Chargers are DISASTER in LA

Who didn't see this coming? This is all part of the plan.

>>77635518
Hilarious

>The NFL is said to be very embarrassed that an NFL game drew less than a soccer game.

gonna need a source for that one

What? Are people just expected to follow the teams when they move across the country? What is the point of moving then if you aren't trying to get new fans?

Should've brought home the Raiders

>>77635789
NFL front office, marketing team and market analysts thought there were enough customers in Los Angeles for the Chargers

It's preseason

>>77635518
it is the preseason. with that said, there is no reason for LA to have gotten two teams in two years. they'll start caring when one of the teams starts winning, and they'll stop caring when they lose. such is life for LA

Never should have moved the chargers. Absolute stupidity.

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>two teams in La
>both of them are the clippers

lol

>>77635518
>b-but LA needs a team we're not fairweather fans at all!
Gee what a shock

>>77635845
The Raiders wouldn't have been like that

They had a record sellout streak here.

LAFC shall start with more attendance than Chargers

>LA
>loyal fan bases

Pick uno

>>77635991
Dodgers and Lakers sell out all the time, and LA hates boreball

>preseason

the LAFC soccer team beginning next year will out draw the LA Chargers, LA Rams, and LA Galaxy

>city hasn't had an NFL team in years
>everything is fine no one cares
>suddenly give them two NFL teams
>no one attends games
wow really makes me think

>>77636011

doyers "fans" always leave by the 7th inning

>>77636011
Every time I watch a dodgers game, its like 40% full. Disregarding the recent games since they've been on an incredible run

>>77636049
Boreball is stupid. If we got the Raiders back, it would be 20% full.

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>>77635789
>he thinks the NFL/owners care about the fans

>>77636011
>83-34 team can sellout

They were pretty average in attendance a few years ago

>nfl failed twice in LA already

yeah lets give it another two football teams.

>>77635518
>amerifranchises

well, what the FUCK did you expected?

What is the average preseason attendance around the league?

>let's give 2 teams to LA, but not the team that people actually want
What could possibly go wrong?

>>77635518
>soccer is finally more popular than football in america

never thought I'd see the day

It's almost as if everyone who is interested in the NFL has already been supporting a different team.

>>77635789
it's just a 2hr drive from SD to LA

>27,000 seat stadium

What are they thinking?

>>77636223
>2hrs
>just
2 hours is pretty much my travel time to any away games

>>77636223

I assume that's on a good day, I've been to LA and have seen some atrocious traffic jams there.

>>77636223

2 hours if you go 90 on the freeway, don't stop at all, and dont get caught in traffic.

Realistically it's more of a 3.5 hour trip after dealing with parking and traffic

>>77636188
Seriously. LA is a raiders and lakers city. Always has and always will be.

>>77636216
Isn't this reality in Cascadia already?

>>77635789
San Diego to LA is closer than the NFL team in my market is
Honestly I don't understand what the big deal is

>>77636223
>team moves out of your city because it decides it can do better
>ha ha, g-guess I'll still support them

who the fuck would do this

>>77636230
That's a small drive time in America

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>>77636049
Much as I dislike the Dodgers, their attendance is great. For the last 10 years they've been averaging ~3.5M a year (~45K a game).

Football is a winter sport, and LA doesn't have winter. I always wondered if this was why football was historically the least popular of the major sports there.

>>77636286
There isn't 50 teams in a city like your shitty sport has in your country

>>77636271

What don't you get? The people from san diego only like the chargers because it was "our" team. Not because we actually like the franchise, but because it was "our" franchise. There's some sort of city pride in saying the chargers were our team. Yes they were shit, but they were OUR shit franchise.

Now we have to share them with LA it's less "our" team. We hate LA, we don't like sharing shit. There's no more city pride in going to a chargers game anymore. Now it's like going to any other shitty team's games.

>>77636261
They're still crazy about the seahawks in seattle.

In portland maybe, but not the general state of oregon because >muh ducks

Vancouver yes but it doesn't count because it's not in the states.

>>77636310
>I always wondered if this was why football was historically the least popular of the major sports there.
What is hockey.

