Possible return of specialist games from GW

>>43602131
i'm hesitant to get too happy

>ARMEGEDDON

Read that in Lumpy Space Princess voice.

>armegeddon

Seems legit, OP.

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>>43602131
Is warhammer fantasy on that list?

>>43602131

If only, OP, if only.

>>43602497
Hope you're ready for Age of Sigmar Blood Bowl

>>43602554
NO
FUCK YOU
THAT IS FUCKING OVER THE LINE
BY NUFFLE THAT ISN'T COOL

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>>43602131
No.

>>43602467

It's apparently for store managers, so I'm not ready to discount it just yet. Typos have cropped up in WD and FW books before.

>>43602131
Flyer came from GW: Belconnen in Australia and on their facebook site they've doubled down on it's veracity. So we'll see in the coming weeks.

>>43602497
>Bretonnia/Sisters OTP

it hurts to live

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>>43602808
>>43602855

Huh, Anon isn't joking.

>>43602131
This has me cautiously optimistic. Its strange that it seems like after I decided to stop buying GW products, after they gutted their Specialist games and threw out a lot of the rules that made 40k a fun game in my eyes, they turn around and make a full mechanicus faction, start doing Heresy in plastic, and now this.

If this is true I might just get back into it, but I am still really skeptical. It just seems so weird.

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>mfw its real and they absolutely butcher the awesome Epic Armagedon rules.

>>43603042
Personally I'm going to stick with NetEpic:A. At least it'll be easy getting miniatures again.

>>43603025

It looks like the 40k team stole all the common sense from the Fantasy team.

Either way, I'm happy to see this is at least *plausible.* I'd love to see Battlefleet Gothic return to the tabletop and not just in vidya form (though I remain super hype for the game).

>>43603025

Even though they replaced him with a bean counter, perhaps now that they've exorcised Kirby from the role of CEO the minions have been freed to actually come up with fun ideas.

>>43603056
>>43603042
>>43603017
You know, even if the rules don't work all that well we might get some good miniatures at this, at the least.

One thing I've been puzzling over since reading it is wether or not they're going to include the newer stuff into these older games, like the Admech and such.

The things that honestly have me the most excited is Battlefleet Gothic and Necromunda, two lovely games I could never find a group for but that I was enamored with.

>>43602131

>After the end times.
>After age of sigmar
>After prices

Go fuck yourself GW.
You need to do more to get us back.
GO fuck yourself.

>>43603290

need to clarify that this doesn't address the OP, but the company in general.
Op is a good guy for delivering the latest news of the cunt that broke our hearts.

I wonder if this will include Gorkamorka?

If so, with all the plastic goodies that Orks have had over the years since that game first came out, it would be epic.

>>43602131
desu they're better off without GW interference

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>>43602131
Truly the ride never ends

>get into hobby just as Specialist Games closes
>spend next like 10 years as a broke student, barely able to scratch together one small army in 40k and Fantasy both
>just graduated and got a good paying job 2 days ago
>this announcement

I am going to buy soooo much from this awful, awful company.

I wonder if they'll do actual new editions or if they'll just reprint the old rules.

>>43603688
I'm really curious if they're going to update the models, and how they're going to do that with plastics replacing the metals that they originally used.

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>>43602131
And Man O' War, right? Right?

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Postan from 40k general.

>>43602131
It's hard to really get excited about this even if it's true.

There's cheaper, high quality third party equivalents to almost all of those old specialist games now and every month GW just keeps releasing shittier rules and increasing prices so I don't know how they expect to compete.

I would be tempted by Epic, but I know that temptation would disappear instantly upon seeing the ridiculous price tag and rules that look like they were written by an insane asylum patient.

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>>43602131
>mfw this is real

It's gotta be a ruse, I just can't believe it. Either the games will be a million dollars or the rules will be shot, I just can't believe it.

This is smart.

Gw isnt smart.

Ahduhxnwojxneodd MY BRAIN

>>43603842
Rebooting WHFB to be smaller scale, no army books required and rules coming with miniatures to make it easier to bring new blood into the game sounded smart too.

Then we saw what actually happened.

motherfuckin necromunda, yissss

Everyone is so excited by the prospect of Specialist Games returning that they're missing the most crucial part of the announcement:

FORGE WORLD WILL NOW BE UNDER DIRECT GW CONTROL

>>43602467
I know the manager in question, he regularly makes his own flyers and stuff for announcements because GW doesn't always give them "official" electronic material.

He also gets carried away and makes spelling mistakes sometimes. These things happen.

He is not the kind of guy to make up a hoax like this. If he is saying it, then he was told this by GW corporate.

>>43603707
Why, we have a deal for you! Why paint all those boring toys when you can play vidya instead!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=twrLuASPnEI

>>43603888
So instead of making mostly Space Marines, they'll be making Sigmarines too.
>>43603896
Why not both?

>company produces good thing
>company takes good thing away
>customers are sad and angry
>company gives back good thing
>customers adore the company

>sigmarines vs chaos guys blood bowl box set
>space marines vs space marines epic box set
>space marines vs chaos bfg box set
>nobody else gets anything

>>43603933
That's funny how first edition of Epic was literally called Space Marine.

Nooo! Don't ruin Forge World! Leave them alone!

Just leave them the way they are. We've been here before. It starts with "Hey, we'll set up an extra special spot for these things." and ends with "Cancel the whole lot. All of it."

The only consolation seems to be that *right now*, Forge World is probably their money train (since AoS bombed). GW are betting big on Heresy, and they have Forge World to thank for it. But... well, frankly, I don't trust GW not to fuck everything up *even though* it's their money train.

It just seems to be getting too close to the fable of the Goose and the Golden Egg. GW love those golden eggs, but plastic Heresy and now this, it seems like they're sharpening their axe...

>>43603933
>nobody else gets anything
That, and the Chaos half will suck.

>>43602131
No! No you fucks! No you fucking fuckity fucks no!

I was done, we were done. I was content with that as well, I wasn't going to give you any money and that was fine.

