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/nba/ general
>Off-season sucks edition

>News:
CHA:Kemba (knee) says he's medically cleared
BKN:Hollis-Jefferson to open camp as starting PF
NY:Porzingis says he hopes to remain a Knick
PHI:Gerald Henderson to have hip surgery
PHI:Joel Embiid expects to be ready for camp
Ian Clark agrees to 1-year deal w/ Pelicans
NY:Report: Melo unwilling to accept trade to CLE
ATL:Atlanta Hawks waive Diamond Stone
MIA:Winslow expects to be 100 percent for camp
PHI:Timothe Luwawu (knee) out for Eurobasket
LAC:Danilo Gallinari (thumb) likely out 3-4 weeks
PHI:Markelle Fultz (ankle) feeling 'a lot better'

>Videos:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x0_Xd51aus8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0_eLRP_GtIw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQiOVWVWbMg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oqA6V4QAqJU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxuo8D2r13E
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wiGIl_w3ypM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CClYdvHwVp4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0cD-aPAs5FM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R3V4ywg7Yz0

>Player movement / ESPN projections: 2017-18 season:
http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/19751106/player-movement-2017-18-season
http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/20225286/projected-records-win-totals-standings-every-nba-team-2017-18-season
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reminder lebron has a 60 per cent win ratio
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Daily reminder that 3-5 is a respectable 60% win rate.
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winning 3 out of 5 is very impressive in a highly talented league
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Do you ever think about Sacramento drafting Jimmer Fredette and Nik Stauskas 3 years apart
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BASED
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D
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>>77457616
no because all i think about is how amaizng lebron is and how much of a SNEK the rest of the league is
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>>77457616
Sauce Castillo is the GOAT don't @ me
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>>77457623
his skit was pretty funny but i still cant forgive him for bashing on brodie all season long when hes literaly the son of legod
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why do you faggots literally post about the same shit every thread? The Bucksfags talking about Tony Snell's scrub - average ass last thread was better than the last 5 threads combined
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>>77457652
the nba doesnt exist outside of lebron and the memeirz
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>this thread
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hey guys... guess what...

kd and kyrie are SNAKES!
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>>77457676
COMEDY GOLD
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>>77457676
HOLY SHIT LMAO
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>>77457676
HAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHA LEHATERS BTFO
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>>77457676
>kd and kyrie are SNAKES!
holy fuck how will they ever recover
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>>77457676
Every time
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>>77457676
kek good one
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>>77457676
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>>77457676
>7676
sup hinkie
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>>77457676
NOOOOOOOOOOOOO WAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
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>>77457676
dont call them that, that's an insult to the black mamba
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What do you say we just close down the general until pre-season? This is pathetic.
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>>77457970
sounds like you're a snake sympathizer
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>>77457970
These are pretty much containment threads and most non-/nba/ general threads related to the drama are pretty much just as bad. Just ride the wave.
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BASED COWHERD DOES IT AGAIN

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wErsNL3tjEw

How do we stop him lads?
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Mood

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=04Kx4TigRyQ
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stop spamming dumbass Colin Cowherd videos

the guy is an idiot
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>hey guys... guess what...
>kd and kyrie are SNAKES!
>reminder lebron has a 60 per cent win ratio
>winning 3 out of 5 is very impressive in a highly talented league
>Daily reminder that 3-5 is a respectable 60% win rate.
>BASED
>A
>S
>E
>D
>no because all i think about is how amaizng lebron is and how much of a SNEK the rest of the league is
>his skit was pretty funny but i still cant forgive him for bashing on brodie all season long when hes literaly the son of legod
>HAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHA LEHATERS BTFO
>sounds like you're a snake sympathizer
>BASED COWHERD DOES IT AGAIN
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wErsNL3tjEw
>How do we stop him lads?

>The state of this thread
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>>77458026
KYRIE BTFO
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>you will never be fresh out of highscool in 2014 shitposting with all the original bros on the golden age of /nba/

brehs...
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WHO /RBL/ HERE?
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ay manu ginobili is one sneeky fuck m8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l6GBN6KlcY8
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It's kind of crazy to think that the Pelicans screwed themselves over so hard in the Jrue Holliday trade that it's still affecting them to this day. Basically that one single trade has single-handedly ruined Anthony Davis' entire career there.
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>>77458037
Hes right and it quite hilarious that some idiot like Cowherd can see behind Curry's fake nice guy persona
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>>77458441
>fake nice guys persona

as a guy who studies body language curry is actually a very smug dude. one of those yeah i was born into money and now im even richer
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>not trading Lebron for Wiggins
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why didn't Shaq have a no trade clause?
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he's gonna lead the nuggs to a title
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>>77458900
Shaq is a snake
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I literally just remembered that the Heat signed Olynyk to 4 years 50 million lol

super hyped for the Olynyk-Whiteside pairing
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>>77458026
Kyrie wants to stay in cleveland low key
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>>77458516
>as a guy who studies body language
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Ok I hate KD as much as the next guy, but everybody is not a snake y'all have to chill
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>>77460030
imagine what other boards think of /nba/.
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>>77458915
>he's right, you know
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>>77460224
>>77458915
In like 5 years, maybe.
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>>77458225
>fresh out of highschool in 2014
take it easy, young blood
this general has always been a giant pile of shit
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this jokic meme needs to die before anons begin to believe it.
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http://www.nba.com/article/2017/08/03/player-development-can-africa-can-improve-if-supply-good-coaches-increase

wouldnt food/water improve that shit hole even more?
>muh just got done chuckin a spear in the african jungle
>come home to my kevin durant jersey, hung on the wall of my hut
>get a telegram from muh nba
>congrats, you made it
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>>77460502
my counterargument here is just Dikembe and Hakeem
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threadly reminders

>kyrie irving is now literally retarded
>kevin durant is a cuck
>lebron james is 2nd greatest of all time, never goat
>mj > lebron > kobe
>rings dont mean shit, especially when 200m contract players are taking 25-30% paycuts to save billionaire jews money
>celshits wont beat lelbron
>lakers wont make the playoffs
>sixers are shit, out first round
>jokic is overrated
>clippers arent making the playoffs
>craptors are rebuilding, fuck you canacucks and your poo in the loo hibab piece of shit in the front row of your games
>knicks are forever cursed
>brooklyn is a shit hole, should have stayed in new jersey
>cavs have no fans
>warriors have no fans

worst fan base rankings(cavs and warriors exempt because theyre either lebron fans/ex laker fans/bandwagons)

1. lakers
2. celtics
3. sixers
4. knicks
5. raptors

another reminder jokic is overrated
tripfags, kill yourselves
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>>77460563
i disagree with 2 of these thing listed, everything else seems in order. overall 8/10 post.
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>>77460563
lol faggot
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whos Americas team?
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>>77461134
kings
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>>77460389
>this meme that jokic is a meme needs to die before anons begin to believe it.
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James Harden is TWENTY SEVEN YEARS OLD and just carried an ENTIRE TEAM BY HIMSELF to the Western Conference Semifinals before getting worn out trying to beat the San Antonio Spurs singlehandedly. His supporting cast was Trevor Ariza, Ryan Anderson, and a bunch of one-dimensional centers.

How sure are we that he's a choking-ass bitch, and not an amazing player who hasn't been in the right situation thus far.
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>>77461419
the dude looks like a failed porzingis experiment
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>>77461494
Jokic is better than Porzingis right now. It's not close. Porzingis might be an elite player in a year or two, Jokic is an elite player right now.
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>>77461487
harden > lebron
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After December 15th (when they put him back into the starting lineup full-time) Jokic averaged 19 points, 11 rebounds, and 6 assists per game. That's pretty fucking incredible for a 21 year old.

