>"America would be the best at soccer if we took it seriously"

>>78130836
70% of Major League Baseball players were born in the United States of America.

Football (soccer) and baseball are the best team sports.

>>78130836
CHI

> not even the best at baseball

but they are. Trout is unanimously regarded as the best, by a wide margin actually.

The best hispanic/carribean player of all time is Pujols probably and he's top 15 at best. Pedro has arguably the GOAT pitcher peak I guess.

>>78130884
70% of Major League Baseball players are likely not the best players of Major League Baseball

Japan, South Korea, Cuba, etc. All care about it more on a national level than the US.

>>78130957
I went to a Giants game in Tokyo back in june

The chants were fucking awesome, i didn't understand a word but still

>>78130957
But your OP was "not even the best" and thats incorrect.

>>78131033
I'm not OP. I'm saying that other countries care about national tournaments like the WBC more than the US.

>>78130930
no but being a mediocre player in the US would make you a star in any other country's league.

>>78130921
Do you tell what country is best at soccer by where the best player is from? No, it judged by NT record.

>>78130896
>luckswing
>sport

The players are literally overweight. I guess thats why its so popular in burgerstan.

>>78131305
we don't have a national baseball team. and no, the world baseball exhibition is not a real tournament.

>>78130957
>>78131033
>>78130836
What if we took the inverse and what if other countries tried as hard at basketball and Handegg as they do soccer, would we still be on top?

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>>78131345
Lol

>>78131454
Of course we would be baka

>>78131345
We have players of all shapes and sizes. It still takes an incredible amount of skill to hit a 95+ mph ball as hard as a rock coming towards you. I bet you couldn't even hit 60 mph in the batting cages.

>>78131537
>We have players of all shapes and sizes.

exactly, so do e-sports

>>78131566
No, they're either skinnyfat or obese.

>>78131450
But you do

>Poser, Stanton, Arenado, McCutchen, Hosmer, etc

Yes, Trout, Kershaw and other were missing. But other teams were missing elite players too. DR was missing Colon and Cueto. Japan was missing a bunch of their elite players.

>>78131537
How is hitting a ball with a stick considered a sport tho? All you need is skill (luck). I guess by that logic you think golf is a sport too.

>>78131655
It's almost like all those elite players were missing because nobody gives a fuck about the world baseball exhibition or something.

>>78131660
Hitting a baseball in the MLB takes an unbelievable amount of skill worstugay. It's one of the most difficult feats in sport.

>>78130836

But we're the best at baseball. Just won the WBC and the overwhelming majority of MVPs and Cy Young winners over the past 20 years are American.

>>78131717
Nobody gave a fuck about rugby world cup when it started and now it's a huge success in rugby nations. A lot of elite players now say they regret not playing.

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>America wouldn't btfo the rest of the planet if it tried at soccer

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>>78131749
> Past 20 years

Quick question: do spics get to claim Arod in this scenario?

>>78131655
because no one gives a shit, it's an obvious attempt to shill baseball in central american countries.

>baseball is popular in america
Sure maybe 30 years ago. Besides there's far more great non-American baseball players than there are great American players these days. As for soccer, no one except beta males and soccer moms care about it. Not because we aren't good, but because we don't care. The only time it springs interest are when we face Mexico or it's a World Cup game.

>>78131812
I'm a Dominican and I wouldn't the traitor played for the US in a WBC.

>>78131741
Im not saying it doesnt. Im saying its not a sport. Playing chess at a grand master level or hitting a hole in one or getting a pentakill also require "an unbelievable amount of skill".

>>78131782
Who cares about Rugby? The MLB World Series is the real world championship and everyone knows it. That's where all the money is and that's where all the stakes are at. It's like saying somebody isn't a great boxer because they never won a gold medal at the Olympics.

>>78131828
>Don't care about baseball
>Don't care about soccer
>Blacks are the best at football
>Blacks are the best at basketball

What do white Americans care about?

>>78131850
you're right, once someone gets a hit in baseball both teams go home. literally nothing happens before or after that event.

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>"America wouldn't be the best at soccer if we took it seriously"

>>78131884
A fatty jogs 5m and a guy thats been trimming his pubes for 2 hours out there throws the ball back. Wow. Sports.

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>>78131880
Money

>>78131859
>Comparing club championships to NT championships
>Comparing amateur boxing to professional boxing

>>78130836
you guys ever heard of cricket?

tell me, what makes a good pitcher. I find it interesting that while superficially similar in some ways, in cricket the advantage is with the batsman, while in baseball it seems to be with the fielding side.

>>78131950
>>Comparing club championships to NT championships
There is no comparison. The MLB is where all the money and viewers are at. I'm sure most people have never even heard of the WBC. Why should anybody care?