Now you've done one of the two things you could to get my hopes up but I was sure you wouldn't. Why you fucks, why!?

>>43602131
So that's the good news. Now the bad:
>Bad rules, No FAQs ever
>Insane prices
>Anything not Space Marines or Khorne neglected and incomplete
>Cancelled again after 6 months

>>43602131
Hope is but the first step into the road of disappointment brother.

>>43603056
>It looks like the 40k team stole all the common sense from the Fantasy team.
>Implying there is any common sense in 40k right now when compared to ANYTHING OTHER THAN Age of Sigmar.

>>43602131
I knew I had not been repainting my BFG Eldar fleet for nothing.

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>>43602131
>All the specialist games mentioned except for Mordheim

>>43604153
>>All the specialist games

No mention of Warmaster either

>>43602131
They already fucked up Necromunda with fucking Necromunda: Underhive, I can't wait to see what horrific abortion comes out for their third edition of the game.

But who knows. Maybe it'll be fine. Redoing Necromunda models wouldn't be a bad thing, even if they released a god awful new edition of the game.

>>43604153
>>43604177
"Many, many more"

>>43604197
So let's hope for inquisitor or a GW-sanctioned Inq28 then.

Sorry guys, but you know how GW always treats Australia like shit? This is just the icing on the cake.

Basically GW HQ told their Australian managers about how Specialist Games is coming back so they could spread this rumor which is now getting traction worldwide. GW HQ will come out and deny said rumors and basically make Australia look like a rumour spreading shithole.

>Standard GW practice when it comes to Australia.

>>43604264
Why would they embarrass their own stores in oz? Doesn't make a lick of sense.

>>43604275
>GW
>Sense

pick one m8.

>>43604275
>Doesn't make a lick of sense.
Just like everything else GW does.

No Squats, no dice.

>>43603888

Given GW have entered the Heresy now, that makes sense. The fear though is that they will butcher the work the FW Team have done and make 30k just like 40k.

>>43604275

They hate Australia. They hate NZ as well.

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>post YFW Age of Sigmar tanked so hard GW had to bring back Specialist Games in order to stay afloat

>>43604373

I'm wondering if it has more to do with the vidya that has been coming out than it has to do with AoS.

>>43604373
What are they going to do when those also tank due to bad rules + overpriced?

>>43602912
I hate Devon Martinez

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I am a happy man now.

>>43602131
I reckon necromunda will get redone as inqusimunda.

>>43602131
>Blood Bowl
>Necromunda

Oh my god, I am thrilled!

>>43602131
gonna be a negative ned here;

Not interested, between when i quit and now, i still havent won the lottery

>>43602497
I didn't see any reasons for this, more probably they will make new specialist games for lotr and AoS.

>>43602870
>>43602497
oh god why did I have to find out this was a thing

>>43604382
At least it's not no rules+overpriced+shit setting

>>43602131
>forge world team is in there
>warhammer fantasy may not get forgotten
I'm crying a bit

>>43604758
>FW just got shut down
Right when their resin models sells like hotdogs and while they make highly profitable HH, i highly doubt it.

>>43604777
>hotdogs
Hotcakes, sells like hotcakes.

I am ready and my dick is even more ready

>>43604801
This anon is into Hotglue.

>>43604827
Nah more into cold glue
The ice man cumeth

Am i dreaming?
I want to believe, but even if it's true, lets be honest, at the end of the day, it's GW we're talking about.
My heart is not ready for AoS-ified Battlefleet Gothic.
Is this a nightmare?

>>43604852
The rules are 100% guaranteed to be bad, but luckily the rules are the easiest thing to replace by playing a different game with the miniatures.

>>43604852
I don't think their fluff or models will be truly changed. Just like the Crisis suits, they can redo sole old models by simply making them the same, but better, more modern andmore detailed.

What they WILL do though, is using the current prices, of course.

>>43604777
And that's why GW wants to consume them.

>>43604870
>but better, more modern andmore detailed
Yeah like they made with seraphons.

>>43604879
GW already owns them

>>43602131
>Lord of the Rings and the Hobbit
How has nobody pointed this out yet?
This alone makes this feel fake and gay. GW is not going to pay another round of licensing fees to New Line, not with how the LotR/Hobbit hype is dead and buried and sales are at rock bottom.

>>43604911
No, like they made with crisis suits and tyranid warriors some time ago, lizards didn't get new sculpts

Get ready for ..
Mordheim (now with Sigmarines)
Blood Bowl (now with Sigmarines)
and MANY MANY OTHERS (now with Sigmarines)

>>43604950
They already announced that had renewed the license 5 more years (probably cheaper because of what you said)

NECROMUNDAAAA!! Yesss, hive city bitches desu senpai

>>43604970
>lizards didn't get new sculpt
And that's was a point.

>>43605073
But the sculps are not all as old as the Specialist games. For example, I doubt they will simoly print the Epic models just like that. They would say it doesn't fit their "premium quality".

I normally would be hyped, but most of their games have equivaments around already, and they killed the one that dont have. Battlefleet still has no ships around tho, that weird 40k style is hard to find. Still the prices might be so big it scares all but the hyped gamers of the system, giving then less than they tought it will make and butxhering the games, again.

>>43605094
>But the sculps are not all as old as the Specialist games.
Like Eldar aspect warriors and phoenix lords, like free kingdoms knights.

I really, really hope this isn't true, as someone who plays BB regularly and dabbles in Necromunda and Mordheim. For all the chance of nice new plastic models, it's probably not work the risk of damage to the communities these games already have.

I mean, Epic was at one time GW's 3rd main game. Look at when Epic 3rd was released and it was so bad that a lot of people kept on playing 2nd. It killed it off as a major game. Epic: Armageddon wasn't horrific but it was too late, the damage had been done. And that was when GW weren't 100% cunty, only 50% or so.

The games are pretty much okay as they are, modern GW won't consult with the fanbase like the Specialist Games team did (e.g. the BBRC for Blood Bowl). I can imagine them having a pop at organisations like The NAF that does all the Blood Bowl tournament circuit.

