/nba/ - Kobewave Edition

The lack of empathy and compassion in these threads is disturbing. A real group of sociopaths. There are real people on the other side of the screen.

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>>77352010
>WAS:Brandon Jennings will play in China
LMAO
>MIA:Report: MIA offers Dragic & Winslow for Kyrie
Winslow is shit desu, not worth it
>Report: Russell Westbrook expected to play in the Drew League.
IT'S LITTY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

WHO FUCKING HYPE HERE!!!!????!!!!!????

>>77352032
>expecting empathy and compassion from a group of autists

Thoughts on 2k18? Anyone getting it this year?

I was saving up money but then I got hungry and had to use it

Nobody is buying 2k this year. Live is back on top.

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>brown
>tatum
>hayward
>morris
>crowder

they all play the same position

>>77352068
In the LD we only play 2k

>>77352049
If the report that the Clippers are willing to do PatBev + DJ is true, I really can't see anyone else beating that. That's a really good deal for both teams.

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I think this man joined the Cavs assuming he would be the starting PG. He is gonna be salty when he realizes he is coming off the bench for Bledsoe

>>77352072
that's not true at all

some of them are 3s, some of them are jumbo 2s, some of them are smallball 4s

>>77352072
Brown- 2-4
Tatum 3-4
Hayward 2-4
Morris 3-5
Crowder 2-4

Nerd. Those aren't the same.

>>77352110
>morris
>5
AHAHAAHAHAHAHAH

Remember when Brad Stevens unironically beat the Wizards in the playoffs while running a lineup consisting of 4 guards and a small forward?

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>>77352110
>>77352106

oo-ok and which one of those are gonna rebound for you lmao? and who's gonna defend LeBron?

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Lebron is better passer, rebounder and shot blocker than Jordan. He's bigger, stronger and faster than Jordan. He has a higher BBIQ than Jordan. He has more playoff points in less shots than Jordan making him a more efficient scorer than Jordan.

>>77352141
3-5

>>77352141
Jordan was too good of a defender, LeBron would never get pass him unless it was on a fast break or something

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yall niggas jelly?

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>he's still spamming his copypasta after being BTFO over and over again

>>77352032

Is this a real post?

>Westbrook will play in the Drew League on Sunday

BROS!!!!! WESTBROOK LITERALLY HASN'T PARTICIPATED IN A SINGLE PRO-AM GAME SINCE JAMES HARDEN WAS STILL IN OKC!!!!

THIS IS HUGE

>jumbo 2s

this is fucking retarded im sorry

>>77352072
>positions

>>77352139
rebounds are overrated

>>77352141
Jordan is better than anybody else in the history of the game at scoring consistently at high usage. He's substantially better at it than any of the next best guys. No one was ever able to get their shot as well as Jordan did. His ability to do that as well as he did is essentially a completely unique skill that it's really hard to evaluate, but I think it's very valuable especially in the playoffs.

Plus, Jordan was also a really good defender! I agree that Bron is a slightly better defender overall because he's bigger, but Jordan was a really good defender. I mean, he won DPOY.

I think MJ is a little better, obviously they're both insane though, 2 best ever.

Nobody cares about westbrook

>morris 3-5

Im done with this CLOWN

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>Nobody cares about westbrook
>rebounds are overrated
>morris 3-5

are you guys being ironically dumb

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>rebounds are overrated

who /ocd/ here?

>>77352186
you just need to accept that the Boston Celtics are playing 31st century basketball, friend

Morris definitely can play the 5 in small ball lineups

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Can we apologize to him now?

Reminder that the top 5 teams in rebound differential didn't make the playoffs or lost in the first round

>>77352208
LeBron can get his shot pretty much at will, but unlike Jordan he's asked to do everything else as well and he gets tired too easily in the playoffs.

>>77352221
I blame Kyrie

He made all the kids dumb, so now the underraged posters here are even dumber than before.

A single flat earther ruined America.

>>77352238
For what? He literally hasn't done anything.

Deandre Jordan wouldn't even get minutes against the warriors lmao at that guy who said pat Bev+Deandre is the best deal for irving

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>rebound differential

>>77352252
For the process. It worked.

>>77352240
Reminder the Warriors out rebounding the Cavs was integral to their victory, especially shutting down TT, so much so even Steph Curry was out rebounding him by waiting under the free throw line to have at least 2-3 bodies around TT at all times.

>>77352255
That's the stat that shows how efficiently a team rebounds. I thought y'all said rebounds were important.

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>He literally hasn't done anything.

>>77352268
Warriors won because they made shots, the Cavs missed shots, and they caused turnovers. Don't act like rebounding won them the finals lmfao.

>>77352271
The top 5 rebounding teams in the playoffs have won the NBA championship at a 55% rate.

Big men getting the rebounds is a meme now

It's all about boxing out and letting the guards get the rebound for a fast break

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>Don't act like rebounding won them the finals lmfao.

>Big men getting the rebounds is a meme now

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Who's on the other line?

>>77352286
Don't act like it didn't help them win you retarded Celtshit.

If not for boxing out TT and stopping him from getting his OffRebs the Cavs would've had at least an added 2.5 PPG to their offense and would've won the close games they were in and the series would've at least gone to 6 games.

It's a lot more complicated than rebound differential.

>Don't act like it didn't help them win you retarded Celtshit.