With Porzingis, so much of his potential is on the defensive end, and he definitely hasn't developed that fully yet. I like him a lot and I think he'll get there, he's a great young player who I love. Jokic is much better right now.
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now that the dust has finally settled...

who was the janetty?
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>>77461664
Is this photoshopped? No way they were on the same team...
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>>77461664
You. They have millions of dimes. You got tendies.
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fuck football heat season cant come soon enough
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>>77461777
reminder they were beaten easily by lelbron
reminder that lebron was the first to ever come back from a 3-1 deficit in the NBA finals
reminder that hes 3-5 in the finals against a western conference that has been significantly better for over 30 years
reminder that rings dont mean shit
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>You're walking down the back alley to your local rec center to get in some reps in by yourself when you're blocked by these two guy talking bout "give me your ball or else"

what do you do?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1Hgp_vJaYc

Who /BBB/ here?
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whats /nba/ approved chinese meal
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>take a single day off having a fun time
>come back to see the LeBron spammer has literally become Larry and samefagged an entire thread he created spamming memes no one cares about or agrees with but him

I'm sorry but this is too much. I cannot handle two Larry's being mentally retarded. This is just disgusting. WE as a community need to ignore this, from the threads he creates down to any post related to the Warriors or Cavs. Just ignore this and keep this place at least decent.
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>>77462091
"what are you gonna do to me? lose another playoff series?"
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>>77462188
I'm 100% sure it's Larry with a different gimmick false flagging as an insane LeBron dickrider.
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Why the fuck are you people still here. The Warriors automatically win.

Like seriously. What the fuck are you guys discussing?
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>the state of this general
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>>77462285
warriors are a snake
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>>77462285
Thanks, almighty soothsayer who forgot that injuries and basketball before this season still exist.
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>>77462413
Not so fast
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>>77462422
>implying you didn't use a proxy to make this post
Nice try, Larrold
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>>77462412
That's what we're reduced to? Injury watch?
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>>77462432
Yes. We want to believe.
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>>77462437
I'm just gonna have fun watching Westbrook and George ball out before they both leave OKC and Sam Presti is hung the next day.
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Explain why this team doesnt win 50+ this season
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>>77460563
unironically best set of reminders in a long time
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>>77461664

westbrook imo
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who wins in a fight between brian windhorst and steven a smith? mma rules
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>>77462465
Uh.... because they're trash and the organization is even worse.
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>Jokic is better than Porzingis right now
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>>77462465
Tell me why they are?
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>>77462494
i agree. Porzingis is a fucking meme
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>>77462486
>A roster with AD,Cousins,Holiday and rondo is trash
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>>77462515
>Rondo
>Cousins

You can't be this deluded right? Two of the biggest bums in the NBA? Against Westbrook and PG, KD, Curry and Green, >Spurs, and CP3 and Harden?

Yeah 50 wins easy mate. Not even in doubt. 2 seed locked up by March.
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>>77462515
>holiday, a PG, and Rondo, a PG who can't shoot and confirmed team cancer with Boogie, another team cancer
>not trash

Literally two centers and two PGs. Worse starting 5 construction ever.
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>>77462541
>>77462544
see you in the finals
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Who the fuck do the Pelicans have at SF?

And reminder that if your team doesn't have an elite SF you're not even making the WCF.
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>>77461777
Yeah what kind of GM could fuck that up?
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>>77462561
warriors are overrated. Its all mindgames.
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>>77462561
>1498939068383-pol.jpg
What kinda filename is that? It come from Google images?
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Only real contenders other than the Warriors are the Spurs, OKC, Cavs even without Kyrie, and the Celtics because there's a meme possibility they get passed a demotivated and dysfunctional Cavs with LeBron already having it in his mind he's leaving next year, just like when he game up in the 2010 playoffs.
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>>77462579
No. It is just the Warriors and a bunch of teams praying that Durant has an injury.
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>>77462573
One of the chan phone apps.
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>>77462591
by offing yourself
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>>77462579
I don't know if PG and Westbrook beats Harden and CP3.

I'm even an OKC fan.
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>>77462597
Bro, you thought someone would believe this? Take a lap reddit
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Westbrook should go to the pelicans
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>>77462502
>Porzingis is a fucking meme
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How many fouls is harden and cp3 going to draw this season?
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>>77462599
I'm fucking serious.

I don't know how PG is gonna handle being the 2nd guy. He might just lose interest playing off the ball.
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>>77462614
What??? Hahahaha. Kys
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>>77462606
im a knicks fan and im telling you hes overrated.
>cant stay healthy
>Anemia issues
>camps the 3 like hes a guard
>cant post up on people half the size
>thinks hes already an allstar
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>>77462591
You just have to pass a simple written test and then a practical test to demonstrate competency of your instrument. It's relatively easy to get in, Clips played the triangle but we've since banned that instrument.
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>>77462481
>>77461181
>>77462181
ayy
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Morey is retarded and the Rockets don't make any since on paper when you think of their shoot threes and only make layups meme strategy.
A bunch of wing defenders that can't shoot, a PF that can't defend, two ball hog guards that've never been successful off the ball in their careers (Harden was ass in the playoffs on OKC and only did well when he had the ball leading the second unit but wasn't above average as a catch and shoot player), and overall lost all their depth from last year.

Strategicly having two point guards running pick and roll on weak side to strong side with dual actions has never worked, takes up too much time from the shot clock, and makes no sense with D'Antoni's offense from last year or any year before. This is a shit show waiting to happen, and I'm not even going to talk about Harden being a team cancer plus Choke Paul being the most annoying control freak midget on earth.
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where's that heat tripfag? tannehill is out for the season lmaoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
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>>77462669
This

I wanna see hims cry.
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This will officially be known as the off season where every GM in the league but maybe 5 went full retard.
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wade county hiding in the shadows after his shit city's shit nfl team's season is already over
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>>77462669
He's in here >>77462050
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Reminder Kobe>LeBron
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>>77462686

explain
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>>77462717
I can only imagine how heart broken and seething LeBron was when he watched MJ say this.

I was praying to God LeBron would post a video on snapshat taking some shot at MJ but we all know LeBron is too bitch made to dare do that. He'd instantly lose. So he had to sit back and cry like a bitch because for the first time in a while he's not getting his way.
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just found out 7kt was arrested trying to get into lollapalooza. apparently Lauren was special guest to some folk band.
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>>77462747
Literally kys. Not figuratively, but literally. Kys.
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>>77462747
can someone give me a brief rundown?
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gets swept in 2007 averaging 22 points on 35% shooting
loses with prime Wade and Bosh while having the biggest meltdown of any star in Finals history
gets destroyed by a record margin by Kawhi and a washed Tim Duncan
loses in 6 games while shooting under 40% for the second time
gets destroyed in 5 games again while your second option scored 29 points on average

I've never seen any GOAT take as many L's on the biggest stage than LeBron. It's actually amazing. I wonder what he has in store for us next year, I can't wait.
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>>77462747
seriously what's his problem?
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>>77462665
I think those are real issues and I think Morey's aware of them - that's the whole idea behind 'upping their risk profile'.

I wouldn't write them off entirely, though - they're a smart organization and it's not impossible they could figure out a way to make that offense work, it's a ton of talent. And Harden and CP3 both obviously think they can play together, which seems important.
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>>77462779
he went off the deep end when larrold doxxed him

captcha: visions lauren
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>>77462774
just because he lost against the best teams doesn't invalidate him being the GOAT faggot
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>positions
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>>77462774
Everybody takes losses. Even MJ took a lot of losses - he just happened to do it in earlier rounds of the playoffs. And he also took a year off to rest and recover ffs. Kareem took a lot of losses. Wilt took a lot of losses. Everyone loses.

