Assuming the Tau replace the Imperium as the dominant power.

What's with all the Tau cocksucking in 40k lately?

They just become necrons 2.0

>>43897565
I wouldn't really care so long as GW keeps producing new, awesome models with neat and interesting rules to play them with, and allows me to continue playing as I do now.

>>43897565

>implying this would ever happen

Taufags are the worst.

>>43897768

Considering the Tau faction is animu-inspired, that's hardly surprising.

>>43897768
ell, now that their blocked behind a firewall, they could grow to massive proportions completely unchecked.

>>43897565

No problem, if the Tau get their own disaster (like Fall of the Eldar and Horus Heresy)

>>43897905
>tau drones begin to defect
>still belive in the greater good, but that they have to get rid of the tau to do so
>tau have to fight their own tech.

It could be an interesting way to make humans more sympathetic actually. Stop being the evil empire and instead be the heroic underdogs.

>>43898169
>Imperium
>evil

HERESY! *BLAM*

>>43897565
Dropping the setting

>>43897565
Disinterest in the setting as a whole

I read that the tau just took lost millions of warriors and stuff in the damocles gulf but the thread died before i could ask, how well can tau take a loss like that?
I know that half the crusade fleet died but the imperium has taken bigger hits than that and bounced back, is there any fluff that states the tau population?

>>43897565
Mild disinterest. I like all the sub factions of the Imperium

>>43898694

Tau grow up faster than humans and their empire is quite large. Should it overcome without major damage.

>>43898856
><100 inhabited planets, and that's including their client races
>quite large.

>>43898948

This. There are probably more Kroot inhabited worlds in the galaxy than there are worlds in the Tau Empire.

>>43898948
>>43899005
So how badly would these losses affect them?
I dont know if the writers thought about how much a sudden massive decline in population might affect the tau empire, such as relying more on auxillaries, or developing cloning or advanced reproduction methods.

>>43899083
Its a big loss, but they do have hundreds of worlds. Even if all of those only have a billion people each, millions of casualties aren't insurmountable.

>>43898948
>>43899146

Now I'm confused.

>>43899273
The tau dont have many worlds compared to the imperium and their empire is kinda small, but it still has a pretty big population, just not when you compare it to other races.

Finally the stagnation will break and something interesting and worthwhile will happen with the setting.
But since the majority consists from faglords like >>43898373>>43898440 setting will remain a boring shithole till the dawn of GW.

>>43897565
Couldn't be any worse than team Mary Sue

>>43897565

Glad I got out while I still could. Just take my Skitarii and step out quietly, never looking back.

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>>43897586
>What's with all the Tau cocksucking in 40k lately?
It's been that way since the beginning. Only now with the Mont'ka campaign they are coming out of the woodwork.

That and the hardcore Imperialfags, though that isn't surprising.

Those are the only 2 fanbases that take 40k WAAAAY too seriously.

>>43897968
>just a other iron man rebellion.

Come on that's a bit boring isn't it. I'm all for the Tau having a fall of some kind but at least make it something interesting.

>>43899558
I imagine it would have something to do with the ethereals, theres obviously something weird about them, and the maybe the subject races.
Some sort of civil war as the tau put more pressure on their client races, and theres also the farsight enclaves too.

>>43899083
The Thirds Sphere gave the Tau access to Hive Worlds and I'm pretty sure even Forge Worlds to increase their production output exponentially. It would have allowed the Empire to seriously consider rapid expansion with the amount of resources/goods produced.

Losing all that after investing so much to get them back to top efficiency(after blowing them up to conquer them), that is a pretty large setback. Not to mention the millions of Tau in not just the workforce that went up with it. Imperials know how to cope with such losses because they deal with it all the time. Pretty sure this is the first time the Tau has had to deal with such a large loss of territory. And worse off their space pope is dead meaning the higher ups are scrambling to figure out how to fix shit before they can fix shit.

I would probably stop playing. Generic science fiction army #238762324 has no appeal to me.

Tau were a mistake.

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>>43899558
More likely

>Schism in the Empire
>With Aun'va dead, Farsight made an even greater hero to the Tau that no amount of propaganda can silence, there is a division in the Tau
>Farsight blames the Ethereals for such a horrible loss and demands they be removed from power
>Half the Empire sides with him while the other half call him a psychopath
>Civil war with Farsight trying to assert control of the Empire, and Shadowsun fighting to keep him bottled up
>Both sides secretly aided by the Inquisition to keep the war going.
>Orks show up because Orks
>Ethereals accept aid from anyone willing to help, even if that help comes from a darker influence
>Maybe Chaos tainted Tau?

>>43897565
Suicide

>>43899745
C'tan shard, using tyranids in some way, or necron tech imho.

>>43899795
That's just silly. Like those Japanese that killed themselves when Jackie Chan got a girlfriend level of silly.

>>43899821

Dragon schism?

>>43899745
Then Farsight joins the Imperial, boosting the Imperials tech and having a new alliance with a xeno group.

>>43899821
Nah see I've been thinking by bringing Chaos into the mix, that would give the Imperium an excuse to have a physical presence in the war.

Chaos Wizards experimenting on Fire Caste warriors, subjecting them to brainwashing techniques and submerging them in some chemical cocktail to increase aggression all to create the perfect slave-soldier for CSM. , slowly wresting control of the Empire away from the Ethereals and more towards Warlord <Some Chaos Name>. Imperium is there to stop that because the last thing they need is Tau tech being used by Chaos.

>>43897565
Such a lust for bad sales

Whooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

>>43899888
Maybe the ethereals themselves become corrupted and begin spreading chaos worship around?
I can imagine fire warriors willingly pledging for khorne, despite not engaging in glorious close quarters combat.

>>43899869
So there would be Chaos Taus and The Imperium of Man would get better guns that do diddley, and space marines gets tougher/faster armor.

>>43898948
A million dead soldiers is a drop in the ocean for an empire of 100 planets.

>>43900060
Hell Germany lost 2 million in WW1 and were able to put out a reasonable performance a few decades later in WW2...

That's just one country. Not a world. Let alone 100 worlds.

>>43897565
Yanno what. If you want to take a turn fighting the infinite legions of Chaos I won't even be mad.

>>43899938
>>43899962
That's what I was thinking. Kinda like when the Tau accepted help from the Dark Eldar and in return they Dark Eldar turned an entire sept all into homunculi

>>43900085
>>43900060
Yes but the thing is even Germany has known crushing defeat before. The first time, it devastated them. Same with the Tau. This is the first time they've taken so many losses, not in just soldiers but planets as well.

>>43897565
so what are they going to do when chaos gets involved

>>43900248
Die alot.
Then they will becom cynical and hardened to the point where they are pretty much the imperium as it is now.

>>43897905
>>43897968
what about a resurgence of the Mon'Tau?

>>43898694
>>43898856
>>43898948
>>43899005
>>43899083
>>43899146
>>43899351
the question is how will the Tau empires population handle it the imperium has a martyrdom culture but i'm not sure the Tau people could handle that kind of loss for so little gain

>>43900411
I reckon that it would lead to them becoming much more bitter and oppressive, having to fight long gruelling wars against other sapient beings, who they were willing to work with.

