NFL general - Chefs edition

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1st for 10-6

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2nd for fantasy.

Here's a league for you guys.

14 team league, .5 ppr
http://fantasy.nfl.com/registration/privateleaguejoin?leagueId=5198317
pass: mootisgay

7 spots left

>>77650165
Patriots > everyone else.

Water is wet.

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>>77650227
Not so fast!

>>77650243
There is LITERALLY nothing wrong with raising another man's child.

>>77650243
>6' and 5'10"

>>77650278
He sort of looks like a fusion of Brady Quinn and Eli

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Reminder Cam Newton is a top 5 QB

So why haven't dolphins signed Kaepernick yet?

>>77650477
In QBs ranked 20-25.

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>Carr abandoning his QB career for music

Raiders regretting the Carr contract yet?

>>77650499
No one wants toxic on their team and he's king of it.

>>77650524
Carr is going to form a Christian rock quartet with Russell Wilson, Tim Tebow, and Phillip Rivers and they will win all of the Grammys.

>>77650583
I would unironically love this

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>Lost before the season even started

>>77650583
Phil has a chorus of christian children to contribute as well.

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>yfw da falcons win da superb owl

>>77650840
>28-3

>>77650280
There is if you don't inseminate his/her mother with your own seed.

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>>77650840
>28-3
that failcons had their chance and they blew it. another 20 more years before they get to the owl.

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>Seahawks reportedly had wanted to draft Andy Dalton but Pete decided not to because he just wasn't seeing enough to justify to a first round pick
>Seatle sports radio talked about whether Dalton could have brought the team more success
>they agree that if Dalton made it to SB48 that the Hawks would have won with him, but doubt he'd get past the NFC CG against Niners
>definitely wouldn't reach a second Superbowl
>don't think that he would have been as good a fit with Marshawn

I wonder how the Bengals would do with Russell Wilson.

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>>77650858
>>77650866
2017 is the revenge tour

>>77650912
They would've at least won a playoff game by now

Are there any Chargerfags left on /sp/?

>>77650924
more like the 8-8 tour

>>77650943
Yes, but it's just me and an Aussie.

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>>77650924

>>77650943

yeah

present

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>>77650840
>mfw that Falcons blew it after shittalking my Hawks

Ringless bitches HAHAHAAHAHAAHAHA

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>>77650924
I hope that Super Bowl shattered the Failcons spirits. I hate those fuckers since they ruined a potential 18-1 from the Panthers. Fuck Matt Ryan, nignog Jones, and the rest of the >28-3 team. Hope they continue to choke until the day I die.

DEREKCARRMUSIC.COM

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>>77650912
I legitimately remember people locally being pissed that the Hawks didn't draft Dalton. I remember hearing one guy on the radio compare it to the 1991 draft where Chuck Knox wanted to draft Favre in the first round, but the ownership veto'd him and they picked Dan McGwire instead. He actually thought Dalton was going to be the next Favre and win multiple super bowls for the Bengals.

really dodged a bullet there.

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>>77650840

>>77650279
>Best WR corps in the league
>No Offensive Line
>No Running Back
>Under performing Quarterback
>Overrated Linebackers
>Above Average Corners
All of these Apply to the Giants and NONE apply to the Pats

>>77650292
Michael Jordan plays football now?

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>Thomas Davis will play his entire career for the Panthers

yay

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>>77650700
Drink more Kool-Aid, faggot. If Ansah is healthy then the Hyder injury is a non-issue.

This is /ouryear/.

>>77650943
here

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>>77650292
>>77650278
>PFF

>>77651426
got a better site that shows something besides raw stats?

>>77650477
Top 5 Black QB

NFL TOP 10 QBS

1. Tom Brady
2. Aaron Rodgers
POWER GAP
3. Matt Ryan
HUGE POWER GAP
4. Drew Brees
5. Derek Carr
6. Russel Wilson
7. Ben Roethlisberger
POWER GAP
8. Matt Stafford
POWER GAP
9. Marcus Mariota
10. Dak Prescott

>>77651562
>eh eh ron
lol

>>77651565
Good post keep it up anon

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>>77651562
>Dak Prescott
>Mariota
>Matt Ryan over Brees

I fucking HATE ANIME

>>77650583
You have great ideas anon

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>cowcucks will miss the playoffs and blame it on the Zeke suspension

Get ready for another 9 months of excuses

>>77651581
Ryan is objectively better than Brees at this point. Last season proves it, and you have to go with the hot hand, not past prestige

Who would you put above Dak and Mariota?

>>77651601
Cowboys fans make excuses for everything, even if they were to make the playoffs.

What else is new.

!!!NFCN!!!
1. Rodgers: 67.7 cmp%, 4,700 yards, 8.3y/a, 41 TDs, 6 INTs, 113 passer rating (MVP)
---Power Gap---
2. Stafford: 64.5 cmp%, 4,100 yards, 7.7 y/a, 29 TDs, 13 INTs, 95.9 passer rating
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3. Bradford: 65.4 cmp%, 4,000 yards, 7.3 y/a, 20 TDs, 11 INTs, 90.9 passer rating
---Power gap---
4. Burrs: 59.2 cmp%, 3,400 yards, 6.8y/a, 20 TDs, 20 INTs, 76.4 passer rating

!!!NFCE!!!
1. Dak Prescott: 65.9 cmp%, 3,800 yards, 7.8y/a, 27 TDs, 9 INTs, 100.9 passer rating
2. Kirk Cousins: 65.6 cmp%, 4,300 yards, 7.4y/a, 30 TDs, 10 INTs, 97.8 passer rating
3. Carson Wentz: 65.0 cmp%, 4,100 yards, 7.6y/a, 29 TDs, 11 INTs, 97.3 passer rating
4. Eli Manning: 64.5 cmp%, 4,450 yards, 7.8y/a, 31 TDs, 15 INTs, 95.6 passer rating

