Uh-oh trouble in paradise

>>78123322
>"Welp, let's pack it up goys, we're not making any more shekels out of these losers."

>>78123322
Are all openers always on thursday nights? Also I wonder if Harvey and Irma don't have anything to do with less people in those regions watching tv.

>>78123347
>Are all openers always on thursday nights?
for the last 5 or so years, yes

didnt even realize it was on desu, was doing homework

not that my ota antenna would have counted towards ratings anyway

>staying up to watch the chiefs play a team I hate on a weekday on a channel I probably don't get
The entire country's thought process

Does someone have the numbers?

Expectations were low af, "Pats wins lol"

are they going to try to make anthem kneelers the scapegoat again?

what sport has the lowest IQ for its viewers?

american football has to be atleast bottom 3 with basketball and something else

top IQ is probably womens volleyball

I do think it's a good combination of things
>Thursday
>Big Storms heading to populated areas
>people aren't as dumb anymore. Streaming is fucking simple now.

>>78123322
For the sake of the game of football, this league needs to DIE

>>78123380
> he doesn't have channel 5

>>78123367
I think only neilsen houses count for ratings

>>78123406

Baseball fans have the top IQ. Doesn't hurt the players are extremely intelligent.

>>78123380
>channel i dont get
Wew
>>78123406
Soccer by a mile. All those 3rd worlders wrecking your curve

>>78123406
In America?
Probably Nascar or Wresslin'

>>78123510

baseball fans consists of japan and a horde of south americans so I dont think so lad.

>>78123322
OH NO. GIVE KAEPERNICK A TEAM, QUICK! PAY HIM WHATEVER HE WANTS!

>>78123322
>since 2009
Oh wow what a historic milestone it's almost as if market penetration is roughly the same as the quaint old days a lifetime ago of 2009

>>78123619
I could easily see BeliCheat doing this.

>>78123510
Ummmm no sweetie. Watching paint dry is what the brain damaged do in assisted living homes.

>>78123322
HAHAHAHHA NFL BTFO

>>78123386
42-27 Chief iirc.

>>78123406
>Boring = thinking mans sport

American football is likely in the top IQ. There are so many rules and small nuances of the rules along with all the complex formations on all 3 sets of teams (Offense,defense,special teams) to really know what you're watching/following. Football was mostly a mans sport before they nerfed it an made it family friendly.

Soccer is probably at the bottom, all it is, is kicking a ball back and forth on a over sized field.

>>78123322
The Super Bowl is the only game that matters so why would I waste my time watching the "regular season" (i.e. a playoff seeding tournament). NFL should switch to a round robin tournament format and get rid of the playoffs entirely.

>>78123322
as long as the superbowl keeps increasing theyll be fine

>>78123703
Oh wait, did you mean ratings?
>According to Nielsen data, the Patriots-Chiefs game averaged a 14.6 rating in metered market households. That is down approximately 12% from the 2016 game, which drew a 16.5 rating. This is also the second year in a row the opening game has been down, with 2016 slipping from the 17.7 rating drawn in 2015. The drop comes as ratings for NFL football were down last season to the tune of 8% per game on average.
>http://variety.com/2017/tv/news/nfl-kickoff-game-2017-ratings-1202551703/

>>78123715
>NFL should switch to a round robin tournament format and get rid of the playoffs entirely.
God you must be the biggest faggot.

>>78123510
Baseball is dull as fuck. Sure there are plenty of stats but they mean nothing to the fans or players, just the head office. Literally the only thought from players and casual fans is throw ball catch ball hit ball. Players barely even interact. It's a simpletons game desu

>>78123751
Nice argument, friend. Next time I'd ask you to please moderate your language, however.

>>78123714
The beautiful thing about football is its both complex but still enjoyable to watch for the casual fans because of how quick and physical the sport is. Unlike baseball were you sit there watching nothing for most of the game

>>78123714
>thinking rules equate to intelligence.

American football consists of giving each other brain damage over and over again. Playing it literally makes you objectively stupider.