I'm a Spurs fan, sweetie

>>77352305
Ice cube telling his bum ass to actually play some minutes in big 3 because the ratings are plummetting

I saw Lavar at a grocery store in Los Angelas yesterday. I told him how cool it was to meet him in person, but I didn’t want to be a douche and bother him and ask him for photos or anything.

He said, “Oh, like you’re doing now?”
I was taken aback, and all I could say was “Huh?” but he kept cutting me off and going “huh? huh? huh?” and closing his hand shut in front of my face. I walked away and continued with my shopping, and I heard him chuckle as I walked off. When I came to pay for my stuff up front I saw him trying to walk out the doors with like fifteen Milky Ways in his hands without paying.


The girl at the counter was very nice about it and professional, and was like “Sir, you need to pay for those first.” At first he kept pretending to be tired and not hear her, but eventually turned back around and brought them to the counter.

When she took one of the bars and started scanning it multiple times, he stopped her and told her to scan them each individually “to prevent any electrical infetterence,” and then turned around and winked at me. I don’t even think that’s a word. After she scanned each bar and put them in a bag and started to say the price, he kept interrupting her by yawning really loudly.

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>>77352294
whoever drew the >mfwlgofdl lelbron is a good artist, captures that smug superiority perfectly

This nigga really acting like the Warriors shutting down Tristan fucking Thompson is why they won lmfao

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>For the process. It worked.

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>>77352305
>Colangelo, trade Fultz for Kyrie, I'm coming back to teach my Son.
>I'm finally winning that ship

Why is /nba/ so jealous of harry? Is it because he's an international movie star?

>>77352305
Porzingis, they work out in the summer and play glow in the dark basketball

>>77352253
he'd definitely get minutes against the warriors

elite defensive presence

top 5 center in the league

gamechanger

don't be ridiculous

>>77352326
You think it had nothing to do with it? All those missed shots by the Cavs and the average second chance opportunities they had in the regular season and last year's finals had nothing to do with adding points to their offense? You think TT being one of the best OffReb players in the game had no impact on their team strategy and the Warriors actively trying to sabotage that strategically had no impact on the Finals at all?

>>77352371
Warriors won because they have better scorers. More rebounds for the Cavs would just lead to more wasted possessions. I'm just going to ignore your strawmanning

The Warriors had 11 more rebounds than the Cavs did the entire series you bum, stop acting like they had 50 more a game than them you lil bum

>>77352305
Goddamn he looks more like a bug every year
When he was at Georgetown he looked like a normal kid and now, Jesus

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>This celtshit salty about his team being an awful rebounding team to the point he has to attack the entire premise of rebounds

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>this bum who, thinks anyone who doesn't agree is a Celtics fan, is really arguing that rebounding won the Warriors the Finals

Kyrie for CP3 straight-up. Who says no? Kyrie has a far better contract than CP3 for the Rockets - he's younger and has a lower salary.

Can we all please just stop arguing, we can all be friends here and be beacons of positivity for each other.

>>77352412
Check last year's Finals.

Cavs murdered the Warriors with OffRebs and it's one of the biggest reasons they or any team can hang with the Warriors offensively by getting second chance points because they're not as efficient scoring as the Warriors on a talent level. Most offensive rebounds are near the rim and guarantee at least getting fouled going to score at the rim, getting an easier put back, or resetting the offense, with LeBron being as good as he is he'll regularly make corrections to their plays and execute it properly the second time, especially taking the ball out of Kyrie's hands.

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>>77352399
>He thinks having more chances to score from rebounding means a less chance of winning

>>77352464
CP3 is much better than Kyrie

>the Cavs won in 2016 because they got more offensive rebounds, not because Curry couldn't shoot for shit

this nigga really trying to argue that offensive rebounds were more important to the Cavs/Warriors finals than scoring was

>>77352471
By your logic that means Oklahoma City should win the finals because they were the best offensive rebounding team in the league amirite

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>>77352481
Maybe 6 years ago

The Warriors literally had 3 more offensive rebounds than the Cavs did this finals series

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>>77352481
>CP3 is much better than kyrie

AHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHHAHAAHA

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>you will never be this ass blasted about rebounds

Celtshits are the most pathetic posters I've ever seen.

>>77352511
>>77352566
you have to cut guys some slack for playing on the Clippers. they're spiritually haunted.

>everyone who doesn't agree with me are celshits fans

lmao, fuck bawwston but damn they're in some of y'all's heads lmfao

LaVar Ball's team and his shitty son Meme Melo was getting so BTFO by Zion's team he literally went mental on a female ref, received a tech, and threatened to pull his team out of the game on the spot if the tech wasn't rescinded and the ref wasn't ejected, and Adidas actually fucking did it.

This is fucking disgusting.

https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/adidas-shamefully-gave-lavar-ball-the-power-to-remove-a-woman-from-her-job/

>>77352609

LaVar is a real nigga and got no time for fuck niggas.

Did love this quote from ESPN

>They’ll all come back Friday morning, seeking more LaVar Ball, when Big Baller Brand faces Team BBC at 11 a.m. ET.
>TEAM BBC
>BBC

You can't make this shit up

>>77352471
>less chance of winning
Can't go any lower when it's already at 0 m8

>>77352609
No, officiating is fucking disgusting at just about every level of basketball. Good to see some accountability for once

>>77352305
>the call that saved the NBA

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>>77352072

Won't matter when Zizic dropping 40 points 20 rebounds on dem nigs e'ry nite screen cap it bitch boi

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How about this trade in August?

