Who's ready for the creation of the Catalan league in October?

barcelona vs espanyol matches EVERY WEEK FOREVER

>>77918588
No, there's also girona, reus, sabadell, and other teams

It's like saying the socctish league is Celtic v rangers all day

>>77918580
Good boy now go to papa Perez he had some money waiting for you

>>77918608
the scottish league used to be celtic vs rangers
now it's just celtic and others

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>>77918608
>barcelona
>girona has sheik money
>espanyol has chinese money
>sabadell has japanese money
could become a solid league

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>>77918564
*blocks your path*

>>77918687
You and I should know jeter than anyone else polls aren't accurate

>>77918588
>Español de Barcelona
>Catalán

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>>77918703
What did he mean by this?

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>>77918979
>what did he mean by this?

>>77919029
After a political murder

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>>77919041
>before a political murder

>>77918663
Lel

>>77918663
Wait a minute, why the fuck would Barça join ligue 1? Why the fuck would a team, who's all about Catalan nationalism, join the French league?

>>77919951
An independent Catalonia would instantly be annexed by France, like part of it is already in France

same deal with the Basques

>>77918564
arent boixos nois nazis?

>>77919994
But why? What would they gain out of it? Besides, there would be an international outcry if France annexed a country that just voted for independence. Remember Crimea?

>>77919994
>>77920065

This is actually cringy guys, stop it pls

>>77920030
I'm not sure if they're still nazis but they're definelty far right. I thought their logo would look cool in the flag, that's really the only reason why I use de it

>>77920154
How the fuck would u know lolol

>>77920412
I wouldn't know that's why I said I'm not sure

>>77920412
stop being rude idiot

>>77920547
did you really write anonymous in the name field you fucking retard

>>77920564
i dont like caps

>>77920564
kek relax guy

>>77919951
Because that would make the rest of Spain cringe ad infinitum, which is enough

These are the people who booed their own king when he appeared after the Barcelona attacks

>>77920626
I guess, but considering Catalonia wants Roussillon joining te French league probably wouldn't happen either

>>77918979
Pull up the Trump polls from October

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>>77920758

>>77919118
Not sure why you think polls from months away are more relevant from polls a week away

>>77921655
Because I'm trying to prove a point. basically all the polls said that brexit wasn't happening, and guess what it happened. And the polls weren't even predicting it that close either

>>77921682
>basically all the polls said that brexit wasn't happening
>>77918979
They patently didn't I don't know why you feel the need to continually deny reality

>>77921700
The polls said trump wasn't gonna win. They said geert wilders was gonna win, then that he would narrowly loose. The polls said marine le pen would win the first round. Now the polls are saying Catalonia won't go. Let's see what happens in october

>>77921829
>The polls said trump wasn't gonna win
Within margin of error
>They said geert wilders was gonna win, then that he would narrowly loose
Which is what happened
>The polls said marine le pen would win the first round
No they didn't they said she'd come 2nd which is what happens

I think the real issue is that you're a serial liar

>>77921875
>within the margin of error
Fair point

>geert wilders narrowly lost
13 seats is narrow depending on your opinion, but the polls said it would be a lot more narrow

>marine le pen would come in second in the 1st round
Actually, up until the last 2-3 weeks to the election, nearly every poll said she'd win the first round. Then they became mixed when finally the last week said she would come second

IF Catalan started its own league, would Barcelona thrive like other one team leagues (Ligue 1, PSG) or stagnate like other one team leagues (Premiership, Celtic)?

>>77921974
My answer is a little complicated do just let me know if you get lost

I do think it would get a lot of money, considering Barça is a global team to TV networks would have no choice but to air the Catalan league. If the new league would take the English model and have each league (as opposed to individual leagues) then the smaller teams would have more of a chance. They could also have more of a chance because I'm sure rich people would want to invest in the league. Catalonia getting independent is a lot bigger of a deal than something like Kosovo, and there's already a cult following around Barça. With Barça being amazing, and espanyol being able to take on half the Europa league teams, the new league should be able to get a decent amount of teams in Europe within a few years

That being said, Barça and espanyol already have a huge head start. If you were to get the top 10 Catalan teams, you'd have to go into the regional league. Even Taragonna would BTFO half the teams in Catalonia.

