/mlb/ general - CRAIG BIGGIO edition

The most beta posters always have to do this floorgazing limp-wristed milquetoast "we" or >we when talking about their team. MMR does it, those faggy Mariners trips do it, and now eternal bait-takers the Giants are doing it.

Just say we did it, faggot, who cares jesus
>s-s-sorry I included myself
Not a total of two nuts between any of you

Is everyone ready to see FactsAreFacts continue doing his half-assed impression of DG/mo'Lester?

Also

Can't wait until this general is entirely Dodgers posting. We're actually making /mlb/ greater again unlike the milquetoast discussion that has dominated the past few years.

>>77432258
Why don't you try and imposter a straight man this time homo.

just got home from the Rockies game
>mest

>>77432261
I've been here longer than those two, the latter no longer exists btw. But keep staying obsessed and milquetoast like the faggot you are.

Start the thread over and make it men only/straight men/alpha. This is real bad this time.

>>77432268
A game between two milquetoast teams? Oh wow, so exciting! Go see a real baseball game between real teams.

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>>77432271
>milquetoast

>>77432271
Sure you have mo. I thought you were an Astros fan now?

>>77432275
I had fun! I hope your team does well for the 2nd half of the season and/or playoffs!

>>77432287
Well of course, we're winning it all and both of your teams won't make the playoffs.

>>77432292
Haha, we'll see! Baseball isn't only a game of skill and competent play, but one also of "momentum" and, dare I say it, "luck"?!

>>77432268
What kind of milquetoast faggot roots for two teams?

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>>77432246

>>77432275
>Not going to as many baseball games as possible

I bet you've never even gotten drunk at a minor league baseball game on dollar beer night.

>>77432309
He was at a minor league baseball game though. What's your point?

Friendly reminder not to reply to mo'Lester's new trips every time he decides to cheer for a new team.

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>>77432314
>tripfag fanboys

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>>77432313

>>77432317
That's how I look when I wake up after dollar beer night.

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>I have to emulate Brooks Robinson's MVP season just to get a Cal Ripken card
this is going to be a nightmare

Yes, Schwarzer, you may of gotten your first career home run tonight as well, but did you record your 2000th K?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJWtDfO-sU8

Giving up 10 runs in the first? Don't remember that guy.

>>77432273
>men
Pretty sure /sp/ is pushing 100% already.
>straight men
I don't presume to assume.
>alpha
Not a single one of us, that's the entire point of 4chan.

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this thread is balls

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>his warm up pitch bounced short and several feet left of catcher
>the entire city of max scherzer

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>>77432332
disgusting

biggio?

>>77432359
craig?

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>astros baseball

Who says it's only a game?

>>77432413
Can someone post me a webm or gif of kershaw screaming 'NOOOOOO' after giving up that homerun to Rizzo in the NLCS?

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>>77432437

>>77432445
lol damn he was pissed haha

Yeah the Cubs assraped >us but at least I don't live in Chicago.

>>77432452
>you have to go back

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>>77432261
Why not block all trips and be free of their faggotry?

>Stroman liking tweets that suggests Buck hates him

Man what a passive aggressive move

>>77432449
Pissed? That's the look of pure despair that you couldn't carry your team and got outpitched by a middle of the rotation pitcher.

>>77432531
well as Gatorade says, "Make defeat your fuel"

Kersh sure has a lot of fuel to burn this postseason.

Tell me a story about the Dodgers.

>>77432539

>kershit

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>>77432539
Once, Dusty Baker (then a Dodger) and a gay player the Dodgers had invented something now known as the "High Five"

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> Lasorda inserted Gibson as his pinch hitter. Gibson hobbled up to the plate with Scully commenting, "And look who's coming up!" Gibson quickly got behind in the count, 0–2, but received two outside pitches from Eckersley to work to a 2–2 count. He then swung clumsily and dribbled the ensuing 2–2 pitch foul down the first base line, which seemed to confirm his inability to swing with any authority. On the sixth pitch of the at bat – a ball – Davis stole second. Dodger manager Tommy Lasorda later recounted it was pre-planned that if the count got to two strikes on Gibson, they would have Davis steal second, figuring that A's manager Tony La Russa wouldn't elect to intentionally walk Gibson if there were already two strikes against him. Once Davis was at second, Lasorda was just hoping Gibson could muscle a pitch to the outfield for a game-tying single.
>Gibson would later recount that prior to the Series, Dodger scout Mel Didier had provided a report on Eckersley which claimed that with a 3–2 count against a left-handed hitter, one could be absolutely certain that Eckersley would throw a backdoor slider.Gibson said that when the count reached 3–2, he stepped out of the batter's box and, in his mind, could hear Didier's voice, with its distinctive Southern drawl, reiterating that same piece of advice. With that thought in mind, Gibson stepped back into the batter's box; and thus when Eckersley did in fact throw a backdoor slider, it was exactly the pitch Gibson was expecting. Swinging almost entirely with his upper body, Gibson then hit the pitch over the right-field fence. He limped around the bases and pumped his fist as his teammates stormed the field. The Dodgers won the game, 5–4.

>>77432519
He sounds like a sissy.