Knicks get 1st rd picks from both the Cavs and Rockets

>>77352609
Good. Put that roastie in her place.

>>77352770
I missed out Melo to the Rockets

>>77352770
Houston wouldn't do that

especially since they KNOW they're going to trade for Melo and then LeBron is coming next year

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>>77352800
>especially since they KNOW they're going to trade for Melo and then LeBron is coming next year

>>77352110
Brown is a 3, he sucks playing at the 2 because of his horrible shot and can't play the 4 because he's a twink.

Tatum is a 3 and will suck playing at the 4 but can thrive in the 2 if he can memechuck.

Hayward is a pure 3, the Jizz sucked at him playing 2 and he never played the 4.

Morris is a 4 who plays the 3 and can't play the 5 to save his life.

Crowder is a 3 who can play the 4 but can't play the 2 because he's slow and can't memechuck.

>>77352770
Why the fuck would the Knicks do that

>>77352770
Knicks are giving up way too much, and no way Rockets want to give up Chris Paul who wants to play with Harden right after signing him.

>>77352858
Crowder can't memechuck? Are you serious dude?

>>77352858
Brown will probably be able to play the 4 as he gets older and musclier

>>77352879
He can't.

t. Celties fan

>>77352854
give me 3 good reasons he would go anywhere BUT Houston

>>77352873
They get two first round picks and they're not going to be good anytime soon? They're not taking on bad players, just bad contracts

>>77352876
That would depend CP3 would mind playing next to Bronny instead should the opportunity arise. Agents talk.

>>77352879
he shot well from 3 last year, but that's it
https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/c/crowdja01.html
league ave is ~35-36%
https://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_stats.html

>>77352915
>They get two first round picks and they're not going to be good anytime soon? They're not taking on bad players, just bad contracts

Those are going to be really shitty picks, though, especially since at least Cleveland if not both would demand protection

>That would depend CP3 would mind playing next to Bronny instead should the opportunity arise. Agents talk.

CP3 would love to play with Bron and vice versa. But they can just do that in Houston next year (or anywhere else that can fit 2 max contracts since they're both FAs) instead of forcing LeBron to stay in Cleveland and continue playing for Dan Gilbert which he CLEARLY does not want to. And it would piss off Harden for no reason.

>>77352915
The get 2 first round picks that would be in the late 20s....

>>77352905
Lebron would probably rather lose in the nba finals than the wcf

>retards think the Rockets will trade CP3 after just getting him

L

>>77352947
first of all, he needs to beat the Warriors either way, whether it's in the WCF or in the Finals doesn't make a huge difference.

second, where's he going to go in the East? he's clearly not going to stay in Cleveland. I don't think he's going back to Miami with all the baggage from there. And play with Hassan Whiteside's annoying ass instead of CP3 and (maybe) Melo. What other teams would be as good as Houston basketball-wise that he could realistically join? Seriously, name which team in the East he's going to join.

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>this thread

>>77352974
Lebron is going to stay in Cleveland and pray that Curry's ankles give out on him again

no team is going to be able to beat a healthy GSW regardless, Lebron can still pad his stats out while playing less time in the east and just cruise to the finals

>the Rockets that just pumped and dumped all their assets and cap space on a meme run last year only to collapse in the most embarrassing fashion possible
>a landing spot for LeBron James

Please god oh lord in heaven strike down this retard. He's even worse than Lakers fans.

>>77352938
For taking on two not-that-bad contracts? Neither Anderson nor Shumpert are bad players.

Fine, throw in Onuaku as well.

>>77353063
they literally just got CP3, because he wanted to go there, and you think there's no chance they could get LeBron James

Rockets WILL have the entire banana boat crew and harden next season

>>77353127
Cp3 is an idiot for wanting to go to Houston though

lol @ the idea bron will take a pay cut to play somewhere

maybe he'll join the knicks lol. they have cap space and porzingis lol

>>77353166
If Houston trades Anderson for Melo, I'm pretty sure they can arrange things such that they can pay LBJ whatever he wants

>>77353197
Please stop posting

>>77353202
It's funny because even OKC has a better chance of landing LeBron James than the Rockets at this point. It's fucking hilarious how dumb this guy is.

Melo gets bird rights
Cp3 bird rights
LeBron max
Dwayne Wade minimum

Cp3
Harden
Melo
James
Capella

Wade

Swept in 1

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>>77353220
Ooh! You owned them! They reached and you teached

>>77353220
Melo ($25m), CP3 ($23m) and Harden ($28m) have cap holds that would preclude them paying LeBron the max, or any FA more than about $20m

>>77353220
absolute madman

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>/nba/ still thinks traditional centers and "positions" are a thing in the NBA

>>77353273
Oh wow, bro, did you seriously just come in here with facts and figures????

This is totally not acceptable bro.

>>77353220
This, they will sign LeBron then use bird rights to re-sign melo and cp3

>>77353273
Might be possible if Melo took a significant pay cut, though. He'd be leaving a lot of money on the table.

LeBron and CP3 wouldn't

The NBA is basically wings and bigs now

Positions don't exist

>>77353283
>>77353315
t. butthurt celtics fag

>>77353303
they have bird rights on them?

>>77353308
cp0 should fuck off

>>77353283
>most centers are shit
>position dies

>most shooting guards are shit
What happens now?

