/nba/ General: THE BRODIE EDITION

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>>77883182
i'm joking. the possible denver package for irving that was rumored/imagined had shooters. beverley is actually a fine enough shooter and i'd love to see irving on the clippers but they don't have a 2018 lottery pick for cleveland. mirotic is unsigned so far; irving and shumpert for lavine, zipser, s&t mirotic and the bulls 1st?

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>>77883132
I'll be there

nbag dunk contest when?

Legit question: If the Cavs knew how serious IT's injury was, why would they trade Kyrie in a package that doesn't involve a starting PG?

Celtics were trying to fool an inexperienced GM who didn't know that you can't trust Ainge.

>>77883327
I don't like that Bulls deal but that's in large part because I'm really low on Lavine (I think he's going to be a really good sixth man scorer off the bench type but I'm not sure he's more than that)

That said, if the Celtics trade falls through, there's still plenty of offers out there for Cleveland. Kyrie is still a 25-year-old All-Star who's getting traded for reasons unrelated to his basketball ability. The thing that made Boston's offer so good is that it managed to keep them competitive this year while also building for the long term. But if Isaiah's hip actually is worse than is reported, then obviously the deal is much worse for them in the near-term than we initially thought, which brings the other deals that are out there a lot closer. I think Phoenix is most likely - they can give a lot of value if Cleveland doesn't insist on getting Josh Jackson back. I think the 2018 Phoenix pick, 2018 Miami pick, Bledsoe, and maybe another role player gets it done easily and I think Phoenix would do that. Denver could make something happen too, and a Kyrie - Jokic team up could be an amazingly fun thing to watch.

I still think the most likely thing is that the Celtics will give up another first rounder, or a couple seconds and a young player who is not Smart, Brown, Tatum, or Ojeleye, or something like that. And I think the Celtics would be incredibly stupid not to give up a package like that to make the deal work. But maybe they're going to dig their heels in. I don't know.

>>77883132
original Russell x PG picture is the cutest thing tbqh

>>77883547
Gay, bi or London?

>>77883507
well it's a very fluid and exciting situation. i'm having fun with it.

i like the suns ideas the most too, makes the most sense to me. bledsoe feels like a good fit on the cavs team, and the suns are probably the team that'd make the shortest leap with kyrie, so their own first-round pick should remain at least close to the top 5 next draft and thus valuable. kyrie on the nuggets makes them a playoff team more likely than not.

A lineup built around Kyrie Irving, Devin Booker, and TJ Warren would be soooooooooooooo bad defensively but it would be sooooooooo fun to watch

/sp/ told me Pooprie is the best pg in the league if he can't carry the celtics to the finals he's a fraud.

>>77883682
>Pooprie
haha nice

>>77883634
I actually think the Nuggets make the playoffs even without Kyrie so I agree with you there. I like them a lot for that 8th seed right now.

>>77883682
Well, he will so... Yeah.

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>Getting click baited into giving up assets

Enjoy L.A. Lelbron

>>77883807
desu i hope the denver keep their guys together. they have a nice young core (jokic, murray, harris, possibly also hernangomez, beasley, lyles) and good vets, to whom they added millsap. good coach, solid culture. not too hot about mudiay. they can grow organically into something and maybe be ready whenever the dubs start to fall apart.

>>77883961
If LeBron goes to LA he's ending his legacy as a failure and the most overrated player ever after talking a whole bunch of shit and trying to be better than MJ. He's not winning there at all, would just go there to retire, live in luxury, and be focused on outside business more than basketball. Would be a huge white flag to show he's a quitter. LeBron is not that much of a coward. He'll go to a team that already has 1 or 2 all stars and good cap situation with tradeable or complementary roleplayers, preferably young so they fetch more return in a trade. Just like he did when he went back to Cleveland.

>>77883132
Whoever goes to the /nba/ meetup I hope someone shoots all of you faggots

>>77884306
They have a lot of great pieces but it doesn't quite fit together yet I don't think. Murray and Harris play the same position, it's not clear they have anyone who's a real primary ballhandler, low on small forwards, a bunch of little stuff like that. The pieces are good and Jokic is so fucking good that you would think they'll eventually figure it out. You have to think Harris is getting dealt.

Also, Mudiay is trash.

>>77884923
yeah you're probably right. murray at point guard looks like a solid stopgap solution but it's still an awkward fit to some degree. but they have time, they don't have to solve this right away.

>>77884923
>>77885364
and i hope they can reclaim lyles too. he looked promising in utah before hitting some wall hard.

>>77884519
t. Angry clips

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Fat Miley Cyrus with a tan has never looked this good.

>>77885450
i wish i had some clips to unload on you faggots that's for sure, but i'm not gonna go all the way from texas to faggot ass cali with their pussy gun laws.

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>i wish i had some clips to unload on you faggots that's for sure, but i'm not gonna go all the way from texas to faggot ass cali with their pussy gun laws.

>>77885562
also, you'd need a boat to make the trip

>>77885799
Or you know. A plane.

>the /nba/ meetup is actually a secret purge to get rid of the most rabid shitposters
not a bad idea desu i approve

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What did they mean by this?

>Danny Ainge to Koby Altman to "go **** yourself" when Altman asked for additional assets from the Celtics

Based

>>77886085
Source on this

Just received the 2017/2018 NBA official script book. The idea this year will be to frame LeBron as the all-time great riddled with strife. His protege left him (the Celtics trade will go through in the end) and Cleveland is in shambles. LeBron will be injured for most of the first half of the season until DeMarcus is traded for the Nets pick.

Cleveland will then finish after the all star break 40-2 and LeBron will claim MVP. The finals will be brought to 7 games but DeMarcus will be suspended for the final game. 'Payback' for 2016 is how it will be framed but really it is just the prelude for the dissolution of the Cavs. Thomas, DeMarcus and LeBron all will leave next summer. DeMarcus to LA, Thomas to the Wolves, and LeBron to OKC. The LeBron-to-OKC drama will unfold after 'tension' with Durant and the Warriors and rumors that Durant wants back in to OKC after OKC made it to the WCF.

