/nfl/ general - Press F Edition

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Who else /winning that utterly meaningless game next week/ here?

>>77309879
Fuck off you faggot Jewish shill.

you don't fool anyone with your generals and press F bullshit.

>>77309907
Nice projecting

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>>77309902
>eight days until football

We've almost made it

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MIA: LB Koa Misi to retire after seven years
BAL: RB Kenneth Dixon tears meniscus, out for season
JAX: Jacksonville locks up Linder to a five year, $51.7 million contract
CAR: Kelvin Benjamin makes weight for camp
KC: Michael Vick to work for his old coach Andy Reid as assistant
DAL: Cowboys extend RT La'el Collins to 2019

>>77309879

jesus christ this was the most intentional injury i can remember, then the Stealers go on to steal the superbowl.

Satan won the NFL that season.

Do you mean last year when they went 7-8-1 he has had a history of injuries and failures in the playoffs that's what qualifies him as 'ass' but other than that yeah he is a veteran quarterback with good numbers. Was he injured last season I don't remember desu

>>77309879
fuck off you faggolt fucking shill. fuck you. fuck your thread, and fuck whoever is paying you.

>>77309952
Do you mean last year when they went 7-8-1 he has had a history of injuries and failures in the playoffs that's what qualifies him as 'ass' but other than that yeah he is a veteran quarterback with good numbers. Was he injured last season I don't remember desu

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For your viewing pleasure lads:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yaEsvO0vyyg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hCt8VSi6EeE

Pats haters need not apply

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>>77309952
>7-8-1
>you now remember the worst Football game in the history of the NFL

>>77309988
Cucking the memehawks is never all bad.

Non kike shill version

>>77309992
>>77309992
>>77309992
>>77309992
>>77309992

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>>77310016
Both teams lost that game, let's be real

>>77310046

now post the screen shot of him making the greatest come back in title game history

>>77309907
90% of this board is shills.

It's the faggot globalists wayof trying to maintain control of the media.

The degenerate who started this thread is probably a pedo or some other kind of lowlife.

>>77310029
Kek

But the literal faggot who started this thread and his army of Pajeets are going to slide all day.

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>>77310055
i got u

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>>77310055
Will do. Fuck the Packers.

>>77310075
Fuck off shill. You fool no one.

>>77310029

BUMP

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>>77310055

this what you're looking for lad?

>>77310099
thats not russell wilson dumpass lmao you in charge of knowing about football

>>77310099
>>77310110
Fuck off pedo kike shill

That and the playoff game against the Panthers were his worst games

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>>77310125
>being a stupid unoriginal postlet
lmao sis...

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>>77310099

>Pete CarLOL and DarLOL BevLOL fault
>Brady had more INT's that game than Wilson
>Brady had 4 tries to get it in at the 1 yard line last season and failed
>Brady's wife still getting BLACKED

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>>77310141
>>77310150
it really is a shill.

who do you work for faggot? Awful Announcing? Deadspin?


anons, I promise you this (and a huge percentage of the board in general) is the product of some 'progressive' media company.

And I promise you they want to harm the NFL.

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>>77310183

>your D A I L Y reminder Wilson is 2-1 against Tim Bradley with more TD passes and fewer INT's

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>>77310205

>regular season games

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>>77309973

kek

>>77310214

>4 tries
>F O U R

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bqEmoIgeJX8

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>>77310205
>>77310214
>>77310223
your daily reminder not to molest kids

>>77310183
>Awful Announcing
my money is on them.

>>77310242

>that blatant as fuck DPI

it's alright though, we won when it mattered

>>77310255

Gronk initiated contact

it was literally the definition of a no call

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>>77309973

these two superbowl collapses set black america back 50 years

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>>77310276

>hey, it was 28 to 9
>wheeze

oh fuck there go my sides again

>>77310255
>>77310265
>>77310276
all the same faggot


this board has to change

>>77310276

what do you think he said? im not even a pats fan but this was hilarious seeing Goodell hand him the trophy

>>77310183
deadspin, im paid $200 a day to shitpost in /nfl/ general alone

are you mad? im living the dream

>>77310312
even your dreams are mediocre

It's Awful Announcing. Confirmed.

you're about as slick as CTR/Shareblue, and I pray that the day of the rope is coming for you too.

Now go suck some Israeli penis you 1/2 a man.

>>77310276

>tfw Seahawk fan but was rooting for the pats not the falcons because im part of the MAGA movement

what now bitches?

>>77310344
you got me, you're 100% right. im from awful announcing and would like to do a piece on your 4 Chans website. whats your email?

>>77310294

see

>>77310289

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>>77310358

same

fuck King County

>>77310099

my wife's son is still upset about this

>>77310388

i think everyone is outside of New England just from the pure stupidity of the call

>>77310360
Why don't you just tell us who you work for?