>>78131952
Cricket rules are weird, why do matches last like 5 days

>>78131925
he jogs because he knows that he didn't hit it far enough to get past the world class arm in the outfield.

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>>78131660
>How is hitting a ball with a stick considered a sport tho?

It's probably useless to explain it to you, but hitting is one of the most difficult skills in sports, and hitting major league pitching is arguably the most difficult (primary) skill in sports.

>Luck

Luck implies we all have an "equal" chance at success. Fun fact. The average bat speed of an MLB hitter is about 90-100mph. The average Joe's bat speed is about 30-40mph.

You only have a 120ms window to get the bat around to hit a 95ish mph fastball. From comparisons I've seen, the average Joe takes about 300ms to get a bat around.

And this is only the athleticism part of swinging. A good swing requires precise execution of mechanics. Any hiccup, and you won't see success. If a hitter is 7 milliseconds off either way, a foul ball is likely.

http://www.businessinsider.com/science-major-league-fastball-brain-reaction-time-2016-4

One of the hardest things to learn along with all of that is how to visualize the strikezone. Even MLB players have trouble with it. Then, you have to learn the tendencies of 100s of pitchers and how those tendencies relate to your strengths and weakness.

Miguel Cabrera, for instance, will remember what a pitcher threw him on a 2-1 count with a man on a base in a 2 out situation 7 years ago.

>Teammates say Cabrera has something that approximates a photographic memory when it comes to his swings. The story goes that he can remember several seasons’ worth of plate appearances in almost pitch-by-pitch detail.

There's nothing "lucky" about it. The Luckswing name is probably one of the stupider names for baseball I've seen.

>>78132025
This like saying the world champion is the winner of the Champions League and not the winner of the World Cup. It's a nonsensical comparison because their each the world champions in their respective areas.

>>78131660
how is kicking a large, slow, and soft ball a sport? all you need is a natural body part that's wired to your brain and is used everyday from birth lmao

>>78132091
>The Luckswing name is probably one of the stupider names for baseball I've seen.

This, at least boreball is a valid critique.

>>78132119
But people actually care about the World Cup. The WC finals are THE most viewed sporting event on planet Earth. Nobody cares about WBC. Nobody watches it. Why should anybody care about it?

it's funny how much we sound like the mexicans when we just keep saying "oh we dont even field our best players on the NT, literally our G team"

Baseball autists are worse than /cric/ autists.

Reminder that people are paid 20-30 million dollars to hit a ball 3 times out of 10.

And that's considered really good.
Shit aint easy.

>>78132175
Viewership is increasing by double digits every edition int the US and it's already a huge thing in every other baseball playing nation. It's never going to be on the scale of the World Cup because very few countries play baseball. The US is the only baseball country that doesn't watch it atm.

>>78130836
Does anyone actually unironicaly think we would be the best at Soccer if we took it seriously?

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>>78131850
>Im saying its not a sport.

Why not?

The only physical attribute baseball doesn't challenge is stamina.

The average player speed in the MLB is 18.4 mph, which is as fast as Robben ran during his famous World Cup sprint. In fact, baseball players consistently reach higher sprint speeds in game than soccer players.

Average vertical leap of an MLB player is 28". Average NBA vertical? 28".

A pitcher generates about 1200 pounds of leg power, same as a soccer player when they kick a ball full power. MLB hitters generate 8000 pounds of power during a swing.

Sure, a few fatties who are exceptionally skilled as well as athletic (fat=/=unathletic) finds themselves in specialist positions, like DHs and relief pitchers, but fatties aren't the rule in baseball. Out of the league's top 200 players, you'll only find find one fatty (CC Sabathia).

>>78132185
the WBC was founded in 2005. we're not making excuses, we're just not participating because it means nothing.

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>>78132160
>This, at least boreball is a valid critique.

Indeed. I'm not going to tell people what to like nor criticize them for their taste. If the pitcher/batter matchup bores you, you'll never like baseball. I like most sports, and baseball is simply a different experience than goal sports. I'm just as entertained watching Joey Votto draw a walk after 13 pitches that ends in a razor thin take of a ball a half-inch out of the strikezone as watching Lebron, Curry, Odell, etc, etc.

But I can understand why the former bores people. They want to see constant running and jumping. Fair enough.

>>78132230
So some day it'll be worth caring about. Neato.

>>78132270
How is that an argument? The T-Rex can't held properly the baseball bat yet still beat the MLB player.

>>78132352
It's gotta start somewhere. Baseball is an international sport, it needs and international competition that's credible. The US has a history of making excuses in international conference competition whenever there's a challenge desu.