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>>77432464

Someone want the explain to me how the National League is considered real baseball when there is very little parity and competitiveness as compared to the American League? One-third of the teams(5/15) in the AL are double digits in terms of GB. As for the NL, three-fifths of the teams are double digit GB. Of those double digit GB teams, there is 1 team in the AL over 20 GB(surprisingly NOT the White Sox), in the NL 3 of the 9 are more than 20 GB and one of those is actually more than 30 GB.

>>77432624
>having the pitcher play the whole game
vs
>having 2 guys play half the game
Gee, sure is hard to figure out aint it?

>>77432624
Do you have any evidence that the NL has always had more double digit GB teams?

Or are you basing your opinion of what constitutes "real baseball" on about half of one season?

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>>77432588

>>77432631
>>77432588

I didn't know the Dodgers' script was so iconic that it was emulated by multiple other teams (besides the Royals, which I knew about).

Are there any other MLB teams that had their look emulated?

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>>77432639
This is one of a bunch of different soft drinks from a Japanese company that is in no way affiliated with the Mets.

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>>77432624
>Judging parity strictly on GB and not the circumstances as to why particular ball clubs are in decline or slumping.
The NL has more parity than the Baby League because for the longest time the NL Central was up for grabs until the Cubs unfucked themselves, the NL West is the black and blue division of the year with the Rockies and Dbacks doing well above expectations and the only division where everything is expected is the East because it's a dumpster fire outside of the NEETs.

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>>77432639

>>77432588
Everybody wants the D

What are you, some kind of authority on the matter?

Craig Biggio does not deserve to be in the hall of fame. Nostalgia goggles are lying to you.

>Chris Sale, Andrew Miller, Craig Kimbrel, and Cody Allen all choke in the same game

amazing

Biggio was a sissy.

>>77432804
And Addison Reed

>>77432804
>arcade league

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>May be closer than they appear

>>77433003
Hey girlie how u doin

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How does it make Dodger fans feel that the Rockies will win the NL West

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>>77433045
birds are not that important

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>>77433039

>>77433054
>biggest chokers in the playoffs
Dodgers
>most missed opportunities in the history of baseball
Dodgers
>2 TRILLION dollars spent with nothing to show for it
Dodgers
>the literal Dan Marino of baseball
Kershaw
>the worst human being to ever play baseball
Utley
>the most over performing player in the entire history of the world
Wood (hehe playoffs will make him sit down and be humble)

Sorry loser but this peak you reach will be the most disappointing playoff choke yet

>angels with trout
33-35
>angels without trout
19-20

WAR is literally a fake stat lmao

>>77433158
WARbabbys will defend this.

>Jon Lester got his 2,000th career strikeout. He also hit a home run.
>That was one of five homers in the game for the Cubs, including two by Anthony Rizzo.
>The Cubs scored 16 runs in total, 7 of them in the 6th inning, in which they sent 12 batters to the plate.
>Kyle Schwarber pinch hit and walked … and then got a single later that same inning, still as a pinch hitter.
>Mike Montgomery got a save in a 12-run game.
>All this against a team with a better record than them.
Who is going to stop the Cubs from going back to back?

another successful Dodger general, I love it
kiss to the haters

>>77433471
Finally a memorable post in this thread!

>>77433359
The odd year. Cubs are going to be the next even year meme.

>>77433527
So the Cubs are highlander and because they slayed the Giants in an even year, they took the power of memes onto themsevles?

>>77433580
Yes

>>77432268
Do you go to CU Boulder? P-please be my friend, I don't fit in here.

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>>77432452
What the fuck did you just say about my hometown, you little bitch?

No way in Magic Johnson's aids infested anus is someone from LA, commiefornia attempting to have a laugh on chi-raqistania. How dare you. So what our niggers kill each other? So do LA niggers, except ours are still doing it because peace treaties are for france and gay ass bloods and crips, we dont play that shit in illinois, you metrosexual angelino.

Furthermore go white sox.

>you now remember magic aids and the gay ass lakers going down 4-1 in the 91 finals.
>you now remember the glorious 05 sox taking out the gayngels 4-1 in the infamous a.j. 'dropped 3rd strike' series.

Nobody likes l.a. or its lame fans and for good reason, and one more thing i bet that faggay from /nba/ posting the bananas here is a lakers fan, no bulls fan would ever do that.

>>77435016
>Furthermore go white sox.

Legitimate home run leaders:

1. Giancarlo Stanton
2. Mike Moustakas
3. Jay Bruce
4. Justin Smoak
5. Logan Morrison

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>>77435217

>>77433054
Why did you even respond man? Dodgers are so good right now that I can't take the post serious to even give a shit about his shitpost.

Don't think Rockies will compete with Dodgers until they graduate Brendan Rodgers. He'll be a great bat added to the lineup making them slightly better.

>>77435016
Dude this is 2017 man. The mexicans already kicked out the blacks from LA.

Can someone explain to me why statcast called Gallo's 510 foot home run into an area no one has ever hit it before 456 feet? Is it rigged so casuals still think Judge?

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>>77435472
Ive only been to gayngeles once, i was 18 and i fucking hated it, goddamn e-ways are 9 lanes wide each way and there is always traffic, until like 11pm wtf? Chicago has bad traffic, but at least our shit clears up after 7 or 8pm.

I have a few friends from la and they didnt say anything about niggers being gone. I thought it had the same % of nig nogs as chitown like 30%?

Another thing i hated about l.a. all the dirty asians. Rude ass fish heads, used to use em as sandbags; stack em 5 feet high.