One of Adam Silver's/greater Israel's cubicle farms/porn companies in Silicon Valley?

>>77310407
you've hit the nail on the head the last three posts buddy theres nothing more i can tell you, you won. i lost. will you please give me your email address so i can get this piece done? thanks

- david


------

its 5 o clock somewhere baby

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>>77310388

kek

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>there are teams people think can beat the Seahawks

lol

Give me one valid reason to watch your "sport"

>>77310810
It's not cricket.

>>77309907
>>77309968
What the fuck are you on about retard?

>>77309973
Absolutly classic stuff

>>77310752
Sehawks are brapp

g-go jags

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>>77309973
We'll be back.

How is nobody talking about the Cuckbois firing Lucky "gib dog pls" Whitehead?
>Oy vey, Elliott didn't do anything wrong. This mashugana Lucky is the real criminal! Evidence? What do you need evidence for goy? Oy vey, anuddah shoah!

>>77310921
>Cuckbois
>gib dog pls
>Oy vey
>goy? Oy vey, anuddah shoah!
What language is this?

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GREAT THREAD

Would be a shame if something happened to it.

>>77309902
What game?

>>77310289
It was 28-3, faggot.

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Aaron "_________" Rodgers!?~

>>77311967
>Aaron "I'm totally straight you guys" Rodgers.

MOMMA THEY TRIED TO RAPE ME

>>77311975
Huh?

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>"Bro Fournette is gonna bust"
>"The Jags are gonna be shit again this year"
>"The Titans are a playoff team"

>>77310961
>what language is this?
The language of teenage summerfags

>>77311967
"historical footnote"

>>77312214
all of those are true though

>>77312266
>teenage summer jews
IFTFY

man it is getting closer. what is a hall of game? i will watch it but what is the purpose of it?

>>77312574
an extra preseason game for two teams and shekels in Jewdells pocket

>>77312574
Supposedly it's to honor the inductees by putting teams they're associated with (this year it's Dallas-Arizona; Jerry Jones-Kurt Warner) on the field in Canton

>>77310752

Seattle plays in a division that went 23-39-2 last season yet 7 teams finished with better records. Explain.

Injuries again, I'm guessing?

>>77312655

but Kurt Warner is a Ram

>>77312272
>GOAT of humanities greatest sport
>footnote

>>77312804

> Goat

lol

> humanities greatest sport

lol

Guys I just ate some refried beans and cant stop farting. Should I be worried?

>>77312851
F

SKEEUP HOW U GONNA CUT A GUY FOR SHOPLIFFIN AND NOT CUT A GUY FO LAYIN HANDS ON A WOMIN AND DEN IT TURNS OUT THE SHOPLIFFIN GUY DIDNT SHOPLIFF AT ALL CMON SKEEUP DEFEND YOUR TEAM NOW SKEEUP

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Reminder that Dez Bryant is /OurGuy/

>>77312655
Do people really remember Warner as a Cardinal?

>>77312905
he was Favre's backup at one point

>>77312901

What a faggot?

>>77312905
he'll always be a Barnstormer to me

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>>77312901
>#anime

NExt week guys, football is back.

>>77312574
It's to honor inductees into the Hall of Fame. Pre-preseason game. It's usually boring but at least it's Football

>Be Cowboys
>Have a ton of players getting in to trouble during the off-season
>Decide to make an example out of a fringe roster player accused of shoplifting
>It comes out that he was completely innocent after you've cut him

Wew, they cannot catch a break

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>>77313112
>be Cowboys
>sign absolute niggers

It's a bold strategy, Cotton

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https://www.fieldgulls.com/2017/7/25/16013272/dak-prescott-derek-carr-comparison-value-raiders-cowboys-qbr-stats-season-outlook-preview

>The difference between the two in 2016 was enormous. For example, QBR is scaled so that a player’s QBR represents expected win percentage based on QB play. Taking each player’s 2016 QBR at face value, a team headed by Carr would be expected to win about 62% of their games, compared to 82% for Prescott (and yes, QBR is predictive of team success - possibly more than any other measure of QB play).

>In 2016, Prescott was better and younger, and going forward he carries a substantially smaller cap hit. We can’t even point to Prescott enjoying the benefits of Dallas’ excellent offensive line as an advantage over Carr’s situation because the Raiders also have a great offensive line. In fact, in my recent study of offensive line play, the Raiders appear to be better at pass protection than the Cowboys.

>The Film

>Dak can do everything Carr can do, but Carr cannot do everything Dak can do. Dak’s mobility offers advantages in play calling diversity (bootlegs, moving the pocket, read option, etc.) as well as the opportunity to pick up 1st downs by scrambling when no one is open downfield.