>>43900248
Ethereals will fight each other and Farsight over who should lead the Tau now.
>Some get help from Chaos Wizards that smell opportunity.
Chaos Tau everywhere!

>>43898169
>Chaos
>Necrons
>Tyranids
>Claims humans are the evil ones.

This is how I know you're an early 20s American with mediocre middle class parents.

ITT: bitches crying about how their bullshit OP faction isn't OP enough any more

>>43900676
Are the necrons and tyranids evil?
Most necrons have no free will or thought whatsoever, and the nids, as far as we know, are just animals doing what comes naturally.

>>43897565
Eh. I might actually be willing to play the tabletop RPG then when it's proposed rather than saying "not a chance", I guess.

I think a more interesting question would be:

>What if they introduced a wide variety of different alien factions (like 6-8 new alien-based armies) rather than dozens of flavors of humans and space marines.
And the answer is: "I just might go pick up 40k again."

But then, I find the Imperium to be basically the most obnoxious and irritating piece of IP in gaming, so, that's no surprise.

>>43900726
>it's literally in their nature to be destructive and murderous
>so they're not evil.

I'll be you get a B average and go to a middle-ranking school too. You're probably considered getting a tumblr.

>>43900726
>and the nids, as far as we know, are just animals doing what comes naturally.

The Hive Mind has been described as intelligent in various places, and is able to rationalise and make informed decisions. It doesn't just act on animal instinct. The old 2nd/3rd edition era short story "Hive Fleet Horror" also described the Hive Mind as having a distinct goal; to ensure that the Tyranid race existed forever by forcibly harvesting new genetic material, which it could use to both refresh its own genetic code and quickly adapt to any threat it came across.

And while most Necrons have no free will, the ones which do are the ones who's actions affect the universe, and they are neither peaceful nor benevolent.

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Tau weebs are the fucking worst. Stop crying about your gay OP faction. Fucking hell, you fags are more diehard about this shit than actual Tau. Holy fucking Emperor.

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>>43898694
>is there any fluff that states the tau population?

I doubt there are any official numbers - and even if there were, it would probably be best not to rely on them too heavily, because GW - but according to Planetstrike: Ork meteor base applied to Tau capital city = several billion dead Tau. Though the only certain thing you can take from that is that one Tau world had a population numbering in the billions.

(There are bound to be other such examples elsewhere, this is just one that comes to mind.)

I say good for the plucky little tau. I'm sure the fluff up until their dominance would be full of glorious last stands and line holding. Ultimately here's how I think think it would shake out
>imperium fights tooth and nail, but gets beaten back to imperium core worlds.
>Terra(obvi) Armageddon, Cadia, Major forge worlds all remain strongholds
>Proximity to forge worlds greatly simplifies supply lines
>finally enough food and ammo for everyone
>Imperial Navy now maintains the Imperial blockade, and do so effectively since now they aren't prolong an area a million times bigger than they have ships for.
>space marines are now far fewer and mostly fleet based, focus on boarding missions above all else.
>eventually fire warriors are a rarity on the battlefield. Converted humans do moat of the heavy lifting.
I'd be interested to see how the tau deal with Chaos as well.
Thoughts?

>>43901095
*patrolling
*most

>>43901095

Thoughts? Sounds like a shitty anime fanfiction.

>>43901095
They'd get fucked up by the 13th Black Crusade.

>>43900161
Source?

>>43900785
>hating humanity this much

C U C K
U
C
K

>>43900676
no race in 40k are the good guys

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>>43901624
5th edition Dark Eldar codex, fun times.

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>>43900787

>>43901647
Sucking this much

C O C K
O
C
K

>>43898169
>Humans
>ever evil
>ever
Fucking xenos loving bitch nigga fuccboi.

>>43899410
>interesting
>worthwhile
>tau

One of these things is not like the others.

>>43897814
>Hell, now that they're blocked behind a firewall, they could expand east and feed the Hive fleets completely unchecked.

>>43901951
>being a misanthrope
S U B - H U M A N
U
B
-
H
U
M
A
N

Tua fags turn into bigger cunts until gw nurfs their codex to keep the space marine/guard players around and the eldar fags just sit back and drink everyone's tears.

>>43901951
From this statement, we can deduce that you don't like humanity.
This generally stems from a hatred of oneself, and more specifically certain qualities that one does not like but has no control over.
Your post uses homosexual perjoratives to attack those you disagree with. Such verbal attacks indicate that you find homosexuality unappealing.
Hatred of gay buttfucking is generally known to stem from seeing oneself in gay buttfucking scenarios.
Therefore we can deduce that you, anon, hate the quality of yourself that you use to attack others: specifically, your closet homosexuality.

Or, in short: you're a faggot, faggot.

>>43901647
I Like humanity just fine. I love the shit out of Mass Effect and Halo.

I just hate religious fanatics/zealots. I find them insufferable.

As for wanting more kinds of aliens, I do not feel a need for 30 differently painted space marines armies with different rules; and I'd like the variety.

>>43902215
Not him, but I love humanity but hate fags because teh gay is icky; what does that make me?

>>43902221
>I just hate religious fanatics/zealots. I find them insufferable.

>Not worshiping the spirit of man as your god
>not believing in the humanity that believes in each and every one of its sons, including you
C U C K
U
C
K

>>43900490

So they are the love child of the Vietnamese and North Koreans?

>>43902242
Someone who has not watched enough bdsm porn.

>>43902221
>Mass Effect
>"No, Cerberus! I won't let you take resources that could help alien scum grow stronger! You're militant terrorists who want to see subhuman filth die! That's disgusting!"

>Halo
>hahahahaha that fucking scorpion
>seriously that tank looks ridiculous
>"The aliens have declared a cease-fire agains humanity, and have been driven back to their homeworlds. But instead of glassing them from orbit, we're going to let them pull power play after power play until they're united enough to fight back again!"

Great examples, cunt. Purge yourself in cleansing flame, and spare the rest of us your self-hating whinging.

>>43902299
>BDSM
>not degenerate
M I S S I O N A R Y
I N
T H E
D A R K

>>43902242
The bottom.

>>43902215
>implying the fictional imperium is actual humanity

>>43902377
>implying there's another human race in the 40K setting that you could use as your misanthropy-proxy

>>43902267
>Worshipping others, rather than being man enough to believe in your own ability to achieve greatness.
B I T C H
I
T
C
H

>>43902304
>Self-hating
I like myself just fine, I just see the emperor's worshippers as a bunch of rabidly-frothing-at-the-mouth retards. It's like they took the most pathetic scum of humanity and filled the galaxy with them.

You want better examples? Sure.

Andromeda.
>Basically all of the humans but the nietczheans, and even they eventually stepped up to fight off the Abyss.

Stargate
>Saving the galaxy from its alien oppressors, one tyrant after another.