>>77636336

You'll always have the dads :^)

>>77636271
>I don't understand what the big deal is
>I don't understand why moving away from your fanbase makes your fans not like you

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>>77636271
San Diego to LA is about the same distance as NY to Philly, Pittsburgh to Cleveland, Chicago to Green Bay. Think if any of those pairs went to the other city the fan base would go too?

>>77635518
>A preseason game
Aren't preseason games always on low attendance? How many were there for the Browns? That'd be a big indicator

>>77636090
The only year the Dodgers were anywhere near "Average" in attendance is the year fans boycotted because of McCourt.

Otherwise they're virtually always number 1 in attendance.

>>77636352

he said major sports

If they're good LA fans will flock, they're fair weather as fuck. Plus watching a NFL game in a small stadium would be awesome. They'll be fine as long as they don't suck.

OYE VEY, THE BROWN MEXICANS ARE RACIST FOR NOT WORSHIPPING NEGROS IN TIGHTS. IDS ANOTA SHOAH!!!!!

>>77636324
Is having more teams a bad thing, then?

>>77636324
one team got franchised here, the fans who were left without a team formed a new one in a dogshit league and rose up and now they're above the franchised team. enjoy being cucked by millionaires who will move your team about like it's a piece of bogroll though.

>>77636400

Mexicans love football. But they like the Raiders or cowboys.

>>77636336
>because it was "our" franchise
Now I have less sympathy than I did before
It was never "your" franchise you fucking idiot

>>77636373
>>77636359
All San Diego has is the Padres
That's real competition right there

>>77636410
Pedro is in for it then. He is letting little Maria grow up wanting the BBC.

First of all, this whole "LA wanted football" charade is bullshit. The media only showed the vocal minority, which included businesses that would get money from an LA football team regardless of if they succeed. The majority of us don't want a team here (unless it was the Raiders, even then).

LA-SD is one of the biggest city rivalries in the country, idiots. It's on par with Boston-NYC.

Why should we support the Chargers?

>>77636404
>>77636405
You Yuros treat sports like it has something other than entertainment value
That's being fucking morons

>>77636324
What? Most cities have only one team, sometimes two or a third but they'll be in a much lower division.

The only exception being London which has what, like ten teams over the four professional divisions. Greater London has a population close to 15 million mate.

>>77636445
The grapes are very sour, you are right, friend.

>>77636445
Probably because we created sports to be played, not to be watched

>To live and die in LA

Translation; To leave, then die in LA

>>77636461
Pretty sure cricket was created so aristocrats could have an extra tea break.

>>77636379
Nevermind. I just checked, and the Rams broke preseason attendance records at 90000+. Lowest attendance and highest attendance in the same city. RIP.

>>77636441
this tbqh famalam. The Spanos' weren't exactly well liked prior to the move either.

>>77636461

then why aren't you out playing sports right now instead of talking about other people playing them?

Good. Fuck the Chargers and fuck NFL team owners.

>>77636461
Your top division was formed to funnel more tv money towards the members of the top division than the lower ones
Don't act like your sports aren't now as much about money as ours are

Also both the Rams and Chargers were in LA before St. Louis and San Diego respectively

>>77636503
Didn't know we were inventing the sport in 1992 and decided to make as many breaks in it for adverts to be fitted in

>>77636514
The EPL was formed because of tv money and tv money only
It's also relying more on foreign tv money than the NFL does

>>77636529
>EPL
What league? No league called that over here m8

>>77636216
>soccer is more popular in a state that is 90% hispanic

Aren't the Raiders moving to Greater LA?

>>77636171
shhh you'll ruin the narrative

>>77636567
No, they are moving to Las Vegas. This alone just proves that jews are not as smart as they want you to think they are.

>>77636874
Vegas is Greater LA

>>77636099
LA Browns when? We all know LA is full of shit anyways

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>>77635518

>>77636171
dunno what the average is, but just last year in LA:
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000685041/article/rams-set-us-preseason-attendance-record-in-la

>>77636885
motherfucker vegas is a solid 6 hour drive from LA if there is absolutely no traffic, what are you talking about

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>it's a "guy tries to convince everyone that Vegas is part of LA" thread again

>>77637921
6 hours? How slow do you drive? At 2 AM, I can get to Vegas in 2 hours tops.