>Rushing value

>One of the most frustrating things about popular discourse surrounding quarterbacks is the complete disregard of a QB’s rushing value. In terms of expected points added through the ground, Prescott was #3 in the NFL and Carr was dead last out of 30 qualified QBs. Carr gained 5 first downs (0 TDs) on 38 rushing attempts (13% of rushes for 1st downs), while Prescott gained 21 first downs (6 TDs) on 57 rushing attempts (37%). This is somewhat puzzling given that Carr ran a faster 40 and had a higher vertical leap at the combine than Prescott, so he’s not exactly at an athletic disadvantage.

Based Carr posters BTFO

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>>77313189
:3

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>>77313335
You win this round

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>>77309879
shit thread and shit OP

So much more going on than your six things you discovered after hours of scouring the internet.

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>>77313294

>QBR
>muh proprietary stats

TYBC

>>77313436
Hey Anthony!

Posting in an offseason thread.

>>77313746
This week, the season beings.

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>still gonna win our division anyway

>>77313758
The Titans will.

>>77313758
Who are you most scared of in the South?

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>>77313788

>>77313791
No one.

Every team in the AFC South has a wildly incompetent front office and unqualified fucktards for owners..... the Texans just happen to be on a hot streak right now, which I'm sure is entirely on accident.

>>77313788
>>77313758
How can Titans and especially Jaguars not win that shithole division? Jaguars stock up on elite talent year in year out and they consistently get like 3 wins every year.

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>tfw want to buy a jersey
>no current browns players have jerseys worth buying
>stuck buying more generic logo merch

C-Can't wait for August, guys...

>>77313844
>Jags stock up on elite talent

Are you literally retarded

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>>77313294
>QBR

Ahahahahhaha TYBC

>>77313853
Get an Otto Graham or Jim Brown. Maybe a Joe Thomas just to be special.

>>77313853
if you really want a current one just get myles garrett

I dont see him busting

>>77313294
Boys will be this year's Panthers. There's still time for you to atone in the light of Derek, though.

>>77310223
Anyone have the one where the cowboys fan destroys his house

>>77313901
>untested rookie

No please I beg of you. Even with a low bust chance it's too much of a risk.

>>77313886
I feel weird buying legend jerseys because I wasn't around for their era. I'd rather wear the number of someone I can watch and feel connected to. Thomas isn't a bad pick, though.

>>77313866
But they do. Just this year they signed AJ Bouye and Calais Campbell and drafted Fournette, last year they drafted Ramsey, etc.

>>77313853
>no current browns players have jerseys worth buying
Joe Thomas

>>77313901
Buying rookie jerseys is the most idiotic shit ever. I still kek at all those idiots in their Johnny Manziel jerseys.

>>77313949
>>77313923

just my opinion, I think Garrett has a better chance of succeeding than manziel did

>>77313972
He's far more talented no doubt, but he's had a history of injury trouble. I've seen even bigger talents getting destroyed by injuries.

>>77313886
Duke Johnson maybe? He's a pretty fun guy to watch.

The broncos are the bomb

>>77313926
I'd go for Joe Thomas if I were you. Guy is a stud and a real class act.

>>77313994
true

browns are really young

you could get a thomas jersey but how much longer is he going to play? or even play for the browns?

I just figure Garrett should be there for a long time. Jerseys are a crap shoot though.

>>77312765
Seattle's bad o line caused a ripple affect that injured russ and then kept there 1st and 2nd string rbs injured most of the season including playoofs this created a really shitty offense that kept the defense on the field 40 minutes plus a game leading to more injuries so by the playoff loss to the falcons they had like 10 Injuries mostly to starters so yes you were right to assume

>>77314059
Thomas is retiring a Brown. He has to.

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>>77312765

>>77313972
I don't think anyone would disagree. But that's a lot of money down the drain if he shits the bed.

>>77312910
That was hasselbeck and Rodgers, Warner spent time behind Eli cause muh franchise quarterback

>>77314059
Thomas has had numerous chances to sign with a contender but he always refused because he feels hopping a team just to chase rings is despicable and doesn't feel genuine. Guy was literally seething when they almost traded him to the Broncos a while back (they won the Owl that year).

>>77312905
he played more games as a cardinal than a ram

hes going in as both iircc

>>77314123
>elite player stuck on shitty team
>is a class act

Megatron pls learn from Joe

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>/nfl/ becoming more lively

It's almost time

>>77314143
Megatron is a class act, the browns are a good organization compared to the lions

>>77313294
Carr didnt have the best rushing offense in the nfl, so teams were defending the pass more often than not against the raiders while it was the complete opposite for the cowboys and besides nobody had film on Prescott or seek combined with that o line. But we will see how much better Carr does with lynch this season and how Prescott does without a defense

David Carr > Derek Carr

>>77314243
here's your (you)

>>77313853
How about the number one overall pick this year Myles Garret he's gonna be really fucking good btw he is compared to Von Miller

>>77314263
It's true though. David was far more talented hence why he got picked #1 overall, he just got ruined behind that non-existent Houston OL. Derek plays on a stacked offense.