LeBron is stealing Durant's proverbial home, which will be the storyline for the 2018-2019 season.

Any questions?

>>77886341
>The finals will be brought to 7 games but DeMarcus will be suspended for the final game
who won?

>>77886341
yeah, two questions

1) are you from oklahoma
2) did you have an erection while writing this

>>77886341
>Any questions?

At what age did you find out you have autism?

>>77886341
>Any questions?
If there were two guys on the moon and one killed the other with a rock would that be fucked up or what?

>>77886341
hinks i hope you're using a closed shell system behind 3-5 proxies or else silver is gonna go after your ass

>>77886411
The Warriors
>>77886439
>>77886491
I'm sorry if you're jealous of my insider access but you shouldn't be. It was an early career choice, and if you wanted the same career, you probably could have it.


The NBA uses macro-psychological profiles to target certain regions with their storylines. Right now, the LeBron storyline is convoluted because it is suppose to be a flyover vs. costal elite battle against the Warriors but LeBron's identity is too much of the 'coastal elite'.

The Oklahoma match is a compromise, because of the tension between LeBron and Durant. Durant's masochism makes him perfect to fill the 'coastal elite' roll (he hates himself).

The Rockets will win the majority of their nationally televised games.

Spurs will go out in the second round to the Rockets. They won't be hyped this year, we're delaying Kawhi's 'MVP' year for when he can battle LeBron in the WCF.

I do think, with the Solomon Hill injury, that Boogie and possibly AD getting traded this year is in play for real

that roster gets real, real ugly once you get past Jrue, Boogie, and AD. their rotation now consists of Rajon Rondeaux, Jordan Crawford, Quincy Pondexter, Alexis Ajinca, E'Twaun Moore, Darius Miller, and Ian Clark. I mean.... jesus fucking christ that is a bad roster. That is brutal.

>>77886601
>Spurs will go out in the second round to the Rockets.
Well, first time for everything, I suppose.

>>77886601
this is literally NBA fanfiction

>>77886601
>Spurs will go out in the second round to the Rockets
But I thought the WCF was going to be OKC/GSW?

like even if you're making something up, you gotta be able to come up with something more plausible than Lebron to OKC

No wonder all the other generals make fun of us, 95% of people in here have some sort of mental disorder.

>>77886981
Oh please /hoc/, /nfl/, /mlb/, and the numerous soccer generals have no business here

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Hahahahahhaha Texans trying talk shit a hurricane is purging all you hicks

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>>77886981

wtf the rams lost to teh chargers lmao that means they are losers, men

Free Tobias Harris

>>77883394
Pbu

>tfw sold one of my extra chargers jerseys on Craigslist and didnt get stabbed

Today was a god dream

>Cleveland Cavaliers to ask Boston Celtics for Jaylen Brown or Jayson Tatum as added compensation due to IT's hip. (Via ESPN)

So who do the Cavs trade Kyrie to now?

>Ben Simmons CLEARED for 5-on-5, Joel Embiid still NOT cleared

Joel Embiid isn't the next Greg Oden they said

>>77888950
>actually asking for the next MJ and Paul Pierce
HAHAHAHAHAHA
the cavs are retarded.

>>77885845
tfw wouldnt mind going to a meetup to talk about my main cuteboi russell bestbrook

>>77888950
Phoenix, if the trade actually fails.

but also this is probably a negotiating tactic for Cleveland the same way the BOSTON WILL NEVER NEGOTIATE stuff was for Boston. so when they agree on doing a first rounder and Terry Rozier, or whatever it ends up being, everyone can come out and say that they got something out of it.

>Get hired as GM
>Star player demands a trade
>Get a great haul
>Try and extort team that made great haul for even more
>Get a bad reputation
>GMs never make deals with you anymore

Lmao @ Kobe atman

>>77888950
No fucking way they aren't actually asking that are they?

What the hell is Cleveland doing?

>>77887421
>>77887421

You know all of /sp/ hates this general right Larry? I know your delusional faggot minions in your LGBTLD suck you off constantly but take a step back into reality.

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>Lebron dunks
nice
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSxXikat_pU

>>77889313
Can't wait for Kyrie to cross him over and expose the shit out of him.

>>77883132
okc really does have the cutest dudes

>>77889462
cant wait for lebron to slap kyries butt for doing a good job on that crossover
>>77889500
heck yeah

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>>77889025
>the next Paul Pierce

>>77889580
thats the one that bothers you???
not the "next MJ"

>>77889592
the next mj, the next kobe is a common thing fans say.

what does the next Paul Pierce even mean? he's nowhere near that type of status.

that's like a fan in 20 years saying that some pg is the next Kemba Walker lmao

>>77889621
Actually Tatum is extremely similar to Pierce in play style, and Danny Ainge and Celtics brass have literally, explicitly compared him to Pierce and was a big reason why they went after him, even before the draft there were a lot of comps about him as Paul Pierce.

That's actually legitimate.

The MJ one is the meme.
>books nigga
>anywhere in MJ's stratosphere

>>77888950
Source?

>>77889699
Woj. Bleacher report just ran a story on it.

Not from a tweet, but rather an ESPN story.

>>77889621
>Comparing kemba fucking walker to the truth
(You)

>>77889730
Looks like LeGM is overstretching.

Wyc should just go public and veto the trade.

>Danny Ainge, Pagliuca and Wyc hold a public presser

>Danny Ainge specifically says that no one should ever trade with the Cavs ever under Altman's reign
>Wyc and Pagliuca veto the trade by burning a Isaiah Thomas cavs jersey

>>77889621
Pierce is a Hall of Famer, my dude

>>77889688
>>77889742
>>77889808
for sure Paul Pierce is a YUGE all time great my guy, 100% on the level of mj my man for sure

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*ignore you*

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>>77889927

>>77889981
for SURE Paul "le truth" Pierce is an all time great my man, for SUUUUUURE

>Cleveland being this greedy

I hope they cancel the trade desu. Jew GMs are cancer

>Celtics doctor may believe IT will only miss a month. Cavs hip specialist may be saying it could be entire season ...