>>78132441

T-Rex's are beasts. They have great natural bat paths, and due to their extraordinary vision, the ball just slows down for them.

>>78132450
it's not an international sport on the scale that warrants an international competition. we totally outweigh them at this point. this trend of american sports branching into other countries has been a relatively recent phenomenon fueled by paranoid commissioners and it will eventually pass. the world will never get over soccer so fuck 'em.

>>78130836
>Not even the best at baseball
We're the reigning WBC champs even though we sent a 3rd tier roster.

>>78131345
>>78131660
>>78131850
>>78131925
Is this really how Uruguayans see the world?

>>78132270
sprints in football isn't the same as sprints in baseball.

>best Basketball players are black
>Handegg is 70% black also
>best Baseball players are hispanic and like 22% of the demographics

How cucked can white americans be? You're literally worst than France.

The only reason we're not the best at soccer is because we don't care. Every sport/activity we care about we're the best at.

>>78132061
because it takes a long time to get 11 batsmen out and then you have two innings per side.

>>78132840
Oh shit, its the burger defense force special delicia ops

kys viado

>>78132963
what does viado mean? is that a bad word?

>>78132978
It means 'faggot.'

>>78132963
Nobody needs a defense force to protect against your """""""arguments"""""""""

>>78132922
And coincidentally (or not) every main Sport you are good at the rest of the world don't give a shit.
I have no idea how is your Baseball comparing to Japan and Spic countries, but considerer how many foreigners you have they must be at least good.
Only Lativia and maybe other Balkan country must really care about Basketball. Argentina won against you in Olympics even being their second or third sport and having not even near the same investment you have.
Nobody cares about Handegg.

>>78130836
no members of the usmnt are one the top 5 million athletes in this country

>>78133023
Americans don't care about any of that. Our apathy is unbeatable and yuropoors and spics don't understand how deep it runs.

Only sports that should be on /sp/ are football, baseball, basketball, hockey, and golf.

>>78133045
I would believe that if you guys weren't so butthurt in every thread shit talking America.

>>78133114
>shit talk somebody
>hurr why you mad tho
Average Brazilian IQ is 87. It shows.

>>78133045
your girls sure love posh dick though. theyre all social climbers the minute they come here,

>>78133114
I don't know if it's just you or what but there's been a large amount of Brazilian shitposting on this board lately

>>78133023
>Spic countries
>says Brazil
Uh...

>>78133150
I wish I had a dumb accent for easy puss.

>>78130836
>Literally just won the WBC

Why is this thread even up

>>78133141
Isn't apathy lack of emotions, Sasuke?

>>78133181
Where did you get that I said spic offensively, retarded?

>better than japan at baseball
>better than argentina at basketball
>better than canada at hockey
>better than england and mexico in soccer

who can stop us

>>78133209
Apathy about other countries legitimate opinions of us. Mindlessly shitposting makes everybody mad.

Even Brazil fields players in every major sports league in burguerland and the only thing we care about is football.

Can you imagine if we actually cared about them? :^)

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>huetards and yurofats obsessed with getting our attention
Yes, if you continually act like retards in American sports threads, obviously we're going to notice. Just try to contain your autism in your own filtered threads like the rest of your countrymen.

>>78133229
>better than japan at baseball
It's all about luck tho, is in the name, Luckswing.

>better than argentina at basketball
And you are proud of that? As I said before they don't have nothing near the investment you have, they would literally destroy your pace negros if they cared as much as they do for Football.

>better than canada at hockey
Nobody cares.

>better than england and mexico in Football
I'll give this to you.

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>>78132403
this is not an athlete. by any stretch of the imagination. it is a man who specializes in hitting a ball, much like a golfer.

>>78133278
>>better than england and mexico in Football
>I'll give this to you.

fuck off cunt and baseball isnt just luck though it is intellectually inferior to cricket.

>>78133323
Is just bantz brother.

>>78133259
>Brazil fields players in every major sports league in burguerland

sounds like caring to me

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>>78131859
I kinda care about Rugby, it's a nice town

>>78133314

Fat=/=unathletic. Fielder was clocked at 18 mph on the basepaths.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_YDMahLB_M

In his prime, Fielder ran a 6.8 60 yard dash, which translates into a 4.5 forty. Of course, you gain speed, but a safe estimate is around 4.7.

Cristiano Ronaldo ran a 25m dash under laboratory conditions in 3.61 seconds. You can give Ronaldo Usain Bolt 10m split times and his 40 yard prorates out to about 4.8 seconds.

Fielder was also a below average player.

>>78130836
>not even best at baseball
>won the WBC with our z team
Ok chap

>>78133023
We're the best at boxing though.