Fucking click clack ding dong and charlie chan were walking around like they owned the place. At least in chi they stayed in chinatown.

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>>77435600
>>77435016
Go back to being banned BAJP

>>77433050
You haven't heard?

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>>77435622
Bajp? I dont know who that is but it aint me. Im a semi-reg in this shitposting circlejerk we call /mlb/ general so im not enaged in trip drama, since you know tripfags are cancer anyway.

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This is the worst "good" team by far, fucking awful. Assuming >we get to the postseason >we'll get swept in the DS/lose the WCG.

Good job though Red Sox, what a game.

>>77432907
Some of us have teams that play in a competitive league where outs aren't just given away for free

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The cusb are elite

>>77435656
>claims he doesn't know who bajp is but posts #12 anyways

>>77435016
Post of the year, desu.

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>>77435661

That catch in right was juan uribe like, no?

https://youtu.be/9ZNLVfpUus0

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>>77435706
This tbqhfamalamadingdong
>>77435661
Naw, they'll make it to the ALCS for sure. The AL is weak right now.

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>>77435711
I remember a poster with an aj trip, was that him? Why did he get banned? I remember him posting around the world series last year and around spring training.

>>77435769
severe /pol/ bs like what you just posted
>>77435600

>>77435821

Indeed, well thats life sometimes. I was merely defending the honour of my fair city. I wouldve not responded to the b8, but it was a l.a. fag so i couldnt resist.

>>77435743
>>77435706
So if the Cubs win it all again this year do they become villains?

Would you guys be willing to endure lifelong Cubs fans another year if it meant knocking out the Dodgers again?

>>77435892
God yes
>>77435871
Yes.

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>>77435892
I would say no but thats only because I'm a sox fan who would have to endure it 1000x more than the rest of fans

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>>77435846

>>77435892
>>77435892
Yup, from wsox fan, as long as they lose in the eries to whoever is not the playoff team(s) from the central or the ragsox or yaks.

>>77432246
What would /mlb/ trade to have a franchise like the Dodgers, who even in rebuilding years can contend to win it all?

Not gonna lie, former Dodgers fan here living in the UK. It'll be hilarious watching them crash and burn in the playoffs. But in all seriousness we can't let these guys break the all-time wins record.

Stop using fucking milquetoast, just because you learned a word doesn't mean you have to use it and ONLY it

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So how many chips are the pale hose going to win in the 2020s? I say they get to the eries in '19 and win 3 total in the decacade.
>mfw dynasty confirmed, like should have been after 2005 had we not traded aaron rowand and let crede walk

>>77436042
The Dodgers still exist, y'know?

>>77436058
>>77436058
So rematch of the 59' eries? This time the good guys come out on top.

>>77436042
Isn't putting a sux hat on a cat count as animal abuse?

>>77436117
Not mine, mine are>>77435433

If you were to try putting a dodges hat on a cat it would immediately get feline aids and unlike magic johnson the cat would go the way of eazy-e, gimme that gimme that, that nut!

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I cant believe I'm saying this after last year but

we gotta extend Smoak. I want his country boy dingers until he retires.

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>Team is absolute garbage
>FO refused to sell at the deadline

>>77436233

Tiggrs?

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>>77436233
We know this feel last season
luckily he got it together and sold in the off-season and never stopped selling

>>77436233
Must suck being an O's fan

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>>77436264

jints

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>MARINERS!
hope
>"we"
can sweep the rags today

>>77436615
>Miranda
50-50 shot at that desu

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>>77435734
God damn that was immaculate, and right after the Ción bomb. Ajax has been pretty clutch all year, especially since coming back from the DL. Antonetti is on a roll picking up discount vets that produce. I hope in a year I can look back at that game and just appreciate it for being what it was despite the loss.

>>77436615
Believe in it man. Mariners have a good chance to do it if the royals continue to fall and tampa also struggles

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>>77436650

>>77435871
depends

if they win it by defeating the nats, doyers and yaks, one has no choice but to consider them heroes

>>77436708
Royals will be harder to catch than Rays.

>>77435871
They were always villains.

>>77436794
The Nats are too irrelevant to qualify in this scenario.

Does anyone have a Rotowire pass and can screenshot the Top 400 Fantasy prospects?

https://www.rotowire.com/baseball/topminors.htm

>>77436891
Which is to say both miss the playoffs.

>>77436891
Royals have one good pitcher. That's the only thing that is holding them back from a division win.

>>77436914
They have 3, Vargas, Duffy, and now Cahill.

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What did Amed Rosario mean by this?

>>77437029
>Bustmed
>Bustcada
With the farm system Jews, you lose.

>>77437029
Its his first game. He was tense as fuck I assume and robles was sucking cock

>>77437029
He meant that it was his first time in the bigs and will show inexperience and make mistakes.

>>77437052
>Bustacada
>Bustmed


You seriously will call players who just made their debuts a bust?

>>77437069
>Its his first game
Good goy, let players get negative metrics and have a .200 OBP for the first year of their career. That will totally convince us!

>>77437075
>>77437069
>mest fans

>>77437091
But Bustcada is a bust and Bustmed is already on that trajectory. It's called art. The Mets have copied >our lead in terms of fielding failed but much hyped prospects.

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>this lineup

>>77437112
That's a contender right there, boys.

