/nfl/ general - HIPSTER edition

>Rivera surprised
Carolina used to have a good front office

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Go Hawks.

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Make way for the GOAT WR

>inb4 mossfags

>>77200097
>top 15 QB
you're top 5-6 in the league or you're nothing.

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>>77200097
Who will shill this shitty pizza this year, or will Papa John parade around PeyPey's corpse while not paying his workers?

>tfw almost 2 weeks until HoF game

Also, do you think the Patriots will win another Owl before Brady/Billy Boy retire?

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seventh for blounts thick ass

>>77200119
literally no one thinks Moss > Rice

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>>77200131

>>77200131
no

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>>77200119
Quiet, young one.

>>77200131
yep. this year

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>all these nano ballers sleeping on the Loins

Stay in your lane

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>>77200146
DELET THIS!!1

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is it safe to come out yet?

>>77200157
whos that

>>77200168
>nanoballers
Take that shit back to /nba/

>>77200125
>top 15 QB

Why not just say "Top half."

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>>77200157
not even close, but here's a webm

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>>77200119
That's not Don Hutson

>>77200179
BABY BALLER ALERT

>>77200097
Ironically, this is exactly the type of guy the NC legislature is currently trying to legislate against.

>>77200187
shut up, ancientfag

>>77200187
>lions fan proclaiming a packer as GOAT

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>>77200178
The true GOAT WR.

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>>77200202
>/pol/

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>>77200179
Micro baller alert!

>>77200212
>>77200207
GOATs transcend time and team affiliation.

>the panthers interim GM will be Marty Hurney, the guy who Dave Gettleman was hired to replace

Can someone explain what the panthers are doing?

Post predictions for your first round rookie.

>Giants
>Evan Engram
700 yards and 8 TDs.

>>77200228
>the lakers win the summer league
>the lions went 4-0 in 2008 preseason

is lonzo the next stafford? Will he never win a playoff game?

>>77200249
Crashing this team...with no survivors

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>>77200268
Only a nano baller could say something so stupid.

>>77200263
>Mike Williams
>Really hard to say since I don't think he'll even practice; 800-1000 yds, 6-8 TDs

>>77200263
>Derek Barnett
some tackles and sacks maybe

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Name a more delusional sports community

>>77200263
>Jarrad Davis
DROY or we cut him immediately

this lions trip is a bottom five poster in these threads. what happened to the leaf lion poster?

>>77200307
Cowboys fans

>>77200307
>(((SB Nation)))

Anon, I...

>>77200318
the leaf lions poster was worse than the trip.

>>77200119
>stickum

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>>77200307
pls dont bring in delusion discussion, u meanies have given this eagles fan enough traumatic memories

>>77200318
Leaf lion is actually my favorite. He still pops in now and then.

>>77200168
>/nba/ bringing their shitty memes here
Please go

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>>77200354

Remember in 2012 when it seemed the Chargers were gonna win the Super Bowl and Rivers was gonna finally get his ring.

>>77200307
Eagles fans

>>77200318
old bay and that edgy leaf spartan are by far the worst two

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>This guy walks in and runs for 300 yards and 2 scores on your gf
>Keep in mind he's 240lbs and is a regional champion sprinter
what do

>>77200411
tell him to look me in the eyes

>>77200411
dubs and fournette dislocates his ankle in preseason

>>77200411
laugh at him for being on the Jags

I actually kind of agree with Vick's comment. Kaepernick should trim that jew-fro asap

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>>77200411
>mfw 3-13 again

i refuse to have hope anymore

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>>77200379
lets be honest rivers and that whole organization were broken after this

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200 Days until the Seahawks win Super Bowl LII.

Can someone explain to me like I'm retarded what a franchise tag is? I read the Wiki article but I'm still confused.

>>77200476
And firing Marty after going 14-2, THE BEST RECORD IN TEAM HISTORY.

>>77200498
it means u get to be someones bitch

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daily reminder that if that loser gostowski hit this extra point the pats would have 3 straight lombardis

>>77200498
Teams can retain control of a player for another year by placing a tag on them before they hit the market.

The tag costs an average of the top 5 players at the position, so it's only used on very good players.

It's an incentive for players to work out long term deals and stay with the teams that drafted them.

