The New Age Has Started

>le go missing in big games lad

>>78014571
>le never make it to big games country

>>78014578
>le never win anything since the 21st century country

>>78014558
>Mbappe

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This new era will be known for only one player, friend.

>>78014558
>Draxler

I'm still not seeing it

>>78015259
*chokes to costa rica*

Imagine unironically believing any of those players will even touch Suarez, Robben, Iniesta, etc. let alone Messi and Ronaldo.

>>78015266
*cares about qualifiers*

>>78014558
P U L I S I C
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>>78015296
"doesn't care about qualifying for the most important sports event in the world"

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the year in which nerman shits the bed

It is always around these years of a decade when young, aspiring players come out to become truly elite and dominate what's left of the decade and the first half of the upcoming

>Van Basten, Maldini become are already best young players by 1987/88
>Ronaldo
>by 1997/98 he was called to be a superstar
>Zizou, Sheva, Bergkamp were other promising youngsters at the time, who went on to become elite
>Cristiano was already a star in 2007, but he became world class with his glorious 07/08 season
>Messi became a starter that season as well and never looked back
>2017/18
>Isco, Asensio, Dybala, Mbappe, etc
>

>>78015407
good pattern spotted

>>78015338
>w-we win q-qualifier games while big strong USA wins the tournament games

>>78015407
>Isco
He's not young, he's 25. He's Griezmann 2.0 - will have one or two world class seasons at his peak before he sputters and does nothing else
>Asensio
He has more potential already than Tsu - I'd argue he's already better than Tsu in everything but statpadding
>Dybala
Like Isco, he's around his early to mid 20s and although he's great for Juventus, he hasn't really shown he's truly world class other than the one odd game or two. Riquelmeme 2.0
>Mbappe
The new Ronaldo/Henry and pretty much the next GOAT in the making.

Honorable mentions: Dembele, Lemar, Pulisic

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>>78015296
It's not like the qualifiers decide if they qualify or not, am I right? Honduras is going to cuck you again, tbqh

>>78015338
>tfw you'll never live in Costa Rica
I have a sympathy for your flag since you cuck'd England.

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>>78015453
>Pulisic

>>78015453
>not mentioning Alli.

>>78015279
>Suarez, Robben
Meme players

>Iniesta
Truly underrated

>>78015517
>mentioning Alli

>>78015566
I might, MIGHT give you Robben, except for the fact that Robben took Netherlands to a WC final once and WC semis twice, and has a pretty solid history at Bayern. I can't honestly give you Suarez, though. He's probably the best striker of this era.

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>>78015573
>best striker of this era
*ahem*

>>78015453
>amerifats

>>78015595
>le golden generation meme

this thread works as a reminder to not reply to certain flag when discussing football

>>78015453
>He's Griezmann 2.0
Literally MVP of 3 CL finals and carried a second-tier Málaga team to almost semifinals so basically top-5 MVP of CL 2013

He's already Zidane-tier by achievement, and only 25, and did it from a relegated position in the squad. Now he's basically the star of the team with Ronaldo past his peak and also hitting prime midfielder age range (26-30)

>>78014558
Cringe

>>78015453
9-0 bitch

>>78015407
Dubious. I don't even know how you can put Sheva and Bergkamp in the same "youngsters" category.

Sheva was 22 in 1998, playing for Dynamo Kiev, and had just one decent season under his belt.

Bergkamp was 29 in 1998, playing for Arsenal, and was already a Ballon d'or runner-up in 1993.

>>78014558
Asensio is leagues better than those other names you mentioned and will surpass both Messi and Ronaldo.

What a shit age. At least Messi had his autism as gimmick, and we could laugh at Ronaldo for being obsessed with being perfect/the best.

>>78015692
ah fuck i meant henry
i was thinking of arsenal and got mixed up
plus im a bit drunk and thinking of a gril im in love with biut will never accept my love

These players are on the same level as Tevez, Sneijder etc, 10 years ago

>>78015493
If he has a season similar to Dembele in the Bundesliga and champions league this season, he will definitely be a world class talent.

