how didn't we win anything with this team lads?

Too many English players.

>scholes on the left wing

>>77286961
all of them were elite at that time.

prove me wrong.

Could never make Lampard, Gerrard, and Scholes work.

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>play in premier league
>talked about as some of the world's best players
>have to play outside the premier league
>shit

>>77286979
i'd go as far as saying its the best squad England have ever had on paper. even better than 66

lack of pacy negros

>>77286961

I miss these players

>>77286990
but 8 out of that starting 11 won the champions league at some point

>>77286989
Gerrard should have got the bench treatment.

>>77286990
Almost that entire team reached at least one Champions League final. Half of them even ended up winning one.

Because you're England.

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>>77287012
for whom?

>>77287024
hargreaves

>>77287028
t. bayern fan

i always liked hargreaves, but no way would i drop stevie g. also im not a scouser

>>77287012
>not Scholes

>>77287036
Hargreaves was very good in 2006. It was Gerrard who made the back pass howler against France in 2004

>>77287024
Butt, Hargreaves or Phil Neville.

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The 2004 euro and 2006 wc squads were really stacked, at least individually.
what went wrong.

England gets a lot of shit for being shit at the sport they invented but that generation had a lot of really good players.

>>77286961
Why would a midfield composed of Scholes, Lampard and Slippy G ever work? Why didn't they just bench Gerrard?
Half the time they didn't even know what to do with each other.

Also, where the fuck would you ever go with that liability as a keeper?

FFS

>>77287070
we wont see another england squad this good for at least another 35 years

>>77287024
>this bench is better than the current England XI

sad times

>>77287076
>Scholes
deep lying playmaker

>Lampard
attacking mid

>and Slippy G
box to box mid

>>77287076
David James was decent

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This lot would of done those prima donnas. Calamity James was always a liability.

>>77287070

We went out on pens both times to a very good Portugal side with the likes of Figo, Rui Costa, Deco, Carvalho etc.

I genuinely think we could have at least won the Euros if we'd won that shootout

>playing 4-4-2 with 3 CMs

noice

>>77287024
Joe Cole

>>77287084
>Scholes
>deep lying playmaker
Ok.

>Lampard
>attacking mid
He was very overrated at this.

>and Slippy G
>box to box mid
IMO, Lampard was much better at this at the time.

Face it, it was a mess in the center.
Might as well play Joe Cole as an attacking mid or Hargreaves near the line and dump Gerrard.

They had no depth in the lines whatsoever. They played with Beckam, but he couldn't perform that well on the line any more and he was a defensive mess.

>>77287088
Are we talking about Calamity James?
Yikes!

>>77287102
Yes, but that Portugal team was very unbalanced. We were lucky a few players were really world class.
We did bench Rui Costa for Deco and dropped others for Maniche and Costinha iirc.

That was the difference, you just couldn't drop muh Gerrard or other MC for the sake of the team.

>>77287036
But Hargreaves was the only one who delivered in 2006

>>77287102
>I genuinely think we could have at least won the Euros if we'd won that shootout
The Grease meme was too strong on that year

I'm still salty about Campbell's disallowed goal in 2004. There was nothing wrong with it.

>>77286961

Loser's mentality.

>>77287170
People used to say that about Spain, yet you guys got over that.

>>77286961
>becks trying to give a tough guy look
nuff said

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>>77287000

me too mate

>>77287084
>Scholes
>deep lying playmaker
U wot, he was basically a second striker, like Alli

Anglos are mental midgets

Same with Americans, Canadians and Aussies

>>77286961
>>77286961
>no Rio Ferdinand

>>77286989
Should of played 4-3-3

>>77287892
lol no he wasn't.

He scored goals by making late runs into the box or blooters.

Did you even watch him play ??

because the other teams beat you XD

>>77288465

Scholes was a lot more attacking in the early 2000s. It wasn't until around 2007 that he became a DLP

>>77286961
need more immigrants

There were many better teams. Brazil, Portugal, Italy, Argentina, France, these were all better than England on paper, and some choked even harder (argies).

