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/heem/ - Natty GOAT Edition

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>Thiago Alves out of FN116
https://www.mmafighting.com/2017/9/13/16303482/thiago-alves-out-ufc-pittsburgh-fight-mike-perry

>Woodley Injured
http://www.bjpenn.com/mma-news/tyron-woodley/tyron-woodley-gives-timetable-octagon-return/

>Jon Jones tested positive again
http://www.espn.com/mma/story/_/id/20687157/jon-jones-b-sample-confirms-failed-drug-test-ufc-214

>Luke still salty
http://www.bjpenn.com/mma-news/georges-st-pierre/luke-rockhold-doubts-joke-georges-st-pierre-will-show-ufc-217/
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Jesse Taylor popped by USADA
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>Woodley injured

Welp, another division on hold. WMMA keeps winning
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Was jon jones being tested for roids while he was suspended?
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>>78240294
Of course not. No way that lanky kong mother fucker could powerlift as much as he did without roids
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>>78240269
>>78240269
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>>78240312
so he definitely wasn't being tested?

I just want to know how he figured he was going to get away with it
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>>78240292
>BW is resuming
>FW is going on
>LW will resume next year
>MW is resuming
>LHW drama is over
>HW never had drama

Nah
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Branch will win
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>>78240298
>>78240326
>its a h8er starts panicking episode
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>>78240326
thread wars

be nice if we got to see a different op from bisping or calendar faggot
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This is the thread
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>>78240292
whom is he faking an injury to duck?
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>>78240359
You think it's time for a
T CITY ONE?
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>>78240356
*gets KO'ed by a slam*
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>>78240356
No shot.
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Jon Jones win vs DC overturned

https://www.mmafighting.com/2017/9/13/16303218/jon-jones-vs-daniel-cormier-at-ufc-214-overturned-to-no-contest
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>>78240374
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>>78240388
Fuck off faggot. You lost.
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>>78240395
So will DC get the belt back now?
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>>78240381
my thoughts on t city is in his last fight he was getting beaten on the feet but when it went to the ground he dominated

i don't see him as a future champ but top 10 contender
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>>78240399
Read the article, nigger.
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Can anybody beat Jon Jones at this point?
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>>78240398
>You lost
I think you're taking this a bit too serious
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>>78240356
>>78240392
How? Please explain?

Branch has fought cans and only once a year. No wonder he hasn't lost in 5 years.
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>>78240402
He will be the next Guida/Lauzon 145/155 gatekeeper.
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>>78240414
Himself
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>>78240402
>he was getting beaten on the feet
implying it wasn't part of his plan
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>>78240326
>>78240388
You do know you are more annoying than the Bispingposter, right?
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>>78240414
Gus already did.
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>>78240432
yeah i see him hovering around 10-8 and never getting near a title shot
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>>78240454
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>>78240465
LMAO yeah dude
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>>78240481
>Gus already did
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Al Iaquinta vs Mike Perry
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>>78240501
Al would murder him.
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>>78240501
Perry would destrot that LW bitch.
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>>78240504
He already did on twitter
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>>78240501
Al would win
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So DC vs Ozenib or whatever his name is for the vacant LHW title?
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y'all know there's a real thread right?

>>78240269
>>78240269
>>78240269
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>>78240532
Should be Gus/DC 2 and Oezdemir/Shogun vs OSP winner

>>78240541
Stop spamming please
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>mfw no matter what happens to Jon "the GOAT" Jones he will always be undefeated
>mfw he was the first to KO DC
>mfw he made DC cry twice
>mfw nobody will ever get to heem or submit Jones
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Hall vs Jotko on the prelims this saturday

who takes it?
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>>78240562
I guess we won't be getting a succ trilogy
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>>78240532
DC's chin is deleted. His career will end soon
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>>78240562
This. I will always be Team Bones. I will always talk shit about DC.
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>>78240562
>tfw AJ was going to come back to fight jones
>tfw gus vs jones 2 is off and gus never becomes champ because he can't heem DC
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>>78240596
>DC's chin is deleted
That has yet to be determined,
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>>78240599
>tfw no Jon vs Bork
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>>78240621
Is Brock natty?
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>>78240599
Would have been a shitty match. AJ could have beat DC but gave up because DUDE WEED.
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>>78240621
fuck me jon fucked up alot of things i don't think dana is too impressed and its probably the reason he's on vacation
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Is there anyone with a more decorated record than Vitor? I'll wait
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>>78240667
Dan Henderson.
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>>78240358
Thats just sad
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>>78240256
>>Thiago Alves out of FN116
>https://www.mmafighting.com/2017/9/13/16303482/thiago-alves-out-ufc-pittsburgh-fight-mike-perry

Interdesting
I actually had Alves winning that fight so this could be could for Platinum Mike Perry (PMP)
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>>78240659
I think WME is trying to phase Dana out of the company.
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>>78240667
fedor
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>>78240256
>Thiago Alves out of FN116
What the hell? When did this happen? That's big news, no Perry this weekend
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>>78240458
Keep doubting him bitch
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How would he do in the UFC?
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>>78240718
They are trying to find a new opponent for Perry
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>>78240597
>I will always be team bones
That's cool. Just know that your team will never do shit with the ufc anytime soon
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>>78240748
That's good news.
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I REALLY don't rate Gustaffson.
He's going to be exposed if his next fight is against anyone in the top 5 (6 not including him if he's top 5)
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Favorite female fighter?
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>>78240728
i'm not doubting him though
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>>78240748
Not sure they'll manage to desu
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>>78240767
idk but yours looks like wanderlei silva
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>>78240767
For me, it's Megan Olivi.
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>>78240767
Unironically

Holly
Watersports
Rose
Calderwood
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>>78240562

This, anyone who ever doubted jones is a complete faggot.
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>>78240750
I'm used to it.
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Jones is done you fucks, get over it lol
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>>78240748
>>78240755
>>78240718
Alves is based in florida and stayed back helping his family with the hurricane

perry is also based in florida but got out early
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>>78240787
>fighter
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>>78240778
Silva.jpg
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*cheats on you*
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>>78240838
he will retire undefeated
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>>78240759
Top 5:

>Did well against Jones
>Didn't get embarrassed against DC
>Volkan meme
>Destroyed Glover
>Destroyed manuwa

Hmmm
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>>78240838
>h-he will get a release from UFC like F-frank Mir and h-he will fight cans in Rizin
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Can you guys go to the other thread and not give Bisperg attention? K thx
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>>78240915
Nah, I'll stay right here.
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>>78240879
He retired
We're done seeing him
No one really cares about his worthless record
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>>78240915
Pathetic
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Jones win at 214 has officially been overturned to NC
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<-------------Stockton tap
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>>78240959
It will never erase the fact that Jon Jones KO'd DC.
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>>78240959
USADA WILL PAY FOR THIS
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>>78240959
And also, JT Money, the guy who won the last Season of TUF, has been flagged for a USADA violation

https://www.mmafighting.com/2017/9/13/16303364/jesse-taylor-flagged-for-usada-violation-bout-vs-belal-muhammad-removed-from-ufc-sydney
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Welp im gonna go fap to some puerto ricans. Brb
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>>78240904
He didn't destroy Glover. And I just watched his Blachowicz fight and he only won that with takedowns in a not very impressive style.
He will be expooped. His standup game isn't great, he isn't that strong and he hasn't got much of a chin.
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>>78241085
Ellenberger used to be good. What happened?
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>>78240924

spoken like a true cuck
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>>78241149
USADA
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>>78241242
Only a cuck would follow a man like you follow Jones hahaha
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>>78240924
>DC fanboys are this ass pained
Sad!
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>>78241119
Did you watch the fight? Glover was getting smacked around from pillar to post, it was an absolute boxing clinic
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>>78241085
Puerto Ricans are gross
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>>78240879
Hmm.....
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>>78241441
>kicking someone's ass so bad that you lose
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>>78240959
Should be a DQ. Literally pissed hot in-competition
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DC is undefeated now
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>>78241834
Nope.
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>>78241834
I recall him getting KO'ed during his last fight
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>>78240256
> Natty GOAT
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA NOTHING WILL CHANGE THIS
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>>78241980
USADA just did
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>>78241980
You're gonna make Spain mad, bro
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>>78241980
*Blocks your path*
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>>78241980
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>>78241119
lol he could not have dominated more, he was winning 40-35 and then knocked him the fuck out.

He knocked Manuwa out, but that probably couldve gone the same way as vs Rumble. then again fight vs Rumble couldve gone the same way as Manuwa

Against Glover though you literally can't deny Gus showed without a doubt that he's levels above him.
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What is Jon did all this on purpose and doesn't give a crap anymore
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This triggers the sperg
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>Woodley gets injured without throwing a punch

Is he made out of glass?
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The future of combat sports.
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>>78242293
kek he's been juicing his whole career most likely, I think he finally just got caught soimehow.
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>>78242395
For sure he didn't throw a punch
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>>78242462
The Turinabol test that got him is new
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>>78242529
wasnt funny the first time
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Holy shit my guys I just watched Swanson Choi at UFC 206 that was the best fight I've seen a long ass time. Why isn't this Korean more popular?
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>>78242655
Because casuals did not watch UFC 206
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>>78242462
I meant after 200. He stopped giving a fuck
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>>78242655
Welcome to Mixed Martial Arts my friend.
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>>78242655
Asians are made of glass. Except Cung Le you need to be a beast to beat Cung Le
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>>78242564
Can't tell from the uggo face and sausage fingers?
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>>78242541
>mfw BJJfags are getting cucked by boxing and wrestling

O B S O L E T E
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>>78242655
You just didn't notice Choi because your a filthy casual frogposter. Swanson ended the hype train.
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>>78242883
No doubt but that face...
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https://www.mmafighting.com/2017/9/13/16303874/demetrious-johnson-vs-ray-borg-rebooked-for-ufc-216-fight-card

Ray Borg/DJ on 216 so they can sell it as a better PPV not just interim belt
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>>78242876
Literally happened a long time ago with Matt Hughes and Royce Gracie
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>>78242876
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>>78242949
Speaking of old farts, why is Ken Shamrock considered a legend?
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>>78242611
Come on, do you take us for this stupid?
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Longest win streaks in UFC history

Jon Jones - 17 (not counting Hamill as a lost)
Anderson Silva - 16
GSP - 12
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>>78243011
>Her face isn't that bad compared to the vast majority of females in MMA.

You are blinded by your infatuation with her.
Nice photo you chose btw. Covered in makeup and still looks like that Pixar character.
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>p-please notice me
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>>78243006
Because he was there in the very beginning and was still fighting throughout various ages of MMA.
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>>78243048
You literally posted the same post like 5 minutes earlier in the other thread.
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>>78243058
>(not counting Hamill as a lost)

Nice meme.
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>>78243115
look at his stupid ears and stupid head
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>>78243081
...and lost...while roiding
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>>78243070
oh look it's the HW GOAT
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>>78243070
>w-watch me prank my wife on the phone guys
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>>78243159
>p-please fight me AJ
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>>78242769
>Asians are made of glass.

