Heem

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JONNNNNMMMMNNNNN
GIBBBBBEBEEEEEEEEE
TWOOOOOOOOOOO SUUUUCCCCXCCCC

Why don't people in Asian martial arts movies gas?

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DUMB FUCKING SPAMMER

HURR DURR FIGHTS CANCELLED LOOK AT ME I'M SO FUNNY

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i could heem everyone here and twice on sunday

DC gon do it

6th for Schaub is God

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8th for homoerotica

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Success
Under
Challenging
Circumstances

Who else is watching Pro Fight League instead of UFC tonight?

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Heem's boy DC is gonna retire that coke head Jones

>>77364630
>martial arts movies
>movies
Movies.

There's your answer. You don't see movies to observe reality, you see it for fantasy and the impossible.

>>77364659
I unironically thought Rashad was Michael Strahan at first.

Who is gonna win Hobbie Lowler vs Honaldo Cerronach?

Anybody have finished picks?

>>77364693
>>77364630
samefag

>>77364635
You can't cure some diseases

>>77364669
I was gonna get tickets to that until I realized what date it was on. Who the fuck schedules a fight during an ultrahyped event in the dominant league?

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How crazy is that Brendan Schaub was on JRE a couple months ago telling Joe Rogan "For Mayweather-Mcgregor, I want my buddy Joe Rogan to be working for this landmark event to break down the fight." Joe actually replied that he'd like that... but didn't fancy his chances since it's a boxing bout and there's enough big players in that game as it is.

Fast-forward to now, and Mr. Big Brown himself is the official analyst hired by Showtime to cover this seminal event!! What's interesting is how it didn't even occur to Schaub that he's a big enough name now in the fight game to cover this once-in-a-lifetime matchup. He thought he had no chance and he was hoping his mentor, Joe Rogan would be an obvious choice as the MMA pundit.

Well, like it or not Brendan Schaub is quickly climbing the ranks and is clearly a very good businessman to make it to where he is. In all fairness, he is nowhere near Joe Rogan but he'll get there. A hard-working man always does.

Proud of you Schaub. I can see being a Daddy has really amped up your game. Keep it up.

>>77364604
Why is the OP so important to this massive sperg?

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Daily Reeminder that attitude drives action, actions drive results, and resultd drive lifestyle. #quote

>>77364630
You the boxing guy?

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literally who the fuck would pay £500 for this lmao

would be surprised if they've sold 10

>>77364751
Can you IMAGINE if Larry Merchant was the analyst for UFC?

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>>77364725
There exists more than 2 Swedes in this thread.

Now that's 2 people that could beat you up.

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>>77364751
Absolutely based

>>77364756
Its not bro. I dont make early threads nor do I usually make threads

>>77364702
muh dick

>>77364748
Yeah the card runs simultaneously. Sucks because Bas Rutten and Cotoure are on commentary.

>>77364780
i think you'd be surprised

2 bongs and 30 bings till WE ROOOOOOOOOOOLAN

>>77364801
>watching videogames

queer

>>77364780
It's for the real FiteFans™

>>77364762
lmao @ those niggers who made all their money with (((sports))) (((music))) or (((acting))) and now act like CEO's of multi million dollar corporations

>>77364801
Nice grammar fag

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>>77364762
Reem bless lad

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>>77364780

>>77364826
>Bas Rutten
Aw man, he's my favorite commentator.

wanked multiple times to the video of reem wrestling with the female journalist

>>77364845
BTsports2 is going to show this card right?

I'm going to hunt some m3u8s now because i'm 99% sure streams are going to be shit today

>>77364875
is this image real?!?

Post pics

>>77364895
the more belts DJ has, the more his brain powers grow

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>>77364888
Are you the high on stimulants brit who can't stop wanking ?

>>77364875
>tfw to intelligent to be a normal height

>>77364864
More like "Keep your chin tucked"

Do you guys see DC's cardio holding up if the fight goes into the later rounds?

>>77364889

Yeah BTSport2 always shows the prelims/main card

>>77364916
no i only take 200mg modafinil daily

>>77364847
It's just a stream I have on as background noice as I read Vingt Mille Lieues sous les mers by Jules Verne.

>>77364861
Real "tough" men always correct people on their grammer, nice going "though" man.

>>77364888
I'm telling you, you gonna die from overwanking like that Brazilian boy.

