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Connor won ....

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It doesnt matter what the actual outcome is, this guy has barely been in the ring and jumped straight to the end game boss on veteran difficulty. Connor has blown up in popularity and the finacial return is immense.

Mayweather beat a scrub so what? Connor went nine rounds against golaith.
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Nigga he went like 2 rounds at best the first 8 were just Mayweather memeing
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They robbed him of 2 rounds

He didn't even go down and they stopped the fight

What happened to counting to 10? WTF
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40 year old boxer coming out of retirement for the second time?
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A 5-rounder lasting 10 boxing rounds is quite a feat.
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>>77856012
Considering Mayweather is a joke, it makes sense
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WHITES BTFO
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what? floyd gave him early rounds on purpose, they had to pretend to give paying customers a show >>77856012 exactly
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>>77855839
Lmao he got ran down by a 40 year old man much smaller than him. Floyd looked slow af and still was too much
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mayweather's not 50-0 for no reason

even when he clearly had the upper hand for the latter 8 rounds, he never opened himself up to getting finished. ever.
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>>77856079
>what are TKOs
Spotted the UFCfag
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>>77855839
Yeah an end game boss that based his style on breaking the rhythm by spoiling and had borken hands and was at the tail end of his career, on top of that he was smaller than the irishman
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>>77856258
>tko's
sounds like refball

>all time legend needing ref to beat a first-time fighter
welp
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>>77855839
0-1
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>>77856079
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knockout#Technical_knockout

boludo
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>>77856012

Hue, it doesn't matter. This was a money grab by promoters who tricked stupid LCD people into taking sides and gettign riled up for a joke fight. The winner is all involved in the fight, the loser is the viewer who paid money to be duped. You are all too stupid to live if you gave even one penny to this scam.
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>>77856012
The round number stands, if Mayweathers win counts, this counts.
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MMA
IS
NOT
A
SPORT

MMA BTFO FOREVER
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>>77856079
biased ref, wouldn't be surprised if the fight was actually fucking rigged the ref was clearly manipulating the fight making sure things were going how they were supposed to and ensuring Connor couldn't catch his breath in an easy MMA clinch
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>>77856368
Yeah if you want to have brain damage go to UFC, ref did the right thing for Mcgregors health we dont need Mcmeme diyng for punches and extre dehydratation
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>>77856079
>can't even stand up straight
>can't defend himself
>literally looks like he's about to die

The ref was just saving Conor from unnecessary brain damage.
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>>77855839
This is in fact how casuals will look at this instead of actually watching the fight. Mayweather was just punking him because fans were mad at how the pacman fight went down.
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When will white people just accept that they are inferior?
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>>77855839
he literally had the ref stop the fight, he didnt lose
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lmao it's so obvious mcgregor expected to get owned and hes buzzing that he went that long
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Anyone who doesn't think Connor won should see this post-match interview, it's twice the length of Floyd's and the audience is cheering like crazy.

Homie lost the fight, but is clearly on an upward trajectory.
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>>77856537
>about to die
>doesn't even fall to the ground
>known to have taken far worse beatings in his career
doesn't compute
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>>77856465
This. I watched it for the personality, didnt pay a penny.
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>>77856394
t.pussy fake knockout so manlets can save face and pretend they can actually knockout
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>>77856544
floyd lost, get over it, some nigger retard ref stopped it because he's a dumb nigger
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Best post fight interview from McGregor.

How can you not like this bloke?
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>>77856242
old man strength is real mang
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This. Ref was pocketed some change and was told to stop the fight when it looked convenient.
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PLEASE DADDY LET ME GET BEAT THE FUCK OUT FOR TWO MORE ROUNDS EARLY STOPPAGE DADDY I WANTED MORE UHH UH HHHH UHHHHHH
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>>77855839
>yfw McGregor actually won
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Reminder that Mayweather fights like a coward, got a fake win against Pacman, and won this fight by running away like a bitch baby until Conor was tired so he could beat up a tired man. Coward's way to a fake win.
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What? Mayweather also beat some of the best in boxing as well. He's just a complete fighter overall.
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>>77856721
>bait this obvious

k
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rigged af
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>>77856685
You see his paycheck? it was win win no matter the outcome.
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>>77856743
Stuck at work. What'd he say?
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ITT: People who don't know how boxing works
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>>77856517
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>>77855839
Anyone who paid money for this is retarded
The only people who won were Floyd, Connor,and Showtime. I'm happy for Connor though he got paid more for this fight then he will the rest of his MMA career.
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>>77855839
Yes, he won by losing.
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>>77856778

the ref was clearly told to do as little as possible or he would have deducted points for all the hammerfist back of the head shit. no other fighter would have gotten away with that without a point deduction
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>>77856544
True. But it still stands. If his win against a scrub counts to 50-0, then this counts for Connor. Either this win is an asterik for Floyd, or Connor gets props.
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This is your reminder that MMA is not a sport, it will never be a sport. Tonight forever sealed the fate of that simulated gay prison rape pseudo sport.

MMA = Not a sport.
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As soon as Mayweather warmed up he raped the irish cunts anus.
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>>77856743
Conor's a faggot and always has been, shame they didn't let Floyd lay his ass out onto Dana's lap like the irish terrier he is.
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first BLACKED, now GASSED?
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>>77856544
Kys stupid ass. Mayweather clearly lost.
>Casuals
My fucking god is there a more Reddit term?
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>>77856882
this
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>>77856213
Whitey would have destroyed him in the octagon, first round.
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>>77856258
there's the same in UFC
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>>77857014
How does a stolen fight with a refball decision seal anything? He didn't even go down once.
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>>77856966
Yeah, seriously, I'm surprised Conor didn't get a single point deducted for all those hammerfists.