>>43605177
You don't have to play, or buy new models if it is true. You can still play 2nd or whatever you do.

>>43605439
He's saying it splits the community, which is bad, especially for a product that is already so niche

>>43604373
Can't be a reaction to AoS sales, it's too early for that. Maybe it has something to do with LotR/hobbit being sided, which could have been planed long ago.
Also the change of director last year and video game licences.

Just got this answer from my local GW, seems it's legit. My god, I want that sweet BFG! I never bought it while it was out. Btw, does anyone have any info on the rumored new bfg computer game?

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>>43605830
And the pic...

>>43605830
>Just got this answer from my local GW, seems it's legit.
Details, we need details.

>>43604914
no they don't but they're both owned by the same company

>>43605879
None yet, sorry. As it says, they're awaiting final confirmation from GWHQ, but no outright refusal as a fake.

>>43602131
What a time to be alive.

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>gw releases massively overpriced starter sets for SGs
>doesn't release something for all factions
>doesn't expand them beyond the initial release
>they sell like shit
>"We told you nobody wants these games!"

>>43605943
GTFO GW.

any real proof yet?

>>43606047
I went in to my local GW and asked, yes it is happening, expect nothing for 3 years, for sale in nonGW stores, not clones of old games but an attempt to make stuff in the same theme.

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>more BFG

I WANT TO BELIEVE

>warmaster comes back, still set in the old universe
>AoS stays for 28mm

>>43606264

>an attempt to make stuff in the same theme.

All this reminds me of is the disappointment of Dreadfleet compared to Man o' War.

>>43606352
That would actually be a good solution. More big armies for the TW crowd as well.

>>43606264
>In the same theme

They haven't kept the themes the same for there main games over the past 10 years how the fuck are they going to emulate stuff from the late 90s?

>>43603855
They offered people that option (Ravening Hordes) and nobody played it over separate army books. Just make more Starter Boxes, literally everyone loves those. Why even stop producing them, I bet they'd still sell and attract new players even if they came with outdated rules. In a few countries they licensed 5ED collectibles in the early 2000's that attracted many people (including me), even with 6ED long released.

>>43605830
>>43605841
Is the britbong still working there? haven't been there for a while (read: years)

>>43606504

>Just make more Starter Boxes, literally everyone loves those

Fuck you, I actually want a decent game. Not something with two pages of rules.

>>43606533
Sure is. He's a nice guy.

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>>43606537
>including: a pocket sized, 200-page full-colour Warhammer rulebook, a 32-page, full-colour 'Getting Started' booklet
I don't know what you're talking about.

>>43604008
I interpreted the flyer to mean that Forgeworld will be helping GW with creating these new specialist games and be making some models for them.

I doubt GW would just take complete control over FW's design studio, or move the whole studio into GW's HQ.

>>43604379
>vidya that has been coming out
>Mordheim returns
>vermintide specialist game introduced
>inq28 returns as that Inquisitor dungeon crawler comes out

>>43605940
are you sure? Literally every FW publication says "copyright Games Workshop" on them.

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>>43605940

Why do non-Brits always seem to think Forge World is anything other than part of GW Plc?

All Forge World is is another design studio, which was in a portacabin with Warhammer Historical for a decade or so. They manufacture in the same building as the plastic injection stuff too, on the floor above. They tried moving some of it to China (along with central GW, the plastic terrain craters are made in the China for example) but it didn't work out.

>>43606665
Modheim is really fun btw. I was shaking from the stress during one campaign mission but it turned out all right with just one henchman dying, while my whole warband was at like less than 10% hp. I couldn't find the last item I was supposed to, therefore probably taking 3 times as long to finish the scenario than it normally should.

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>>43602131
PLEASE BE REAL

But if it's real then RIP in peace my wallet... I don't know what is right and good and true in this world anymore

>>43602131
Nice to see GW finally acknowledge the RPG-nerd in me.

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>mfw I still have a Chaos and Imperial fleet for BFG. And Adeptus Arbites and Chaos Cultists for Necromunda.

Dreams really do come true~

Mordheim and Man O War the two I am most interested in. Not mentioned.

Feels bad man

>>43607094
Mordheim still works with a few tweeks and it requires several dedicated players and at least one ''GM''. I'm actually and a quite long running campaign atm.

>>43607124
*in a quite long running campaign.

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About 6 months ago I learned there had been a major reshuffling of the inner circle of GW. The GW Alan was replaced with the FW Alan in recognition of the ever-increasing sales on his part. GW Alan had been an aggressive proponent of no points in AOS, throwing out the system devised by Jervis. He also prevented the different codex writers from collaborating in order to protect his own ass. Alan Bligh on the other hand, if you've read the 30K books, was a more level-headed and well competent person.

I predicted massive changes in GW as a result. I can't imagine something bigger than specialist games returning. I'd expect them not to come back to your stores for a while more, as the apparent trigger (Alan Bligh) just came into his own recently. I hope I'm wrong and they come out soon though.

During Long Night, much of GW's domain was lost to foreigners and heretics. But now Bligh has revealed himself. We embark now on a great crusade to take back what is rightfully ours, what we always deserved but never received.

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>>43607155
>FW guy replacing GW guy

Sweet baby JayZus.

Britbong here from Nottingham. Can confirm SOMETHING is happening.

GW have been going through their storage for shit.

Guess they're breaking out the specialist molds. Makes sense really, nearly all their new games coming out are former specialist games.

>>43607155
Also Alan Bligh was one of the big pushers for Armageddon shit in FW.

>>43606480
Sorry theme was my word choice not theirs.

>>43607192
Do you just wait outside their warehouses or something?

>>43607277
Warhammer world is pretty much my local and I noticed tons of shit moving around outside and near the warehouses.

>>43604008
>since AoS bombed
I've been away for a while. Do we have any solid stuff about this now?

>>43607287
I'll take that as a yes. Time for you to do more snooping anon!

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>BFG
>Epic

>>43607155
>Alan Bligh
Is this true?

Has there been any confirmation of these from an official source?

