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>>77729183
Sorry to use drumpf gif but
>>77729215
was posted on general first :^)

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>14 hrs ago

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is this the thread?

it doesnt feel like this is the thread.

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SAY IT WITH ME YANKS:

OIRISH

BALLS

>>77734214
There are more people of Irish descent in America than Ireland.

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>>77734225

>be burger
>be 0.0002% Irish

>OLE OLE OLE OLE
>THAT FEEL WHEN GUINESS RIGHT LADS???
>HAHA ITS PROBABLY MY IRISH TEMPER! HAHA
>GOD I am SO fucking IRISH

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>le cody is good meme
He's gonna get exposed by the snek

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WHERE /TMT/ AT?

$500 McGregor to win round 2 knockout. Jesus christ the reaction from every nigger on twitter will be glorious.

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Whose your fav. woman fighter? UFC or Invicta or LFA.

OIRISH BALLS

>>77734310
Ronda

>>77734322

How was this even a debate. He fucking goes limp and wasnt defending himself

>>77734342
Doesn't appear that way to me.

>>77734342
Are you stupid?

>>77734368
Grow up.

>>77734368

Wait are you serious? Is this a meme to deny it? Look at his fucking arms and eyes the dude was beyond done

>>77734370
Calm down Micheal and get your laundry ready for when your mom drops by your van for your dirty socks you fucking bum.

>>77734400
Are you seriously stupid?

>>77734248
Speaking of temper

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>>77734400
If yamasaki wasn't a shit tier ref he'd have waited 0.5 seconds and hippie boy woulda been out

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which WMMA fighter is your boy?

>>77734441

I mean I guess. He was going out regardless I dont know why people are so assmad about this

Rewatching the Nate vs Conor Twenty/20 on fight pass and am still so confused how anyone with more than two brain cells wouldn't call that a clear 48-47 for Conor.

Trowbridge is a fucking hack and shouldn't judge fights ever again.

>>77734449
Rose Namajunas

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>>77734449

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is he really gonna walk out with fucking CW belts

>>77734512
He'll probably have is entourage hold them as he walks out.

Doubt he actually brings them in the ring or holds them or anything, just more entertainment and bragging to the crowds.

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DAMN, Joanna looks like THAT?

>>77734523
Almost doesn't even look like her. Just goes to show how good she already looks without makeup. Homos need not respond.

>>77734523
the fuck they did to her face, it's even worse

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>>77734523

Slutmode JJ doesn't have shit on slutmode clawja

>>77734523

Her nose and mouth are a real problem but that pussy must be like a vice grip fuuuu

>>77734523
looks like shit

>>77734545
Just wait till the long latex boot pics come out

>>77734523
looks like a pornwhore

>>77734523
Uhh.. They made her face even worse bro.

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>>77734561

You've tickled my interest fella

>>77734600
They're on her instagram story

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What did he mean by this?

>>77734606

I have no idea how that shit works. Just checked her IG but can't see anything fun

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Wake up Floyd. It's all over.

>>77734621
is goober a /heem/ster?

>>77734626
need to check it out on the mobile app my man. Stories are not available on the pc version.

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>>77734523
Now where have I seen this get up before....

>>77734626
Get on mobile and click the little joanna circle at the top

>>77734643

I'm going to download the app just for this.

>>77734356
>>77734368
For sure my guys, half-consciously flailing your arms around like Stephen Hawking just saw a ghost is the surefire choke defense.

>>77734676

Are you stupid? Grow up.

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>>77734642

>>77734642
>admitting to watching blacked

Also, that's not the same getup you blind, retarded cuck.

>>77734696
For anyone wondering, I saw this a long time ago and was astonished so I researched it to see if it was true and it actually is totally accurate.

>>77734621
>What did he mean by this?
generating hype

>>77734651
She doesn't seem too happy about them lmao

>>77734696
>>77734707

I don't know enough about american culture and classes but aren't they all like this because they are all poor and living in shit neighbourhoods where they don't have a choice but to be gang bangers.

In aus most of the abo's are borderline savages because they have a culture of unemployment and mooching and don't even try to change and despite that they get free money for being natives.

I dunno if it's the same thing for blacks/hispanics or if they are just fucked by circumstances.

>>77734523

Holy fuck why did they do this to her.