>>77314276
Garret and Miller are both Aggies. Why is it A&M always produces such an unreal amount of talent but they never win anything in college?

@77314283
you got your (you) now shoo

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This year, Chiefs take the West.

>>77313866
They're actually pretty good on paper they could actually be in the playoofs and I wouldn't be surprised

>>77314302
Wrong

>>77314308
>>77313866
>>77313844
Jags and the Bucs are always the two teams everyone says to watch out for every fucking year, how talented they are, and they literally never do anything. I've been hearing about the Bucs being the "sleeper team" to make the playoffs ever since 2010, it never materialized. I guess it's a Florida thing.

>>77314308
If a team led by Blake Bortles made the playoffs, you would be the only human in the entire universe who registered zero surprise.

You and Bortles, tops.

>>77314297
Idk I think they just stack their defense

>>77313929
So?

>>77314374
It doesn't matter who they sign. If they magically get to six wins next year, management will pinpoint the best player on the team and trade him to Cleveland for 7 cents on the dollar, are all of you new.

>>77314381
Shittier QBs have made the playoffs in the past.

>>77314384
Offense too. You forgot Manziel and Evans?

>>77314374
bucs actually showed real progress last year though unlike the jags

I'm hesitant to call them a playoff team but I think they have that potential this year

>>77314433
They showed progress and missed the playoffs once again. And for the life of me I can't figure out why people call Winston a good QB, every single thing about that faggot is average.

>>77314374
Bucks actually did decent last season and what's gonna happen when all the old
Quarterbacks retire Brady, Ben, rivers, brees, Eli, etc. somebody's gonna fill the gap and jags do look good on paper and their division garbage so it's not that hard to win your blowing it out of proportion

>>77314446
well he's only like 23 years old, He still has a lot of time to improve

>>77314066

Haha he actually cited injuries after I mocked Hawk fans for crying about injuries literally every season bwaahahahaha

>Falcons, Saints, Panthers
All went to the Superbowl in the past 10 years.
>Bucs
Didn't make the playoffs since 2007.

>>77314432
You right

>>77309973
>tfw gf and i have a picture just like that one

>>77314462
>mentioning Rivers and Eli in the same sentence as Brady, Ben and Brees

>>77314472
Yeah it keeps super bowl contenders from actually making the Super Bowl that's why staying healthy is a teams top priority like look at what happened to the raiders in the playoofs, injuries matter baka

>>77314503
>I was grouping by age

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>>77314503

>>77314462
none of those old qbs play in the afc south

bortles SUCKS. He can not throw a football the right way and is a human turnover machine.

your defense can only do so much if you turn the ball over like crazy, jags are banking on fournette to carry the load and not be gurley 2.0

>>77314521

It's the NFL. Crying about injuries literally every single year is the most pathetic thing you can do.

>>77314531
Do you unironically believe Kirk Cousins to be better than Joe Montana?

>>77314531
>Below Romo

scrub

>>77314532
Their division is shit they dont have to be a fucking top 5 let alone top 10 fucking team to win it and they have made a lot of gains in free agency and have had high draft picks the past few years I'm not saying they are gonna be the best fucking team ever I'm just saying they're not gonna be the worst which is more than enough in that garbage division

>>77314582
Rivers and Ben were drafted in the same year

Cousins and Montana played in two completely different eras

>>77314582

Unlike Rivers and Ben the Rapist, they played in different eras.

>>77314531
>Daunte Cuckpepper
Any list that has that faggot chucker anywhere in the top 100 is not to be taken seriously. He was like those Rax Grissman memes but in real life, everything he ever did was going deep to Randy Moss.

>>77313698
>>77313878
>>77314199
>never get sacked
>still can't make good throws under practically 0 pressure
>just a checkdown babby
>paying an above average QB that much money
>Oakland
>the State of Derek Carr

I've never had less hype for the NFL year, lads. Cheatriots are going to assfuck the league this season and it won't be close. How are you bros holding up?

>>77314697
Patriots are always the worst when they're hyped to the stratosphere. Monster hype during the '07 season, then 18-1 happens. Another monster hype before the '08 season, then Brady gets hurt in game 1.

>>77314682
Yeah I was wondering why tf they chose pay him 5 years 125 million that's a little ridiculous for one good year but I guess we will find out if it was worth it or not

>>77314720

18-1 = the worst. Gaylord.

Seem to recall major hype when they signed Dillion in 2004 - won owl. Major hype when they signed Revis and Browner 2014 - won owl.