>>77637940
Clark County touches San Bernardino county, idiot.

Could Petco Park fit a Chargers game?

>>77638019
my man, I was raised in vegas, I have done that drive many times. you can't do it in two hours

>>77638019

>135mph average, assuming no traffic

No you haven't silly cunt

>>77638055
Where in LA are you going? From DTLA to the Strip, it can be done in 2-2.5 hours tops.

Unless you drive like a grandma, which I presume you do.

I'm so salty about this move. If they aren't in SD I hope the team folds.

>>77638133
Can you put in a good word for San Diego with the CFL?

>>77638138
I'd love to have american teams in the cfl again, actually.

>>77638147
I think it would only work if it was some place where it was the only show in town or was up near the border anyway. The only team in the 90s Expansion that worked was Baltimore.

>>77636230
Your entire Kingdom is smaller than some US counties.

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>he doesn't 2 hour commute from LA to Vegas every day

>>77638226
Maybe some Alaskan boroughs, but the average US county is smaller than the UK

>>77638237
San Bernardino County (which defintitely IS Greater LA) literally touches Clark County (where Vegas is)

>>77635518
Why would anyone go to a pre season game? Only reason I would go to one is if the tickets and or food was free and I live like 20 minutes from Giant's Stadium

What team leaves first: Chargers or Rams?

>>77638226

>American education

>>77638342
Technically he's not wrong, but he definitely overstated how commonplace it is.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yukon–Koyukuk_Census_Area,_Alaska

>>77636230
Unless your team is literally a very regional league this can't be true. London to Manchester is a 3-4 hour drive.

>>77638373
San Bernardino County is also like 95% empty desert that they just tossed in its jurisdiction.

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DUCKS BTFO

>>77638404
Despite that, it's less than 1/4 the size of the UK and smaller thsm four of Alaska's boroughs.

>>77638467
>thsm
than*

>>77635518
What was the attendance in SD preseason last year? Maybe it was the same

>>77638299
>France touches Spain
>therefore they are the same country
you're an idiot

>>77635518
The funniest part about this is even with only 21,000 people there at least half were Seahawks fans, you could hear them out chanting the Chargers fans during the game kek

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>>77638342
>Living in the UK

>>77638674
Well, people commute from Vegas to Greater LA and vice versa, unlike your example of France to Spain.

Idiot.

West coast fans have always been fairweather, everybody knows that

Keep more teams in the north east and youll will have better fanbases, its really simple.

>>77638913
People do commute from France to Spain. And from Poland to Germany. And from Belgium to Luxembourg. And from Italy to Switzerland etc. pp.

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>>77638913

>people commute 12 hours to and from vegas

>>77639357
Only a 1 hour flight, dingus.

>>77639266
Yeah, how's that language difference working out? And even so, the numbers of people commuting between countries is negligible.

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>>77639446

oh sorry, I forgot

People spend almost 80 bucks daily to commute

>>77638103
Unless you're driving at midnight, there's too much traffic to go 100+. Even when I average out 85 mph, it takes 4 hours, just because of the traffic.

I commute by airplane from Boston to NYC every day. Therefore NYC is a part of Greater Boston.

>>77639467
80? Southwest flights are at minimum, $60 one way

>>77639513

cant post the link, but I got $76 roudtrip from expedia

still an absolutely retarded post

>>77639446
>language difference
Poles don't need to speak Getman to steal cars.
There are basques in France and Spain.
Switzerland speaks three languages of its neighbours. Luxembourgians are all multilingual. I know Dutch people who moved here because the land is cheaper and they still work their jobs across the border. It's not uncommon at all.

>>77639467
Obvious only rich business people do, but given how many flights go between LA and Vegas, a lot of those are daily commuters.

>>77635518
>LA Galaxy tickets cost $4 each

wow

>Two LA soccer teams will outsell the chargers
Can't say I feel bad but Spanos deserves this.