Well Doo Ho Choi and Chan Sung Jung have proven themselves to be among the toughest FWs around, so not sure wtf you're talking about.
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>>78243115
#CancelFlyweight
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>>78243006
First ever wrassler in the UFC
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>>78243138
Numbers don't matter much to the laymen. How many people care about BJ Penn vs. Gegard Mousasi?
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>>78243220
Theyre always injured. Was that really hard to figure out yourself?
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>>78243220
This

Shang Tsung was also pretty good up until Liu Kang deleted his chin
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>>78243220
Doo Ho isn't tough, he got the fuck beat out of him by Cub pillowfist Swanson, the guy who couldn't even finish Artem and hasn't had a KO victory since 2013.
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>>78243229
Flyweight haters leave my general now.
You guys are worse than casual gooby fans
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>>78243260
It's MMA. Everyone is always injured. Your confirmation bias just makes you think its specific to Asians.
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>>78243229
DJ did nothing wrong
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>>78243229
Cancel the damn division then
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>>78241980
lmao
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Could Paddy Holohan beat DJ?
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How can you watch cejudo vs reis and want to cancel 125
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>>78243415
Because there are more interesting match ups for Cejudo at 135
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>>78243415
Easy, by not watching it and pretending that you do.
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>>78243405
No, he's shit
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>>78243415
Well you look at the cage and at the referee for a sense of scale and you realize that the fighters are the size of my little sister and that just ruins it
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>>78243011
She is delicious
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>>78243415
Watching it illegally :)
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>>78243339
That wasn't even me. And it has nothing to do with the fact KZ and DHC are made of glass everywhere but their chins

You're sperging for no reason
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>>78243255
What happened to weidman's head movement?He looked off here.
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>>78243466
sure is :-)
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>>78243293
>Cub pillowfist Swanson

202er?
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>>78243518
He almost permaheemed himself during the weight cut
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>>78243345
I am honestly somewhat envious of DJ's family. He met his wife before he was an MMA star, while he was working some shitty dead end job. Almost hard to believe. She genuinely seems like an amazing woman. Marriageable women are in such short supply now; starting a family seems harder than ever. DJ has it made.

Not to mention he has a devoted fanbase that literally pay money to watch him play video games, and with his stream he has a comfy job set up for after he retires from fighting.
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>>78240562
The best of all time. I'll miss him :(
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>>78243518
He was fighting a superior fighter, messes with his entire grasp on reality.
Even had him thinking he won that fight via DQ, pretty sad.
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>>78243518
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>>78243573
that's why we hate him you fucking dork

no one cares how good he is at fighting
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>>78241085
what a nigger.
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>>78243589
I hope you like the taste of stale semen.
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>>78243573
he's still a little shit though
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>>78243415
cancel 125, 135, 145, 170 & 185
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>>78243616
So you hate him because he's successful and shorter than you?
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>>78240597
>>78240562
>>78240790
>>78243577
>These dickriding autists living vicariously through a coward FAILURE who popped 4 times for steroids, 3 of those when fighting a fat, old manlet with a 12 inch reach disadvantage

Some """GOAT""" you have there, losers. But I guess failures cling to failures, cowards cling to cowards and losers cling to losers. That's why Jones has so many dickriders.
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Say what you like about Tyrone and black beast but I respect them because they have black wives
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>>78243702
Unironically 125 and 145 deserve to go. 125 because >midgets and 145 because they're almost all just cutbabbies who should be at lightweight anyways.
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>>78243728
M-Must defend
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>>78240278
What a stupid piece of shit. How do you fuck up your UFC chance TWICE?
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>>78243765
Why would you respect them for that, all it means is they weren't good enough to date outside their race?

Being with a black woman = objective failure, there's a reason high quality black men always date out.
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>>78243779
The amount of cutbabbies in 145 is getting out of control.
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>>78241085
>Copying my filenames again
Kys, loser.

>>78241980
>NC
Hmmmmmmmmmmmm.

>>78242163
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA.
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>>78243829
It's a failure to be true to your race and want to preserve your genetic heritage? I think you might be retarded son.
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>>78243779
145 is the best division right now. By far
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Is this the p4p best cheese?
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>>78243913
You are a terrible poster my guy.
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>>78243927
>muh race larping
Look the fact of the matter is black women are the least attractive group of women on the planet. There is a reason literally all black men want to date outside their race and lust after non-black girls. Marrying a black woman is settling, it means you weren't good enough for a girl outside your race and had to settle.
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>>78244044
That is an insane level of generalization. It's as if you don't understand how relationships work at all. Getting a wife isn't like getting a car or any other sort of branded product.
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>>78244044
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24464469

Black women are the tightest whiteboi
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>>78243959
The fighters at 145 are fine, the problem is none of them actually belong at 145. The division is fucking stupid.
Max should be a lightweight, he just needs to add a bit of size like Poirier is currently doing.
Fwonkie should be a bantamweight.
Aldo should be a lightweight.
Lamas should be a lightweight.
CSJ should be a bantamweight.
Yair should be a lightweight.
Stephens is a hallmark cutbabby and should be a lightweight.
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>>78243927
Someone down your lineage (lo) is going to procreate with someone outside of their race and there's nothing you can do about it. This is what's known as evolution and natural selection.
Don't shitpost with Joanna please.
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>>78244117
DC will go down as the NATTY GOAT and Jones will go down as a roided up cheat, not unlike Silva.

That being said, DC should retire now. He's got nothing to prove.
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Must make 145
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>>78244147
They have ugly faces and hair. Black skin is also unattractive on women. Oh, and another weird thing is black women always have really ugly belly buttons. They're always really gross malformed outies.
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>>78244207
He's gotta fight Oezdemir.
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>>78244147
Half of them have herpes too
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>>78244235
I disagree, also there need to be more black females in MMA
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>>78244235
>>78244261
Hello /pol/
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LET'S GO!!!
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>>78244117
He's a good fighter. He just doesn't have what it takes to beat Jones, unfortunately.
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>>78244286
/pol/ is synonymous with newfag nowadays
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>>78244298
WHORE GAY MASS VID ALL?
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>>78243655
what are you implying, canada?
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>>78244286
Uhhh I think you're mistaken buddy, /pol/ fetishizes the fuck out of black women. BLEACHED threads always reach autosage over in that shithole.
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>"I CAN'T COMPROMISE TO A FIGHT WITH TJ DILLASHAW! I KNOW HE NEVER MISSED WEIGHT IN HIS LIFE BUT WHAT IF HE MISSES WEIGHT AND DOESN'T SHOW UP?? NO WAY JOSE, I'LL FIGHT RAY BORG!"
>Ray Borg pulls out again, fight gets RESCHEDULED to UFC 216

The fucking state of the supposed "GOAT" of the sport. I seriously hope no one, from casuals to veterans and even JUST BLEED fags. I hope NO ONE takes this midget COWARD seriously or considers him anything but a hack and a fraud.