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>>77734707

>Racist facts

nice racism, racist

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>>77734696

These. These are hate facts. Delete immediately.

>>77734749
Ya dude, they go around killing each other in record numbers every year because they are poor. There are absolutely zero poor white people who live in shitty neighborhoods. Da white man keepin em down, oppressed for 300 years, yadda yadda yadda, blah blah blah.

turby lol at least keep it mma related

I haven't seen the fight and I can't fight it online

How the fuck did Mayhem Miller submit Sakuraba?

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>>77734696

Who is your second favourite female fighter?

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Have you wished Yaya happy birthday yet?

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>>77734903
Happy birthday Yaya

>>77734918
>qt
looks like a dude to me

Look at that jaw, neck, face width, musculature

>>77734918
>anavar shoulders
pass

>>77734696
Wow Trump was right Mexicans DO like to rape.

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>>77734918

>tfw yaya will never sex bully you

heem me

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>>77734951
>>77734966
idk what you mean

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>>77734791
Way to not even answer the question whilst doing your best /ppl/tard impression

Why are hardcore conservatives so defensive, just as bad as the easily triggered lefties.

>>77734974
I mean it's completely disproportional the amount of rape they do.

>>77734989
calendarni**er nobody cares about wmma fighters they all look like dudes

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>>77734980
I know that feel

>>77735011
leave him alone man he's lonely

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>>77735011
Who?

>>77734918
>>77734980
>>77734981

jesus. this bitch has awoken a dormant part of me that wants to act helpless while being toyed with and emasculated, i want to scream no while she puts my orgasming penis inside her with no protection

"Nooo! You can't do that, you'll get pregnant!! NOOO STOP STEALING MY SPERM!!"

>>77734918
looks like she's punching with limp hands

>>77735025
ROASTIE

>>77734523
>how do you wanna look
>have you seen Pretty Woman
>say no more senpai

>>77735034
She's 5'4 m8. She can't rape you unless you're manlet skellington

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>>77735071
Nah

>>77735014
why do these mma girls have such nice asses

i watch the olympics every year and most athletes have flat asses (except maybe beach volleyball but they're not really athletes)

what makes fighting such a bubble butt magnet

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mmmmmm

>>77735084
dennis siver is about that height and he could rape brock lesnar

>>77735084
thanks for ruining my fantasies. being tall but beta is the worst

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>>77735096

>>77735122
looks like a boy who accidentally took some estrogen pills

>>77735122
Kailin-Curran-Leaked-10-t(...).jpg

>>77735094
You are severely misinformed friend. Beach volleyball has the worst asses in all of sports. Those chicks are stick figured with a few chicks with some bunda. Indoor volleyball has way more bunda. Also sprinters have bunda, bike sprinting has best bunda of any sport, low weight class oly lifting has bunda, diving bunda, wrestling bunda. there's plenty of bunda at the Olympics

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>>77735110
Have you heard of Megan "Skyscraper" Anderson

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>>77735094
>>77735151

The 100m sprinters' bundas are fucking out of this world. They all seem so thicc around that area.

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>>77735212

>>77734523
HNNNNNNNNNNG

>>77734523
What rap video is this?

>>77735281
forgot the e, lad.

>>77734626
>>77734643
someone webm this

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STANN IS LEAVING THE UFC COMMETARY JOB

https://twitter.com/arielhelwani/status/899656604668264452

>>77735295
this

>>77735311
Now fuck face Grisham is taking over...

>>77735200
yeah but most of them are black so i don't watch it

>>77735223
Fake teeth?

>>77735200
That's quite clearly photoshopped, doofus.

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>>77735358

>>77735311
Guess he's going to start his career in politics. Chael said the Republican party has asked Stann to pursue a political career.

>>77735385
oh so now stann can be even more insufferable

>>77735311

He should be replaced by Cruz or DC, not the Todd Grishlet faggot. Should be a fighter.

>>77735410
>Cruz
fuck off

>>77735429

Grow up.

>>77735440
Calendar you sure love telling people to grow up lol

>>77735449

>Calendar
Grow up.

>>77735459
everybody on heem is one poster according to that guy

>>77735473

There are a few spergs like that, like gay pettis bong who thinks everyone that bullies him is the same person

>>77735486
You the based bong that told spergOP to settle down, mentioning "sperg" is term of endearment?