>>77364920
he slimmed down, but he was gassy against andy

Swedes in this thread are so fucking gay, god damn.

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>>77364920
Do you see Kenya's population holding up if white people cease to dump welfare on your sloped 70IQ heads?

>>77364630
The same reason they magically intercept each punch with their arm before it hits them. It's all fake and impossible.

>>77364920
I think so, it looks like he has been working on it and after the last fight he would be stupid not to. If he can fight like he did in the first 2 rounds of the first fight all 5 rounds this time he should win, his stamina is my main concern.

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>>77364762
Living the REEM lifestyle

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Michael Dukakis

>>77364635
This is a meme they stole from 420chan

>Jones vs Brock Lesnar

Anyone else think Lesnar would just ragdoll Jones? I mean say what you want but Brock has fucking legit wrestling and is a gorilla

>>77364655
If Yoel Romero took off his shirt in front of you, you'd look at him too. The dude looks like he came straight out of a video game.

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why are there no french lads in

>>77365004
Literally no one else. Just you because youre that clueless about fighting

>>77364751
Only reason is because Rogan doesn't want to work it himself for whatever reason

What else does he have planned for that day? What could be more important than the biggest fight of the century? I know he'd rather watch the fight on his podcast and talk shit with his buddies but why

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Does Woodley know no poo wont ever spend a dime on a PPV or one of his sponsors. They cant even use the loo, for gods sake!

>>77365004
daniel dc my man cormier is a better wrassler than brock my guy

>>77364780
People who like to keep extensive collections of memorabilia

>>77364722
Hobbie

>>77364969
Take your mental illness back to /pol/

>>77365018
Jones you got a fight coming up now is not the time to shitpost

>>77365014
illegal in France

>>77365004
He would. Jones doesn't have the punching power to keep Brock humble. Once Brock got him down, it'd be over. Too much strength difference.

can these fucking fights start already? holy shit

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Ok lets post our screencaps of the night and check em in 12 hours

>Jones by striked to the body
>Maia dominates a boring wrestlefest but gets robbed

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>>77365051
>mental illness
Did you mean facts and statistics?

>>77364751
He's not ready for this.

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>>77364751
I'm pretty sure Schaub was picked because he sounds so fucking dumb that boxing fans could get a good laugh out of him. First off, he's the only one deluded enough to think that Conor can "out awkward" Floyd in to a victory with his "angles", and secondly, he slurs about half of his words. Most respectable fighters and analysts with half a brain know that if they make any prediction about Conor for the sake of MMA, then they'll come across looking extraordinarily foolish when he inevitably loses. Schaub is the court jester, nothing more.

Who is your FAVORITE women's mixed martial artist? No joking around just answer the fucking question sincerely.

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>>77364604
Haha great joke my man made me check. Based.

>>77364969
wtf is ur problem

>>77365004
>>77365058
Anyone who thinks that Jones' TDD is on the same tier as Mark Hunt is a moron. Probably an avid WWE watcher.

Jones gets him out of there inside 2 rounds.

>>77365014
French lad, surrendering for duty

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>>77365073
Seriously just go back you eternal loser

>>77365078
It's a tie between Wanderlei 'Cyborg' Silva and Joanna Kurwa.

Literally the only female fighters with good technique.

>>77365106
fucking brit shitposter with his vpn

post your ideal outcome
>manuwa vs turkish bloke double KO
>lawler dominates cowmeme
>flabby mum lady ends the cyborg train
>maia gets KTFO by a big overhand right
>DC chokes out jones

>>77365106
I don't believe you. I'm 100% convinced everyone who isn't British or American is using a proxy. There's clearly a raging lunatic who uses this thread as his dumping ground, and he uses proxies constantly. I guarantee that when he inevitably gets sent to a proper mental facility to get him the help he desperately needs (and I'm saying this without any malice in my heart), that we will only have American and British posters.

>>77365112
valentina is more technically sound than that roiding monster lol

>>77365014
french are fags, maybe some blacks from their colonies can fight but the whitebois are too cuc ked

>>77365112
Why are you replying to the loser with a scat collection?

>>77365127
Non, non, non mon p'tit Hans

>>77365141
Lithcuck has posted pictures though

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>>77364888
nice trips cuck

What's the best way to defend a double leg take down attempt?