>>78244239
For what purpose?

>>78244265
Rematch with Gus, maybe. Manuwa fucked himself out of a title shot, Rumble isn't around, everyone else is green or a bust.

I'd want him to retire, though. He's old as balls.

>>78244286
>Facts are /pol/ now
Wew.
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>>78244384
I wouldn't know. I don't go there often. Mostly because it puts me in a bad mood reading all the extreme left news headlines.
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>>78244423
Why is Dana still booking him?

This is how desperate the childweight division is. Fuck them.
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>>78243518
Maybe the fact his luck ran over. Seriously, this guy's career is build on Silva beating himself twice.
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>>78244437
He was never able to generate any significant offense like gustafsson did.
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DC killed his daughter while Jon Jones had a fender bender with a woman
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>>78244577
>winning until he lost
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>>78244484
TJ's already booked and Cejudo's close to his last fight.

I fucking hope that manlet pulls out again, just to kill that shitty division once and for all.
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>MFW I actually thought Dennis Siver would beat McGregor
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>>78244577
The judges had Jones up 2-0. He wasn't.
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Well done USADA, Well done.
HOWEVER
When are we going to overturn the first fight where Jon was obviously roiding?
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Hey pussy are you still there?
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>>78244423
Anderson Silva's 3 best wins
>Dan Henderson
>Vitor Belfort
>Rich Franklin 2x

GSP's 3 best wins
>BJ Penn 2x
>Matt Hughes 2x
>Carlos Condit

DC's 3 best wins
>Anthony Johnson 2x
>Alexander Gustafsson
>Anderson Silva

Mighty Manlet's 3 best wins
>Joseph Benavidez 2x
>John Dodson 2x
>Henry Cejudo

Yeah I don't think anyone is calling DJ the GOAT anytime soon.
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>>78244636
dc was competitive but he wasn't winning
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>>78244639
Me too. He looked pretty good in his other fights. Then he got railed.
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>>78244689
Yes he was
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If the Flyweights were scrapped, the UFC could save a lot of money and pay other fighters better
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Alves out
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>>78244668
Yep. Jones outstruck him in both rounds, dude.
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>>78244710
No he was not. It only seemed like that because he came out more aggressive than last time
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>>78244745
USADA?
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IT FEELS SO GOOD

Literally none of the male champions except for Tyron are unlikable now.
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>>78244726
Rewatch it without commentary, Rogan and Cruz were biased to DC.
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Imagine unironically actually thinking that wmma is better than men's 125

Invicta needs to become women's UFC and they have to stop mixing wmma into real MMA cards
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>>78244808
Conor is unlikable.
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>>78244830
Jose, let it go
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>>78244830
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>>78244828
at least wmma has something nice to look at. mens 125 is unwatchable
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>>78244665

Never or you might as well overturn all his fights.

Also:

>I punch the hardest in the UFC of all the fighters

What a goof.
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>>78244830
I agree tbqh, he's a likeable fighter but he's ruining MMA
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>>78244902
>Never or you might as well overturn all his fights.
I have no problem with that.

Apparently Jon is fucking famous for being a junkie.
Back when he was a new kid he frequently ran away from the guys asking for his piss.
NASTY guy.
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>>78244665
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>>78244687
He doesn't deserve to be anywhere near that list.

He thinks beating manlets in the most shallow division of them all is the equivalent of doing what Silva did, steroids or not. I fucking hate him so much, man. Jesus Christ, I hate this manlet.
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>>78244909
He literally asked for Khabib IN RUSSIA.
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>>78245003
So? You know for a fact that fight will never happen.

He's turning MMA into mandrama.
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>>78245003
that would never happen though, its a good way to make yourself look like a badass without actually having to go through with it.
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>>78244887
Most wmma fighters are fucking ugly
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>>78240256
>Woodley ducking RDA
>Bisping ducking everyone
>Conor ducking contenders

UFC is not my guy anymore.
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Lads, it's not even funny how much Jones completely ruined.
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>>78245053
more attractive than manlets in 125
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>>78245069
Woodley would retire RDA
>>
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>>78245165
The baseball player?
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>>78244689
I was there live and thought DC was winning but when I watched the replay it looks like Jones had it.
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>>78245165
Who?
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>>78245165
Reyes will beat Perry, watch
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Can someone tell me why DC hasn't smiled since the this whole revelation started?

In the podcasts he was on he said that he felt sick as opposed to jubilant.

Wouldn't you be over the moon to learn the SOLE guy who has beaten you, the SOLE obstacle in your way to #1, your SOLE rival who could challenge you for that belt, the guy that you HATE with all your heart, the guy who KISSED you after he knocked you out just to rub salt in your wounds - turned out to be a complete fraud?

Why isn't DC celebrating?
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fuck calendar pedo
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>>78245223
I hope this isn't the guy

http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Alex-Reyes-24199
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What division is the least JUST right now?

I would go with 135. TJ vs Cody is a fantastic fight. Then you got Rivera as a fresh title contender. Cruz lurking in the background waiting for a rematch.
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>>78245246
He knows he was beat by a better fighter.
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>>78245246
Because he still got knocked out and lost. Put yourself in your shoes, you come second in a race, get depressed, then find out the guy who was was disqualified. You can't retroactively celebrate, the moment is gone, history has been made.
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>>78245237
the man is a 155er on 3 day notice, debuting in UFC
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>>78245273
Women's 125.
I don't hate any of them yet.
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>>78245246
Because he knows the only person who could ever legitimize his legacy as the GOAT beat him once, and was cheating the second time. They'll never fight again. Following that, everybody saw DC get KO'd. You can't just erase that from your mind.
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>>78245305
That makes it even worse for Perry
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>>78245272
>>78245165
http://mmajunkie.com/2017/06/dominick-reyes-head-kick-kd-cocky-opponent-ufc-deal
Turns out he's the one that headkicked that guy that decided to start breakdancing
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>>78245300
but a NC is about the same as saying the fight never even happened.
>>78245299
fuck off jonfag
>>78245310
but like some anon said yesterday "Jon's entire career is an asterisk". Who's to say he wasn't using all the way through? Jones vs DC 1 was pre-USADA.
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>>78244117
It won't.
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>>78244687
You think one of DC's three best wins is a fully cooked, 41 y/o, zero camp, two-day-notice Anderson Silva?
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>>78245359
Everybody was using pre-USADA, though. Including DC.
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>>78245376
I guess Barnett would'v been more appropriate.
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Do fighters ever use stench strats? Not showering for days before a fight in order to distract your opponent with the stink?
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>>78245376
Hendo would've been a better choice
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>>78245161
Why is he ducking him then?
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>>78245273
Yeah, I agree. FW ain't far behind with all the young talent on the roster
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>>78245359
He got kicked in the head. Steroids didn't make DC have shit defense.
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Interesting, just yesterday I was posting about Mark Hunt and today I found this vid.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mu7fOcBBKqk