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>>77437107
>bustcada is a bust

>>77437095
Ah yes, let's assume ones entire career based on one game. Not like there's always room to improve and actually become better

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>>77437069
>>77437075
>m-muh first game nerves! He's a-actually Honus Wagner reincarnated!

Are White Sox fans the dumbest when it comes to player development? Mike Trout was horrible in 2011, look where he is now?

>>77437112
>gifting the leafs a free win
Why is this allowed?

>>77437144
>hitting .100 right now
>lifetime batting average under .200
>it's been 2 years of this shit already
You tell me how that's not a bust.

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>>77437151
Only the dumb ones. I'm pulling for many of our prospects.

>reylo milb pitcher of the month
>jake peter and eloy coplayers of the month
>robert back and raking

people overreacting to Moncada are dumb. He's 22 and its not even his first month yet. come on jeez. Save the dour for fags who deserve it like shields and pelfrey and holland and most if not all the bullpen

>>77437150
fucking kill yourself immediately

>Yankees game is delayed
wew

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Meanwhile, in the land of actually talented rookies

>>77437201
>Mest fans being this butthurt that their farm is a joke

Ichiro Suzuki is the greatest pure hitter of all time.

>>77437205
Can every fucking general not always be about the Dodgers?

>>77437212
What team do you like?

What would you trade for you team to be as consistent as the Dodgers?

>>77437228
see
>>77437205
A team with an actual farm, and actual successes, rather than error prone """""defensive wizards""""" and a graveyard of a pitching staff

>>77437221
>a slap hitter who can't hit anything out is considered a pure hitter
We already went through this, but I think I need to tell you again that he's not nearly good enough to be considered a pure hitter, let alone, a notable player. Chase Utley accomplished more. That's a pure hitter.

>>77437244
Kill yourself DG

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Reminder that Tony Gwynn is the All-Time leader in PBA, or Pure Batting Average

>>77437269
>It's the DG I swears! He's been haunting me for years!
lmaoing @ ur life right now

>>77437244
And you will crumble because swanson has turned out to be a fucking bust as well.

>>77437274
But how many career home runs does he have? 135 isn't nearly enough to be considered pure. A pure hitter also hits for power, and at least 375 home runs should be the bench mark combined with an average over .275

>>77437264
If Chase Utley accomplished more as a pure hitter, then why does he not have more hits? Why is his batting average 50 points lower and K% 5 percent higher?

Facts are indeed facts, and you seem wont to ignore them.

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Reminder that Tony Gwynn is also the All-Time Leader in PwRC+ and PwOBA.

>>77436894
>t. NLC 'rival', Gnat or Doyler fag.

>>77437298
>A pure hitter also hits for power

Incorrect, a pure hitter hits the most hits.

>>77437309
>conditions I deem fair
>he doesn't watch players and bases his shit of meme stats
And you wonder why people laugh at you here.

>>77437205
>actually talented rookies
you misspelled "designer performance enhanced drugs"

>>77437325
Since when does that mean that, you fucking child?

>>77437298
a well rounded hitter hits both for power and average

a pure hitter just gets hits

>>77437274
>>77437221
Those arent Judge

>>77437328
>conditions I deem fair

Yes, the conditions that determine a pure hitter are the ones I deem fair in determining who is the best pure hitter. And no, calling stats meme stats doesn't make them invalid. Batting average and K% are the ones that determine the best pure hitter! If you think "watching players" gives you any meaningful insight, never mind more meaningful insight then statistics, then I don't think this semen slurping sport is for you. You should probably go watch the yuropoor foot pussies.

And you wonder why people laugh at you here. Filtered!

>>77437346
Everyone knows that a pure hitter is someone who can get the most hits. Hence, "pure" hitter, as opposed to a power hitter or a high on-base guy.

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>>77437309
Why is it that between the years of 2005 and 2014, there isn't a single player more valuable than Chase Utley?

Undisputed Best Pure Hitters of All Time

1. Stan Musial
2. Hank Aaron
3. Ted Williams
4. Cal Ripken, Jr.
5. Alex Rodriguez

>>77437320
>big money team famous for being eternal crybabies and having a fanbase of tourists and casual trust fund babies that cheated their way out of the LCS and then acted like complete shitheads when they actually won, despite needing to go to extra innings against the most injured team in WS history, aren't bad guys

>>77437408
I'm disputing this. All of those players either played before Tony Gwynn was born, and thus played in an era where offense was easier, or aren't as good at getting hits as Tony Gwynn was.

>>77437401
Chase Utley added value by hitting for power, walking, and plus plus baserunning and defense. Ichiro added value by being the best pure hitter of all time.

>>77437435
Then read a book, this is baseball, not le current year.

>>77437443
Which means Utley did more to his resume than that insect-like gook did. You lose yet again.

>>77437408
1. Ichiro Suzuki
2. Tony Gwynn
3. Wade Boggs
4. Rod Carew
5. Roberto Clemente

>>77437473
Chase Utley was perhaps a better player. But Ichiro is a much better pure hitter, and the best pure hitter of all time.

>>77437455
Right, so Babe Ruth, despite never seeing a slider, circle change, cutter, splitter, sinker, slurve, knuckle curve, or a pitch faster than 92 miles per hour would put up the exact same numbers today as he was when it was acceptable to never go to a gym, drink beer during games, and beat up crippled fans for calling you a negro?