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>>77735501

Yes, and how and why did you remember that? That was a while ago.

>>77735501
>entioning "sperg" is term of endearment
sperg is a term of autism and if you call anonymous posters by sperg names you're probably autistic

Is McGruber /ourguy/?

>>77735507
Made me chuckle when NotePad got all defensive from others and you came in and kept him in check, keep up the good work Bongistani!

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>>77735524

Cheers lad, it's because spergy is a good kid really and didn't seem to realise that reacting to people revving him up would just make it worse.

I mean look at coral springs.

>>77734248
Why are Irish Americans so fuckig annoying?

>>77735547
>people revving him up
lol

>>77735547
Coral spergs brought too much attention to himself, now docksperg tries to get him banned any chance he gets. He's alright when he's not getting triggered by Canada or on rampant Schaubposting

>>77735553
because most of them are from the northeast which is the worst area of the country

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>>77735566

docklet is the worst of the worst. I'd literally rather read coral springs posts all day than some angry frustrated manlet.

>>77735553
During the world cup it's normal for people play up their heritage, everyone does it, but nobody is as bad as the Irish. St Patrick's day is usually ruined every day because of people that have an Irish surname using it as an excuse to loot, steal, fight and rape.

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Demolition Man bless lads

How do I become famous like "Coral Spring", "Docklet" and "Calendarnigger"? Do I become namefag or just talk about myself all day?

>>77735612
That's what reem thinks about your threads, bud.

>>77735618
Reply to every single person that gives (You)'s, multiple proxies to samefag,make early threads,and derail any relevant conversation

>>77735618
the only one of those people i think actually exist are and aren't assumptions and collections of autist retard focus is the calendar guy and he barely posts. i assume people just pretend to be him like they do with the dock guy and the shawb guy. (you) hungry autist just pretend to be heem characters for (you)s and the character becomes stronger but never really is a single person

>>77735661
I like this narrative

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>>77735621
I'm not spergop buddy

Pre-fight record
Mayweather: 49–0 (26 KOs)
McGregor: 0–0 (0 KOs)

The year of the meme.

>>77735689
The OP is very important to you

>>77735699
>>77735689
lmao

>Anthony Joshua is ducking Deontay Wilder, will fight UFC fighter instead.
hahhahaha

>>77735712
Source: Your arse. He's fighting Pulev because he's mandatory.

>>77735727
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/boxing/40999174

>>77735727
>He's fighting Pulev because
because he's ducking Wilder

How fertile is Arianny after all the drugs and birth control?

why does muay thai have such a retarded stance? nobody uses that stance in actual fights (mma/kickboxing/shootfighting). it's purely a muay thai thing. it kinda reminds of the tkd stance which exists just because of tkd's rules which heavy favour headkicks and nothing else matters.

>>77735712
>>77735744

>Ducking Wilder

That nigger literally can't box

>>77735740
>"The only thing that they can't do is submissions but they can kick, elbow, bite - whatever they want."

nice, he might be bullshitting but if he isnt he definitely has some balls

>>77735324
YASSS

>>77734974

Everyone likes rape, even the victims.

>>77735680
its the truth. how many times have you pretended to be adan? how many times have you seen other canadians flags pretend to be adan?

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SCHAUB WHEN?

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jk5IpMWaxoo
mma hour coming up live

>>77735840
If Schaub was a stockbroker he'd be George Soros. The guy predicted Rich Piana would die of an overdose.

If I had more than £4 in my bank account I'd be betting on Conor winning just because Schaub said so.

>>77735838
I don't even know who this Adan is

>>77735895
i just told you. he's a made up heem personality that heem posters pretend to be for (you)s

>>77735866
Damn, I'd watch but it'd kill my data phone's plan

>>77735866
the shiny shekel hour is my favorite

>>77735911
Well how would I know who is pretending to be him when I don't even know who he is

>>77735866
who's on it please?

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An hero?

>>77735924
>kavanaugh
>steve collins
>cody garbrandt
>derrick lewis
>kevin lee first up
I think there is a boxing official as well

>>77735866
>>77735912
>>77735913
Stop shilling your garbage fucking kike sob show

>>77735924
Tomorrow on #TheMMAHour: @John_Kavanagh @Cody_Nolove @Thebeast_ufc @MoTownPhenom @BrianStann @DavidGbd @loudibella in studio @MickK_music &

>>77735968
butthurt

>>77735968
>Hating on le jew journalist
Heem

>>77735980
>>77735981
Kike shill

>>77735985
cry

>>77735990
Kikeboy does plenty

I'm scared people I hear people say "oh my god he's been knocked out in 5 of his 6 last fights, CTE!" is it really that bad to be knocked unconscious just a handful of times?