>>77200533
>you now remember the pats went 10-0 and finished 12-4.

I really cant believe they gave away homefield advantage.

>>77200556
fucking dolphins

>>77200488
Make sure to run it when you're on the 1 yard line

>>77200533
>muh pats dont win enough

>>77200533
I'd take the 2015 Panthers over the 2015 Pats.

>>77200488
It's a 1 year contract. The player gets payed I think whatever the average for a top 10 (5?) player at his position gets. All guaranteed. i think the player has to accept it or not play more or less. It's for when you want to keep a player a year longer. Usually to work out a long term contract or at least try. Every team gets one franchise tag a year to use on a player.

>>77200579
whoops
>>77200498

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*blocks your path*

>>77200610
*barrel over him cause he's dumb enough to be in front of me during a play*

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>>77200448
>Blackmon comes back in phenomenal football shape
>Styles on his way to 2,000 receiving yards and an Owl

Just post with who has the better season this year on your gut instincts
>mariota or winston
>carr or rivers
>bears or niners
>OJ Howard or Fournette
>Stafford or Dak
>bengals or texans
>flacco or eli
>who wins the NFCE
>russ or cam

>>77200786
>Winston, but both will great
>Carr
>Niners
>Fournette
>Stafford
>Texans
>Eli
>Giants
>Russ

>>77200786
>Winston
>Rivers
>Bears
>Fournette
>Stafford
>Bengals
>Eli
>Giants
>Russ

>>77200786
>Winston
>Rivers
>Niners
>Fournette, rookie tight ends usually always suck
>Dak
>bengals
>flacco
>cowboys duh
>russ

>>77200786
>Winston
>Carr
>Niners
>Fournette
>Stafford
>Bengals
>Eli
>Redskins
>Cam

>>77200786
>Winston
>Carr
>Niners
>Howard
>Stafford
>Bengals
>Eli
>Giants
>Russ

>>77200130
JJ Watt was already doing commercials

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y2OUghNDzFE -MSM sleeps on it -Texans defense - Marriota with that o-line -Doug Marrone/Jalen Ramsey is based - Colts bootycheek, still have Luck

>>77200912
this is how I think the average texans fan looks like

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it's finally /ouryear/

>>77200970
le tired afc east is wide open reply

More Alpha than you? lol. Not a Texans fan or any fan of the AFC South. I gamble on the NFL and make money, fuck your feelings. YouTube.com/nflpodcast

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this event triggered me more than other event sans 9/11. fuck you pagano.

>>77200875
>>77200842
>>77200821
>>77200814
>>77200799
lemme say mine
winston because of his weapons now
rivers because its just gotta happen before he retires
niners because its 50 50
OJ because he's the best player in the draft
Stafford because dak is gonna get game planned and suffocated
bengals because B.O.B. is getting fired mid season
eli again because of his weapons
giants because of above
cam because russ is just due for things to go wrong

>>77200556

easily the worst coaching year BB has ever had.

>that onsides kick against philli that let them back into the game
>pussing out against the jets in OT and giving them the ball
>taking knees versus the lolphins in the second quarter

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Give me one reason why >we aren't gonna win the owl this season.

Pro tip: you can't

>>77201063
I'll give you a few
>Patriots
>Raiders
>Chiefs

>>77201035
yeah, If they had home field they would have had destroyed the broncos and probably would be three peating as much as I hate to say it.

But I can't even make a case for any team in the afc having a chance against them so they have a very good chance of making it 3 of 4. Only the 2004 and 2007 Pats team seem more loaded than they are right now.

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>>77201063

Because Jacksonville can load up the box and Ramsey can cover two of your receivers at once like he literally did last year

Titans receivers are fucking terrible

>>77201035
>because dak is gonna get game planned

yes because teams weren't making game plans for him before

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>>77201063
>>77201080
Gotta hand it to you guys, you've really gotten bold in the last couple years. Hope it doesn't sting to badly when the Colts return to bootyblast your shit franchises. Big Dick Ballard is putting the roster in order.

>>77201107
just a feeling bro. one of the double dragons is going down this season. and those we have all seen a QB start to get a little to dependent on the roll outs over the season. then its all he has. then he starts getting spied. and so on and so forth.
fucking cowboys fans. you cant even make honest hypothetical criticism.

dak on the other hand could go to the NFCCG this year. neither would surprise me. he looked great last year. but that nigger was getting really lucky with at least 2 or 3 rollouts a game saving a drive or at least keeping it alive.