And it's kind of a testament to how truly great the Spurs, and lately the Warriors, have been.
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>>77462798
>>77462779
Please take your make believe fairy tails back to your mom's basement tripstalker. No cares about /mu/ drama from 3 years ago
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>just because he lost against the best teams doesn't invalidate him
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>>77462814
Don't even compare the Warriors to the Spurs. The Warriors are on a 3 year meme run pulling bitch moves and cheating while the Spurs have been doing this for decades behind a coach and one all time great PF/C. Not even close.
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>pulling bitch moves and cheating
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>>77462835
They haven't done it for as long, obviously, and so it's not the same thing exactly. but that's the level they've been on the last 3 years.
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>>77462841
Who's that ugly little monkey next to the god king GOAT Brady? I literally don't know who this animal is. Never post this picture again.
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>>77462853
fine
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>>77462841
wtf? how tall is brady?
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>>77462841
they look so fake
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>>77462878
Decently tall. Plus the NBA measure height with shoes on while the NFL does it barefoot.
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>>77462898
1 inch deference
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We can all agree KD > LBJ , right?
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>>77462909
It's actually closer to two unless Tom grew for some reason.
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>>77462918
in what? being a diva? lebron gets so much shit despite having always played the right way with class, not to mention he went up against juggernauts.
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>played the right way with class
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>>77462918
right now I think it's close to equal

over their careers, LBJ is still better probably
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literally cannot stop winning

wl truly outchea

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2725602-stephen-curry-calls-out-doubters-after-shooting-74-in-webcom-golf-tournament
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>>77462928
>playing the right way with class
Hahahahahah. LBJ is a bitch boy. He's a fucking pussy.
KD is better at shooting, which in turn, makes him a better ISO player.
KD is also better at getting to the rim and finishing. He's faster and his first step makes him glide so easily to the basket. LBJ is literally just bulldoze in like a fucking faggot. He has a harder time getting in because of his bulky size
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Literally no one plays the right way and with class but the Spurs and maybe the Detroit Pistons in the early 2000's.
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>>77462962
>KD is also better at getting to the rim and finishing
>faster
Now this is just pure retardation. You don't know shit.
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>Report: Pat Bev Requested Trade from Rockets
Told you guys that place was cancer.
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>>77462973
haha larry we caught another body
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>>77462966
You were almost right. I myself loved the Bad Boy Pistons and Bruce Bowen. Such class.
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Guys, Porzingis and Dirk worked out.

Why are we not talking about this? Fuck the AI meme, we really got something serious here.
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>>77462973
Nah. If you put LBJ and KD on the 3pt line, I would bet all my money that KD could get past a defender way easier. You don't watch enough basketball lmfao.
If you watch LBJ, when he drives to the basket, he's pushes his way in with no space for a layup. KD literally fakes and glides in with lots of space for an easy dunk or layup.
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Y'all like r/nba?
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>Fuck the AI meme
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>>77462994
Still not as gay ass all the gay Curry obsession by Larry and his proxies and this gay LeBron dickrider.
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>>77462994
This general is basically an extension of it
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>>77462973
What? You must be a retard if you think KD is slower than LBJ.
Not only that, but KD is fucking tall and lanky, LBJ is shorter and bulkier. It's literally logic
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>>77462994
>eating shaq's nut makes you grow bigger than shaq

if that's true i'd expect gowiz to be 9 feet tall
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>>77463013
lmao
>based ayy81
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>>77462909
>1 inch deference
>>77462921
>Tom grew for some reason
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>>77463013
top fuckin lel
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>>77462986
>Why are we not talking about this?
we did, a long time ago, where were you? outside? fucking normie.
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>Report: NBA considering limiting pick swaps
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if lebron never wins another title where does his legacy rate?
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I'm 100% sure I could kick Tim Duncan's ass in a kick boxing match.
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>>77463044
>Danny Ainge fleeced the Nets so bad the NBA is changing the rules on trading picks

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>77463048
Lower than Kobe
t. MJ
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Who #MambaThick here?
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>>77463048
barely top 10 all time
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The ring argument is actually valid.
Those that deny it are just butthurt faggots.
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>>77463065
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this is by far the worst general on the entire website
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>>77463051
Try it you fucking midget.

https://twitter.com/EcholsFitness/status/890301631425851392
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Mood

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwqtK2wSjpY
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if lebron pulled out his dick, what % of /nba/ would suck it?
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>>77463095
OH I THINK THEY LIKE ME
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>>77463099
49

The other 49 would suck Curry's
Then 2% (me) hate both
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>>77463099
There are 3-4 LeNuthuggers that regularly post here so maybe less than 10%
Same with Curry.
Then that one Spain faggot for KD.

Now if we're talking Kobe, AI, Westbrook, 90% of the gen would do it no question.
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>>77463070
The rings themselves don't matter very much. If you've won a ring or two, then whatever.

If you have someone who consistently played much worse in the playoffs, like David Robinson or Karl Malone, that matters a lot. But a lot of the people who get blamed for not winning in the postseason put up amazing performances and you can't really shit on them for that.
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>you can't really shit on them
>for losing

lmao
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>>77463152
what software do i need to make that video fx?
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>>77463109
>AI
im going to say it, ai is overrated and a degenerate. dude gambled instead of playing in the big 3, and his only fan here on /nba/ is also a degenerate ai dicklicker. posting ai should be a ban for a day.
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>>77463162
MS-kys
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Not even giving you a (You)
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>>77463095
>the state of hip-hop in 2017
ffs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wa2PeMZnBZ4
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>>77463181
Kanye West is trash, hold this L hypebeast faggot
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>Kanye West is trash
Get a load of this pleb.
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>>77460224
>>77458915
tfw hes wearing melos old number
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DeMar DeRozan just told a journalist to fuck off on Instagram after he saw them predicting 43 wins for the Raps.

Is he delusional?
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All NBA 2000's Team

Nash
Kobe
LeBron
Duncan
Shaq

All Second Team

Kidd
AI
Paul Pierce
KG
Gasol

All Third Team

Chris Paul
Wade
Melo
Dirk
Ben Wallace/Dwight Howard (tied imo)
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>>77463265
With how shit the east is and now having Ibaka for a full year there's no way they don't win 50 games at least. You're retarded to think otherwise. It's not even a mark of how great they are, it's just the conference.
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>>77463272
LeBron on first team 2000s?
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>>77463282
You thought there was a better small forward from the year 2000-2009? Lmao, kys.
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Do you think LeBron is pissed off that Michael Jordan is dissing him?
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>>77463281
>>77463265
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>>77463292
Jesus I guess all the small towards were pretty shit.

2010s the decade of the SF.
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>>77463296
what the fuck is this laggy piece of shit webm
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>>77462747
>folk
you keep using that word, i dont think you know what it means
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>>77463298
>>77463265
I'd tell him to fuck off too tbqhwy, The raptors getting 8 wins worse makes 0 sense
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>>77463374
Patterson :^)
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>>77463397
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2udGJublpU
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>>77462803
Does this mean wilt is the undersputed GOAT? He went up against even more stacked teams and has better stats.
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>>77463397
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lwHpLDgWonM
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>>77463328
>play banjo
>it's how i got admitted to the LD
>i dont think you know what folk means
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>>77463410
no. pre 80s basketball doesn't count.
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>>77463416
try not to talk in memes, what?
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>>77463417
But neither does post 90s
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>>77463435
you mean post 10s... 1980-2009 was god tier basketball.
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So many people still rank Kobe ahead of LeBron. I wonder if LeBron is offended by that?
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>>77461487
>>77462091
>>77462544
>>77462555
>>77462665
>>77462835
>>77463292
>>77463306
>still talking like positions are a real thing in the nba

Fucking casual retarded general.
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so disappointed in mj... he's become one of those old fucks who talks shit on new players... just insecure because lebron's comeback last season validated his GOAT status.
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>new post counter lights up
>nothing here

feels good tbqh
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Daily reminder that Kobr has a 250% win rate in the NBA finals.
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>>77463470
oh look a white man throwing a ball to his puppy dog

COWHERD WAS RIGHT CURRY IS A MULATTO MUTT AHAHAHAH
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>>77463521
Canada, you didn't need to kill a nigga, my gawd.
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>new post
>nothing here

I remember when this guy used to be a pain to block but after analyzing his pattern, it's become child's play at this point
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>>77462820
Is that devin booker in a wig? Weird way to recruit.
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>>77463176
ololol
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>>77457486
>hurr durr my team lost everything is a snake
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Friendly reminder that Javale McGee is the greatest player of our generation.