>>78015705
It's because there is no marketed rivalry yet. Cristiano and Messi did not look that charismatic in 2005 (especially not Messi).

>>78015709
Fair enough. Everything will be okay lad.

>>78015762
Messi was being marketed as the next Maradonna by 2006 and Ronaldo was widely considered to be the best winger of the premier league by 2007. They weren't even marketed as a rivalry until Ronaldo moved to Real in 2009 but everyone and their mother knew those two were special and above every other player before that.

>>78015279
>iniesta
>robben
>suarez
Past it.

>>78015781
>everyone and their mother knew those two were special and above every other player before that
"Everyone" now knows the likes of Mbappe and Asensio are special. They'll have to reconfirm it with their careers like other geniuses have done before of course but the spotlights are already there

Jesus you guys need to stick to football manager

>>78015825
To be considered special you have to style against the world's best, not Dortmund and Man City

>>78015746
I can think of ten players from his age group that are infinitely more talented.

He's just the next Freddy Adu but he'll get the hype because Nike are desperate for >muh soccer to keep going. The MLS is flying at the moment but the only players making a real impact in the league are Europeans that flattered to deceive in their home leagues, e.g. Sebastian Giovinco

>>78015781
>above every other player before that
You mean like in that 2006 World Cup, where the young Messi and the young C. Ronaldo did outshine the old and boring Zidane? With their only goal against Serbia and Iran?

>>78015781
About 20 dudes had been marketed as the next Maradonna. Ronaldo was the best winger around by 2007, but it wasn't for a year or two that he was a real contender for best in the world. What's crazy about those two in comparison to Zlatan, Robben, Sneijder, Tevez, Ribery even goddamn Robinho or Cassano isn't the level they started at (Ronaldo widely rated lower than Rooney at first) but the unending improvements they made in their mid twenties. Nobody would have expected that sort of goalscoring from either of them. You can see things like weaker foot technique, Ronaldo's headers, Messi's freekicks etc. coming into play way after other dudes had finished growing.

>>78015838
Dortmund is a top 10 club in Europe though. I agree on Shitty.

>>78015882
Dortmund has gotten worse every year since Kloppmeister left

>>78015842
I can taste the seethe from my computer.

>>78015842
>I can think of ten players from his age group that are infinitely more talented.
Name these 18 year old kids right now.

>>78015854
by summer 2008 there was no doubt ronaldo was the best in the world. then when messi scored a header in the CL final vs prime van der saar, vidic and ferdinand, there was no doubt he was the best.
then cr7 came back remarkably instead of surrendering to messi like everybody else and regained the title for best player nearly a decade later

>>78015854
>About 20 dudes had been marketed as the next Maradonna

Kek, in France we had 6 or 7 new Zidanes (from Camel Meriem to Ben Arfa) and at least 25 new Henrys, the last one before Mbappé being Martial (google "Martial new Henry" for a chuckle).

Mbappé is not the "new Henry" though, he's his own thing and just a better player, I think.

>>78015948
Mbappe is similar to Henry, although Henry dribbled differently

Yet to see his heading ability, there's parts of his game that remind me of young Anelka too

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Asensio is the new GOAT

>>78015968
Wow a breakaway goal

Mane tier

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Why is nobody talking about this guy? He seriously is the best 9 in the world right now and i don't see any rumors about a big move to the EPL or La Liga, are they too afraid that Icardi is gonna steal their wifes?

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dybala is overrated

>>78015957
I see the similarity, obviously, but I think the differences will become clearer when Mbappé matures and gets more exposure.

>>78015968
>Ter Shitgen
>that defending

Imagine forgetting about Rashgoat. I'm telling you once he learns how to finish like a world class striker he will be incredible.