>>77314789
>major hype
>2014
Quite the opposite, nobody believed in them. Brady was coming off a shit season by his standards in 2013, everyone thought he's in the middle of a major decline. Then they completely fucked up the season opening by losing to both the Dolphins and the Chiefs by double digits.

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That feel when their 2014 match up in Green Bay may be the only time Rodgers and Brady compete against each other

>>77314834
them meeting in the 2014 owl would have been lit but the packers completely blew it in the nfccg

>>77314834
We will get a few Brady v Rodgers once Bill cuts Tom and he fucks off to the niners.

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When the fuck do we start to have fantasy threads

I'm tempted to make one now to start gathering up anons interested in fantasy, I made a league last season and was a blast with 11 other anons, want to do that again and maybe make a league with buy ins and prize, but WHEN

>>77315047
start threads once preseason begins

>>77314834
Packers secondary would give the game away no matter how many fireworks Rogers creates on his end.

>>77315047
i'm in i'm sure theres enough for a couple of leagues

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>>77314998

>Beat Patriots 53-45 in OT
>Beat Tennessee 24-7
>Lose to Seattle 24-16
>Beat Houston with the fucking eagles 22-10
>Lose to Chefs as Browns 16-7
>Win easily vs Gaints as Redskins 21-0
>Humiliatite myself by losing to Jacksonville as the Raiders, 17-13
>Humiliate Eagles 44-0
>Get BTFO by the same Seattle guy 42-17
>beat Chicago with the jest 7-0
>lose to Saints as Eagles, 34-8

God this game is all about luck and timing, I really hope Madden 18 is better, although it probably won't be

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>>77314881

Pats blew it in 2010. If you recall Green Bay almost won at New England with Flynn filling in for injured Rodgers (the O Lineman kick off return game). But that 2010 Pats offense was scary good. Think they may still be 3rd highest points per drive all time.

>>77315166
>still be 3rd highest points per drive all time.
2007 pats, 2011 packers and 2013 broncos have to be better at a minimum

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>>77315085
>>77315063
Alright, I'll start sending emails to team owners that were in my league, and start making threads next week. What does /nfl/ think is a good buy in/prize for a season? $5 buy in with $60 prize, or $15 for a $180 prize. I'll make free a league too though but that's less exciting.

>>77315225
>forgetting the 2011 Saints

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post yfw raiders-seahawks superb owl

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>>77314682

Only accepting the Word of Based Carr can free you of your anger, anon.

TYBC

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>>77315225
>>77315267

Nope. You could have simply look it up yourselves before claiming the guy who did before he posted about it was wrong.

2013 Broncos had 34 more drives than both 2010 and 2007 Pats.

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>>77315605
>tfw team's biggest accomplishment in the last 40 years is knocking off the 2010 pats

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>>77315467
Don't follow false prophets.
Worship the one true savior or suffer with glass femurs forever

Minnesota Vikings

>>77315844
have not been to a super bowl in 40 years

>>77315652
Pats Packers would have been a god-tier Owl, fuck you Justs

>>77314999
trips of truth

>>77315141
sounds like you need to git gud

>>77315983
No u

>>77315251
>betting on Football

Yes goy, make football all about money. There is no pride in winning, just in getting shekels

>>77316149
fuck off, non money leagues are full of people who quit by october
an incentive helps the league stay interesting

>>77312214
>Bortles

Providence Steam Roller=Old Bay falseflagging as a Lions fan

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The niners are winning 4 games this year!

>>77316256
This.
Also the wager has to be significant or people still bail out. $100 each in a 10 man is enough to keep everyone commited.

>>77310289

Yeah, he must have been talking about the score in the 4th Quarter. I had wondered but that is just what it looks like. That's the greatest laugh of all time.

>>77314999
I don't think there was any area that Wentz performed better than Prescott. Like none at all.

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The Chiefs have won 22 of their last 26 regular season games.

>>77316256
That's why I like to play with friends I know who are dedicated.

Then again, my leagues are only like four people, so different strokes for different folks

>>77316509
Terrible.

>>77316536
>four people leagues

fucking disgusting

>Ron Rivera wearing a T-Shirt that says "Control your ape"

What did he mean by this?

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>>77316559
Doing a small league with close yet dedicated friends is actually the best. We watch games together and shit, it's pretty fun.

>jets picked up whitehead

idk if this is good or bad for our special teams

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Would Unlucky Blackhead be a better name?

>2017
>caring about the Dallas Cowboys

>>77316961
america's team brah, they'll never not be the #1 cared about team

>people like the Cowboys
>they don't realize the entire organization it set up to print money, not to win championships

You'll never win a title, but enjoy your $9 beer.

