>For you people who want to know if X player is better than Y player http://www.landofbasketball.com/player_comparison.htm
>For you people who want to make daydream trades
http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine
wtf is a god dream
JUST the Process™
>>77773841
>Colangelo has ruined Hinkie's dream by making all these dumb short term moves that haven't worked out, while riding off the "Trust the Process" luck
fucking sorry Hinkie
Say something nice about the spuds
>Say something nice about the spuds
>>77773933
They've won 50+ games a season for almost 2 decades
Call me when John Wall does this
>>77773839
Try the Djembe. Or maybe a kazoo.
>>77773960
>cherry picking stats
we can find stats that Isaiah was the only player to do too.
>>77774030
>>77773960
Check these stats.
These aren't cherry picked
I had a dream lebron went to the Knicks in free agency. I don't normally dream about NBA shit but I figured this was interesting.
>>77774059
oh damn he got 10 rebounds a game he must be the best point guard in the NBA
>>77774065
This is a LeGod dream
>>77774030
>50-40-90 club
>cherrypicking
L
>>77773960
nice snake list
>>77774080
It's literally arbitrary cherry picking. You think averaging 49/39/89 isn't good?
>>77774059
Did Oscar Robertson purposely not make his 7 foot centers grab rebounds too??
>>77773960
Why didn't Bird shoot twice as many 3s so he can score 30+ ppg.
>>77774104
>>77774100
Why didn't your mom abort you?
>>77774095
>You think averaging 49/39/89 isn't good?
Not good enough to be in the elite company of the 50-40-90 club
>>77774104
He didn't play in the 2010s era
>>77774059
>Robertson did it convincingly
>was within 1 of either assists or boards previous seasons and over his first 5 years he avg'd one.
>Westcuck gets 10 assists and stops passing and steals boards to get to 10
>just as good!
>>77774074
he scored 31 PPG with 10 assists. Even if he grabbed 0 rebounds that's a fucking amazing statline.
Sure triple doubles are a meme, but discounting that russ was still far and away the MVP the year and undisputed best PG
>my arbitrary standard of even numbers is more impressive than your arbitrary standard of even numbers!
Curry cucks on suicide watch
Having great stats is irrelevant if your team doesn't win games
>>77774191
>a record showing how well you performed doesn't matter if the rest of your team didn't meet your level of play
Really activates my noggin.
If you don't win games your stats don't matter.
Lmaoooooo was this year's MVP the fakest MVP of all time? Only MVP to get eliminated in the first round
>>77774207
>statpadding but losing games should be rewarded
Lmao
>>77774191
>people who started watching in 2015 actually believe this
stats are the ultimate measure of NBA skill. Without them we'd have no other way to compare players with each other and we'd be clueless as to who the best players are. Only retards who buy into ESPN and skip bayless' "rings are the only thing that matters" bullshit try to discount stats
>>77774241
Yeah I guess Kevin Garrett, Wilt Chamberlain, Elgin Baylor, Jason Kidd, and countless others were just stat padding and they totally weren't great of anything.
Define stat padding and let me laugh at you.
>>77774228
MVP hasn't meant shit since voters got "voter fatigue" and gave it to Rose in 2011. Lebron should be MVP every year since 2010
>stats are the ultimate measure of NBA skill
>>77774228
Derrick Rose got eliminated in the first round off the top of my head so you're wrong
>>77774263
When your 7 foot center purposely does not grab rebounds so your 6'2 PG can grab it so that later on you can say "he averaged a triple double!" while losing in the first round
>>77774263
you literally just named 3 of the biggest stat padders of all time. That's not helping your case
>>77774268
all these nerds are dumb as fuck
>>77774268
It's a record of what occured.
Do you deny that Egyptians built pyramids and Jesus existed?
>stats are the ultimate measure of NBA skill
LeGOD confirmed GOAT?
>>77774275
Yeah when Wilt stopped scoring on purpose and only passed after winning 7 scoring titles in a row he was just stat padding and he totally wasn't one of if not the greatest scorer ever.
>>77774286
Players play to win championships not to get nice stats.
spam is at full force today
>>77774304
What does that have to do with the fact Westbrook statpadded and lost games?
>>77774307
Stats are a record of what occurred. If you as a player have a record that shows you were great compared to others this cannot be refuted because it hurt your feelings.
Championships are won by teams, if you want to talk about that then talk about team stats, but if not literally nothing you've said refutes the truth that's occurred.
Now go back to /x/ and watch Ancient Aliens instead of spamming your garbage here.
>>77774307
when you play a pick up game in front of a bunch of girls, who do the girls always end up hitting on?
They don't give a rats ass who won the game, they always hit on the guy with the most points/rebounds/assists who can dunk. When you walk into a gym that's the guy everyone notices, not the guy who happens to be on the winning team the most times.
Even subconsciously people who don't understand the sport will gravitate towards the guy with the best stats
If you're just going by advanced metrics, Chris Paul is far and away the greatest point guard of all time.
>>77774228
>Who is Dirk
>>77774321
Define stat padding because the definition I see shows that stat padding in basketball is mostly done when losing by a large margin or winning by a large margin and the Thunder were top 2 in the league in having games decided by the closest amount of points and have a very small point differential that proves this.
>>77774348
Girls always hit on the guy with the best advanced stats.
>this nigga mad as fuck still
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Gonna watch his speech and the Denver game one more time just for you.
If athletes cared about stats why did D.Wade, Bosh, and LeBron get together? Why did KG Pierce and Allen get together? Why did Durant join the Warriors? All their stats went down significantly than when they were the main guys on their team, but guess what? They didn't care, they cared more about winning Championships. Athletes are competitors, they compete to win, not "oh- i averaged more assists than him". But you fatfucks beat off to statistics because that's all you know, you've never played a team sport competitively.
>>77774377
Exactly. The first time I got 12/10/10 in a pickup game I got a blowjob. You don't think girls notice when you get a triple double? Now imagine if I scored 30.