>fans wasting hundreds of dollar on tickets or 4 hours on a game to watch 15 minutes of actual game play.
>Highest IQ.

Try again Billy.

>>78123787
Hard to believe its a sport, really. I mean that.

>>78123808
>how quick the sport is
>game has 15 minutes if actual active play time
>Takes 4 hours per game.

Sure. Whatever mate.

Gonna be even worse since the Chiefs have 6 prime time games this season

>>78123406

soccer just from all the retarded third worlders watching it

>>78123808
>quick

my fookin sides

>>78123874
It really is. It's no wonder that baseball's average viewer age is well above 50.

>>78123874
It is a relic... of a simpler time. A slower-paced time. When watching people leisurely swing a bat, hit a ball, and catch a ball counted as entertainment.

>>78123736
12% is pretty bad tbqh

>>78123929
Brb going to play kick the can.

>>78123510
Baseball is my favorite sport, but don't kid yourself. The players are dumb as bricks since most only have a high school education

>>78123947
Brb going to go roll a wheel down the street.

captcha: summerset fields

>>78123957
that's pretty much every sport

>>78123406
>>78123905
undeniably this

>>78123849
>Danger to players some how effects me or the impressiveness/complexity of the game

Nice straw man

Only 2% of the Worlds population could make an NFL team. Making it to the NFL alone is more impressive than winning most other sports championships. Any average to good athlete could potentially make a MLB or soccer team

>>78123957
>he is still falling for the higher education meme
IQ is genetic, there is no amount of schooling you can receive that will change your intelligence.

>>78123808
>Nothing happens in baseball
>But football is nonstop action trust me guys

The amount of commercials made NFL fucking unwatchable for me over the years, I haven't watched the opener and I don't even regret it. College football is far more enjoyable to watch now despite featuring inferior athletes.

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Baseball isn't going anywhere anytime soon. Neither is NFL for that matter.

>>78123911
Quick in terms of scoring/drives but not excessive like basketball or drawn out to the point of being bored to death like baseball or soccer

>>78123322
>kids are not playing football as much anymore because its a dangerous game
>the nfl isn't as fun to watch anymore because of rule changes and no fun league
what did they think would happen

>>78123992
What you just did there--that's called a non-sequitor. How large the athletes are has nothing to do with the skill involved in the game.

>>78124002
I can only watch NFL when my team is playing, and even then it is a chore these days. The inconsistencies of the rules and how they are applied by the shitty refs is a major annoyance, along with rampant advertising.

>>78123406
>what sport has the lowest IQ for its viewers?
In America its nba. Worldwide its soccer

>>78123992
Oh NFL players are no doubt some of the best athletes, but being a good athlete doesn't make you smart at all. The sport actually makes you stupid. Playing it at any level will make you stupider because of the nature of the sport. Most NFL fans played in high school or college or in a local rec league. If you've played it, you likely lost brain cells from it.

No doubt they're incredible athletes though.

>>78124002
They say they're cutting down this year

>>78124052
Quick in ter-
>anon has called a time out. And now a word from our sponsors
ms of scoring/
>end of the first quarter, we'll be back after this break
drives but not excessive like basketb
>looks like he just pulled a hammy out there. let's take an injury time out and we'll be back with more action!

>>78124124
>buying (((media))) propaganda

>>78123997
But pursuit of education does directly correlate with intelligence. Extremely smart people do not call it good after a high school diploma.

>>78124153
Even if this theoretical smart person can make millions and gain incredible fame just by playing a low-risk game? I don't buy it.

>>78124124
It depends on the position. Most QBs and centers are really smart but shit like nose tackles and fullbacks are basically retard tier.

>>78124089
It's actually almost certainly not soccer. Soccer is the most popular sport in the world and as such likely has the biggest deviation of IQ's, and as such falls right around the international average for IQ's, meaning normal intelligence. American Football on the other hand is comprised mostly of people who have played it in the past. Seeing how playing American football is associated with brain damage and loss of brain cells, it is likely the lowest average IQ

>>78124151
Read any of the scientific studies on the matter. It isn't media bias if the stats aren't lying.