>∞% win percentage (1-0)
>2-time MVP

How can the rest of the Association compete?
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If you had to win a game with 10 seconds left down 2 which player do you chose to take the last shot?
And fyi LeBron is already on the team in question but we all know no one wants him taking the last shot lel.
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>changing your filename cause you're afraid your picture might be pb'd

ahah we got another one canada!
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>>77463686
my friend, you have made an elementary mathematical error. a 1-0 finals record is 100% win percentage
∞% means you have a ring without ever playing in the finals
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>>77463692
kobe nigga wtf
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>>77463692
Paul Pierce all day
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>>77463692
he always makes the right "call"
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>>77463692
for me, its Lebron James.
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this place used to be good when lebron was in Miami. what went wrong?
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>>77463692
Bill Russell
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>>77463882
if curry, KD and kyrie all end up with more titles than lebron, nobody will ever remember lebron except stat nerds lol
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>>77463945
you should look at hinkie's tutorial and try again
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>>77463882
isn't viral marketing against the rules? stop spamming this shit
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>https://www.instagram.com/p/BXVJFgtFKcR/?taken-by=nba
>Porzingis now actually moves like a 7'3" SG
He's literally starting to out-Dirk young Dirk, while being a dominant defender. How fucked is the NBA?
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>>77464099
>knicks

lmao, eternal 10th seed
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>>77463945
this is true. he's the modern karl malone.
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>>77464116
stop, STOP, im tired of all the hating on this board, STOP IT RIGHT NOW. im tired of the disrespect Carmelo Anthony gets on this board, hating that he doesn't even deserve, we need to make this a board of love and compassion and of peace. Melo is at peace, and so should we. fuck off back to whatever hate cesspool you came form, this is a general of love.
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>>77462835
>meme run

lol

"ok"
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>>77462928
lebron is a complete faggot corporate piece of shit and classless in every way.
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>>77462966
>>77462966
>class
>Detroit pistons early 2000s
>set unbreakable technical foul record

the word you're looking for is GOAT, not class
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>>77464099
>dominant defender.
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>>77464169
That's just Sheed you retard. And it was only because of talking to the refs.

You just singled yourself out as a newfag.
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>>77464180
I'm a pistons fan who watched that whole run so fuck off my guy. You can't have one or two super dirty shit talkers and say your team is a class act. The Detroit Bad Boys had the classiest man in basketball in Joe Dumars but that's entirely negated by Bill Laimbeer and others. Kys
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what is the /nba/ lifestyle?
>>
wew hinkie
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i just want to end it i've cut off communication with the last person i still had communication with
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>>77464481
But you had communication with us....
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wtf is wrong with allen iverson?
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>>77462878
Brady is 6'4 and change barefoot so he's probably 6'5 in shoes while there is no way Curry is 6'3,he is probably 6'1 barefoot.
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>>77464568
He's got issues. He seems to be a tragic individual that overcame obstacles as far as basketball but not really outside of basketball. I imagine all the shit that happened to him as a kid still haunts him.
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>>77464607
i heard he got raped in the 6ers locker room, there was a shady article on it, he talked trash to the wrong people, and he owed a lot of money.
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Reminder KG>Duncan and Malone>Duncan

Dude was literally a center, not a PF and not even close to the greatest PF and inferior in talent to even his own peer Garnett.
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>>77464757
This is fact

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KRdhFMH2nEY
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Sharpshooting SG drafted by what team NBA2k17?
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>>77465279
ye
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JUST
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>>77465944
What do you mean? That's a shit load of chips, he looks like he's doing just fine.
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>>77463298
>Nets above the Bulls and Hawks
>mfw >we out do the Knicks as well
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>>77466475
How many Dlo spamming Lakers fans are going to stay loyal to him and at least post on Nets game threads? Or are they really just that shallow and vapid to switch to Ball and forget Dlo's existence and all the paragraphs they typed defending Dlo and hyping him up just because the Lakers drafted him like the sheep they are?
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im only here to say i hate the brazilian curryfag
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Who is the Neymar Jr. of the NBA?
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>>77467489
LeBron when he went to the Cavs for the second time.
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>>77467557
Seems more like Kyrie. Wants to leave the to lead his own team instead of being in the shadow of a greater player and create a HOF legacy.
>>
>Cavs asked for Booker and Josh Jackson in Kyrie trade talks

What a shitty organization. Is their new GM really this much of a novice?
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>Lebron goes to miami in biggest snake move of the off-season which pisses everyone off and paints him as a villain
>League rigs the finals against him in retaliation so he loses to dirk

>Kevin durant goes to golden snake in biggest snake move ever which pisses everyone off and paints him as a villain
>League gives Kevin Durant finals MVP and makes it as easy as possible for him

why is there always such a double standard against lebron?
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>League rigs the finals against him in retaliation so he loses to dirk
>8 points

Don't @t me
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I won't @ you but it's hard to score when breathing on the other team is an offensive foul and your bread and butter is a physical post game
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>>77468014
>rig
Oh look, the conspiratard LeBron dick rider is back at it again. Go spam Geomotria shit somewhere else loser.
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>>77468075
That's not even 10% accurate. LeBron's bread and butter is transition scoring. You're literally the worst LeBron fan ever not to know that, and he didn't even get a post game until recently.
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LeBron and Warriors spammers should be instabanned on sight.
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>>77464757
Lmao
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>>77468155

hard to score in transition when the ball is in wade's hands and players are allowed to constantly grab your arms and beat you up off ball
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>>77468240
Bro, you're literally complaining that LeBron got bullied by JJ Barea and the corps of Shawn Marion.

Do you know how dumb you sound?
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>>77468186
What you laughing at fucboi? Put KG on the Spurs instead of Duncan it's even more successful.
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LeTrash is going to get exposed so hard next season and I'm going to enjoy every moment! Hahaha
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>>77468723
He's going to give up and bitch all the time about his teammates like 2010 then leave.
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>>77463706
If 3-5 is a 60% finals win record, then 1-0 is ∞(he also hardly played so there's that)
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>>77463214
>the ironing
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>I will never lose
>3-5 finals record

Lmao look like lesnake lelose isn't good at math
>>
>Doc Rivers loses front office role with Clipppers, Lawrence Frank to oversee basketball ops - Woj
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>>77469152
Everyone's been saying this for a while. Doc can't GM for shit. Biggest reason why the Clips clopped. Glad Balmer and West got him to stop.
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>>77469152
Doc will be fired within a year imo
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>>77457612
Nice math, man. 3-5 record means out of 8 possible Finals, he's won 3 of them.
>>
https://mobile.twitter.com/gifdsports/status/893511700313501697
He's really losing it guys. These are the ramblings of a guy who can't handle not being the face of the league anymore.
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>>77469506
nah that's just lebron being being lebron, he's always been a bit of a cringe machine
>>
Look at what you've all done! LeBron is slowly losing his sanity
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>>77469506
It's like a girl that hasn't gotten over her ex and is trying to seem like she isn't shook but actually is
>>
just ignore this lebron hater spamming, might be time to call in pb to handle this
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>>77463272
lmao KG, Pierce, Gasol ahead of Dirk.
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We need OC of lebron in a straight jacket
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>>77469152
He literally sabotaged his whole team and caused CP3 to leave the Clippers so that he could give his son $35 million dollars. He basically pulled the whole Clippers franchise down so his son could be a starter which he doesn't deserve. It's unbelievable. I know we talk about it sometimes but we still don't talk about it enough. He should literally be banned from Hall of Fame consideration for this. One of the most underrated hack jobs of all time. It's ridiculous. He sabotaged what should have been a legitimate title contender by choosing his shitty son over having a bench, and then choosing his shitty son over Chris Paul. It's malpractice. He should be sued.
>>
So if the Pelicans are disappointing this year, Anthony Davis has to be on the trade market, right?

If that ends up being the case, what do you think are the most likely trade destinations for him?
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>>77469951
>thinking Doc being gone as president is a bad thing
Oh look another redditor who doesn't watch the Clips
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>>77469934
>clippers
>legitimate title contender

o i am laffin
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>>77469506
Jesus fucking christ what a drama queen
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>>77469970
>Pelicans
>disappointing
exactly what are they expected to do this year?
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>>77469506
Has the shookening claimed another victim?

He literally said "nigga" on social media....
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>>77470089
8th seed, I think.

I mean, if they can't even make the playoffs with Boogie and Davis, they might as well just blow it up. If they do make the playoffs, maybe they decide to try and keep the gang together.
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>>77469934
>He should literally be banned from Hall of Fame consideration for this.
Wait Doc Rivers was in the discussion for HoF?
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>>77467605
Kyrie led his own team though. Definitely didn't forebode HOF legacy.
>>
>Suns willing to offer Eric Bledsoe, Dragan Bender, and a 1st round draft pick for Kyrie Irving.