Ehhhhh. They'd have to prove they'll actually give a fuck about the rules for me to be interested. I've got games to fill those niches now, and after GW's bullshit over the years it'll take amazingly well games at decent prices(I know, hoping for FAR too much) to get me interested in giving them my money again.

I think GW will need to not only make the games, and make them worth a fuck, but also prove they're willing to interact with the community. Other companies are lvoed because they listen and interact instead of sequestering themselves off and saying "You'll buy it and you'll like it, and no we won't fix any of the glaring issues!"

>>43607155
Im going to believe you anon, Bligh-sama and his team do good stuff and understand the strengths of 40k.

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>>43607155
They shall be my finest wargames, these IPs who give of themselves to me. Like green stuff I shall mould them, and in the furnace of play testing forge them. They will be of pewter will and old-school flavour. In great marketing shall I clad them and with the mightiest starter boxes will they be armed. They will be untouched by powercreep or lore-wank, no shareholders will blight them. They will have tactics, strategies and moulds so that no foe can best them in commerce. They are my bulwark against the Chinaman. They are the Defenders of the Stock. They are my Specialist Games and they shall know no fear.

– Alan Bligh on the Recreation of the Specilist Games

>>43602131
This makes my dick hard.

But just like women I suspect this is simply an artificial tease.

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>>43602131
This is too good to be true.
>tfw I literally just bough 3 Necromunda Gangs for 10€ each last week

>>43607155

Alan Merrit is still the head of IP

god i hope they make more epic models

i'm a poor NEET but i'll find a way

>>43602131

I want new epic 40k stuff in my veins!

Please be true!

Everyone understands this is going to be a set of large box games similar to dreadfleet that will be stocked as board game lite in Barnes and Noble, Toys'r'us, and Target right?

These aren't going to be fully supported games with diverse ranges and continued support.

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>>43602131
I hope not. The best thing that ever happened to Specialist Games was GW dropping them.

The only good thing that could possibly come out of this is the possibility to get all those awesome BFG minis for cheaper than the current prices. And that's a long shot with the current GW.

>>43607853
all the metal ships recast in resin

>>43607805
>stocked as board game lite in Barnes and Noble, Toys'r'us, and Target
ok, A: Games Workshop doesn't do this, and
B: they fcking should.

>>43607867
Best outcome, really. Worst outcome would be new 3D designed sculpt in clampack format.

>>43607883

They will under Rountree - he was CFO, he is going to diversify profit streams and attempt to move the company into a broader avenue. I'd be willing to bet he'll start shuttering GW retail locations as well.

>>43607723
Is it okay for blaming him for everything that has happened to fantasy and what could happen to 40k?

I only care about Gorkamorka and Mordheim, so they can fuck off.

>>43607924

Yeah Alan Meritt is a real piece of shit.

All the great old games return in glorious finecast

thanks but no thanks.

>>43607965
I already have all the minis, if all this gets me would be new people to play with, that's good enough.

Fuck, I was gonna make a thread about this;
I am honking with happiness

>>43607952
Fuck that guy then

Why would any new players start a game thats already been dropped by the manufacturer once already?

I am starting 40k now and only have one person going in with me. Three others declined due to the obnoxius buy in.

This will onlu be a good thing if you autists subsidize other minis with specialist purchaes and GW price drop their more popular games.

That wont happen and these games will die again.

>>43608122

dubs dont lie

>>43607676

Fucking glorious.

Can't wait to have some fresh new players with fresh new teams for my battered converted Khemri shits to slowly murder.

>>43608122
I'm just getting into Necromunda, the plan hatched couple weeks ago before this announcement.
Why? Because I intend to build couple gangs with modular gear + terrain and treat the whole thing as a stand-alone game where all necessary stuff comes in the box.
Also because >>43607713 it's pretty cheap.

1) Is Necromunda just the 40K version of Mordheim?

2) Can I be an Ork warband instead of some boring fucking Hiver scumbag?

>>43607965
I'd take resin to metal any day of the week

>>43607965
when was the last time gw even used finecast?

>>43608202

1. not really
2. probably

>>43608202
1) Basically yes.
2) No. But you can use Ork models count-as Scalies Gang.
Also there's Gorka Morka - another focused on Orks.

>>43605057
makes sense, because what else are they going to do with those models?

>>43607676
>>43607155
I want to believe

>>43608202
>>43608231
>>43608243

There's actually a few different sets of printed rules for using Orks in Necromunda, but every game I have ever played or watched with Orks in it went sour, really fast. Orks are way too fucking strong for a Hive setting. Either they completely butcher the opponent, or they lose due to random rolling and butchering themselves (most rules for the boys have some uncontrollable chimp out mechanics at times).

It's funny once or twice, but most people won't want to keep playing against your greenskins in Necromunda.

If the don't rerelease Mordheim I'll burn down my local GW

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>new sculpt for the most forgiving of men

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>>43602131
Prices will probably be fucking terrible, but I'm still fine with having warbands and stuff avaliable.

>>43607805
They say that they will support the Hobbit line with new releases. So this might go either way.

>>43608202
1. Mordheim (1999) is just the fantasy version of Necromunda (1995)

2. Officially, not that I recall. With your buddies, do whatever the heck you all want. Or hope that they also release Gorkamorka, the best game they ever produced.

>>43607883
I'm >>43606264 and yes this sounds like the plan. They could only be planning on selling in FLGSs but these are for sale in non GW stores only (but they could sell some in GW stores if they decide to) and nothing will be ready for 3 years as it's just a think-tank ATM.

>Who do you think did the HH boxed game? (referring to not only resins going to be used for future miniatures)

>There is a LONG TERM (at least 6 months likely more) investment into bringing back some of our classic beloved games from Specialist Games. This will NOT be falling under the auspice of the Games Workshop side of the business, but linked up with Forgeworld instead. There is ABSOLUTELY NO WORD on a timescale or indeed, which specialist games may be looked at, whether they will be given a rejig or anything of that nature.

>I stress this is a while in the future - the team to oversee the project has not even been assembled!