I'm asking because I've been KO'd 3 times this year and one of them I was out for several minutes. Am I at risk of CTE?

>>77735997
It wasn't from MMA by the way, I got knocked out with a baseball bat. I used to sell coke and would often get jumped by gangs.

>>77735997

The chin needs to be tucked

>>77735997
chin needs to be tooked buddeh

>>77735997
>>77736006
>this
>entire
>post
But to answer your question, I think once is enough. It's no wonder why even after a single knockout loss, an athlete's success decreases.

>>77734703
this has to be a joke, right?
>admitting to watching blacked
>knows the underwear worn in blacked

>>77735997
Oh for sure my man getting shadowrealmed a couple times in a year is good for your brain

>>77735997
>>77736006
How do you know they didn't stomp out your unconscious head? Not worth getting in street fights senpai

>>77735997
>I was out for several minutes.

you have brain damage

every concussion causes minor brain damage. every knock unconscious causes worse brain damage.

stop getting hit in the head asshole.

>>77736030
It's porn either way. You're watching a girl fuck another dude regardless. Not sure why people care if the dude is black specifically. Maybe these guys are actual cucks that are into white dudes. Gay as hell if you ask me, but it's okay.

Favorite WMMA fighter you want to see BLACKED?

>>77736056
Would you think any different if you had a 16 year old sister getting fucked by black guys?

>black man and a jew discussing how to rob a white european man

>>77736041
>>77736055

I had a scan, I'm pretty sure if I was stomped on there would have been a fracture at least.

Also I don't have a choice. I can't get a job and can't get financial support so I have to sell drugs once in a while. It's either take the risk or be homeless.

I'm just saving money now to move to a nicer neighbourhood cuz here it's full of Somalians and they have no honour, complete animals here.

>>77736069
I wouldn't, no. I don't have a sister though. Do you have a sister? Would you want your sister to fuck certain guys? Once again, pretty gay i m o

>>77736076
Look into staffing agencies dummy

>>77736066
pvz or joanna

heemcord link?

>>77736083
I'd prefer my sister didn't fuck black guys, but in the end nothing you can do about it

>>77736056
not that. It's that >>77734703 responded to >>77734642 giving him shit for admitting to watching blacked, and then admits to watching blacked himself by saying "that's not even the right outfit"

>>77736084
I've been on one for the last two years and never get any offers. I've been called in a couple of times and got rejected. Try being 30 with a criminal record and no experience/qualifications.

>>77736076
ive been stomped and have no fractures

every hit in the head causes you mild brain damage, nothing good comes from it

you dont become a better academic from getting hit in the head

stop selling drugs asshole go and work an honest job, move away and start over with nothing if you need to

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>>77736066
Joanna

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Kevin Lee is so full of himself.

>>77736107
then you have to be a laborer/forklift driver/truck driver/ fucking uber driver

deal with it

>>77736056
whenever I see that I always assume those comments play into the taboo aspect of it and enhances their experience

>>77736134
Wow didn't know she was a whore. DROPPED.

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Anyone think this whole eclipse thing is pretty suspicious? The entire Sun being blocked off for hours? And we're not even supposed to look because it's """dangerous"""? What exactly are they trying to hide?

>>77736145
i believe this

>>77736144
>laborer
Tried.
>driver
no car or license.

You think people are joking when they say there's a job crisis in the UK?

>>77736158
I know right why can't we look?

Imagine being a chinlet

>>77735997

>being a chinlet

>>77736171
wtf does "tried" mean in that context? like you lacked the conviction to move shit around all day?

how about go get a license? fuck it youre retarded

>>77736165
Why would any non black watch blacked porn? The purpose of watching porn is to simulate yourself having sex right? How can that be achieved when there's a black guy throughout the video?
>Literal cucks

>>77736171

Imagine having a life this shit

>>77736187
i bet id knock you out with one strike. i'd delete your chin before tou even started fighting, so a gust of wind wobbles you from then on out. ya never had a chance kid. *points and laughs at stiffened spasming body*

>>77736212
Unless it's a pov, this can't be true. That's a terrible argument and it's really making me suspicious about you.