>>78133350
i will ride into your favela on horseback and kill every man whos not fit to work!

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>>78131952
>tell me, what makes a good pitcher.

Velocity.

Movement. There's some pitchers who have blazing velocity but can't produce movement so they're easy to hit.

(For starting pitchers) Need to have shutdown 2nd, 3rd, and even 4th pitches, e.e. a great curveball, slider, changeup in addition to a moving fastball.

Ability to almost robotically deliver every pitch the exact same way. Hitters can pick up on body language cues, changing arm angles, changing arm speed, and the like.

Control. Most important. Every batter is different. Some batters punish low balls on the outer half of plate, some batters like the ball high and inside, and some, like Mike Trout, seem to have complete zone coverage. A pitcher needs to be able to hit those 3 inches boxes within the zone consistently. See pic. You leave a ball in the fourth row of boxes, Judge is making good contact. But if you can hit the strikezone just a inch below, his contact rate plummets.

Yeah, baseball is like an inversion of cricket.

>>78131850
God you couldn't be more retarded

>>78131795
Replace the best of nba/nfl with the soccer scrubs and tell me Us wouldn't take the cup almost every year

>>78134045
>2 meter guys controlling a Football with their feet
United States is not the only country in the world with tall people, believe me, lanklets just can't play Football at the highest level.
Plus all the fatties of NFL would be summarily rejected, they wouldn't be able to run 10 minutes non stop without missing those constant breaks in NFL.

>>78134103

True. I would say the ideal soccer height is 5'5"-5'9" generally.

>>78134103
i bet DBs and safeties could keep up. it takes a lot more energy to rapidly shift direction without knowing which way you're gonna go like a receiver does. so those guys tend to develop ridiculous amounts of stamina.

>>78134218
>i bet DBs and safeties could keep up.

Soccer fans overrate the stamina demands of the sport, and any pro athlete who trains his body to sprint 4.3-4.5 40 speeds would have enough stamina by default to deal with soccer's endurance, which is similar to basketball and aerobics.

The whole controlling the ball with the feet thing is soccer's main challenge, obviously.

>>78130836
>american sports
>all the best athletes are niggers except for ice hockey
>ice hockey is dominated by canadian and soviet ice niggers.

The only sport they're good at is eating.

>>78134247
I didn't overrated, but it would be a big change of paradigm having to run all the time rather than having constant breaks.

>>78134247
t. Never played soccer.

Football required almost no stamina. Energy in short bursts ≠ keeping a steady for a long time. If this were the car sprinters could keep up with long distance runners.

>>78133507
>Z team
>This delusion

More like B+ team with B- pitchers.

>>78134296
>I didn't overrated, but it would be a big change of paradigm having to run all the time rather than having constant breaks.

A lot of NFL players run miles at a time for their conditioning. Jerry Rice would run 2 and half miles non-stop up a steep hill. .

Average distance covered in soccer match is about 7 miles over 90 minutes. Do the math and that's about walking speed.

NFL position players would be able to keep up. That said, I do agree that soccer players have an edge here since NFL players have more muscle mass, which affects stamina.

>>78134247
>and any pro athlete who trains his body to sprint 4.3-4.5 40 speeds would have enough stamina by default to deal with soccer's endurance

Holy shit no. You have literally no understanding of how training as a pro athlete or training in general works

>>78134326
>Football required almost no stamina. Energy in short bursts

But to achieve the athleticism to compete over those short bursts, you have to do a shitload of training which will naturally give you great endurance by default.

As I said, Jerry Rice would over 2 miles without stopping up steep hills. 7 miles over 90 minutes won't tire him out. Now is his stamina as great as a professional soccer player? Obviously not. Football players tend to be bigger, have more muscle mass, which all affects stamina.

But Rice wouldn't be "dying" after a soccer match, like most soccer fans assume.

>>78134361
7 miles is not the average distance covered, it's the average distance run during a match.

The average NFL player runs 1.25 miles in about 11 minutes a play time, which is terrible.

That being said their different kinds of athletes so comparing them is pointless. One trains for endurance and the other for strength and explosiveness.

>>78134418
See
>>78134373
And
>>78134437

>>78134373

What's impressive about soccer's stamina demands?

We're not talking marathons, triathlons, cross country skiing. We're talking 7 miles over 90 minutes with a 15 minute break in between. Calorie to Calorie, soccer burns about as much as aerobics.

If you don't think an NFL CB, Safety, WR, RB, many of which have off-season conditioning programs that exceed soccer's aerobic demands, could "keep up," then I don't know what to say.