>>77636441
What the fuck are you talking about man.

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>>77636441
>LA-SD is one of the biggest city rivalries in the country, idiots. It's on par with Boston-NYC.

Reminder to use filter
>/greater LA/i;boards:sp

>>77635518
laughing_raiders.jpg

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>>77640999
A

>>77635888
THIS and checked

>>77635991
>implying angelenos wanted the chargers or rams to move to l.a.

we want the raiders. the chargers are our rivals, of course were not going to pay to see them

>>77636310
>I always wondered if this was why football was historically the least popular of the major sports there.
the raiders in l.a. played in south central (exposition park)

south central in the 80s and 90s was a no go zone for non-black people

>>77641114
Fuck san diego

>>77635880
>>77635991
>>77636398
>>77636398
Nobody in LA asked for this. Nobody has any interest at all, even if the teams prove to be good (not likely).

>>77636044
>muh fairweather fan meme
Fuck off uninformed okie

>>77636447
Liverpool Everton
ManU Mancity
AstonVilla Birmingham
ShefWed ShefU
Uh
>most cities have one team

>>77642180

but he's right

there were even empty seats in the NLCS last year

Didn't help that the Seahawks made them look like a bunch of clowns in pads.
Only preseason, but still.

everyone saw it coming

>>77642906

>cities with 1/20th the population of LA that still have enough die hard supporters for multiple teams
>18 million people and can't draw 25k fans to a stadium to watch a local team in the countries biggest sport

not helping us

LA is fairweahter, they'l care if the Chargers win

oh right

>Chargers
>win

nm lol

can't wait for the Toronto Chargers

>>77636441
>LA-SD is one of the biggest city rivalries in the country
It's a rivalry, but of fairweather fans - and since in SoCal it's always fair weather (great thing about SoCal) not many for either side.

>>77642926
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_National_League_Championship_Series#Summary

check doyers attendance vs cubes attendance

Premier fans should push Boston, LA and NYC as hard as possible. Those are the top 3 Sports Markets.

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>>77643034

check these photos from the stadium

>>77643048
Boston is too preoccupied by baseball and american football.

>>77643057
That could literally be any night. I think I'll trust the MLB-provided box score attendance figures, but thanks sweetie :)

What part of greater LA are you lads from?
Fairbanks here

>>77637940

always makes me laugh

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>>77635518
>70% of 1000 people

>whoa

>>77643088

it could be any night

like the night it was taken during the NLCS on october 20th

>>77643101
>Here is the official MLB attendance
>ability to look up pictures from that night showing a packed stadium
>stops his ears and shouts NYUHHHHHHHHHH FAIR WEATHER
What are you, a G*ants fan? What's with your autistic quest?

>move to a city that used to be home to your rivals.
>said city already has a team and is getting good attendance
>said city doesn't want you
>getting btfo by mlels

So how long before the chargers turn to Mexico City Chargers/London Chargers or they outright fold the team

>>77643133

https://archive.4plebs.org/sp/thread/71994720/#72012076

>>77643138
Oh shit, it's a 4chan archive link
guess I'm BTFO now

Also, in that pic the sun is still out, but that game started at 8:08 and the sun set at 6:12 (https://www.timeanddate.com/sun/usa/los-angeles?month=10&year=2016)
So maybe it was taken that night, but two whole hours before the game began, and you can't really blame fans for not showing up while the grounds crew mows the lawn

>>77636958
I actually like LA as a city. never had a bad time visiting.

>>77643034
Gee anon it says that Wrigley seats 42,000 but got over 42,000 and that dodger stadium seats 56,000 but couldn't even fill it up. What point were you trying to make again?

i thought it was the rams.

don't be too mean i'm /mlb/

>>77643026

Canadians have said that the government is very serious in keeping the nfl out to keep the cfl viable. so that won't be happening for a while

>>77643194
I think having the exact same capacity two nights in a row means they maxed out. I think being above capacity means the figure cited as capacity is wrong

>>77643194
41,000 dammit

>>77643133
>greater LA nigger
>daring to trash talk anyone else
Kiss my rings loser, your daily reminder that unless Kershaw can win 3 rings in 5 years or less he will always be less significant than Bumgarner

>>77643216
Enjoy seeing the Raiders rape the Whiners

How does it feel to lose an NFL team, faggot?