>That is the official message I have now received!

>Recent job openings for GW/FW

Forge World Graphic Designer (maternity cover): Nottingham, UK
Industrial Product Designer: Nottingham, UK
Hobby Studio Scenery Painter: Nottingham, UK
Forge World Model Designer: Nottingham, UK
Citadel Miniatures Designer: Nottingham,UK
Freelance Authors
Citadel Miniatures Conceptualiser: Nottingham, UK
Freelance Artists: home-based

>It's basically Forgeworld expanded (or added to a second team) - Blood Bowl should be ready for release in theory. So yeah, FW is now part of the specialist product design team. They can support the Hobbit/LotR 'cause they still have the rights, but it won't be a "main system" anymore

>They will make new stuff/games, standalone products and will re-introduce old games, yeah

>>43608221

Outside of perhaps the Hobbit, the 6th Edition Eldar release.

>>43608897
GW must be doing well if they are willing to expand like this, either that or they are trying to test the waters for more broad appealing games (Like board games) that can be sold in other places than their own store.

>>43608973
Hiring a dozen new people is no issue for a company with revenue of 100+ million.
It might as well be a sign they're doing poorly and are desperate to come up with something new.

>>43602554
:O

:(

>>43609117
never do that again

>>43609132
;^)

>>43609099
Maybe they noticed all the ebay sales?

>>43609273
Source please

>>43602497
Shouldn't it be ma cherie?

>>43609273
>re-vamping
this kills the hype

>>43607805

I'd take that over their current state. More games like Space Hulk but centered around the Specialist Games lines would be quite nifty. And who knows, they might even encourage a revival further down the line.

This is all from Hastings, who is actually doing a pretty decent job conveying information:

>This has been in the works long before AoS was released so is not a decision based on it. Who do you think did the HH box?

>AFAIK the scope is pretty big, just don't be expecting things overnight, my understanding is we are still a few months out from seeing anything yet. Def full blown Epic armies, not sure about how much will be plastic and how much will be resin. I expect rules to be updated where needed. Do not expect to see old sculpts unless they are classics.

>I have not heard Warmaster discussed, however do not discount it, this is currently in its infancy. The HH box seems to be well received and not too bad of a price point when you compare the equivalent cost of the minis and the fact there is also a standalone game in there. I don't expect any of it will be "cheap" but it will be more accessible. As I understand it Epic & BB are quite high up the list of priorities.

>When I said Bram was spot on I was referring to the fact that SG will not be how it used to be. This team will almost be like a FFG within FW producing our old favorites, not everything is a board game, imagine other classic tabletop games getting an update, doesn't mean they have to change into a boardgame format. Specialist Games ARE coming back, only with a slightly different name with an updated product and not under the direct control of GW.

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>>43609350
The fucking Warhammer app, you fool!

>>43609350

Warhammer app, just checked and it's legit m8.

[revving intensifies]

>>43609467
>not under the direct control of GW
this restores the hype

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>>43609467
>full blown Epic armies with new sculpts

>>43602131
Maybe they'll start writing fluff that's worth a damn again too.

>>43608338

There were actual GW rules for Orks in Necromunda. They didn't give a set of warband rules, just for Orks as NPCs/environmental hazards, but I've seen people do well porting Gorkamorka gang rules over and just multiplying costs up to match.

>>43608202

Other way round. Necromunda came first, then Mordheim, but yes, pretty much the same style

>>43609546
Probably not gonna happen. GW seems to be terribly out of touch when it comes to writing fluff.

>>43604337
>The fear though is that they will butcher the work the FW Team have done and make 30k just like Age of Sigmar.

FTFY

>>43607805
>stocked as board game lite in Barnes and Noble, Toys'r'us
That's just not true, did you even read the flyer?

Why the fuck would Forgeworld be involved in making board-games lite?

Also GW has expressed time and time again how they DO NOT under any circumstances make toys.

The iii article about the GW investors meeting made that pretty clear and was very recent.

They would not tell their investors that they are making the best minatures worldwide and that they will never sell pre-painted, pre-assembled mini's because they are not toys and then do the complete opposite.

>>43608387
>I can bring him back to life. And then torture him!

Hopefully, GW will not be taking the Redeemer's advice.

>>43609608
But it's FW Anon.

>>43609405
it should be, but lovers have a right to be wrong

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>>43602131
>All those games come back
>SoB still dont get a plastic kit

>>43609796
Can't say I'm familiar with FW fluff.

>>43609822
You want bolter bitches?

HOUSE ESCHER
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Too late, lots of other companies make better games than GW, also after AoS they lost the little credibility they had.

>>43609851
House Escher doesn't have Cleopatra haircuts.

>>43607155
Also I want to stress that the GW Alan did not lose his job. He is simply no longer in the inner circle, and therefore not a figure of power in the company. The corporation functions like the politburo--it's not the job, it's the influence.

>>43609608
Good thing this isn't being handled by GW prime but a design studio more akin to Forge World.

I'll believe it when I see it.

>>43604337
>>43609764

A fear which is in all likelihood unfounded since the GW Design Studio either seems to have no plans to produce a HH rule set of their own (Kind of backed up by the apparent fact that it was this new division that was behind BaC, not the GW Design Studio) or are content to have it run alongside the rule set put out by FW.

>>43610180
I see it when I believe it.

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>>43610180
It was literally just confirmed worldwide on the official warhammer app

>>43610547
Ah, so these will all be one-box games rather than full line revivals.

>>43610584
we don't even know yet, they said there would be a new studio in charge of the other games, So I'm guessing it would actually be a full revival

>>43607155

I've met Bligh at one of the HH Weekenders, and if anyone can fix GW, it would be him. He loves what he does, loves the IP and seems to take legitimate pleasure at wowing the fans.

>>43609273
>they think people are buying betrayal at calth for the boardgame
>not for the cheap MKIV marines and contemptors to start 30k legions

Well fuck.

I guess this is what happens when you do literally no market research.

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>>43610041
Wow, maybe we do stand a chance ro get some new fluff that is not mediocre?