And by keeping up, I mean they would finish an entire match without "dying." I'm not suggesting Odell Beckham could out-stamina Neymar.

i'm pretty sure all these athleticism arguments are irrelevant cause we don't know how good these elite american athletes are with their feet
we know they can run and we know they can endure but the hard part is getting the ball to go where you want it to go using your feet

>>78134502
Stop interrupting the discussion with your pointless comment, Texas.

>>78134477
Again it's not 7 miles over 90 min, it's 7 miles sprinting with more walked or jogged.

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>>78134437
>7 miles is not the average distance covered, it's the average distance run during a match.

It has to be distance covered as opposed to ran. Do the math. 7 miles/90 minutes= about 5 mph. Jogging speed is around 7-10 miles. Sprint speed >15mph.

If they only considered distance ran through jogs and sprints, you'd see averages of around 15 miles over a soccer match.

>>78134530
this whole discussion is pointless
i have 0 doubts that nfl/nba/nhl/wtf athletes could endure 90 mins of jogging and some sprinting but the question is if they would be good or just pacy fat guys with no end product that can't even cross the ball

>>78134566
>some sprinting but the question is if they would be good or just pacy fat guys with no end product that can't even cross the ball

Straight from their sport? Of course not. Don't soccer fans usually say it's a skill sport first and an athletic sport second?

I'm actually against the American opinion that all our best athletes would dominate soccer if we focused on it. Our best athletes tend to be taller than 6 feet at the very least across all the main sports leagues. Soccer is a low center of gravity sport that favors shorter people and shorter legs. The reason West African blacks are so fast (in addition to fast twitch) is because they have longer legs on average. And our best white athletes typically look more like Gronk than Donovan.

>>78134680
I somewhat agree, but the best Football player of all time measured 1,83 meters, so there is that

>>78134769

Aren't Maradona (5'4"), Pele (5'8"), Messi (5'6"), Cruyff (5'11") typically considered the top 4?

Are you referring to C. Ronaldo? Don't most non-fanboys find him extremely overrated?

>>78133452
lol this fat fuck would be faster than Ronaldo? Don't tell me you believe your own shit

>>78135181

300 pound NFL lineman run 4.6-4.8 forties all the time.

Ronaldo, in a LAB SETTING, ran 25m in 3.61 seconds. At that pace, his forty time rates out to 4.8-4.9 seconds.

Fat=/=slow. Lean=/=fast.

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>>78131795
I thought this image was Simpson's boobs at first.

>america
>not far and away the best basedball nation

now this is a spicy meme

Its a shame America doesn't like baseball anymore, I just watched the Ken Burns series and it seems like a really comfy sport.

What do you watch if you want to spend all Sunday getting drunk and watching sports?

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>sit and stand around all day
>baseball is considered a sport

Are Yankposters really so one-track minded that they can only enjoy NFL? Whats the deal with that. its the only thing you fat fuckers seem to enjoy? You're shitting on your national sport here guys, bad show.

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>>78135449
>Its a shame America doesn't like baseball anymore,

Total myth (and meme).

A lot of those "baseball is dying" articles will either use ESPN ratings of national games to make their case, citing the increased age of baseball's average viewer (most people watch their own teams on regional networks as opposed to watching ESPN's game of the week or whatever), World Series ratings (the World Series often faces NFL regular season games), and baseball's lack of a national star (where's baseball's Lebron!).

Baseball probably won't produce a national star like a Lebron, Curry, or Brady because fans are fans of their hometown players first and foremost. If you polled 100 NBA fans, 60 would name Lebron as their favorite player, 20 Curry, and the last 20 would be split among Westbrook, Durant, and randoms. Poll 100 MLB fans and 20 different players would probably get 5 votes each.

The sport is healthier than its ever been arguably. It just can't beat the NFL.

>>78135481
>Whats the deal with that. its the only thing you fat fuckers seem to enjoy?

It's the low supply of games coupled with fantasy football addictions and the way the NFL has positioned itself as a weekend "event." This means fans (and sports shows) have to get a lot talking about it done in a short time. Also, since there's so few games, every NFL game feels like a playoff game.

There's just not much material to "talk about" over any single baseball game out of 162. Baseball is also "bad" at generating off-field drama (flag protests, social feuds, LaVar Ball type characters) that can fill up Skip Bayless's or Screamin A. Smith's show.

But people watch and enjoy the sport. It outrates the NBA most of the time nationally and kills the NBA regionally.

>>78135511
>The sport is healthier than its ever been arguably. It just can't beat the NFL.
Does it hold a similar position to cricket in this country in that it is a sport without casual fans? Cricket isn't huge here like it is in Australia or India, but those who love it really love it, and it gets healthy and surviving attendances and viewership from the loyal autistic fanboys.