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Here is Lebeta's legacy so far:

0. Lebronze medal
1. Got raped in the '07 finals even though he had a solid group of role players
2. "The Decision"
3. Popularizing the super team gimmick
4. Colludes with 2 other all Stars and dead eye shooters on the bench
5. Only won a second ring because Pops was too stupid to leave Duncan in the game.
6. Quit on his team in 2014 finals because he shit his pants.
7. had to get the other teams most valuable player suspended and their rim protector injured in the same game for his 2016 ring.
8. wanted to fight kyrie because he's a flat earther
9. get's exposed by SAS for being a avid trap lover (when he get's back from vacation)

But he is the LEgooooooood

>>77353308
Paycut? He's not a FA next year, he's locked in to his contract.

if kyrie doesnt get traded by da land by 4pm tomorrow hes staying until he retires

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>>77353346

>>77353327
Yes, teams inherit bird rights from trades

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>>77353354

>>77353346
durant pays for hookers to fart in his face lmao

>>77353353
They're trading him for Wiggins

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>>77353366

My skin is starting to melt from all the toxic radiation emanating from the last 20 comments in his thread.

The retardation and overall cancer is staggering.

>>77353349
Melo has a player option next season which he could decline and re-sign at a huge a pay cut.

>>77353371
So does LeBron, Durant just isn't a fake like LeBron who tries to hide his affairs with Instagram whores

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>>77353382

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>>77353398

>>77353395
The season hasn't started yet so next season is 2017-18, you're talking about 18-19

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>>77353394
could be herpes

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>>77353402

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The box score is even funnier.

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>>77353414

STOP FUCKING SHITPOSTING! THIS ISNT FUFKUBG REDDT WE ARE A HUB FOR SERIOUS NBA DIDCUSSION ONLY.L FUCJ OFF

>>77353437
Small Twink Brant just got BLACKED

LaVar is a fucking cuck

>>77353362
thanks

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>>77353402

If the rumor of the Clippers offering DeAndre Jordan and Beverly are true, can any team possibly match?

>>77353480
Even just Eric bledsoe is better than that offer

>76ers' Markelle Fultz: 'We're going to be in the playoffs'

Says the nigga who can't get double digit wins in Pac 12 lmfaoooooooo

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>>77353505
nobody takes them serious. can't even make the playoffs in the Lebron east

>>77353505
Literally shut the fuck up you manchild

>nigga
>lmfao
Underraged white tryhard

>>77353495
No fucking way, don't sleep on Jordan.

>>77353518
>being this mad

lmfaooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

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>nobody takes them serious

Reminder:
76ers are gonna be trash
Celtics are still LeBron's bitch
Lakers are gonna be trash

I lmao always seeing you perennial losers arguing with each other. Nothing is gonna change for you this season.

>>77353480
If that's the best anyone can offer the Cavs, why not just keep Kyrie?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lljjd8jFck8

>>77352265
oh how many playoff appearances do the 6ers have in the last 10 years?

>>77353480
they should try and dump tt for lou

>>77353273
Melo's is a player option that he could renounce and then re-sign for cheap. Would definitely need to take a pay cut though.

>>77353495
get the fuck out of here. that's just ridiculous. there is no universe in which Eric Bledsoe has more value than DJ and PatBev. just fucking ridiculous.

>>77353549
>process has only gone on for 3-4 years
>counting back the last 10

autism

>>77353538
Because Kyrie would just tank the season to not risk injury.

The 76ers are like that short nigga who won't shut the fuck up and wants everyone to take him seriously but he's literally a worthless peon

>>77353538
he's gone, its over anon

>>77353557
>the 76ers have literally been 14th or 15th in the east the last 4 years
>da process tho

lmaooooooooooo

>>77353329
Shooting guards are now wings which can be played by any versatile forward.

Patrick Beverly? Ain't that the guy who struggled to even get in the league LMAOOOO

>>77353578
embiid
fultz
simmons
dario
covington

better than the celtics current core tbqh

lmaoooooo is my favorite meme

>>77353573
>>77353561
You really think when the season starts in October Kyrie is just gonna think "Man I'm still here, guess I better not try and brick every shot even though we're still the best team in the east"

>>77353557
>muh process
how is tanking a "process"? your just throwing games, it's not that hard. their draft picks have been trash as far as we can see too.

celtics are so bad lmaooooo

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Lmao do the sixers top picks the last 4 years even have a full season of games between them?

>>77353602
its not their fault danny is a idiot desu

>>77353586
Not even a Celshits fan but
>Embiid
literally has played 10 games a season the last 3 years, injury prone
>Fultz
Drafted first overall yet there are 3 point guards better than him, injury prone
>Simmons
He's tall as fuck with no jumpshot or body strength. Literally an awkward MCW with no speed, injury prone
>Dario
Bit sad this is the best player the 76ers have gotten in drafts
>Covington
This bum would be nothing more than a 20 minutes per game role player on a contender

Wow, the Process is amazing, just look at all these amazing future hall of famers they got

>Not even a Celshits fan
i dont believe you mary

Thinking about it, if the banana boat team ever does happen it will be the 18-19 Houston Rockets

Harden gets max, CP3 signs to max using bird rights, Melo opts out and LeBron to sign at near-max, Capela signs at max using bird rights, Ariza signs with bird rights, Wade and Melo both sign as free agents using an exception (mid-level or minimum).

It's definitely possible.