>>77890537
lmao he has ainge by the balls, IT and Crowder will be CANCER

>>77890555
Which is funny because the Celtics usually overstate their injuries.

Wonder who is actually telling the truth here.

>>77890577
Not really. If ainge says no they wont find a better trade and then theyll go from the best outcome to the shittiest outcome in a matter of a week

>>77890569
Crowder is literally a non-issue.
The IT being cancer thing could be a problem though, but why would cleveland give up the best offer possible on that small contingency?

>>77890577
It could be that they just... disagree.

But I tend to believe the Cavs a little more, for two reasons. First, it's a hip injury, which is something that absolutely has a possibility to fuck a player up in a major way that takes a really long time to recover from. Second, it feels like after the trade was initially announced, there was a lot of dark hinting from Boston people (front office, media people, Bill Simmons) that they were really really worried about his hip. Which is a reasonable thing to be worried about but it does cause you to question: how certain were they that it would only be a month?

>>77890611
Meant to reply to>>77890569

>>77890611
But Boston would also go from the best outcome for them to the shittiest outcome for them.

Avoiding that is worth more than a draft pick.

>>77890611
>>77890617
I wasn't being rhetorical with my second statement by the way. I was seriously saying I wonder who is actually telling the truth.

And the difference between "out for a month" versus "out for the season" is too different to just be a disagreement, someone is stretching the truth. Question is: who?

>>77886744
They aren't dealing AD. Nola's roster has been fucking terrible for a long time.

Pels problem is they tank, get one great player, get dragged to mediocrity, they leave, repeat. Their front office is incapable of building supporting roster from fringe prospects. Contrast with the Texas triangle teams which are able to continually become respectable despite shit picks year after year.

>>77890611
he already lost out on butler and pg13, he has to get kyrie or this off-season has been a huge loss.

>>77890644
>And the difference between "out for a month" versus "out for the season" is too different to just be a disagreement, someone is stretching the truth. Question is: who?

It could be that Cleveland thinks he'll need surgery (which IIRC takes something like 6-9 months to recover from) whereas Boston thinks that he doesn't need surgery & that resting it will be enough

>>77890611
The Cavs can find a trade on par that includes a respectable healthy PG, which is what they need and was key to the deal.

I can legit see them vetoing the trade.

Just throw in an extra pick and be done with it

>>77890677
> he has to get kyrie or this off-season has been a huge loss.
He got Hayward and basically flipped the entire fucking team.

In what way would this off-season be a huge loss lmao

>>77890769
If they don't get Kyrie, they're suddenly in a position where they've basically just replaced Isaiah Thomas with Gordon Hayward, while also losing Avery Bradley and getting Jae Crowder to hate them. Because IT is done for them. So if they don't get Kyrie, their best player is Gordon Hayward and their second best player is Horford going into the season.

>>77890769
1- hayward is trash, you racist connecucks are gonna get so btfo.
2- he lost bradley who helps the no defence pg
3- alfraudford is still there

Before
>Cavs fleeced Ainge!! celshits BTFO! e-enjoy ur shitty iso hog!!
After
>I-its not fair! Hes injured! Nobody knew he was injured!
>Its totally fair to add tatum to the trade.
>W-we can move him again easily! W-we'll get an even better trade! S-surely someone will trade with da land s-soon....


Delusional cavs fans in currently in never ending damage control status

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>>77890850
lmao they literally never give up, almost as sad as lelker fishies

>>77890860
bro you're STILL here??? go to bed

usa-kun are you seeing this shit? hahaha

It'll be interesting to see where IT lands if the trade is voided. Struggling to see who would want a seriously injured PG on his final season on a contract. Pels for a second rounder pick swap maybe?

>>77890907
lmao I see it canada

>>77890944
pelicans already have jrue and rondo. maybe Orlando would want him

>>77890944
Hes on the Cleveland Cavaliers

>>77890850
just putting extra consonants in front of words doesn't make you right

>>77890944
I think they'd probably give him a buyout

>>77890960
I completely missed Rondo went to the Pels.

Maybe the Knicks? Although the name might be a barrier

>PG and jimmy butler aren't worth a single pick
>somehow thinks Kyrie is worth what turned out to be the #3 pick and a 2018 pick AND Isaiah thomas

is boston retarded? kyrie isn't even that good

>>77891126
of course they are, and they attract other retards in case you havent noticed

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>>77883132
http://www.nba.com/suns/press-release/brandon-knight-surgery-update-0
>JUST

>>77891151
it's not really much of a loss for the suns desu

>>77883462

Cavs don't need a backup PG, they have Rose and Calderon.

>>77889803
you forgot

>it and crowder refuses to report to camp because ainge is a snake

LMAO

>>77891151
this dude has a horrible contract and seems like a lou williams type chucker

>>77891126
Kyrie is younger and on a better contract than PG and Butler.

Crowder and the Nets pick would be just about fair in a vacuum, the problem is the Cavs need a PG.

Altman is the second coming of Hinkie

I'm ready for processkino

>>77891204
They have Rose and Calderon. They don't need a backup PG, they need a starting PG

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>>77891262
giv mudiay PG

>>77891262

Rose is a starting PG you dummy. I meant Rose starts and calderon backs him up

Ainge really fucked himself over by burning his bridges with IT. Cavs have advantage, I'm guessing this is done by Tuesday, late first added.

Ainge isn't stupid enough to add Jaylen or Tatum, he'd lose his job, I hope knows that. I'd lead the riot myself if he does.

>>77891337
>by burning his bridges with IT.
He never fucking burned bridges, he just traded him, that's not the same thing if IT just feels betrayed. There was no smear campaign or active effort to get him out. He was only part of a trade for only one of the best PGs in the game at a younger age with more control.

Not that I necessarily disagree with any of your points, but the "burned bridges with IT" thing is retarded.

>>77891358
Can you see him wearing Celtics green again? I can't. IT is an emotional guy, Ainge is a heartless bastard, it's the worse situation you can imagine.