If anything, the ref was too nice to him.
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>>77855839
Ahh theres that delusion I was waiting for from the mcmemer dick riders.

W/e you have to tell yourself to get through that beating is ok with me, i could only imagine how hurt those buttcheeks are right now.
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This shows MMA as a sport requires more talent than boxing. This is only a portion of Connors skills compared to what he could really do. Boxing is for brain-dead niggers and spics and you should feel bad for liking it.
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>>77856721
first BLACKED, now GASSED?
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>>77857014
Fucking kek
>rigged as fuck sport where you can only use your hands covered with big fucking pillow gloves
>sport where blood is shed because it's bare fists and bare legs and actual combat
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>>77857209
Octagon when?

Oh wait....
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>>77856527
Are you high? Connor threw 20+ shots to the back of the head even after multiple warnings, threw punches during ref seperation. Was not penalized at all.

The ref let mcgregor get away with too much shit AND stopped the fight before he was about to get knocked out saving him from humiliation and brain damage.
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Boxing is such a pussy ass sport. Ref has way too much influence.
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>>77856134

so now UFC moves to /asp/? that was the deal, right?
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Prepare to hear all the mma suckers shit on boxing for no reason
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>>77857290
Nice proxy, spic. Keep pretending.
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>>77857014
In boxing McGregor had a shot and actually went 9 rounds.
In MMA Mayweather wouldn't last 15 seconds.,
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Which is more impressive?

Coming back at 40 years old to beat a man 12 years your younger or lasting 10 rounds against one of the greatest fighters of all time at his own game?
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>>77857361
see >>77857290
fuck mcnigger almost elbowed him
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>>77857290
If you don't wanna get hit in the back of the head don't fucking turn around when you're fighting someone.
Just Floyd being a dirty pussy faggot like always I guess.
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>>77856079
>literally falling into the refs arms
Connorfags plz
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>>77856799
So what was Mayweather to do? Let him land shots and get knocked out because you want potato boy to win
Grow up
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>>77857014
MMA is more entertaining, more technical and a culmination of the worlds best fighting techniques. Boxing is bullshit, fake fighting. Sad.
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Man /pol/ is gonna be BTFO so hard

Non-stop threads on the way
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>>77856988
I don't think anyone that knows boxing will see this as a true win. Floyd was in poor form tonight and McConnor was literally amateur level. This was a money grab on both sides and it worked.

>>77857049
k
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>>77857545
Why? Trumps guy won
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>>77857449
mcgregor really should have been practicing his endurance against a defensive guy like mayweather

the hubris in his belief that he'd fuck up mayweather at his own game in the early rounds was what ended the match before it even began
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Did Conor actually think he could come back? He could barely keep his hands up.
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>>77857613
But muh whites and muh blacks anon
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>>77857613
white inferiority
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>>77857209
I never thought Connor would win. I like the guy and wanted him to get that cheddar. But Floyd was always gonna win.
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>>77857522
Oh, so you admit that Floyd knew he couldn't beat Conor in his prime so he had to tire him out to stand a chance? My point stands. A coward's way to win, just like his fake win against Pac who is actually the best boxer in the world.
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>>77857449
Old men have beaten younger men in boxing in the past.

Its more impressive to cut off everyone else and take the fight to one of the greatest of all time. Mayweathers still a bitch though
>>77857488
this
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Is anyone seeing this corner camera shit?

>McGregor corner
-This is going pretty great. Alright, first you've gotta keep him at a distance, make sure you get that jab working and the counter going. Breathe deep for me, get that energy back. Now, next time out there fire off a little early. Keep him on the back foot. GOT IT NOW GIVE IT TO HIM.

>Mayweather's
>Whenever you want, just end it man.

In MMA do the fighters get to talk to their trainers between rounds?
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>>77855839
THEY SHOULD MAKE A MOVIE ABOUT THIS

OH WAIT
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>>77855839
DAMAGE CONTROL
DAMAGE CONTROL
DAMAGE CONTROL
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>>77857427
Proxy? Nah. I'm a white American you dumbass.

>>77857458
Not only an elbow, but he punched mcgregor after the bell.

The ref was shit on both sides but mayweather only had 1 foul compared to an entire fight worth of mcgregor.
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>"""""""""defensive fighter"""""""""""
Code word for a coward
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>>77857224
The Mayweather we saw tonight is not the usualy Mayweather we see in boxing. He came forward and acted more aggressively, throwing lots of punches, because he wanted to knock Conner out badly. Mayweather never ever ever fights like that. So really, Conner went 10 rounds with a past-prime veteran who was fighting a style he hasn't fought for 15 years
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>>77857545
Go ahead little nigger. I'll make sure to report every last one.
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>>77857745
This.
>>77857522
Fucking fight, its just a points match for him, use all you can to avoid taking hits like ducking so he can't hit from above. Give light taps then run away so you don't get hit.
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>>77855839
except it was embarrassing that him being in the peak of his physique with more than 15 lbs over his opponent could get stopped by someone just fresh off retirement who hasn't even knocked out anyone in over a decade
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>>77857575
You'll always be a reddit Nigger, so fuck off back there, john.
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>>77857613
It's a win win either way. While the negroes champion Floyd, let us feed them his Trump support.
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Does anyone have a pic of the corona girl standing awkwardly at the end?