>>77201146
Dak will probably regress but your reasoning was fucking moronic

everyone gets game planned

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>>77201127
>colsts

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>>77201157
youre right. game planning against a specific QB his sophomore year after having his rookie year tape on file will make no difference against a different schedule.
Wentz>Dak as far as franchise QB's go.
Giants are taking the division.
Zeke is getting suspended.
Dez is overrated and gonna tear apart that locker room once he starts seeing less and less looks.
Lucky Whitehead is gonna disappear mid season on a fucking homeward bound journey to recover his lost dog and end up 3,000 miles away in the CFL.
Fuck you
>please giv Frederick and Switzer

The AFC South is objectively the worst division in football.

>>77201207
god again you're fucking retarded, they were already game planning against him

it's not like Russell Wilson suddenly went to shit his second year once teams had film on him

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>>77201184
>jasg

>>77200786
Mariota
Rivers
Bears
Fournette
Dak
Texans
Eli
Giants if Elliot gets anything more than 2 games
Russ

>>77201035
>Stafford because dak is gonna get game planned and suffocated
The only way you can gameplay against Dak is if you stuff the run completely while simultaneously cover every receiver AND get to Dak fast. Dak doesn't have visible weaknesses the likes of other rookies. Lets not forget that now with a new year Dak probably is starting to get tailor made offensive schemes for himself, more play actions, more read options, etc. All that supposed "tape" teams have on will be outdated with Dak running new types of offensive play
>>77201146
Outside of the few read option plays Dak Prescott was primarily using Tony Romos playbook which didn't feature very many bootlegs or roll outs.
>>77201157
>Dak will probably regress
What is with this meme? Why do people suddenly think Dak will have a sophomore slump and regress? What magical happening will cause that because a year wiser and a full offseason of playing 1st team reps only means he is going to be better. His numbers in some areas may deviate slightly but that doesn't mean it's a regression.
>>77201207
>Wentz>Dak as far as franchise QB's go.
lol. If we talk about tape lets talk about how Wentz got figured out 4 weeks into the season, because guess what, it turns out he showed lots of signs of being a rookie (unlike dak) He had trouble progressing deep through reads, he had a tendency to bullet lots of passes to WRs running intermediate routes which in turn created drops, he had a tendency to stick to his 1st read even if that WR was covered which in turn caused more drops.
>Giants are taking the division
Yea very possible if they can bring that horrible offense last year back to 2015 levels.
>Dez is overrated and gonna tear apart that locker room once he starts seeing less and less looks.
Dez being a locker room cancer is a myth just like sophomore slumps
>>please giv Frederick and Switzer
nevar!!!

>>77201184
Thanks for Branch

>>77200786
>Winston
>Carr
>bears
>fournette
>dak
>dam
>cowboys
>russ

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>>77201127
Sick roast, my friend

>>77200799
>Eli as well

>>77201564

>Overpaying for a medicore situational pass rusher

You're welcome?

>>77201520
Dak was the third best qb in the league last year, and while I really like him I don't think he'll keep that up.

Dak could still be really good without being top 5

>>77201045
The raiders this season built a defense and have 2 rbs and good o line I and they play the pats well so I'm betting on them desu

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>>77201520
nah tiki I can stand you as a boys fan.
youre guys chances are good this year. its gonna be great to watch. the fuck is going on with zeke though? need to put a leash on that nigger.
I still think the NFCE is gonna be the best division in the NFL this year. and the boys have a chance.
the pass rush isnt that bad as everyone makes it to be. I actually like carr in the secondary just because he knew his job.
you guys are gonna live and die by that defense but really no matter what we all say here, eagles giants skins or boys could take that division and no one really knows. its like the NFCW a few years ago with all those stacked defensive teams except opposite.