>>77643216
Well, starting this year, Kershaw will win multiple WS.

Enjoying 5th place, faggot? At least our postseason attendance will be better than yours, guaranteed

>>77636230
I drive double that 4 times a week

>>77642994
I'm not trying to help anyone. I just saw something false on the internet and had to correct it.

>>77643215
>I think being above capacity means
Capacity is the number of permanent seats. For high-demand events the stadiums will add temporary seating and sell standing-room tickets.

>>77643216
The shithole known as San Francisco deserves every terrible thing that happens to it

Hahahahaha bums

Wow, that's awful. The Bears and Packers get more than twice that many people at their fucking practices.

>>77635783
first *preseason game

>>77644330
It's because there's nothing to do in the Midwest other than be disappointed by the mall of America.

>>77635518
move them to austin

would sell out every game

>>77635518
I'm sorry, but did the Chargers already lose money? Oh, that's right. The season isn't even over yet. In fact, it's only preseason. Does not having profit at preseason count as a loss? Is that what you're saying? Because if you're saying that I can assure you that you're wrong. Why would you make this topic when the season isn't on? The Chargers are still playing this season and they have been the best team in the AFC West for how many years now? They played one of the worst teams in the NFL who just happened to get a fanbase because they're feeding off the energy of rooting for an oreo qb. But you know what? They still fucking suck. The Chargers are one of the best fucking teams in the NFL, just because they went 5-11 last year they'll still win the Super Bowl if the kicker doesn't choke. Maybe you should shut the fuck up before you make retarded topics like this. You know why? Because you're going to be embarrassed when the Chargers profit and someone brings up this topic. Oh look at that, the Galaxy just got called for a flop in front of the goal when they needed to get one, just like FC did. Are you a fucking drunk? Are you retarded? Are you autistic? You are a fucking idiot and you should never make a topic on this board again and I'm fucking serious. I almost have a feeling you're the only guy making all these anti-Chargers topics because you're a faggot hater who doesn't like the team because they're good. Fuck you, be good at something in YOUR life and then maybe try to troll these fucking teams on the board, like I give a fuck. It's so easy to spot out your threads now, you're a retard. Always doing stupid shit like this. Why don't you try to be a good poster? Just for once? For once in your fucking life try not to make a topic like this. That's just you, you're always right at getting it wrong. Fuck you. You are nothing.

>>77635880
Last time LA had a serious pro football fanbase was when the raiders were here not even Mexican or memeing but fact

LA got a franchise that openly snaked them for STL and another that thought you can plug them in for free money

Fuck both of them

>>77635518
What were the ticket prices?

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>>77638055
Blue diamond here

If I met you I would literally have you hold my beer and take you down the i-15 to San Bernardino in 2 hours barring major traffic

That or fly

>>77636336
This is the truth and fuck the NFL

>>77638395
maybe he lives in the midlands fucko

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>>77635518
>decide to move team
>EVERYONE including the the other nfl owners tell you its not a good idea
>do it anyway
>turns out it was a horrible idea

Bravo dean spanos bravo

>>77636336
>>77644694
I don't know shit about american sports but this makes sense to me. If my team moved to the next city I'd be insulted more than anything.

And why would people from LA jump on a team that just moved there for marketing reasons?

>>77636441
I just heard about this recently. Which .makes it even funnier that the chargers owner thought this would work.

>>77635830
Rams first preseason game had an attendance of seventy thousands.

>>77644719
Because people from LA have no soul, and their two biggest teams already moved from somewhere else for marketing reasons.

>The "Los Angeles" Dodgers (founded in Brooklyn in 1883, moved to Los Angeles in the 1960s)
>The "Los Angeles" Lakers (founded in Minnesota in 1947)

If you're not familiar with the US, this is roughly the equivalent of Bayern Munich moving to Spain and Liverpool FC moving to Portugal. When your two teams are already soulless cash grabs from somewhere else, you don't really care about another one.