>>77364888
post link

>>77364916
>>77364935
not him but i was also on modafinil.

>>77365134
>Manuwa dominates fight but gets knocked down once, gets robbed by split decision.
>Lawler takes cuckboy's soul.
>Someone dies.
>Woodley gets grapplefucked and cries bitter tears of defeat after Maia takes the submission win.
>I don't really care, desu.

who is your favorite fighter under the age of 25?

>>77365171
a gun

>>77365171
double legging him

>>77365149
I would suplex you from the top of your tallest moutain straight into the amazonian forest Cuzco-boy, and the Earth would blow-up from the impact.

Yes, french people are strong.

>>77365111
>I can't say shit so here's some fat autist wearing a reddit meme shirt
kek

>>77365134
Dc wins a dec
Maia RNC
Cyborg doing what she do
lawler ko cerrone r1
Jimi by KO

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>>77365111
>>77365089
no

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Did daytime heem seem our new queen?

>>77365171
tapping out before any further head trauma is caused

how would GSP deal with Maia?

>>77365171
whip out benis and wait for succ

>>77365171
eye pokes

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>>77365141
You're paranoid me boi

>>77365186
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-paRIf5hWys

>>77365211
lay and pray like always

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>>77365106
I want "le french surrender meme" to die

>>77365206
I want miyuu to sit on my face

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>>77364969
>>>/pol/

>>77365171
best and safest answer: amputate your legs

>>77365204
Woah too masterrace for me my guy

>>77364751
I enjoyed this post.

>>77365234
same

>>77365211

Same way Rory did

>>77365206
MOMMY

unironically had 1 amateur MMA fight

got knocked out and had to get stitches in my head from hitting my head after falling, couldn't properly close my jaw for around 6 months and even now 1-2 years later i still have issues properly closing it on one side lol

>>77365171
push the fucker down so he can't lift you up and smash you.

>>77365253
lol

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>>77365106

>>77365206
disgusting implants, why can't men see beyond this it's pathetic.

>>77365230
It's here to stay, fucking american butthurt.

Why is Carlos Conduit still ranked?

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>>77365134

Lawler/Cerrone and Manuwa/Oezdemir spicy bangers. Don't care who wins, just make it spicy.

Tyron gets choked out and ends up shitting himself.

DC and Jon do webm related.

>>77365253
Should have gone in prepared.

>>77365171
Knee to the face and then stomps to the bollocks

>>77365134
>Manuwa early KO
>Lawler absorbs Cowboy's chin, knees and soul in 3rd round
>American goat successfully sacrificed to Brazilian she-beast
>Maia gets knocked down once but out grapples T-Wood, wins split decision, T-Wood blames it on white supremacy
>DC knocks JBJ down with an uppercut in the clinch, finishes him off with rear naked

>>77365285
He promised he was gonna bring it to Nick, he still has to deliver

Who is your favorite MMA analyst?

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>>77364801
Use Chrome's dark theme, my dude.

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>>77365279

Imagine being this gay.

>>77365014
Cheick here, I barely lurk /heem/ anymore. Sry

>>77365253
lmao pussy

get rekt and suffer brain damage xD

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>>77365290
>DDT work in real life
DUDE !

>>77365283
Indeed, Villepin rustled some jimmies.

Could someone please tell me how many bongs untill it all starts?

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>>77365239
>>77365243
>le redd*t newfags are the majority and we love niggers so get out reee
lmao

>>77365315
literally a japanese man wearing a wig, wtf is wrong with you how desperate are you?

>>77365334
2

>>77365334
2:15 until early prelims

>>77365339
as a /pol/ user myself, i have to say this: you're the reason nobody takes us seriously. stop with that shit, nobody cares here.

>>77365315
wwwowwww

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>>77365253
>walking into the octagon with an already deleted chin

>>77365313
>chrome
don't use a browser that's NSA certified

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>>77365323
And his daughter is hot

>>77365253
your just not alpha enough bro.
No problem though, you still can train at the beta academy with cuck thomas

>>77365340
If wanting to tap that makes me gay call me Harvey milk

i COUld heem ever

>>77365312

>Jack Slack's podcast
>BJJ Scout
>dudes that do Heavy Hands

idc about the rest

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>>77365206
Unberivabru

>>77365359
>us

>>77365339
Still here fatso? I thought I told you to beat it.

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>>77365339
You're embarrassing yourself.