>>43610894
At least you are going to have Blood Bowl, Epic and Necromunda because of this.

>>43602131

I dont belive it, but my wallet is on suicide watch.

>>43610935
I hope they bring back Mordheim.

Apparently the real story is "A meeting was had and GW thinks they should look into specialist games again at some point"; there's no details, timeline for release, or named people working on it.

>>43611060
They probably took a look at the market and noticed that a lot of non wargames has been booming lately because GW largely pulled.out of it.

>>43610584
Well >>43609467 said 'not everything is a board game' so it sounds like it will be a mix of both. I'm hoping they'll do more good value box sets with a bunch of supporting releases like they used to do for old Epic releases and the original Battle of Five Armies and stuff, since it gives you the option of buying it as a standalone release or tailoring your own army. Some of the games would probably work really well as stand alone releases as well, like Blood Bowl.

>>43607676
i'm crying little tears of joy reading this. Well done, Anon.
B-But I've been hurt before, sempai. I don't want to get my hopes up...

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>>43607676
Capped

>Mordheim will never return due to Age of Sigmar.

>>43611138
I'm really flattered Anon, this is the first time I've ever been capped but now I can see my horrible spelling mistake.

ITT: Happy days are here agian

>>43611309
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hyfNM6POO9o

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So there's another reason FW made a 6mm Warlord Titan.

>>43611318
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VijD3WjREgw

>>43606570

Went in on a double AoBR specifically because it was the cheapest way to get the rules this side of "printer and 3 ring binder". Codex was printed, and I'm not even remotely ashamed.

I'm pleased that we're getting new old stuff, but expect GW jewry to intensify. "Specialist" titles command $90 hardcovers, not just for the collectors but for anyone interested in a hard copy.

>>43611365
Forward planning!

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>>43611365
Dis iz gonna be gud.

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Okay let's give it a shot.

>>43611364
They shall be my finest wargames, these IPs who give of themselves to me. Like green stuff I shall mould them, and in the furnace of play testing forge them. They will be of pewter will and old-school flavour. In great marketing shall I clad them and with the mightiest starter boxes will they be armed. They will be untouched by powercreep or lore-wank, no shareholders will blight them. They will have tactics, strategies and moulds so that no foe can best them in commerce. They are my bulwark against the Chinaman. They are the Defenders of the Stock. They are my Specialist Games and they shall know no fear.

– Alan Bligh on the Recreation of the Specialist Games

>>43611413
I play 30k and don't mind paying $100 for a book. They're actually good reads and are a quality product. Especially when compared to the $180 Collector's Editions of 40k codices.

>>43611464
Collectors editions of 40k codexes are a fucking joke at GW prices.

>>43611446
>Okay let's give it a shot.
Manchild, Neckbeard, anti social and cant help but write mary sue shit.

This guy it's a total douchebag, met him at WHworld.

>>43611511
Why a douche?

>>43611511
I don't care what he's like in person. I buy his written works, I'm not paying to play him in person. I'd take what he does over GW prime any day.

>>43611559
I use this policy with all entertainment. As long as he delivers a good product I wont mind what he is like a person.

>FW-made epic
>6mm army costs as much as a 28mm 40k army anyway

What's the point

>>43611501
Exactly. At least when it comes to Forge World's books, you get what you pay for.

>>43611623
You obviously weren't around when FW sold Epic stuff. It was relatively inexpensive.>>43611623

>>43611623
chinaman

>>43611623
>6mm army costs as much as a 28mm 40k army anyway

So you're saying a 6mm Warlord Titan is going to cost £1,240. Are you retarded or just hyperbolic?

>>43604373

Unlikely. The new CEO said this in the 2014-2015 financial report:

>Secondly, I will review our product range. We believe this is long overdue: it is time for a resetting of the ranges. Not tweaking here and there but a top down reassessment. I expect to update you further at the half year.

It's very likely that this is one of the early results of this process (Betrayal at Calth could be another one, where new CEO looks at 30K being offered exclusively by Forgeworld and says "That's silly, let's get it into regular stores too"). Specialist games is likely the result of him looking at the IPs the company still owns and saying "Why aren't we exploiting these outside of video games?"

>>43611626

They ARE top-quality. I'm simply a poorfag that can't afford a stack of beautifully crafted $100 artbooks; damn sure and not still be able to afford the tiny plastic men they describe. I'm their target market for condensed rulebooks, but they're not selling so Y'ARRR!

Incidentally, thanks Scanons. You do the Emperor's work.

>>43611690
So the new CEO is not a shithead?

This sounds too amazing to be true.

>>43611745
He's accountant. Boring but gets the job done.

>>43611745

Nah he's still a shithead, he's just not an insane shithead like Kirby was.

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>>43611766
So he is a straightman? Sounds good,

>>43611790
Yeah, Kirby seemed proud about what he turned the company into. It's like he didn't understand that GW was also an entertainment company in addition to selling minis.

>>43608897
>>Recent job openings for GW/FW
>Not a single game designer
I might be wrong, but I feel like this is a bad sign.

>>43611297
Why not? A damn Mordheim video game just came out, so it's not like the IP concept has been deleted from the map.

I want to believe but I'm very skeptical.

Look at it this way: Fantasy was dead. They tried pulling a Death of Superman and that didn't work. AoS is clearly an act of utter desperation. If your head isn't so far up your own ass that you think every decision GW makes is meant to spite you, personally, then it should be pretty obvious that WHFB was an unpopular franchise and that everything they tried doing to revive it has failed. Now consider how much longer it lasted than any of the specialist games on that list.

I think some of them have a chance, particularly Epic, but I expect most of them to be scrapped within a year or two of release.

>>43611857
It probably just means FW is promoting internally. Also don't forget Bligh isn't the only designer handling their rules. Since HH Book 5 I think they've had additional writers handling the workload.

>>43611857
That might be a good sign. Those games already have established ruleset. And the less GW (or their subsidiary) fucks with them, the better.

>>43611935
Yeah you might be right.