>>77774398
>compete to win
>mentions Durant who did the opposite of competing to win in the easiest way possible
SPPPPPP HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA
Stay mad loser
M V P B R O O K !
>>77774398
because they fell for the rings meme. I blame ESPN trying to brainwash players into forming superteams to win rings, before that it was always about stats and MVP's and rings were just an accessory.
>>77774398
>Athletes are competitors, they compete to win,
>Durant
>Compete
By your own definition Durant stat padded a championship. Which actually makes sense now that I think about it.
>>77774417
Durant wanted a ring, he went to the Warriors and got one. He cared more about that then staying with the Thunder and getting nice stats as the main guy. Durant got Finals MVP and a ring. Meanwhile Westbrook bounced in the first round lmfaooooooooooooooooo
>>77774443
>By your own definition Durant stat padded a championship. Which actually makes sense now that I think about it.
ITS TRUE
ITS TRUE
ITS TRUE
ITS TRUE
ITS TRUE
>>77774443
HOLY SHIT THIS
Durring padder
>>77774443
>Durrantstats the ring padder
Perfect
How does my ass taste /nba/??
My celties are literally the team to beat now.
>>77774443
Ring padding piece of shit loser Durrcan't BTFO
>>77774443
A new epic meme was born.
God tier post.
>>77774443
>Durant is ringpadding
>>77774443
Players compete to win championships, they don't compete to get better stats than each other. Durant put himself in the best competitive position to win a ring.
>tfw when I started this whole stats argument
I regret it tbqhwyf
Westbrook will NEVER have a picture like this
>>77774443
BTFO
DURSTATS
DURSTATPAD
DURSLIP
DURCHOKE
DURSNAKE
DURCARRIED
DURBETA
DURBACKSTAB
DURCAN'T
DURCRY
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EXPOSED!
>IT is the second best player in the east
>nevermind kyrie is better
really activates my almonds
>>77774519
Yeah because he's not a ring padder, LMAO
LOLOL
NBAS FIRST RING PADDER
LOLOLO
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>>77774505
So he ring padded?
Thanks for confirming
>>77774505
Yeah he ring padded, thanks for agreeing
>>77774519
do you think you care more about durant having a ring over westbrook than durant does himself?
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>>77774519
Thank god, don't want him to ever ring pad like Durrslip the loser
>>77774548
Now, Wilt and LeBron ring padded before.
>ring padding
Thank you based god we got a spicy new meme.
Other than KD and LeBron who has ring padded before?
What's up?
>>77774591
Ray Allen
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vWzm2zBLZys
>ring padding
yall niggas is so dumb lmao
>>77774623
t. Ring padder
>>77774623
yo shutup durcant
>tfw statpadding is too easy so you resort to ringpadding
>this thread
>>77774649
t. Robert Horry
>>77774623
lmao stay off the internet Dur-Ring Padder
>Young Bulls Players Are Reportedly Sick of Dwyane Wade, Contract Buyout Is ‘Inevitable’
>>77774649
Sup KD
>>77774670
KD RING PADS LIKE THIS FAGGOT POST PADS
AHAHAH
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>>77774683
Welcome to Boston Dwayne
>89 posts
>23 posters
https://twitter.com/BleacherReport/status/900504753410416641
I don't think he will ever decline
>>77774716
Better than it usually is t b h. It's usually like 39 posters and 400 replies.
I literally can't wait for opening night
is Morris going ot be a starter on the celtics?
LET THIS SINK IN: THE CAVS' ARCH RIVAL, THE CELTICS, ACQUIRED KYRIE, A TOP 5 PLAYER ONLY 25 YRS OLD, WITHOUT GUTTING THEIR TEAM. HISTORIC.
remember the IT4less celtics beat the cavs last playoffs and the raptors got swept
>>77774769
Kyrie is going to leave the celtics for the spurs when he's done proving his worth through the celties.
RINGPADDER!
>>77774797
>Kyrie Irving 'Thrilled' to Be with Celtics; Boston Plans to Re-Sign to Extension
>>77774336
Stats without context are useless you nerd
>>77774832
t. everyone who gets traded
lmfao you dumb as hell
DURRINGPADDER GETS EXPOSED
BREAD GOES COLD
MAKES ME PONDER
>>77774832
If you read it it's "feel confident they can sign him to an extension"
Kyrie could sign an extension, or not.
>>77774917
Even if he doesn't, they have his Bird Rights, they'd offer him more money than he could get anywhere else.
What exactly are Bird rights?
>>77774486
Not even close.
>>77775016
What is google?
Why in the fuck would anyone root for a NBA team instead of individual players? The players themselves have 0 loyalty and chase rings/cash. It just seems stupid to root for a team when the players all wanna leave and play for winners
>>77775016
natural rights and liberties birds get when they are born
>>77775016
>The Bird exception, named after Larry Bird, is a rule included in the NBA's Collective Bargaining Agreement that allows teams to go over the salary cap to re-sign their own players. A player who qualifies for the Bird exception, formally referred to as a Qualifying Veteran Free Agent, is said to have "Bird rights."
Is curry the best player under 6'6 in history? Name one with his combined accolades and skill
>>77775072
>this post
>posts a picture of a guy who was loyal to his team for 19 years and that same team has also 2 other players who are beyond loyal
>>77775083
>The most basic way for a player to earn Bird rights is to play for the same team for at least three seasons, either on a multiyear deal or separate one-year contracts. The criteria are a little more complicated than that though. A player retains his Bird rights in the following scenarios:
>1. He changes teams via trade, rather than being waived or signing elsewhere as a free agent. For instance, Anthony Morrow is in the third year of his contract. He has been traded twice, from the Nets to the Hawks and then to the Mavericks, but will earn Bird rights at season's end because he was never waived during those three seasons.
>2 He finishes a third season with a team after having only played partial seasons with the club for the first two years (without signing elsewhere in between).
>However, a player sees the clock on his Bird rights reset to zero in the following scenarios:
>-->He changes teams via free agency.
>-->He is selected in an expansion draft.
>-->He is waived and is not claimed on waivers.