>>77316978
>never win a title
>have 5

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>>77316306
5 my nigga. Meme magic guarantees our 1st game of the season, plus wins against the Rams. We can beat the Bears, and Watson's gonna bust, so we at least have a chance against the Toxins as well.

What the FUCK
I just read the whole story about the thing with Lucky Whitehead and the Cowboys?
How fucking stupid are the Cowboys?

>>77317065
LOL bears and 49ers. That a Monday night game?

>>77317341
He was gonna get cut anyway. Cowboys just decided to do it sooner rather than later after the false shoplifting accusation and it ended up looking bad.

>>77315880
It's kinda awesome that their first time back in a while will be a win with home field advantage

>>77317341
He was getting cut anyway

>>77316509
I member Chiefs games when you didnt know that they would win in the end. Less fun now desu unless it is a divisional game

Why are the Raiders so hyped this year and how disappointing will it be for them to go back to 8-8 or 9-7 or whatever?

>>77317614
because they're the new sexy team thats relevant for the first time in 15 years

its boring to hype perennial playoff teams like the steelers and chiefs

raiders are a breath of fresh air in a conference with not much turnover in recent years, so people want the raiders to be good.

When was the last time the Raiders had back-to-back winning seasons?

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>>77317065
Atleast the defense won't give up 200 rushing yards per game this season

>>77317645
>Chiefs
>perennial playoff teams
They've had one playoff win in the last 20 years, barely better than the Bengals.

>>77317614
Because their faggot fanbase always think they're world beaters even if they're actually bad, so when they muster up a double digit win season they suddenly feel like Superbowl is guaranteed.

>>77317645
The Chiefs went 20 years without back to back postseason appearances until last season, and 22 seasons without winning a postseason game until 2015. Hardly a perennial powerhouse.

>>77317690
>>77317695
I'm talking in recent years

chiefs have been in the playoffs 3 of the last four years

and I said perennial playoff team, not perennial super bowl contender.

>>77317690
I'm talking more about the media suggesting they're one of the threats in the AFC. Last year they won like 90% of one possesion games, that's not sustainable and they didn't get better by bringing Lynch out of retirement even though some talking heads act as if he's going to be back to his 2012 form.

>>77317710
The Dolphins don't get half the love the Raiders do and they were a bigger surprise last year.

>>77317748
you cant hype a team whos best possible outcome is making the wild card

So how is Aaron Hernandez doing in jail?

>>77317614
>expanding to a new market (Las Vegas) so media has to shill for them
>young and talented QB
>young superstar pass rusher
I also feel like a lot of the hype is artificial and underserved, by the way. They remind me a lot of the Chargers teams in the mid to late 2000s, overhyped to the stratosphere every year.

>>77317801
just hanging in there

>>77317676
The 49ers run defense was pretty bad if I remember correctly.

>>77317000
Nice trips. But like the $(ers they're not likely to win any more of them due to how they're run.

>>77317655
2001-2002

>>77317801
A year ago I joked he'd be out before Lexplorer.

>Raiders sign S Obi Melifonwu

>>77317853
Technically he was, unless they buried him in the prison.

Am I the only person in here who is neither a Pats fan nor a Pats hater? I unironically root for them every time they aren't playing my team.

>>77317837
maybe, cowboys seem good at acquiring talent, they just seem poorly coached. They've had good teams, everything just seems to go wrong in the playoffs.

>>77317885
most people are neutral towards the pats

the drama around them is so manufactured for headlines

>>77317837
t. someone still living in 2010

>>77317885
>rooting for teams you don't support

>>77317886
>Jason Garrett is still the Dallas Cowboys head coach

Is he becoming the next Marvin Lewis before our very eyes?

>>77317916
Marvin Lewis really isnt a terrible coach, hes just painfully mediocre

He rescued the bengals from hell, and now they're in purgatory.

Most active coaches would be exposed to be the same or worse than him if they coached as long tbqh

Retard fans always just think firing their coach will solve everything when it's usually a lot of reasons why their team sucks.

>>77317916
Well yeah. I'm a Saintsfag and I used to fucking hate the Rams, their subhuman bandwagon fanbase, Torry Holt, Cuck Warner, and how refs rigged shit in their favor every game. So I couldn't be more happy to see them on the verge of establishing a new dynasty and getting fucking clobbered by an underdog team from New England and never recovering from that. Warner left, Rams were literally never good again and a few years down the line they even left Shit Louis lmao. I guess most of /sp/ isn't even old enough to remember when the Rams were good and how annoying it was, Patriots will always be heroes in my book.

>>77317965
People don't think Marv is a "terrible" coach, just that he's had over a DECADE to get the Bengals a playoff win as HC and hasn't.

A lot of HCs don't get a decade+ with one team and not a single playoff win -- many don't even get half of that.