With the amount of money those two have, I think the Catalan league would be like the current Spanish league. The top two teams fighting for a spot, and occasionally one of the 3rd or 4th teams gets into second place for a week and drops back down. That would be my bet, at least until the smaller teams start to catch up.

Just another league for me to not watch.

Just grotty castillians and lazy andaloos wanna be spooniards, the rest want to jup off the board from that meme country. One wonders why...

>>77918687
Pro-Spain catalans will not go to vote in the illegal referendum of 1-O. Expecting a 80-90% in favor of the independence with a 25% voter turnout

>>77918564
uses the bulldogs's logo

>>77924788
Can't wait to see Rajoy sending the infamous Guardia Civil (he can not use the army against people) to figh mossos de escuadra and some pagés force. The aftermath after 1-0 is gonna be a kek heaven, no doubt.

>>77923447
>Swedecucks

>>77924814
your damage control is weak af, plus you can not refuse my arguments probably because you know, deep inside, that I am correct. you piece of cake

>>77918564

Sorry but my guess is barça would join french league.

That way french league surpasses leliga easily, so both the team and the organization win in the process. Probably espanyol would also join.

>>77920626
The spanish -so called- king is a ridiculous mofo and gets booed anytime he leaves Madrid

>>77924846
No arguments to be seen. It just strikes me as embarrassing when a Swede (arguably the most wretched culture in Europe) mingles in foreign affairs and displays his benevolent ignorance. See—

>>77923447
>>77924805
>>77924846
>>77924893

I don't know what kind of deranged media you've been fueling on, but it's time to stop.

>>77924949
take off Euskadi and Catalonia from Spain and you'll have a Morocco tier country. Everyone knows that
>>77924949
>arguably the most wretched culture in Europe
Obviously you have never been to Sweden, probably you just left your shithole country to travel with "orgullo vikingo" or some other semi-nancy group unironically following a team full of moors anfd niggers like RM
KEK

>>77925003
>can't even spell Catalunya properly
>anyone who contradicts him is automatically a 'vikingo' or a 'mandrilista'
>'everyone knows that'
>nigger nigger nigger
>KEK

The level of Swedish literacy, boys.

>>77925090


Well, he is right you know?

>>77925090
>all this nonsense and damage control
Don't bother, hairy subhuman disgrace. Your meme country is about to crumble away once and for all and you just can watch and cry.

>spanish league being cut up
>spanish national being cut up

feel our pain cunts. bale should be pulling on a british shirt at competitions and celtic should be in the premier league, but because nobody realised the implications when the league was set up we are now the only country to have our national teams and leagues split by regions.

bavarian and occitan independence next please :)

>boixos nois being associated with the far-left mindset currently installed in catalonia
kek

>>77925090
but he had pretty good and fair points

>>77925137
Speak for yourself retard. Most people don't want these things.

>>77925153
>>77925105
kek leave him to me. I probably fucked his mother and sister in my last spanish holiday, so he deserves my love too

>>77925162
i don't really give a shit whether people want these things or not, the fact is to my knowledge we are the only sovereign nation with our national team and league split between regions.

although the only people who'd seriously be opposed would be scots because muh nationalism and because none of their players would get in the national team.

>>77925212
Most people would be opposed, the only people who wouldn't is people who think "British" is actually a thing, i.e niggers from London, which I'm guessing is you.

>>77925117
>hairy subhuman disgrace
>hairy

What's so awful about hair anyways? Bear in mind not all countries are so depraved and emasculated as yours.

>>77925191
>ur mom
Neat. But you still lack the basest notion about realities in Spain. Probably just went to Barna and got wasted like many of your country-fellows.