Rizin is after the UFC main card right ?

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That feel when you will fall asleep before the main event and miss all the fun.

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Where is PredictionBro I need to get my picks in before the event starts?

jones woodley lawler cyborg manura

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DC and Woodley are both winning by KO tonight screencap this

>>77365397
yessir

>>77365020
Joe has 2 stand up shows in D.C. that night and can't cancel.

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>>77365279
i always knew there was faggots here

>>77365388
was it autism

>>77365253
Your mistake was being hit instead of hitting the other guy.
Rookie stuff mate.

>>77365369
god damn, quelle pêche

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>>77365375
>Twinkies are the best friends I've ever had

What did Dan(a) White mean by this ?

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<--- gooby

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>>77365421
qtism

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<--- Gooby

>>77365420
Peru be honest, when you cage up your dick and dress up like a girl do you wish you were anime?

>>77365411
her daughter has a set of cannons jesus christ. doesn't look that old either

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>>77364888
REEMED

>>77365429
What is this man's job exactly?

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<--- Tyrone Woodley

>>77365461
Do you not understand what a promoter does?

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>>77365084
Thanks

so i must admit it's been a while since i've been here...

is it normal for /r/MMAStreams to not have a thread up by this time?

please and thanks

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>4 fights on the main card likely to end in knockout

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>>77365484
yeah, es normal

>>77365134
>one of them KOs the other in like 4 seconds
>Woodley KOs Maia in 3rd
>don't really care
>Lawler wins comfortably, but the fight is competitive and fun to watch
>Manuwa wins by dec but the fight is close and they both win at least one round

>>77365171
shove your hips into him as hard as possible and shove his head away and push the insides of his elbows away

>>77365484
>abondoning /sp/ for plebbit
you deserve this tbqh

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>>77365449

>>77365480
He's not doing a unique job that someone else can't do, he's also mentally 12

>>77365456
>ywn enter lola

literally why live?

>>77365500
>shove his head away and push the insides of his elbows away
I worded that poorly.
get his head on the inside, then use your hands to push the elbows away.

>>77365484

Buy fightpass you fucking cuck

>>77365484
>is it normal for /r/MMAStreams to not have a thread up by this time?

It'll be up in the next hour or 2, relax mang

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It has been 14 months since Woodley won the WW title and whitebois are STILL mad.

>>77365502
pretty sure he just wants a stream, mmastreams actually puts them up, /sp/ doesn't

>>77365077
bad post

>>77365456
>>77365411
honestly rather have the mom,

decided to finally subscribe to fight pass so i don't have to watch dodgy streams anymore lads

>>77365484
i've been using computers since the 1980s, i had a 14.4K modem, i've never used that website and i hope everyone who has dies in an aids fire today

>>77365134
Manuwa knocks himself out with an uppercut
Cowboy and Lawler spend 3 rounds trading headkicks and right hands to a draw
Cyborg KO's this can within 13 seconds
Woodley spends three rounds beating the shit out of Maia before getting gassed, wrapped up like a christmas present and choked unconscious
Jones takes DC down and submit's him with an RNC i the 5th round in exactly the same way that AJ got subbed

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>>77365465
>>77365540

>>77365540
no one cares dude

>>77365589
enjoy watching 2 fights on the early prelims of every card that nobody fucking cares about

>>77365498
cheers
>>77365502
i abandoned the internet in general my friend, plsnoh8
>>77365530
angry little chap aren't ya
>>77365532
cheers also
>>77365541
yep
>>77365598
ok bud ;-D

>>77365589
umm sweaty, you know they don't show the PPV live?

>>77365589
Nigger how dumb are you

>>77365623
no i said i paid for fight pass so it means i can watch the main card now
>>77365629
yes they do show PPV live, i've watched it live on dodgy streams before. it's bellator that uses tape delay not the ufc

>>77365589
Dana we know its you

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>>77365619
>>77365620
Just IMAGINE being upset someone is a good fighter for over a year cause of his skin pigmentation lol

What about now? Much easier to digest?

>>77365675
Looks like Drake desu

>>77365484
tfw im a mod there created the thread just for you lad

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>>77365662
wew

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>>77365675

Is that Woodley or Shane Burgos?

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I've got the Rizin goof ready for tonight but who should the 214 goof be?