Is this too much?
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>>77470349
Seems about right
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>>77470180
1. Tunnel Snakes
2. Rackets
3. Thunder
4. Spurs
5. Blazers
6. Jizz
7. Grizzlies

8th seed is whichever one of these teams has its shit together:
Nuggets
Cloppers
Wolves
Pels

That looks like a tall order for Boogie and Brow, Jrue Holiday, and literally who else.
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>>77470349
How good is Bender IRL
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>>77470426
>2. Rackets
>Spurs 4th

I've never meant the term kys more than any other day.
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>>77470426
I'm not saying that they're going to make the playoffs. I agree that their roster sucks pretty hard.

I'm saying, from the New Orleans FO point of view, I think they're mostly waiting to see if they have a shot at making the playoffs, and if they don't they're going to start thinking about trading Davis.
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>>77470512
the regular season is meaningless and the rockets will be very good at it
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>>77469152
I don't understand how he wasn't canned for giving his garbage ass son a contract extension.
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>>77470349
It's not enough IMO
>>
Do you think you're better off alone ?
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>>77470548
>if they don't they're going to start thinking about trading Davis.
Why? Trading Davis won't get them any closer to the playoffs. No one's going to give them pieces/picks that will be better than Davis. They might as well hold on to him for attendance.
>>
>>77469506

This is what a 60% win rate in the NBA finals looks like. Kobr had a 250% win rate and he never acted like a girl that got dumped her date at the last second.
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>>77470548
new orleans FO also knows how tough the west is. Boogie would probably be gone first if they try to rebuild.
>>77470512
spurs not very impressive in the playoffs last year with copses and Fatridge having to step up. I want to believe.
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>>77470611
Talk to me, ooh~ ooh~ ooh~ yeah, talk to me.
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>>77470671
>spurs not very impressive in the playoffs last year
Holy shit, literally kys. This is ridiculous.
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>>77470671
Not that guy, but he's right. Kys
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>>77470671
Lmao, kys
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>>77470512
He might have a point tho. Pops is a GOAT coach, but you can't win with Kawhi, Bumridge and a bunch of living fossils
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>>77470671
>WCF and ass raping the Warriors until Kawhi got injured
>Not impressive
Kys, probably that retarded Rockets fan
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>>77470769
>>77470671
Kys
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>He might have a point tho. Pops is a GOAT coach, but you can't win with Kawhi, Bumridge and a bunch of living fossils

You're still seething.
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>>77470698
>>77470724
>>77470735
>>77470771
>>77470790
marc gasol took them to 7 games
kys
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>>77470698

>>77470724
>>77470735

>kys
Schools starting up soon. All these kids will be posting a lot less soon.
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>this rockets guy is still this retarded after all the shit from last playoffs
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>>77470844
That nigga ugly as fuck.
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>>77470832
>>77470838
kys
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>>77470640
>>77470671
Boogie's contract is expiring at the end of the year so you would have to think (1) he's not that valuable as a trade chip and (2) if they're not going to be any good he's probably just going to sign somewhere else.

And I think, if you're in a position with Davis where you basically know that you're not going to make the playoffs, don't you have to start thinking seriously about trading him? What's the point of keeping him on a team that's going to be the 9th or 10th seed every year for 3 or 4 years? If you're not ever going to be able to build a real playoff contender around him and he's just leaving in 3 or 4 years, you might as well blow it up now and start the rebuild. And to be frank, that's their reality no matter what, but I don't see how they can even pretend that's not the case if they don't make the playoffs this season.

Again I want the Pellies to be good and I hope they're good, I love the franchise and I love their coaching staff and I love AD and I love Boogie and I love Jrue as a person even if I don't love him as a player. I hope they're good. But if they're a team that's in a situation where they're locked in to the 9th or 10th seed, that's paying the luxury tax, that doesn't have any realistic hope of improvement, what is the earthly use of that for anyone?
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>>77470831
Well it took Harden completely collapsing during an elimination game...and this year they have CP3, assuming he isn't injured yet lmao
>>
What win % does Jordan have in the finals?
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>>77470832
Marc Gasol is a really good player.

That said I do agree that the Spurs have more issues than we want to acknowledge. Kawhi is a superstar and Pop is a great coach but Jesus their roster is really starting to look fucking thin after that. They don't even have their best bench mob guys from last year in Simmons and Dedmon. They're relying on a lot of guys who are visibly aging and declining. I think they might finish below the Rockets and I think they're vulnerable to a playoff upset.
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>>77470919
If that's how you view it you're beyond mentally retarded. It was because how completely retarded Harden is and how flawed Antoni's meme system is to the point the Spurs have regularly beat him, Harden regularly choking in the playoffs, and being completely inept to the point he had to be carried by the refs in the first round against a lottery team tier OKC and only showing up for 3/11 playoff games played.
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>>77470952
How many years did LeBron take off in the prime of his career
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>>77470969
If that's your reasoning the Rockets bench is way worse, lost Lue who carried them against OKC when everyone else including Harden was ass, and got worse overall, getting older and adding two wings that can't shoot and a ball hog PG to a team that already had a ball hog PG. You're mentally retarded. Goodbye.
>>
Looks like the Spudoras fans are starting to become shook. It's fitting since Pop is going senile with ridiculous contracts.
>>
This Rockets poster is literally retarded, why are you replying to him?
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>>77470991

Harden with another man is a western conference finals appearance. Pop and his robot kawahi won't be stopping them. Sorry if you think the spurs beating harden and an bunch of role players in 6 is an accomplishment and worth mentioning as an example of what happens next season.
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>>77470952
>can't win at basketball
>can't win at baseball
>can't win at futbol
>can't win at fucking hockey
>can't even get an NFL team to move up north because the CFLol is afraid of competition
>PM is a cuck
OOOOOH CANADA
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What did Westbrook mean by this?
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>>77470991
Yeah, but they added a CP3 who actually wants to play with Harden and vice versa, which implies they're both willing to change the way they play to some degree, seeing as both are high usage guards. Unless SA manages to pick up another star, I don't see them making it to the WCF.
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>>77462409
>warriors are a snake
>US flag
everything ok there anon?
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>>77471233
>which implies they're both willing to change the way they play to some degree
this will not happen
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>>77471224
What's with him and these Disney stars/pop singers?
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>>77471130
yo shutup
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>>77471233
This is a combination of homerism, wishful thinking, and straight up ignorance.
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>>77471267
It's more than Disney.
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>>77471266
I mean, it HAS to on some level. They both know that two guards who love to have the ball in their hands an insane amount probably won't make it to the WCF much less beat the Warriors. There's gotta be some kind of plan there.

Otherwise what was the point of going to Houston, other than the Clippers just trying to fuck up Houston? And if that's the case, why would houston accept?
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>>77471342
>homerism
Not even a Rockets fan. Knicks fan.
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Funny how no one is talking about us or our big signings in KCP and Lopez. Lol, see you assholes in the playoffs.
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>>77471396
It's the high chcheekbones and strong jawline.
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>>77471471
See you in the finals bro.