>>78015996
that pic is just like something i would dream
i have all kinds of fucked up dreams that i enjoy nonetheless. I also remember them all.

>>78015996
Reminds me of dark souls. I just got the urge to want to cut them down with a zweihander.

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>>78015981

>>78016025
>Penaldo's faggotass refusing to celebrate because he didn't get another tap in
Insufferable.

>>78016025
>Another break away goal

Must be so to score against 2 defenders that are running backwards

Might take notice when he scores a goal of this quality

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=11JPa0lkYOY

>>78015453
I'm not buying the hype around Mbappe. yeah he might be something like Robbin or Henry who the fuck knows he's 18. but the "le next GOAT" meme is unjustified

>>78016002
Reminds me of Shearer a little bit, he's quite heavy set, yet skates past defenders with no problem, and generates a lot of power with very little backlift

>>78016043
>le monkey sprint better than dribbling past 3 defenders and scoring from range
Kys britdumb.

>>78016060
>Pulisic is GOAT

Opinion discarded then

>>78016043
He outplayed a defense of Hummels, Boateng and Neuer. Also, despite having Ronaldo making a good run next to him, he has the confidence to ignore him and fuck up that defense alone in a CL knockout game at 20.

Liverpool should have sold Coutinho for 200 mil.He is not worth the amount.Liverpool have enough in the attack to last till January,where they could have bought a replacement for him.

>>78016065
>B-but p-pulisic
Jesus christ, you britsharias are so obsessed it's fucking hilarious. Didn't even mention him at all either kek.

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>>78015259
>Zero [0] senior international goals before his 17th birthday
My fonz when

>>78016045
nah it's justified, he's lready at a level most plyers never reach
sure, he may flop due to bad attitude, injuries or whatever, but the raw potential he and Asensio have is amazing

>>78014558
>Draxler

>>78016098
>nah it's justified, he's lready at a level most plyers never reach

what does that even mean? what level is that? I don't see much skill to him

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>>78016035
Asensio will get a starting position fairly quickly or he'll leave (Barcelona already said they're willing to pay his release clause with a generous contract) - and it should logically be striker since Benzema and Bale fucking suck and RM's midfield is the best possible midfield any team could ask for.

Ronaldo can pout as much as he wants and slide Asensio with less game time in place of fucking Benzema but the writing's on the wall.

Asensio is the rising young star and the future for RM.

>>78016122
>I don't see much skill to him
really? you should look harder then
he's THE complete striker: fast, good at dribbling, agile, great timing, great positioning and most importantly he's a finisher
whenever he's in front of goal his blood freezes, he has a level of calm and confidence i've never seen in a 18 year old

>>78016176
>Barcelona already said they're willing to pay his release clause with a generous contract
I thought Perez upped his release clause to like half a billion like he did with every starting player?

>>78015453
I actually agree with almost everything apart from Isco. His position does not allow him to be compared to anyonee in this list. He plays Winger in need, not his physical position.
As for Asensio, If he works out and makes the body of Ronaldo he ll surpass him. Ronaldo's physical will allow him to play top level until he is at least 34-35.
Weather he decides to do that or not (based on the team he ends up/he stays at Real till then) is another story.

era of Liverpool la

>>78015948
Same here. Every year, Media sell new Messis, Iniestas or Ronaldos coming from young football base or after had made a good season in a small club

>>78015904
More like by 2007 there was no doubt Messi was the best player in the world and by 2011 there was little doubt he was top2 all time. Ronaldo was good competition

>>78015985
>King Cuck

Draxler has worse stats in Ligue 1 than Depay

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this guy right here

>>78017081
Lemar is better

>>78016207
I really want to think that he is that good.
what really good game did he have were he truly shined? I want to watch it full

>>78017411
I don't think he's had a full game performance yet - most 18 year olds don't. But in his discontinuous form, every stretch where he's on he tyranized the field. Even against Juventus where he had like 3 chances and 3 dribbles leading to chances in 15 minutes or against England IIRC where he and Dembele were fucking up kids throughout the game

>>78017280

If that was true Pep would have used the 50m on him instead

>>78015213
>le never win anything country

>>78015407
>Cristiano was already a star in 2007
stupid ese, he was a star the moment he took bekham's place in manure.