Would be the biggest payroll in NBA history and lead to eye-watering luxury tax payments, though. Those salaries would be $140m+ alone. The new owner would need deep pockets.

>anyone who makes fun of my shit team has to be a Celtics fan!

76ers fans don't realize no one outside Philly actually takes them seriously, literally everyone makes fun of you

>>77353644
And swept in the second round by the Warriors.

[SERIOUS] Did the Celtics have the best offseason in NBA history? I feel like we're twice as good as the Cavs at this point and if Kyrie leaves we'll sweep them no problem

The banana boat team is my new favorite meme team. I'm gonna assemble them in 2k18 and go 82-0

>>77353660
>ironically or unironically going to reddit

almost as sad as the celtics

>>77353676
serious replies only please

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>simmons

>>77353664
>82-0
>with a bunch of washed up 32 year olds plus LeBron that can't space the floor and need rest and lower minutes

Uhhh do the 76ers realize if you're gonna tank every season you gotta use those picks on good players? They only got it half right

>>77353656
Quite possibly. Would be fun though tbqfh, most ambitious superteam ever made. That's 4 players from the 2012 Olympic roster...

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>people unironically shit talking about Fultz and Simmons

I can get Embiid but those 2 are the real deal in terms of upside and potential

>>77353586
Porter Jr > Embiid
Doncic > Fultz
Tatum > Simmons
Brown > Dario

>>77353747
have you seen how much the Nets improved?

>>77353726
>7 footer with foot injuries
>point guard with the stamina of a 300 pound center
>both also didn't even make the NCAA tourney

If I was a 76ers fan I sure as hell wouldn't be proud.

>porter jr

>>77353756
Mozgov will never play because he doesn't fit the nets offense. Carroll is just a terrible fucking player. Russell is extremely inconsistent and will go through immense growing pains as the leader of a team. Crabbe is a terrible defender and a complete black hole on offense. Jeremy Lin is always injured. They have 2 players over 6'8 on their roster (allen, mozgov) and one of them won't ever see the court.

>>77353747
Doncic is definitely not better than Futlz and Tatum is definitely not better than Simmons

come on now

>>77353794
Russell's most likely outcome IMO is basically Jrue Holliday. which, like, Jrue Holliday is a good basketball player, but at the same time, having 21-year-old Jrue Holliday as one of the best players on your team is not a good sign

that said, the East is so bad I think they'll be more like the 5th or 6th worst record in the league rather than the worst

Why didn't the 76ers draft Lonzo first overall if they wanted a PG? He was dropping trip dubs in SL and Fultz's fatass had to sit out every 4 possessions

>>77353794
They'll improve, which is the most important

odds are you likely won't get either of the players you listed

>>77353865
because they're not a stupid team like the goddamn Magic Johnson Lakers and so they know that Lonzo sucks and should have been picked 9th or 10th

YEAH I'M BRINGIN IT BACK LONZO SUCKS ASS HE IS NOT A GOOD PLAYER

>they're not a stupid team
>haven't drafted the best player in any of their 4 drafts where they got high picks

Lmfaoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

>>77353883
every team that passed on Jokic is stupid. fact. undeniable truth. why else would they pass on the best player in the draft.

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>suck my harry dick

>>77353900
glad you caught that :^)

>70shitters draft MCW over Giannis
>draft Embiid over literally anyone who isn't Greg Oden 2
>draft Okafor over Porzingis
>draft Simmons over literally anyone has played 1 minute in the NBA
>draft Fultz over Ball, Tatum, Fox, Jackson, Smith

How can 1 team be so bad at drafting

>>77353923
Hindsight is 50/05

>>77353931
Yeah that's true, but they literally had 5 high picks to get it right and couldn't even once. How many other teams have had as many draft picks as them? They had the most chances and literally bet their entire future on drafting and failed.

>after the 70shitters were stupid enough to trade Iggy and a first round pick for the shell of Andrew fucking Bynum they try to build through the draft, only to fuck that up too

lmaoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

>>77353940
> How many other teams have had as many draft picks as them?

the Cleveland Cavaliers. as you can see from Anthony Bennett leading them to victories night after night

>>77353951
I don't see the Cavs having top 5 picks the last 4 years m8. I haven't seen any team as a matter of fact have that many. Sad!

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>>77353644

most experts expect the next owner to have very deep pockets

>>77353960
They had 5 between 2011 and 2014. From which they got Kyrie, Tristan Thompson, Dion Waiters, Anthony Bennett, and Wiggins. Which isn't a great return. The Sixers drafts could easily end up being more valuable. The Cavs just got bailed out by the greatest player of all time having been born in Ohio.

All I'm saying is that the Sixers don't have a particularly bad draft record.

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>The 76ers have been shit for so long and all they have to show for it are low iq versions of greg oden and brandon roy and a literal retard at the point

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>Simmons would have gone #1 in the last 9 drafters
>Fultz is consensus best player in this draft barring Ainge
>both are somehow bad now despite not playing a game yet

>>77353982
Your argument could work if the Cavs haven't been to 3 straight finals and got a ring.

>Simmons would have gone #1 in the last 9 drafters
>Fultz is consensus best player in this draft barring Ainge

This is what delusion 6ers fans truly believe. Jesus, how fucking sad.