>>77286979
>proof
They never won anything. They're all shite m8

Great team *on paper*
Shit chemistry though, and as football is first and foremost a social game ...

>>77286961
Not enough diversity

>>77287102
>if only we won that shootout!

You guys literally goof every single one

Between that and all the goalkeeping adventures I really think it's more mental than anything

>>77287906
>Messi says hi from the Copa America Final

>>77286961

No chemistry whatsoever, not really surprising when you think about it:

>Michael Owen
Manlet that no player would listen to
>Ashley Cole
????
>John Terry
Everyone was too wary of him shagging their wife
>Sole Campbell
Too soft spoken to be taken seriously
>Rooney
Too dumb
>James
The worst player of the lot
>Lampard
The only true Lion in the squad
>Gerrard
Scouser too distracted by the souls of the 96
>Scholes
Too autistic and aware of the quotes that will survive forever on Lad Bible
>Beckham
Too much of a celebrity to hang around with the others
>Gary Nev
Shit footballer who was only good at kicking legs in the premier league and getting away with it

>>77286961
lack of diversity

>>77286961
Actually a pretty good question.

Defense looks a little patchy, David James was pretty bad.

Gerrard and Beckham were woefully overrated, but Paul Scholes was certainly one of the finest footballing talents of all time. With Lampard, it's certainly a quality midfield.

Probably not a World Cup team, but definitely could have won the Euros. Especially considering that in 2004, Greece won, and Portugal was runner-up (Ronaldo still not in his prime at the time).

Safe to say they didn't live up to expectations.

>>77286961
Michael Owen was shite

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>>77288942
Who was the manager at the time?

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>>77288942
Even Ramos and Pique worked something out

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>>77289066
>Paul Scholes was certainly one of the finest footballing talents of all time

>>77289124
Yeah, he fucking was. Look him up.

>>77288942
>>Lampard
>The only true Lion in the squad
He was a Makelelebabby who statpadded with penalties. He was also partly responsible for not co-operating with Gerrard and pushing Scholes out to the wing.

>>77287100
>my old man used to talk lots of good about Chris Waddle

Was he right or insane

>>77288465
Yeah, in the CL he played as RVN's support, don't know how he played in England tho

>>77288585
Greece too

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>>77289154
>"I rate Paul Scholes!"

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>>77289124

>>77289171
>le stand around the goal as a midfielder instead of doing midfield things man while hard working negroes clean up all the shit man
>le compete with gerrard and rooney for space in the number 10 position man

You wonder why England didn't win anything?

Every fucking Midfielder they had was a wannabe CM/CAM clogging up the same part of the pitch.

>>77289124
>>77289208
>ABU revisionist history commences

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>>77286961
>Michael Owens fucked up legs and tiny feet

Too many whites on the team la.

>france 98

>argentina awarded a penalty 5 minutes in after refball
>shearer fires England back into it
>Michae Owen makes it 2-1 with a brave marauding run.
>Argentina score from another fucking set piece thanks to ref.
>simeone cheats Beckham out of tie and he gets sent off.
>england get robbed on pens
this was even before the golden generation, it get's even more ridiculous how fifa manage to rob us out of cups all the time.

>>77289262
>>Michae Owen makes it 2-1 with a brave marauding run.

Everyone was always afraid to even go near him he case he cartwheeled onto his ass and went begging for a penalty.

>>77286961
>gary neville
>wayne fucking rooney
team cancer, also using a 4 4 2 without wingers that actually make runs and don't try to meme it up passing instead.

>>77286961
The midfield got walked through because lampard and gerrard couldn't decide who had a bigger dick.

>>77289281
he did well to stay on his feet for that 2nd after Argies tried taking his legs.

Scholes, Gerrard and Lampard were unplayable but undroppable at the same time.

>>77286961

Too many black players

Italy won the world cup with zero blacks
Spain won the world cup with zero blacks
Germany won the world cup with 1 black

>ctrl+f
>Glenn Hoddle
>0 results

All of you are fucking morons. And I'm an American. Any Brit poster in here should be ashamed.

>>77289364
what? Sven goran Erikkson was in charge when the 'golden generation' broke through.