>>77437443
>ichiro internet defense force chink is at it again

twenty second in all time hits

nip league hits don't count

you're a faggot

>>77437521
Nip league hits do count, it is pro baseball. He has the most hits in pro baseball.

>>77437521
Fuckin this.
>>77437506
The Babe still dominated the league when there were equally great pitchers in the dead ball era.
>>77437498
LMAO this is your list? My list kicks the living shit out of yours in terms of metrics. My God you're fucking thick as pig shit.

>>77437433
>big money team
>not even in the top 5
>Beat two teams in the playoffs that had a larger payroll than them.
>Making excuses for the Injun who couldn't put the series away after being up 3-1
Cubs are clearly the heroes, you're just a bad guy butthurt that justice prevailed and what to claim everyone's a baddie.

>>77437542
You mean the league where they use different baseballs, different field dimensions, and different pitching regimen? This is Conditions I Deem Fair at its finest, IIDF gook. Also, where the fuck is Ichiro's supposed power in that league, OH RIGHT, ITS NONEXISTENT, LMAO

>>77437552
>Equally great
>Never threw sliders
>Never threw anywhere close to hard
Walter Johnson, the hardest throwing pitcher of the era, and the consensus hardest throwing pitcher until the 1960s threw 91 when his velocity was recorded

>>77437521
This desu, he's overrated.

>>77437584
>conditions I deem fair

@77437592
>The way baseball was at the time are only conditions I deem fair

>>77437521
Also, Ichiro ain't making the Hall at all. If you unironically believe this, you're a weeb who should be gassed. The BBWAA doesn't like slap hitters like this at all. Just look at the fuckin inductees as of late.

>>77437599
Because that's what came with the game. Now are you finished yet, faggot?

>>77437552
If you had ever "read a book" or if you knew anything about "metrics" you would know that the average level of competition is constantly increasing year after year as statistical breakthroughs are made, higher economic incentive are awarded, and player and field conditioning is advanced. To include players from before 1970 or so is just asinine, not to mention some of the batters you included are far from being pure hitters, like A-Rod and Hank Aaron, who did not even run high batting averages.

>>77437583
You mean like in the MLB, where baseballs are being juiced, every field has different dimensions, and every pitcher has a unique arsenal. This is Conditions I Deem Fair at its finest, anti-statistical redditor. Power doesn't matter in determining the best hitter, he has no "supposed power," he was the best hitter because he was able to turn at bats into hits better than anyone.

>>77437542

Where do we draw the fine line on "pro"? The minor leagues are a professional league. If we count that, then Pete Rose has another 300 hits to his resumé.

Then we can pull out Arizona Winter Leagues, Cape Cod Leagues, Olympic hits, Spring Training hits, etc. etc. The esteem you give to the NPB (by implying it is the only other professional baseball league) is an infantile and ethnocentric value judgment. The distortion you are using to put Ichiro on top is so blatant and irrelevant outside the minds of Japanese nationalists and maybe a handful of Mariners blowhards.

>>77437630
Bottom line is they rape all of those meme slap hitters in terms of WAR. Which is enough to decide who we can classify as an effective player and who is not. Welcome to baseball right now. And besides, chicks dig the long ball and have always dug the long ball. This is baseball, not milquetoast boreball like you seem to want.

>Ichiro ain't making the hall
There are six players in the 3000 hit club who are not already enshrined in Cooperstown. Two players are still Active(Ichiro Suzuki, Adrian Beltre), two are not yet eligible (Derek Jeter, Alex Rodriguez), One is banned from baseball (Pete Rose), and two have their careers clouded with the PED scandal (Rafael Palmeiro, Alex Rodriguez). Only three of these players have a chance of NOT getting their plaque, and that's from scandal. Suzuki, Beltre, and Jeter will all be enshrined in Cooperstown as some of Baseball's greatest players and brightest stars to ever shine on the sport.

>>77437645
The NPB is worse than the Cape Cod League, lmao.

>Be Pete Rose
>One of the all time greatest hitters
>Carry two teams to a Series win
>Get banned from baseball over betting accusations
>Watch the hall induct wife beating drug users and roid ragers
>Decades later fans finally warming up to how mistreated I've been
>Finally starting to get recognized for being one of the GOATS
>MLB not done fucking me over
>"B-b-but he slept with a 15 year old in the 1970s!"
>Wall of Fame Ceremony cancelled
>Public turns again

Do you think he'll just kill himself at this point lads?

>>77437579
They were exactly number 5 last year, you casual fuck, and Chicago is the third biggest market in the US. Also the Nationals had the 14th biggest payroll. And no one has ever won a World Series with two starting pitchers, the Cubs should have swept. How did they manage to get through the Dodgers and the Indians after dropping 3 games? Hm.

>>77437669
>Jeter

re2pects in your direction

>>77437669
>Suzuki
Nope, lacks the WAR to get in. MAJOR LEAGUE hits are all that matters and he's not even 50th on the all time list.
>Beltre
Borderline
>Rose
Should and will get in at some point later on
>Jeter
First ballot
>Rodriguez
First ballot

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>When FactsAreFacts is blatantly shitposting and all you faggots are giving him >>'s so he can validate his shitposting

>people are still defending Ichishit's meme league hit count as if he is the best
LMAO weebs and Shitattle faggots should unironically be rangebanned here. Everyone here agrees with me.