>>77925212
you brits are way smarter than bloody spooniards.
You allow different national teams, but you go together to the olimpics, no problem. Plus you always have the british lions for full UK pride. Then you allow referendums in the Scottylands to sort things out/deal with the Sinn Fein, while the spooniards force everyone to be a Madrid satellite/jail politicians, hence the hate and the booed -so called- king everytime he steps out from his castillian comfort zone.
Think about it.

>>77925240
>boring af
>repetitive
adios amigo, it was fun to expose you a little

I don't care about Catalan independence, just keep your hands off of our Islands, don't drag them along in your petty infighting, amigos

Also, Lloret, Calella and the entire Costa Brava need to stay fully accessible for us as well, thanks

>>77925227
absolute bollocks. more people in england are more atttached to the concept of being british because at the end of the day that's how we are perceived and the entire golden age of our culture and nation was after 1707. added to that, it makes sense for "niggers in london" to be pulling on the shirt of britain than england, england is an ethnic identity and i'd rather keep it that way rather than letting every tyrone and rasheed claim englishness,

>>77923447
>>77924805
>>77924846
>>77925003

>Muslim opinions
Into the trash it goes

>>77925191
>I fucked his mom lol im so rad XDDDDD
You know you have to be over 18 to post im 4chan right?

>>77925263
Bon, ja és prou vergonyós. Even if you lack the ability to raise actual points you need to put more work into your shitposting.

>>77925287
magaluf is ours you filthy kraut

we will fight you on the beaches and mark our territory in vomit

>>77925292
*english is an ethnic identity

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>>77925303
>>77925315
>>77925317
>three moors in a row

>>77918703
Vanguardia and Periodico are secessionist media. The former in particular, is run by scatalan mafia and alive only thanks to the regional governments propaganda budget.

>>77918564
Barcelona would never play in a Catalan League. La Liga is one of the most lucrative league there is, without LL Barcelona would fall into irrelevancy rather fast, they would be on level with Celtic, at best with Benfica. It will never happen. But nice troll.
>>77925333
Stop defiling our flag with your nonsense.

>>77925333
>three moors in a row
Must feel like home to you Muhammad Al Swedenstan

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>>77925333
xDDdd

At last you unveiled us. But as you very well know, us Muslims and SJWedencucks are destined to love each other. Brace yourself and hide your girlfriends and sisters, for we are coming.

>>77925358
Vanguardia is an endless source of thrills and laughs. Quico Sallès is the man.

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>>77925292
You're wrong. Outside of major cities, more people identify as English over British. I've never heard anyone in real life describe themselves as British. It's a cringy term and if there were a vote the majority would be against there being a UK football team.

>>77925358

you really believe that, do you?

>>77925394
Also note the top 5 regions that identify as British are all in London, the least white parts of London.

>>77925361
>Barcelona would never play in a Catalan League. La Liga is one of the most lucrative league there is, without LL Barcelona would fall into irrelevancy rather fast, they would be on level with Celtic, at best with Benfica. It will never happen.
Remember that national leagues are about to become secondary tournements, being a pan-european league the next source of incomes for the top 20 clubs in Europe
>>77925361
>Stop defiling our flag with your nonsense.
Ta det lugnt, broder. Någon måste utbilda de spanska retarderna
>>77925376
>be muslium territory for 7 centuries
>have moorish genetics
>call others what you really are
KEK

>>77918564

muslim terrorists cannot wait

>>77925444
checked
also, daily reminder that the Barcelona attack just six weeks before the referendum has been planned by the spanish goverment as an excuse to literally infest Catalonia with cops actually looking for separatists

>>77925404
I think he does, and rends a fair point as to the fact that (for quite a few decades, under the hegemony of the fascists from Convergència) independentist propaganda, brainwashing, has been administered to us at school, at work, via press and public television, everywhere; thus is a national consciousness w/ seceding fervours arisen. Others call this practice social engineering.
Whatever, Catalan independence is a matter of time, as the polls announce a far warmer (if not fanatical) reception of 'el procés' among the younger generations.
Though not a feat of my joy we must assume Catalunya will fully become independent. I speak the truth. Screencap this post.