!!!NFCW!!!
1. Russell Wilson: 64.8 cmp%, 4,000 yards, 7.9y/a, 29 TDs, 10 INTs, 99.9 Passer rating
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2. Carson Palmer: 64.0 cmp%, 4,200 yards, 8.0y/a, 27 TDs, 11 INTs, 97.2
---Power Gap---
3. Bryan Hoyer: 62.7 cmp%, 3,850 yards, 7.0y/a, 25 TDs, 15 INTs, 87.3 passer rating
---Power Gap---
4. Jared Goff: 60.8cmp%, 3,600 yards, 6.9y/a, 23 TDs, 17 INTs, 82.7 passer rating

!!!NFCS!!!
1. Drew Brees: 68.2cmp%, 4,750 yards, 7.8y/a, 36 TDds, 11 INTs, 103.3 passer rating
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2. Matt Ryan: 66.0cmp%, 4,600 yards, 7.9y/a, 32 TDs, 11 INTs, 100.4 passer rating
---Power Gap---
3. Cam Newton: 61.0cmp%, 3,850 yards, 7.9y/a, 24 TDs, 12 INTs, 92.2 passer rating
4. Jameis Winston: 62.0cmp%, 4,400 yards, 7.5y/a, 28 TDsd, 17 INTs, 89.7 passer rating

---MVP voting---
1. Aaron Rodgers (22)
2. Tom Brady (17)
3t. Drew Brees (6)
4. JJ Watt (3)
5. Le'veon Bell (2)

>>77651614
Disgusting homer trash

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>>77651605
unironically Smeth

>>77651635
>2016 stats: 67.1%, 233.5 ypg, 15-8 TD/INT, 91.2 rating

This is not a top 10 QB

>>77650477
Said nobody ever.

>>77651562
>Derek Carr anywhere in the top 10
I love posting this pasta to BTFO carrfags

>Be Derek Carr
>have the best pass protecting offensive line in the league
>Be the least sacked starting QB in the league
>have a bunch of weapons around you and solid all around on offense

yet despite that

>one of the worst accuracy ratings among starting QBs
>Most intercept able passes thrown by any qualifying QB
>still hasn't posted a league average YPA
>below average QB Rating every year
>6th highest Failed Completion Percentage in the league

And this dude is the highest paid QB in the league? lmaaaooo

>>77651605
One season being better doesnt delegitimize every season where Brees outperfrmed Ryan including actually winning a Super Bowl.

As for who to put over Dak and Mariota, how about a QB thats actually played more than 1 season for Dak and a QB who can play a full season without getting injured for Mariota.

why do people think that rodgers is on the same level as brady? aaron won 1 fluke superbowl and hasnt done shit since. bradys won 5 and retards are still running around like he needs 7 to be better

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>>77651562
how the FUCK is Mariota above Prescott when Dak beat him in every major category except total TDs

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>>77651673
now tell us how you really feel

>>77651674
At this point in time who would you rather have?
Brees has been subpar for years, jacking up stats in losing efforts. He is a domebabby and only gets so many yards and TDs because all he does is pass. This is a fact.

Also those are meme reasons. Who cares if you're a rookie if you're good? You haven't given any names in their place.

>>77651694
They're very similar QBs but Dak had a better OL, and better WRs. I'd put Mariota over him because Dak is a product of the running game in Dallas.

>>77651691
He's not on the same level but he's more talented and is clearly the second best QB in the league

>>77651712

>>77651691
>fluke Superbowl
obviously didn't watch that postseason run

what is a fluke is the 4 post season loses that happened on the last play of the game after Rodgers offense gained the lead or tied
the other 3 postseason losses under him have been when the defense allows 37 or more points
something that the patriots defense only allowed once in Brady's postseason career

http://awfulannouncing.com/cbs/cbs-2017-nfl-broadcast-teams-beth-mowins-addition.html

Now the NFL is stuck with the shitty woman announcer
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

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>>77651562
wheres eli

>>77650191
maybe 6-10

>>77651195
>above average corners
dude landon collins is DPOTY he shouldve been

>>77651614
more like eli on top of the league haha >18-1

>>77651673
this

>>77651736
i certainly remember the year following that. oh wait i didnt because they got hammered by the giants in January despite >15-1

>>77651722
second to eli

>>77651790
Eli manning sucks

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>>77651798
you suck

>>77651790
eli is fucking terrible
it's not 2010, and even if it was, he was never really that good
he's a modern day jeff hostetler or trent dilfer

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>>77651810
>modern day trent dilfer
dude he was a first pick of the draft and won two superbowls. you're obviously still mad over something despite it being almost 10 years

>>77651712
Brees has been elite on a team with a shitty defense for years. The reason why all they do is pass is because the defense gives up 30 points by halftime. He just put up over 5000 yards AGAIN and averaged 30 points a game on a team that went 7-9, cmon guy.

If Dak had some kind of super spectacular rookie season I can see putting him in the top 10, but he didnt. If you actually watch any cowboys game from last year, Dak wasnt doing anything special. He was doing exactly what he needed to do and nothing more, everytime all the pressure was actually on him, he came up short. He was Basically doing what Smith was doing, but better. Which isnt bad by any means, buts its not top 10 worthy at all. As for Mariota, being healthy is a legitimate concern for a QB. It doesnt matter if youre able to win 14 games if you are only going to play 8.

Rivers, Eli, Stafford, Cam and Luck are all better to put in the top 10 then those 2.

>>77651790
>i certainly remember the year following that. oh wait i didnt because they got hammered by the giants in January despite >15-1

as far as the Brady v Rodgers debate is concerned this is a pretty shitty point

>>77651790
>landon collins
you guys going to start him at corner this year?

