310
That's what I was afraid to hear. Selling legacy staples for full price is near impossible.

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Any delverfags here? Too poor for snapcasters (hopefully gonna get some chinese fakes if i can find the guy) so i have 4 cards left. What do?

Also what are your thoughts on
>2 dispel, less?
and
>3 manaleak, more?
I don't like remand in my local meta
And im saving up for a lavamancer

>>44000386
meant to add i have 19 lands
cards on the right are the cards in question wat do /b/

>>44000164
Pucatrade is going to add MTGO to Real Card support, so when that starts it could be worth looking into.

>>44000386
I caved in and bought my last snapcaster a few days ago. Managed to trade to me 3 snapcasters, gone around for 2 months trying to find the last one.

>>44000334
I think mtgo traders buys real cards for mtgo credit, but not sure at what rates they buy at, I'd expect less than just selling them separately but worth checking.

>>44000407
>/b/

>>44000482
Lucky man! Treat your chinkcasters well my friend, and they'll do the same to you.

>>44000495
wait this isn't /b/ fuck wrong board
>>43998338
him and hangarback are the best cards in ori

>>43989850

Good fast game 1 win and then lots of anti burn and sweeper tech game 2.

>>44000482
I'm pretty skeptical of over the Internet trading. Is it any good?

>>44000485
Thanks man, I'll check it out

>>43997218
>Zoo player is holding boros charm
>EoT Esper Charm, mind rot you
>You're zoo, so you've probably dumped your hand by now
>Either cast it for value or discard it
>Verdict
>You're hellbent
:^)

They need to print new walker characters. The current ones just do the same shit each time only slightly alerted.
Not to mention they're usually strictly worse than an older printing. Looking at you Lili

>>44000386
Need some Jace, the Merfolk Looter

>>44001471
>80$
>needs some
no way jose
I can't afford snapcasters or lil jace.
I can afford Ral Zarek

>>44001471
I love this card. You can tell who's bad at magic so quickly. Anyone recommending this card is horrible and should be ignored

>>44001687
Are you kidding? It's a great card

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>>44001734
He's a lot of value packed into 1U but he's slown and I'd rather 4 snapcasters. Would love to replace frost walker with him if I had him, would rather snaps above all tho.

>>44001687
So, everyone playing Grixis should be ignored? Fine by me.

>>44001103
New Liliana is legacy playable. I'm just saying. Or what, is flashing back Cabal Therapy by sacrificing Snapcaster Mage, then -2ing to reanimate Snapcaster Mage not enough value for you?

>>44002185
What legacy deck wants Flip Lilly?

I'm not saying the power level isn't there, but what kind of deck has a hole that screams "Man flip Lilly would totally patch up this deck's weaknesses"?

>>44002273
UBx goodstuff variants? Siege Rhino never patched up Junk's weaknesses.

>>44002368
BUG Delver/Shardless BUG are the main UBx goodstuff decks, and I don't think Flip Lilly earns a place over Lilliana of the Veil in those decks. It'd have to be something incredibly specific that demands something like flip Lilly over the other Lilly

>>44002447
Perhaps if the sacrifice becomes less relevant she could see play.

Is the restore balance deck actually good or is it just a meme deck

new one

>>44002589