>>78135555
Why are there so many games

>>78135587

I would say baseball's fans tend to a bit more diehard since following a team through the travails of a 7 month long, 162 game season emotionally connects you the team a bit more compared to other leagues. Baseball fans also tend to follow their minor league affiliates to keep up on the development of their top prospects. But teams like the Cubs, Yankees, Dodgers, and Red Sox have a lot of casual fans.

>>78135511
people really don't show up to games in full force very often anymore, outside of the playoffs. which has always been a slight problem, because sometimes they have to play at 1 pm on a tuesday. but i go to games sometimes, and when i compare the crowds that i see to crowds i've seen on film from classic games, regular season games even, it just doesn't appear the same. i see lots of families, drunks (the annoying kind) and otherwise quiet people who just stare.

>>78135642
How do I get into baseball? Is there a regular highlights show? How do I decide a team?

I think I like the Red Sox because they have a nice history and because of the Liverpool connection.

>>78135656
>it just doesn't appear the same. i see lots of families, drunks (the annoying kind) and otherwise quiet people who just stare.
Same thing is happening in every sport desu, getting rid of drinking in stadiums just ruined it for the people who would drink casually and made it so the drunks have to sneak in their own booze.

>>78135618

I'm not sure. Since baseball is the country's oldest pro sport, it could be they decided to have so many games because it was the primary entertainment option in towns and cities in the 19th and early 20th century. More games=more profit.

Could be so that there's a large enough sample size to try and account for variance (I don't buy the luckswing idea, though. A great team can be great over 10 games or 162).

I'm okay with it. Makes roster building and farm systems more challenging and important.

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>>78135656
>when i compare the crowds that i see to crowds i've seen on film from classic games,

Those are probably selectively chosen big market team games. Check out baseball's attendance during its "golden age."

>>78132091
>>78132160
>>78132403
don't worry fellas, you don't have to choose - it is both boreball and luckswing

>>78130836
They're the best, but American players don't care about international play unless they're Italian.

>>78135669
>How do I get into baseball? Is there a regular highlights show? How do I decide a team?

If you appreciate cricket, baseball should be a relatively seamless transition (I don't think the sports are competitors to each other. They're kind of yin (cricket offensive) and yang (baseball defensive).

Tactics and strategy can be pretty dense. It's not an Xs and Os sport like goal sports and the tactics (like cricket) center around the "mind games" batter and pitcher engage in. A good starting point is to get familiar with player tendencies and then the batter/pitcher matchup will no just look like a couple of guys playing catch.

Check this site out.

http://www.fangraphs.com/

Type in a player and you can see his various strengths and weakness, how pitchers attack him, and so on.

A good site for highlights is MLB.com. They also have a cool feature called statcast that shows player sprint speed, batted ball exit velocity, and so on.

https://www.mlb.com/video/statcast-reddicks-eye-high-hr/c-1821572383?tid=240568594

>>78131537
>It still takes an incredible amount of luck to hit a 95+ mph ball as hard as a rock coming towards you

ftfy

>>78130836
>Not the best at baseball
Is it because niggas don't play it as much as we used to? The American Negro is by far the greatest specimen God has ever made. As we assimilate white genes into our already healthy stock expect us to grow stronger.

>>78130836
Except America won the WBC, Pablo

>>78135829
>Things a black man would never say

>>78135825

If that's true, why can you set a watch to an MLB player's production?

>country as big as a continent
>barely beating other countries in their national sports
>sucking dicks in all other sports
>being proud of this

>>78135829
>The American Negro is by far the greatest specimen God has ever made.
I wonder if someone thinks that seriously

We're the best at boxing, and the GOAT mma fighter is American

>>78135860
America's agenda since 1945 has been to assimilate Black people but our strong genes will win out the way they have in Brazil. The future will be half niggas like Stephen Curry and Lonzo Ball. With the best traits (culturally and biologically) of both races mixed together.

>>78135934
>>barely beating other countries in their national sports

The US men's basketball team is the most dominant entity in International team sports.

As for non-American sports.

- By far the most tennis Grand Slams all-time.
- By far the most Olympic medals of all-time.
- By far the most Boxing world champs of all-time.
- By far the most golf majors of all-time.

>>78135481
Only the South is like this. The rest of America tends to appreciate more than one or two sports.

>>78135894
why do some people win the lottery and some people don't?

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>>78135723
ftfy

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>>78135938

It's true. And the Flynn effect projects black and white IQs to relatively equal in a few decades, the last thing the white boys had over us brothers. Turns out, lower IQs are typically the product of malnutrition and stress in the womb rather than some voodoo genetic component (which has never been discovered. There is no "IQ gene").