SKREEEEEOOOOONNNKKKK
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>>77471471
I seriously hope you guys make it and fuck up the celcucks pick
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>>77471061
If you just hate CP3 and Harden then whatever

>>77471471
lol
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>kyrie leaves
>lebron inevitably leaves
>team is left with declining players and albatross contracts
>owner unironically uses comic sans
What happens here?
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>>77471917
Suicide, if you're a Cleveland fan.
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>>77471917
sad that lebron got one for da land but Cleveland couldnt get one foe dabron
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>>77457486
KD did nothing wrong.
Anyone would give away millions to play with based curry.
jealous lelbron fanhomos
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>>77471224
that kid is way to big to be holding like a baby
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What's up with all these redditors recently???
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>>77472206
Someone linked this place to r/rockets
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>>77472497
>bleacherreport
>phone posting
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Reminder that Michael Jordan beat the Monstars with Bill Murray and Daffy Duck. LeBron could never do that.
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>>77472583
Not only that but his team was literally down by 40+ points at the half. Greatest comeback of all time.
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>>77472699
hey about you talk about how derozan is becoming an online bully on Instagram and throwing balls at refs in the drew league. i thought canucks were peaceful.
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>>77472718
DeRozan is from compton
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>DeRozan is from compton
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>>77472836
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>>77472876
is you ready for the uprising next seez? bulls have a fresh young core lol.
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Anyone else forget that the Suns exist sometimes?
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>>77472899
Can't wait for the Lakers to win games and fuck up the Celshits draft pick which will also help my rapties in the long run. The uprising is real.
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>>77472902
no, but the magic sometimes
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>>77457486
WHAT THE HELL? Why did the NBA eliminate "Home" and "Road" uniform designations? This will be so confusing. Teams should just automatically wear white at home, unless it's the Lakers. I don't understand this at all:
http://www.nba.com/article/2017/07/18/nba-nike-new-uniforms
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>>77472927
skip bayless has confirmed / spoken us into the playoffs. we just need the raptors to at least makes the playoffs for maximum shitposting. desu oc needs to be made, standby.
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>>77472899
It's young, and it's fresh, but it's not good

Lauri is a good prospect but might not ever be a good defender. LaVine is a decent rotation player but that's it IMO. Dunn was extremely bad last year and maybe he'll be good next year but it's hard to get excited about a guy who's already that old and was that terrible. Payne has looked awful since his injury. Valentine is already 23 and was garbage last year. Bobby Portis looks like he might be an OK PF, I guess, but Lauri also plays PF.

I don't know. It's definitely a bunch of young guys but I don't know how you can excited you can get over that as your core going forward.
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Bulls are a dumpster fire. Their whole roster is trash and they passed on Dennis Smith and Malik Monk and sold their 2nd that was Jordan Bell.

I hope Wade will go full locker room cancer on them
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how many people here are currently on psychiatrist percribed meds?
count: I
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>>77473014
>>77473039
zipser tho
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>>77473014
as a member of the lakers raptors bulls new board order, we have no choice but to get excited, anything else is punishable by death my-non.

>>77473039
>Bulls are a dumpster fire
thats what they said about that blazers team a couple season ago and look at what they did, went to the playoffs with lillard and al farouq aminu.
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I just got a job in downtown LA
Going to bandwagon the Lakers

how much of a faggot am I?
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>>77473086
that white boy euro they drafted? he's ass. i still think dunn is good but thibbs is a fucking fat retard. idk about lameme though. but dunn, he still has a chance.
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>>77473092
lilliard by himself has more value than the whole bulls roster.
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>Knicks hoped to force Oakley into anger management classes

THE JEW YORK KNICKS LOL, and don't forget they banned him for a year from the arena.
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>>77473064
2

>>77473086
the Bulls might not win a lot of games but their lineups will have an undeniable and important advantage in the number of bones in their feet

>>77473092
Which player on the Bulls do you think is as good right now as Lilliard is/was/has been
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>>77473159
At least they get rid of lavine. All those memes dunkers are the most overrated in the league (oladipo, aron gordon)
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>>77473159
Dunn is a lottery ticket at best, basically. He's a reclamation candidate.
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>>77473181
What are anger mangement classes ? Is it common on your country?
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>>77469983
>redditor
>watching clippers
those two things only have one thing in common, autism
they should be together
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>>77473199
It's when you get arrested for reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee-ing in real life and they make you go to classes to try and get you to stop reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee-ing.
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>>77473181
>the absolute city of James Dolan's house band
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>>77473159
zipser is an NBA rotation player. ok guy to have come off the bench. no homerism either
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we coming bros
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>>77473309
they coming too bros
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>>77472984
>This will be so confusing.
No, not really.
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>>77473361
can't forget the backbone
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>>77473191
>Which player on the Bulls do you think is as good right now as Lilliard is/was/has been
forgot to answer you lol, but i think, Dwade, dude can still help a contender and not just as a bench piece but at this point in his career i can still see him being a #3 guy. should have gone to cleveland with melo.
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>>77473455
Wade is super cooked. Like... last season, he was already worse than Lillard was in 2014, I think. And he's not going to play better now that the rest of the team has fallen apart around him.

I think he can be a useful starter on a playoff contender, although I don't even know if he's a good #3, or a really good bench guy, but he is super cooked and I think he's past the point where he has any chance of leading a team to the playoffs.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ruFV6_C7jyQ
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>>77469152
There goes Austin Rivers!
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should my lakers tank for zion? imagine lebron and zion on the same team? wewkobe
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>>77473414
>be Timberwolves
>playing Grizzlies in Memphis
>they wearing "road" unis
>WE ARE THE ROAD TEAM
>pass ball to Grizzlies players by mistake all game
See, this could totally happen.
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>>77473766
he's in the 2019 draft class
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>>77473181
Banning someone from watching Knicks games is a gift.
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>>77473290
Do you think Mark Cuban /bully/ Dolan during meetings?
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It's sad, very sad i tell you. We all can be sitting here watching the best damn player to ever play the game, and some of you are here all day every day, hating on the man that, when it's all said and done, could be the greatest basketball player in all of the history of mankind. Reminder that. Reminder, that the KD gooch suckers will argue here for hours that Snake-D did nothing wrong, that he wanted to win, well then why should you judge lebron differently? Except the difference is Lebron had to fight his way, imagine that, an ENTIRE LEAGUE basically teamed up against lebron, they do not want him to win, imagine being an NBA player playing against the guy who has a legitimate chance of surpassing jordan, there's no way in hell you'd want that, not even his own teammate, the fucking Snake Kyrie Irving, pathetic.

Listen to /ourguy/ cowherd at the 9:00 mark, shit, watch the whole thing if you want to be Lebron-pilled.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kADVLAu9nKE

it took 4 of those snakes to beat him, it took teams to stop him. and even in his what 14th - 15th year in the league and they are STILL trying to stop him. What's scary is he hasn't shown much signs of slowing down, dude has probably 10+ years left. If he wanted to he could win a ring for every team and then retire, but no, keep talking about the system spurs and the Golden snakes, ill be here chilling with shannon sharpe and lebron sipping beer in cleveland.
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>shits on westbrook
>our guys
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Honestly I think the Celtics might have gotten worse

How can you lose their best two way player and get worse on defense and expect to beat the Cavs?
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>stack the deck with Wade and Bosh
>do it again with Kyrie and Love after getting slaughtered by Kawaii
>get butthurt when KD copies your faggotry and closes your window
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>>77474177
>closes your window
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Gordon Hayward is still a significantly better player than Avery Bradley
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where do i get sick hair gains like this

a-a-asking for a friend
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>>77474177
>old wade and bosh
>iso irving and spot up 3 love
>comparable to curry, klay, and draymond on a 73 win team all entering their primes


"no"
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Ainge? Who cares about dullest GM in the dullest franchise in the history of sports franchises!? Seriously, each trade following the Allen and Garnett trade from the Twolves has been indistinguishable from the others. Aside from the death of Fab Melo, the Celtics only consistency has been its lack of free agent signings and ineffective use of assets, all to make possible impossible, to make team chemistry seem inert.

Perhaps the die was cast when Ainge vetoed the idea of drafting Markelle Fultz; he made sure the franchise would never be mistaken for a seriously contending team that meant anything in the playoffs? Just ridiculously profitable cross-promotion for his son's political career. The Boston Celtics might be anti-rebuilding (or not), but it’s certainly the anti-Process in its refusal of scouting, drafting and obtaining generational talent. No one wants to face that fact. Now, thankfully, they no longer have to.

>a-at least the 2008 championship team was good though r-right
"No!"
The offense was dreadful; the play calling terrible. As I watched live, I noticed that every time Doc Rivers called a time-out, the assistant coach jumped up and wrote "just give Rondo the ball," on the whiteboard.