>>43611894
A lot of people have heard of Blood Bowl via the vidya. If they begin by selling it as a boardgame with easy to assemble minis it coudl probably work too.

>>43609829

Having read the first part of the first edition of Siege of Vraks I can at least say that FW is nice in that it tries to flesh out the details of the setting by showing you things such as a little Imperial bureaucracy, the organization of armies, information related to their equipment, etc. It's better than the vague approach the GW Design Studio seems to take for whatever reason.

>>43610970

After GW themselves made an announcement I don't know how you can't believe that at least something is happening.

>>43611365

Just a test model, but it could be a sign of possibilities.

>>43611501

To be fair, with the GW collector's books you're usually getting a bunch of extras with it whereas FW is just the book. But really GW knows that only a certain amount of people are going to be willing to pay the amount asked for which is why they only make so many, the fact that the limited availability also helps to spur some purchases probably doesn't hurt though.

>>43611857

I think those are just openings they need to fill certain gaps, not to hire an entire team from scratch.

>>43611877

To be honest I'm not sure I could really see them doing Mordheim as is either since it's so tied to Fantasy. GW may not care what a video game developer does because they probably don't have to do a lot, with these games though they'd probably want to put out stuff that is related to 40k, HH, or AoS. BB is a possibility because it's its own universe. At most I'd expect something like Mordheim, but set in AoS, which could work perfectly fine within the lore.

Just an interest piece of side information. Some Czech guys who where making their own 6mm IG tanks got a C&D just a few months ago.

>>43612079
>Having read the first part of the first edition of Siege of Vraks I can at least say that FW is nice in that it tries to flesh out the details of the setting by showing you things such as a little Imperial bureaucracy, the organization of armies, information related to their equipment, etc. It's better than the vague approach the GW Design Studio seems to take for whatever reason.

Well that's the good stuff. Anyone can write about cool guys doing cool stuff, but it doesn't give you a good sense of the setting.

>>43612067
Blood bowl as a boardgame makes a lot of sense. Since teams and arenas are all similar sizes you don't have to worry about a bunch of variety.

>>43611935
I was about to say "those established rulesets range in quality from bad to okay-but-could-still-be-improved" but then I realised that even the bad ones are probably still better than anything modern GW would come up with.

>>43612111
This one?
http://www.trolls.cz/collections/6mm-warfare
Shame, they had a stall at ETC Pragu, some of the stuff was really neat.

>>43602131
Fuck yeah will be able to finally buy a fleet !

>>43612171
Yeah.

>>43611894
Things like bloodbowl and gothic require pretty much just one or two plastic sets. With video game tie-ins on the horizon or already present, they'd be games worth supporting, even if only as direct-only exclusives.

Hopefully they don't AoSify it. I would love to play some Skirmish games again, and have a ship combat game that is actually played that doesn't have pre painted miniatures.

>>43612067
>If they begin by selling it as a boardgame with easy to assemble minis it coudl probably work too.
That would work great, I think. They could even try to position it as a way to get board game players into wargames

>>43612261

Outside of no points and no structure to build an army, I personally can't think of many bad things about AoS.

I kinda wish they would recast old Empire minis from 6' edition. The Greatswords are so expensive on ebay.

>>43612400
I assume you sport impressive moustache and are use to yelling in public.

I'm pretty intrigued by this, as I always felt the specialist games included many of GWs best products, but after AoS I'm going to need some serious convincing. Pricing + rules quality will be important for me, and in recent times the former has been high and the latter low.

I'd also have loved to see Mordheim and Warmaster on that list. Mordheim needs some tweaks (or a GM) to run well in my opinion but I had loads of fun with it, and Warmaster always looked like a great set of rules. It's possible these were less popular than the others though, and just having BFG back will be great for me.

Above all however, I just want them to realise how much of a cock-up AoS was, fix the actual reasons for the declining popularity of Fantasy, and get back to producing a decent set of rules I'd like to play with my Fantasy armies.

>>43612492

Joke rules that can be easily ignored with a bit of sense and mostly present on old characters with little chance of returning if I recall correctly.

None of the rules for the Stormcast, Bloodbound, Rotbringers, Sylvaneth, Pestilens, or Lizardmen have contained rules of such a nature.

>>43609273
There's feck all logic here.

>People want to buy our 28mm spess mehreen-filled game that also fits into the main stuff Forge World has been doing for the past few years, that has sold really well
>so let's release a bunch of unrelated incompatible things largely lacking in spess mehreens or any connection to anything that wasn't discontinued years ago

>>43612171
Their stuff is still available, email them.

>>43612734
The logic is GW has phased out Apocalypse, formations, super heavies and GC are all part of the game now so the niche for larger armies is "lost" as a new product but Epic can fill that void that GW knows it exists. Epic came first, then phased out in favor of Apocalypse, then Apocalypse went out, now Epic returns. Poetry.

>>43612720
>None of the rules for the Stormcast, Bloodbound, Rotbringers, Sylvaneth, Pestilens, or Lizardmen have contained rules of such a nature.
Yeah, which is passive-agressive way of letting players know that the old stuff is still supported, of course, except you have to make fool of yourself.
Sure, with the right people and some houseruling the game can still be enjoyable. But the original design is idiotic.

>>43612799
I'd like to think they've noticed that a bunch of smaller scale games have gotten popular and that 40k's massive scale creep has alienated a ton of people, but that would require someone at GW to have an ounce of awareness.

>>43612896
They really would be well off supporting Kill-team again. It's a lower startup cost, but can still encourage people to eventually build larger forces.

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>>43612400
This poster is a spider, do not trust him or his words.

>>43612896
Just having to buy large flyers is annoying in itself. I don't think they are fun to play with or against, but I'm encouraged to bring one to the table to be competative.

>>43612400
I'm not to thrilled about the way they handle weapons as an integral part of the statline, much prefer the more modular way of whfb.

Kinda the same with magic, wizards know a few spells that are unique to them, and they're more locked into whatever role their written for. Which I guess feeds into a grander scheme where the customization is more weighted towards picking and choosing units, as the player has access to more stuff and stuff like magic items are kinda phased.

