Why are CL draw rules so shit?

>>77790526
Dude I bet if you saw the same exact group with Southampton you probably wouldn't event care. There are 32 clubs that reach the Group state in the CL. As every country has a quota for teams that must attend the champions league, its only natural that there would be some fucked groups.

More like why is the CL so shit now

Natural byproduct desu

>>77790526
>barely a UEFA cup group
>contains the two finalists from 15/16

Amerisharts

>>77790526
>tf
>tp
Liverpool, Sevilla and Spartak are all somewhat prestigous clubs who can play decent football.

>>77791679
Finalists of what exactly?
The Slovenian PrvaLiga and the Russian Cup?

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The UEFA coefficient is absolute bullshit and is a terrible way of ranking teams.

They should use the ranking from clubelo

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>>77791693
>Spurs #7

>>77791692
>americasuals

>>77791692
>americluelessans

>>77791692
fucking hell

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>>77791693
>since 1996-09-30

>>77791693
>memELO
stick to boreball and chess faggot

>>77791786
it's much more accurate than any system UEFA or FIFA use that's for sure

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>>77791692

No Dumbshit. Google and Wikipedia are your friends, Xander from Tacoma.

Stop embarrassing your country.

>>77791692
>amerididntwatchtheeuropaleague

>>77791692
Please stop. You're making us look bad.

>>77791693
How the fuck are we under Real Sociedad!?
How the fuck is Napoli in 9th!?

>>77790526
Sevilla is better than Liverpool.

>>77791767
>there has been a time in my life where arsene wenger was not the manager of arsenal
What the fuck?

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>>77791692
Pathetic

>>77790526

yeah can't believe Liverpool is in there

>>77792265
>How the fuck are we under Real Sociedad?
Git gud bro, based basque genes.
>How the fuck is Napoli in 9th?
Why not?

>>77790526

>Google Maribor
>stadium holds 20k, average attendance 12k


My sides

>>77793706
stadium attendance has been a meaningless meme since Illsbreh + TV deals

>>77792265
No Portuguese team is close to Real Sociedad

>>77791693
>A.C. Milan and Inter Milan under Hoffenheim

What happened lads?

>>77793706
>stadium holds 20k, average attendance 12k
No it doesn't, official capacity is 12k

>>77791693
>every club has had a new manager in the past 7 years except for Arsenal

>>77797521
RBL was founded 13 years after Wenger became Arsenal's coach.

>>77790526
That's going to be the best group because everyone can qualify.

>>77797674
That's group G.
This group, Liverpoi and Sevilla are clear favorites.

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>>77791680
>Spartak
>can play decent football

>>77791693
any ranking is meaningless because teams play way too few matches in the same competition to hold any statistical significance
i know ELO uses league matches too, but the way the weigh opposition is inaccurate and self referencial as fuck
so yeah i'd rather stick with UEFA rankings, at least one good season in any top 4 league doesn't make you a top 50 team in Europe in that ranking

>>77797674
no, it's a shit group with shit overall quality and on top of it the standings are basically already set
Sevilla-Liverpool-Spartak-Maribor
maybe Liverpool and Sevilla could swap position, but that changes fuckall

>>77790526
You're right. There are only two champions in that group. Absolutely disgusting to let some 4th placed team into the CHAMPIONS LEAGUE.

>>77793706
>stadium holds 20k
are you retarded? It holds 12.994

>>77790526
Have you guys seen the Europa?

AC Milan
Everton
Hoffenheim
Basaksehir

and

Arsenal
Marseille/Nice
Atalanta
Vitesse

Are possible group.

>>77797835
Somebody make a thread for that draw.

>>77797905
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>>77790526
Ha ha ha