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2004/11/041117005027.htm

And brothas and sistas here and in Africa faced dire malnutrition at the hands of you whiteys raping our land and people.

So in 30 years, blacks will be equal intellectually and superior athletically. What will white people have to offer at that point?

I guess we'll always need actors for cuck porn :^)

>>78135980
Where can I buy your upcoming fantasy novel?

>>78136015

Luck. But do they win the lottery year after year after year over a decade or more?

Luck would imply you have the same chances as an MLB player of hitting a homerun. You don't. Show me that 100mph bat speed.

>>78135980
Seriously, have you ever even heard a black person on tv or in a movie talk? It'll really help your trolling.

>>78130836
If America cared about soccer as much as football or basketball, would their players even bother to international matches?

>>78136141

My Afro-American heroes are Morgan Freeman, Thomas Sewell, and Nell De Grasse Tyson. You're confused hood culture with African American culture. Hood culture has only been prominent over the last couple of decades.

Why do you think older blacks like Freeman are so much more well spoken? Now, I lament the rise of hood culture, but that was obviously a whiteman invention to sell "danger" to bored suburban white children. Hood culture would've died out if white kids didn't buy all those rap records, since there would be no money in it.

>>78136212
>Hood culture would've died out if white kids didn't buy all those rap records, since there would be no money in it
This.

>>78136212
the origins of hip-hop are known and white people didn't have anything to do with it. aside from inventing the turntable which then enabled you to steal the chorus from classic songs and put them into your jungle vibe scratch.

>>78135227
You're seriously telling me than a 150 kg guy would outrun a top football player known for his pace? That's a joke right?

>>78136141
>"Everything that I know about Black people I've learned from TV"
Litteraly the cause of our country's racial tensions.

>>78136162
I still don't know why NBA (and even NHL) players go to the Olympics to play against comparatively amateur fuckers from Europe. If futbol takes off in America MLS would have 30ish "super clubs" as compared to about 1 or 2 in every European league.

>>78136212
Pretty much spot on.
hiphopisread .com/2012/04/secret-meeting-that-changed-rap-music.html
businessinsider .com.au/former-music-exec-describes-the-scary-meeting-that-resulted-in-todays-violent-rap-music-2012-5
raprehab .com/facts-about-hip-hop-and-prison-for-profit/

tl;dr
When prisons were privatised, their was an incentive to lock up as many people as possible, so the record companies invented gangsta rap.

>baseball
Dumbest (((sport))) ever

>>78135227
>comparing yards to metres
>not accounting for acceleration

Stay retarded America.

>>78136553

I always love when foreigners act self-righteous.

Here's how split times in the 40 yard typically go for sprinters in the NFL:

Athlete 1

10 yd - 1.59
10-20 - 1.06
20-40 -- 1.94
40 yd - 4.59

Athlete 2

10 yd - 1.70
10-20 - 1.05
20-40 -- 1.95
40 yd - 4.70

Let's give Ronaldo the 20 yard split time in the first example of 1.94 (.97 seconds per ten yard split). Adding that ten yard split to his 25m (27 yard) time of 3.61 seconds, we get 4.58 seconds. And there's still 3 yards to go. 3 yards is 30% of 10 yards, .97 x .30 = .291 seconds. 4.58 + .291 = 4.871 seconds.

Give Ronaldo Usain Bolt's fastest 10m split time and his 40 time would be projected to 4.6. Ronaldo ain't accelerating like Bolt in this universe.

He's not that fast. I don't care how shredded he looks.

>>78136315
>the origins of hip-hop

There was no ghetto hood gangsta culture associated with early hip-hop. It was about block parties, having fun, and dancing.

LA record companies invented gangsta rap and by extension hood culture.

>>78136410

Over 40 yards, the more athletic NFL lineman certainly can.

"Fast" is obviously relative. Over 100m, NFL lineman would peter out. But the fastest DBs, WRs, RBs would obliterate Ronaldo over 100m.

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>>78134804
He's refering to the true GOAT which is Ronaldo Nazario. You're not wrong, dribbling favours lower center of gravity bit it's nothing that can't be overcome. Zlatan is 6'5 and is an amazingly skilled player.
The beauty of football is precisely its non formulaic nature.

>>78136873
>Zlatan is 6'5 and is an amazingly skilled player.

There's always exceptions. Like the NBA's Isaiah Thomas who is 5'7" (he's listed at 5'9", but the NBA always adds inches), or the MLB's Jose Altuve (5'5" and a power hitter) but I think shorter players have the advantage in a vacuum in general.