Now there's some human Spirit.

>>43902335
Nigger

>>43902377
>Implying the Imperium isn't awesome
Let me guess, you believe in stuff like "Human rights" and "democracy", right?

>>43902407
>High Lords of Terra are the most pathetic scum of the galaxy
Well, you're not far wrong.

>>43902397
FICTION
Might as well call you racist for your obvious xenophobia

>>43902415
Not that guy, but I'd say those are the more likable aspects of humanity, yeah.

As opposed to holding up a ridiculous parody of everything wrong with humanity as though it were a good thing.

>>43902415
OH MAMMY
H

M
A
M
M
Y

>>43902407
>Worshipping others

>Implying worshiping humanity is worshiping others
>Having such a superiority complex that you believe yourself greater than your brothers
I N D I V I D U A L I S T
S C U M

>>43902415
>Let me guess, you believe in stuff like "Human rights" and "democracy", right?
I'm really more concerned with things like 'plot', and 'not utter bullshit'

Same reason I hate superman

This thread has convinced me to stay away from 40K and it's fanbase.

>>43902442
>Everything wrong with humanity
>'wrong'

m8

>>43897905
I actually would like this idea
>Tau have too many Humans, Kroot, and Vespid in their empire relative to the Tau
>Client species demand equal representation
>Mass revolt of client species, Tau forced to carry out extremely brutal measures to control the rebellion, some Tau commanders join the rebels either for personal gain, because they believe the war is unwinnable, or because they believe that giving other species equality is for the best.

Seems better than a men of iron mk 2.

>>43902511
It is some asswipe who escaped his containment board false flagging /pol/ memes.

>>43902532
>Australia

Excellent example of something wrong with humanity

>>43902473
>Having such a superiority complex that you believe yourself greater than your brothers
Eh, just the ones too stupid to think for themselves.

>Disliking individuality
C O M M U N I S T
P R O P A G A N D I Z I N G
F I L T H

>>43902532
>Believing Crazed Fervor to absurd beliefs & persecution in the name of those same beliefs is a good thing.

L A U G H A B L E

>>43902511
Probably for the best, really.

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>>43897565
rip and tear as per usual, though with a much greater factor of disappointment as my opponent rips apart like paper mache while also being unable to provide me a worthy challenge in combat

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>>43902588

How edgy.

>>43902588
>Believing crazed fervor to absurd beliefs and persecution in the name of those beliefs is a BAD thing
L I T E R A L A F R I C A N

>>43902588
>Implying I'm a fucking pinko
F A L S E
D I C H O T O M Y

>Believing Crazed Fervor to absurd beliefs & persecution in the name of those same beliefs is a good thing.

>Implying living life entirely selfishly, without devotion to a higher cause and a grander design is at all a noble way to live
P L E B E I A N

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>Without Number
>Threat from beyond the Galaxy
>IG and Orks still able to field more models than we ever could for the same points

One day, Tyranids will actually be viable...
One day we will be able to pull off turn 1 Assaults again...

>>43902671
>thinking living for others is a valuable trait
D I S G U S T I N G
L E N I N I S T
C O R P S E
W O R S H I P P E R

>>43902703
>implying
A man who lives for himself only betters the life of one man, a man who lives for others betters the lives of many!

R O T H B A R D
Z E A L O T

>>43902671

This. Not having your god be the spirit of man is pretty fucking dumb. The Emperor is just a useful picture of what man should be. And his failure a reminder that even a living God of a man is still just a man.

>>43902647
>Rational thought is edgy.
U WOT M8?

>>43902671
>Implying you can't be part of something larger than your own selfish wants unless you become a mouth-frothing rabid dog who just does what they're told.
>Implying becoming a mouth-frothing rabid dog who just does what they're told is somehow noble.
R I D I C U L O U S

>>43902726
>believing the life of oneself is not worth more than the life of another

S E L F
H A T I N G
O T H E R K I N
S O C I A L
J U S T I C E
W A R R I O R

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>>43902696
please,please stop. i want it too but we just won't get it and it makes me sad

>>43899745
I think it was mentioned that the Tau have developed an unhealthy fascination with Imperial warp technology. In the "Return of the Primarchs" writefaggotry that was made on 4chan a while ago the idea was that a civil war occurred in the Tau Empire because they modified their eugenics program in order to gain increased warp sensitivity which opened the door to chaos corruption.

>>43902805
>while Farsight is slowly corrupted from within by his obviously-not-a-laer-blade, he destroys those who have been corrupted from without

Well, this could be awesome.

>>43902757
>Implying holding yourself above all is somehow compatible with being dedicated to a greater purpose.

I N F E R I O R

>>43902762
>believing the life of oneself is not worth more than the life of another

>implying individualists not only hold themselves above others, but also hold themselves above the nation and all of man
H O R R I D
L I T T L E
C R E A T U R E

>there are people who are so self loathing and corrupted that they see it as bad to find spiritual contentment in yourself and your fellow man

Feel free to stop posting any time. Why do you hate people and yourself? Why is it wrong to want what is only natural and right? Why fight the next wave of spirituality taking the place of old dogma and worship?

>>43902838
>implying that generosity is the mark of the strong, and not that of those who are too weak to aid themselves

S Y C O P H A N T I C
D E L U S I O N S
O F
G R A N D E U R

>>43902845
>Implying I've been talking about literal spirituality
R E L I G I O N
A N D
D O G M A
I S
B U T
I M M U T A B L E
C U L T U R E

>>43902881
>implying it isn't better to imagine oneself a giant, and to reach for the stars, than to convince oneself that they are a worm and are fit to only grovel in the mud
B R O K E N
S H E L L
O F
A
M A N

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>>43902767
It's so bad that my LGS let us use house rules for my Hive Fleet.
+6" on all Synapse, in range also gets Feel No Pain
Free to choose certain mutations from the old 3rd Edition Codex Tyranids

Still being squashed by Ork DAKKA, IG Tarpits and Pie Plate Droppers, AdMech everything, Tau firelines, Eldar anything, Chaos everything... The only fair fight these days is with other 'Nids or newbie Space Marine players.

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>>43897565

>Caring about child races


Hey Tau! I hear your women love taking Eldar D (cannons)

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>>43897565
That firewall isn't the first time the AdMech pull something straight out of the DAoT. They tried closing the Eye of Terror with a "reality bomb" once. It failed but most likely because the Eye was too large. The firewall makes me think the AdMech is pulling this sort of stuff out more because they know humanity's time is nearly out and they might as well attempt to do something flashy to delay the inevitable. Or because it might be cool to test it before they die. May God Emperor have mercy on the Tau if the AdMech pull out the truly horrifying stuff to test.
>>43898169
Say what? Here's a little bit of what the tau did recently:
Half of the Fire Caste forces on Perfectia were sent in aid in the explotation of the Dovar System - suppressing or eradicating native populations

>>43902903
>implying a worm can be greater than anything that stands in its path

Y O U
F E A R
T H E
T R U T H

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>>43902997
You have to die anyway. How can you call yourself superior when you need gems to keep your soul safe?