The Minnesota Vikings

>>77651767
>Phil Simms leaving commentator booth
Sweet

>>77651767
>tfw they put some woman announcer for hockey games here
im sorry but I cant do womens voice in sports
it doesnt mesh in my brain

>>77651790
>h-haha 18-1 r-right guys
>meanwhile tom just won yet another owl
>meanwhile eli can't even win out his own division let alone make the playoffs and is now washed up

Face it, Tom got the last laugh

>>77651843
>Brees has been elite on a team with a shitty defense for years
no correlation
>He just put up over 5000 yards AGAIN and averaged 30 points a game on a team that went 7-9, cmon guy.
Like I said, he does this because of his attempts. He had a 7.7 YPA and despite 673 attempts he only had 37 TDs
You're not doing anything but buttressing my argument


>Rivers
21 INTs
>Eli
Shit numbers, even with great receivers
>Stafford
You can't read
>Cam
52.9 completion percentage lol
>Luck
The only viable one

>As for Mariota, being healthy is a legitimate concern for a QB. It doesnt matter if youre able to win 14 games if you are only going to play 8.
He played in 15 games lol
You people don't know what you're talking about

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Is there a more autistic player (in a good way) in the league?
>has sonic plushies in his home theater
>plays video games and posts about them
>streams on twitch
>has a sock collection with anime socks

>>77651901
Oh, I didnt notice your top 10 list was exclusive to 2016. Sorry man, my mistake.

who is the alt left of the nfl

>>77651991
seahawks

>>77651889
maybe that wouldve been the case if they only beat them once

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbABQsmrUUA

>>77651945
kys yourself my man

>>77651991
giants

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>>77651844
Rodgers chokes harder than my girlfriend on sunday

>>77651901
>>Rivers
>21 INTs

>entire team literally on his back

not every pick was on him and the amount of time he had to force it..
I'd give you the fumbles, though

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you can pick one active player to clown and make up an entire roster, coaching staff and front office

who do you pick?

how competitive do you think they would be?

>>77651991
Any team I dont like

>>77652043
Hey buddy
>>77652057
No matter what, if you turn the ball over that many times, something's wrong with you
>>77652061
Clowney
Pretty good

>>77652075
>something's wrong with you

or you're just surrounded by shit

>>77651914
he's /ourguy/

>>77651852
get out sweden

>>77652100
Even the browns or jets QBs didn't turn it over that much and they had much less than him
Maybe, just maybe, he makes too many bad throws?????

>>77652075
>>77652061
*clone

>>77651843
>If you actually watch any cowboys game from last year, Dak wasnt doing anything special.
Yeah he was. Dak was credited many times by many analysts as playing very well for a rookie. He didn't even look like a rookie or make any rookie type of mistakes or had any visible shortcomings. Dak had a spectacular rookie year it's why he broke a rookie record as well as win RoTY and was an MVP candidate.
>everytime all the pressure was actually on him, he came up short
Except in the playoffs when it was all on his shoulders and he almost won the game.

The only reason people shrug off Daks excellent rookie performance is because he happened to have good pieces around him which is stupid to dismiss him for that. Dak played incredible and looked in no way like a rookie.

>>77652123

how many charger games did you watch last year?
Im not saying he's top 5
but he's definitely in the top 10

>>77652062
this desu

>>77652150
Okay
But he's not tho soooooooooo

>>77652075
He's Right you know, Rivers has been steadily declining

>>77652061
Rob Gronkowski. It's a generic answer sure, but I think it's the right one. He is large enough to have leverage to hold some sort of offensive line, and three or four receiver sets with all of them being Gronk would be plainly unfair. I guess his decisions under pressure as QB could be rough, but he allegedly has a pretty good football IQ.

>>77652061
Cam Newton, better than any of the other clone teams

>>77652178
Hi Krabs

LEAVE RIVERS ALONE

I MEAN IT!!!!!

he's trying his best ok

>>77652200
rivers makes stupider faces than eli

>>77652148
Im not trying to be insulting, Im genuinely curious.

Were you really nervous when Romo went down last year? Did you like the Dak pick when he was first drafted?

>>77652207

up with this I will not put

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>>77650278
>No Kareem Hunt

>>77651991

Michael Bennett

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>>77652040
>mfw Walsh revives his career in Seattle

>>77652056
Sigh, only the Packers...

Dak Prescott was a top 5 QB last year and this hurts people on /nfl/ to the very core but other well adjusted football fans do not feel such a pain from hearing this and generally agree.

>>77652286
Most football fans don't care about Dak. He's that forgettable.

>>77652286
A big part of the reason he was so good last year was the presence of Elliot. This year should be a real test for him to see if he is the real deal.

>>77652325
>hurr you need to play on a bad team to be proven

No, this is the cancerous view point of someone that's been routing for a shitty team and a shitty QB on that shit team for years thinking that's how it's supposed to be. Tom Brady never played on a shit team, so he's not proven?
Cowboys were just 4-12 the year before with pretty much the same team but a different QB and Zeke didn't get good until his 3rd game, Dak was good from the beginning plus pre season and was more consistent, whenever the Cowboys run game go stopped Dak was still good, when their passing game was slowed down, like against the Vikings and Giants second game, he still made big plays regardless of Zeke, who had trouble in all those games. Only game Dak truly struggled the Eagles game, still lead a 4th qt comeback, won in OT. And during the playoffs the Cowboys went full passing offense and Dak was playing absolutely amazing.

>>77652148
>He didn't even look like a rookie or make any rookie type of mistakes or had any visible shortcomings
Youre absolutely right and if it was a list of top 10 rookie seasons of the decade, hed be at the top, but cant say hes better than QBs who have actually proven themselves just yet, give it a few more years. I don't blame him for that loss against the Packers in his first playoff game against a monster like Rodgers (if anything his performance makes doubt what I'm saying) what I did notice was throughout the season there would be plenty of times where it looks like maybe they won't win the game, or wont win as easy as they should, and Dak will be in situations where he could put the game away early or not be down in the first place, and hed come up short. The Cowboys would go on to win those games because the team around Dak was good and Dak wouldnt make any rookie mistakes, but because of that those shortcomings go unnoticed. The reason why he's hyped up by many analysts is because he's playing as if he was in the league for 4 years and has incredible potential to be an Elite QB. The thing is though, a lot of people confuse potential eliteness with actual eliteness and since the wins matched up, the hype train kept going.

It's like, Dak knows how to not lose, but he doesn't know how to win, if that makes any sense.

Also if you notice, I didn't bring up the pieces around him in my original post because any other rookie would still look like a rookie with that setup.

Tom Brady cheated.