She was really cute.
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>>77857488
Illegal shots are illegal shots dumbass.
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>>77857720
>amateur boxer gets to round 10 against the best boxer in the world
>inferior
kek
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>>77856537
>literally looks like he's about to die
We was fatigued but hardly on death's door
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the /pol/ butthurt is amazing, I hope mayweather comes out of retirement to fight against another white dude sometime.
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>>77856693
he couldn't stand straight anymore, every one of his punches didn't even tickle mayweather. All it took mayweather was another uppercut to kill the connor. They stopped beforehand because it was unnecessary as people with a long boxing experience knew that when someone who hasn't landed a good punch in 4 rounds can't stand properly against a rival who keeps is composure, the former is doomed.
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>>77856079
First boxing match you've watched?
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>>77856693
i dont think he has.. and even so, is that what youre supposed to compare it to to determine? mcgregor was clearly wobbly and not defending himself. ufc fans are biased because usually guys get tko'd on the floor there
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>>77856799
were you watching the same fight? Normally he's the hugger, but Connor McHugger did it this time just to stay alive
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>>77857575
It was a win for Connor though. This man, a boxing scrub, challenged golaith, and in doing so launched himself to super star status. The money helps too.
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>>77857922
You're a nigger rooting for a nigger. Kill yourself.

I'd love to see Floyd in an Octagon.
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>>77856685
no shit, Mayweather's post-match is retirement
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>>77857419
underrated
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>muh black superiority meme
Reminder that the best boxer in the world is Filipino and the best MMA fighter is white. Niggers utterly destroyed.
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>>77857977
k
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Mcgreggor knew he'd get beaten. He clearly went in to try go the 12 rounds than bet on his best hope of trying to finish quick in a way most similar to MMA at the risk of getting knocked out at 5.

He'll feel he failed purely because his game plan failed and he wasnt even anticipating to win. On note though his salesman skills worked amazingly. He can retire in the most luxury he wants for the rest of his life purely on a debut fight.
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>>77856778
mcgregor would have lost the decision or probably got stopped later anyway...
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>>77857838
>In MMA do the fighters get to talk to their trainers between rounds?

Yes. If your trainers are not coaching you during an mma fight you should not be paying them.
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>>77857647
But Mayweather wasn't defensive this fight. He should have realized that something was up and he was conserving energy/trying to tire him out when Floyd only threw 10 punches total in the first two rounds.
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>>77858038
floyd is not top 50 in the world any more
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>>77857545
Basically this.>>77857935
Keep the sports to /sp/
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>>77857419
Yes and since Jon Jones purposely got popped Roiding to duck Brock and /WWE/ vs /Heem/ is off /WWE/ gets to come back due to Floyd being a future WWE hall of famer.
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>>77857935
>mfw /pol/ has become a safe space for stormfags
the irony
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>>77857448
Yes, but there's no money in MMA. Floyd is making hundreds of millions at 40 years old.
Why get paid to get beat up and bloodied?
Boxing is a sport that takes lifetimes to perfect there are rules in place specific to the sport just like MMA.
Good bragging by the amateur to get a big payday but he was never going to beat Floyd at his game. You could probably give him a rematch in a year and he'd still lose.
>Muh MMA is superior because hugging
>Floyd literally fights every single one of the best fighters for the best part of 2 0 years and beat them all.
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To all the people shitting on the TKO rule, remember that a lot of people have died boxing so its a way to prevent a tragedy
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>>77858032
So the ultimate boxing strategy is to crawl around head first looking at the ground on the mat until the opponent gets fed up, hits you, and DQ's themself?
Or any time you're getting fucking rocked you can just turn around because lmao muh illegal shots can't touch me.

Brilliant sport, truly.
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I hope they become best friends.
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>MMAfags on suicide watch that a 40 year old retired small boxer kicks the MMAgoat's ass
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>>77858327
BUT MUH GLOVES AND NO GRAPPLING MMA IS MORE REAL
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>>77857948
But he's not a pro boxer ...
nigga I can whip up some spicy memes in paint but it doesnt mean I can recreate the mona lisa by brush.
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>>77858286
sjwhites
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Boxing doesn't match with UFC. Conor put up a decent effort but he was outclassed by a good bit. BUT GGG COULD BEAT MAYWEATHER EASILY
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>>77858286
what do you expect from shin neo /b/, by next year it will be nothing but white trap porn
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>>77858259
Unofficial had them tied going into the 9th
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>>77857745
Getting tired is part of the sport? Thats like saying one basketball player couldnt dunk on the other in his prime so he had to shoot 3 pointers? Why do people get so mad, literally as i was exiting the sports bar two white people almost fought it out
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>>77858268
even if McGregor knew that Floyd was up to something it was clear his battle plan was to try and knock down Mayweather early in the game because the exhaustion was clearly getting to him by round 6. After round 8, he would put up a spirited offense for about ten seconds and then eat punches until the bell rang. It was obvious that he hadn't tried to cover his biggest weakness that Mayweather could exploit, his endurance.
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>>77858113
mate the image of floyd hanging with Trump and McGregor rapping, " Fuck D T" is getting spammed everywhere. If you would actually go on /pol/ maybe you wouldnt be so retarded.
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>>77858113
>The /pol/ but hurt
It's nothing but you niggers making the threads. No one cares about this hug fest.
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>>77858327
NONSENSE.
YOU FIGHT OR YOU DIE IT''S GOOD ENOUGH FOR THE NFL, IT'S GOOD ENOUGH FOR BOXING.
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>>77858361
No, the ultimate boxing strategy is to hit your opponent while not getting hit.
>Exploiting the rules of boxing is not part of the sport.