>>77437645
The minor leagues are an amateur development league. They're pro in name only because players get paid, but the goal is not winning games in the minor leagues, it's developing players. Thus the statistics should only be used for player development and projections. The NPB is a professional league, just as competitive as any other in the world. It may not have all the best players but that doesn't make it less professional or less competitive.

>>77437661
Bottom line is WAR is an overall value contribution statistic, which incorporates defense, baserunning, position, and overall offense in determining player value, and thus does not determine who the best pure hitter is. The best statistics for determining that would be avg and K%. Welcome to baseball right now. And besides, chicks dig sexy Japanese men and have always dug sexy Japanese men. This is baseballl, not milquetoast boreball like you seem to want.

>>77437144
Bustcada nearly killed one of his own teammates the other day lmao

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>the Brew Crew has a $79,534,507 payroll and they're going to KEK the shit out of the pisscups by taking the division and eliminating them from a wild card slot

Is this America's team?

>>77437669
Suzuki and Beltre are obvious first ballot hall of famers. Jeter will make it in but not in as dominating a fashion.

>>77437735
>implying I am shitposting
lmao, nope. I'm simply stating facts that people here universally agree with except for milquetoast pussy cucks who hate the long ball and want boreball to be relevant so that no one can post here.

>>77437735
It amazes me how easy 4chan is to troll.

>>77437743
>The minor leagues are an amateur [...] league.
You're wrong.

Lots of Nips and Gooks come to the MLB and just shit the bed in the face of tougher competition. Nomo, Matsuzaka, literally every Korean player, etc.

Ichiro has been consistently one of the best hitters both in Japan and the MLB. He's easily first ballot.

>>77437787
It's funny how when you cut out words it changes the meaning of a sentence. The minor leagues are an amateur development league. They're a pro league in name only because players get payed, but the real goal of the leagues is not to make money (by winning games). In MLB and NPB, the goal is only to win games.

>>77437781
As long as newfags keep flocking to 4chan and taking the bait, it'll never stop

>>77437743
>THIS amount of damage control
Sorry, but you already got BTFO by me and the rest of /mlb/ here so keep pretending your opinion matters. I've already explained to you that WAR accounts into what classifies a Hall of Fame position. Besides, who wants a fuckin insect-like gook in the Hall other than milquetoast pussy faggots and gooks?
>>77437767
Jeter will be the first 100% vote, Ichishit won't make it until his 10th year on the ballot at least, Beltre could make it within 5. Then again, let's be real here, Ichishit and Beltre didn't change the game for the better, Jeter and A-Rod have. And I'm not even a Yankee fan saying this.

>>77437812
It isn't just newfags though. Unless there are so many newfags in the general that they overrun it when they're trolled by Dodgers """fans"""

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@77437770
>I'm simply stating facts
>>77437702
>MAJOR LEAGUE hits are all that matters and (Suzuki's) not even 50th on the all time list.
>Pic shows he's tied for 22nd most hits in the history of Major League Baseball

Stating facts, eh?

>>77437811
You're wrong though. The MAJOR LEAGUES are all that matters. Why do you think Cooperstown is called The National Baseball Hall of Fame? Because its inductees are the best who have done the most to major league baseball nowadays, not your Mickey Mouse shit leagues.

>>77437839
Are you fucking illiterate? Do infield singles count as hits? It never counted back then, those were fielding errors back then.

>>77437823
I got BTFO by no one, least of all you.

>I've already explained to you that WAR accounts into what classifies a Hall of Fame position

I've already explained to you that WAR does not determine the best pure hitter, which is what we would be arguing about if you had any concept of focus or staying on topic. Not that HOF voters look at WAR. Ichiro and Beltre are obvious first ballot HOFers and you're honestly delusional if you think otherwise.

I really thought you'd be better at shitposting but you're very disappointing. No regrets filtering you.

>>77437839
REEEEEEKT

>>77437687
They dropped to 8th this year, so it's proof they aren't assuming the power of money will carry them to victory like the Doylers, so your payroll angle is moot.

Cubs didn't face the NEETs in the playoffs so it just shows your desperation.

As for your claim it should have been an easy 11-0, the path of the hero is one filled with trials and adversity. The Cubs came back in big games, not only against the Injuins but from 3 runs down in the 9th inning of game 4 against the Gnats to win their NLDS. Villains don't come from behind unless they resort to cruel tricker, they conquer in decisive fashion.

>>77437839
>tied with Craig Biggio

THE MEMES

>>77437883
WAR combines all the tools needed to determine what a pure hitter as a ballplayer is, you're the delusional one and I've told you this at least 10 times now. Blocked. Don't reply to me again, faggot. You lost this argument and you know it.

Ichiro Suzuki is by far the fastest player to 3000 hits. He'll be a first ballot Hall of Famer (Twice, assuming Japan has a Baseball hall of fame) and no amount of butthurt and lies will change this

77437879
Woah, where'd those goalposts go?

>>77437896
lmao, as much as the Cubs won the World Series fair, let's be real here, the Indians lacked the pitching to mow them down. Doesn't help that the average Indian fan can't argue this effectively without resorting to conditions I deem fair and hurt feelings whereas facts are put right in front of their faces and all they do is whine and cry about it.