>-->His rights are renounced by his team.
>If a player has earned Bird rights, he is eligible to sign a maximum-salary contract for up to five years with 7.5% annual raises when he becomes a free agent. The maximum salary will vary depending on how long the player has been in the league, but regardless of the amount, a team can exceed the salary cap to complete the deal.
>>77774519
What awkwardly accepting an award he knew he would get at the beginning of the season doing the most low pressure job in basketball and hiding behind a 73 win team to 'cement' his 'legacy'? The autistic fuck didn't know what to do when he got it because he knew it was undeserved so made that lame ass pose and barely even smiled when getting it. Durant didn't work for his accolades and he knows it. I'd be surprised if how beta he is doesn't haunt him everyday
>>77775113
>Although the Bird exception allows teams to exceed the cap, a team cannot necessarily use free cap room to sign free agents and then re-sign its own players via Bird rights. A team with a Bird free agent is assigned a "free agent amount" or cap hold worth either 190% of his previous salary (for a player with a below-average salary) or 150% of his previous salary (for an above-average salary). For players coming off a rookie-scale contract, the amounts of those cap holds are 250% and 200%, respectively.
how will the cavs defense be this season?
>>77775115
BASED U.K. EXPOSING THE.........
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>>77775105
Exactly he's also retired, if the spurs weren't winning championships or even close. Do you really think Duncan would have stayed?
>>77775144
>he doesnt remember the spurs dark days
2008-2012 was tough bro
HEY GUYS, IM GETTING MARRIED. I ASKED DURANT TO BE MY RINGPADDER, HE SAID YES LOL
>>77775173
Kek
>123 posts
>30 posters
>>77775088
That's a good question. I think he might be. You could make an argument for Oscar Robertson or maybe Wade or Stockton if you wanted to but Curry is up there.
Top 10 all-time WS48 for players below 6'6 (since 1957 with at least 10k minutes through age 32):
- Chris Paul
- Oscar Robertson
- Jerry West
- James Harden
- John Stockton
- Steph Curry
- Sam Jones
- Sidney Moncrief
- Adrian Dantley
- Dwyane Wade
Which would be more surprising?
Warriors not making the Finals
Celtics and Cavs not making the finals.
>work so hard to get gordon gayward
>get cucked hard by danny ainge
>>77775224
>No Steve Nash
Get the fuck out scrub
Discussion Question: Who is going to break the 1972-73 Philadelphia 76ers for most losses in 2017-18 season?
>>77774267
>LeRest ever winning MVP again ever.
Who's better?
(Prime wade)
>>77775194
Really makes you think doesnt it
Do the raptors even stand a chance to win the playoffs..let alone the Eastern Conference?
>>77775274
Wade, Westbrook, CP3, the list goes on.
My opinion for the top 5 best Point Guards in the league. 1. Russell Westbrook. 2. Stephen Curry 3. Kyrie Irving. 4. John Wall. 5. Damian Lillard
Comment to see if I should change rankings.
>>77775298
Yes
I think.
Maybe.
Uhh....
>>77775320
>kyrie over wall
>lillard over conley
stfu
>>77775320
1. Wall
2. Westbrook
3. Lillard
4. Kyrie
5. Curry
>>77775349
>dame below memley
Lol
>>77775317
Between wade and curry maggot
>>77775363
B A S E D
W E
A
L
L
N O W
>>77775363
>1. Wall
>>77775243
It's a top 10 in a statistic. I didn't make the numbers up myself. Win Share really, really, really hates Nash's defense.
>>77775390
Win share isn't an evaluation of talent and you're a retard for incorrectly using advanced stats like a retard.
wall kawhii griffin lebrn
^these will be your mvp candidates
>>77775388
Only ones who don't rate Wall is us because of the hall of fame meme but memes aside Wall is the best PG in the league
>>77775416
I'm not saying it's the final word on who is the best. If I did think it was an evaluation of talent, I would have said CP3 is the best, which I don't think is true. It's an interesting starting point.
DO THE JOHN
WALL
JOHN
WALL
JOHN
WALL
JOHN
WALL
Why is GoZoloft shilling Wall?
Which top 3 rebuild is better?
Lakers- Ball, Ingram, Randle
76ers- Fultz, Embiid, Simmons
Suns- Booker, Jackson, Chris
>>77775477
>someone besides me knows this song
right on fampai
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lvkrwlLHPq4
can somebody remind me who the pressure is on?
>>77775520
>tfw my thiccie ex danced this song when it came out
I mentioned john wall offhandedly and she started doing the stupid arm thing ;-;
>>77775538
its on RINGPADDER!
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because the west got better, and, the cavs fleeced the memetics.
>>77775363
1.Westbrook
2.Wall
3.kyrie
4.Curry
5.Lillard
if we're talking pure pg's it's wall first cp3 second
>>77775564
lmao if wall had the usage rate and freedom that westbrook had last season he could average a triple double too
wall>westbrook
>>77775584
Wall gets fewer rebounds than Curry
#HBD #GOAT #BlackMamba Happy 39 birthday to former Lakers great and GOAT Kobe Bryant. Kobe Bryant named the 2007-08 NBA MVP.
>>77775513
Sixers easily if their top 3 stay healthy
The hypocrisy of Lebron fans that are bashing Kyrie astounds me.
If Lebron leaves: He already gave Cleveland their 1st ever Championship. Now onto his next challenge. #GOAT
Kyrie leaves: Snake ass bitch. Coward. Without Lebron, he's nothing. No more rings for him.
>>77775564
>2. Wall
Did anyones sides just go missing
>>77775363
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA
John Wall is a shook bitch 8-23 FG, 1-8 3Pt, 1-2 FT game 7 kekekekkekekeke my SIDES ARE IN ORBIT WAHOO
>>77775513
blehhhhhhhhh. definitely not the Lakers and it's hard to pick the Sixers when we don't know if they'll be healthy. I guess I go with the Suns but blehhhhhh.