Mind you, I haven't read the newer unit rules, and stopped paying attention after they had rolled out some of their stormcast rules, so it may have changed in the new stuff.

>>43612840
Given GW's somewhat questionable choices sometimes, they might also have revised the later stuff they put out, given how bad the reactions to their joke rules were. Granted the idea behind putting their stuff online would be to allow them to update rules with ease so if they wanted to "apologise" they would probably have updated the legacy ruleset to remove the "meme"-rules.

>>43612954
They'd have to actually design a rule set worth playing though.

>>43609467
>Def full blown Epic armies,

Oh man I am stroking myself right now..

>>43612720
Does that mean that The Masque, an immortal Daemon who is still alive in 40K is being squatted too?

>>43609467
>Specialist Games ARE coming back, only with a slightly different name with an updated product and not under the direct control of GW.
So Sigmaster instead of warmaster, sigmarheim instead of mordheim.

>>43613572
Oh, I would love for Warmaster to come back. It had some pretty fun looking minis.

>>43613613
Yeah, because GW always make sooo good rules for their games.

>>43613645
I don't care. The Warmaster minis were pretty nice.

>>43613692
>I don't care
With this audience GW is immortal.

>>43613745
Not him but if they make new models you can still use the old rules with them of course. I might do the same with any new Epic models if they fuck up the rules.

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>>43603888
>FORGE WORLD WILL NOW BE UNDER DIRECT GW CONTROL
>now

It seems like the leadership at GW asked themselves, "what can we do to make anon come back and buy shit again?"

Add this to Cloud Strife coming to smash and I start to wonder if I'm hallucinating today.

>>43611894

GDubs can likely make many of these lines profitable simply by rebooting them, marketing them, and strictly controlling set creep. For example, with BFG, keep it to Chaos vs. Imperium with modular ships and maybe a couple other factions and they could probably turn a solid profit. Resurrecting these games for greater diversity of offerings and increased customer goodwill makes sense so long as GW can turn even a modest profit off then.

As long as every game doesn't end up having 12 different factions to support, I doubt that they'll be very expensive to support at all.

>>43614896
The most important things for these is that they
1) Be cheap. As in actually for real cheap, not GW "cheap". As in "40-50 bucks gets me all that and I can play a full game with it? Sure I'll give it a shot" cheap.
2) Have actual rules that look like they were intentionally designed by someone who actually likes and intends to play games.

There's no point making another overpriced, poorly designed game. It's not going to bring back the customers they've lost and the zealots do not have infinite cash to support infinite products.

>>43612734

I seriously doubt there is any connection between the sales of BaC, which are probably hard to know in their entirety at this point, and the creation of this new division which seemingly already exists in some form since it was responsible for BaC.

GW does things of this nature years in advance, not at the spur of the moment.

>>43613260

Always possible to get new rules. Every rerelease GW has done for AoS has come with its own Warscroll, granted for the most part they've been the same with the exception that unique units now say you can only include one in your army.

>>43614134

FW is autonomous and from sounds of things will remain that way, but that doesn't stop those who want desperately to believe that things have to be bad rather just average, if not good.

>>43607301
Dunno, the people at my GW said they've never sold as much Warhammer stuff as now.

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>>43615057
>As in "40-50 bucks gets me all that and I can play a full game with it?

So you want a cheap plastic minis? Like pic related? Thats some shit taste son, I'd rather pay good money for good minis.

>>43615353
1 is infinitely greater than 0

>>43615349
>come on guys, all previous GW moves is not reason to doubt in them, they care about us, if AoS rules and current 40k is shit, then they will make new SG nice and interesting, you shouldn't play in current Mordheim, becuase it's unofficial, official with stormcast warband better because it's official, m'kay?!

>>43615711

FW is going to be behind these new games, so I don't know why you're even bringing up the GW Design Studio. Nice job of putting words in my mouth as well.

There is pessimism and then there is the whining some have already begun to engage in because they've drank so much of the toxic kool aid that they know nothing else, they've lost the ability to look at anything objectively.

>>43615821
>FW is going to be behind these new games
>implying experimental rules was better
There is no FW anymore, only new division of GW, under GW direct control

>>43615821
> you shouldn,s talks bad about GW, they always care about community, AoS always was batter than WHFB it was maded for WHFB commnunity. Spave marines in space marines is premium minis.

>>43609405
Thank you,

Well hmm depends, are we using quebecer, french or deep south french. Because deep south would use mon. They flip the possessive around.

>>43612983
>I'm encouraged to bring one to the table to be competative
No you're not. Every one has ground based AA options. The only people who run flyers are people who want too.

>>43616012

Despite all evidence pointing to the opposite.

The GW Design Studio, FW Design Studio, and BL are all seemingly autonomous entities. This was evidenced at the recent 40k Open Day where from reports of people who were there, the FW Studio was open to talking while those at the GW Studio were very much tight lipped.

>>43616050

You should really work on your English Slavposter, it makes it easy to spot you from a mile away.

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>>43616093
Slav stronk.

Are you even in the squatting?

>>43616093
>evidence pointing to the opposite.
Look at your OP-pic GW.
>You should really work on your English Slavposter, it makes it easy to spot you from a mile away.
What?
Also, I'am still didn't see any examples of good GW rulesets and models.

>>43616159
>I'am still didn't see any examples of good GW rulesets and models.
40k and AoS. Also basically every mini in the last few years. Sometimes ugly sure, but high quality ugly none the less.

>>43616832
>40k and AoS.
>space marines in space marines
>fat space marines
>good
Nice try.

All of these game were way before my time, as I only got into 40k about a year ago. I don't really know anything about these games but I can't help but get hyped. I've seen and heard people talk about how they liked these games so them returning is a pretty damn exciting thing. I however predict I'm going to get into one or two of these games and like them, as everyone else hates them as it isn't the same game it used to be.

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>>43609467
>Full blown epic armies.
I'm getting that funny feeling again, and I like it.