I like Ainge results wise but in this new NBA I wish we had someone who could form relationships with players instead of treating them like cum rags after he's done with them

https://twitter.com/danielrainge/status/892577347240460288

I knew it was over when this little bitch Ainge said this

>>77891407
>Can you see him wearing Celtics green again? I can't.
I can, because he's a 28 year old going into a Free Agency year with a humongous injury concern.

He's still being paid somewhere on the range of $6M. If the Celtics buy him out, then he'd have to go somewhere far shittier that will only take him at vet minimum, because no one will paying even more for a guy that the Cavs say might be out for the year. And that would mean Isaiah would have to leave a Celtics system that is specifically catered to him, giving him the best opportunities to thrive. That would mean his play would inevitably decline elsewhere, and his FA payday won't be as big as he'd hope.

Add to the fact that Ainge has complete control. He doesn't have to buy him out. He can wait Isaiah out. It's on Isaiah to make his money next year, and sitting down and pouting will only harm himself in the future. So IT will HAVE to play if he doesn't get bought out to ensure that he can make some money next year.

Isaiah doesn't have any leverage. The ball is still in Danny's court. He'll begrudgingly have to play, and to the best of his ability if he wants to secure his financial future.

The next year isn't the downside for Ainge. It's the year after when IT walks for nothing, and Ainge is left with his dick in his hand knowing what little else to do. That's what should concern Celtics fans more. Not next year, but the year after.

>>77891459
nigga what the fuck is this essay making me go get my reading glasses and shit

>>77891459
>Ainge has complete control. He doesn't have to buy him out. He can wait Isaiah out. It's on Isaiah to make his money next year, and sitting down and pouting will only harm himself in the future.

That may be true but this is gonna fuck over future FA prospects

>>77891512
That could also be a potential issue, but that's a risk Ainge was willing to take when he first made the trade. And that held even with the newer events unfolding.

Trading a guy that bled for you and gave you everything, that played not even a day after his sister died, that made it very obvious he absolutely wanted to stay in Boston, was not particularly the best showing for FAs that Boston values loyalty.

>>77891459
I think Isaiah will be perfectly happy taking the chance with the vet minimum somewhere else. And I think at a certain point they'll give him a buy out rather than take the risk of pissing off agents and future FAs. At least with the trade, you can say, you know, we had to take a shot at Kyrie, it's just business. Punitively holding him back from a buyout is a whole other thing.

And also, more importantly, as you point out: Ainge is going to be left holding his dick in his hands vis-a-vis Isaiah unless he completes this trade right here. It's literally his only chance not to be left with nothing. He has to throw a pick or two in there.

>>77891590
>I think Isaiah will be perfectly happy taking the chance with the vet minimum somewhere else.
But why? Why go to a shittier team with a shittier system that may not be very good for your stats and playing ability? Especially when all the good teams already have point guards and probably aren't willing to take risks on an injured 28-year old tiny point guard.

That would be just the worst idea for him. I don't know; maybe he is that pissed off and bitter, but that's a pretty ridiculous and somewhat childish way to look at it if you're in his shoes.

>>77891337
How about the Cavs get the Clippers pick too?

Cavs then trade their pick, the Clippers pick and Shumpert to the Clippers for Pat Bev and filler (e.g. Dekker to make salaries match)

>>77891631
I think Isaiah believes in his own abilities as a player - that he's a good enough player to put up numbers wherever he goes if he's healthy. And I think he's right to do so. If he's healthy, he's a really good offensive player wherever he plays. If he's not healthy, he's not going to get paid regardless of where he plays. I don't think he's as system-dependent a player as you do. I think teams could easily find ways to work him in, and I think they'd be very willing to do so for the kind of performance that he can bring. The idea that someone who put up the offensive performance that Isaiah did last season wouldn't be able to find playing time somewhere seems kinda ludicrous.

And I think he's pretty fucking pissed at Boston, and reasonably so. That kind of stuff does play a role in most peoples' decisions, just in general in life.

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>>77891736

>pissed at boston

I mean, how angry could you be if they sent you away to play for a Championship Caliber team with LeBron?

>>77891906
They gave up on him. They essentially told him "you aren't good enough for us."

For a guy that's had to play against the odds his life, that's gotta be pretty fucking painful and infuriating.

>>77891095
I dont they'd care about his name, and they'd probably do it.

if they offered that for carmelo I think they'd definitely get him

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>>77891939

Yeah I mean they sent him off to play with LeBron, its not like they sent him to play with fucking Deangelo and the Nets. At least he is able to compete. I get "muh loyalty" theme but has he not seen the past couple years in the NBA? Loyalty means jack shit nowadays.

>wahh no free agents want to play for the best franchise in the league
fucking millennials fail to grasp that the league is a business. fuck off with that loyalty shit, you get what you earn and deserve. if you want to turn down money and prestige of playing in boston for some petty pride and self righteousness then don't be surprised if you don't get on other teams either for being a haughty demanding brat.

>Per @Chris Mannix on @CSNNE, #Celtics will draw line in sand. May part with a 2nd Rd pick to complete #Cavs deal. No firsts/Brown/Tatum.

Lmao

>>77891219
Even worse because he doesn't get anywhere near as hot shooting.

>>77891222
butlers contract is better, and he would compliment isiah greatly. the bulls would have taken the nets pick no problem

>>77891981
>money and prestige of playing in boston

lmao

anyway, whether you like it or not, I think IT cares about it

>>77891984
Good. Brown and Tatum need to learn from Prime Hayward and Kyrie who is about to hit his Prime. Maybe smart can learn a thing or two from kyrie

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don't mind me, just posting the 8th seed.

>>77891984
It's fun watching the negotiations happen in the press in real time. Note that Boston has now moved from "our offer is nothing" to "OK fine we'll give up a second rounder."

>>77892035
That means literally the same thing, 2nd rounders in the NBA are usually worthless.

>>77892004
The problem with complementing Isaiah is that it requires committing to Isaiah long term, which Danny clearly was not interested in doing.

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>Cletics sent a broken player
>2nd round pick

Time for negotiations to break down lol

>>77892053
Well, no, it's not literally the same thing. 2nd rounders don't have a lot of value, but being willing to give up anything at all is a departure from saying that you represented the injury completely accurately and the deal on the table is final. It's a negotiating position just like the earlier one was.