>>77652564
high school chemistry says otherwise

/ffg/ when

Broships when

>>77652056
and we thought favre was bad

>>77652564
he other day, I was talking with a friend about Tom Brady. And here’s what he said:
“I think he probably did something, but the whole thing was stupid.”
At the time, I sort of shrugged it off. I mean, for one thing, he’s right: The whole thing was stupid. For another, I’m no Tom Brady fan. What do I care?
But as time has gone on, I realized that I should have said something else:
I think Tom Brady is unequivocally, unambiguously, thoroughly and 100-percent innocent of any and all charges of deflating footballs in a cheating capacity. I don’t think he ever asked anyone to illegally deflate footballs. I don’t think he wanted footballs inflated below NFL standards. I think the whole thing — every last page of the testimony, every last leak to the media, every text made public, every curious statistic like the one showing the Patriots fumbled less than other teams and every blunder Brady made along the way, like his awkward press conference and the destruction of his phone — was a bunch of phony-baloney nonsense that was either directly or indirectly inspired by a made-up NFL witch hunt. I think he’s entirely innocent.
And let me say two more things:
1. As mentioned, I don’t particularly like Tom Brady, and I have no affinity whatsoever for the Patriots.
So why do I believe Tom Brady is unequivocally, unambiguously, thoroughly and 100-percent innocent of any and all charges of deflating footballs?
Because: The NFL spent millions of dollars in a ludicrous star-chamber investigation and, even with that, did not come close to proving it. Not even close. If this was a court of law and the NFL had presented that silly, convoluted, scientifically-challenged case of hearsay and bluster, the jury would have voted “not guilty” before lunch. And the judge would have wondered why everyone’s time needed to be wasted.

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>extending a guy in his mid 30s
CAROLINA WHAT ARE YOU DOING!?

>>77652665
This situation would have been brought to a quick close if the League had even a general awareness of the scientific impact of temperature and weather conditions on the PSI of footballs at the time of the AFC Championship Game. Prompt correction of misinformation leaked by the League would have allowed knowledgeable and objective people to assess the numbers and minimize the media frenzy and public furor. For reasons still unknown, the League and its lawyers refused to release the accurate information for months, doing so only in the context of a report which based its conclusions primarily on dubious interpretations of ambiguous texts. The Wells Report is written more as a piece of advocacy trying to support its predetermined conclusions than as an independent and dispassionate review of all the facts. The League’s lawyers have refused to produce their interview notes, their communications with Exponent, or the extent of the edits by the League’s General Counsel to drafts of the Wells Report. The League has also refused to provide the PSI data it collected during the 2015 “random spot checks.” If properly performed, those checks undoubtedly confirm that numerous games are played with below-regulation footballs due to the impact of weather conditions on footballs. The integrity of the League is of vital importance. One can only wonder if it has been seriously compromised by the League’s lack of transparency and what appears to be an ongoing effort to defend, rather than critically assess, the dubious conclusions and methodology of the Wells and Exponent Reports.

>>77652056
Does your gf spend Sunday with her bull?

>>77652679
In the years where they didn't follow the cap rules, the Broncos' top player, quarterback John Elway, was paid around 5.4% of the legal cap space, which was 1.2% less than the next closest team. Even more telling, Elway’s cap charges in the Broncos' 1997 and 1998 Super Bowl seasons were just $2.1 and $2.6 million respectively. By comparison Miami Dolphins quarterback Dan Marino, who would be the most logical comparison, had cap charges of $4.3 and $7.6 million. The implication is that Elway took a relatively low cap hit, but received outside-the-cap funds to compensate for that.
The Broncos explanation for this infraction goes something like this: owner Pat Bowlen was trying to build a new stadium for the Broncos and was short on cash. So, he asked Elway and running back Terrell Davis to forfeit some of their paycheck now and in return he would pay them back plus interest after the season.
They like to refer to this cheat as their little accounting snafu. Their accounting excuse doesn't matter, however, only the fundamental integrity of the game does. A rule is a rule and you can't chose to break it because something comes up. That is clear-cut cheating which is why they were penalized so heavily by the league for it.
The Broncos were fined on two separate occasions for salary cap shenanigans between 1996 and 1998. The first punishments were announced in 2001 and the second in 2004. Their fines totaled a staggering $1,918,000 and they lost a total of two third-round draft picks.

It is more probable than not that the Broncos got a significant competitive advantage (real or potential) from this rule breaking. The entire league followed the salary cap rules during those years and the Broncos did not. They also happened to win the Super Bowl twice during those compromised years. If a Super Bowl can be tainted by a cheating scandal, then these two are pretty high up the line.

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>25 years old

>NFL to allow personalized cleats

I mean it's great but why all this back track. Did the ratings drop last year affect them that much

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>>77652262
dont use that name you thief!

>>77652752
>testosterone

not even once

>>77652734
It was discovered prior to the 2011 season that the New Orleans Saints were running a bounty program for big hits and injuries to opposing players. The program ran for a three-year period from 2009 to 2011, which included their 2009 Super Bowl championship team. At the center of the scandal were defensive coordinator Gregg Williams, who was accused of running the program with the knowledge of head coach Sean Payton, assistant coach Joe Vitt and general manager Mickey Loomis.
Bounty programs, in which players are offered money to injure players from the opposing team, have been in the league for many years. Recent attention to player safety, however, has led the NFL to discourage teams from employing the practice. It is widely believed that NFL commissioner and former Jets public relations intern Roger Goodell used the harsh and oversized penalties for this typical and common bounty program -- much like he did to the Patriots with their typical and common videotaping practices -- to send a bold message to all 32 NFL teams to stop using similar programs.
Although the Saints' bounty program rewarded players for big hits and injuries, between 2009 and 2011 (the stated period that the program ran) the Saints had far fewer actual fined penalties and suspensions than the average NFL team. The program was wrong and immoral, but luckily NFL officials didn't see it fully play out on the field as well as it played out in the news media or from the commissioners podium.
The initial penalties by the league: Williams, Payton and linebacker Jonathan Vilma were suspended for the entire 2011 season, while Loomis, Vitt and three other players drew multi-game suspensions. The Saints were fined $500,000 and stripped of two draft picks.