>>77201624
That's completely understandable I don't think he will have as good of a season as his rookie one either. Lets just stop calling it a "Regression" please

>>77201656
Zeke is a party guy and both age and getting in trouble will stop that unfortunately. Although he hasn't done anything wrong he certainly hasn't helped his case by being at the wrong place at the wrong time on several occasions during this whole NFL investigation into his alleged domestic abuse case (which shouldn't even be going on right now since there is nothing there). The Cowboys pass rush is going to be better without a doubt. This is a team that was quietly top 15 in sacks last year and that is sack totals that was spread throughout the entire team with no true pass rusher. Now with Taco AND a supposed almost fully healthy Jaylon Smith? This Cowboys Front 7 could be one of the best in the league this season. The Run D portion of it is already top Notch with Sean Lee and Anthony Hitchens being some of the best run stuffing lbs in the NFC. I disagree with you on the Eagles being in contention for the division, at least for this year and maybe next. Wentz I figure will be better this season if his line stays intact and with some reliable receivers but he still has a bunch of rookie kinks to sort out.

>>77201790
no way. eagles could take it easy. also yeah the cowboys drafting has been impeccable for the last 3 years. makes me sick. I forgot about jaylon entirely.
I wanted to argue about the secondary and sean lee.
but I still believe in lee. and witten. and to a point collins.
>randy gregory

>Zeke causing controversy, gets in a fight at the club
>Lucky Whitehead's dog gets stolen by some goofy local rapper character
>Dak 2goody2shoes4u doing make a wish stuff for ESPN
>T Dub straight footracin niggas at the scrip club

Cowboys 2017 dropping the hottest Netflix pilot episode ever

>>77201870
The Cowboys Hard Knocks would be the most watched Hard Knocks ever

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>>77201590
>mfw i'm scared of de pusy

>>77200119
Moss is not greater than Rice, but Moss was a better receiver. As in, if I could draft any recievers of all time, I'd pick Moss first

>>77200187
There's a lions trip now? Also my computer died so I will only be phone posting

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>>77201882
>some dude takes your doggo
welp, gonna have to murder a few people now

>>77201207
>Dez tearing apart the locker room bc of fewer looks

Did you watch a single cowboys game last year? Dez was hurt for a chunk of the season but he really isn't the same guy that he was when he came into the league. Dude has matured a lot and was a huge presence/leader on the sidelines when he was hurt. What are you basing this "prediction" off of?

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GOAT RB checking in

>>77201624
The thing I like the most about Dak is that he seems allergic to turning the ball over. He's like Rodgers in that he'd rather take a sack than throw a pick. An anti-Favre, if you will. It's a good trait for a quarterback to have.

>>77201919
Dez is maturing into the "groundskeeper mentor from Rudy" stage in the evolution of the angry black football player

>>77201923
That's not 4net?

>>77201928
the groundkeeper mentor from rudy didnt start any shit in the locker room

>>77201919
I like to think the Cowboys will be able to handle Zeke simply because of how successful they've been at getting Dez to mature.

>>77200249
NFL owners are billionaires. They are used to thinking they are the smartest guy in the room. Some of them are smart enough to step back and let other people make the football decisions. Others cannot deal with any degree of insubordination from their front office.

The rumor is that Gettleman pissed off Jerry Richardson (the owner of the Panthers) by the way he handled the Josh Norman situation. Combine that with a disappointing 2016 season, and that was all the excuse he needed to send him packing. Even if it was an extremely stupid decision. He's probably bringing back Hurney because he liked playing golf with him or something, not because of his GM skills (where he constantly fucked up much worse than Gettleman ever did).

>>77201915
The story on it was his ex gf stole his dog, sold it to some rapper for 20 grand, and then that rapper was gonna give the dog back but he wanted his 20k back. So the thot was the reason for that debacle

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Touchdown superbowl!

>>77202028
The lesson from all this is that women are garbage and a man's dog is the only being in the universe he can truly love.

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The Chiefs

>>77200263
>chiefs
>kareem hunt
1250 yards, 14 tds

>>77201035
joe mixon is the best player in the draft bud

>>77200263
>Panthers
>Christian McCaffrey
750 yards 6 TDs

>>77202049
you got it pepo

>>77200263
>Falcons
>Takk McKinley
3.5 sacks

I am upset right now. I knew letting Vasey Hayward go was a bad decision but I couldn't trash it as much at the time. In person I congratulated a Charger's fan for the pickup but if we kept him we'd have another ring

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>>77201923
Literally wrong

>Getting in fights with DJs
>Foot racing people outside of strip clubs
>Driving 100 mph on the freeway
>Rappers stealing your dog

If this an accurate representation of what life is like in Dallas?