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>Houston flood and hurricane damage projected to be on par with Katrina

LMAO

>Shitston Cockshits

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>77892035
>>77892053
>>77892073
Not all 2nd rounders are bad apples. Players like Marc Gasol, Rashard Lewis, Anderson Varejao, hell even Danny Ainge himself were in the 2nd round

>>77892095

Watch Houston get to the finals somehow. Silver will make sure they at least get to the WCF

>>77892120
Watch your be a fucking idiot and post retarded shit.
Oh wait, just happened.

>>77892053

IT went in the 2nd round

>>77892084
>>77892111
>>77892129
>late 2nd rounders
>valuable
Just because like 4 players have been produced from it, doesn't mean that 2nd rounders are worth much normally.

>draft Chris Paul
>city gets hit with a hurricane
>Trade for Chris Paul
>city gets hit with a hurricane

See this??? Chris Paul is literally hurricane bait and a harbinger of natural disasters and injury.

>>77892111
You can find good players in the second round but 2nd round draft picks aren't very valuable as assets. You can literally buy 2nd round picks for cash.

>>77892120
The Rockets have a really good chance to get to the WCF regardless? they're almost certainly going to be one of the top 3 teams in the WC. I know everyone here thinks that they're definitely going to lose because of Harden And CP3 Are Mentally Weak Chokers but like... that isn't actually a thing that exists.

>>77892169
Rockets aren't even top 4. You're retarded.

>>77892190
which teams do you think are in the top four

>>77892190
The top 5 teams in the NBA are:
1. GSW
2. CLE/BOS
3.CLE/BOS
4. OKC/SAS
5. OKC/SAS
This is implying the kyrie trade goes down

>>77892201
Warriors
Spurs
OKC
Timberwolves
And if Jokic lives up to the hype and they replicate their off. rating from last year plus better defense they're definitely a better version of last year's Rockets and the Rockets this year aren't even much of an improvement from last year plus every team in the league knows how to game plan again them now.

WAIT A SECOND

JIMMY BUTLER'S ACTUAL FIRST NAME IS JIMMY? NOT JAMES, BUT LITERALLY JIMMY, WTF

>>77892260
Jimmy-kun!

>>77892260
Jimmy G Buckets
The G stands for Gets

>>77892302
STEP BACK, AND KISS MY-SELF

BIG TIME PLAYERS MAKE BIG TIME PLAYS WOO!

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>>77892124

>t. Assblasted cockshit fag

Sorry your team is going to need silverball to get anything done. Hope you got flood insurance

>>77892312
big time players, come up in big games! das all i got to say

wtf? how is a cokcshit fan posting here right now? i thought all people in houston were standing on top of their homes begging to be saved from the hurricane...obviously a falseflag

>>77892204
>boston
>better than san antonio or OKC

they would be 6th seed in the west

it's not a hurricane, it's a Houston rockets practice that's destroying everything. Like they're going to destroy every team in the league.

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>LGBTLD on suicide watch
>pb on suicide watch
>actual basketball discussion

Today is a good day

>>77892357
They're just as good as the Jazz last year. So they're at least 5th seed.

>>77892135
>like 4

>>77892397

west got better though, so probably 6th seed

OKC is a 40 win team lmao

>>77892406
Name me over 20 great 2nd rounders of the last 10 years.

Go.

>>77892030
Lopez + Randle seems like an horrible fit at first but then you realize that Lopez is one of the best at boxing out in the league, and having Randle, Ingram or Ball starting the break is probably better than wasting 3 seconds of Lopez getting the board and looking someone to pass to

It's either gonna be amazing or a huge disappointment, seems to always go that way in LA

>>77892385
this is /nba/ not nfl...you 99 cent store trips need to stop shitposting

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You're going to need better b8 if you wanna fish a (You) out of me.

>>77892432
Totally not a cherry-picked timeframe at all.

>>77892459
In what way is it a cherry pick?

It's a focused sample size.

I could say name over 100 great 2nd rounders of all time, but that would take you far more time.

10 years keeps the pool small enough that you don't have to waste time naming names, but big enough that you get a decent sample size to work with.

Guess you don't want to though.

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who's gonna be the alpha? will it work??

>>77892494
Make it 20 and you got a deal

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DO YOUR DANCE YB DO YOUR DANCE

DO YOUR DANCE YB DO YOU YOUR DANCE

>>77892432
Malcom Brogdon
Jordan Clarkson
Nikola Jokic
Jae Crowder
Draymond Green
Khris Middleton
Chandler Parsons
Isaiah Thomas
Hassan Whiteside
Lance Stephenson
Patty Mills
Danny Green
Patrick Beverly
Deandre Jordan
Goran Dragic
Marc Gasol
Glen Davis
Mario Chalmers
Jodie Meeks
Omer Asik
Luc Mbah a Moute

I JUST WON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! AND THIS IS MY FIRST POST IN THIS THREAD DONT @ ME

i decided that the fantasy league ill be running will be 12-14 people

>>77892534
>Nikola Jokic
>Draymond Green
>Lance Stephenson

>>77892534
10/10

>>77892534

Half of this list is systembabby trash. Only good players are Whiteside, M. Gasol, Middleton and Jokic

>>77892494
>I could say name over 100 great 2nd rounders of all time, but that would take you far more time.
Assuming you're >>77892135, you're now admitting there's been more than a handful of worthwhile 2nd-rounders?

>but big enough that you get a decent sample size to work with.
That's also another thing. We don't even know if many of the 1st-rounds from the past four years (excluding '17) will end up being worthwhile players, let alone the 2nd-rounders.

>>77892534
Well, nvm. This guy seems like he's kinda on the money.

>>77892251
You do realize that they actually were the 3rd seed last year, right? By like 4 games? And I don't care how much you dislike Chris Paul. A team that replaces Patrick Beverley with Chris Paul has improved. What a bizarre position to take - that the 3rd seed in the Western Conference added Chris Paul and somehow got much worse.