Watch from 3:06 forward, watch how flush that Crocop head kick lands and how the fact that Hunt didn't die on the fucking spot is amazing.
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>>78244639
what was your reasoning desu
siver was like +1000
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>>78245350
No it isn't, Dominick "The Devastator" Reyes is a LHW
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>>78245414
I think Matt Hughes used to do that
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>>78245389
Proof or GTFO
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>>78245450
It's not just that one moment though.
You have to take the entire fight into account.
Maybe his defence was lethargic because Jon's stamina was superior, thus tiring out DC.

>>78245389
Perhaps.
I'd still be happy if I was him though.
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>>78245465
>siver was like +1000

in 2013?
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>>78245500
Where's your proof Jon was on steroids pre-USADA? :)
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>>78240395
When they strip the belt they had better give it back to DC. If they make him fight someone for it it would be a giant insult.
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>>78245513
It was 2015 m8 what u on about
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>>78245273
145, some great contenders and the best group of ufc prospects
155 too
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>>78245455
Mark's skull is made of concrete.
He takes shots to the head as well as the best of boxers.
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>>78245525
No he just decided to start using after they started testing for it you fucking clown
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>>78245562
I'm not defending Jon here, but he's saying 'proof or gtfo' when he has no proof or substantial evidence that Jon used steroids pre-USADA.
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>>78245513
conor wasn't in the ufc in 2013 desu
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>>78240562
He may be the GOAT, but he's not the natty GOAT.
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>>78245576
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>>78245576
There's no proof of that, though. Everybody knows EVERYBODY was on steroids pre-USADA. It was just swept under the rug.
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>>78245554
>January 18, 2015
Dennis Siver +775â–¼ +725â–¼ +645â–¼ +600â–¼ +760â–¼ +650â–² +648â–¼ +650â–¼ +650â–¼ +660â–² +675â–¼

>sorry for the spam, that seems more reasonable
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>>78245619
>Everybody knows EVERYBODY was on steroids pre-USADA.
Cool sources, nigger.
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Am i the only person on planet earth who does not give a single fuck if jon jones or anybody else takes steroids/PEDs?
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>>78245069
>w-woodley ducking rda
>*Woodley heems rda*
>OH MY GOD RDA IS A LIGHTWEIGHT, WHY IS TYRON DUCKING (insert ww with the most recent win)!!!
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>>78245620
idk why I thought it was +1000, I think Conor might've been -1000?
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>>78245466
Oh yep you're right. He's actually related to alex tho
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>>78245633
That's the point, there are no sources. It was swept under the rug, while we all know that everyone used pre-USADA.
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GSP is such a likeable lad
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>>78245506
I understand what you're saying about overall performance, but DC was asking for it. He hates body kicks so much he'd rather get brain damage than a hunt to the gut.
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>>78243229
Do they just not give him show money because he's a manlet? lel.
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>>78245592
>conor wasn't in the ufc in 2013 desu

His first UFC fight was April 6, 2013 against Brimage.
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>>78245660
>everyone used pre-USADA.
but does that mean they all used the same amounts?

I'm not a narcotics expert. I know the basic anabolic steroids and PEDs, however, is it not possible for guys to use varying doses/more powerful substances without being caught pre-USADA?

Even if they BOTH use, one still may have an unfair advantage.
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>>78245640
Idc as long as everyone is on the same playing field, but that isn't the case here.
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>>78245689
Didn't they do the same thing to t ferg after tiramisu ? Thinks it's more the new owners
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>>78245644
>don't watch fights
>look up results
>spam /heem/
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NO MEME QUESTION TIME
>NO MEME QUESTION TIME

If you believe Branch stands a stand on sunday, explain why. Dont give me the it feels right. Tell me.
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>>78240562
This. Fuck Daniel cuckmier. I hate how casual faggots think he doesn't juice as well. Jones will always be the goat!
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>>78245716
>he actually had faith in the American Negro
The absolute state of this roach.
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>>78245717
Tony was given like 50% since he was going to make a sizable amount
Mightmeme didn't get paid because they are rescheduling for 216
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>>78245734
PRO TIP YOU CANT LMAO
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>>78245734
i'm pretty sure he stands a stand on fight night
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>>78240562
He lost to Matt Hamill
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>>78245734
Because puke cuckhold has been officially flushed

He's lost his mental drive
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>>78245708
>>78245716
Look, lads. I wasn't defending Jon but although I feel he has definitely tainted his legacy, there's still a little bit of leeway pre-USADA. He fought Chael, Shogun, Lyoto, Rashad, Bader, Rampage, and Vitor, who were all obviously on steroids, Vitor especially on TRT.