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Just finished watching 2015 and 2016 NFL highlights for each team, here's (at least) one positive for each

>Giants: Landon Collins is the best defensive player in the NFL right now
>Eagles: Fletcher Cox is underrated as fuck
>Redskins: Jordan Reed is a Hall of Famer waiting to happen
>Cowboys: The last offensive line I saw this dominant in the running game was the 2006(2007?) Jaguars. Holy shit

>Falcons: 28-3 wasn't as bad as 18-1
>Panthers: James Bradberry is a definitive #1 cornerback and Panthers fans should be happy they picked him up
>Saints: Michael Thomas has deceptively good fundamentals, definitely faster than a 4.57
>Bucs: Jameis Winston is the guy. Maybe not a Pro Bowler but he can win with the right tools

>Cardinals: David Johnson is better than Ezekiel Elliot
>Rams: I really, really like Maurice Alexander
>Seahawks: Doug Baldwin is unathletic as fuck but he's going to play for +8 more years because of how fundamentally sound he is
>Niners: Jimmie Ward hits hard as fuck for a corner

>Lions: Golden Tate is underrated, reminds me of Steve Smith with how full of himself he is and I love it
>Vikings: Adam Thielen bailed Bradford out so much last year, textbook Patriots-esque receiver
>Bears: Willie Young either ragdolls someone, or gets ragdolled, gets back up, and ragdolls them. fantastic motor
>Packers: We will never see ball placement like Aaron Rodgers ever again

1/2

>>77202443
>>Falcons: 28-3 wasn't as bad as 18-1

You poor losers. http://archive.boston.com/sports/football/patriots/articles/2008/01/21/brady_spotted_in_what_appears_to_be_walking_boot

>>77200263

Brandin Cooks 88 catches 1600 yards 25 TDs

Come on now he was basically our 1st round pick and he's only 23.

>>77202443
>Falcons: 28-3 wasn't as bad as 18-1

yeah it was a whole hell of a lot worse, that was a hard fought game until the last pats drive after the Tyree catch, the Falcons did fucking nothing in the second half, and while it was a choke, there is no arguing that the Falcons choke wasn't harder, no other team in nfl history had lost a playoff game when leading by 15, or i think 16 it was, previous teams were 93-0

>>77200556

There was no urgency about it either coming down the stretch that season. Was very weird.

>>77202449
> Whitney Mercilus might even be better than Clowney, and Clowney is a great pass rusher
Maybe, but Mercilus has more experience, and wasn't hampered by injury at the beginning of his career. We'll see how it pans out. Personally, I don't think Mercilus is as clutch.

>>77202473
>what is the comeback
The Bills came back from a 32 point deficit in the playoffs you're thinking comebacks in the Super Bowl

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>>77202513
oh shit, you right, i paraphrased a little,

People should be afraid of the Cowboys. How good they are has always been directly proportional to how many crazy people are on the team.

The 90s Cowboys are back.

>>77202545
to be fair I don't think many 19 point comebacks in the 4th have happened period let alone in the playoffs

>>77202568
Still tho, the Falcons choke was fucking embarrassing.

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rlly makes you think

>>77202640
Jesus Christ why did the Jets take Hacknburg. His only yes's are actually bad ones considering what the no's are.

>>77202640
>win 23 games
what a weird number

>>77202651
>Jest
is that even a question?

>>77202640
The weird flaw here is that Cook hits alot of those, but isnt that good.

Also, honestly Hack>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jared Goof

>>77200222
>pcuget

>>77200263
>Lolphins
>Charles Harris
8 Sacks, and or, is good enough to allow the DT side of Suh to get through, or holds on 1-1's enough to make the D-line go top 5 tier

>>77200131

Belichick will retire as soon as Satan comes for his soul, so they've got a decent chance of it. As for Brady... if he doesn't get another in the next two years I think age will catch up to him and his window will close. I don't think he'll Elway/Manning his way into a title at the end though because I don't think his team can carry him.

>>77202193
Why so low?

>>77203583
they'll split up his carries with Stewart and maybe Samuel

>>77202640
How the fuck did Dak drop so far?