I could see OKC being better than them. I think Houston is still a little better than them, but that's possible. But it's really hard to see Minnesota being better than them - I like Minnesota, but they have a lot of roster turnover, they're going to have real spacing problems, and they still have a lot of young players who have never played real defense. Let alone Denver - I love their front court but that roster doesn't make a lick of sense.

>>77892565
take the L

>>77892565
>Jokic
thought this meme died at the beginning of the summer. pls stop.

Don't use my post as shitposting ammounation or ill shoot u ...

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>2nd round players are basically chump change lol!!!1!1!1!1!1
>One anon names a handful of successful 2nd rounders
>Ok well like there's not that MANY good 2nd rounders
>Another anon makes a hefty list of notable 2nd rounders
>Ok well like only 4 of those players are good
>mfw

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>>77892615

>>77892581

>Take the L

De'Andre Jordan is avreage as fuck and will be exposed
Danny Green went to shit after he left SA
>le blow in LeBron's ear man
Clarkson is trade bait at best
Chandler Parsons fell off a fucking cliff after he left Houston

And I dont even have to name the rest.

>>77892633
L

>>77892598
he averaged 19.1 points, 10.8 rebounds, and 5.6 assists after December.

>>77892633
L

>>77892633
L

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>>77892639
>>77892646
>>77892647

Not an arguement

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>this /nfl/ fag spamming the general
my thread theme when I add you to the pb, stay shook tbqh

https://youtu.be/g2N0TkfrQhY?t=3m35s

>>77892421
I think they will be a little bit better than that...but understand this absolute truth, george is leaving to LA unless they make the WCF....so I feel bad for westbrook, its a tough decision

>>77892665
L

>>77892665
L

>>77892665
Cherry picking players and calling others pure systembabbies isn't much of one either

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>he thinks he can censor me like reddit or jewgle

Looks like you need to go back paco

>>77892692

Tell me ONE good thing any of those players besides the ones i've named to be good have done other than be lucky to be on good teams. I'll wait.

>>77892615
There's maybe 1 or 2 good second round picks every year. That's like 7% of all second round picks in a given year

>>77892703
Dragic has put up numbers on mediocre to bad teams.

Also, Isaiah Thomas was the best player on the Celtics last year. It's not like the team was good because of Al Horford.

>>77892726
The person most at fault here is probably the person who was acting like you can't find good players in the second round

Will Brook Lopez be a big part of the Lakers offense?

>>77892762
That's not me, I'm not arguing there are no good second round picks, I'm just saying it's much more unlikely to get one therefore their value is lower

>>77892748

>statpadding on average teams

Yeah, really an accomplishment...Rudy Gay MCWJR and Tyreke Evans would like words with you

Demarcus Cousins WILL be available at the trade deadline, if anyone wants an elite center for cheap

>>77892775
yeah I think most people basically agree with all of that, the conversation just got to this weird place

is the discord meme about making beats real? can i join? i wanna talk to some bros about production techniques ;_;

>>77892791
So being good on average teams doesn't make you good enough, and being good on good teams doesn't make you good enough

what exactly are you looking for here to prove someone's a good player

>>77892840
You need to fill out an application when the next round of recruits starts in september. The council views them and then selects a couple people for tests.

Make sure to learn an instrument.

>>77892791
are you autistic?

Kobe has a 6 incher

>>77892880
same

>>77892703
>Malcom Bronson
2017 ROY, 2017 All-NBA Rookie Team, 2016 ACC Player of the year
>Jordan Clarkson
Ok I'll give you this one. The only notable thing he's acheieved so far is a spot on the 2015 NBA All-rookie team
>Jae Crowder
2012 Big East POY, 2010 NABC POY, 2010 NJCAA D1 Champion
>Draymond Green
2x NBA Champion, 2x NBA All-Star, 2017 DPOY, 3x NBA All-Defensive team, 2017 NBA steals leader, 2012 NABC POY, 2012 BIG 10 POY
>Khris Middleton
I'll give you this one too. There's nothing really noteworthy for him.
>Chandler Parsons
2011 SEC POY, 2011 All-SEC team
>Isaiah Thomas
2x NBA All-Star, 2017 All-NBA 2nd team, 2x PAC 10 Tournament MVP (On a side note, I met the mother of a basketball player who used to play with IT when he was at Washington.)

>>77892849

Being good on a team that goes nowhere doesnt mean anything, it just means you were the best player on a shit team. Nothing more. If that was the case parity would never be an issue inthe NBA. And being fortunate to be drafted into a good franchise like the Spurs doesnt make you good either, it just means you can play in a rigid system that asks you to sacrifice your identity to contribute to the team effort. Ask Danny Green or Matt Bonner how that worked for them.

Point is none of these players are franchise level players or even All-Star caliber. (Sans Drayboon but thats another story) They are good pieces, yes but if The Celtics are going to pull this shit with the Cavs I can definately see the Cavs pulling out. Why take a future second round middling piece that will be a question mark until 4-5 years in instead of asking for a rookie with much more talent and potiential? Especially after the Celtics tried to pawn off their IR guard like he was a stallion. Fuck that

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>Jae Crowder
>2012 Big East POY, 2010 NABC POY, 2010 NJCAA D1 Champion
>Chandler Parsons
>2011 SEC POY, 2011 All-SEC team
>unironically posting irrelevant NCAA stats

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>this is supposed to help LePopcorn stop the Warriors

>>77892916

The only player that has done anything on this list is IT, and how long did it take for him to reach that level??? And even now people are saying its a one season fluke. He was good on the Kings but dude really came out of nowhere last season.

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Stop posting John Wall, you aren't even a Wizard fan

>>77892095
Houston has money unlike New Orleans

>>77892928
It's stupid to act like second round players are only useful if they're legitimate franchise players. You need players like Jae Crowder to win championships. It's stupid to denigrate them because they're not All-NBA.

I agree that second round picks are not valuable assets, and the Cavs should ask for more, I'm just saying don't also get it twisted and act like there's not value to be found in the second round if you're a smart team that's good at scouting.

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>Stop posting John Wall, you aren't even a Wizard fan

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>>77892385
>pb
you are arguing with an imitator, probably mary, please apply yourself better...