>>77925441
>Ta det lugnt, broder.

Why do the Suedóise call each other ''brother''? Was it your broder actually posting there? What kind of barbarism is this?
When I arrived at Göteborg years ago I was assailed by natives calling me broder, broder and broder again. Even females called me her broder! Can anybody explain to what this is owed? Does it have to do with some widespread incentuous fetish?
It would relieve my heart to know.

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>>77925404
Google it for yourself sweetie. Both newspapers should be in bankrupcy. The Generalidad gives something like 2m a year to the Count of Godo for printing his pamphlet.

>>77925483
>>77925536

CiU has only been full force for indy since last year, and I can tell that even right now many of them are scared of the possibility.
Godó's media is in general not very indy inclined in fact. You can check this, there are studies comparing indy vs unionists at debates at every channel (rac1, 8tv, vanguardia...). Non-indy are the majority in Godó's media.

I am catalan too. My highschool & uni classes were taught in spanish mostly, and the only professors giving us political influence in regard to cat-spain conflict were unionists.

Hell, catalan tv is not even the most watched channel in catalonia, I think it's tele5.

Sorry but the brainwashing theory does not stand by itself. Not unless you buy the same brainwashing but reversed in the rest of spain, which I don't buy.

>>77924849
Considering Catalonia wants Roussillon and France isn't giving it up any time soon, I don't think any of those teams would join the French league. They'd probably stick to the Catalan league as a slap in the face to both of them

>>77925090
Um, I hate muslims as much as the next guy, but he spelled Catalonia the English way

>>77925137
>Celtic in the premier league
I'm not an expert on the Scottish league but wouldn't Celtic just get stuck in the championship like Preston?

>>77925137
Also Bavarian and Occitan independence is something I can get behind. Let's make it happen

>>77927136
Of course its telecinco you have to count all the grandmas who watch belen

Any problem with that m8?

>>77925287
Your islands? Your own country isn't even yours shouldn't you worry about that first?

>>77925287
STAY OUT OF MAGALUF REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>77927780

I've been suporting barça all my life, but I'm not dellusional. It is a company and a catalan league would hurt them hard financially-wise. Barça board doesn't give a flying fuck about catalonia independence right now, so I don't think they will decide taking that into account.

Honestly my guess is
- keep playing la liga. If not possible, league 1.

Holy shit, if cat-independence actually happens I am going straight back to madrid and I will enlist in the army to make sure its Spanish when spain resorts to military control

>>77927941
Well, if pique or some other pro-Catalan becomes president in the next election, they'll start caring about Catalonia again. Hopefully bartomeu will be out before then

>>77927982
Then I'll join the Catalan army

>>77928017

I want barto out as much as everyone. But in any case I don't think national felling will be strong enough to make the stupid catalan league real.

>>77928050
>Real spanish army vs numale gommies
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>77927780
Wait they want Roussillon? I'm all for giving that shithole to them.

Here's why there will never be a Catalan league:
1. The spanish constitution doesn't allow secession
2. The army and the Guardia Civil are pro Spain
3. EU will never back Catalonia
4. Only 2 million out of 7 million catalans want independence

For me, it's Cornellà

>>77928321
The American constitution doesn't allow succession but that didn't stop the civil war from happening did it?

Also Catalonia seems to be very pro-EU why wouldn't the EU support them?