>>77201897
Moss was lazy and, despite having tremendous talent, risked being a prima donna who would do nothing all season. (See his stint in Oakland and Tennesee)

Jerry Rice worked his ass off into his 40s for shitty and good teams equally. (See his stints in Oakland and Seattle)

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>>77201923
That's just untrue

>>77200136
>the face of a man that's going to BTFO the league in his sophomore year

>>77200786
>ota
>car
>4net
>staff
>bengals
>eli
>1.giants 2.eagles 3.cowboys 4.skins
>russ

>>77201227
This.

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>>77203706

Yeah it's funny being a Pats fan watching all the love for Moss from other Pats fans. 2007 was great fun but we also added Welker and Stallworth to a team that was one Reche Caldwell drop away from most likely winning the Superbowl. But you know what's more fun than that? Winning championships. It was clear that when they finally let him go early in the 2010 season the culture of the locker room had changed. And he wasn't even like an overt problem, everyone liked him and he was productive. It just wasn't the same kind of team.

I have no problem with saying Rice was the best WR, but it's weird that people appreciate Montana was the biggest system babby of all time but Rice's production never gets the same status. (Before anyone says Brady is GOAT system babby keep in mind Belichick made the playoffs once in seven seasons without Brady and the team that went 16-0 failed to make the playoffs without him.)

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Whats the RARE of the NFL?

>>77204698
>Brady isn't a system babby
kek

>>77203651
1. The DUI
2. Played in a meme offense in college and had never even taken a snap under center before

It's easy in hindsight to question why he fell so far, but at the time he simply seemed like a slightly better version of Tebow.

>>77204698
Montana won two owls before Rice and a super bowl with Walsh

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>>77204789

It's funny because everyone knows your gay but you.

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>>77204988

> Montana won two owls before Rice

Exactly my point

>and a super bowl with Walsh

Assume you meant Seifert (he won 3 with Walsh prior to the 1 with Seifert). I said system babby, not a coach babby. Seifert was the Defensive Coordinator before taking over for Walsh. Holmgren was the QB Coach under Walsh, then moved to Offensive Coordinator under Seifert - running Walsh's West Coast Offensive system.

Montana's replacement then went on to be more productive than Joe running the same West Coast Offense.

>>77204953
what was meme about it?

>>77204706
Whitepilled loins fans

>>77204953
>slightly better version of Tebow.
t. someone who didn't watch any of his games and is talking out his ass

>>77205474
Loins fans are whitepilled, blackpilled, and redpilled at the same time.

>>77205843
Don't forget cyanide pilled!

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>Panthers finalizing deal to re-hire Marty Hurney

Someone please put a bullet in my skull

>>77206053
Gimme 5 hours

>>77206053

>Official

Fuck it, who wants to go to Lake Norman to commit a group suicide?

>>77206053
Rooney rule

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Could someone explain to me the Vick and kaepernick situation? Cause I feel like its something retarded.

>>77206305
Vice just made comments on the Kaep situation on SKEEEEUUUUPPPP's show.

>Jaguars' Dante Fowler was arrested at 9:02 p.m. Tuesday in his hometown of St. Petersburg, released on $650 bond at 1 a.m. this morning ...

>>77205163
>Steve Young more productive than Montana

I'm fucking done.

>>77206788
glad the jags passed on Leonard Williams

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Finally

>>77202653
It's means they had a >.500 W/L record over 3 years.

>>77206968
Over 4 years considering colleges teams used to have 10 or 11 games a year when parcells was a good coach

>>77206872
Making room for our dynasty. I like the foresight.

>>77206822

Youngs QB Rating after he took over for Joe was 101.4. Montana's for SF was 93.5. Add to that Young ran for a hell of a lot more yards / TDs, not sure where your confusion lies. I'm guessing somewhere in your brain.

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>>77202640

Kind of laugh at this. It's like "How to judge a player if you are unable to tell how good he is by watching him play."

>>77207492
theres been a steady passing inflation though ever since the 70's

For instance,

the year Montana was drafted, 1979 average Passer Rating was 67.8 and passing yards per game was 180.4

in 1994 when he retired it was up to an average passer rating of 76.7 and 213.6 passing yards per game

Not to mention Young bombed out in tampa bay, where as Montana took the chiefs to an afc championship game.