>>78016552
Same here, there's at least 5 new Ronaldinhos and Ronaldos every decade

>>78015985
his price would be way too high for a player that hasn't really accomplished much. If he scores more than 20 this season too and takes Inter back to the CL he'd be valued well over 120m.

>>78015279
This. Asencio and Mbappe are the only ones who could maybe do it. The rest is meme trash

>>78015968
Bales goal in the CdR was better desu

Lel try again in 2019. Nobody is touching the top 2 this year.

>>78016305
>If he works out and makes the body of Ronaldo he ll surpass him

Nah. Ronaldo isn't just an athlete, he's also - like Messi - ridiculously rounded. His quality off both feet, chest control, flick ons, positioning between the lines of defence and his unreal heading are all things that took work and mined the outer limits of his talents. There's no way to be sure what Asencio's limits are.

>>78018151
Cristiano was on the podium of the ballon d'or with Messi and Kakà in 2007.

>>78017707
Top Kek

The manager who paid Josh stones and kyle walkers +100m?

Lemar's price isn't 50M btw

>>78018954
No one was ever saying Lemar is better but of course now that Bernado Silva isn't playing for a french club anymore the frenchman is the better player.

>>78014558
>Isco, Asencio, Draxler, Dybala, Neymar and Mbappe
One of these things is not like the others

>>78018999
Only second zone players move to City.

>No one was ever saying

What are your sources? Just watch the games/compare the stats. 14 goals/16 assists Vs 11 goals/10 assists while being 2 years older.

Monaco kept Lemar and Fabinho for a reason.

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>>78015453
>pulisuk

>>78016176
>350m€

>>78015897
Mbappe
Vinicius JR
Dembele
Rashford
Malang
Dolberg
Tielemans
Donnarrumma
Theo
100% Gabriel

>>78014558
>Draxler

>>78014558
>Draxler

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

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What happened to this guy? I was told he was going to be the next TSU

50 mil for Pulsic or more ?

marcus rashford

So funny that no one mentions the next Zidane and the next cruyff because they're English. It's more important to appear edgy and contrarian in front of your Internet friends than to speak any truth

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>>78014558
>babbys first era change experience: The thread

ben woodburn

>>78016066
>Outplayed

Outplaying is getting past a static defense with midfielders in defensive positions also, not one that has two players constantly running back

>>78021130
Vazquez is 26, he's no youngster. He's amazing as backup for a top tier team.

>>78021130
This guy was always shit, nobody said he was going to be the next TSU.

I feel that if Nerman doesnt make to the CL finals next year and don't go far enough with Brazilian NT in WC, he wil lose all his chances of being the dominant player in his era.

>>78015638
>MVP of 3 CL
"No"

>>78015453
>He's not young, he's 25
Midfielders peak from 25-32 years range. Specially if they are not pacy nogs without technique. Isco has 6 good years left if injuries treat him well

>>78022051
>>78022063
Vazquez is perfect as a handy number 12th

>>78016305
If Asensio bulks like Ronaldo he will become Bale 2.0 due injuries. Asensio is just a better version of Silva and he should remain that way

>>78020522
>>78020524

Draxler dominating other spectators in the stands of PSG lads

Asensio is on the same level as Mahrez

If you think Ousmane Dembele Can't Replace Neymar - Then watch this Video ! ● Skills & Goals 2017

>>78014558
>Draxler
>Dybala

Literally not even better than Rashford.

>>78014558
>Dybala

Didn't see him play the other day.

Rashford is hyped cause he's English.

>>78014558
Draxler doesn't deserve to be on this list.