Yes, this is only if you're a dumb non-boxer.
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Did the referee end the fight too early? Or did the ref save Conor the humiliation of an actual KO?

Could Conor have come back in 11th or 12th round?
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If Connor had just fell over the ref would have counted to 10 and gave him a chance to recover. Instead he just insta loses because his legs look wobbly?
>boxing rules
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>>77858361
>its so easy, that is why im a broke shitposter instead of a multimillonaire boxer
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>>77858443
>punch to the face with le big silly meme glove
>punch to the face with practically a bare fist
Gee I wonder which is more damaging
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>>77858464
Mayweather only takes exhibition fights, Pacquiao was his last actual fight.
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>>77858113
>the /pol/ butthurt is amazing

/pol/ here. Why don't you stop lying you antifa piece of shit.
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>>77858569
yes, yes, no
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>>77855839
money may got a 100 million connor got scraps
research u Mic faggot
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>ITT: /pol/ and people who have watched a total of two boxing matches think their opinions about Money's fighting style is valid in any way, shape, or form.
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>>77858569
He ended it fine
Everyone complaining about this doesn't watch boxing.
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>>77858601
Go back to physics class my friend.
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>>77858184
I was rooting for mcgregor you idiot.

You wanting to see Mayweather fight in mma just shows how retarded you are. I would not bet on him making it out of 1 round against a female straw-weight.
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What an embarrassment for boxing. In no sense of the word could this be considered a "fight". It was a turtle LARPing contest. McGregor was using MMA rules and gave up when the MMA fight would have been over.
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>>77858375
>Rocky and Apollo Creed tier friendship
Yes.
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>>77855839

>9 rounds against a very defensive and tactical 40 year old boxer who retired years ago and rarely gets KOs
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How do I say corn faster?
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>>77856079
its pussy jab rules not /heem/
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>>77857922
r
a
r
e
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>>77858569
the potato nigger almost fell out of the ring. Fight was over
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>>77858471
Because fighting like a pussy is a shitty way to """""win"""""
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>>77857224
no, because mcgregor would lose the same in all those other areas to a true expert. jack of all trades, master of none. and even in mma, conor is considered a specialist to some extent.
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To all the peole saying Floyd is crap, reminder thatthe reason he hasn ahd too many problems is because he is old school and the modern retards fall into the conditionning meme:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=81non05aKX4
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>>77858123
if if if if, lots of if's but the fact is that
- he didn't get knock down
- he was fine 3 seconds later
- the ref stopped the fight
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>>77855839
>>>/gif/11172179
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>>77856527
kek that delusion, yeah it was that nigger ref making connor tired, not his shitty stamina white boi
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>>77855839
I agree, but in the move he gave credibility to boxing, a dying "sport", and that was a mistake.
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>>77857014
Exactly, it's real fighting when boxing is a silly game. And no I don't like conor and expected him to lose this.
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GGG WOULD KNOCK OUT MAYWEATHER GGG WOULD KNOCK OUT MAYWEATHER GGG WOULD KNOCK OUT MAYWEATHER GGG WOULD KNOCK OUT MAYWEATHER GGG WOULD KNOCK OUT MAYWEATHER GGG WOULD KNOCK OUT GGG WOULD KNOCK OUT MAYWEATHER GGG WOULD KNOCK OUT MAYWEATHER GGG WOULD KNOCK OUT MAYWEATHER
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>>77858569
Connor clearly has a hard chin but the Ref did the right thing. He was a hard hit away from hitting the floor. The ref did it in Mcgs interest not mayweathers.
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>>77856527
that ref was clearly on the pay roll

whatever connor needs to go back to strangling fuckers.
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>>77858697
>ever watching "two people pretend to slug it out until the one who is scheduled to lose and make Vegas the most money takes a dive"
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>>77858668
away foul demon
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>>77858796
>all time legend needing ref to stop the fight because he can't knock down a first time fighter after 10 rounds
wew, what a master
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>>77858796
>jack of all trades, master of none

This is the main problem with MMA, real marters of martial arts perfect their craft in their discipline
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>>77858158
It was a win as a publicity stunt. This was a nonfight by any true measure.

Conor exposed himself as being unable to compose his punches, and wore himself way too quickly. His defense was absolutely amateur level. The thing that he was boasting was his hammer left, which really isn't that effective in boxing gloves. Just watch when he sparred with malignaggi, he hit him hard and clean and malignaggi didn't even buckle.I mean it's nice that it's a feel good story all around, but professionally, mcgregor just shows he can't stand to boxers in the ring at the pro level.
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>>77858601
Yes, in boxing 90+% of the shots are to the head. MMA is all sisy leg kicking and grappling 90% of the time. Once someone takes one or two shots to the head the fight is stopped faster than you can yell mummy because they're all sleepy after a one or two punches.