>>78124225
soccer is for poorfags and they also have serious brain issues from heading the ball

>>78124089
NFL fans must have the most brain damage per capita of any sport in the world. If you doubt me, just talk to one.

>>78124240
are these the same "scientists" who told me that Manhattan would fall into the ocean by 2015?

>>78124168
The number of highly intelligent people who do that is bound to be absolutely miniscule especially compared to the ultra smart people who decided to pursue higher education in any number of other things and make themselves filthy rich that way instead. The likelihood of going pro is also staggeringly low and as such no truly smart person would risk that over pursuing education if their end goal was making money.

>>78124272
people who talk about Nostradamus on history channel aren't scientists

>>78124219
Even QB's get knocked around though. You're definitely right though. QB's definitely have to be the smartest people on the field.

>>78123938
To be fair, it was a mediocre matchup. Not because they suck, but because they should have had a Falcons v Patriots rematch. Seemed like a waste of an opener.

>>78124272
>Do neurologists study climate science?
hmmm nah I don't think so man

>>78124313
Centers too.

>>78124249
Just saying its a poor mans sport doesn't make my statement any less true. Its still the most popular sport in the world and thus the most likely to have an average distribution of intelligence.

>>78124330
also you need one guy on defense usually a MLB or Safety

>>78124272
Of course not you fucking knob. Neuroscientists don't study climate. Jesus you fucking anti-science Neanderthals are blisteringly retarded.

>>78123322
Were they worried about the numbers in 2009?

If not, don't worry.

>>78124341
that's not how it works

>>78123929
No doubt about that. Should it be preserved as a living relic? A living link to our past?
>>78123925
I had no idea. A lot of young people play fantasy baseball so...

>>78124384
Probably best suited for museums at this point. Kids will one day look at the weird uniforms, hear about the strange traditions, and ask, "Why did people do all that, Dad?" "Well, son, nobody really knows anymore. All the people that played or enjoyed it passed away a long, long time ago."

>>78124294
>using so many adjectives to enhance your point
It's simple: IQ is a heritable trait, not an environmental one. Higher education cannot affect IQ.
What you're really arguing is that high IQ is a predictor of success in education. That is obvious. What isn't obvious is if IQ has a role in an athletes choice between education and a sports career.
There's never been a study done of this so there is no point in you continuing to argue it.

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>>78124132
I watched the later half of the game. It felt like it had less commercials.

>>78124272
Does it really take a large scientific study to determine that smashing your skull into people for 20 years can lead to brain damage?

being smart in football is still not all that impressive, it is only impressive for dumbasses who had to do sports because normal human learning was too difficult.

>>78124225

soccer has to take Africa (the dumbest continent by far). That alone would drag them straight to the bottom as the other sports do not have to include Africa in their calculation.

>you will witness the last ever football game in your lifetime

>>78124442
should make your brain stronger imo

>>78124471
I hope it is da bears winning da superb owl

>>78124471
it will become flag football first

>>78123322
>paying for tv
>when you can stream in HD
>for free

Only a truly good goy is paying for cable in the [current year]

ESPN is doing a good job of killing the NFL with its nonstop Kaepernick bullshit and MUH NATIONAL ANTHEM PROTESTS.

>>78124508
>streaming in HD when every major ISP is about to introduce data caps or has already

>>78123406
>NASCAR not the lowest iq
Ha.

>>78124521

ESPN has done a fine job killing themselves the past 5-6 years

>>78124414
lol..

>>78124521
>he still thinks the anthem protesting is hurting the ratings and definitely is not anything else

>>78123892
Cool meme

>>78124549
The anthem protest is hurting ratings. So is streaming

I don't even know why people try to go by TV ratings anymore when we all know a growing amount of the population don't have Neilson boxes to begin with, and that they are also moving on to online streaming and dropping cable.

Like when everyone shit a brick over superbowl TV ratings it's like everyone forgot about the NFL streaming apps that have been shoved down our throats for the last few years that obviously don't go towards ratings counts.