I began marking on the back of an envelope every time that phrase was repeated. I stopped only after I had marked the envelope several dozen times. I was incredulous. Rivers's mind is so governed by stalled iso's and dreadful out of bounce plays that he has no other style of coaching. Later I heard a critique of his coaching by the same Mike Woodson. He said something to the effect of, "If these players are loving Doc Rivers as a rookie or second year player, then when they are vets, they will go on to love Mike Woodson." And he was quite right. He was not being ironic. When you play for "Doc Rivers" you are, in fact, trained to play for Mike Woodson.
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Also, Crowder and Smart were both statistically better defenders than Avery Bradley last year. Despite also playing tons of minutes with Isaiah.
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>>77474364
>b-but they were old
Still on the tail end of their prime years. Once they really started to age, he bailed
>b-b-b-but Kyrie is actually bad because he didn't win a title as a rookie!
Stop embarrassing yourself over lelbron, dude. It's pointless.
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@77474413
@77474315

Avery was your best defender
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lmao why are people overrating Avery fucking Bradley as if he's Scottie Pippen or some shit.
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>needs 2006 ultra Wade to not embarrass himself against Dirk
>shits on Kyrie after he hit the Shot That Saved Cleveland

Lelbron fans were a mistake.
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>>77474420
I know everyone believes this, and I hate being a contrarian, and I'm sure there's something I'm missing here.

But like... the Celtics were a better defensive team with Smart and Crowder on the court than with Bradley in 2017. And you can't put that all on playing next to Thomas, since Smart and Crowder also played next to Thomas. Teams scored more points against the Celtics with Bradley than with Smart or Crowder.

Bradley is a really great on-ball defender but they weren't as good defensively when he was on the floor. And the same was true in the playoffs. And Crowder was also better statistically in 2015-16, so I don't think it's entirely a fluke. I don't claim to know what the fuck is going on there, but it makes it hard for me to think that their defense is going to fall apart without Bradley.
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>>77474416
irving literally only scores and nobody has ever tried to dispute that. stop making it out to be that the situations were comparable when they weren't
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Whos second best defender in the league after kawhii? Avery Bradely. You can make a case for roberson but bradley is a better offensive option than roberson.

east:
shumpert?
wall?
giannis?
Avery bradley is the best defender in the east, and you traded him for a mid-tier offensive wing lol.
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>>77474533
But like, what makes Avery Bradley better though
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>>77474284
Uh, sweetie. LeBron's window IS closed. Giannis is about to rise. Boston is a powerhouse with Hayward. LeBron, on the other hand, replaced Kyrie with Derrick "Glass" Rose.
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>>77474431
I can't stand you bandwagon fake Celtics fans, it' so obvious when you're false flagging to make us look dumb.

Our team has two major flaws, which we didn't address this off season. Lack of size and lack of rebounders. But there's a third one now, we actually got worse on defense because we lost a superior defender in Bradley and brought in Hayward who Utah had to hide on defense because he can't move laterally and Gobert was covering his ass whenever he got smoked.

So, we got worse on defense and we still (at this point in time) have to eventually play a Cavs team who we couldn't stop from scoring? We're still playing Horford out of position at C? We're now gonna ask Jaylen to play SG because Danny brought in 3 more SFs this offseason?

Granted, Tatum looks like an above average rebounder so that may help a bit if he's going to be play some 4, but we're still undersized.

This is troubling because we could potentially get knocked out in the first round if we match up with the wrong team, someone with versatile bigs who can spread the floor and a decent first step? If Horford is guarding someone like Porzingis or Embiid (unlikely to make the playoffs but just to make a point), and suddenly the lane just opens up because you got Brown, Tatum, IT and Hayward behind them? No, that's a recipe for disaster.

Which makes me wonder what Danny is doing. Howard was available extremely cheap, he would have defended and rebounded and Hayward would already be comfortable running similar plays with him that Gobert and him ran. Why not get him? Why try to get George and Butler (though Butler makes sense since he's primarily a SG and at least has a chance of slowing LeBron as a defender) when you already got all these wings?

>>77474533
Literally this, but what's worse, another shitty wing who can't rebound.

We have the Bucks, Raptors and Wizards nipping at our heels and we do this? Even the 76ers and Heat could pose problems first round matchups

What the hell Ainge
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>Boston is a powerhouse with Hayward
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>>77474562
>thinks a window is one season
come back when you know basketball faggot. i fucking swear these retarded millenial memes fans watch 2 seasons and all of a sudden they think know basketball. fucking ruining our board.
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The Great White Hope about to get in LeBron's ass like a bike without a seat
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>>77474582
>>77474582
I agree that size and rebounding are problems, although that's also the direction the league is running generally so it hurts you less.

I just don't see that losing Bradley hurts their defense *that much* when statistically their best defensive units didn't have him, or how concerned you can really be about playing a small forward in your rotation instead of a traditional SG. I don't think those are real issues. Bradley's a good player, but he's not the end of the world. And I really think people are underrating Hayward. He's a very good offensive wing and more importantly, how much more is having another excellent offensive player who can get his own shot going to open up their offense? How much is that going to help them in crunch time? How much better and more balanced is that going to make their offense?

And, I mean, really, you want your team to sign DWIGHT HOWARD? You're really worried about the Bucks and the Raptors? I mean, the Wizards I'll give you, I guess, John Wall and Beal are badasses, but I feel like the Celtics are still CLEARLY better top to bottom.

I'm not even a fucking Celtics fan I just don't understand the hate for their moves (with the exception of trading Fultz for Tatum which was dumb as shit but won't make a difference for next year, and getting Butler, which they should have done if it was on the table but we'll never really know). They got more talented than they were before, and they're a well-balanced modern team. They need a decent defensive/rebounding/energy bench big but that's basically it. Their biggest flaw is that their best player is shorter than me, and Dwight Howard isn't going to fix that and neither is anyone else. It doesn't make sense to me at all.
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>>77474582
tl;dr
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>>77474582
>This is troubling because we could potentially get knocked out in the first round if we match up with the wrong team
if you guys play the heat you guys are fucked, Dragic is one tough sob, and whiteside is the best C in the east >inb4 embiid.
Should have thrown 2 picks/assets to the pistons for Drummond.
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>>77474768
Andre Drummond is a bum

HE'S A BUM
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>>77474638
Oh I see, well where the fuck will LeBron go after Cleveland then? Certainly not the west. The man hates competition. Back to Miami? New York? Go to Bawston, seriously? There's no viable team where he could go and make a team that can compete with GS.
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>>77474801
He's going to the Western Conference, OP
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>>77474796
no YOU, maybe next season is the season where he reveals whats he's been up to.

>>77474801
>Certainly not the west.
>There's no viable team where he could go and make a team that can compete with GS.

Cmon, *sigh*, are you serious? he can go to any team and conference in any league in the world and they instantly become a contender. The last two cavs team had injuries to either their big 3 or their supporting cast
>bogut ded
>korver played like ass
>kyrie injured year on of the return
>love ded from boston
>no playmaker
>deron williams
>shumpert ass

jr smith is a gamble every night. and on top of that he has an unstable organiation, literally any team on the west would make a better team than what he has in cleveland. He could go to the mavs and they'd be contenders. Lebron in the west is an instant finals trip, every year.
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>>77474885
i take this back, any team but the denver nuggets. their ass-ness surpasses LBJ's greatness, fuck denver.
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>>77474885
>no YOU, maybe next season is the season where he reveals whats he's been up to.

I hope so but it just feels like he's the guy who has one incredible skill and so everyone overrates him until we realize he can't do anything else. He's such a fantastic rebounder but the rest of his game needs so much work.

Needs to learn to play within himself on offense, and also learn how to shoot free throws, and also stop fouling so much, and also improve defensively.

>>77474934
That team would be so much fucking fun to watch though

It'll never happen but just imagine having Jokic, Murray, and Bron on the floor at the same time, it'd be incredible
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>>77474680
t. 24/7 Celticsanon
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>their ass-ness surpasses LBJ's greatness
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>it's another Celtics hate thread

Lmao it seems like this happens every few days. Pathetic and sad. Jealousy isn't healthy
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nice blog's
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>/nba/ will argue anything

1. Michael Jordan
2. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
3. Magic Johnson
4. Larry Bird
5. LeBron James
6. Shaquille O'Neal
7. Hakeem Olajuwon
8. Tim Duncan
9. Bill Russell
10. Wilt Chamberlain

Does this trigger Kobe fans?
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>>77475649
>Lebrick
>Hakmeme
>Duncan't
You could've at least tried
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>>77475649

Are we ranking primes or careers? Lebron has a better career than Bird and Kobe/TD had better careers than shaq but you could argue Bird's peak was higher than Lebron's and Shaq's peak was in indubitably better than Kobe/Duncan
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>>77475711
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Start a debate in the comments, don't fight tho you walking Ls.