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How can MLS clubs even compete?

>>77644976
Wow a lot of those stadiums are tiny compared to NFL stadiums, what gives?

>>77644976
Not really a fair comparison, since soccer is England's undisputed #1 sport and the Premier League is its most popular league. Soccer is barely America's 5th-most popular sport, and MLS is only the 4th-most popular soccer league partially because it didn't even exist until the 90s. MLS's attendance is still pretty good (think they average like 23,000 per game league wide, with some teams all the way up in the 40s), but of course they're not on the PL's level.

>>77645046
I think it has something to do with the lack of a salary cap and possibility of relegation. If you're forced to spend all your money on salaries just to stay competitive and you risk getting sent down (where you earn half the money), there's no incentive to invest in NFL-sized stadiums unless you're a team with tons of cash and no fear of every getting relegated. The only teams in that 60,000+ range that every NFL team is in are Arsenal and Man United, and they definitely fit that mega-rich no-fear description.

>>77645046
>Yank doesn't understand populations are different in other countries

Typical doofus yankee doodle/

>>77645074
I don't think its a population issue desu, I was just expecting the average size to be bigger than 30k+ lol

I thought most were gonna be in the 50s with a few big fish in the 70s or even 80s, guessing a lot of these venues are old?

>>77645074
I don't think it's really a population thing. Spurs' stadium is only 30,000 seats but they've shown that they can easily fill 80,000. Chelsea and Liverpool could do the same.

>>77645086
Its a combo of population sizes (Remember, Britain has roughly 20% of the population of US), smaller towns/cities represented (eg. 250k live in Stoke, 210k in Norwich, 136k in West Bromwich) as well as the fact that public funding is non-existant for stadiums (unlike your blithering retard politicians who gladly spunk away millions of local residence taxes on billionaires) and thus teams have a choice of upgrading/building a new stadium and potentially put their clubs status at risk (eg. Darlington folded after they built their new stadium, Southampton fell two divisions and were on the brink before they got bought out and revived).

>>77645145
>as well as the fact that public funding is non-existant for stadiums

This right here just solved the puzzle desu, these mega stadiums in the US are always floated with public bonds and taxes

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>>77636391
<--- this is for you, dumbass

>>77645213
That NFL blob isn't even accurate, I guarantee most teams in the NFL would sell for a billion + in 2017, with some like the Patriots, Seahawks, and Cowboys being worth multiple billions of dollars each if they were ever to go to market

>>77645235
>american reading comprehension

>>77645266
You got me, I assumed that was just league valuations

>>77644571
Kek

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>>77635804
>>77635888
>>77641070
>>77636252
>>77636439
>>77644627

FUCK THE RAIDERS

The Rams are LA's team and all you faggots know that secretly in your hearts thats why your so fucking boisterous because you faggots ARE the fairweather fans you dipshit. The fucking Rams have been here since the fucking 40's but all of a sudden thanks to niggers and spics all it took was "muh black and silver" to erase any semblance of loyalty to your TRUE home team. FFS you faggots claim to hate norcal so much when you took a norcal team and even when it moved BACK to norcal you STILL slobbered on the tit of the remains of the slaughtered cow that was the shortest tenure of any team in the NFL all while living in the city your supposedly so loyal to. Disgusting. Raiders would have won those Bowls in Oakland had Davis not been a dipshit and FORCED his way into LA for MONEY.

I FUCKING HATE EVERY. SINGLE . ONE. Of you fuckbois who still say this bullshit. 2020 can not come SOON ENOUGH. Then I will never have to see this bullshit phrase ever again. Trump is deporting all your fake asses and the Raiders will no longer even be IN CALIFORNIA FOREVER. I will celebrate the day this happens by going out and buying a Raider jersey only to burn it and parade it around the streets like a flag. I hope you ALL die horrible deaths for being such traitorous cunts you made our ACTUAL TEAM move just YEARS before they were able to put a Hall Of Fame caliber team and won a Super Bowl.


Fuck the Raiders and fuck off

>>77642906
Yes, most cities have just one team. You do realise there are dozens and dozens of cities in the UK, right? You named 4 with more than one team. Your ignorant and your geography is shite.