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Anthony Rumble Johnson has only ever lost to rear naked jokes.

How does this happen?

MAYWEDDA MCGREGAH EMBEDDED WHEN

>>77736230
Gives up when he's gassed. Just rolls over.

>>77736212
>The purpose of watching porn is to simulate yourself having sex right
no not really

Did Conor waste money on Dillon? The rematch against Diaz never went to the ground until the end

>>77736230

He's just a brainlet

>>77736224
>POV
I don't have black thighs or dicc
>>77736250
Explain

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>derrick lewis doesn't pay for PPV's
cut from the roster when

>>77736278
Derrick Lewis IS the PPV'S

>>77736270
No, I'm saying that, unless someone is looking for POV of an actor that doesn't look like them on purpose, then your argument makes no sense and is very poorly thought-out. I think you're fucking with me. Cucking with me, if you will.

>>77736188
>wtf does "tried" mean in that context? like you lacked the conviction to move shit around all day?

I'm on a waiting list there are no jobs available.

>how about go get a license? fuck it youre retarded

Yes let me fork out money for lessons, license, insurance, car etc. out of thin air.

Let me guess you think millenials are poor because of avocado toast?

Fuck your attitude man you live in a fantasy world.

>>77736262
If he's so dumb why does he have a successful marijuana business worth 400 mil?

>>77736270
porn is essentially an external stimulus, masturbation is the simulation of sex. You of course do have the option to place yourself inside of porn but not sure thats the normal thought process behind it

>>77736296
license costs $fuckall

you go and get a job and they supply the van/car/truck

why are you so retarded?

labor hire companies dont have waiting lists, theyre always taking workers because everyone quits after a day

everything you say is shit cause youre a junkie faggot, now fuck off before i ice you

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>>77734501
Shev bless

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>MayMac not even sold out
Have we passed peak Goobert?

"Anti-Brazilian" Derrick Lewis

>>77736230
>TKO (eyepoke)

The absolute state of this semen slurping sport

>>77736335
Steve Mazagatti
There's your answer

Has Derrick mentioned anything of his back? Seems too soon to fight unless it was BS excuse like Browne fight nearly shitting himself, later said it was broken rib

>>77736330
Conor became a parody of himself after Nate choked him out.

>>77736358
he says its at 80% but he's confident its good enough to fight

>Derrick Lewis plays FIFA
Good lad

Brian Stann is leaving, lads

http://www.bjpenn.com/mma-news/brian-stann/breaking-brian-stann-leaving-ufc/

>>77736421
Who will they replace him with, another mandrama retard

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Rate my OC

>>77736430
Obviously Grisham and Anik

>>77736430
Mike Goldberg

>>77736432
terrible.

>>77736432
Is your name Forrest Griffin

>>77736432
Embarrassingly bad, looks like a shitty cable drama

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>>77736432

no embdedded yet...

EMBEDDED
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CqHbck9akOM

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>>77736532
nice try leaf

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Jones-Gus 2 headlining UFC...........

218 DETROIT

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>>77736432
lel

>>77735636
>floyd not /box/
>conor not /wwe/

>>77736551
Who will oezdemir fight...

>>77736551
gus is finished

>>77736581
destroyed texerriar

>he's finished

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Wake up Floyd...

>>77736563
he gets to shadowrealm dc if he decides to come back

>>77736581
Punished Gus vs. Motivated Jon Jones
I think Gus would at least get some real good hits in, considering the fact that DC did.

>>77736618
DC won't return for long time

HIS

HEAD

IS

TOO

SMALL

>Floyd piggybacks on Conor to bet on himself and win again
Dude's smart

king kevin lee btfo ferguson

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alright alright which one of you assholes is this lol

who is your best woman mma fighter?
let's get some real answers to this instead of the stereotypical trying to be funny nonsense.

>>77736727
Probably you since no one else other than the commenter would bother posting such an unremarkable unfunny comment here.

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>>77736626
LEGGO GUS

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>>77736742

>>77734501
i claim female conor as waifu

>>77736761
>this is considered an uppercut in MMA

As a boxing fan, I am cringing

>>77736792
purposely inflammatory comment

Are there any good MMA websites? BloodyElbow covers WWE and literally bans you if you make fun of them for covering it

>>77729183
This picture triggers the Gracie fags. I love it.