>>77652630
>>>/nba/

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>>77652630
There's only one true broship in the NFL

>Ralph Wilson
>partial owner of the Detroit Lions and a Michigan native
>His good friend William Clay Ford buys the full rights to the Lions
>Wilson becomes the owner of the Bills
>didnt have any uniforms/equipment
>Lions spotted them some equipment and practice uniforms(which is where the Bills got their colors)
>ends up becoming neighbors with Ford and best bros
>fast forward
>Ralph Wilson and WCF die within a span of months
>Bills stadium gets snowed in
>Lions spot them their stadium for a win
>Bills buy the Lions wings and pizza as grattitude
>both teams have little to no success
>only two teams in the NFL where their logo is a FULL animal
>games between each other are always fun to watch and the fans are getting along/having friendly banter

Face it. No two teams will ever form a more brolike bond.

>>77652436
God you miserable fucking tard can you please shut the fuck up about shit you clearly don't know shit about? It's common consensus that the cowboys didn't have to lean on Dak Prescott that much his rookie year because he had the perfect situation around him to be successful. All he had to do was not turn the ball over and not personally lose them any games and he did just fine at that. This year is going to be different. The whole team is going to be on his shoulders now with Zeke gone for half the year and the oline and defense a little banged up.

He has a much taller mountain to climb this year to prove himself is all I was saying before you had to flip the fuck out.

And no, you're wrong, he had his fair share of poor games. You clearly don't remember the Giants sweeping the Cowboys and Dak failing to throw a single touchdown in either game. In fact, he rarely eclipsed 300 yards passing last year so would you kindly crawl right out of Jerry Jones asshole

>>77652790
The dolphins and falcons show a full animal.

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>>77652773
In 2011, the Colts were accused of intentionally losing games to earn the first pick in the 2012 NFL draft so they could select star Stanford quarterback Andrew Luck. Fans of the Colts dubbed it the "Suck for Luck" campaign. Fans of competitive integrity called it blatant and ham-handed cheating.
The "No They Didn't" side defends against the charge by noting that the NFL has non-guaranteed contracts and players who lose on purpose risk losing millions of dollars off their current and future contracts. Backing this theory up, the Colts head coach in 2011 -- Jim Caldwell -- was fired after the 2-14 "Suck For Luck" season. As well, the Nopers say, when Manning got hurt all the Colts had was backup quarterback Curtis Painter and because Manning hogged all of the practice snaps, Painter had very little experience. Because of this, they were forced to bring in the retired (and mediocre) Kerry Collins because that's all they could get from the free agent pool.
The "Yes They Did" side counters by saying that Colts players could play to their full potential, but if the coaches were calling bad plays, and management was not making the best trades or free agent moves, then the team could still lose without the knowledge or participation from the individual players. The Yessers give as an example that the Colts knew they were screwed after Manning's injury. They could have picked up a much better veteran free agent quarterback to make them competitive. However, Colts owner Jim Irsay knew that -- although they might become competitive -- they would be longshots to make the playoffs. He definitely knew that acquiring a better quarterback than Collins would blow their chances of drafting Luck, so he bit the bullet for one season and quietly allowed Suck For Luck to play out on the field.

As Colts reporter fan Doyel proclaimed, "perception is reality" and the perception around the league is that "Suck For Luck" was a thing.

>>77652856
Spygate was nothing
Lets get this out of the way first -Bill Belichick and the Patriots broke the rules. There is no disputing that. They were punished for it.
Yes, I’m trying to put this all behind me, but I think it’s important to review just how disgraceful the behaviour of national media was during this whole episode, and attempt to put as much of it on the record as I can here.
Yes, disgraceful.
I suppose it shouldn’t be too much of a surprise given the news/sports climate in which we live, one that is dominated by sensationalism, exaggeration, rush to judgement and opinion. But things really got out of hand with this one. Let’s review a few of the ways:
The myopic media have chosen to focus solely on the sensationalistic aspects of this case, right from the beginning.
Whether or not this was really a major rules violation that garnered a significant advantage is not the point. THE NEW ENGLAND PATRIOTS CHEATED AND ALL THEIR CHAMPIONSHIPS ARE NOW TAINTED. That’s the message that has been sent out, and that which has been pounded repeatedly into the conscious of the American public.
The implication has been that the taping of signals is the golden lamp which when rubbed, automatically ensures victory. They insist that the advantage gained by these tapes is the single most important factor (even if some faint voices say otherwise) in the Patriots success this decade.
Never mind that the stealing of signals has been going on in all sports almost from the beginning. Never mind that other teams have been caught doing the same or worse. Ignore all of that.
Ignore this statement:
Taping from the sidelines during games, although forbidden, is regarded as a minor violation of the rules.
You know who wrote that?
The one and only Gregg Easterbrook. (On February 3, 2008)

>>77652920
Yeah, the same guy now advocating a lifetime ban of Belichick.
For a “minor violation of the rules.”
Nothing has changed since that day, in fact, the Patriots position has improved, as the notion of the walkthrough video has been dismissed. The Boston Heraldand John Tomase have apologized for putting out this false information. Yet now Easterbrook wants the lifetime ban?
They’ve also shown that just because something has already been reported, it doesn’t mean you can’t write it again and shout from the rooftops that there is a new angle.
One of the prominent figures of this whole saga has been ESPN “investigative reporter” Mike Fish. For someone billed as an investigative reporter, I haven’t seen this guy yet bring something of value to the table. You’d think an investigative reporter would…you know…investigate. He would look into all aspects of a story, uncover new facts, perhaps expand the scope of the story to include other teams and their practices, to see if what the Patriots did was really out of line with what other teams were doing to get an edge.
Nope. He’s been solely focused on the Patriots. He hands in pieces like this, which have absolutely no new information whatsoever.
I’m tempted to dub him Mike Fishwrap, but that would be an insult to paper that is actually used to wrap dead fish.

Ready, Fire, Aim.

This will somehow get blamed on the internet, I’m sure, but this whole episode has consisted of events where reporters and media have shot first and asked questions later. The rush to be first get the news out there and garner attention has overidden everything else, including journalistic standards. Tomasegate is the prime example, but there are others.