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>>43902882

If you hate man and what you are then go die. Stop being self loathing and cowardly and bite the bullet, worm. Because you may hate what you are and mad that we are dominant over all else on this earth, but we still survive without you. We continue on despite constant struggle. Take your nonsense to the grave with you then if you're so confident that we, and you, are so unworthy.

>>43903007
>suppressing or eradicating native populations
I fail to see why this is a bad thing.

>M41
>implying Imperialism is wrong

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>>43903047
>not believing in the you that believes you can overcome all
T H E R E
A R E
N O
L I M I T S
O N L Y
O B S T A C L E S

>>43903063
>posting HFY
N O W
Y O U
D O N E
F U C K E D
U P

I was actually the other guy anon, humanity is too good for metaphysical nonsense

>>43903007
Actually, it was a smaller warp storm, the Gyre or something. Out in the bumfuck part of space, but it had enclosed a Forge World millenia ago, and the Mechanicus wanted it back.

It worked. The warp storm was cleared and the Forge World (now infested with Chaos-worshippers) revealed, though the bomb was not big enough to clear all of the storm, limiting ship movement in the area.

This is a weapon that causes warp entities to spontaneously cease to exist. It works. And the Mechanicus knows how to build more, and make them bigger.

The Despoiler is fucked. The Imperial Webway can be closed and secured. The Emperor's vigil can end.

Mechanicus science is the best in the galaxy.

>>43903107
>only believing you can overcome, not knowing
I
P I T Y
Y O U R
E X I S T E N C E

>>43903069
The Tau are the aggressors. The Tau are becoming more belligerent and have an unhealthy obsession in the making with the Imperium's Warp technology. The second the get a Warp Drive they're probably going to mess up and cause a Second Age of Strife.
>>43903111
Are you talking about the time where some cogboys had to fight off some Iron Warriors and a DP? That STC might have the Chaos Gods fooling around with it.
>Mechanicus science is the best in the galaxy.
Catholic Space Nazi super science you mean.

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>>43903051

Its coming to 40k and ooh boy the mon-keigh better prepare their collective anus. We're going in dry.

>>43903126
>implying not even attempting to overcome is a much, much sadder existence
BETTER TO SHOOT FOR THE MOON AND MISS THAN TO REMAIN IN THE MUD.

>>43903162
>The Tau are the aggressors.
So?

>>43903107

>not liking hfy

P A T H E T I C C R E A T U R E.

>>43903162
No, they had the STC well before they got to the daemon prince. That's how the IWs were able to show up, actually, since they couldn't get through the Warp storm to loot the forge world either.

>implying Catholic Space Nazis are not fucking awesome as shit
Why do you think I'm using the line from the literal Nazi?

>>43903197
>Implying I don't like it
>Implying you posting it won't just draw self-hating European shitposters to it like a moth to flame
C H O O S E
Y O U R
B A T T L E S

>>43903176
Slaanesh is still alive. It's under lock and keep and the other Chaos Gods don't really seem to mind.
>>43903195
They're thinking they can take this hellhole of a galaxy away from humanity. This is Imperium's hellhole. They own the deed.
>>43903217
>No, they had the STC well before they got to the daemon prince. That's how the IWs were able to show up, actually, since they couldn't get through the Warp storm to loot the forge world either.
You would think a Sorcerer or the DP could have pulled a Moses.

>implying Catholic Space Nazis are not fucking awesome as shit
>Why do you think I'm using the line from the literal Nazi?
I never said they weren't awesome.

>>43903162
>The second the get a Warp Drive they're probably going to mess up and cause a Second Age of Strife.

But that would advance the plot.

>>43903069
>calls the IMPERIUM of Man evil because muh xenos rights
>then defends imperialism

>>43903272
Now I know who's going to start the 40k End Times.

>>43903234

>implying there's anything wrong with being open for your love of humanity

I M P E R I A L
T R U T H
N O W

N O
M O R E
S H A M E

>>43903269
Maybe. But even Tzeentchians can't make perfect predictions, and this is a weapon that quite literally fucks Chaos up the butt.

Even if this is a Cunning Scheme, it's pretty fucking dangerous to hand your mortal enemies the magical nuke of chaos-slaying.

>>43903176
good question,

what symbol is on the bottom there? anyone got an ID?

>>43903279
>Implying you aren't very, very confused on which anon I am

>>43903316
>implying they aren't annoying enough to warrant special circumstances

>>43903195
>implying we're not literally spouting the same "be greater" sympathies from opposite directions
. . .
M Y
S I D E
I S
B E T T E R
T H A N
Y O U R S

>>43903344
>Even if this is a Cunning Scheme, it's pretty fucking dangerous to hand your mortal enemies the magical nuke of chaos-slaying.
These are the Chaos Gods we're talking about here. Logical and reason is heresy in their eyes.

>>43903355

The horned rat. The AoS replacement for Slaanesh.

>>43903381
I suppose being the God of Change does not necessitate also being the God of Coherent Logic.

That's what the Dragon is for

>>43903369
M Y
S I D E
I S
G R A N D E R
T H A N
Y O U R S

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>>43903355

The Horned Rat/Skaven God of Warpstone Shekels

>>43903406
>I suppose being the God of Change does not necessitate also being the God of Coherent Logic.
>Tzeentch needing logic
>implying Tzeentch needs logic

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>>43903408
M Y
P O T I O N S
A R E
T O O
S T R O N G
F O R
Y O U
T R A V E L E R

>>43903381
Remind me again how they differ from the Imperium?

>>43903464

>tumblr filename

L I T E R A L L Y
A
S J W

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>>43897565
Holy shit, the Imperium got wrecked so hard that the Tau are the only power left.

I'm not going to the galactic west any time soon.

>>43903464
>Implying I don't need your potions

>>43903481

One follows the Emperor and one doesn't.

>>43903481
The Imperial needs to relearn logic and reason while the Chaos Gods find structured order disgusting.

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>>43903495

>mfw 43903495 is that autistic

>>43903566
>Implying we aren't all autists
Where the fuck do you think we are?

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>>43903566
>mfw you can't see an obvious joke for what it is
>mfw you probably typed that poster number out
>mfw you're probably from Warseer

>>43897586
>lately

Seriously, though, what're the Tau going to do about guarding the Eye of Terror?

>>43903063
B A S E D
A
S
E
D

>>43903007
Whats this firewall thing?

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>>43903686
Sterilize it or something I guess.

>>43897905
>>43899558
Kroot uprising when?

>>43902304
To be fair, you could be super xenophobic in the first ME game.

I missed that.

>>43903686
They're fucked.

I'm pretty sure they don't even know what the warp is right know, iirc

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>>43902407
Yes my child, you dont need the puny imperium to achieve true greatness.