>>78124071
Football is the most skill intensive sport in the world. Basketball players can potentially olay any position. Soccer players too. Football you have to train your whole life to be good at one position. Size doesnt matter and genetics can be overcome

>>78124935
>I don't even know why
Dying media companies operated by dinosaurs who still can't grasp the internet are holding onto dead measuring techniques, this isn't hard to understand.

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>>78123406
>top IQ
chess

>>78124341
Based on your argument i can see where you fall on that scale
>6 billion uneducated goat farmes
>few million above average people
>must be a high average

>>78123322
>Uh-oh trouble in paradise
>Niggers kneeling for national anthem
Affects entire league

>>78123322
The NFL wasn't holding openers on Thursdays in 2009. Of course Sunday games will get more viewers than Thursday games. SI is fake news.

>>78124521
If the anthem protests were actually hurting ratings, we probably wouldn't have real time butthurt tweets and #1 trending topics every single fucking time someone takes a knee or sits. Rather, it seems like more people are tuning in and following what's going on in the league just so they can complain about it. I've never seen this much talk about the league before desu.

What's actually hurting TV views is streaming, but streaming as most people do it (through the app, or by watching RedZone) isn't even hurting the league. They're likely getting their pockets lined directly from paying viewers instead of having the cable networks play the middle man.

I wasn't even aware the season started again. Why aren't amerilards spamming the board as usual?

>>78123380
>thinking the entire country is in the same timezone

>>78123360
>five years

No.

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>>78125084

>sitting at a table
>moving fingers
>sport

lemme guess...esports are a real sport too?

>>78125120
Do these legal apps have ads?

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>>78123406
Basically this, with the left being lowest IQ of course.

>>78125192
No way golf is more republican than nascar. Disregarded

>>78123416
Channel 5 is ABC

>>78125174
keep watching football then, low-achiever!

>>78125185
Yeah but I mean what else are they going to show during timeouts and halftime?

>>78124993
>Americans actually believe this

>>78125236
Everyone believes this mate

>>78125209
There are plenty of poor rednecks who vote Democrat because they need dey welfare. Rich white men are overwhelmingly conservative though.

t. Alabaman

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>>78124294

What point were you even getting at? There are no truly smart MLB players? You missed your opportunity there. Think about how you want to form your arguments next time.


>>78124427

Good job to you for sticking to your point and not getting sidetracked. However, if we believe IQ is genetic then I'm not prepared to just agree that a league with an over abundance of Latinos who never finished high school are extremely intelligent as a whole. And yes, while college may not have an effect on IQ (I'm in the camp of thinking it doesn't either), there is an implication of never receiving a good education during your younger years which a lot of immigrant players haven't. IQ is deterministic but you still need education growing up to reach your theoretical max capacity. Otherwise the studies of kids who were abandoned in the woods when they were young would come out geniuses after time to reintegrate instead of continuing to be bumbling retards.

Good. NFL is shit.

>>78125260
>Soccer players can play an position
>Football is more skill intensive and takes more training than tennis, swimming, hockey, boxing, golf, etc.

Football is the sport most dependent on physicality, it doesn't take much skill.

>>78125192
>>78123406
A saw a brit say on here, that if your sport involved stealing of any kind, it was for plebs.

I'm inclined to agree, Golf, Volleyball, Tennis confirmed for high IQ high class, non trash sports.

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No Fun League

btw no sane parent would allow its child to play concussion ball.

>>78125192
>golf and hockey most intelligent
>basketball and WWE least

Probably pretty accurate desu

>>78125335
Thats blatantly wrong. Being a qb or a corner or even a tackle is invredibly technical

B-b-but I thought the lower ratings were because of the election and Trump?

What's killing the NFL? Are they doing it to themselves? Or are more and more people just losing interest in sports all together?

>>78125399
Streaming

>>78125379
True, being a QB takes a lot of skill but almost none of the other positions do. Only basketball and volleyball require less training and skill in general than football. Hockey is the team sport that requires the most skill and training.