>>77437851
NPB is as competitive as MLB. "Major leagues" means nothing, that's just the name of the MLB. There's a minor league system in Japan too, if you weren't so low-information you would know that.

Ichiro has the most hits in all of pro ball. It's fun how much squirming jealous cucks will do to deny that he is in fact the greatest pure hitter of all time.

>>77437935
Oh, so defense, baserunning, and position help determine what a pure hitter is? I've now realized you are too stupid to even shitpost properly. You are boring, return to Reddit where your low information retardation might pass as trolling.

>>77437938
I know for sure if /mlb/ ran the community no one would even say yes. Then again, if I ran that council, I'd pick the brightest baseball minds here. And milquetoast Seattle cucks don't count, let alone, Baby League and DH obsessed cucks.

I'm fucking done with you faggots, holy shit. How can you fags not see when someone is trolling?

>some rando arguing that ichiro won't make the hall of fame

like lol

>>77437970
>National Baseball Hall of Fame includes Japan leagues
Fucking wew, you lost. Good bye.

>>77438001
Fucking wew, I never said that. Good bye.

>>77437991
I'm not trolling though. I'm serious. But go on and go away. You're too milquetoast for this general as it is.

>>77437984
you're batting like .500 for use of the word 'milquetoast' in your posts would you please stop

>>77437994
How am I a "rando" when I represent the majority of the baseball fandom? No one here except a few milquetoast faggots think that slanty eyed insect will make it into the Hall.

>>77438020
>milquetoast
If you study a little more for the vocab portion of your SAT coming up, you wouldn't have to keep posting that word!

>>77438031
t. Milquetoast
Let me guess, you're a Giants, Mariners, or Mets fan, right? We already told you to fuck off this general. Do we need to add more fanbases to the Milquetoast Hit List?

>>77437938

he was actually the 14th fastest. It took him 2,452 games to do so.

1. Ty Cobb (2,135 games)
2. Nap Lajoie (2,237 games)
3. Tony Gwynn (2,284 games)
4. Stan Musial (2,301 games)
5. Paul Waner (2,315 games)
6. Honus Wagner (2,334 games)
7. Tris Speaker (2,344 games)
8. Derek Jeter (2,362 games)
9. Pete Rose (2,370 games)
10. Paul Molitor (2,411 games)
11. Rod Carew (2,416 games)
12. Wade Boggs (2,430 games)
13. Roberto Clemente (2,432 games)
14. Ichiro Suzuki (2,452 games)

>>77438038
genuine question, what is it with you and these little phrases you come up with such as "conditions i deem fair" or "milquetoast"

Not gonna lie, former Dodgers fan here. It'll be hilarious watching them crash and burn in the postseason again. But in all seriousness we can't let these guys break the all time wins record.

>>77438079
Right, my mistake. I looked at active years in baseball and ignored the fact that until the early 1960's, seasons were 154 games.

>>77438081
They prove that I'm advanced in terms of discourse above your primitive little shit ass. Don't you have a dumpster fire team to croon about though?

Sick of all these milktoast "fans" in my thread unable to handle the bantz 2bh

>>77437150
>h-he didn't hit a ball outside of the zone
>b-bust!

>>77438097

even if you ignored that Gwynn, Jeter, Rose, Molitor, and Boggs would still have been on top

>sorry I lied guys
all you have to say

DG has reached next level trolling. I for one, am impressed with what he's pulled off.

>>77437150
That was a ball. Good plate discipline. Robot umps when?

>>77437963
They almost bullshited their way to a world series victory with great use of their bullpen. The Cubs were able to expose the fact they had zero depth and ground them down. The fact that the Indians won the AL pennant doing that says more about how shitty the AL is.

►►77438148
>You can only be 100% right, or 100% lying. There is no way to be simply wrong

>>77438153
>implying it's hard to troll /mlb/

>>77438168

a statement about recorded statistical data can only be true or false

what he said was not slightly true or slightly false, it was just false.

>putting milk on your toast
disgusting

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Aaron Judge will rebound, and be the MVP for the next 3 seasons. In 2019, he'll be the WS MVP after he hits a walk-off grandslam off of Kershaw. Cap this

>padres went 14-10 in July
are they, dare I say it, elite?

►►77438200
and it was implied that the wrongfulness was malicious, and there's no other way around it

>>77438167
>the Indians were "ground down"
>game 7 played into extra innings

uhhhhhh

>>77438238
>Couldn't win the game after they clearly had momentum.
>Ignores the fact that they were up 3 games to 1.

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>>77438207
Nobody sane denies that Michael Conforto is a more talented and valuable player than Aaron Judge, and will have 10x the career that Judge has, correct?

>>77438221
>lies are truth
>truth is lies
>up is down
>war is peace
>2 + 2 = 5

kys with this babby morality

►►77438272
>Manslaughter is Muder
Oh wait, those are two different things even though the end result is a dead person being killed by another, living person

>>77438221

are you implying that lies aren't malicious? isn't rephrasing the word "lie" into "wrongfulness" a sort of distortion and a lie in and of itself?

>>77438255
Conforto will degrade substantially in the next 3 years.

>>77438254
>clearly had momentum.
>ignores the rain delay

Home run derby in Chicago thread where?

>>77438296
Conforto has the best lefty swing in baseball and plate discipline on par with Joey Votto. We are only witnessing his floor right now, his ceiling is infinite.