>>77353998
solely because of Lebron James, you fucking moron

>>77354001
the Simmons thing is insane but the Fultz thing isn't at all

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>Simmons would have gone #1 in the last 9 drafters

>>77354010
>solely because of Lebron James, you fucking moron

What's that? What'd you say? Oh that you need a good free agency acquisition to win championships? Oh the 6ers have that covered, they're paying JJ Reddick 22 million this season.
Also to be fair, the Cavs fucking drafted Lebron. Also drafted Kyrie and TT and used Wiggins to get Kevin Love.

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>Simmons would have gone #1 in the last 9 drafters

>>77354026
look at the fucking genius team they drafted Anthony Bennett. they drafted LeBron, get the fuck outta here, come on, he was only the actual most hyped NBA prospect in history.

>>77354058
The Cavs cut their losses and kept their good draft picks. And who cares if he was the most hyped prospect, they still got him. They got 1st overall a good year and drafted a good player. I'm not sure what you're arguing against considering the Cavs were in the Finals this season and won the Finals last season, with their 4 best players all there from their high draft picks. While the 76ers have been deadlast or just above deadlast in the east the last 4 seasons and you can't even look at any of their players and say "Man that guy really tore up the league this season, they have someone special".

>>77354081
The Sixers are fine at drafting and most of their draft picks were reasonable. People go crazy talking about how shitty their picks were. IT's not true.

And their best player they've drafted and the only time they've had the first pick in the draft, they just drafted. Of course you can't look at him and say he tore up the league. It's ridiculous.

>>77354102
>And their best player they've drafted

Are people already forgetting about AI?

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>>77354081

>they don't have someone special

are you high? Did you miss the first half of last season? Him staying healthy is an issue, but that's other issue

>>77354117
what is going on

>>77354124
it's literally just that Sixers fans talk shit and so people decide to take the opposite view no matter how stupid it is

>>77354102
How are they fine at drafting? They haven't improved at all in 4 seasons despite having 3 top 5 picks on their roster last season that they themselves drafted the last 3 drafts. Not 1 of their players they draft is a KAT or Giannis level player despite them having more opportunities to get it right than other teams have.

>>77354124
The man has literally played 31 games in 3 full seasons, how the fuck is he a relevant player? How is staying healthy not a factor in drafting special players. Did you not see the late 2000s Trailblazers lmfao

>>77354135
i agree that they're not good right now

that's maybe not the best measure for determining how good their draft picks were

>>77354130
>>77354143

Literally everybody has acknowledged that Embiid is special and will tear up the league if he stays healthy

>>77354143
They gambled on an injured elite player. Seeing Embiid play, it's totally obvious why they did it. They didn't miss out on anyone elite who was beneath him - I'd argue the best player under him in the draft was Clint Capela, he's nowhere near as good as Embiid could be, and 22 other teams didn't choose him (and Saric but the Sixers got him anyway).

>>77354135
not all on-paper 1st picks end up living up to the hype surrounding them

can't really fault the team for playing the odds

>>77354149
>how many wins your drafts picks add to your team is not the best measurement for how good of a pick you drafted

u r stoopid

>>77354159
>if he stays healthy

You mean if he gets healthy, he hasn't been healthy at all lmao. Stop talking in hypotheticals, it doesn't matter if you're the next MJ, if you can't be on the court to play you're useless. As of right now he literally looks like Greg Oden 2.

>>77354167
Sure they gambled but so far it looks like a fail, he's missed 88% of his games.
>>77354170
And I agree, but if you have 4 chances in a row to get your franchise player and can't, that's just bad drafting. Or you need to fire your medical/training staff.

>>77354196
they might have gotten a franchise player. two of the players we're talking about haven't played in the NBA yet. one of them was drafted 36 days ago!!!!!

>>77354196
you're literally arguing that the 76ers are bad at drafting because Markelle Fultz isn't a star yet

>>77354207
True, maybe Simmons will be like Blake Griffin, but you see other players drafted in their draft class already making impacts on their teams and the 76ers haven't even put their's on the court yet. And it's not like it's just Embiid being injury prone either.

>>77354217
No I'm arguing the 76ers are bad at drafting because Embiid, Okafor, and Simmons are not stars.

>>77354240
simmons hasn't played yet...

>>77354196
Outside of Porzingis, who in the last 4 drafts could they have realistically picked that would've been better?

>>77354240
Simmons -literally- hasn't played yet and Embiid has barely played

the 76ers could turn out great in a few years with these draft picks, it's impossible to know right now

>>77354233
>maybe Simmons will be like Blake Griffin
often injured and a fuqboi?

>>77354240
Okafor was a bad pick. that's 1 out of 4. Embiid is more of a star than anybody picked after him except Jokic. And the people drafted after Simmons aren't bad but they're not exactly fucking aces. Malcolm Brogdon won the fucking RotY. You're arguing at this point that the Sixers are bad at drafting because they don't have fucking Aaron Gordon or Kris Dunn. Like come the fuck on.

>>77354253
They could have a core of Giannis, Lonzo, Ingram/Murray/Brown/Hield, Porzingis right now. You're gonna tell me those players wouldn't be better than what the 76ers have right now?

>>77354266
He's already like that

>>77354270
Giannis wasn't in the last 4 drafts.

All of Ingram, Murray, Brown, and Hield are still extremely unproven and there's no guarantee that any of them are going to be particularly good. Lonzo, like Fultz who they drafted over him, has not played a single fucking minute in the NBA. Porzingis, OK, fair enough, they should have taken Porzingis over Okafor. But I don't think Lonzo and Ingram and Murray is especially better than Fultz and Embiid and Simmons.