Teams I'm rooting for- Inspired by me
Whoever is winning
>>77775621
oh idk maybe cause they got a fucking 7 footer on their team???????
>>77775694
come on, dude. Gortat is the same height as Pachulia.
Wall just does not grab a lot of rebounds. that's OK, he's still a top 5 point guard in the league, just means he's not going to average a triple double which isn't that meaningful a stat anyway.
>>77775652
>it's a "Anon thinks the samefagging autists on /nba/ are the perfect representation of everyone" episode.
People are unironically listing john wall over cp3 in current pg discussions
sad days
>>77775748
>>77775739
wait so you were talking about curry getting more rebounds but then you switch to westbrooks triple double? well anyone in the league can average 10+ rebounds if the whole team let him snatch rebounds like okc does for westbrook
can somebody post hte /nba/ BLACKED.com account email and password?
>>77773772
>yfw Giannis gets past the Leltics and into the ECF
>>77775822
Curry getting more rebounds than Wall is evidence that Wall is not a good rebounder. Being a bad rebounder makes it difficult to average 10 rebounds a game, which makes it difficult to average a triple double, which is why Wall couldn't do it.
>>77773772
>>77773772
>>77773772
so can any of you apehoop fags explain to why some of these last couple of years trades have been ok BUT Chris Paul to the Lakers was not allowed?
>>77775850
Unless Thon improves dramatically then I'll say yes
>>77775867
(((they))) didn't want the Lakers to go to the finals and wanted LeBron to win a ring instead
>>77775863
curry averaged .3 more rebounds than wall. fucking .3, not even a whole rebound more. fuck outta here thinking curry is rodman
>>77775867
because New Orleans was owned by the league at the time
>>77775629
>Kobe's Birthday
>no Kobeposting at all the whole day
lel let me fix this real quick
>People are using RPG to compare Point Guards
lmao
>>77775917
however good a rebounder Curry is, Wall is a worse rebounder
>>77773960
>56.6% from two, 45.4% from three
It's not even fair
23/10/4 vs 25/7/4
whos better?
>>77774095
Not as good as 50-40-90
>>77775940
Well, no, it was because someone said that Wall would be able to average a triple-double, which he would basically need to get rebounds to do
>>77775959
25/7/4
Happy Birthday 5x Champion
>>77775959
need more stats than that
>>77775959
23/10/4. More rounded is better, imo.
What's wrong with you people? Is there ever a moment you guys aren't arguing in a vicious and vile way?
>>77775959
Steph has a better +/-, better defender, can work good off the ball
>>77775994
fuck off
Happy birthday to the 3rd all time leading scorer
The Bucks will be better than the Celtics next season. Celtics have too much roster turnover, Bucks are going to be healthy and everyone on that team is going to improve from last year. Book it.
>>77775994
what, we're all just going to come here and fucking agree with each other?
Curry- Averages a triple double when it matters, in the finals
Westshitempty- Statpads in the regular season, flounders completely when it matters
Happy Birthday to the 4th place scorer All-Time in the playoffs
>>77776015
>better defender
john wall got 38 total votes (14 first place) for all defensive team and curry got 3 total (0 first place)
fuck outta here, curry couldnt guard my dick if it could dribble a basketball
>>77775932
Los Lakers fans really need to stop embarassing themselves making these ugly pictures and posting them on my board.
the harry alliance and /wl/ will be getting the 77777777 get
>>77776062
the Wizards were a worse defensive team when John Wall was on the court last year
>>77776082
this
Happy Birthday to the 1997 slam dunk Champion
>At the time of data collection, Leonard ranked No. 91 in ESPN.com's defensive real plus/minus (DRPM)—a shocking placement after a top-10 finish in 2015-16. He sat just outside the top 40 in NBA Math's defensive points saved (DPS). And though opponents shot worse against him as an individual, the San Antonio Spurs were allowing 8.5 fewer points per 100 possessions with him off the court, giving him an on/off differential that topped only four qualified players.
No meme stats will remove the fact that John Wall is one of the elite defenders in the league.
>>77776089
>b-b-but the team was worse!
fuck outta here again, spurs were worse defensively with kawhi on the court vs off but obviously we all know kawhi is the best defender in the league.
>inb4 draymond got DPOY though!
the players voted for kawhi and thats all that matters, the players vote.
>>77776082
>Harry Aliiance
Cringe
>/wl/
even more cringe, Fuck the Warriors
happy kobe day
literally forever better than lebron
why couldn't the cavs get my nig John Wall
get you a wife by the time you are 25 or the loneliness will hit you
>>77776108
the Kawhi situation last year (from a +/- perspective) was really weird and had a lot to do with the way that Pop uses substitution units. He spent a ton of time on the court with really bad defenders, and the substitutes who came on the court for him were all really good defenders, AND there was weird sample-size chicanery that doesn't usually show up
but those are all very specific circumstances about the season that you can point to that explain why his defensive +/- was bad
Happy Birthday to the 2x Olympic Gold Medalist
>>77776117
john wall is a juggernaut and really fun to play with on 2k
>>77776152
it was mostly opposing teams putting whoever kawhi was guarding in the corner and playing 4 on 4, thats why players shot bad against kawhi individually but were able to score on bum ass aldridge, green parker etc
>>77776151
>Marriage
Happy Birthday to one half of the most dominant duo the NBA has ever seen
>>77776125
I already responded to someone else about this but: there are reasons that you can point to about why Kawhi's defensive on/off was bad last year. Unless there are some similar reasons for John Wall - and maybe there are, I don't know of any - it's hard for me to look and say that he was really a good defender when his team played worse defense with him on the court. It doesn't mean that he's necessarily a bad defender but it does need to be explained IMO.
>>77776151
>implying
You cant sit there with a straight face and tell me you would rather have curry guard an opposing PG instead of wall. wall is bigger and quicker than curry. curry is blessed that he has draymond on help defense to cover his mistakes
>>77776253
Wall absolutely has the tools to be a great defender. If he locks in for one play, he can probably play amazing defense. But he has not actually played consistently good defense in the NBA so far.