>>77652964
“I’m not aware of any connection between the SpyGate procedures and the procedures we went through here,” Goodell said on ESPN’s “Mike & Mike” show, shortly after the Outside the Lines report was released. “No connection in my mind.”
In a statement, the Patriots insisted they’ve done nothing wrong:
This type of reporting over the past seven years has led to additional unfounded, unwarranted and, quite frankly, unbelievable allegations by former players, coaches and executives. None of which have ever been substantiated, but many of which continue to be propagated. …
It is disappointing that some choose to believe in myths, conjecture and rumors rather than giving credit for the team’s successes to Coach Belichick, his staff and the players for their hard work, attention to detail, methodical weekly preparation, diligence and overall performance.”

>>77652972
holy copy pasta

>>77652220
I fucking hate the coqboys and after the draft I told everyone I know, "when Romo goes down six games in, Dak's going to wreck people."

[spoiler]I just wish he hadn't bullied the Bucs so hard[/spoiler]

>>77650165
Don't associate the chiefs with anime you fucking faggot weeb

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>>77653062
>he says on a weeaboo board of an anime forum
make me stop, faggot

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was it a fumble?

>>77652325
How many yards did Zeke run on average before being touched by a defender? Was it 2.5? I could've ran for 400 yards for the cowboys last year, and I'm a fatass.

>>77653121
Yes

>>77653121
yes

>>77653121
yes

>>77652225
Hunt had like 1 snap on offense. Hed make special teams though

>>77653121
How was this not ruled a fumble? I know the rule says that it wasn't a fumble do to the forward motion, but, it wasn't like it was at the top of the passing motion, it was at the very end, where absolutely zero throw could be made.

>>77653121
Of course not, he was in the process of tucking the ball back to his body.

>>77653121
Greatest refball occurance of all time. Gave birth to the greatest QB of all time.

>>77653222
*really great QB who is also very lucky

>>77651875
SWEDEN NO

>>77652752
Thats how 25 year olds have looked for all of history up until the 90s, nu male

>>77653255
At first? maybe. But now? hell no.

>>77653121
probably

>>77653121
The tuck rule is gone now, but back in 2001, that wasn't fumble.

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>>77650207
5 spots left, and if anyone is interested in an auction draft league >>77632150

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Based Smoke.

>>77653121
was there a precedent?

>>77653121
theres something special about a game in the snow

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>home game
>brett favre day
>thanksgiving

>lose to jay cutler
how do you accomplish this?

>>77653765
Cutty is elite.

>>77653121
Yes

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>>77653765
This nigga couldn't score a TD from the fucking 8 yard line

>Bucs/Jags on ESPN on Thursday

It's sad that I'm looking forward to watching this.

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>>77653765
Rodgers always chokes when it counts

>>77653871
>Bucs and Jags get to show they don't suck anymore
feels good man

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>TFW no Hard Knocks streams to be found

>>77653814
Just like your mom couldn't completely swallow my 8" cock

>>77653925
Same

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>>77653916
This. Rodgers is basically OBJ with a ring. Flashy hail Mary's and nice throws seemingly in clutch time, but only because he shit the game up to begin with. Plus they're not playing at home because he had his annual 4-6 game slump with his own personal media dick sucking circus following him around.

Why do you allow the mods to push you around and make this board a boring wasteland?

>>77653121
yes

>>77653934
I would say "Hey Aaron", but you said mom instead of dad

>>77653222
he would've still won at 38 and 39
really he wasn't the world beater he would become yet

>>77654037
>>77653925
Don't worry it's just a bunch of montages to shitty rap music

>>77651991
every NFL team

consequently, the alt right is every MLB team

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>Leonard Fournette has no lateral agil-

>>77654223
Fournette will be a bust
GUARANTEED

Hard Knocks fucking sucks now

>>77654223
woop

Adam Schefter pretty much said the NFL just sided with the women by default because they were tired of giving the players the benefit of the doubt just because they continuously got burned every time and ended up getting blasted by the media.

Then Rodger Goodell didn't even attend any hearing, talk to Zeke or the accuser, and still gave the final decision based on other people's opinions.

>>77654223
textbook use of the "B" button

>>77654345
I love how people think the suspensions are based on anything besides what's going to hurt the NFL's bottom line

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>>77654142

>>77653925
>>77654037
>They don't have HBO
LMAO@your lives

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>>77654345
Fun fact

The women accusing Zeke posted pictures of her bruises the day after the incident.

Interesting fact about that, she had bruises on her knuckles. How did she get that if she was the one being beat? Did she retaliate so well she could get multiple good hits to cause this?

Or is it the fact, according to witness testimony, she assaulted another women at the said incident? And there were multiple people there? Not just Zeke and the accuser? And witness testimony that when Zeke pulled up to the canvas apartment building's parking lot, he wasn't driving the car? It was a different woman? And this bitch was tailing them, after she'd called him 50 times in the span of 7 hours? And hacked his emails? And she say this girl and went bat shit insane with rage and jealousy so she attacked her?

>>77654345
HAHAHAHA FUCK DALLAS

Sanchez ate the hot dog

Top kek

Anyone watching hard knocks

>>77654345
Also said they gave Zeke 6 games because they fucked up Josh Brown's case last year and Ray Rice.

It was a direct result of the NFL's past fuck ups with domestic violence and they made the decision to appease SJW's and the media.

They dropped the Zeke investigation a month after it started, but after Brown's journal came out chronicling his abuse and he media went crazy about how he only got 1 game suspension, they reopened the Zeke case to pretty much make him a sacrificial lamb.

>>77654498
For a young QB, Jameis sure feels confident enough to chew out the offensive linemen when he wasn't even playing

>>77654524
Yeah that's what I was thinking also was thinking I was gonna hate Jameis more

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>Jerry Jones: Cowboys LB Jaylon Smith will debut vs. Colts on Saturday

>>77654509
SJWs don't care about football, and nobody cares about SJWs except easily-triggered conservicucks.

the point is, everytime the sadbois get fucked, the NFL is better for it.

>>77654223
lol preseason is primetime for pointless spins

his coaches are gonna pull this up on tape and make him run for it kek

>>77654547
I really hate the ritual of cutting players. Just let me go and don't put me through that fake discussion of how much you like me, then I have to pretend how much I look up to you and how we'll keep in touch
Hard Knocks always makes me root against the team featured for that season

>>77654594
>SJWs don't care about football, and nobody cares about SJWs except easily-triggered conservicucks.
That's blatantly wrong tho.