Watching Polaris 5, who is this announcer? He's hilariously bad but I kind of like him.

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>>77736788
>>77736845
The h8r begins projecting his hate of a superior man

>>77736866
>the cuck has been triggered into protecting his man

works ever time

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Is this the end result of CTE?

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What's your best favorite Paige Vanzant fight?

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>>77736885
Not triggered. Just pity you

>>77736866
>>77736885
I appreciate you two getting pissy over this shit because I get to rewatch these awesome finishes without fail every single time.

>>77736907
>t. triggered cuck

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>>77736066
what does that mean?

>>77736318
>australia
>knows anything about the real world

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Wait did Stipe Miocic (UFC Heavyweight champion) play baseball? did any other UFC fighters play baseball?

>>77736943
Ah. The Segal. Great kick.

>>77736553
I don't get it why is Griffin relevant?

>>77736969
fatty lol

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Cowards gang up on the individual.

Why do Redditors hate Bisping so much?

>77737011
coward

Hey pussy, are you still here?

>>77734322
Chiesa fucking sucks.

Glad /myboy/ Lee rekt him.

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>mfw all those people who Bisping in the past are a bunch of washed up roided losers

>>77736792
Those are actually called Bolo Punches, so no they are not considered uppercuts

Why do casuals bandwagon Bisping so hard?

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Thoughts on Brendan Schaub's MMA career?

>>77737031
For sure Thales Leties was just a sparring session my man

>>77737045
Casuals hate Bisping because theyre mandrama kiddies who get flustered by his banter and were begging whittaker wrecked his knee so they could see their mandrama superfight between Romero and Bisping

>>77737045
Bandwagon on hating him? You either die a hero or live long enough to become the villain

>>77737052
Chinlet

>>77737056
Lol Bisping is mandrama 100% with his stepping into octagon with Whittaker shouting horrible rehearsals

>>77737056
This is the spammer.

>>77735997
You just need some BrainForce®. It'll protect you and even heal the damage. That's BrainForce®, available at all good retailers.

thought i'd ask here since you guys might know about self-defense

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uS7F2NJkNW8

why are they holding his head like that?

>>77737021
Its not just Redditors its one really pathetic loser who used to spam Jacare all the time and spams Woodley too. He larps as a black guy because of how pathetic his own life is. I feel bad for him since this place is the only place he gets any attention in life. Sorry for his incoming meltdown

49-1

Is AlphaBrain any good?

Rogan says he did double blind placebo controlled studies and proved it improves your memory

>>77737091
maybe so he cant headbutt him in the face?

How is Bisping vs Romero a "mandrama superfight" it's a great matchup for both parties, would be great show for us too

MMA fighters who take inspiration from or even do mandrama are the best.
>tfw the Gracies got rekt by a pro-wrestler.

>>77737071
And you're the impressionable nerd that gets triggered by it. Fight fans want Bisping-GSP

>>77737072
Grow up

>>77737112
Calm down spammer (Coral Springs) before you have a meltdown.

>>77737112
Lmao nobody wants to see Bisping vs gsp
>Bisping d-deserves his moneyfight!

>>77737110
This

Its what got Chael ahead
Its what got Conor ahead
Its what got Floyd ahead

Its funny seeing a bunch of non-mandrama fans try to talk crap. It ends up being terrible. Like anyone from Team Alpha Male

>>77737128
I'm not even the guy you're replying to and I'm not the spammer.

>>77736551
Yeaahhhboi
It's Jones vs The guy who almost beat Jones

Don't pretend you're not excited, cuckbois.

>>77737110
>>77737134
all of them stole ric "the goat" flair's gimmick

Gus will Heem jones

Redpill me on the Gracies

>>77737130
I do you salty T-Wood cuck

>>77737106
there's three swat guys twice his size and he's handcuffed, you think he's gonna try to escape via headbut

>>77737142
You are literally the janitor and you literally delete threads/posts you don't like.

4chins is shit with you in charge, Oral.

>>77737128
This is the actual spammer

>>77737130
Reddit nerds certainly aren't everyone nor are they anyone the UFC cares about

>>77737091
Maybe it's psychological. Like grabbing a kitten by the scruff