>>77774443
whoa
never forget
>>77776406
A top 10 player in the league and then Kawhi Leonard. Nice picture
>>77776406
I could look at pictures of Harden getting blocked all day
1. Curry
2. Westbrook
3. Kyrie
4. Wall
Power Gap
5. CP3
This list is not debatable
>>77776639
Finally someone who agrees with me
>>77776639
>Westbrook that high
>No Harden
>>77776677
>Thinking Harden will play PG this season
cp3 shouldnt be in any top whatevers except top chokers all time. fuck this dude.
>>77776639
i wouldnt say power gap but this list isbasicaly perfect
>>77776710
t. clips
>>77776639
finally a reasonable ranking
I really think there's a clear 1-2 in the East right now.
Cleveland and Milwaukee.
Kobe is garbage and Michael Jordan did steroids
>>77776710
>blames cp3 for teams' failures in playoffs
how new are you
>>77777138
No.
>3-6
>advanced stats
>>77777195
are you serious bruh? cp3 is one of the biggest playoffs chokers in recent history
CP3 is top 5 pg and top 10 all time
Solid argument fagtron you sure showed me with that swift deflection
>>77777222
Nice get
>>77777250
thanks fag
>>77777222
besides that okc series he's been pretty universally great during playoffs
i mean he just averaged 25/10/5 this last year, PGs can't really carry teams like other positions can
>>77777296
unfortunately, the only playoff stats that matter on /nba/ are clutchness and snakeness
>>77775552
>tfw its starting to get cold and no thiccie to cuddle with
>tfw my yui body pillow has seen better days
we're all gonna make it spursbro, i hope
>>77777197
toronto is 4th after Boston. sorry, just facts.
Tracy McGrady
>>77777296
>Rockets series
>up 3-1
>choked
>good
>Portland
>broke his hand doing a dirty move
>good
>>77777398
Is the basketball version of me.
if /nba/ gets the get ill buy everyone here corndogs
>>77777483
What kind?
>>77777494
corn
Best player to never win mvp
>>77777346
that spurs game 7 game winner tho
>>77777419
>averages 21/10/4/2 on good shooting during rockets series
>whining about injury
youre reaching buddy
>>77777483
corndogs are bad. they are trash.
>tfw im gunna get the get then win the powerball later
feels good breh
>corndogs
nigga you a corndog
In this community D Wade is the most under appreciated and disrespected player in the community. If the Heat won he would've gotten FMVP with Lebron "King" James on his team and he's better than Iverson but u guys overrated him in this community do who knows why
>>77777575
you're not going to win the lottery dumbass
>>77777588
yeah i am. sold my soul last week
Cavs currently have 20 players on their roster, they'll have to drop 5 by the start of the season. Who should be cut?
>>77777588
you melon now he's not gonna share w/ you
I'm gonna get the get in the name of my Celties
>waiting for the get
Kobe ain't loyal at all
you know what's better than corndogs?
curry goat
>>77777648
We should claim the get for Kobe's birthday.
Let's all spam wew kobe as soon as the post numbers get to 680
>>77777679
kobe aint top 10 all time. barely top 20
Kobe is a sociopath but, just like everything else he does, he's still not as good at it as Jordan
Remember this shit
WEW KOBE
earth is flat
>>77777777
JR Smith is the best player in the league
>best pg in league
fuck lebron
Celties RUN the NBA
You can't stop us, SPC 4 LYFE
>>77777679
>>77777690
>20 years with one team
>not loyal
And dont bring up those trade rumors, its like telling your GF your gonna pack your shit if things dont fucking change round here
Stay based kobr. The GOAT
To think these guys are teammates now. LMAO
>>77777882
>Don't bring up well-documented "rumors" where a player threatened to leave because it hurts my narrative
Ok.
what went right?
>/mlb/ got the get
>we can't even orchestrate a get by spamming our own general properly despite this being the most spammed general
Shit's sad, we really are a bunch of fuck ups.
>>77777882
>went as far as giving the Lakers a list of teams he wanted to go to
>publicly said he was gonna go to the Bulls
>t-they're just rumors
>>77778039
>>77778076
Excuse me but did he leave the Lakers? No? Okay then.
kobe is an autist who get no pussy lol. i liked how shaq made fun of his autistic tendencies in his book
>>77778040
Nothing, 4 years later they're still at the bottom of the East
>>77773772
When did you realize the NBA was rigged?
For me it was when the Cavs got the 1st overall pick in 2013 and 2014. The odds of that happening are less than 1%.
Now that Crowder and Thomas are on the Cavs, will the Cavs and Wizards be rivals just like how the Wizards and Celtics were last year?
>>77778104
This. Shaq was the Alpha chad with the better stats and the MVPs/FMVPS. Kobe was a beta bitch boy who rode on his success.
>>77778065
Its kinda sad when Harry and his minions cant even spam for an honorable cause. Fuck this place tbhwy
>>77778104
this
he got no pussy so he had to rape lmao not even im that desperate
>>77778128
Wizards aren't even close to the Cavs level though. It's like saying the Kings are the Warriors rival.
Is Johnny Wall elite?
fuck my mom!!! i was doing so good on my diet then she brings in a sharing size pack of peanut m&ms
i ate them all..
>he's not a veteran of the 2015 SoB
>all these butthurt weebs coming out the woodwork talking shit about based kobr
Lel it will never end
>>77778159
i started it
>>77778198
based fucking kobe lmao
>>77778198
NBA Courtside 98 is literally the number one basketball game I've ever played
Based Kobe brehs
1. Has NBA record most missed shots in the regular season.
2. Has NBA record most missed game winners.
3. Has NBA record most missed buzzer beaters.
4. Has NBA record worst shot attempt to assist ratio.
5. Has NBA record as the only Finals MVP to not shoot above 50% in a single Finals game (he did it in 2009 and 2010).
6. Has NBA record worst shooting performance by any Finals MVP in history (40% shooting).
7. Of the top 10 scorers of all time Kobe has the lowest shooting percentage.
8. There are only 13 games in history where someone shot below 50% to reach 50 points. Kobe is responsible for 7 of those 13 games.