Everyone is going insane over Kaep and SJWs have been complaining about football for years, CTE, Domestic Violence, etc.

You're mentally retarded.

>>77654547
I gotta admit Jameis is very charismatic. I wanna be his friend

>>77653121
>the raiders are 86-154 (35% wins) since this game

>>77654223
#26 gets fucking owned by Fournette on that play. Good use of ball carrier vision.

No doubt that Fournette will be a 1,500 yard rusher multiple times

>Reports: Ex-Cowboys WR Lucky Whitehead breaks foot in Jets camp

Damn, this guy is literally the most unlucky person I've ever seen.

What defense do the Browns run?

I just got the athlon sports magazine and they were ranking defensive lineman/linebackers in a 4-3 system and a 3-4 system. So I tried to make a list of the schemes each team uses. The browns had a player on 3-4 and on 4-3 though which confused me. Also I couldn't find anything on the Colts because their entire Dline/LB core is so bad that not a single player made the list.

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>>77651673

>"interceptable passes"
>"QBR"
>"Failed Completion Percentage"

MUH SECRETLY CODED PROPRIETARY STATISTICS.

You see this is the Devil's work, don't you son? He creates secret formulae that twist reality and turn you away from Based Carr. And when asked to show his work and show how he created his formulae, he waves and wriggles and weaves to hide his deception. Because without deception, the Devil has nothing to steal the hearts of men, he's just a mean, ole dog on a chain.

But theres good news, son. Based Carr was sent from heaven to guide you out of the darkness. That anger you feel, son? Based Carr can take that away from you. He came to earth and shattered his fibula for all our sins. He healed his shattered fibula to rise once again. And he will take you into his heart, if you will only take him into yours.

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>>77654779
kek
TYBC

>>77653121
According to today's rules: yes
According to the rules in 2001: no

Anyone who claims otherwise is either bootyblasted or stupid. The Tuck Rule may have been a dumb rule, but it was called correctly.

why are there so many jags fans on /sp/ all of a sudden

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Aaron Rodgers's new beard

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mostly Pats-centric prop bets I just thought of for 2017, feel free to comment

>Tom Brady will have over/under 10.5 picks
>Zeke Elliott will play in more/less than 13.5 games
>Jim Irsay will have a drug-related car accident
>This will be Drew Brees' final season
>This will Tom Brady's final season
>The Patriots will go 15-1 and win the Super Bowl
>Jimmy Garoppolo will make more/less than 1.5 starts for another team
>The Jets will have over/under 0.5 division wins
>The regular season MVP's team will/will not win or reach the Super Bowl
>We will see sophomore slumps from BOTH Dak Prescott and Carson Wentz

>>77654853
The Jags just won their superbowl, that's bound to create a wave of bandwagoners

>>77654872
This is the best he can get? She's cute but I've seen cuter girls at the Supermarket. He's a millionaire celebrity QB.

>>77654873
>under
>under
>nah
>No
>kek
>no
>no
>over
>will win
>no

>>77654888
Yes

Normie women in 2017 expext men to all be 10/10 chad global engineers and Rodgers isn't either

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Bengals are da bomb
>tfw nostalgic for 2015

>>77654888
>girls should only be judged by their looks

What if she had a 10/10 personality? Id put up with an average looking girl if she was hip and happening. Rodgers isnt in his 20s anymore. He wants to settle down and find a woman he can truly love.

>>77654907
I assume he doesn't care since he was with Olivia Munn for years.

>>77654907
This chick is a big step down from Olivia Munn.

>>77652061
>Fast enough to play RB and WR
>Big enough to play, well, big player positions
>Smart enough to coach
I would pick the o-line player with the fastest 40 time. Highest iq position, they will be able to learn the other ones

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What fucking corporatist kike had this genius idea?

>hehe hey goy let's get rid of creative and individual logos and replace them with this cookie cutter, uninspired garbage

>>77654953
wow, I forgot that the logo has been the same except the numbering for so long. that is retarded.

>>77654953
The logo they chose was utterly moronic too. It's going to age so horribly.

>>77653121
Yes, it was a fumble. It should always have been a fumble. Nobody ever had heard the "Tuck Rule" till that play. That rule isn't even in the NFL anymore.

It's amazing how that 1 decision and Vinitari's leg birthed a dynasty.

>>77655009
>Nobody ever had heard the "Tuck Rule" till that play.
Do your research, nigger. The Tuck Rule had been invoked once during the regular season that year.

>>77650165
>braindamageandpauseforcommercial despite the fact that it's going to close down by the end of 2029

>>77655020
shhhhhhh. Just let them live out their delusions. Their stupidity isn't hurting anyone

>>77654906
>nostalgic for a year that your team got completely humiliated

>>77655046
Dude that was the year of longest undefeated winning streak in the franchise's history. Up until the playoffs I was jolly as a mf

>>77655046
>>77655082
8-0 precisely

>>77650165
>DAL 'could' use committee with Zeke suspended

That's exactly what they're going to do. With both Morris and McFadden almost 30, there's no way they would make one of them have the majority of the carries.

Is Chad Henne capable of stealing Bortles' job this season?

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lil bit of a shake up in the NFC here

>>77655117
>shake up
the Buccs instead of the Giants isn't much of a shakeup

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>>77655117
I LIKE this picture.

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>>77650524
We've lost him to Hollywood

>>77655105
If it got that bad they would probably give Brandon Allen a chance.

First of all I'm not a Cowcuck fan, but can anyone tell me with a straight face that they actually, unironically trust Goodell and the league office? Everytime any "scandal" like this breaks out they lie and lie and lie, it happened with the Saints, it happened with Tom Brady, etc. Furthermore:
>Joe Mixon punches a girl and IT'S ON TAPE - no suspension
>Elliott gets suspended 6 games based on hearsay even though he wasn't charged with anything and the police didn't prosecute
Also, if the NFL had evidence that he indeed hurt that woman, shouldn't they forward the evidence to the police immidiately? Can someone actually explain what this kangaroo court is about?