>>77643332
And nope you saw something correct on the internet, had to incorrectly try and correct it and proved yourself a dumbass, well played m8.

>>77645269
it's also a bit old the NBA makes a lot more money now after fleecing ESPN/Disney into bankruptcy during the last TV deal.

>>77645046
Asking tax payers to pay for stadiums (which can give you an insane budget) was relatively unheard of in the UK until recently, and even then it's mostly village clubs asking a local council for a few thousand dollars to upgrade a parking lot. English football teams had to pay for new stadiums out of their own pocket, and since upgrading a stadium is cheaper than building from the ground up, most just added seats to grounds that were tucked into the middle of neighborhoods with little room to grow. Now with all the Arab Sheek and TV money, clubs are exploring other options with fewer financial obstacles. God Bless the American Taxpayer.

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>>77645059
You're forgetting Celtic.

>>77645673
semi-pro leagues don't count

>>77645713
While the rest of the league may be semi-pro Celtic have one of the best attendances in Europe, the club makes a hefty profit year after year and they're almost guaranteed Champions League or Europa League football each year, providing them with not just a lot of money but a world stage and the opportunity to claim a few scalps. Outside the top 6 or so in England we are bigger than any other club in the UK.

>>77635518
I've lived in 7 different major US cities throughout my life and have visited 48 states at one point or another on business. I meet thousands of different people a year and usually break the ice with small talk about sports. Out of all the people I've met in this country over the years, literally one individual gave two shits about soccer in any capacity. He claimed to be an Arsenal fan. I don't know who these American proxies are that are trying to shill the sport on this board, but it's egregiously disingenuous. If these posters are for real, at the very least, they are non-existent in the business sector (i.e. people who actually have and spend money).

The fact is, soccer has and will always remain an activity for children in this country, a reason for mothers to get out of the house and gossip with each other while the kids play a non-contact game chasing a ball around. Youth soccer season runs almost year round, so it has that advantage over other youth sports. Once kids are old enough, though, they almost without exception drop it to focus more intently on our adult sports. This post isn't meant to trigger soccer fans into replying to it, whether you're really from America, or some international fan reading this. It's just the way it is here. The more you know.

>>77647708
>a lot of money

Celtic are kind of insignificant in terms of finances though. Not even top 30 in Europe for revenue. Obviously that has nothing to do with a club being "big" (Milan is still bigger than Arsenal despite having half the money), but they don't have that much money.

>>77647867
The TV money just isn't there, for better or worse.

>>77647793
>France has posted this more times than the US

>>77645420
Does LA have a single team that's originally from the city? Even the Rams were originally in Cleveland.

>>77635518
Honestly, I predicted that this would happen. I still believe that the Chargers should have stayed in San Diego, where they belong and where they had been based for the previous 56 years. The Chargers had no business moving to Los Angeles.

>>77635518
Yeah, if I was an executive at the NFL league office, I would be embarrassed too. An NFL team fails to draw 30,000 or more fans for a preseason game? That's embarrassing.

>>77636310
The Dodgers report falsified attendence numbers. Actually most of the teams do this, but Dodgers and Angels are especially bold about it

>>77636336
Baseball is better anyway

they're paying for tats for fans who want to get the LA Chargers logo done

>>77654981
You can't falsify revenue in the millions you idiot ala the Marlins failing to post green despite puffing the numbers up

>>77636230
wtf
2 hours drive wouldn't even get me to the stat's capital

>>77652748

The fucking point is Rams have been imbedded into California history for decades and then Niggers and Spics come and ruin everything.

>>77635518
There's no status to be gained by attending preseason games. There will be plenty of vapid whores and robots when the actual season starts.