>>78125399
Cord cutting, the death of E!SPN, pussy rules, and I think a lot of people are tired of the Patriots. College ball ratings aren't down as far as I know, so people aren't losing interest in football.

>>78125399
Too commercialized. They're fixing this by fitting 5 six-second commercials into a 30-second slot.

I wish I was joking. We are literally going to have commercials between plays before too long.

>>78125435
>Hockey is the team sport that requires the most skill and training.

Lol

>>78125192
>college football
>yuro footy
switch these

>>78123322
People dont care about more commercials, or the kneeling negros, or new rules and refs.
Ratings are down because they have football on 4 days instead of two and you need 2 cable subscriptions and the internet to watch any game you want.

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>>78125192
>Monster Trucks
>Slight dem skew

lol wut

>>78125689
They were literally playing a commercial of the new microsoft tablet with an instant replay challenge being shown at the same. They even showed the ref looking at the fucking tablet in a tiny booth. It was comical

legit question:
Aren't you Americans fed up with the constant commercials in NFL?

>>78126324
yes, very

>>78126324
Yes, I stopped watching that game last night when they had an official review, mentioned it was sponsored by some microsoft product, and then showed a commercial for it on half the screen while the game was on the other half of the screen.

>>78126324
So just watch red zone

>>78123322
Do those ratings take streamers into account?

>leddit saying people arent watching because some people are sitting during your shit national anthem

its a fucking song lmao, are people actually unironically butthurt about other people sitting down?

fucks sake guys

>>78123406
Pro wrestling isn't really a sport, but they are by far the lowest rung on the ladder. Advertisers consider wrestling fans to be even below Nascar fans, who are considered to be the bottom tier of actual sports viewers. So Nascar fans are probably the most low IQ, at least in the US.
World wide, probably soccer. Every starving 3rd world peasant in the world is a fan of soccer, and there are clear causal links between malnutrition and low IQ.

>>78123736
And last year was a rematch of Denver vs Carolina, a much better pull game.

>>78123902
spotted the raiders fan

>all these "soccer fans are poor and stupid" posts
Do you realize nearly all football kits have super expensive brands as sponsors? Like super expensive air companies?

>>78125736
Cletus and Jamal are still higher IQ than the millions of Africans that follow divegrass

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>>78126823
OBSESSED

>>78125567
this, but mostly everyone is sick and tired watching the Cheatriots down their throats

MLB is #1 again. Feels good man

>>78126905
You realize the average IQ of west Africa is in the 60s, right? A few oil barons and bunch of chavs don't make up for that.

>>78123790
Not him, but you do seem like you are just as big, if not bigger, than the second biggest faggot.

>>78124414
Baseball ratings are fine. Attendance is better than ever.

Football is struggling.

>>78124935
>when we all know a growing amount of the population don't have Neilson boxes to begin with
This has always been the case, dummy. It like a political poll when they as 1,000 people about a candidate. They're not asking all 100 million voters.

>>78127975
>everythingisfire.jpg

>>78127984
No shit sherlock. The point is that the estimates are even further off because there's going to be a smaller pool of people watching TV that can be given Nielson boxes to begin with. The point is that trends among growing Internet viewers cannot be accurately captured when using a subset of likely older and less informed TV viewers, not that a few people are actually on Nielson boxes to begin with.

>>78123510
as far as GMs go baseball is tops. so much so that the browns adopted the moneyball/analytics method when they hired theirs

>>78128524
Yeah so good a franchise that has been garbage since rebirth is trying it as a last resort so they have something else to blame when everything goes to shit again

>opening night
>pats getting their way and refs helping out
>half time comes
>numbers are in for the first time
>the eternal jew is pissed
>they tell the refs to stop helping
>brady gets exposed and the chefs win
>from now on the cheatriots will go 0-16

>>78123322
>last time ratings were this low a Hurricane had devastated part of the country
>2 Hurricanes currently devastating parts of the country and people are surprised ratings are down again

Willful ignorance is no excuse.