>>77655162
Fuck the Cowgirls
I don't care what Goodell does

>>77655162
there is no rhyme or reason to Goodell's clumsily-wielded banhammer

>>77654953
>SB50 had a unique logo
>champs of 50 got the big gold 5 0 in addition to the lombardi trophy
wew lad
Broncos have a trophy that even Tim Bradley will never have

>>77655117
>Cincinatti have the #3 seed
I'm a Bengals fan and even I don't believe that

>>77655167
>I don't care what Goodell does
Wait until he fucks your team too.

>>77655281
whats he gonna do? Suspend Cam Newton for giving away too many balls?

When the confetti comes out at the end of the super bowl, it's usually the colors of the winning team.

Do they just have two giant sets of confetti ready for whoever wins?

>>77655281
or maybe don't beat women? or sexually harass them? or rape them? or similar crimes?
oh wait this is /sp/ where women are all devils and athletes can do no wrong except voice political opinons

>>77655305
false-flagger spotted

>>77655305
>isn't charged by the police
>witnesses submitting notarized statements confirming the girl made it up and even tried to make others lie about it
>several witnesses saying the bruises she got were actually from some bar fight with another woman
I know I'm probably responding to bait but still, there are still people who unironically believe this shit.

>>77655302
yep. same with the merchandise. the losing team's "winning" merch all goes to Africa and Asia.

>>77655305
why are you such a faggot real question?

>>77655350
Africa and Asia mist believe the Bills and Vikes are the best teams ever lol

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>Jalen Ramsey isn't a top 5 man cornerba-

>>77655415
Bills maybe, I doubt much Vikes SB winning merchandise even exists anymore.

>>77655483
-ck

>>77655483
Literally the Calvin Johnson of cornerbacks, will be Hall of Fame level player until he inevitably retires because his team is shit. But make no mistake I thought he should've went #1 in the entire draft that year

>>77655509
>get drafted onto an 0-16 team
>sign a 7 year extension

Calvin has no one to blame but himself.

>>77655517
Yeah but still, you'd think they would've turned it around at some point

>>77652220
I was. Then Dak came in and my worries were gone. I called Dak being the Cowboys QB of the future and steal of the draft after his first start in preseason.

>>77652509
>It's like, Dak knows how to not lose, but he doesn't know how to win, if that makes any sense.
He knows how to win too. There was plenty put on his shoulders in the regular season to pull out wins and he did it. Eagles game comes straight to mind

>>77655546
>He knows how to win too.
Not in the playoffs though

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>>77655483
>Jalen Ramsey haunting DeAndre Hopkins his entire career
lmao

>>77655624
I have like 4 webms of Ramsey making Hopkins look like a baby on my other computer, it's pathetic how much Hopkins has been dominated by Ramsey and it's only year 2

>>77655557
Well he played better than Rodgers. It's too bad he didn't have a secondary. But that's changed now actual playmakers in the secondary.

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You now remember this happened

>>77651562
>Roethlisberger
>Not at least #5
Shit list

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>>77655281
>>77655281
my team's the giants
godell wants to push them to be the world's team

>>77652220
Yes, Romo was the best QB that the Cowboys had in the last 10 years, but who wouldn't be worried if their starting QB went down?

I have so many friends and family that absolutely hate Romo, but most of these people are fairweather fans. They don't even remember the Tony Banks, Drew Bledsoe, Vinny Testaverde, Ryan Leaf, Chad Hutchinson, Anthony Wright, Clint Stoener and stupid ass Quincy "Warm Up Passes" Carter days.

>>77655670

one of my favorite days in /sp/ history

>tfw no gf

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>>77655670
Funny thing is, Te'o's gf had a bigger impact on the NFL than Te'o's entire career has so far.

>>77655664
nigga what the fuck

>>77655697
I want to give that aho my banana

>>77655672
Big Ben has regressed dum Steeler fan

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Sorry anons, I didn't know where else to take him.

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>>77655744
OOOOOHHHHH NOOOOOOO

>>77651562
I'm gonna fix this for you

NFL TOP 10 QBS

1. Tom Brady
2. Aaron Rodgers
POWER GAP
3. Matt Ryan
POWER GAP
4. Drew Brees
5. Ben Roethlisberger
6. Russel Wilson
7. Kirk Cousins
POWER GAP
8. Dak Prescott
POWER GAP
9. Matt Stafford
10. Marcus Mariota

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>>77655744

>>77655759
Not bad I guess
I can agree with it

>>77655759
1. Brady
2. Brees
3. Rodgers
4. Ryan
5.Burger
6. Stafford
7. Carr
8. Cousins
9. Wilson
10. Palmer

SKEEEEEUP


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQEzj8pSArc

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>>77655744
That's a big cell

>>77655846
bugs.. easy on the carrots

>>77655790
>2. Brees
You are retarded

>>77655846
bugs.... we need to talk

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>>77655678
John Mara deserves to be raped to death by a horse.

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>>77655934
>>77655890
eh...leave me alone doc

>>77655951
RABBIT SEASON

>>77655951
put the carrot down, bugs.....

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>>77655961
>>77655956
i dare ya to take it away from me doc...

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>>77655980
I'm sawee, bugs

dis is a footbawl twead

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>>77655980
Think vewy carfuwwy, wabbit, I'm not messin awound

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>Three-time Defensive Player of the Year J.J. Watt found himself in familiar territory yesterday, as he was again firmly held captive by Patriots right tackle Marcus Cannon.

>Watt appeared to try it all against Cannon during the first of two joint practices between the Patriots and Houston Texans at the Greenbrier, but the defensive lineman was neutralized. In back-to-back plays at one point, Cannon withstood Watt’s power rush and next easily stayed in front of Watt amid two consecutive spin moves.

>Two consecutive spin moves? Yeah, it was the work of a shockingly desperate pass rusher who has likely grown tired of getting locked up by Cannon. When the two teams met in Week 3 of last season, Cannon kept Watt in check over the course of 24 blocking assignments, including 16 one-on-one meetings. He has 99’s number.

The city of maymay twat

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>>77652036
With all those trannies, commies, and reddittors as their fanbase. It's a miracle they haven't had their target audience collapse

>>77655790
>palmer
kys rivers shits on him