All those xenophobic bigots who oppose mutation and alien technology just slow humanity down amirite
We need to become more progressive so that change can happen, you voted for Obama, right go.. i mean friend

>>43897565
get pissed - why are my targets harder to corruot now?
And they have no GLORIOUS MELEE! Killing them is boring as fuck - there's no real challenge apart from that red dude with the sword who got his ass handed to him by Kharn last century.
Lorgar, why have you abandoned me?

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It would be OK if future Tau become something like this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xVBj4XIx-Ug

>>43902696

You never played in the glory days of 4th ed did you?

Bugzilla was one of the top army lists out there.

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>>43902973

Awww.

Look at the nid player bitching about how sucky his army is.

How cute.

>>43903686
They'll study/die at it.

As dim as they are when it comes to warp sensitivity, being that close to unfiltered reality bending energy is bound to screw with them.

>>43903686

Become Necrons.

>>43905832
Nidzilla was fucking awful and deserved to get kneecapped. Fuck that playstyle. And fuck GW for enabling it in other codexes even now.

genestealer armies were where it was at

Would tau even be able to handle chaos or would their collective minds snap like a twig?

>>43897565
Well, at this point it wouldn't be surprise.

>>43906524

Whatever the case, the Ethereal Caste seem to be fully aware of the nature of Chaos.

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>>43906209
And how.

http://web.archive.org/web/20070312003537/http://medusav.uk.games-workshop.com/campaign/factions/tau/tau-c.htm

>Let the histories of our glorious Empire reflect the truth of the dying days of Medusa V.

>For long weeks, the Fire Caste defended the Celestial Accumulator against the assaults of our enemies. Our brothers spilt much blood as they fought to buy time for the Earth Caste to complete its observations of the rapidly encroaching etheric phenomena. At the last, the relays were one by one overloaded as the skies boiled away. Only the bank accumulator main, atop Charybdis Crest, was able to stay on line until the end. Of the fate of the Earth Caste technicians manning it, however, the histories must remain silent for the sake of the Greater Good.

>Of the Earth Caste’s mission on Medusa V, the histories shall record an important lesson learned. Though more time is required to analyse the data transmitted as the world died, initial reports are unequivocal. The Tau must never again delve into the secrets of that alternate realm the Gue’la call “The Warp.” The images and the sounds transmitted by the Accumulator’s staff at the end confirm this initial assessment. The Warp is no place for the Greater Good and is best left to those foolhardy races who cannot pull back from that terrible realm. Our borders will be expanded as ever they have been – through steady, determined progress and not through the perilous shortcut of the Warp.

>>43897565

For the greater good.

>>43906704
The Medusa campaign was retconned to have happened sometime before the Third Shpere Expansion. Whatever happened there, it did not change their minds in the pursuit of Warp technology as we saw in Kauyon and Mont'ka.

Da war uv Dakka was only da start.

>>43897968

I like this idea.

History repeats itself, so it absolutely could happen.

>>43898373
>Dropping the setting

WITH NO SHURVIVHORSH!

>>43897768
tbf the anti-tau circlejerk is just as obnoxious

>>43897968
They wouldn't even have to defect as such, the tau regularly have to control the numbers of dones in a community to keep the neural net from getting too large and smart.

>>43907101
> anti-tau circle jerk
Its called the deathwatch anon

>>43897814
What firewall?

>>43898694
>>43899083
More people died in World War 2. It wouldnt affect the Tau that much considering the number of planets they own

>>43901708
Dark Eldar are the worst

>>43907445
Heck, see >>43901064

Losing millions doesn't mean anything to the Tau

>>43898694
>>43907495
According to some sources they lost billions of lives over the course of the campaign.

>>43907406
>Not knowing about the glorious fury of the Mechanicus

>>43907520
Which means they lost the population of one city.

>>43897565
call GW bigger fools than I am calling them now.

>>43898694
>I read that the tau just took lost millions of warriors and stuff in the damocles gulf but the thread died before i could ask, how well can tau take a loss like that?
They live for 40 years, and breed accordingly fast, also their mating system is also "for the greater good", ergo, if the greater good needs more soldiers, more boning will happen, artificial fertilization included.

>>43897565
"Wow, a non-retarded empire is in charge of the galaxy and may actually have a shot at meeting all challenges facing it."
"Feel bad about those messed up fuckers at the edge of the galaxy, they're gonna be history real soon unless the Tau preserve them."

>>43907578
The Tau have not begun constructing their own hives anon. The standard practice of the IoM is to completely purge any and all Tau worlds they pass in a conflict to prevent any possible harassment force from cropping up from behind their lines.

>>43897565
waking up and realising how ridiculous this dream was

>>43903007
>May God Emperor have mercy on the Tau if the AdMech pull out the truly horrifying stuff to test.
>Tau discover an STC
>Imperium finds out
>Admech sends hundreds of titans, millions of Skitarii, and bring out all their best tech
>Shadowsun killed by a vortex grenade
>Farsight ripped apart by robots
>Some old volkite weapons vaporize whoever is the head Ethereal
>Imperium captures the STC and leave, Tau on the verge of being wiped out
>Imperium now has an STC for a butter knife

>>43897565
I wake up from my Warp induced nightmare in time to join the assault on the few Tau worlds.
Fucking obviously.

>>43908079
last few Tau Worlds* even. Whoops.

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>>43897565
Sweet.
Less work for us, perhaps you can take on the Orks while you're at it.

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>hate weeb shit
>hate Tau fanboys who are constantly sperging their fanwank, while calling anyone who doesn't suck Tau cock a butthurt Imperial
Honestly, I'd just drop the setting.

Ultramar rises. All hail Imperium secundum!

>>43908332

As outsider I find the imperium fanboys far, FAR worse.

Any good novels from tau perspectives?

>>43897565

Considering the state /tg/ got itself in over mere rumours about Tau killing Pask, the result from a total Tau takeover would be a cataclysmic rupture of raw anal anguish to eclipse The Fall.

>>43908457
Sure. An "outsider."

>>43897586
It's the attempt to out cancer newcrons. So far it does a good job.

>>43899676
>Tau controlling a forgeworld.
Citation needed.

>>43902696
In the old days we could my Nid bro. And it was glorious.

>>43906250
Gaunt waves. Having more models on the field than the enemy can kill was awesome.

>>43897565
Laughter, so much laughter that my ribs would hurt. Not at the seting change, but at the reactions of those who still held a fraction of faith deep in their hearts that GW had other priorities besides money, such as white supremacy and HFY wankery.

>>43899869
*BLAM*

>>43897565
40k remains shitty and a slightly better alternative to Age of Sigmar.

Remove Chaos and that may change.

>>43902215
Not him, but I like fags. Being a guy, its in my interest to get along with any person who might let me fuck them.

>>43899542
Have you met an Eldar player? Those fuckers
>>Muh Fall
>>Muh Tragedy
>>Muh candle in the darkness

>>43897586
top kek
silly imperifag, the tau are winning everything
Farsight and Shadowsun are blessed by divine providence and will lead to tau to victory against everything, they are the perfect warriors and leaders that even the marines cannot dream of ever being

>>43902407
Dude. That's the point of the setting. It was basically created on a dare to be as depressing as possible, so yes, the Imperium is supposed to represent the worst of humanity.