9. Has NBA record most missed shots in a playoff series (all time leader in missed shots in the playoffs).
10. Has NBA record most missed shots in a Finals (all time leader in missed shots in the NBA Finals).
11. Shoots 7/28 (25%) in the last 24 seconds in his postseason career to tie or take the lead.
12. Shoots 5/22 (23%) in the last 10 seconds in his postseason career to tie or take the lead.
13. Shot a combined 22/74 (30%) in the fourth quarters of the 2009 and 2010 NBA Finals.
14. Has 69 playoff games shooting less than 40% from the field.
15. Has 16 playoff games shooting less than 30% from the field.
16. Has only 1 regular season MVP playing in a total of 20 seasons. (That he stole from Chris Paul)
17. Has never shot 50% or above from the field in the regular season or playoffs in his entire career.
HE ISN'T EVEN TOP 2000
>>77778128
The Wizards have yet to make it past the first round
>>77778230
His Legend just keeps growing
>>77778259
Those achievements aren't even as good as Tim Duncan's.
>>77774379
desu senpai I'm pretty happy I saw that denver game live. that ending was goat
>>77778230
>>77778273
Yeah Tim Duncan has the Most Boring Player award and will never be toppled in that category
>>77778273
>le system babby duncan
You best be fooling anon
>>77778259
>1(one) MVP
>>77778291
>3-5
>>77774763
probably until tatum sits him down for the 6th man role
>>77778291
>3-5
>soon to be 3-6
>>77778151
Best PG in the east.
Better than Westbrook.
He gets no recognition because the Wizards are never on national TV.
>>77778304
>>77778315
>"I rate team awards"
>>77778304
>>77778315
>3-1
>>77777585
>In this community
>in the community
>in this community
>>77778346
MVP is a team award
>>77778375
then why did Westbrick win it this year?
>>77778384
Why didn't your mom abort you?
>>77778384
because he averaged a triple double which can't be done without his teammates
>3-6
>advanced stats
>>77778349
huh that's a funny picture because kyrie is the one that won lebitch the finals
>>77778346
>>77778349
>passes to Wade
>Passes to bosh
>Passes to miller
>Passes to Allen
>Passes to JR
>Passes to Korver
>passes to Irving
Lel statpadding lebeta will never be GOAT
/nba/ on suicide watch
boston keeps on winning
>>77778419
explains why /nba/ is so ass pained
reminder that lebron has had
>shane battier
>mike miller
>ray allen
>jr smith
>kyrie irving
>chris bosh
>james jones
>kyle korver
>kevin love
lebron is the ultimate meme chucker lover
>>77778419
>Skip Bayless
Who are the biggest ringpadders of all time?
>>77778419
>No Avery Bradley
>No Jae Crowder
>No Isaiah Thomas
>WITHOUT GUTTING THEIR TEAM
>>77778414
name 1 active player in the league who is better than him
>>77778419
>"WITHOUT GUTTING THEIR TEAM"
>literally gutted their team
>>77778440
Kevin Durant is the only one. It's extremely shameful.
>>77778476
Look no further
is this photoshopped? why is the best player in the world struggling to post up on a manlet?
>>77778440
James Jones
>>77778488
>no one can guard LeBron
>got shut down by JJ Barea
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>77778440
>le face farting hooker man
>>77778440
David West
>>77778489
can anyone give me a good reason as to why lebron and even kevin love now suck this man off so hard
>>77778497
>AIM
wew this picture screams 2000s
>LeBeta Cramps
Has there been a bigger bitch? Larry Bird would fucking clothesline and dominate LeBeta and his bitch ass
How to disappear completely?
Happy Birthday Mr. Legend. The NBA will never be the same without you
>>77778585
Radiohead?
has anyone seen harry?
>this man was able to look like Shaq because of Based Kobr
>goes to 76ers and is never the same
I wonder how many Championships Pau has won without Kobr...
>>77778659
How many has Kobshit won without Pau or Shaq?
So we're all in agreement that John Wall is the best PG in the NBA?
>>77773933
Kawhi Leonard
77778674
>how many championships has a player won without a team behind him
What kind of question is this
>>77774348
They hit on the player with the most trade value
>>77774411
If you would of got 30, ESPN would of sucked your dick
Anyone else here like both LeBron and Kobe? I just appreciate greatness.
@77778693
>why does leBITCH need teammates?
>what, you expect Kobe to win without a team?
>replying to a post made 4 hours ago
>mfw pb doesn't work anymore with the new 4chanx update
im freeballing
>>77776639
>harden not even there
>westbrook over harden
>kyrie over wall
wew
this trade is pretty win win for both teams imo....
>>77776406
That's not even the best block on Harden by a Spurs player
>>77778822
Where have you been?
>>77777893
That dick sucking, how did we not see this coming?
>>77778851
unlike 99% of /nba/ I have a jib...
summer is my busy season many anime conventions...
had to come back for this trade tho
>>77778781
Paul Smith really should have been given a chance, would have been a great QB
if someone could update me on the newest memes that ppl have forced in the last few months it woulds be much apperciated...
>>77778889
the memeing has been low grade, just wait for the regular season.
>>77778889
>3-6
>advanced stats
>>77778889
/nba/ hasnt had a good meme in a while clips. its nice to see you again though.
>>77778889
>THIS IS A GOD DREAM
>Ringpadding
That's about it
Still can't believe the 1st and last picks of the 2011 draft got swapped between their teams. Pretty wild.
>>77776710
imo now that he's no longer on my team I have to say I agree hoenslty i woulnd't be surpisezed if he was behind all of blake's injuries too...
>>77778896
>>77778897
>>77778905
>>77778909
I am both releved and dissapointed at this summer is a hot bed for forced memes...
>>77775932
>>77778889
3-5 is a 60% win rate
>>77778915
what's even more wild is that fact that even tho they were drifted int he same year kyrie is only 24 years old and IT is 32....