My point was that we really do not know, so we can't just throw away the pre-USADA part of his career because nobody really knows what anybody was using. Look at Silva, he was seen as the GOAT, but popped and hasn't looked the same since USADA.
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For sure DC is a clean athlete my guy
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>>78245734
Rockhold is a chinlet meme Branch is wrestler with great standup and an unbreakable chin watch the embedded you seething casual
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>>78245819
thats what a man from luisiana looks like pal
>>
>He likes Jones over Cormier
>He likes Aldo over Conor
>He likes GSP over Bisping
>He likes Tyron over RDA
>He likes Dillashaw over Mighty Mouse
>He likes Namajunas over Jedrzejczyk
>He likes Nate over Conor
>He likes Nate over Nick
>He likes Overeem over Miocic
>He likes anyone over Mark Hunt

If any of these apply to you then please leave my general
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>>78243142
you called?
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>>78245842
Fuck Silva, too?
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>>78245868
This
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>>78240256
>http://www.bjpenn.com/mma-news/georges-st-pierre/luke-rockhold-doubts-joke-georges-st-pierre-will-show-ufc-217/
At least GSP potentially has an MMA career ahead of him. Can't say the same for Luke.

GSP: 9 or 10 defenses, whatever, popularized MMA. Icon.

Luke: won belt, unable to defend, therefore not a champion. Unknown outside MMA. Literally aspires to be an underwear model.
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>>78245817
Okay fuck thats true. Or at least it could be.
>>78245830
Branch does not got Rockhold on the ground, he is a good striker and can possibly shook Rockhold but thats a possibility with every fight.
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>>78245868
>Bumming champions
>When the champ loses, he'll start bandwagoning the new champion
Worst type of casual
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Yeah he took steroids and drugs so what

Yeah he hit and run some preggo so what

Still the 21-0 goat that made the paper champion cry

Moralfags can go and cry as much they want,he is still the champion of real people who arent perfect
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>>78245904
That's not me.
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>>78245903
It's a pure coincidence that almost all of the current champions are likeable.
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>>78244687
>featherweight dinosaur twice
>dinosaur twice
>no tdd twinks
woodley last 4 wins are better than gsp's whole resume
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>>78245917
Exactly this. GSP is the confirmed GOAT.

What happens if Bisping beats him, though?
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>>78245868
>Mighty Mouse
>>>/r/mma
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>>78245868
196er: The Post
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>>78245932
GSP never got knocked unconscious by Nate Marquardt tho
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>>78245911
Niggers aren't real people, you turk rapebabby.
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>>78245904
ugh he's so pathetic lol
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>>78245932
They weren't dinosaurs when GSP beat them.
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>>78245932
GSP's record is so overrated I think he might end up actually losing to a trash fighter like Bisping
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>>78245917

agreed
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>>78245747
Oh for sure daniel cormier has been on the gas since strikeforce my man.
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>>78245917
>I am literally forced to accept that GSP is the only GOAT left standing now.

The roid gut needs to be tucked buddeh
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>>78245974
His arm look like three of mine.

How do I acquire them gains?
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>>78245953
no, he just tapped to strikes by a midget. nate is a roider

>>78245964
they are now, tyron would heem every one of them on the same night.

>>78245966
the only person tyron might have issues with is hendricks, and I still think he heems him.
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>>78244808
DC has the belt again?
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>>78245996
Well, he's the only supposed "GOAT" who hasn't tested positive for anything and was USADA's poster boy.

Hmm. It's almost like USADA picks and chooses who gets popped.

Hmmmmmmmmmmmm.
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>>78245932
>woodley last 4 wins are better than gsp's whole resume
>>78245966
>GSP's record is so overrated

how young are you?
gsp reigned WW when it was the most stack division mma has ever seen, before or since.

kids need to learn their history.
bet you fell for the gsp-blanket meme, too.
go watch his fights, ffs.

Here's that split photo of Fitch and Kos after they lost to gsp
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>>78244830
So is Cody.
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>>78245953
Losing to a roided out MW is way better than tapping to strikes from 5'6" Matt Serra
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>>78246011

And why do you think they would target Jon Jones
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>>78245961
But that's not even me lol
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>>78245998
3 boxes a day
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>>78246001
>Implying Tyron wasn't on steroids pre-USADA
Not this again
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>>78245576
B T F O
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>>78245734
He passes the smell test
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>>78246040
same exact pic it's (You), don't respond to me
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>>78246037
Huh, what? I never said anything!
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>>78246023
Common opponents that GSP and Woodley have are Koscheck and Condit. Woodley finished them both.

GSP knows Woodley is a better fighter than him, that's why he's going up to MW to face a less dangerous slower guy.
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>>78246045
Look at him smile.
He is literally impossible to dislike.
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>>78246067
>same exact pic it's
What does this even mean? I have never posted that image and I rarely ever phonepost.
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>>78246001
Looking at your posts and assessing your MMA knowledge, I have to assume you started watching MMA next month, amirite?
>>
Tyroid will be exposed by RDA
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>>78246074
>"Finished" Condit
Not apart of this debate, but c'mon dude, don't do Condit like that
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>>78246001
>no, he just tapped to strikes by a midget. nate is a roider
I think you just copy what other people say and don't actually watch fights. He didn't tap turby/
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>gsp will soon be the only champion left
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>>78245350
Literally says dominick reyes you fucking asshat
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>>78246080
>complete nonsense
Why are you projecting so hard? you wouldn't need to defend yourself otherwise
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>>78246048
>preusada
winning
>postusada
winning

here's an L

>>78246085
>>78246107
you tapped too? no arguments
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>>78246122
Okay.
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>>78246103
>don't do Condit like that
Woodley convincingly won round and he was whooping him as well in round 2.
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>>78246122
it's springsperg bro, he's permarevved
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Here's a hypothetical situation.
Conor McGregor retires from combat fighting tomorrow.
Ronda Rousey has already signed her contract with the WWE.
Jon Jones has had his reputation tarnished.

Who does Dana start sucking the cock of to make his new cash cow?
Who becomes the new biggest "star" of the UFC?

Who does Dana suddenly rely on for people to get interested in the sport?
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>>78246102
I actually agree. bisping will seriously hurt him, I'm a woodleyfag and he has a better chance against tyron imo

>>78246103
condit was losing that fight, fag
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>>78246148
I'd shamelessly admit if it was me, but it isn't in this case.
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>>78246148
lol I know who it is, I find it entertaining to watch him defend himself over and over when caught red handed.
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>>78246156
Nobody, MMA is dead
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>>78246156

Cody
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>>78246156
I for one am glad the era of mega-stars is over. The cream will makes its way to the stop without having to force people on you who aren't good at fighting (CM Punk, Saige, Paige)
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>>78246156
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>>78246132
GSP didn't tap to matt serra. End of discussion.
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>>78246140
>>78246157
Yeah, he was winning but to say that's a "finish" is a bit cheap, it's an injury.