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>>77928907
>comparing the confederate states, which had their own army and their citizens had arms, to a place with no army and is full of autistic antifas, gays and muslim apologists
And the EU treaties don't allow the secession if it's illegal

>>77928985
The CSA didn't even have an army until thy succeeded. I'm sure Catalonia will do the same

>>77928985
Kosovo secession is illegal, but recognized by 23 of 28 EU countries

>>77929212
And don't forget Kosovo is also a UEFA member

>>77929181
>The CSA didn't even have an army until thy succeeded. I'm sure Catalonia will do the same
In an era were a fucking farmer with a fork could count as infantry and be useful. What can a less than a half of the Catalonia population do against a professional army? Fucking nothing, stop deluding yourself
>>77929212
>Kosovo secession is illegal, but recognized by 23 of 28 EU countries
1. Serbia wasn't a EU member
2. Over 90% of their population wanted independence (more than half of Catalonia's population doesn't want independence)
3. The EU has stated countless times that they will not support the secession

>>77918564
If this happens then the European superleague is guaranteed to happen
No jew wants to miss the FCB vs RM shekels

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>>77929252
mfw when Kosovo does better than Albania in many sports
Both are probably really mad that they can't field a single team

>>77929365
>EU
>double standards

>>77928321
>It's ilegal acording to our 40 year old paper
LMAO

>>77928215
because it was ours you fucking frong

>>77928128
what is podemos

Anyway this thread is pointless
even if the independence happens, Barça and all catalan teams can play in the Spanish league just like monaco plays in France and Benelux had a multinational league a couple of years

>>77928985
Catalonia would also have to formally reapply for a new EU-memebrship, given that seceding from a member-State means seceding from the EU. Im not quite sure Catalonia would survive on its own by assuming some sort of "rogue-State" role while being stuck, without financial support (no EU gibsmedat, no euro currency, borders back on), right next to a member-State contesting the legitimacy of its secession.

>>77929641
Benelux never had a multinational league. And Barcelona can be a new Celtic from a new català league.

Catalonia can adopt some schemes to economic surveillance like: allow russian and chinese military bases, stabilish off-shores and legal gaming and being free harbour for immigrants from Asia and Africa and from there move for whole Europe

Under these terms, EU shall be forced to admit Catalonia in your side.

>>77929762
The moment they invite Russian military in they'd get 'liberated' by the US and probably France as well.

>>77929695
Right, it was Sweden, Norway and Denmark but Benelux has planed it and in the near future they will have it

>>77929641
Stop using Monaco as an example. Monaco can play La Ligue 1 because their are just a small city state. Why aren't belgian teams playing in la ligue 1?

And for those who say Barça is too important for La Liga to let them go, remind them that with the money they get from the TV rights, another spanish team could replace them. And most of their fans would bandwagoon to other teams once they see their stars running to other teams because Barça can't pay their wages

>>77930056
Sure just like Crimea and Georgia huh?
>>77929762
>
no catalan want this

>>77929762
>Catalonia can adopt some schemes to economic surveillance like: allow russian and chinese military bases
Before they even think of doing this, you'll see the US sending troops to "help Spain" stabilize the region

>>77930084
>bandwagoning Getafe and Almería

>>77930122
>What is Atletico
>What is Athletic
>What is Valencia
>What is Sevilla
UMA

>>77930085
Ukraine and Georgia were never NATO territory. Russia marched i n there because NATO was grying to make that happen though. USA, GB, FR and Nato in general would never allow Russian presence in the western Med, in the core of EU and NATO sphere. This is geopolitics 101.

>>77930084
>Stop using Monaco as an example
no
>Monaco can play La Ligue 1 because their are just a small city state
no, they play cause they want and france wants too
>Why aren't belgian teams playing in la ligue 1?
cause they have their own league for now but could join eredivise in the future
>remind them that with the money they get from the TV rights, another spanish team could replace them
If youtake out the second most watched team
the tv rights money would not stay the same dumbass
>And most of their fans would bandwagoon to other teams
this is not the nba
>once they see their stars running to other teams because Barça can't pay their wages
why not? perhaps we would have less taxes for them in order to compete

>>77930177
thinking that catalonia would allow chinese and russian army thats retardedness 101

>>77930156
By this logic, teams like Spartak Subotica, Proleter Zrenjamin, Radnicki Nis or Borac Cacak would be giants of Serbia

>>77930187
>no, they play cause they want and france wants too
Monaco
>Official language: FRENCH
>Area: 2.02 km2
>2016 census 37,308
Cataluña
>Official languages: Spanish, Catalan
>Area: 32,108 km2 (15,000 times bigger)
>2016 census 7,522,596 (200 times higher)
Only retards would keep comparing Cataluña with Monaco