Boxing you're expected to take those shots cover up and keep coming back.
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>>77858113
>the /pol/ butthurt is amazing
Nice wishful thinking, cunt.
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>>77855839
I agree
If this is the best that box offers then box is lame
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>>77858361
Or Connor could have thrown uppercuts which he is known for instead of doing shit that a real ref would have started pointing for in the second round.
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>>77856649
This. It jumped out at me how at the start he was putting on his big boy face but you could tell he wasn't happy, his feet hurt, the music was too loud, he wanted to go home and rear naked choke, but walking out after the fight he had a genuine smile and relief on his face.
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Connor lost. He had a good plan, and his extended fist at the start was a brilliant anti clinch solution. All in all he did great. However he was so inexperienced in boxing he had no idea how to pace himself in an infight.

Mayweather took it to the chests to tire him out quickly, it was a bold play that was counter to his usual floaty distance game. However, Connor's punches originate from karate, and he always fights at a distance in MMA, so the best bet was to make him fight an uncomfortable fight with his insufficient stamina.

Great fight. Both of them really impressed me, especially after I got all black pilled from Pac's fight with Mayweather.
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This fight made me think that he might have been lying about all those hand problems Floyd supposedly has had.
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>>77857014
Mayweather wouldn't last one round in the octagon
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>>77856966
>punching at a certain angle is illegal
why is boxing a thing agai
it's continued existence is as flabbergasting as soccer's, when hockey is literally soccer with every possible improvement put into effect
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>>77856012
>nigga

Nuke Brazil
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>>77858713
>Being non-White to the degree where you're a fucking redskin

Get a fucking grip you subhuman.
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>>77857014
Lol no, tonight millions of normies that normally don't give a fuck about combat sports tuned into the memefest and found out how gay and boring boxing is, MMA is about to explode.
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>>77858465
black trap > white trap tho
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>>77856799
Did you watch the fight? Mayweather was fucking Conor from round 5 to the end
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>>77855839
>Connor went nine rounds against golaith
He went 9 rounds against a 40 year old who can't knock anyone out to save his fucking life and still managed to get knocked out and look like shit.

Amazing.

I honestly want to see him go after Canelo next. Him making it outside of round 4 without getting his head knocked off would be a miracle.
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>>77858941
>UFC
>have to watch all four limbs in addition to grapples, incorporates many different martial arts styles
>boxing
>only have to watch two limbs that are covered up by enormous silly padding
Truly a sport for the skillful fighter
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Imagine getting finished by a 40 year old former 125 lbs boxer
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>>77857536
>Boxing is bullshit, fake fighting. Sad.
Haha
This so much
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>>77859064
>MMA has no rules
Except it does.

https://www.bloodyelbow.com/2012/1/15/2709364/ufc-142-results-back-of-head-rule-illegal-strikes-silva-prater-dq-yamasaki
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>>77859163
Canelo would kill Mcgregor.
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>>77859054

no one disputes that. what is hilarious is that you and all the other pleb UFC fans genuinely thought he stood a chance at boxing.

HAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHHAAAAA.
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>>77856465
I think you're right. It was perfectly scripted.
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>>77859200
Yeah, it's boxing, it's a sport.

>adding hugging and kicking makes it better
>MMA

kek, they already outlawed bunny punches.
It's literally kick boxing with some hugs and submission holds. Don't even pretend it's all out combat fightig.

see
>>77859252
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>>77858286
you clearly dont even browse it if you think that
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>>77855839
does he go back to UFC now with better boxing skills?
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>>77855839
>this guy has barely been in the ring...

That was painfully obvious.
Ryan Gosling would have done about as well.
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>>77859200
too bad nobody knows how to actually use those styles. UFC is a fucking meme in combat sports. They all up in this shitty MMA style that takes shit versions of Muay Thai and JJ. A pure kick boxer with some wrestling training would obliterate 90% of fighters. Face it UFC is still semi-amateur no matter how much people try to pretend it;s the pinnacle of combat.
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>>77859127
> Not understanding red light bulbs exist.
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Connor could have died in the ring and you faggots still would say he won.
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>>77858810
You're a dumb little nigger aren't you?
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>>77859412
I think he will price himself out of UFC and star fighting in an independent way promoting himslef against other mma attractions and winning more money
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>>77856389
>>77856389
underrated
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>>77859412
I guess he will
Was so happy when he said he'll come back
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>>77859291
Does /heem/ actual have to go??

that is literally so great -_-
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>10 years older
>30lbs lighter

how can UFC EVER recover? m-muh STRIKERS!
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>>77859252
Yeah it also has some dumbass rules but for boxing whatever you do with your sockem boppers should be legal, outside of maybe dickpunches
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>>77859406
I don't think you understand how combat works if you think grappling is "hugging". Get yourself into an arm bar and tell me how much it feels like a hug you fucking bogan. Boxing is a fake sport that exists solely to make Vegas money. Nobody takes it seriously as a combat sport because it isn't real combat.
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>>77856517
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>>77856764
>old man strength

What strength? It took him how many shots to not even KO a guy who standing open?
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>>77855839
McGregor is a legend. People in 50 yrs will talk about him as we talk about Ali or Bruce Lee now.
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>>77859643
>grappling isn't hugging
It's gay as shit to grab a mans ass.
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>>77859134
the virgin boxer v. The Chad MMA Star

Boxer

>carefully chooses opponents he thinks won't be challenging and fights for points not knockouts

>afraid of any other combat sport and only feels comfortable with sockem boppers on his fists