>>43910094
>This is what passes for funposting in the Imperium.
Truly the forty first millenium is a grim and dark time to be alive.

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>>43910094
>blessed by divine
>divine
Proof? Tau have no gods.

>>43902543
It really does suit them well too. Quite in character. I agree anon, it would make me like the Tau more than I do now.

>>43910187
That's purely because you have shitty tastes, however.

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>>43897565
Heresy

>>43910119

The imperium's not really human, they are the descendants of subhuman stone men, servants of the golden men (real humans) who went extinct before the stone men got into war with iron men (AI's).

This is the reason for things like the cyborgs of Quietude not recognizing Imperials as humans upon vivisection during the Great Crusade.

Though it's mostly just Blanche's inspiration, I like to think everyone being so fucking ugly in the Imperium is also because of their stone man genes.

>>43909193
Warzone Apocalypse Damcoles, "Shape of the Hunt", and "The Patient Hunter", there is another book where they discuss the forgeworld in passing and lament its loss to the Tau but I can't find it now.

The Forgeworld was called Halfus.

>>43911013
>believing people that gave up their humanity to possibly Xeno tech
Nice headcanon you got there

>>43911076

The Golden Men - Stone Men fluff is from early 3e and predates Horus Heresy books by a long time. It's always been just hinted at, like in that particular case.

>>43911076
The Intrex and another human civilization did exactly that.

>>43911096
It's a shitty in-universe legend concocted by "present day" Imperial historians who don't know shit about shit.

>>43911142

It's not shitty, it's good fluff. I think you don't like the idea because you sympathize with the Imperium because of their supposed humanity, and admitting they are subhuman would take something away from that.

>>43911181
Nah, it's pretty stupid.

>>43903785
The giant galactic firestorm that reduced most if not all of the Tau's Third Sphere into a hazardous stretch of space that destroys anything that flies into it. Basically Exterminatus on a much larger scale.

>>43911209
Humans in 40K cannot be that ugly for no reason. The slack jawed Cadians in the Mont'ka book were UGLEH INBREED UGLEH!

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>>43911223
Well yeah, when nearly everyone you know is killed on a regular basis, and you are expected to have a legion of babies to bolster the numbers regardless of how closely related they are to you, that tends to happen.

>>43911096
It's an in-universe theory with no proofs. And it's disproved by the Emperor and Perpetuals existing since pre DAoT time.

>>43911102
>reading comprehension

>>43911216
The Imperial set fire to the Damocles Gulf which is uninhabitable empty zone filled with nebulas.

The only TSE world that was lost in the Mont'ka book was Agrellan. The rest of the TSE systems and worlds are okay.

>>43911223
fun fact, most people are really ugly

>>43897565
Isnt Tau just like... regular comunism?

>>43911181
It's literally a cryptic legend by a present day Imperial historian by the name of Cripias and present day 40k is renowned for being an age of ignorance.

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>>43906524
Snap. They are aware it exists, and that it's a bad no no. But they wouldn't understand its full effects until some nice Chaos Champion shows up to teach them about this new philosophy called the Changer of Ways.

>>43911241

That doesn't disprove anything, it means Emperor and Perpetuals are Golden Men (like various time-lost Golden Age spaceship crews and some non-Imperial human civilizations), with the Emprah ruling over the Stone Man civilization.

>>43911243
Really? Pretty sure I read a line about them retreating to the Second Sphere worlds.

>>43911254
>Communism.
>Elimination of a caste system
>Everyone produces what they need
>No form of central government as the people ARE the government.

This meme needs to die.

>>43911250
I meet a lot of people in my line of work. There are average people and quite a number of attractive folks. Uglehs are rare.

Where do you live where ugly people are the majority?

>>43911292
>Really? Pretty sure I read a line about them retreating to the Second Sphere worlds.

You are imagining things or mistaking the events of the First Damocles Crusade with the Second.

>>43911276
>it means Emperor and Perpetuals are Golden Men
The perpetuals were added to the fluff much later than the "golden men" legend and the Emperor's origins are already knows.

I get, you want you headcanon. Keep it, but don't pretend it's not what it is.

>>43911258

Present day imperium is not qualified to discuss ignorance, really. And Cripias did not make it up, but recorded it.

>>43911276
>with the Emprah ruling over the Stone Man civilization.
The Emperor never showed himself or ruled anything until the Unification of Terra towards the end of the Age of Strife

>>43911331

The Emperor's origins (be that shaman voltron or a perpetual who cheated Chaos Gods for a power boost) doesn't contradict the Golden Man/Stone man fluff at all, and neither do the perpetuals' existence.

>>43911292
The empreror is a shit.

>>43911353

He rules it (the Imperium basically) now, but did not of course do it always.

>>43911353
Pretty sure he took form of prophets and kings to guide humanity.

The Perpetual Pious for example fought as a solider in ancient Greece.

>>43911332
>And Cripias did not make it up, but recorded it.
It was passed down to him by those before him which inevitably means somebody changes something. Now multiply this passing down by 10 or 20 thousand year. It's literally how legends are made

>>43911359
But it does change it significantly.

>>43911381
Guide isn't the same as rule

>>43911429
>Guide isn't the same as rule

Jesus was the King of Kings doe.

>>43911429

Perhaps, but if something was changed we don't know what.

The only thing that would change in the Golden Man - Stone Man fluff by the addition of the perpetuals is some Golden Men continuing to live in Stone Man society.

>>43897586

everyone cocksucks their faction.

except orks, cuz their bros. I say this as a tau player.

>>43911276
>>43911359
>some Perpetuals were alive even before humanity took to the galaxy
>the Emperor is 38k years old
>a few people being brought to 40k from DAoT due to warp fuckery
>all the countless planets the Great Crusade liberated, some were without a doubt pre-AoS
And none of this fluff hints at your theory. Those Quitide were just butthurt machine hybrids.

>>43911907

None of that contradicts the Golden Men fluff. Perpetuals and the Emperor were golden men (real humans). The Golden Man fluff doesn't come from the Quietude, though they noticed that something was off.

It's you who's butthurt about the possibility that Imperial humans are degenerate replicants. :^)

>>43897565
I don't even care anymore

>>43902415
>thinking fascists are cool.

The inmates are running the asylum

>>43912020

The comparison Bryan Ansell used to give a glimpse about the Imperial mindset was actually suicidal Middle Eastern fanatics.

>>43897565
Further sulking and crusading. As a Black Templar player i'm still assravaged over no-upgrade-kit.

'Player'... like i can fucking compete.

>>43911995
All of my examples would know the difference between the Golden Men and Stone Men and not one of them drops a single hint.

>>43912144

Why would they? Perpetuals have nothing to gain, and it makes no difference to the Emperor either: "Hey you guys are not real humans but vat babies by the way". For that matter, Emperor really never talks about anything he knows but is ambiguous or unknown to his subjects (or readers) like his true origins. GW deliberately keeps things vague and mysterious.