>>77354135
Noel was a good pick
Joel Embiid was a good pick
Okafor was bad
Simmons was the obvious pick
Jury is still out on Fultz

>>77354270

We literally don't know yet. Of that list only Giannis is better than Embiid and he wouldn't even be the same player if it weren't for KIdd

You guys are arguing about potential, but that's entirely hypothetical. And if you look at them in college, it's not like they were Anthony Davis or Damian Lillard and tore up the NCAA, they were guys that dropped out of the NCAA tournament early. The fact that the entire future of the 76ers is based on hypotheticals is sad. We're talking about players that were drafted in previous drafts and they literally have shown nothing in the NBA.

>>77354270
>they could of had a guy drafted 14th that no one saw coming, a guy who the general consensus was worse than fultz, 4 guys who've accomplished nothing and have less potential than simmons, and the guy who everyone shat on the knicks for picking

fuck off desu

>>77354270
No one knew about Giannis, and yeah I would much rather have Embiid and Simmons rather than any of those fools.

>>77354292
>Noel was a good pick
They literally traded him for a second round pick
>Joel Embiid was a good pick
He's missed 88% of his games
>Okafor was bad
Tru
>Simmons was the obvious pick
Obvious doesn't always mean best, in the long run
>Jury is still out on Fultz
True, but you see the other lottery picks balling out in SL and Fultz was already injured and out. And when he did play he didn't look like he was impressive.

>>77354270
I think if Embiid and Simmons stay healthy, and Fultz lives up to his potential - they should actually be completely fine

The only bad draft was Okafor, and while they missed out on Porzingis because of that, I don't think they've done a bad drafting job overall

They have a very potentially great core

>>77354297
What else should we be talking about for guys that were just fucking drafted or haven't played in the fucking NBA or are still fucking 20 years old, except their potential

Now the Sixers are bad at drafting because they didn't take players who did well in the tournament. We're really calling the Sixers bad at drafting because they don't have Buddy Hield.

>>77352242
>LeBron can get his shot pretty much at will

lol

>>77354326
if the refs are doing their job he can

>>77354297
Drafting is based pretty much entirely on potential, are you drunk?

Like what the fuck are they supposed to do, just pick some random 2nd rounder and hope he becomes the goat for some reason?

Ben Simmons is the best player out of the last 3 drafts.

>>77354322
The 76ers is the only franchise where most of their players are talked about hypothetically. Name me 1 other team that has as many questions marks with their core that the 76ers have. Timberwolves got Wiggins and KAT and within a year of them playing we knew they were special. Same with Porzingis. You can even say Ingram looks special because at least he's shown what he can do in the NBA. I could understand you draft 1 player that's been injured for a hot minute but the rest look solid so you think "man when so-and-so comes back to that already good core, they're gonna be unstoppable" But with the 76ers you can't say that, there's not one ounce of proof that these guys have done good things in the league.

>>77354343
It's based on potential until you enter the league. Then it's time to prove yourself and play. And most of the 6ers players have not proven themselves to be able to be consistent good players in the NBA.

>>77354348
lmao, what a fucking hater,... come back when you have something intelligent to say, i seriously hope you're 12 years old, because if you're an adult,...wow LMAO,....that level of immaturity is so beyond pathetic bud, seriously lol, you're talking like a child who hasnt yet learned how grown ups talk.

>>77354349
The Sixers never had a chance to draft a guy like KAT or even Wiggins because those guys went 1st overall and they haven't had a first overall pick until this year. And nobody, including the Knicks, expected Porzingis (or Jokic) to be good as soon as they have been. Those are the exceptions, not the rules.

Brandon Ingram does not look special, by the way. He has potential but he has not looked special in the NBA. And I like the kid.

They haven't had a guaranteed star yet, and that kind of sucks, but it's not because of bad drafting. It's because of the hand they've been dealt what with one thing and another.

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>tfw the Kyrie and Melo trades STILL HAVEN'T HAPPENED YET

>>77354297
They got Okafor who tore up the NCAA and look where that got them.

Embiid is the best Center in the NBA if he is healthy. What we saw in those 31 games shows this. Maybe he will break his knee and never play again? Who knows? It was worth the risk.
Simmons has as much potential as anyone. No one has the passing and ball handling skills he has at his size and athleticism. Sure maybe he will be bust and it will always be potential. Would you really want Ingram or Brown over him? Really?

If Wiggins wasnt awful at defense and an inefficient blackhole on offense he'd be the best player in the league!

T. Sixers fan, obsessed with hypotheticals

>>77354357

The only bad player the sixers have drafted is Okafor and the book is still out on whether he's bad or just doesn't give a fuck

>>77354378
he's going to get wildly overpaid and be a total millstone around the neck of the Wolves or whoever else signs him

He's a positive player on offense but yeesh

>>77354349
Name me 1 other team that has a core that hasn't played a full season in the nba

We already expected both Wiggins and KAT to be great players, like we expect Simmons and Fultz and Embiid to be great players. Maybe once they've actually played out even one season then we can start talking about them concretely.

Ingram doesn't look special at all so far

If Rajon Rondo had a jumpshot, he'd be the best PG ever

t. Sixers fan

>>77354396
>Name me 1 other team that has a core that hasn't played a full season in the nba

That's exactly my point, they fucked up on a whole core, it's not 1 player getting injured it's every player they drafted getting injured or straight up being a bust. There's not 1 player that is a good consistent NBA starter as of this moment.