>>77892969

I never said that either, I acknowledge the value of 2nd round but if your expecting the Cavs to want to do more scouting reports for some randon that might not even pan out because managemnt doesnt have the balls to step up and not get fleeced is bullshit. Especially after Lebron leaves next year

boston will send brown. cap this

>>77892988
They better not

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>Houston has money unlike New Orleans

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>boston will send brown. cap this

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>LGBTLD
>pb on suicide watch

/nba/ will never be the same

>>77892575
They didn't replace Patrick Beverley, they moved a hugely successful Harden from PG back to SG. They now have an inferior defender on Beverley's assignments, gutted their bench (mostly concerned with the lost trade value), and lost a 1st round pick. They may very well get worse seeding wise

>>77892988
One of the biggest jew GMs will send a top 3 pick that's a hot prospect for no reason just because some peon is trying to extort him? nah

XXXTENTACION ALBUM IS FIRE!!!! HE REALLY DID IT

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>can't even pass a basic test about diatonic theory
>resorts to gimmicks

listen if you want to talk about basketball im here, keep up this nonsense and im heading back to the LD and locking it, gosh darn it, ive just about had it

>>77893011
Defensively, presumably they're going to put CP3 on Beverley's assignments. Which is a downgrade but CP3 is a good guard defender.

Offensively, there's some risk that they won't figure out but in principle, if they can find a way to make it work, having CP3 at point guard and Harden at SG would be extremely good. Moving Harden back to SG to accomodate CP3 is not going to destroy their offense. That is a good offensive move. I don't know what else to tell you. Harden is very good at playing shooting guard.

Also don't tell me that losing a first round pick is going to make them a worse team next year. Ridiculous. Don't be a bad idiot.

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>back into the LGBTLD

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>>77892505

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>LGBTLD

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Everyone here is mentally ill

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>LGBTLD

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>LGBTLD

>get a smoke signal about a new post
>check thread
>nothing there

deliver us serenity
deliver us peace

>>77893075
>>77893061
I don't know who the fuck you are. No disrespect tho kid keep hustling and stay in school.

What pills are best for dying in your sleep?

>>77893084
Is that what gowiz takes

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>LGBTLD
>LGBTPB

>>77893093
the lebron pill

>>77893093
Ambien and a nice glass of whiskey.

me and gw's bro play csgo all the time, yall need to let the man live, he's a good kid for christ's sake

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>>77893100
>Scott Brooks is gonna make Otto Porter the Nxt Kevin Durant

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>LGBTLD

Friendly reminder that your team did not trade away its Multi All Star selected player for an athletic guard that is coming off an ACL injury. An "old" second year PG that could not win the starting job even when his old team was trying to push the guy in front of him out the door. And the 7th pick in an 8 player deep draft which ended up being not one of those cornerstones but a lanklet from Finland. And they gave the team their own first rounder in the process.

So you know. If your team had a poor offseason it was not the worst offseason. Be glad about that!

>3 years later and this guy still obsesses over a tripfag that stopped posting a year ago

Living
In
Your
Head
Rent
Free

>>77893061
https://archive.4plebs.org/sp/search/image/3VWh86-LhSSlBdQUQuPO8Q/
>image only posted 5 times on /sp/ in the last 9 months
>us and new zealand flag

really makes you think

like i said new zealand should be on everyone's pb

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>LGBTLD

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>>77893124
the fact that gowiz and 7kt are STILL talked about amazes me, the fucking autism of this one guy just won't give up, it haunts him everyday...

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>LGBTPB

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We
___On
______An
________Ultralight
_______________Beam

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>>77893157

>LGBTUB

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>>77893157
This is a Westgod dream

Time to stop guys. This isn't /nba/ related.

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>Time to stop guys. This isn't /nba/ related.

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I'm tryna keep my faith
But I'm looking for more
Somewhere I can feel safe
And end my holy war

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This is everything

>>77890798
IT was done in Boston the minute word got out he wanted a max contract

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hows that XXXtention coming along?

So did Melo decide wtf he wants to do yet? I have this strange feeling that IT4 will be shipped in a package to the Knicks.

>>77893207
OK. Sure.

This is their one opportunity to get a replacement for him. That's why they're going to throw in at least one first rounder.

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2 years ago a friend of mine ax me to say some MC rhymes

>>77893221
I can't really see that happening unless the Cavs throw in something else with Kyrie

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The buddha monk's in your trunk, turn the bass up
Not stories by Aesop
Place your loot up, parties I shoot up
Nas, I analyze, drop a jew-el, inhale from the L
School a fool well, you feel it like Braille
It ain't hard to tell, I kick a skill, like Shaquille holds a pill
Vocabulary spills, I'm Ill plus Matic
I freak beats, slam it, like Iron Sheik
Jam like a TEC with correct techniques
So analyze me, surprise me, but can't magmatize me
Scannin' while you're plannin' ways to sabotage me
I leave 'em froze, like heroin in your nose
Nas will rock well; it ain't hard to tell

>>77884923
>You have to think Harris is getting dealt.
I really hope >we keep him. He's the perfect guy for playing next to Jokic, and they're both only 22. Harris cuts well, shoots well, defends well. A good comparison is Avery Bradley, except trade some D for O, except Harris is playing at that level now, not at Bradley's age.

I still believe Murray can be a full-time point guard next to Harris, who's a good handler for a SG, and Jokic, who you want to put the ball in his hands. My hopes for the SF situation is that Juancho is able to become quick enough to defend there, because he can more than play offense there.

>>77891298
his value is basically a 2nd rounder at this point. Just give >us whatever extra you get from the Celtics for the IT trade.