>>78136665
>all this autism
Someone already did the work for you
https://xcountrytrackathlete.wordpress.com/2015/09/04/how-fast-could-cristiano-ronaldo-run-the-nfl-40-yard-dash/
>If Cristiano wasn’t running from the 3 point stance or the blocks, he would probably run between 4.60-4.65 seconds which would place him over 1/2 a second faster than the average footballer at the Nike Football SPARQ Camp

>>78136988

I'm aware of that article, and they "if and but" throughout to give Ronaldo a few fractions of a second. Even so (his time by not making excuses for him about starting from a 3 point stance),

>It’s a safe estimate to say Cristiano could run the 40 yard dash between 4.64-4.70 seconds,

That's with giving him the extra .10 of a second. 250lb linebackers run those times consistently and some fatass lineman can log those times.

I'm not saying he isn't fast. Anything below 5.0 is actually fuckin' fast. Just that he's underwhelming speed wise compared to athletes in other sports and the hype he gets concerning his athleticism seems to have more to do with his physique than actual performance.. They also tested his vertical in that To The Limit show. He posted a pretty bad 17" no step and a 29" running vert.

>>78136800
>nonsense
You look pretty tired. Go to bed, you're embarrassing yourself.

>>78137251

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i6IEnIV6EzA

That beats Ronaldo's projected from that 25m dash.

If you want to argue over 100m, fair enough. Ronaldo would win since a big guy like that would tire.

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>>78137302
>still trying to prove a 150 kg guy could outrun a 75 kg football forward
Stop. That's ridiculous.

>>78137302
>>78137134
why are you comparing a guy who is selected and trained specifically for his explosive speed in a short burts, versus a guy who is selected for his ability with his feet and spacial awareness and trains for a combination of endurance, speed and agility?
Are you retarded?

>>78137329

>Still neglecting hard data
>Still trying to paint Ronaldo as some kind of super athlete

Over 40 yards, yes, as proven by said hard data.

Lmao both football and soccer are fucking gay only girls play non-combat sports

>>78137338

No one is "comparing" anything, you dipshit wop. Frenchy didn't believe a "fat guy" could be as fast as Ronaldo over any length. I proved that wrong.

>>78137381
the frenchy wasn't the first one to compare the fat guy to ronaldo. That was a burger.
I repeat, are you retarded?

>>78137402

No, are you retarded? A poster tried to make a claim by posting the Prince Fielder picture to imply that a fat guy can't be an athlete. Another poster replied that a guy who can run about as fast as "soccer's greatest athlete" over 40 yards is probably pretty athletic. Then Frenchy chimed in with his disbelief that fat guys can't be faster than Ronaldo over any distance.

That claim is obviously false. It's like you people don't watch any other sports aside from Divegrass. Forget American sports. There's plenty of fat ass rugby players who can motor.

Main point: Fat=/unathletic.

>>78137494
There have been and is plenty of faster players than Ronaldo. Also been fat is unathletic, yes i known how fatsos can do a quick dash with great acceleration over a very short distance. They are not athletic, thier recovery time for that run is much longer than a healthy person. And fatso cannot keep doing that 40 run at a repeated pace wich is what an athletic sport should have.

>>78137494
t. Fatarse

>>78130836
But we are the reigning WBC champions so we literally are the best in baseball right now. Faggot.

>>78130836
"caring" means roiding so they might have a point.

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>>78137904
>Also been fat is unathletic,

Well of course "it is" since your favorite sport is soccer. I could easily make the argument that a sport where a twink build like Neymar's can succeed is also not an "athletic sport."

Throw that height and build into any other non-weight class sport (aside from stamina contests like marathons and cycling), and he fails. Neymar would also become exhausted playing the o-line much faster than a fatass because his lack of muscle mass would mean he would have to "work harder" dealing with the upper body strength requirements than a big lineman.

Endurance manifests itself in more ways than just jogging around. Also, if fat is unathletic, then what are all those 300 pounders doing in rugby (which is also a good test of stamina)?

What was Foreman doing winning the world title with a beer gut?

>>78136455
> If futbol takes off in America MLS would have 30ish "super clubs" as compared to about 1 or 2 in every European league

US sports' insistence on salary caps probably gets in the way of this

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>>78138051

It's just cultural differences. European sports fans and the soccer heavy South American countries typically enjoy and appreciate more feminine male body types, so their main sport reflects that interest.

Americans have always preferred size, explosiveness, and power. Like in high school. Cross Country running was typically a sport for girls and nerds. Same with tennis and even soccer. Those were "skinny" people (and by skinny, I don't mean lean. I mean looking anorexic). An American athlete wouldn't be caught dead looking like this while this build is prized in Europe and SA.

>>78131537
yeah its called cricket

>being fat is athletic

America everybody.

Sorry lads, baseball is not a sport.

Thank you.