>>77438207

E X P O S E D
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P
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S
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>>77435523
bringing the white man down

>>77438309
>Can't maintain momentum through a 17 minute delay
>The shanty town of leaveland.

>>77435991
>milquetoast
never knew this word but now i'll be using it
thanks friend

>>77435523
>510

>Milquetoast
DG finally learned a word in English that's more than 10 letters long. Impressive.

>>77437184
>soxman grinder
you think he's gay?

>>77437811
You know why I did it? Because

>The minor leagues are [a] development league.
is true.
>The minor leagues are an amateur [...] league.
is false.

Daily reminder that Ben Zobrist is one of the best players in the history of baseball. Clutch hitting in the playoffs/world series is better than a .400 season

>>77437408
>adding the steroid user at number 5

thats how I know this is a meme

>>77438254

since 1990, NL teams have been swept in the World Series five times (98, 99, 04, 05, 07) and AL teams have been swept once (12).

The interleague record is at 2,678 to 2,385 (AL winning) up to the year 2016. This year the the AL is winning.

What happened to David Price?

>>77438439
>The minor leagues are an amateur development league.

Is true

>>77438451
>41.2 career WAR

Won't even make the HOF

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@77438154
@77438137
Here's the SNY call
>And Rosario takes strike three called! A little overpatience there, fastball on the outside corner gives Hoffman his 5th strikeout of the night.
There seems to be no debate there on whether or not that was a strike. Let's listen in on WOR, the radio station that carried the game in NYC
>The set from Hoffman, now the 3-2 pitch taken- strike three called! Fastball on the outside corner. So Rosario is now 0-3 however the Mets add to their lead.
Hmm, seems to be no debate there? Let's try the ATT RM call from the Colorado TV feed
>3-2, See ya later. Great pitch by Hoffman, he did a really nice job on his 101st pitch to strike out Rosario.
Weird, another feed, another lack of questioning the call. Let's try the Colorado radio feed, KOA
>3-2 pitch, Strike 3 called! Fastball at the knees for a strikeout for Jeff Hoffman.
Yet another feed where nobody debated. Maybe Rosario disagreed, let's look at the clip again, this time in slow motion.

Wait a minute, he seems to have acknowledged that it was a strike, and quickly headed for his dugout without once debating the called strike three. Well, even though everything points to it being a strike 3, and a good call by the umpire, let's see how various strikezone twitters reacted
>https://twitter.com/MetsUmp
Weird, there's no reference to that pitch on here, let's try the Rockies
>https://twitter.com/rockiesump
Hmm, also no reference. How about the general MLB
>https://twitter.com/majorleagueump
Also no reference. Just to be safe let's search general twitter
>https://twitter.com/search?vertical=default&q=Rosario%20strike&src=typd&lang=en
Odd. nothing of the sort there either.

>>77438511
tl;dr

>>77437896
Figures that a Shitcongoan can't read, the point wasn't that the Cubs will win or lose, it's that they're a big money team. All big markets teams are bad guys by default.

>>77438511
holy autism

How do we divide the teams into markets?

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>>77438523
>>77438532
t. brainlet redditors

>>77438547
>everyone who hates on me is Reddit
holy autism

>>77438558
>Everyone who has a triple digit IQ is autistic
t. Brainlet

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>>77438511
>wasting all this time when you could just post the pitch fx
Yep, it's autism

>>77438526
>moving dem goalposts

►►77438581
>I need everything in life boiled down for the lowest common denominator
Yep, brainlet

>>77438567
>>77438597
holy fuckin autism

When did /mlb/ get so bad?

>>77438511
quit it jerk

>>77438541

The ALPHA division
New York Yankees
Boston Red Sox
Chicago Cubs
St. Louis Cardinals
LA Dodgers

The bitchboi division
Tampa Rays
Milwaukee Brewers
San Diego Padres
Oakland Athletics
Cincinnati Reds

>ofc this is absurd and low payroll teams like the Diamondbacks and Astros can and do crush bullshit clubs like the Giants and Rangers.
>also half of the Yankees and Sox payrolls go to useless faggots like Price, Tanaka, Sandoval, and Ellsbury

parity is real

►►77438611
holy fuck brain degradation. When did mest fans get so retarded? Nice Neogaf spacing, by the way
►►77438614
Oh look, a Mest brainlet put on the Rockies Fan name to cover his tracks

>>77438624
>cubs

>>77438630
lmao jesus christ dude go outside for a little bit

>>77438633

large payroll

Why does National League "Baseball" result in so many brainlets?

>>77438624
>sox
>cubs
>dodgers
lol you actually have to dominate for a long time to be Alpha

>a's
>reds
One of them has more championships than most teams and the other is the only mlb team with a perfect season :^)

>>77438655
It's just LA and David Bowie knows all.

>>77438683

evaluated entirely on payroll and market size

it didn't have any real depth and I acknowledged that if you could fucking read

:^)

>>77438476
You're actually retarded

>>77438558
>using autist as an insult
Do you even know where you are? We're all autists here.

>>77438714
Ok autist

>>77438596
>being dis illiterate

>>77438683
Red Sox have 8 WS titles, bandwagon

>>77438474

he's an asshole and always has been?

>>77437792
>literally every Korean player
My boy Hyun-Jin Ryu is rocking a career 3.30 ERA in the majors. That's solid.