>fights infrequently

>covers genitals when next to hung Chad in his underwear

>wears high heels and a hat to make himself look taller

>puts on shades so you don't see the fear in his eyes

MMA Star

>will fight anyone at anytime barefisted

>a master of many fighting styles

>not afraid to try cross compete in another combat sport against the best

>tries to decapitate his opponent with every punch

>struts around on stage in nothing but his underwear

>can reduce a man's confidence to nothing with just his taunts
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>>77859643
UFC is literally pro wrestling you dumb mark.
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>>77859466
>he thinks "everything is illegal except punching with Sockem Boppers" is the pinnacle of combat sports
Holy shit my sides are done
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>>77855839
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>>77858941
>who can endure brain damage longer
What a brilliant sport, up there with American football
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wwe pay per views are so much better
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>>77858810
lol
he was one punch away from hitting the mat
-- but you still would have said hurr durr at least he went that far
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>>77859702
Yeah, about how he lost to a 40 year old man by TKO. Lost to a fighter never known for his punching power by fucking TKO after literally facing up to connor and landing 50+% of his punches to connors 25%.
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>>77859778
learn to read you fucking retard
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>>77859734
Are you 16? My mistake I thought I was having a conversation with an adult, not a teenager who makes gay jokes.
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>>77859484
Literally RED.

>>77859248
>Finncuck
No surprises there. Try an Octagon next time, without a refball.
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>>77859884
>adults
>on 4chang
my sides
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>90% of the posts making fun of McGregor have been about DUDE BLACKED LMAO or DADDY TRUMP
Really makes you think.
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>>77858810
>- he was fine 3 seconds later

No he wasn't, he was still out of it when he was talking, he was fine 5 minutes after the stoppage sure. But what exactly do you think would've happened if the ref didn't stop it? McGregor had no more energy and any that he recuperated at the end of a round he just spent in the first 5 seconds of the next.
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>>77859818
>who can endure brain damage longer

Yes it's called boxing, not kicking legs and hugging for 25 mins until somebody gets tired and falls asleep.
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>>77859850
Almost as if that 40 year old is one of the GOAT boxfags kek

>this delusion
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What a fucking joke of a sport kek holy shit
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>>77859968
first BLACKED, now GASSED?
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>>77858810
>getting tired and not being able to defend yourself means you haven't really lost

My fucking sides.
Stick to basketball, blackie.
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>>77859702
People said the same thing about Chuck Liddell and Kimbo Slice. Hell when Kimbo died nobody gave a fuck. Give it 5 years and McGregor will be forgotten.
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Time to see 500 posts on facebook about how the fight was stopped early.

Everybody knows better than byrd I guess, lmao
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>McGregor leaning against he ropes exhausted and getting beat down
>"b-but McGregor had a chance!!!!"

lmao whitebois mad
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>>77860067
Remember that girl that was good once and got kinda fat then lost?
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Please dont fight reminder that the top 5 ATG boxers in no particular oder are:

Ray Robinson
Harry Greb
Sam Langford
Ezzard Charles
Henry Amstrong
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>>77860035
This
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>>77856465
>the dumb people are people who exchanged money for an entertainment product that they enjoyed watching
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This was Floyd taking a dive without taking a dive. looking forward to the rematch.
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>this magically means Mayweather is the better fighter
So you're the better man because it took you nine and a half rounds to TKO a guy who has literally never boxed in his life? Step into the octagon and see how long you last in Conor's world you dumb old nigger. Pay your fucking taxes first.
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>>77857647

McGregor wouldn't have been able to out-cardio Mayweather even if he had had 3 times as long to prepare for the fight. McGregor's only shot of winning was to go all out in the early rounds and get a KO. Still not a great shot, and obviously didn't work out, but better than any of his other options.

Conor going hard from the bell is the reason he won the first few rounds and was somewhat competitive despite losing in the next few. If he'd tried to play the long game he wouldn't have won a round, and probably still would have gassed by the second half of the fight.
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>>77859850
>Lost to a fighter never known for his punching power
Mayweather literally has a 54% KO rate
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>>77855839
Lol get rekt stay mad make excuses bong, McNugget lost Murrica wins again

DEAL WITH IT
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>>77859032
>especially after I got all black pilled from Pac's fight with Mayweather.

yep. this was... weirdly so much better than that
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>>77860243
Floyd isn't in this thread, dipshit.

Did you copy paste this from some shit Youtube comment?
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>>77860301
in his younger years, he's not straight up KO'd anyone since hatton almost a decade ago

He breaks his hands every fight
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>>77855839
>Have to listen to everyone go on about how great mcgregor did for going 10 rounds

Floyd stuck to his usual game plan and ended making mcgregor look good
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>""""""""""""sport"""""""""""" where the outcome is decided either by three totally not paid off "judges" or a totally not paid off "referee" if there isn't a knockout
Imagine thinking this is a legitimate sport
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>>77860066
>dance around like a faggot protected by the rules until one person is physically unable to continue means you won at "combat"
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>>77858569
Referee made it fun in the end and was the MVP. He allowed Europeans/Whites to have that little excuse and retain their honor and he kept McGregor from cheating too much rest so he couldn't just outlast and possibly steal a win so blacks wouldn't need to riot for the 1000th time this year.