Again, not apart of the debate, Condit's just one of my favourite fighters of all time
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>>78246156
I wonder who could be behind this post?
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>>78246132
>knocked unconscious pre-USADA
losing :)
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>>78246132
sorry bro, you just don't know much about the sport, that's all.
I'm glad you're interested, seriously.
And I'm glad you actually post instead of just lurking, but when you post you should know what you're talking about.
MFW I'm not trying to insult you, just trying to make /heem/ better.

You're not shy, you post, that's good.
Some people, maybe most people, are just too shy to post. But you aren't. And sure, you don't know shit, but all that means is you have to watch the sport and learn.
All those years of fights are recorded, so just watch them. In no time, you'll be posting here and making a contribution, instead of ust shitting up the board. I look forward to watching your progress.
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>>78246178
Grow up.
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>>78246209
It was a finish, he injured himself fighting and the fight got stopped. Woodley was winning anyway. No one ever says Weidman didn't beat Silva just cause the latter broke his leg.
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>>78246226
lol
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>>78246222
Good post, Georges
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>>78246208
he tapped to a midgets strikes.

>>78246220
>undispited welterweight champion of the world
winning
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>>78246240
>>78245904
>today I learned Moral Springs is the confirmed spammer

interesting
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>>78246208
>GSP didn't tap to matt serra
Actually he did casual, go watch the fight again.
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>>78246229
Yeah, but Weidman had already beaten Silva before, which is one of the deciding factors. Had that been their first fight, a rematch would've definitely been on the cards.

Again, I just think it's abit cheap.
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what would the shitstorm be like if a fighter wore non reebok branded boxers secretly then in the ring they pulled them above their shorts with the branding on the band easily visible around their waste

is anyone here in the UFC? someone do it
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>>78245974
Oh for sure if you take steroids you will automatically look like Yoel Romero
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Valentina btfo to flyweight by Nunes
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>>78245734
Fore sure more leg reach my guy.
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>>78246263
You're trying to cover your own tracks by framing me. Nothing new from you.
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*fishes for Coral Springs*
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>>78246252
>was scared and got dominated by Rory
losing :)
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>>78246229
there's still resentment towards woodley since he btfo three fan favorites in a row.

>>78246271
he won the round before though
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>>78246288
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Posting on /r/MMA with 5 accounts upvoting all my own posts and downvoting ones I don't like

The trick is that if you get the momentum rolling early on with your alternate accounts then the sheep will start upvoting you too pretty much no matter what you say
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>>78246283
Photoshop skills 10/10
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>>78246284
You always say this lol but you have zero evidence to back anything up.

To any non-sperg poster, check the archive.
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>>78246271
>Weidman had already beaten Silva before
This is irrelevant to what happened in the 2nd fight, and I already told you Woodley was winning the fight anyway.
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>>78246290
>Rory
>Nate
>Shields
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>>78246282
Easy belt for her to win granted the caliber of the women on TUF
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>>78246306

post username
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>>78246308
You don't have any evidence either. You already know I don't mobilepost, it was only for the time I posted the hurricane pictures because I wasn't on my computer.
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carlos condit fans wear tapout shirts and listen to at the drive in on repeat. fuck condit. if you think there was any way he was going to beat tyron you're a moron. for starters his takedown defense is non existant
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>>78246156
>Conor McGregor retires from combat fighting tomorrow.
please let it be true

>>78246156
>Who becomes the new biggest "star" of the UFC?
Mickey Gall? Honestly, I think the sport has peaked and is headed down. Here's why:

|||- super-low fighter pay (even Conor had to give most of his Mayweather purse to the UFC)
|||- CTE (athletes literally ending their lives early for a few thousand a year, and sacrificing the quality of their future years)
|||- we'll never have elite athletes enter the sport
|||- huge loss of interest after Mayweather fight; people were curious about MMA, now they don't care. Conor's Q-score plunged and he's literally the only star.

It was a good run, I guess.
The Brazilians will always have soccer if they really want to make it out of the favela, the rest of us can pick fruit or work for Uber.
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am I the only one who thinks """coral sperg""" has 6 different personalities and he just (U)s himself over and over?
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>>78246306
Good use of your time
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>>78246334
Don't hate Conor but I wouldn't mind if MMA went on a temporary down low for a few years after he quits so the sport can filter the casuals out
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>>78246342
Other people have said this about me but they are all wrong. I do nuthug Frankie Edgar on here a lot when I'm not talking about Schaub with someone, but I'm myself and don't try to be anyone else.
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>>78246324
>Lies as per typical from the sperg
>OP matters
>Schaubcucking 25/8

I'm sorry the fact trigger you little one, last (You)
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>>78246334
idk senpai.
My little brother is 16 and he says none of his friends talk about football - only MMA.
I though it's best days are yet to come.
One day McGregor might look small compared to the stars of the future.
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>>78246252
>>78246268
>i clearly felt a tap
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=clx06WTWB-Q
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>>78246375
>OP matters
When did I ever say this? I don't think OP matters at all.
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>>78246334
Yes Connor ruined the sport for everyone
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>>78246302
she could have kept her bra on lol
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>>78246342
All he does is (You) himself all day every day. It's pathetic, really.
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>>78246385
the strap would rub against the tattoo and irritate the skin
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>>78243728

Who cares if he did roids, all of them do.
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*throws a hook*
Watch out anon
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If you were Dana which 3 fighters do you start funneling all your marketing budget it to make superstars? Who has the most potential?

My picks are Mike Perry, Doo ho choi and Kevin lee.
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>>78246404
GADOOOOOOOOOOOOOSH
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>>78246380
He taps with his right hand as Big John is stepping in lmao
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LMAO the UFC is s o fucking m a d that gooby lost to maymeme that they're literally making excuses for him weeks later on unrelated videos
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>>78246408
Cody, Holloway and jj
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>>78246404
I don't understand these heavyweights that weight < 235 pounds.