>>77354374
>Would you really want Ingram or Brown over him? Really?

Yeah I'll take the guys who have played in the NBA over the guy who spent the entire season in the hospital

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>mfw ^%er fans are getting eternally blown the fuck out in this thread

>>77354416
>they fucked up because they couldn't predict injuries and because the guy they drafted last month hasn't played yet

nice meme

>>77354399
dude you post here way too often chill

>>77354416
We don't know yet if they fucked up on Embiid. We don't know yet if they fucked up on Simmons. They literally just drafted Fultz, so we definitely don't know yet if they fucked up on him.

What on God's earth are you talking about here

>>77354428
>players that injured all the time isn't a bad thing, it's a positive, imagine if they weren't constantly injured how good they'd be!

>>77354435
Exactly my point, it's all hypotheticals, there's no concrete proof they are good players. A franchise's entire future is based on hypotheticals that they may be good if they're healthy. No other team has that.

>>77354447

sounds like golden state 6 years ago

>>77354441
>Curry was injured all the time in his earlier years
>GSW isn't actually a good team at all and they did a shitty job drafting him

>>77354419
Than your dumb lol. What was Simmons supposed to do, not break his foot? It's an injury nigga, shit happens. He has far more talent than either of them.

>>77354447
"It's all hypothetical" is not the same thing as "They fucked up"

Those are different ideas and mean different things

>>77354427
you're the weird dude who saves my images

>>77354416
>>77354447

dude what are you even talking about you lost the plot kiddo

>>77354449
>>77354450
So you're saying Curry, Klay, and Drayboon all missed entire seasons with injury? You're saying Curry played 31 games in 3 years? Curry played 80 games and 70something games his first
2 seasons, something neither Embiid or Simmons did. No one from Golden State had the injuries the 76ers have. Curry averaged 17 points and shot 44% from the 3 as a rookie, Thompson had 12 points and shot 41% from the 3. Meanwhile Embiid and Simmons have DNPs their entire first seasons.

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>>77354452
>It's an injury nigga, shit happens. He has far more talent than either of them.

>>77354453
So when you draft multiple players that can't stay on the court and you say hypothetically they're good while they literally contribute nothing to your team winning games, it's not fucking up? ok

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>It's an injury nigga, shit happens. He has far more talent than either of them.

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yall wanna watch some kino or something together

>>77354473
Simmons hasn't even been in the NBA for 2 seasons, how drunk are you actually or are you just braindead retarded normally?

desu the 6ers situation is even worse than the trailblazers because you at least knew roy and oden were good nba players

>>77354515
will you be my friend

>>77354510
post d rose next - still won't change the fact that the 76ers didn't do a bad job drafting so far

>>77354503
they drafted players who have a good chance of being good. they have a lot of potential. that's not failure. that is a good outcome for the time period we're talking about here.

they might fail later, but we don't know whether or not they've failed yet. we don't know whether they fucked up yet. so far, I think their chances look pretty reasonable, but we don't really know.

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>>77354488
>>77354510

>implying it's the same

Simmons had a freak accident injury and was ready to play since March. The only concern is Embiid

>>77354529
umm no my 3v3 team is already full

>>77354534
Remember when Simmons was supposed to be ready by the start of the NBA season and just miss Summer League? Yeah that worked out well.

>>77354548
please

>>77354531
D. Rose, Roy, and Oden at least showed they could play well in the NBA. Simmons hasn't proven shit and has no jumpshot.

>>77354534
>Simmons had a freak accident injury and was ready to play since March.

Where was he in Summer League tho

>>77354573
He didn't have to play in the jr. league again with the kids like Ingram and Brown

>>77354565
Awesome, can't wait to see if he proves himself then

>>77354590
>if

That summarizes the entire 76ers core

>>77354565
Do you normally get this angry when you drink? I know your argument is nonsense but you don't have to take it out on Simmons

>>77354596
Yeah but its better than your teams'.

Faggot

>mfw simmons was "healthy" yet they still didn't play him in the summer league
Lmao lmao red flag alert red flag alert

>>77354596
summarizes the entire core of every team in the league, really

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>lebron working out with russ
>implying he isn't gonna walk to the thunder and join russ and PG13 and force the team to put shooting roleplayers around him
its happening bros, he's taking his talents to okc to build another super team

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>>77354629

>mfw kings of the east

>Lillard getting butthurt Kyrie's better than him

I shiggy diggy. I've seen Kyrie perform at the highest level in the Finals and hitting one of the greatest shots in NBA history to win a title for Leaveland. What the fuck has Lillard done in his career except lose in the playoffs? I rest my case.

oh look thunder fans making fanfiction like they always do

>>77354629
>Westbrick
>shooting roleplayer

>>77354629
Russ and PG13 are both going to the Lakers

>>77354685
>ball dominant chucking point guard is going to a team with a point guard who can't shoot
the lakers are the special needs child of the NBA

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>clips not responding in the LD
has anyone checked his blood sugar lately?

>>77354694
If the Lakers tell Russ and PG13 not to come because they have Lonzo, they would be the stupidest team in the history of the NBA

Both Westbrook and lonzo are capable of playing shooing guard. Fuck of casual

>>77354716
>lonzo capable of playing the 2
lmao