I am white and still fine with how everything went down and I think Conor will be the McGregor of MMA if he keeps up his cardio he will be unstoppable.
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>>77860473
Floyd made it at least mildly entertaining by giving McGregor a chance before he dialed it up.
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>>77858927

can't be that perfect if they get their asses kicked as soon as they have to deal with something outside of their narrow skillset
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>>77860567
This
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>>77855839
Haha, just another rich boomer. Yay!, you greenleafnig.
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>this thread
Wow I almost wish Money killed the guy instead.
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>>77859466

>a kickboxer with wrestling training

so, a mixed martial artist?
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>>77860066
kek lost
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>>77860575
>Conor will be the McGregor of MMA
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Hahahahahshsjahjjjahajsjsjajahhahajajahahahajshshsjjsbsnsbďdddddddddddddd
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Murrica wins again!
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http://i.4cdn.org/int/1503811795326.webm

>h-he was st-stil ldefending himself, the ref stopped it too early!
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>>77860575
>Conor will be the McGregor of MMA
Are you high?
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>>77860402
ikr, imagine if mayweather lost conor fans would be on his nuts and burning floyd alive.
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>>77860473
mayweather had an embarrassing first couple of rounds

he literally turned his back against mcgregor mid-fight a few times, as well as hurdled down waiting for a ref reset

it was kind've clear that mcgregor was hitting mayweather more than he liked as he was getting pretty frazzled
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At first it was
>McGregor won't even touch Mayweather
Now it is
>McGregor had no chance in the 10th round!

Which one is it?
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>>77858910
mayweather gave a masterclass and i dont even like the guy
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>>77860808
he's not wrong
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>>77860917
more like all the people making excuses for conor. Even though conor is the one who called out flyod and kept mentioning his name.
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>>77860917
What I hear usually is
>McGregor lost!
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Boxing is a shitty sport. Mayweather wins because he has better cardio not because he was more skilled. Lame.


Make fights 5 rounds so fags like Mayweather can't just cover up and run until the other guy gets tired.
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>>77860917
mcgregor lost like a little faggot

that's what it was you salty assblasted faggot lmao
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BTFO racist McGregor fan starter pack:

>Mayweather is a fucking pussy, he should have fought head on like a real man
>Mayweather only wins because he just sits there and dodges and never punches
>It's obvious the fight was rigged
>Conor was beating the shit out of him in the first rounds
>ref stopped the fight too early, he still had a few good punches in him
>I knew he wasn't gonna win but I wanted to see him change history so that's why I rooted for him
>if this was MMA Mayweather would have got his ass kicked
>boxing doesn't show how skilled you are as a fighter anyway
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McMemetards are honestly WORSE than pactards, not even pactards were this deluded after the fight
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>>77861057
>being in better shape doesn't count as winning in a physical contest
The amount of mental gymnastics in your post is outstanding
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>>77861252
It definitely counts as winning, that's why boxing sucks.

I like things to be decide by skill, not conditioning.
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>>77861057
>Mayweather wins because he has better cardio not because he was more skilled.

hahahahahahahahahahahaha
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>>77855839
Just for a minute imagine if Floyd had stepped into the octagon. Do you really think he would last four rounds with Conor? Fuck no, he'd barely last 40 seconds.
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>>77861433
What is one sport that is physical, skill-based, AND doesn't require much conditioning? All combat sports rely on conditioning I guarantee you that.
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>>77861557
Let's move those goal posts back in time a bit to where McGregor challenged Mayweather...
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>>77861152
>he thinks the Pac fight was a fair outcome
How much Cuckweather dick do you gobble on a daily basis holy shit.
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>>77861809
t. casual boxing fan

stop embarassing yourself
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>>77856079
Ok here's what I don't get about this:

The UFC has the exact same policy. EXACT SAME POLICY.

A fighter doesn't need to be ice cold knocked out for a fight to end. All it takes is for them to get rocked and be unable to intelligently defend themselves. Hell, they can still be standing, just like boxing. If a fighter gets whacked, stumbles back into the cage, and the other guy just starts unloading on his face, the UFC refs will stop the fight just the same

This was really no different at all. McGregor was done. It was actually an EXCELLENT stoppage. He gave McGregor enough time to recover(over 10 seconds), and it wasn't happening.
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>>77861557
but thats like telling conor to play any other arbitrary game he knows nothing about e.g. chess. atleast boxing is in mma. theres no groundwork in boxing. what youre asking is irrelevant. and ask conor to go fight a master jiu jitsu guy, hed get fucked.
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>>77855839

he was in worse shape than a 40yr old man that hadn't fought in 2 years.

got a couple of shots in early while FMM let him fight, i'll give him credit - but he had the punching power of a little girl.
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>>77860917
this desu
or "he won't last a round"
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>>77861932
It's MMA fags getting their dicks in a pinch about it and goalposting or white supremacists mad they their race lost. Or shitposters. More than likely shitposters
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He went from world 1-1 to 8-4 in 2 months and took on Browser himself with one life, and lasted 10 (TEN) rounds without ever being knocked down.
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>At the time of the stoppage, Mayweather led on all three judges' scorecards (87-83, 89-82, 89-81).
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>>77861862
>being proud of being more than a casual when a boring athlete like floyd mayweather is the best in the sport

who cares lol
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>>77862049
Floyd got hurt and hurt badly, just every time he did he turned his back to Conor and ducked his head so there were no legal punches. Ranallo was all over that shit.
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>>77855839
>Connor went nine rounds against golaith.

this would be more impressive if that weren't the goliath's gameplan the entire time.

if the goliath's plan were to KO him first round, then it might be impressive
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>>77861704
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>>77855839
>when you kill them they win
straight from the canadian logic handbook
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>>77862217
That was bad scoring to say the least. Mayweather didn't do anything the first 3 rounds, the fourth round he didn't do nearly enough and McGregor had strong arguments for the 5th and 7th as well. I thought it was 86-85 McGregor going into that round, and the announce crew had it 86-85 Floyd so stop acting like it was a dominant performance.
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>>77862276
idk what you were watching but conor did tag floyd but as conor said Floyd was composed.
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>>77862276
Didn't looked swelled up to me. Unlike potato man who looked like mainly unresponsive in the corner, slow back to it, and ready to bleed.
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Conor stans are pathetic.
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>>77855839
>Connor won ....