>>77778932
>IT is 32
>>77778943
he will be when he turns 32....
>>77778947
>he will be when he turns 32
>>77778931
>>77778909
these don't sound funny but maybe it's one of those things that you have to be there for like when my uncle died at his birthday party....
>>77778943
>>77778964
OH MY HOW LEWD
>>77778977
Sorry to hear that Clips. How have you been?
>>77778915
weew
>>77779022
burned out from traveling....
am glad something happened in the nba so I have an excuse to come back to /nba/ altho it seems pretty dead here...
>>77779057
it was pretty lively yesterday when the news first hit but yeah for the most part /nba/ has been dead this summer. what do you think about the current clippers situation?
>>77779080
off season turned out better than I thought, gonna be honest didn't see cp3 leaving but it could be good thing esp since we now have milos teleodivic aka european cp3...
if blake can stay healthy I see a 4-8th seed in the west and sneaky contender....
only thing I don't like is jerry west, he is still working for the warriros and stripped doc of his power as GM....
>>77775194
its like this every time
>Isaiah isn't as good as Kyrie
lmao, who the fuck seriously thinks Kyrie is better than IT? Isaiah is straight up the better player and has the stats to back it up.
>>77779119
Who wins on a 1 on 1 game
Thomas or Irving?
>>77779119
http://www.landofbasketball.com/player_comparison/kyrie_irving_vs_isaiah_thomas.htm
>>77777754
>>77779119
Say this again please. I love seeing fools like you double down after getting BTFO.
>>77779119
IF had one ridiculous year thanks to Horford and the Stevens system. He was nothing before boston picked him up
>>77779153
it's called a breakout year you moron, he's a late bloomer.
Steph curry and steve nash were the exact same way.
>>77779119
kyrie is better because of his age, imo IT is 32 and at the tail end of his career, kyire is so young and already so good...
>>77779168
He's 28 bruh
Why cant the season start now im getting impatient
>>77779133
taller player always wins. Wilt would destroy michael jordan 1v1, doesn't make him the better player
>>77779176
yea what comes after 28? 29 and then 30 and 31 and finally 32...
>were talking four years down the line
>>77779188
>in 4 years I'll be 30
bruh way to make me feel old
>tfw I'm the youngest poster here
All of you are old ew
>>77779151
IT has the better PER right now you baffoon.
>>77778228
man, that makes me think of riding my bike to clints house on the weekend or just in the summer.;
wew lad. dat n64 take me way back
WALKING LIVING LEGEND MAN I FEEL LIKE KOBE
>>77779223
Delicious delicious anger
>>77779223
you do know PER doesn't mean shit right?
if you went by PER then shaq is the 3rd best player of all tim....
https://www.basketball-reference.com/leaders/per_career.html
I wish I wasnt at work right now, I have all my best kobeimages in my computer
>>77779252
>My bois David and Wilt
>>77779252
Shaq is quite literally one of the greatest ever so what's wrong with this?
>>77779283
he's great but not 3rd all time great....
>>77779292
he was that dominant
>>77779306
He was also that fat and lazy as well
>go to sleep
>big daddy clips shows up
What the fuck clips!!!!
>>77779329
kyrie trade brought me back, also apperantly /nba/ discord is a real thing and ppl are posting there....
>>77779313
not lazy enough to get himself three of these(finals mvps).
how many does kobe have?
>>77774716
Welcome to /nba/ leave while you're ahead
Kyrie without his beard and moustache is the weirdest thing on flat earth.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S-aapUCRKKA
>>77779377
damn you don't realize how tall kyrie is until you see him matched up against christ bosh...
kyrie's gotta be like 6"10 or something...
>>77778497
Chuck Berry?
>>77779377
Dude looks like he's in highschool still.
>>77779418
well he's only 21 so he's just 2 years removed form high school...
>>77779428
>well he's only 21
He's 25...
>>77779435
yea which means he is 21 you don't get to be 25 without being 21....
holy shit I leave /nba/ for a few months in summer and everyons has turned retarted...
>>77779435
wait, he was in the league before lebron moved back?
wew
>>77779223
PER is basically useless and should be cited under no circumstances. It is terrible. It means nothing. You don't even need to use it, IT was better than Kyrie last season by WS48 and BPM as well, both of which are better than PER and available on basketball reference.
fuck a god dream kyrie been putting up with lebron's shit for way too long
>>77779461
>WS48 BPM
all advanced metrics are useless and belong in baseball....
the only test you need is the eye test, and my eyes tell me kyrie is better
>>77779484
I don't think they're useless. They can inform our judgments and provide context. You should never treat them as a be-all end-all or point to any particular stat as a judgment of how much a player is actually worth. But when you use them properly, they can help us understand what is going on in a deeper way. Ultimately, a stat like Win Shares or BPM is a judgment of how much a bunch of discrete events on the court contribute to winning a basketball game, and that's useful information to have. And more in-depth statistical analysis can be even more useful in terms of understanding what a player does and how they contribute to winning basketball games.
Except for PER, because PER is total garbage.
>>77778889
kobe is better than lebron is the hottest meme
>>77779540
>I don't think they're useless.
And that's why you're a retard
>3-6
>inform our judgments and provide context
>>77779347
>finals MVP
Last bastion for kobehaters, they got nothing else
LIFES A BITCH PULL THEM PANNIES TO THE SIDE NOW
Real God dream hours, who tf up???
>>77779651
Well it is the single most important trophy in basketball so...
>>77779706
Wrong
>>77779711
Finals MVP includes a ring dumbass. It's literally a ring and more. Only once has a losing player won Finals MVP and that was in the 1960s.
BALL SO HARD GOT HATERS IN THE BLEACHERS
>>77779651
which year should kobe have gotten it when he hasn't? I'll wait
>>77779731
both of nash's
>>77779737
when did nash get a finals mvp?