Is this statement true?

Better legacy / Greatest Legacy : Michael Jordan

Better Basketball Player : LeBron James
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>>77476059
>Better Basketball Player : LeBron James

nah
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>>77476025
>get called out for baiting
>n-no, YOU'RE baiting
begone fishposter
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Will Boogie be a Hall of Famer once he retires?
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>>77475649
Hakeem and Shaw weren't that good

1. MJ
2. KAJ
3. Magic
4. Russell
5. Bird
6. Wilt
7. Duncan
8. Kobe
9. LeBron
10. Shaw or Hakeem

I value rings highly as you see by my ranking but in Russell's cases, the league was extremely weak then so I have to take that into account. Bird I think was underrated and his rings mean a lot to me considering the East was good back then. In Wilt's case, I moved him up from what I originally had him (9 or 10) because of his per season ppg and 100 point game. Duncan over Kobe is just my opinion, you could flip them though, I think they are essentially interchangeable.

I just find it weird that people put LeBron top 3 so soon. That's why I got him at 9. He only has 3 rings, all of which were won in a tremendously weak Eastern Conference. Plus his shitty Finals record. I do give him some credit for beating that 73 win Warriors team, and getting Cleveland a ring so in my head canon he has essentially what amount to 4 rings (2 miami, 1 cleveland that's worth the same as two).

I will say this. If LeBron was to win another ring, I think I would be find with him jumping up all the way to top 5.
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Yo straight up, if ya head quit on you like this, wouldn't you just go bald for life??? The top of his head is allergic to hair my nigga.... No Photoshop, just a screenshot from his Insta Story... you can go check it right now...
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>>77475649
I don't even know why I'm bothering to argue this, but Wilt was better than Shaq, Hakeem, Duncan, and Russell.

also Lebron is definitely better than Magic and probably better than Bird. otherwise, carry on

>>77476092
I love Boogie but it's not clear to me that he's ever going to be on a good team unfortunately
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Kobe over Shaq is ridiculous. Prime Shaq was a juggernaut.

LeBron has lost too many Finals series in a spectacular fashion. He's no longer in the discussion for being the GOAT.
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Who is the better scorer?

Kobe or curry
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In all seriousness, how are you going to put Kobe as a top-10 all time player, when he was never the best player on a championship team
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>>77476199
Curry. A million times over. It's not even close. The very question is ludicrous. I'm insulted you would even suggest it.
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>>77476185
Shaq never reached his full potential due to just not giving a fuck, I couldn't in good conscience put him about Kobe knowing that Kobe maxed out his potential.

His absolute prime (2000-2003) was amazing but he got fat, he stopped caring about basketball and was delaying surgeries so he could heal "on company time."

It's like McGrady's prime was amazing too but because of injuries he never reached his full potential.
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Just ignore the Kobe/LeBron hater, it's cherry's new gimmick...I got pb on the case don't worry
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>>77476259
Kobe maxed out his potential and still wasn't as good as Shaq even with all of Shaq's flaws
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@77476285
That's your opinion, and boy are you wrong.
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>>77476140
>Wilt was better than Shaq, Hakeem, Duncan, and Russell.

You've convinced me. Revised list:

1. Michael Jordan
2. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
3. Magic Johnson
4. LeBron James
5. Larry Bird
6. Wilt Chamberlain
7. Shaquille O'Neal
8. Hakeem Olajuwon
9. Tim Duncan
10. Bill Russell (because of rangz)
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@77476298
>leaving Kobe off your list
You won't get a reply from me though
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@77476222
Has Curry scored 81 points in a game? No. Kobe is the better raw scorer. Curry is better at memeing.
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>>77468014
KD is full snake mode, but Lebron's move made him evil incarnate. Everyone knew kd was a bitch and 2nd to lebron anyways so it wasnt the same
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I will never understand why people rank Hakeem so highly. His career doesn't hold up to Duncan's, Kobe's, Shaq's, and a bunch of others
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@77476129
It's not a big deal man, it's just hair. I don't know what your weird obsession with LeBron is.
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@77475271
Because there's some dude here that won't admit losing Avery Bradley and getting back Gordon Hayward is a net loss, which it is. They got way worse defensively and marginally better on offense. They also lost guard depth and argued like 4 more SFs this summer, not even memeing.
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@77474681
You probably should read it. It's a quality post and that's what this general has been missing for a long time.
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>six (6) @posts
lmao the absolute state of this guy
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>>77476337
>I will never understand why people rank Hakeem so highly.

Most skilled center ever. One of the best offensive and defensive centers ever. Much better individually than Duncan. Outplayed and swept Shaq in the Finals. >Kobe
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@77474508
Crowder is shit. Literally one of the worst players, horrible shot selection him and Smart on the court for extended minutes is going to drive me crazy. Listen to me when I say this, Bradley will be sorely missed this season when they are forced to put IT on john wall or lowry or kyrie (if he stays) or the other multiple dynamic guards in the league. Good luck having Horford cover for IT's ass lmao
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@77476398
Two rings. He's a fringe top 10 player.

@77474562
Brogdon is dirty and Boston got worse. LeBron is just beginning to fulfill his god dream.
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>>77476337
The main reason I value Hakeem so highly is because he was good-to-great on both ends of the floor. Elite two-way center with 2 rings. And one of the best post games ever.
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>>77476484

How does that not apply to Duncan and Kobe who also have more accolades
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>>77476504
The same reason LeBron is ahead of them both despite having 2 less rings.
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>refusing to give (You)s left and right
>the absolute state of this general
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>>77476408
Yeah, they're going to need to find somewhere to hide IT. Of course they are. As long as he's on the court you're going to need to find somewhere to hide him. that's how life goes when your best player is 5'7.

I'm not really going to argue with you about the rest of it b/c what's the point of arguing with someone who thinks Avery Bradley is better than Gordon Hayward. that's just stupid.
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@77476564
>Bradley is better than Gordon Hayward
That's literally not what I said, but Bradley DID fill a need the Celtics had and no that he's gone, the TEAM will be worse even though the individual TALENT is better....get it? not hating tho keep hustling and stay in school, kid
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>>77476528

That doesn't make any sense. Lebron's combo of skill's, stats, accolades, etc. put him in rare territory. You can't make the same claim about Hakeem especially in comparison to TD/Kobe. You can claim he was more skilled but that doesn't really hold up under any type of objective comparison. In that situation I would argue that Kobe's/Duncan's additional accolades put them well above Hakeem
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>>77476504
I'd probably have Duncan above Hakeem personally but they're close enough that I'm not going to get mad at someone having them switched. Duncan is hard to rate in some ways.

And I think Kobe's defense is probably overrated somewhat. Not that he was a bad defender, but I don't know how many seasons he was an elite defender.
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>>77476615
>That doesn't make any sense. Lebron's combo of skill's, stats, accolades, etc. put him in rare territory.

Same thing can be said of Hakeem vs. Duncan or Kobe. Listen, individually the Dream was better than either of those guys. It's not really close. I'm close to putting him ahead of Shaq too.
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teh celtics suck
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Is Reggie Jackson the least tradable player in the league?

I think I'd rather have Noah personally, at least Noah isn't a huge asshole
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>>77476670
Hakeem gets overrated by brainlet fans because he got his points by twisting and dancing around, while other bigs did it in more straightforward ways. Hakeem is probably the worst player in the top 50 list and not even top 10 center all time.
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>>77476670
>Listen, individually the Dream was better than either of those guys

lmao shut your mouth man hakeem is overrated and if jordan never retired he would have been another ringless "legend"
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>>77476337
probably because you're a fucking 12 year old faggot
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>>77476817
>he got his points by twisting and dancing around

They're called post moves, sweetie.
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>>77476337
Because of that 1995 playoff run, the greatest of all time.
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