>>77365675
he looks ayyrab there

>>77365705
low energy dna

>>77365724
and hamdulla for that my friend

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>>77365705
me on the left

>>77365030

The Embedded where he interrupted some random Indian family's wedding pictures to show them all how cool he was for posing with a Bollywood star was cringe af.

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>>77365540
>>77365675
HES GONNA LOSE IT THIS TIME YOU LITTLE NIGLET

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How do these Rizin grand prix work? How can you have two fights in one night?

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>>77365724
arabs are just wypipo that have been mixing with nigger slaves and asiatic conquerors for thousands of years. that's why arabs live in mud huts too.

>>77365774
They did that in pride too

>>77365769
no one cares dude

>>77365774
Glory has 2 fights in one night for tournaments

>>77365774

>How can you have two fights in one night?

By not being a pussy

>>77365793
lmao

i don't like woodley, but he must win today. we can't have a boring backpack as champion because that would be haram!

>>77365774
fight once. then fight again

>>77365793
lol

polturds are scum of the earth lol

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hmm ufc has changed quite drastically since the last card

>>77365802
Casual.

>>77365814

Shut up cuck

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There is L I T E R A L L Y this much time left.

>>77365226
How wet was she during this?

>>77365589
HAHAHAHAHAHA

>>77365821
here's one lol

>>77365774
They did that in UFC too

>>77365817
kek

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CANT BELIEVE THERE ARE 3 BLACK CHAMPS, WHY IS THIS ALLOWED, MMA IS THE WHITE MANS SPORT. GO BACK TO BOXING

>>77365820
i don't mind grappling, but you can't even lie masdival vs maia was entertaining to watch. few might say it was because of how dangerous masdival was at all times but it was a snoozefest

>>77364751
Its a rigged fight, but boxing is dead and so is old floyd.

>>77365832
kailin is FREE money

>>77365847

Broner is gonna get WHITED tonight by Garcia

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>>77365847

>>77365847
turby lol try harder dude cmon

>>77365847
There are 3.5 black champs.

>>77365868
Money Garcia is literally pure aztec, no Spaniard genes

>>77365714
Brock could be good

I AM JUST COMPLETELY AGAINST ETHNIC DIVERSITY I THINK ANYONE OF COLOUR SHOULD NOT HAVE THE SAME OPPORTUNITIES AS ME

MY ANCESTORS DIDNT GO TO THE EFFORT OF ENSLAVING ALL PEOPLE INFERIOR TO THE WHITE MAN FOR NOTHING

LIBERALS HAVE DONE THIS. PRAISE KEK

>>77365388
I have a story about a japanese girl handing me a lollipop.

It was night, I was alone with her in a youth hostel's dormitory, it was February in Spain and I only knew her name and that she was visiting Spain after a trip to the Netherland.

She was sitting on her bed, licking a lollipop and looking at me. She was licking it suggestively... in a very sexual maner. She was looking at me intensely but her gaze was soulless and cold. Nothing but night, artificial light, silence and that girl doing that weird thing and looking at me as if I was some kind of uninteresting test result from a mad experiment.

My brain entered panic mod. I had no idea about what to do or what it meant. I couldn't fathom the whole situation. I don't understand women at all and I'm still afraid of them at age 30.

Then she put the lollipop right in front of my face. What the... And she was still looking straight in my eyes with her weird, soulless cold gaze. She was holding the lollipop and I started to lick it, and as I licked it she turned it slowely like kebab meat on a stick and she started to exhale while looking at me licking the lollipop. That stare was so disturbing but now you could see the lust paint itself on her face.

We had sex everyday until she left Spain for Italy.
We never really talked.

People are fucking pyscho I told you.

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gabi garcia

seeing maidana fuck broner up was nice to watch, can it be argued maidana was closest one to beat floyd?

>>77365817
LOOK AT ME!
I AM BOXING NOW!

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>mfw tyrone loses tonight

>>77365890
go back to discord you shitposting loser

>>77365890
Get help you mental manlet

>>77365890
fuck off retard just because my grandparents are from india doesn't make me any less scottish

>>77365800
do you think jon jones would take part in an eliminator like that? NOPE. he spends 6 months preparing for ONE opponent, like everyone else in the UFC.

>>77365895

I wonder if he smashed.

>>77365916
not him but there's way too many indians now and most of them do not consider themselves british they stay in their isolated communities

>>77365905
You'll be crying if Woodley loses? Woah goes to show who the real cuckolds are.