Lol keep telling yourself that.
>>
I didn't know Goliath was 20 lbs smaller than you.
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>>77862382
dominations are 2-0, the last 2 rounds were 2-0 rounds without question
>>
"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth."

~Mike Tyson~
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>>77862476
in the grand scheme of things, he did. FMM beating him is like a man beating a woman, of course he had the better chance of winning. The fact that FMM didn't put him down in the opening rounds reflects poorly on him and positive on conor. This isn't like when cm punk tried to do ufc.
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>>77862635
excuses
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>>77862635
>The fact that FMM didn't put him down in the opening rounds reflects poorly on him and positive on conor.
Floyd is known as a point fighter. He is defensive and goes for punches that earn him points from the judges. Conor got TKO'd by someone with no punching power...
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>>77855839
Conor got TKO'd by a man who was, in Conor's own words, "too small", "brittle", and "pillow-fisted".

But we still should heap praise and adulation on Conor, and ride his cock like he had the balls to go against the GOAT boxer in his prime, right?

>pic related: something Conor will never be
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>>77855839
>loses to a 40 year old retiree
>gets knocked out by a man known for running away and waiting for judge decisions

this is what white people consider "winning"
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>>77860181
Yes, it wasn't no competition circus to separate retards like you from their money.

Sorry to break it to you. Do you also but wrestling ppvs?
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>>77860656
>combat
No you won at boxing you dumb nignog
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>>77856079
lmao I know right!

He was winning the fight.
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>>77856258
MMA has TKO's; the fuck you talking about?
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>>77856693
>You have to fall down to die

You know nothing about Death
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>>77863101
UFC fanboys are complaining about the TKO
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>>77855839
>Final Boss
>Veteran Difficulty
>Mayweather doesn't throw shit for the first 9 minutes

Wew lad. Keep up with this "final boss" "Goliath" nonsense. McGregor talked shit for months about Mayweather and Boxing in general. And then after he got beat by an older man, 2 years into retirement; still had the ego to shit talk after hugging for his life.

As a "fighter" he has nothing to be proud of. He was played with for 10 rounds. Was chased down constantly and still got out-punched despite MayWeather doing what McGregor likes. He likes when his opponents are aggressive, and he still couldn't do shit. A fighter would've been extremely humbled by the experience of being turned into a joke for 10 rounds. But not McGregor. He's so full of excuses and ego is amazing. I can only hope Nate actually checks leg kicks next time, and fucks McGregor up to kill his hype train completely.
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>>77858032
raaaaaaaaare
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>>77863221
ExactIy laughed the whole fight. The amount of times McGregor hugged and couldn't keep up compared to Mayweather was absolutely ridiculous.
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Damn I was all in for angry Irish snowbunny but even i gotta admit he got CRUSHED, like damn
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>>77856709
your boy got fucked in the ass, face it buddy.
And stop making excuses, you're embarrassing yourself.
>>
If you lose


You win
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>>77855839
>Connor won
mhm..so did hillary clinton
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>>77856213
irish people aren't white
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>>77862382
>That was bad scoring to say the least. Mayweather didn't do anything the first 3 rounds

thats because mayweather didnt give a shit about the scoring, his entire plan revolved around giving mcgregor the first few rounds to gas him then knocking him the fuck out

conorfags need to accept that at NO POINT was he EVER in this fight
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>>77865457
This. "Conor would win if he fought him in the Octagon" is the new "Hillary would win if he had popular vote".
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reminder

Trump is always right
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>>77856079
Damage limitation, nobody wanted to see a brain damaged McG, they already suspected it after he tried to convince the world he could beat the #1 boxer
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>>77856693
I didn't see McG protesting the stoppage, wonder why?
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>>77858184
>I'd love to see Floyd in an Octagon.
You won't though, cos he's not dense.
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>>77867200
Brilliant.
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>>77858184
Lol, why the fook would he step into the octagon? /heem/ desperately trying to save face
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>>77859032
this poster knows what he is talking about
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Jesus fuck, complaining about the stoppage is top retard. You think McGregor wouldn't have said something if he thought it was a bad stoppage? The guy can't control himself.

>>77857488
You're doing the equivalent of supporting 12-6 elbows in MMA. Additionally, you realize when MMA fighters have someone in a rear grab on the ground, they don't beat the fuck out of the back of someone's head, right? They try to reach and punch the face. A real ref would have started penalizing him in the second round, he got away with it in every single round.

I was hoping Conor would meme but dirty punches are dirty punches, this isn't a fucking bloodsport, there are rules and regulations to try and make it so these people aren't eating through a straw for the rest of their lives.

Same reason why the fight stopped when Conor could no longer defend himself. Everyone involved knows how much money these two guys make their employers and sponsors, no one is going to fucking allow him to sit there and get his face beaten in for another 20 seconds while nothing is done. Just because he didn't fall on the mat and get his face shit on while Herb lets it go for another 10 seconds doesn't mean he wasn't finished.
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>>77862382
So you had Floyd with a lead with 3 rounds to go where he was clearly winning rounds 10-8 and McGregor was gassed...
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