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>>43912052
Not doubting that, but the Warhammer properties started as broad parody of britbong skinheads (see the Skaven specifically) up until the moment that they made up a significant portion of customers.

>>43911995
>None of that contradicts the Golden Men fluff.
You could invent any number of bullshit that doesn't contradict anything. Doesn't mean it's true.

>>43912309

The story of GW's fluff development has always been one of the founding dudes' homebrew. When they started trying to hire writers there were conflicts because at the beginning they tried to get established ones instead of making total unknowns write the stories.

>The third yes came from Terry Pratchett (!): 'What a delightful world, with many original touches. In Robert Robinson's telling phrase, it looks as though the writers learned the language in a hurry in order to sell beads to the natives. But provided no one expects me to take it as seriously as it clearly takes itself, count me in as interested at least as far as knowing what the "usual rates" in this case are.' In a later note Terry wrote, 'I feel a bit like King Herod being invited to write the newsletter for the Bethlehem Playground Association.'

>In the end, though, this venture failed when the draft contract proved unacceptable to the writers involved; GW evidently still hadn't got the hang of the business they were trying to enter — and Terry Pratchett never would write for GW.


>Charles Stross recalls, 'I remember being sent an invitation to a day-long seminar and being trucked down to Nottingham on a coach to sit in on a session at which [Bryan Ansell] and his minions explained how the spiky space wombles' ethos (which could be summed up as Total! Maximum! Violence! Now!) worked, and how we weren't to take any liberties with their intellectual property. Which they gloated over eerily and at length.'

>>43897730
Didn't you mean 'as soon as GW starts [...]'?

>>43912402
>Terry Pratchett
>bitching about lack of originality
Oh the sweet irony!

>>43899821
>C'tan shard using necronized tyranids
YOU WILL BE ASSIMILATED

>>43912433

Still he was right senpai

>>43901095
>>imperium fights tooth and nail, but gets beaten back to imperium core worlds.
You mean the Empire with a million planets and five hundred trillion citizens?

What would chaos tau look like?
I can imagine fire warriors going to khorne, but what aboot slaanesh and the other ones?

>>43911995
Simply because your theory can't be disproved does not make it right. The absence of (contradictory) evidence is not evidence for the contrary.

>>43912402
I can't imagine the retarded sloppy horseshit that would come from a Terry Pratchett based 40k. Everything is aesops and witty subversions that've been subverted more than the original.

>Lol goblins aren't really bad they're just misunderstood
>Lol the Antichrist isn't really bad he's just misunderstood and handwaves the end encounter

>>43910172
Worshipping a corpse does not constitute a god.

>>43912638

Don't worry 40kid, in that quote Pratchett essentially says that while he doesn't give a shit about the setting, he'd write whatever bolter porn Ansell & co want if he gets paid. Of course they couldn't come up with a proper deal to get him, or the other two prospective writers mentioned for that matter.

>>43912662
He's an undead God.

>>43912535
>What would chaos tau look like?
Hentai

>>43912402
>Which they gloated over eerily and at length.'

Decades on and nothing has changed.

>>43912662
Teuteract was just that, came pretty close too apparently before Soul Drinkers killed him.

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>Mfw this thread

I asked the Hive Fleet what they think of the vast, powerful and glorious Tau Empire.
They said it tasted nice.

>>43901095
>Thoughts?
Tau invent something out of their ass and it works perfectly.

>>43912760
The cycle is unending. Round and round it goes.

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>>43912402
This kind of crap is what turns me off warhammer. Knowing that the game will never advance because the jokers that run it refuse to change it, and and so damn anal about letting others work with it.

>>43912699
>disliking Pratchett means you must be a 40k fanboy

ok

>>43913173
the setting itself has always been about the 41st millenium first and foremost, never about 42nd onward, except in third party stuff

>>43913173

Shekels forced them to change Fantasy tho

>>43907881
You need to read the rest of the thread. It's already been cited that Tau cities have a population in the billions

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>>43908064
PRAISE THE OMNISSIAH

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>>43899542
I don't know man, those Eldar faggots never shut up.

I slept 60 fucking million years, in the hope they'd be fucking rekt by Enslavers, to fucking wake up to them fucking a fucking God into existence.

And they're still not dead.

FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU!!!

>>43913507
Yeh i hate how eldar act all high and mighty but they are the one of the biggest fuckup races in the galaxy.

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>>43913507
Yeah but they don't complain nearly as much as everyone else. Probably because there is rarely a campaign that directly involves them beyond
>We're closing some webways, fuck off

>>43914025
That fight seems one sided.

>>43899869
More like the Imperium kidnapping earth caste members and make them produce weapons and technology for them like the joakero.

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>>43897565
Unless it ends in a musical number I will be very disappointed.

>Bert da Chimney Snikka gets his boyz ready by drilling them relentlessly with pointless song and dance

Krump in time, krump in time
Come on, boyz, krump in time
krump in time
krump in time, krump in time
krump in time, krump in time
Nevah need a reezon,
Nevah need a rhyme
Krump in time gitz, krump in time!

Get moar dakka!
Get moar dakka, krump in time
Get moar dakka, krump in time
Nevah need a reezon,
Nevah need a rhyme
Get moar dakka, krump in time!

Kick da grayskinz!
Kick da grayskinz, krump in time
Kick da grayskinz, krump in time
Nevah need a reezon,
Nevah need a rhyme
Kick da grayskinz, krump in time!

Stomp da gribbliez!
Stomp da gribbliez, krump in time
Stomp da gribbliez, krump in time
Nevah need a reezon,
Nevah need a rhyme
Stomp da gribbliez, krump in time

Now kill da panzeez!
Now kill da panzeez, krump in time
Now kill da panzeez, krump in time
Nevah need a reezon,
Nevah need a rhyme
Now kill da panzeez, krump in time

Itz da humiez!
Itz da humiez, krump in time
Itz da humiez, krump in time
Nevah need a reezon,
Nevah need a rhyme... step in time!
Over the rooftops!
Over the rooftops!

What's all this?
What's all this?
What's all this?

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>>43914343
Fuck I heard this in the original voices

>>43914132
Youd be surprised. Eldar proceeds to wreck that Tau in the game.

>>43901694
The Imperium is the good guys because they're commit evil acts out of pure necessity. Ojectively, the only way humanity can survive as a species is to be absolutely brutal and merciless in crushing dissent, heresy, and Chaos taint, because the consequences of not doing so are astronomically worse for all of Mankind.

The Imperium would totally be the bad guys in any other setting, but in this one they're the closest to "good guys" that can possible exist as a faction.

>>43902407
>Worshipping others, rather than being man enough to believe in your own ability to achieve greatness.

Did you just read Anthem or Atlas Shrugged or something? History is absolutely littered with people who believed only in themselves and did absolutely terrible things.

Self-absorbed people are also usually just as, if not moreso, insufferable as religious zealots, and I'm even more annoyed by religious zealots than atheists/agnostics because I'm a moderate Christian, and watching people make an absolutely ass out of themselves to literally everybody they meet when you know the correct way to go about preaching the Word is just awful (only slightly beating out Smug Atheist in regards to annoyance level).