>most important trophy in basketball isnt the Championship trophy
>Kobe has 1 less Finals MVP than shaq
>Shaq himself said kobe was invaluable to the team and acknowledges both were Alphas
>Shaq never did shit with Penny and Anderson
>Get carried by Wade
The fuck out of here. Only reason Kobe doesnt have 3 MVPs is cause of (((rape))) charge from some white slut looking for cash
>>77779737
>>77779747
>get carried by wade
like kobe got carried by shaq?
>tfw 3 dislikes
this is a god nightmare
>>77779759
>like kobe got carried by Shaq
>>77779747
>>most important trophy in basketball isnt the Championship trophy
it literally isn't, it's the trophy thats a championship trophy + an mvp. finals mvp is literally a combination of the most important individual award and most important team award, therefore its the most important award.
>both were Alphas
if both were alphas, why did shaq overwhelmingly get all the awards? he was 3 for 3 while kobe was 0 for 3, thats a clear power fap
>>77779780
This response is how I know you werent even sentinent when the Lakers had their historic run. Kobe saved the Lakers season time after time
>implying anyone would get Finals MVP on a team with Shaq
Not even Jordan or LeBron would get one. You just dont when you have a person as powerful as shaq.
>>77779806
This. Plus there were 3 championships together. How the fuck are you suppose to split 3 finals MVP's between 2 players? 3 can't be divided by 2 it's simple math...
>>77779812
https://twitter.com/theScoreNBA/status/900211268602265600
why are bawwston fans the worst?
>play horse
>someone makes a shot
>only the guy after him has to copy the shot
>>77779832
>not playing Knock Out
Dweeb
>>77779827
saved tbqh might come in handy later
oh look the bandwagon kobe wave faggot is here
crunchyroll must be down
***yawn***
are there any link for people to get jumped into a broship?
which one is right for me?
lifelong bucks fan here
>>77779838
damn you wish you was fresh as kobe vaporwave guy
Based Kobewave poster
>>77779849
get sexed in like gowiz
>>77779831
>Celtics "fans"
>it's one guy
Wow, literally fake news.
>fresh
the 80's called
>>77779806
>they were both alphas
>i-its not important that kobe didnt win shit
>j-jordan wouldn't have either
BTFO
>he wasnt born in the late 80s/early 90s
Must suck being a faggot
>>77779891
>being a millennial
good one
>>77779885
>Kobe Didnt win shit
Umm... All NBA first team, Defensive First team and All-Star? Plus those rings too
>that image
Lel that doesnt help your arguement at all
>the 80s called
lmao this guy is just hating on my thundies and lakeys
TT > Horford
Love >> Morris
LeBron >> Hayward
JR > Smart
IT < Kyrie
Bench:
Korver > Jaylen
Zizic < Baynes
Crowderr > Tatum
Rose > Rozier
Shump > some french guy
I don't know how the Celtics beat the Cavs without injuries.
>he wasnt alive for the Three Peat
>his team hasnt even went back to back
I feel sorry for other franchises its just a blessing to be able to see wonderful things in LA let alone live here. I love my city
>Tfw 11:43
Oh no clock is about to strike 12, im a little depressed already bros tomorrow this will all be off topic. Hold me
did pb die?
damn this is a god dream
>>77779970
he probably filtered your spamming arse an long time eggo...
TOP 25
1. LeBron
2. Durant
3. Kawhi
4. Steph
5. Harden
6. Westbrook
7. Davis
8. Giannis
9. Wall
10. CP3
11. Klay
12. Kyrie
13. PG13
14. Blake
15. Butler
16. Draymond
17. Cousins
18. IT
19. Dame
20. Gobert
21. Hayward
22. Lowry
23. Love
24. Derozan
25. Millsap
>>77779983
>>77779993
i browse with images off no idea what you posted lmao no disrespect tho kid keep hustling and stay in school
>>77779989
Pretty good list actually. Only thing I disagree with is Lillard, I think he should be 17 and Cousins/Thomas should both move back a spot.
Thank you Kobe for 20 wonderful years I got to grow up seeing you play basketball and watch your entire career unfold and manifest into the Greatness that we see and others envy to this day. Thank you for your tireless dedication, work ethic and overall unmatched killer instinct and love for the game. I cannot imagine another player ever having the same effect on this city aside from Magic like you do. Thank you so much Kobe for everything and every great basketball memory you have given us. The day you retired is the day I felt like I lost a friend, I wish you nothing but the hest in all your future endavors and I hope that you have a son soon. We need a Kobe Jr in the NBA.
This Game will never be the same without you. Peace King
yo 'set yourself on fire' is some fucking dank indie pop tbqh
>>77779989
>millsap in top 25
stopped reading there. Jordan >>> Millsap
>>77779989
>steph in the top 10
opinion disregarded
thread theme
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UN3ftt-Gr24
>>77780017
>le can't play in the 4th quarter man
hes gonna get exposed so hard this season without CP3 that he wont even be considered top 30 in 2018
>this thread
Signing out
>>77779989
good list desu
>>77779975
Future superteam in the making
>>77773933
fucking faggots
wew hinkie
>celties trade away crowder for hurrving
its over senpai, idgaf about IT but crowder adds more than kyrie does, fuck this gay earth
as a celtics fan i give up this is too much danny betrayed us
how much of an impact will bradley have on the pistons
also
will Deandre fall off as a center?
>>77780073
DeAndre without Cliff Pail is gonna look like JaVale McGee compared to DeAndre with Cliff Pail. It's gonna be ugly.
>>77780083
i mean offensively yeah, but i think he can still get 10+ rpg right? their new euro pg might set up wings and Blake more imo
>>77780091
rebounds and blocks will stay the same but his ppg and shooting percentage is gonna get cut in half
>>77777043
mike "i have a blonde son" conley?
mike "my son is too white he makes his mom look black" conley?
mike "call him powder" conley?
mike "idk but he's my son" conley?
>>77777043
>those pancake tits
>he got cucked by this plain jane bitch
wew lad, dropped
NEW
NEW
NEW
NEW
>>77780177
>>77780177
>>77780177
>>77777629
signing deron williams was a mistake
>>77774443
Perfect post anon