Pelé is a fraud

In other news, Michael Jackson died

>>77292082
So this isn't very new I guess?

>>77292677
Most non-American countries say Maradona is the best of all time.

>tf

Pelé was probably the greatest footballer of his era. He would also be considered above average nowadays.

>>77292710
You spelled Ronaldo wrong.

>>77292710
>Maradona

The true answer is Ronaldo

Romario tried to fraud 1000 goals as well

>>77292867
This.

For real though everyone knows Messi is on another planet

Who knows what Pele would be like if he came up through today's system.

>h-he only s-scored like 750 goals, scored thrice in world cup finals, one after lobbing a defender inside the box, assisted another 2 goals, won absolutely everything for Santos including 2 Intercontinental Cups against Milan and Eusebio's Benfica
>f-fraud

>>77292960
t. Spic

>>77292998
t. fatass

>>77292960
I rate Garrincha over Pele

>>77293017
I weight 170 lbs. mean while you are actually a wetback.

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The real GOAT

Gerd Müller was the best of all time and no one ever mentions him

>World Cup
>European Championship
>3 straight European Cups
>4 league titles
>653 goals
>scored more goals in two world cups than pele did in four
>ballon d'or

>>77291690
>bleacher report
that's about the most desperate reaching collection of words I've read outside of RAWK or redcafe

The whole 1200+ meme is stupid I agree but you can't say the Brazilian domestic game was shitty when it produced 75% of world cup winners throughout Pele's career.

In his era he was the best, not really any doubt about it.

3 world cups, 1 in his first professional years, 1 in the middle of his career and 1 towards the end.

No one else has done that.

>>77293087
you're a hipster

>>77293166
not even 4th best player on the 1970 team

>>77293177
Probably the greatest pure goalscorer of all time but that doesn't translate to GOAT player.

>>77293221

it makes for a good argument. before him and beckenbauer arrived Bayern Munich were trash tier 2nd division. within no time they turned them into champions and a european powerhouse

>>77293205
He didn't even play in 1962

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>>77293166
No this is the real GOAT

>>77293296
>lead Austria to 4 in 1934 WC
>would've won if it wasn't for Italian match fixing
>most prolific goal scorer of all time
>scored 5000 goals including friendliest, 800 official for the lower estimates
>fans would pack stadiums just to watch him train
>top European scorer 5 seasons in a row
>top league score 12 difffrerent times
>retired at age 42, older than most people Today
>8 time league champion
>lead Slavia Prague to their last ever league win in Czechoslovak league

>>77292960
He's not a fraud, but there were better players, thats all.
Maradona, Cruyff, Messi and fatnaldo were better.

>>77293398
Forgot one more
>had goal/game ratio of 1.53, either highest or second highest of all time

>>77293255
He played the first game, ran the show, scored and assisted in the second half
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3HCA7Ei2KAQ

He started the second game and tore a thigh muscle.

>>77293406
they weren't, but the most laughable one of all you put there is cruyff, it's almost insulting

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U2HWUbFGHMU

Maradona good.
Pele better.
George Best.

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>>77291690
>Most of his goals were scored in a shitty local league
>shitty local league

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>>77293177

>>World Cup
2 World Cup (3 consecutive finals)
>>European Championship
2 Copa America + 1 Confederations
>>3 straight European Cups
2 straight Libertadores + 1 MODERN Champions League
>>4 league titles
1 Brasileirao + 2 actual league titles
>>653 goals
>>scored more goals in two world cups than pele did in four
he was a defender
>>ballon d'or
Player with the most International titles in the history of football

>>77294390

Got a problem with that fact?

>>77293125
Wow, you really showed him who's the retard.
Nice one

>>77294319
are you going to watch the george best 30 for 30?

>>77291690
Debutó con un pibe y le pegaba a la jermu

ITT : teenagers who don't know what to do all summer

>>77292857
cuckold

>>77292867
clueless

>>77291690
Except some of those friendlies were against CL winners in at that time prestigious summer tournament.
>>77292960
Also this.

>>77291690
m8, all you have to do is watch a tape of one of his old games -- either the defense let him score (paid?) or the defense back then was laughable.

>>77291690
In other news Argentina invaded the Falklands

>>77293406
>Maradona
incredibly over-rated
as with Pele, all you have to do is watch old matches

>>77297652
>Maradona
>Overrated
A FUCKING LEAF everyone

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>>77297652
>the superstar makes other players look bad
rmyt