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>>77893256
based be the alliance

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ITT: we write a rap lyrics that i may or may not record later depending on my weaponized autism

one line at a time

I'll start:

>They say to not let your memes be dreams

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>LGBTLD: the autism strikes back

I mean how can one underage autistic take over a general and turn it to complete shit and everyone just nods and agrees? This is cuck shit /nba/

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>>77893281
>81
not so fast fake laker fag

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Foot on the Devil's neck 'til it drifted Pangaea
I'm moving all my family from Chatham to Zambia

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>using Discord for anything
>using pb to filter posts

Stay cucked /nba/

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>285 posts
>47 posters

>>77893268
>Harry is a passable tranny, dick popping at the seams

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Girl you looks good, won't you back that ass up
You's a fine motherfucker, won't you back that ass up
Call me big daddy when you back that ass up
Girl who is you playing with, back that ass up

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>Ainge hasn't burned bridges they say
>IT playing as the Cavs and beating the Celtics ass

lmao you neva neva lern /nba/

>>77893268
>>77893309

>they say harry is a massive faggot, I tend to agree
>balls in his mouth stroking on a cock is where he wants to be

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>>77893317
We on an ultralight beam
We on an ultralight beam
This is a God dream
This is a God dream
This is everything
Everything

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how long till taytay visits a OKC game ?

>>77893245
I just can't see the Celtics being willing to let the Cavs void the deal rather than throwing in another first rounder.

>>77893262
I like Harris, I just think that Harris and Murray play the same position and Murray is better. I just don't believe that Murray is ever going to be an actual point guard. I just tihnk it's always going to be awkward.

And I don't think Juancho is going to get to the point where you can start him consistently as a SF. at the very least I wouldn't count on it.

>>77893337
Her new video has 9.000.000 views in just 5 hours what the fuck

>>77893359
It's a really shit song too.

>>77893370
The lyrics are pretty interesting, /pol/ is losing their minds with conspiracy theories

that whts swift gets for messing with my boi john mayer desu senpai bam

>>77893340
>Murray is better.
Not right now. But, I think Murray has Steph's kind of shooting in him, and you can't let that go. I think both are going to become excellent players, and if they do play in the same position, then hopefully any trade deal involving one of the two will bring back a huge return.

Regardless, I don't see starting both as a huge issue. Jokic will play the point for 30+ minutes every night for the Nugs for the next 6 years, and a backup actual point guard can play the rest. Meanwhile, Harris and Murray can both play well as athletic off-ball cutters and shooters.

And I'm not really hedging my bets on Juancho either, it's more hope than expectation. But young guys are moldable. Regardless, the Nugs do need a quality SF, and there's room in FA, and a lot of their assets are very movable and valuable for certain teams. I'd like to think playing next to Jokic will be a pull for stars, but I guess that depends on how well Millsap does next to him as a test case.

why is the melon hating on our guy?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ci62GfOm-t8

>>77893359
the power of cute

>>77893422
Fantano doesn't like new era of meme rappers. He's an old school trap influenced beats type of meme rap lover.

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I've been fucked over, left for dead, dissed and forgotten
Luck ran out, they hoped that I'd be gone, stiff and rotten
Y'all just piss on me, shit on me, spit on my grave (uh)
Talk about me, laugh behind my back but in my face
Y'all some "well wishers," friendly acting, envy hiding snakes
With your hands out for my (you)s man, how much can I take?
When these streets keep calling, heard it when I was sleep
That this Gay-ry and LGBT discord wanted beef
Started cocking up my weapon, slowly loading up this ammo
To explode it on a camel, and his soldiers, I can handle
This for dolo and it's manuscript, just sound stupid
When 7kt already made shitposts the Blueprint
First, hinkie's ya man, then you got the nerve to say that you better than Hink
Dick sucking lips, why not you let the late, great veteran live

i wanna suck kobe's 15 inch nigger dick with my small mexican mouth

>>77893523
>mexican
pls explain what you meant by this lmao

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Y'all niggas deal with emotions like bitches
What's sad is I love you 'cause you're my brother
You traded your soul for riches
My child, I've watched you grow up to be famous
And now I smile like a proud dad, watching his only son that made it
You seem to be only concerned with dissing trips
Were you abused as a child, scared to smile, they called you ugly?
Well life is hard, hug me, don't reject me
Or make records to disrespect me, blatent or indirectly
In '15 you was getting chased through your building
Calling my crib and I ain't even give you my numbers
All I did was gave you a style for you to run with
Smiling in my face, glad to break bread with the god
Wearing Wiz chains, no (you)s, no memes, no anons
No discord Harry, no fans , no case
Just Stephen Curry shirts, posting like you were eight
You a fan, a phony, a fake, a pussy, a Stan
I still whip your ass, you thirty-six in a Discord chat
You Online hoe, tryna' work it out, you tryna' get brolic?
Ask me if I'm tryna' kick knowledge
Nah, I'm tryna' kick the shit you need to learn though
That ether, that shit that make your soul burn slow
Is he Favela poster, Br tranny or a Dumb Monkey?
Oh, I get it, you Biggie and he's Puffy
Reddit died of AIDS, that was the end of their chapter
And that's the shit y'all chose to model your PB after?
Put it together, I rock hoes, y'all rock fellas
And now y'all try to take my spot, fellas?
Philly's hot rock fellas, put you in a dry spot, fellas
In a pine box with nine shots from my glock, fellas
Anons got you hot 'cause you kept your face in their puss
What you think, you getting (you)s now 'cause of your looks?
Ne-gro please
You no mustache having, with whiskers like a rat
Compared to 7kt you wack
And your man stabbed Wiz and made you take the blame
You ass, went from spamming curry to hanging with Clips
And, favelaposter murdered you on your own shit
You a dick-riding faggot, you love the attention
LA niggas run you niggas, ask all of my mentions

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First off, fuck 7kt and the broship you claim
WL when we ride, come equipped with game
You claim to be a autist, but I fucked your life
We bust on moo crew, niggas fucked for life
Plus, gowiz tryna see me, weak hearts I rip
7kt and LGBTLD. is some mark-ass bitches
We keep on comin' while we runnin' for your memes
Steady gunnin', keep on bustin' at them fools, you know the rules
PB, go ask your homie how I'll leave ya
Cut your young-ass up, leave you in pieces, now be deceased

>>77893529
soy mexicano

This guy spamming lyrics is on the deepest level of autism

>>77893540
why would you bathe your feet in ocd tears

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>>77893545
>soy
you vegan?