>If youtake out the second most watched team the tv rights money would not stay the same dumbass
Of course, because all the sponsors will go to the catalan league instead of staying in La Liga, or going to the EPL or Bundes. They were born cules and want to give them money no matter what, despite all of the european teams stealing all of their star players. You are just too naive

>>77930219
DELICIA

>>77930067
That's if Belgium doesn't split in the next few years

>>77930187
Monaco plays in France because a league didn't exist in Monaco until 2000
>https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monégasque_Football_Federation

>>77930340
>comparing Cataluña with Monaco
Who is doing this?
people are only saying that not all teams from a league have to be from the same nation
cardiff is in the premier league despite wales having a league on their own
Toronto Raptors play in the NBA
Check your autism

>>77930606
so fucking what?
catalonia doesn't have a league either
your point?

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>>77921937
>nearly every poll said she'd win the first round
I think the issue here my burger friend is that you dont know what you are talking about and take things at face-value without taking any time for analysis and critical thinking. Polls only take into account people that say they are certain to vote for a candidate, which means that extreme parties are over-represented for weeks before the election-day because people voting for those are usually more certain than the others. Once the election was in sight, uncertains voters finally decided and Marine Le Pen mechanically fell in the polls.

>>77930646
If they don't have a league, they can't have an oficial FIFA national team. Wha'ts the point of all this independence stuff, when they can only play against unofficial national teams?

>>77930084
Is Canada a small city state too?
With shekels on the stake everything is possible

>>77930736
the point of independence its not fucking sports you know

>>77930761
Then don't fucking cry when your team becomes irrelevant in your irrelevant catalan league

>>77930177
>This is geopolitics 101
a.k.a. disinfo
>>77930736
>>77930646
They can have a league for shit clubs while Barca and Espanyol continue to play in La Ligue
Look at Swansea for an example

Friendly reminder that Catalan independence is a right wing movement like all nationalisms.
The CUP is a joke.

>>77930829
>What is ERC

>>77930880
A nationalist party larping as leftist to grab charnego votes
True catalans are a minority in Catalonia, we can't win elections on our own after the migrations from the 60's so we now have to be leftist to stay in power

>>77930646
If there was a Catalan league already Barça might already play with them

Is this /int/?

>>77930829
Divide and Conquer isn't nationalism, it's autism
Look at Ukraine or Yugoslavia, these "nationalists" have done nothing but killed millions of their own kind, even "refugees welcome" is better than this kind of suicidal "nationalism".

>>77928050
No you wont, you dont even know catalan i bet

>>77930798
Swansea is a bad example. Wales is still park of the UK so applying for premier league spots was easier. Catalonia wont be controlled by Spain anymore

>>77930998
Ok, there's this Northern Irish team that plays in Ireland, or vice versa, can't remember. Just look it up.

>>77930745
Canada is a bad example because rich Americans decide to start teams up there to get more viership for their leagues. Monaco was started by an average French guy who merged a couple of teams in the area

>>77930947
>armenia

>>77930947
So why aren't you joining russia or turkey?

>>77931085
Because we won't assimiliate. Different ethnic groups and different languages
People in Catalunya speak Spanish and are visually indistinguishable from Spaniards. Same goes for Ukrainians-Russians-Belarussians and Yugoslavs

>>77931179
thanks to point out that you are an idiot

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>>77931179
Well, that didn't stop the welsh from assimilating, or the bretons, or the basques (to an extent), or even the entire fucking country of Italy

>>77931179
what is catalan

>>77931179

and all asians look the same to me, thing that didn't stop them for killimg each other for thousands of years.

Puigdemont is a really clever politician, he will guide us swiftly to a free Catalonia and will easily overcome any obstacle he faces.

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>>77918564
I'd root for Llagostera famalam

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>>77933956
They're just a cheap knockoff of Barça