>>77317710
I want an AFC Championship personally, not just being a playoff team. If it can't happen sooner, I don't want Reid to be the coach anymore.

>>77317996
you're right

It is time to let him go, but the musical chairs the nfl has with head coaches is fucking stupid.

>>77317614
Funny that's exactly what I was gonna say about the cowboys

>>77317916
>>77317886
Garrett is fine. Cowboys are coming off a 13-3 season with a rookie at QB and RB. He just won COTY.

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>>77317853

>>77317965
I think Marvin would be a pretty good GM, he's shown for years that he knows how to build a roster and a good staff, but he's very limited as a head coach. I've mentioned here sometimes that the Bungles should've tried to send him to the office and let some of his coordinators (esp. Zimmer) take the coaching duties. Now it's too late obviously.

>>77318040
Mike Smith, Marvin Lewis, Ron Rivera (x2) have won CoTY in the last decade.

>>77317885
You're a Pats fan then idiot.

>>77317971
Rooting against teams is totally okay, and I'll always have a soft spot for the Saints after that one Owl.

>>77318063
Cowboys don't beat the Eagles last year without Garrett's gutsy playcalling. He's an upper echelon coach. If you fire him, who do you replace him with that would be better?

Wonder what'd it take for JDR to,get CoTY

>>77317996
>>77317965

I'm a big supporter of not changing coaches every 2-3 years if you don't win it all (or at all, I guess). What's funny about it is how willing these billionaire owners are to admit they're dumb. Bills ownership - every two years - yup, we fucked up and hired the wrong guy again! It's been painful to watch even as a division foe. If you believe in a guy enough to turn over your billion dollar franchise to him, stick with him for more than 2 seasons.

Specifically about Lewis, I don't know. I guess a case could be made competing with Pit and Balt has been tough. Those two teams have made it to the conference championship game 8 times in his time at Cincy. He's had more than enough time to win a playoff game, it's true. But I still wouldn't make a change for change's sake.

>>77318143
There is something to be said for more stability. Sometimes you feel like teams are just going for volume as if they believe if they try enough coaches they will find the right one just based on probability.

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MRW it's 2017 yet the Chiefs and Raiders don't have a QB who has thrown for 4,000 yards in a season.

Jason Garrett literally has more playoff wins than every other coach in the NFC East.

>>77318193
If you're a denverfag, you have no QB
If you're a LACfag, you have no CHANCE

>>77318106
>beating a team that was in the midst of a 2-9 streak is a great achievement

I don't know, you don't fire a coach who just went 13-3, but I don't know how anybody would say he's more than "middle of the pack". And it's not like Marvin has been awful, the comparison isn't unreasonable.

>>77318224
He's also been in place longer than the other three guys combined.

>>77318258
You might as well completely throw out teams records for NFC East games because they're always a dog fight.

>>77318412
That's what most teams say about their division games, but I'm not the one who brought Philly.

You take over the NFCE if you were armed with a brick tbqh

>>77318224
McAdoo and the Eagles coach just got there.

>>77313853

buy a retro Jim Brown jersey. or Garrett because he is future goat.

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Considering the Cowboys' turnaround seems incredibly related to Stephen Jones taking a more active role in running the team, I wonder what's going to happen when he assumes full control. What's it going to be like when Jerry finally dies and he's the owner?

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>cutest new girl on American tv
>from Cleveland, Ohio

don't be jelly

>Eagles trade Isaac Suemalo to the Broncos

>>77318670
Fake

>>77318615
remember that phrase that would always be thrown around? "Jerry the Owner should fire Jerry the GM" Well he is still the gm by name but Stephen pretty much takes over all GM duties. He helped build the coaching corps which in turn is drafting lots of home runs.

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This is a good bet

Evenin' niggers

Will Rashad Jennings be signed or is he done?

>>77318670
Correction! Eagles trade Allen Barbre to broncos

>>77318773
Idk, the jets roster imo in 2013 was worse and that one kicked the falcons ass on mnf

>>77318773
I think 2-14 is a safer bet.

Useless Observation of the Day:

Since 2005, in the 10 seasons Brady didn't win the Superbowl, the Patriots played the Superbowl winner during the Regular Season 9 times (2013 Seahawks only team that didn't). Pats are 3-6 in those games.

>Loins fan
>born in New England
>currently live in Giants territory

Who else is an out-of-market fan?

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>>77318795

Should slot right in at guard. Just need someone to step up at RT to solidify the OL for this year

>>77318850

>mfw jest fans thought that game was Geno Smith's coming out party and he was about to save the franchise

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>>77318876
>41% of Brady's seasons have ended in a trip to the owl

AFC wtf are you doing?