The core of team was split between arse, chelsea, and united players. It must have been very difficult for them to try to put club rivalries behind them.

>>77289312
Rooney was great in 04

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Honestly?

Too many white players. You can't win with that many white players because their foot speed is so slow. Fortunately that won't happen with England now with World Class players like Sterling, Alli, Rashford, Lingard, Walker, etc

>>77289515
>it's another American obsessing over race before tottering off to watch interracial cuckold porn

>>77289460
I never said he wasn't, was saying he's too fucking stupid to contribute anything to team cohesion. pace and a shot can only get you so far

>>77289343
NO! Owen is just a wanker. It was so satisfying when Liverpool won the CL the year after he fucked off. He's a piece of shit for signing with United.

>>77289545
>Its another middle class poof who has never seen a nigger in real life, but still pretends he knows about racial cohesion

>>77286961
They were all overrated, never played in good leagues and sticked to their babbyleague.

>waaaaah we didn't win anything despite our amazing roster

Tell it to Brazil '82

>>77289607
Nah, where I'm from blacks and whites generally integrate quite well. tends to be pakistani's that don't do too great.
>He's not a insecure faggot so i must be a middle class poof
good one lad.

>>77289654
>>77289654
>Acknowledging that niggers work less while committing more crime means you're insecure
Being able to keep your head firmly buried in the sand is a real virtue right?

>>77286961
Shit kits.

>>77289715
How is this related to English football?

>>77289715
go back to /pol/.

>>77289743
It shouldn't be, but thanks to cunts like you niggers now get to pretend that they're English.
>>77289751
Right after you return to reddit or tumblr.

>>77286961
Mediocre goalkeeper
No defensive midfielder

Scholes, Gerrard, and Beckham were all ball deliverers with Lampard goalhanging all game. The "golden generation" got torn apart by counter attacks.

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>>77289545
American sports don't racial quotas for youth players like European sports do.

>>77289778
>Right after you return to reddit or tumblr.
you sure got me. sick burn.

>>77289778
How is the black crime rate related to the England national team?

>>77289751
muh /pol/ bogeyman

>>77289850
yawn, since when did /sp/ get so shit?

>>77289827
Sorry I wasn't able to reach the heights of your "go back to /pol/." quip.
>>77289843
The Yank was just shitposting. You decided to tumblrpost at him before replying to me with some Guardianista tier wankery. If you don't want to get called out on your faggotry don't try to police others.

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>>77287223
And all they needed was the best midfield in the history of this game

>>77289620
As it has been said before, nearly everyone in the pic has won a CL.

>>77289915
wasn't a quip. was a suggestion. If you're so obsessed over it, go talk about it where someone gives a shit.
>You decided to tumblrpost at him before replying to me with some Guardianista tier wankery.
it's common knowledge Americans love their cuckold porn. it was obviously a joke.

>>77289915
I have made 2 posts in this thread, both of which were asking you questions which you've avoided in favour of /pol/ buzzwords. This is why people dislike you - because you define yourselves by your beliefs. You see a black footballer and start talking about crime rates. Most people aren't anti /pol/ per se, they're anti-/pol/tards because you embarrass yourselves in almost every thread.

>>77289187

He was right. Waddle was quality

>>77289262

Don't forget Campbell's wrongly disallowed goal. Twice he got fucked over when he should have had 2 match winners.

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>>77289915
I was quoting Lavar Ball who said his son's basketball team didn't win because they have too many white players and that their foot speed is too slow.

The people who replied to me are just pico ballers.

English don't have winning in their blood

>>77289187
Waddle was excellent. Same for Hoddle and Beardsley.

Forgotten English greats desu

>>77286961
Well right off the bat I can see 2 and a half reasons why

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*blocks your path*

https://youtu.be/UdtDsto4gJk
> Rui GOAT

>>77290214
*wins a penalty shootout*

>>77286961

>rooney
>slippy G

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literally who can stop us now?

>>77290304
slippy g was unironically good in 2004

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>>77290310
no idea

>>77290497
>best league
uhhh I think you mean "most entertaining"