Fucking dude, lose some fat, get down to 225, then cut 20 pounds and make light heavyweight.

Schaub would have killed JJ at lhw.
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>>78246408
Kevin Lee
Francis Ngannou
Yair Rodriguez
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>>78246380
>this damage control
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>>78246426
Why are they talking about Boxing in a Weidman/Rockhold vid?
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>>78246426
>>
>>78246408
cody
kevin lee

literally everyone else is >30
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>>78246380
big john should have stopped the fight way before the tap
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>>78246440
Schaub doesn't have the heart and overall fortitude to make that kind of weight cut.
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>>78246444
>Yair Rodriguez
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>>78246440
For sure he wouldn't end up like DC my man
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>>78246408
DO THE DAMN TING
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>>78246408
Lee Perry and Yair
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>>78246467
kek
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>>78246467
Inserting your fetish into someone else' life like this is sos trange.
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>>78246408
Cody
Gastelum if he cuts down
Gaethje
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>>78246467
LMAO
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>>78246492
are we talking about your schaub fetish again?
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>>78246505
Link it, I'm still waiting.
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>>78246475
Someone should have told the lad to keep his eye tucked
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>>78246505
ouch
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>>78246436
>>78246444
>>78246460
>>78246489
>Nobody else picked Gaethje
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>>78246440
how to get a tall russian gf?
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>>78246515
top kek
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>>78246440
There's a sweet spot around 230-250lbs

Above that it starts to become detrimental
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>>78246529
Cause no one cares about him. He'll be heemed soon anyway.
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>>78240269
Remember to use his thread otherwise he'll be really upset
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>>78246529
i was going to cos i only put 2, but he's 28, not that good, ugly and not a shittalker

hard to make into a huge star with no charisma look at mighty mouse
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>>78246529
>chinlet with good recovery
inconsistent and no longevity, terrible choice brah
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>>78246436
cody might be good, though he is a manlet... JJ has had all the oppurtunity in the world so that would be a waste

>>78246444
ngannou is a great pick. i dont feel like yair will go far honestly, and not really that marketable.
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>>78246536

Are you picking Alvarez over Gaethje?
>>
>>78246529
>implying the gaethje meme would last

>>78246467
get a life
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>>78246536
The lads 18-0 with 15 TKOs/KOs. You could easily market him more than Holloway/Joanna/Yair/Ngannou/Perry
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>>78246560
Grow up
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>>78246529
he's gonna be dead within 3 fights and he only has momentum with hardcore fans. nobody watches tuf
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>>78246554
I think Gaethje will win but I don't like how he fights so he he might as well get flat-lined at any moment.
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>>78246552
Think he meant Joanna
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>>78246552
>good looking flashy memekicker mexican who can speak english
>not really that marketable
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>>78246306
Please at least post pro-Jon Jones comments. I bet those cunts are so smug right now
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>>78246156
>Stipe
>Cody
>Cain
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>>78246573
My best mates girlfriend doesn't like MMA but watches TUF because it's presented like a reality tv show (which it is), so you're wrong there
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>>78246552
>ngannou is a great pick.
black dumb frankenstein looking cunt
>great pick
top kek

name one BLACK UFC ppv draw, this why you cunts broke and danas a billionaire
>>
>>78246440
lol. schaub would still be lunging into peoples fists. jon jones' elbows, whatever it may be that heems him. quality of competition at HW is even lower than LHw, if you believe it.
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>>78246581
meme kicks didn't do well against Frankie my man
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>>78246593
It was funny how fast they turned on DC and went right back on his nuts.
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>>78246530
Mail order bride. She might harvest your organs though.
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>>78246601
>name one BLACK UFC ppv draw
Rashad Evans
Rampage Jackson
Jon Jones
Anderson Silva
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>>78246601
>Le racebaiting aussie sperg
Tired gimmick
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>>78246601
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>>78246467
kekkkk
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>>78246601
Jon jones
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>>78246621
Sad thing is he's a huge cuck.
>>
DJ/BORG IS ON FOR 216
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>>78246601
jon jones. he could be the heavyweight jon jones. black dominant champ that appeals to the cuckold NFL watchers who gas about explosiveness and natural atheletes.
>>78246580
i meant joanna. she's been champ for ages and had crazy mic time but no one seems to really dig her. she doesnt draw
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>>78240269
New
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>>78246595
1 person then
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>>78246634
>>78246544
okay calm down
>>
>>78246601
Jon Jones
Rampage Jackson
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>>78246634
>p-p-please pay attention to me
sad little man
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>>78246659
I'm helping a buddeh out. He made a thread that got cucked by this one.
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>>78246620
>>78246624
exactly jon jones and silva, goats of the sport, both somewhat attractive and charismatic, neither really that big of a draw though, but fracnios could be? fuck no

>>78246621
must be someone else, i'm just saying it how it is, i didn't grow up in america so i dont hate them, all the big draws in mma are white you can't refute that, nothing to do with racism
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>>78246668
Coral I like this personality of yours
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>>78246690
That's not even me lol
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>>78246680
>all the big draws in mma are white you can't refute that, nothing to do with racism
If it has nothing to do with racism then what has it to do with when it's primarily race that you're bringing up?
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>>78246680
>Rampage isn't a draw
I literally heard of Rampage Jackson before I heard of Jon Jones. He's world famous, especially after the A-Team movie
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>>78246745
>I literally heard of Rampage Jackson before I heard of Jon Jones
maybe cos he had the lhw belt before jon? lol
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>>78246767
how does that not make him a draw you fucking spastic? kys
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>>78246767
I didn't start watching MMA until 121
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>>78246274
It wouldn't be that much of a shit storm, they would just fine the fighter. Kind of like how cowboy got fined for sewing that patch onto his shorts
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>>78246680
>fracnios
Slow down man, jesus
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>>78246701
Says its you.
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