>>77318908

So wait - you were born in New England and got into the NFL when the Lions had femmy Barry Sanders and the Pats sucked, so being one of 'those people' you gave your loyalty to the Lions thinking it would be more rewarding than rooting for the hometown Pats?

There is no reaction image that could represent how hard I'm laughing at you right now.

>>77318935
>tfw the falcons franchcise will always be remembered for the biggest choke job of all time after lake and the other falcon cucks talked shit for weeks

>>77318950

When the Celtics won the 1986 NBA Championship they had won 40% of NBA Championships.

Then Len Bias died.

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>>77318957
The Pats were decent in the late 90s, I remember. They won the division a lot. The early 90s were the shitty ones.

I did fall in love with the Loins due to Barry, though. He was just too good. The '97 season (2,000 yards) is what got me.

>>77318621
I'm surprised there are actually white people left in Cleveland.

>>77319075

Yeah, late 90 Pats were great - tons of players who were still here in 2001, especially on Defense. I got into with a Boston Globe writer on Twitter awhile about how they can't admit they were wrong about Carroll when he was here. Guy made the playoffs his 1st 2 years with the Pats, and then went 8-8 in 1999. Which sure, 8-8 isn't good, but the AFC East that season was an obscene 49-31.

Herman Moore was otherworldly.

No Steelers posts at all? I guess our fans have less autism than I thought.

Anyway since it's a given we'll make the playoffs, the big question is what round will the Steelers lose to the Patriots in the playoffs this year? Wild Card? Divisional? AFC Championship?

...Why can't we beat them in the playoffs?

>>77319269
Because you're not good.

>>77319269
Your defense is Swiss cheese

It needs to get faster and show brady more looks

It did hurt when they lost bell, if they could run the ball game might have been closer. Still would have lost though

>>77319174
If Moore and Sanders were complemented by a Stafford-like QB, that would've been a helluva team

>>77319269
shit coaches and shit defense

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>>77314532
>It's a "Anon makes Bortles seem like he's literally the worst QB in history and can't pass a football at all" episode

Nigga threw 35 touchdowns in 2015. Stop acting like there's absolutely no chance for him to improve

The 2015 NFL MVP had a worse passer rating and completion rating than he did

I'm going to laugh so fucking hard when Bortles game manages Jacksonville to an 11-5 record on the easiest schedule in the NFL and everyone acts like this was some huge surprise when you play the fucking NFC West and the last place teams of the AFC West and AFC East.

>>77319395
He's a bottom 10 starting qb

He's a fucking bust who will never overcome his mechanical issues

The jags will win more games this year but only because of their defense.

>>77319395
He sucks, his 2015 wasn't even good, he put up numbers because he was trailing by so much every game and had to pass a lot, and he got bailed out by his WRs too much. He's trash.

>>77319436
More like bottom 5.

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>>77319462
>he was trailing by so much every game
Post your face when you realize the Jaguars only trailed by more than one score in the 4th quarter three times in 2015

>>77319488
15 minutes is plenty of time to rack up garbage tImev

>>77319436
>He's a fucking bust who will never overcome his mechanical issues
He did it in 2015 so he's clearly capable of doing it. There's a night and fucking day difference between 2015 Bortles and 2016.

The question is whether he's capable of cutting down on his turnovers with a literal Earl Campbell clone at RB

>>77319507
>Twenty-two of Bortles 35 touchdowns were thrown in games where the margin of victory was between zero and seven points with only five being thrown in games where the margin was 15+ points. Even if you include games that ended with a margin of victory between eight and 14 points, the grand total is only 13, which again is roughly one third of his total touchdown passes.

>>77319488
>Carolina
>New England
>Tampa
>Houston
>NYJ
>SD
>Tennessee
>NO
>Houston

Literally all these games saw Jacksonville down two scores in the 4th quarter.

>>77319515
He didn't play that much better, his WRs were catching difficult passes instead of dropping them. And he's the opposite of a game manager, he just slings it without care.

>>77319586
Houston is in the list twice because it happened in both games, btw.

Bortles played better than in 2016, but he didn't play well, he was turning the ball over left and right, throwing killer picks, taking 20 more sacks and making a lot of bad decisions.

>>77319586
Meant going into the 4th or something. Regardless Jacksonville was not playing garbage time as much as people think they were.

>He didn't play that much better, his WRs were catching difficult passes instead of dropping them.
As opposed to last year, where his receivers were literally kicking the ball into the other teams' hands, but I suppose planting the ball firmly into Allen Robinson's numbers and having the ball bounce off his chest into Tracy Porters' and Bradley Roby's hands is entirely Bortles' fault

>And he's the opposite of a game manager, he just slings it without care.
Literally any pro QB can be a game manager though. You make it sound like this is some unattainable fucking behavior and it's not.

God damn Spain you're such a fucking faggot about this right now