>>78015259
>>78015332
Pulisic is going to become a very good, but otherwise unremarkable player. The type of guy who's a regular starter for a club like Dortmund, Liverpool, Tottenham, etc., but ultimately is never the key to them winning games.

>>78023813

He's the new Michael Owen, when/if he loses his pace he's finished.

Paulinho isnt worth the shoes he wears,hence it it is remarkable that some Barcalona Fanboys still defend their 40 million acquisition.

When will we stop with the Dybala meme

>be young and decent
>automatically goes to Real/Barca/Juve/Bayern/PSG

how can you be goat if your team walks the league with or without you ?

why are EPL players overlooked like that ?

>>78015407
That's pretty curious actually.
If I had to say, top ballin d'or winners of the next decade are these:
>Mbappe
Easily R9/Henry/zlatan level in the making. Complete forward.
>Dembele
Neymar/CR7/ maybe Messi level. He's only 20-21 I think so once he starts adding goals he'll be unstoppable.
>Pulisic
Playmaking ace. Neymar/cr7/bergkamp level.
>Asensio
Not sure who to compare him to, his playstyle doesn't remind of anyone besides maybe young totti.
>Werner
Another solid striker. Probably looking at suarez level.

Honorable mentions: Alli, sane, Jesus (haven't seen enough of him yet). Just counting players about 21 and lower since Messi and CR7 are essentially the old guard (30 and 32), and players ~5 years apart will still be in their shadow.

Probably missed a few though.

>>78016045
>18
>Playing for Monaco
>26 goals
>Including CL goals
>Score on buffon even

Shit lad, he has more goals at 18 than Messi and CR7 had in their first 3 professional seasons.

>>78023813
Um no sweetie, other way around. If he was called Rashfordinho, he'd unanimously be considered future GOAT.

>Coutinho
>Karius
>Alexander-Arnold
>Woodburn
>Matip
>Andy Robertson
>Can
>Salah
>Mane
>Firmino

Literally every Liverpool player younger than 25 will be GOATs in a couple years

>neymar
lel

>>78015746
Yea and if Peter Crouch scores 60+ goals this season and wins the PL he will definitely be a world class contender

>>78018467
Hasn't he scored 20+ goals the past 2 or 3 seasons though?

>>78025374
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Firmino

>Draxler

>>78015296
This. Qualifying games don't win the World Cup, World Cup games win you the World Cup.

Mbappe is overrated. mark my words

>>78016176
I see asensio as a classic 10 like totti though...am I the only one seeing it?

>>78015296
Fuck's sake.

*criying in Chilean*

>>78015985
he simply has a bad reputation for the whole cucking a friend stuff and teams are afraid he'll ruin their lockeroom or something. He seems to like where he is very much for now. He doesn't really want to leave if Inter keeps paying him what that whore of his wife asks. Also he still hasn't plaied in CL and the few games Inter had in EL were embarassing.

>>78017804
>le sopa de macaco country

>>78026067

>our sub-17 win the "4 nations" against France, belgium and Poland.

*stop criying*

>>78023578
RESPECT Come to besiktas

>>78025077
>why are EPL players overlooked like that ?
Because they are subpar. A shit player like De Brownie is considered "World class" in the EPL

>Draxlel
He's shit and he's like 25

>>78025226
All your levels make no fucking sense.

>Isco
maybe
>Asensio
spell it right, but agree
>Draxler
eh.....not yet
>Dybala
agree
>Neymar
if he didn't go to babby league then sure
>Mbappe
fell for the meme

stop forgetting Pogba. I know it's cool to ride the meme wave but he is actually pretty good. if he didn't try to showboat so much he'd be really good

>>78033040
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Draxler
>>>>>>>>>>>>eh.....not yet

>>78026140
>le need to beat the kiwis country

>>78018631
>>78018812
Jesus christ can you at least spell it right? Its Asensio you dumb fug

>>78033040
based

>>78021130
Don't actually listen to anyone on here desu.. it was probably one guy spewing that throughout the thread

>>78033040
I, for the most part, agree with this. I do think Isco and asensio are going to become something special at Real. I'm not sure about draxler desu, PSG saying they don't want him is strange?