>>43911615
Blood Angels player. Actually sort of agree with this. I'd play against you anon.

>>43897730
severely underrated post

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>>43902696
Don't care. Nids still best.

What if the Tau are the long lost Stone Men/Men of Iron having lost all their history?

>>43907578
Billions would hurt. It'd set them back a decade, at least. Such is war.

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>>43916418
BS. They had no need to wipe out any xenos that weren't psykers or a threat to humanity. The Tau don't, so they're slightly better. And I don't even like them.

>>43923716
>or a threat to humanity
wanting to subjugate and lord over humankind is a pretty clear threat, matey.

>The Tau don't
The Tau exterminate native populations that refuse to bow to them. Hiding it behind layers of propaganda doesn't make them any better.

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>>43923755

To be fair, some aliens are so brutally hostile that they deserve extermination. It's just that the Imperium goes overdrive when it could have gained advantages in using xeno tech. The Tau didn't invent Ion weapons, for example.

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>>43923784
Rak'gol codex when?

>>43923755
>The Tau exterminate native populations that refuse to bow to them.
That's a better option than the Imperium gives anyone.

>>43924074
Not really. Enslavement or genocide.
It's Chaos with less mutations.

>>43900212
That is not even true you forget the first crusade where the only thing that saved them was the Imperium having to retreat and fight the Tyranids so yes they have known defeat before and have lost lots of troops and planets before

>>43924462

>That level of moral gymnastics.

You would fit in the Inquisition or Ecclesiarchy.

>>43923716
>>43924074
>the Imperium does fucked up shit because it's the only way for humanity to survive Chaos and they know from experience Xenos can never be trusted
>the Tau do exactly the same shit, just more sneakily, but they do it out of greed and powerlust

>>43897565
I would laugh at all the butthurt Imperial fanboys memeing heresy at everything.

>>43923755
>>43924819
Quit the bullshit.

The Tau do not genocide races that refuse to join them. They conquer them and forcefully assimilate them into their empire. This what happens with the floating polar bears, Nagi, and any Imperial world that resists.

They only genocide races that have no hope of joining the Greater Good.

>>43925251
>better to die under the free sun than to live in chains
And you're missing my point you faggot.
The Imperium subjugates rebelling human worlds because humanity must be united to survive. They genocide Xenos because history has taught them that they can't be trusted.
Tau do the exact same shit, but have no reason for it. They just slaughter and subjugate.

>>43925296
No, you are the faggot who doesn't get it.

The Tau subjugate other races because they want them to share in their manifest destiny and proper alongside them. They believe the races would better off under them and their wellbeing and survival is assured through the Greater Good.

The Imperium extends its protection to just humanity while the Tau do this to all sentient life. Even if this is naive, it makes the Tau more noble than humanity.

>>43925370
>find an alien race that is minding their own business in bumfuck nowhere
>look at those poor and misguided natives enjoying life without the greater good, it's time to invite them to serve us
>oh they refused, time to invade
>they aren't cooperating fully after their surrender, time for some sterilization, forced relocation, brainwashing and all kinds of bullying so they can see the greater good
>oh this just pissed them off and they are fighting back again, guess it's time to genocide them all
Nothing noble in there you little weeb wanker. Tau are more evil than the Imperium.

>>43925418
Nope.

The Imperium would just genocide them. While the Tau would just assimilate them into the Empire and if need be indoctrinate them to the Greater Good. By the way, the Tau do not sterilize. In fact, the Tau need for huge manpower resources and the fact that the Gue'vesa populations are INCREASING disapproves that.

Also assimilated races are given the right to self governance and their customs and traditions are permitted as long as they are not a threat to the Tau and/or Greater Good. Assimilated races like the Kroot and Vespids are given the same rights and rewards as Tau citizens.

So yeah, not as evil as the Imperium. A lesser evil perhaps.

>>43925459
Also the Tau would use their technology to better the lives of the assimilated races. This has been noted in many books (Shadow Commander/Damocles Anthology) where the quality of life sky-rocketed under Tau rule.

Surely this is better than dying and the humans under the Tau agree.

>>43925459
>>43925471
Tau do it out of greed and perceived self importance, the Imperium does it as a self defense measure. So while Tau methods are arguably less evil, they are more evil for doing it.

>>43925572
I know the Tau are evil but the intentions behind them are good. They don't go out of their way to be over-the-top brutal and cruel like the Imperium, and in any way they can they would better the lives of those under them (even if hey have to force it).

The imperium offers only death. While the Tau offer a comfortable life with some rights and autonomy. In the Grimdarkness of 40K, that's not so bad.

>>43925618
They go out of their way to bring the Greater Good to everyone, if they like it or not. And forcing your way of life to anybody is evil.
The Imperium doesn't go out of it's way to every Xeno they know about, if it doesn't offer a threat to humans. Granted, it's because it would be a waste of resources when you have much more pressing matters and not out of being nice Not to mention there are a few aliens that are permitted to live, like the Jokareo. The Emperor also offered the Eldar some kind of vassalship, but they refused.
And again, they are doing this for reasons. The Emperor knew 99,99% of aliens can't be trusted and that only a united humanity can survive the Chaos threat. Tau could have just traded with minor races, but instead they prefer to force the Greater Good on them and bring them under the Empire, no matter the means.

The Tau are merely humanity in the early days of the Imperium/Dark Age of Technology. The methods and believes are similar. The Ethereals hide the existence of Chaos, the Emperor did the same. The Emperor exterminated hostile aliens while turning every other xeno into a protectorate (something that the modern Imperium has forgotten). The Emperor had its own Manifest Destiny for humanity, the Ethereals have their own for the Tau.

The Imperium is a 10,000 years moribund man, both senile and blind, built already over another even older rotting corpse. It has forgotten its history, it has lost everything it had and it has corrupted every ideal it was build on.

>>43925741
>The Imperium doesn't go out of it's way to every Xeno they know about, if it doesn't offer a threat to humans

Except the primitive Tau were marked for extermination when they were no threat to the Imperium.

>Not to mention there are a few aliens that are permitted to live, like the Jokareo.

Because, like the Grox, they are not sapient. They are animals.

>The Emperor also offered the Eldar some kind of vassalship, but they refused.

Great Crusade Imperium =/= 40K Imperium

> Tau could have just traded with minor races, but instead they prefer to force the Greater Good on them and bring them under the Empire, no matter the means.

They trade with other races. It's one of the ways to introduce them to the Greater Good.

>The Emperor knew 99,99% of aliens can't be trusted and that only a united humanity can survive the Chaos threat

Pretty sure Chaos has a hateboner for mankind because the Imperium kinda stole from the Chaos Gods.

>>43903841
kroot are to tau like groot was to guardians of the galaxy. They hand around with them but likely they wouldn't need them. They don't care about anything actually.

>>43914826
Just as I said one sided