>>77635518

But it's not an NFL game it's a preseason game

NFL is the League, American football is the sport

>>77644932
>tfw I'm an Angels fan

>>77652748
Angels and Kings

>>77635518
I can say no one in L.A wanted or needed the Chargers. While the Rams can become competitive in L.A, the fact is that this city is a Cowboys and Raiders city first and foremost. And yes it's because of spics, but the NFL really fucked up when it didn't let the ONE team this city really gives a shit about not move back here. In terms of popularity of sports teams in L.A, any real not retarded Angelino will tell you it's:

1. Lakers
2. Dodgers
3. USC FB
4. Raiders
>Power Gap
5. UCLA FB
6.UCLA BB
7. Kings
8. Galaxy
>Power Gap
9. Angels
>Power Gap
98. Rams
99.Clippers

>$45 for the cheapest preseason ticket

Yeah no thanks

>>77655837
but they're playing in the nfl still

>>77635518
Why does the NFL want 2 teams in LA? Didn't losing the Rams and Raiders already prove that there could only be 1 team in LA. Who the hell thought moving the Rams and Chargers to LA was a good idea?

>>77650825
This pasta deserves to be more known

>>77636230
Europeans think a 100 miles are a long distance
Americans think a 100 years are a long time

>>77655883
The Angel Angels, who named that franchise?

hmmm drive to pasadena...or drive to carson for a preseason game...you guys are idiots and none of you live in LA kek

>>77656160
One of my favorite sayings. So brilliantly and perfectly describes the difference.

>>77655952
Pretty accurate list.

>>77652748
The LA Bulldogs were a minor independent team in the 1930's into WW2 before folding, having been preceded by a traveling "road only" teams called the LA Buccs and the LA Wildcats.

>>77655876
Anaheim bro

>>77655837
Every game played by a NFL team is an NFL game. They're tied to the league, it's not like Europe where they can yo-yo up and down or go play in the CL/domestic cups.

>>77645420
I love this post. Raiders fans are the scum of the earth.

>>77655952

Even still the fact remains every single LA Raiderfag is a fucking casual that could give a damn about LA. Raiders never moved because LA wanted it to, Davis was just like Spanos and FORCED his way there. I still cant comprehend other than "muh colors" why every one of you colossal faggots snaked over to Oaklands team.

Fuck you spics

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>>77656625
Bruh the rams moved to Los Angeles from Cleveland.

>>77636286
Raider fans

It was a pre-season game you dumb asses.

>>77656625
Legit can't tell if bait or not but look at it this way

Rams had 30 years in LA before moving to Anaheim to capture the city

In their only bowl year in LA they were barely popular looked at as a third rate team behind the Lakers and dodgers who both were consistently good

They moves to Anaheim because they failed in LA and failed harder in Anaheim in a faster time

Raiders come in with such a small socal fanbase popular only to some folks as a second team to the niners.

13 years they played in LA maybe more don't remember

It only took them 2 years to capture the city

Why is that
For one they won a chip on LA and everyone here knows you need rings to be de facto kings of LA
They actually interacted with the fanbase rather than show up to work and leave , ursay was a dog shit owner for the rams and the next owners were even terrible now they have kroenke who made it public that he doesn't care about winning championships which was a absolute complete opposite to the Davis family that were always in the headlines like lasorda and magic were back then

Long story short they fit the LA image while the rams tried to make a image and pass it off as a LA thing
They failed and will continue to fail so long as the raiders are close by now they'll never be successful

Diamond Dallas Page

>>77656851
So what? NFL teams routinely hit 40,000 or more for preseason games. Some teams can get 25,000+ for a practice. I'm pretty sure Green Bay once sold out Lambeau for a scrimmage. And the Chargers can't even get 25,000 for their first home game, in a city of 3,000,000 and a metro area of like 10,000,000+? Pathetic.

>>77656893
The reason the Rams aren't as loved as they should be is because of Georgia Frontiere.

>>77643320

That's nothing to be proud of

>>77635876
>I now remember the Rams
>I now remember more than 1 NFL-team got relocated to LA in recent years

And they're both doing shit?

LA couldnt even support one team, now they move another there? Fucking why? Not a football city

>>77658833

muh hollywood

>>77636441
>LA-SD is one of the biggest city rivalries in the country, idiots.
Then it would make sense to have divisional rivals located in those cities.

Raiders should have moved to LA, Chargers should have stayed in SD, Rams should have moved to Vegas.