Also I cant decide if I think Mbappe will become great or not.. only time will tell if his move to P$G will further his career and talent, or temporarily stalling it and ruining his confidence..

>>78016067
>poojeet

>>78015259
Neymar?

>>78014558
>Le never score 20 goals a season in fucking serie A
>Le not even a one season wonder madrid man
>Draxler!?
>Le second tsu brazilian
>Le spanish lallana
>Le 4th Henry

W E W

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OUTTA MY WAY EURO FUCKING SHITS

The Valverde era is here. Watch him on tuesday against Parawhy.

>>78015259
literally a poor man's Donovan

What's the problem with Draxler, I mean ok, he's not a Ballon d'Or pretender for the moment but you fags are reacting like he's completely shiet.

Man we are talking about a german Player, you know, the team where there is not really a too player because it's a TOP team.

Btw, MBappe is not overrated, the kid score like in every match easily and looks like je was born with a ball inside his mum.

And Dembele.. He's got the thing, but I don't know, didn't really proved that much. And he played for Dortmund not Monaco + bad attitude towards Dortmund, even if he wanted to go to his dream team.

>>78037456
>Mbappe kid score like in every match easily
>couldn't even score against Luxembourg
JUST

>>78037385
>Donovan
i've heard the name, some guy who couldn't handle actually making a starting 11 in europe so went home crying to MLS right?

>>78015407
lmao Bearcum was in his LATE 20s in 97/98

>>78037385
>m-muh Landycakes

>>78021926
>american on 4chan pretending he watched "soccer" before 2014

>>78025374
Trent will be one of the best players in the world and captain the club. Mané and Coutinho are already world class. If they played for United or Chelsea everyone would be kissing their asses.

>ctrl+f
>0 Gigi Dormammu/Oblak mentioned

Neuer is declining now
It's time for new non meme sweeper keeper to shines

>>78015583
>a mouthbreathing Aubameyang

>>78037847
He's 26

>>78018720
>breaking an injured Bartra
see, this shit right here is why England hasn't won a major football tournament since Churchill's balls dropped

>>78014558
>m'bappe
He is good but he will never ever be even close to the same kind of star that say messi or ronaldo was

>>78033040
>stop forgetting Pogba. I know it's cool to ride the meme wave but he is actually pretty good
Pogba is decent, but he isn't even a top 50 midfielder at the moment nor will he be in the top 50 in the future. Mediocre player that got bought to sell t-shirts to dabbing enthusiasts.

messi is still the goat hes just depressed he needs to join city

These players are all younger than me and all my old heroes are ded or fat. Also new players look like bitch boys, it's hard to explain, old players had this sort of super hero look.

Roland is starting to play like shit even though he scores a lot. Messi might last 4-5 years if he goes full midfielder.

I think I'm done with football las.

>>78039687
>>78039810
>only decent player ever produced was litmanen 20 years ago
>thinks he knows a single thing about football
LMAO

>>78040296
> Vietnam
> Only decent player ever produced was...
> Well...

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>>78040321
It's this guy right here. Here he is with his dear friend football legend Karembeu.
He was in a juggling competition with Beckham in 1999 and won.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nguy%E1%BB%85n_H%E1%BB%93ng_S%C6%A1n
>In Pepsi World Challenge 1999, he won the second place, above Dwight Yorke, David Beckham, Roberto Carlos (footballer).

>>78015854
Messi was elite from the get go, Ronaldo did have some god tier work ethics doe, his 1st 2 years for Man U he looked like just a pacey dude with a good dribble, but after the 2006 WC he was a changed man

>>78040417
Nice job for a rice nigger desu