>>77365916

Go away pajeet

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>>77365892

>>77365877
Who is the .5?

*revs up sperg*

i never watch the fights but every day i make fun of you for any you picked incorrectly, actually i watched ONE this year and it was weidman/gastelum

what is your favorite submission?

>>77365675
Nope, still a retard and a boring fighter. He gets deleted by a backpack tonight.

literally all my boys are underdogs tonight except cyborg. FML

>>77365714
Money Gayweather

>>77365979
Conor McGregor

>>77365975
>>77365975
No one cares you eejit. This is an MMA thread not your whine circlejerk, how do you let yourself become this much of a loser?

>>77365975
it's different for britain but america is literally a nation of immigrants lol

>>77365899
>t-this time

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I wish they would let me next door so I could spit on your dick

>Less than a month till 49-1

Are you ready lads?

>>77365979
really nigguuuh?
watch the maymac presser again you pleb

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>>77365986
>This literal 209'er
Your tears will never not be delicious.

>>77365899

>can it be argued maidana was closest one to beat floyd?

kek no

>>77364659
it's true what they say about them lightskin niggas

>>77366024
bitch I don't watch fucking press conferences I got shit to do

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How long until early prelims?

Also, predictions where?

MY GIRL STITCH ALBU IS FIGHTING, LADS

ABSOLUTELY WEW

>>77366028
i'm boxing casual, who was closest?

i'm going to bed but does anyone have a stream something like taima in case i wake up?

>>77366048
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KW-ihHOQU7M&feature=youtu.be&t=42

>>77365864
She's an underdog right now albu is too athletic for her

>>77366018
don't embarrass yourself please

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>>77365847
>>77365770
This is just embarrassing, Shanu

>>77366055
http://taima.tv/r/mma

>>77366049
Your girl since this week

I really want Maia to win tonight just to see tyrone crying saying it was all because ufc hate him 'cause is black

>>77366050

The closest without question was José Luis Castillo in the first fight they had. Most people (myself included) think Castillo won that fight pretty clearly

Then after him its probably Oscar

Where can I watch this throwdown?

>>77364920
he was in a bad way just before the weigh ins, I believe he has the power to finish Jones, but I think he only has 2, maybe 3 rounds in him to do it

>>77366078
my girl since her UFC debut

>>77366071
kailin is athletic too, more experienced, better camp..this is her time to shine lol

>>77366048
the press conferences were better than the actual fight will be

>>77366062
That's the type of shit joke your drunk uncle slurs at you while hugging/holding you to not fall down and wobbling all over the place while still holding onto you somehow.

He can do better

>>77366079
Tyron literally picked this fight ... Maia wanted a longer camp and Woodley wanted him out of the way so he could fight GSP in November

>>77365899
Maidana probably had the closest fight with Floyd. Unironically thought he won the first fight

>>77366095
Yeah right bandwagoner

>>77366084
have not watched fight in long time but is it me or ortiz was doing well before he asked to be ko'd?

>>77366126

Was it autism?

>>77366049
butterface 2017 for me. Hope she wins dominantly. The UFC is really lacking a hot russian strawweight...

>>77366126
what the fuck was that all about

>>77366135

No Ortiz was not doing well, he was pressing Floyd on the ropes sure but nothing was landing

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>>77366079
>>77366116
This butthurt is already unbelievable

>>77366122
Same desu

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>>77366126

It's like he's working an office job, just another day in.

>>77366097
unless it's pocket change i don't see how anyone is literally BETTING on albu, what fight have you seen of hers that would make you put actual money on her to win?

>>77366111
>That's the type of shit joke your drunk uncle slurs at you while hugging/holding you to not fall down and wobbling all over the place while still holding onto you somehow.

german humor everybody. While I agree it was a lame joke by Conor your analogy was awful...

>>77365916
kek

>>77366122
>>77366156
i like maidana, he's goodboy. he was so close to knocking out amir can

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>>77366135
The headbutt that started it all was out of frustration, Ortiz was on his way to being stpped anyway IMO

early prelims are hype, can't wait for curran to lose AGAIN so calendarnig**r gets btfo

>>77366126
Woodley heem'd him back to his old ways of not caring lol

>>77366158
This, you must be the only person in /heem/ that understood that