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>being a Panthers fan right now

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nfrk2UdEOcQ>>77207558

>>77207558
>Young bombed out in Tampa Bay
where he was a newb on a shit team, while Montana was a hardened veteran when he went to KC. what do you expect?

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>>77207574
>fire GM for getting you into salary cap hell by overpaying mediocre players
>hire new GM whose entire thing is that he's pure business and an excellent money manager
>does exactly what he's hired to do and brings the team well under the salary cap while also facilitating the best 3 year run in the history of the franchise and a super bowl appearance
>get fired anyway
>they rehire the idiot who got them into salary cap hell in the first place when two big-name aging players are looking for contract extensions

hahahaha what the FUCK

hey kind of new to watching american football (just immigrated from austria), what's with all the brady shit I keep seeing? has he won a lot of superbowls?

>>77207670
no

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>the answer is five

>>77207670
no he's just a meme

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me (on the left) versus pats haters (on the right)

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>>77207670
yes

basically this:

He's the greatest quarterback of all time, but there are still lots of "misguided" people out there who don't believe that he is.
He's won five Super Bowls (the NFL championship,) more than any other QB, and all but one other player, period. Despite being old, he seems to be aging like fine wine, and just last year set an NFL record with 28 touchdowns (passing scores) vs. 2 interceptions (passing takeaways.) And he still has more left in the tank.

tl;dr
success breeds jealousy, and Brady has had a LOT of success


>>77207694
TSST

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>Detoilet had playoff APPEARANCE banners up

Oh my

>>77206788
>$650 bond
He probably just got drunk and yelled at someone on the street
It's literally nothing

>>77207704
>hunting your own kind

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>>77207750

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>>77206788
Training camp starts, Offseason ends, and the sorrow begins.
Real fans were all expecting it.

>>77205586
t. Idiot
His throwing numbers were garbage and he ran a shit ton

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>>77207794

>>77207785
Some pedestrian told him his driving was shit so Fowler got out of his car, beat him up, destroyed his glasses, and threw his shit into a lake nearby.

>>77207670

this is what I mean about "misguided"
>77207794

>>77207780
Thats just sad

>>77207812
Oh yeah and the pedestrian was 55. Pussy better be cut by the end of the day.

>>77207832
sadder than an "AFC Finalist" banner?

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>moronic tripfags shit themselves over the most immemorable mention of brady
>implying they will ever convince any rational person that belichick, brady, and the new england patriots arent the greatest dyanasty in sports history

not even going to link your pathetic posts faggot, can't wait for your attempt to spin this into me being mad

>>77207558

No. Look at the better QBs of the 90s along with Young:

Favre: 87.1
Aikman 84.5
Bledsoe 75.7

Young 101.2

>Young bombed out in tampa bay

Yeah so what was I saying about system babbys?

> Montana took the chiefs to an afc championship game

Montana joined a team that had won 32 games the previous 3 seasons. Young joined what was unquestionably the worst team of the decade and started one season for them.

Bonus: Check out Montana's 3 playoff starts against Bill Belichick defenses (19 total points iirc)

>>77207812
I suspect there was a case of 'fowl play'.

>>77207855
>19 total points iirc
does that include the 49-3 (iirc) blowout in the wild card round that one year?

>>77207844
I would say so because the Clots at least won a playoff game

>>77207886
so did the Lions though, in 1991. Beat the 'Girls in the divisional, lost the NFCCG

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give me a (You) to give a career ending injury to Brady
.
But this smug asshole wins at least one in his 10 year career

>>77207875

Yeah. Giants held 9ers to 3 in consecutive years in the playoffs. I think I've watched that game (probably still on youtube). First drive Rice catches a short slant and brakes it for like a 80 yard TD or some shit but just fumbles the ball without being touched on his way to the endzone. Pretty much all down hill from there.

>>77207848
>who are the Yankees
>who are the UCONN womens basketball team
>who are the Lakers
>who are the Alabama Crimson Tide
>who are the fighting Irish
>who are the St. Louis Cards
>who are the Steelers

>>who are the Yankees
stopped reading

>>77207936
Yankees are undoubtedly the greatest overall, but in the NFL the Patriots from 2001-present are miles ahead of anyone else on Owls alone.

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>>77207931

Oh, add to that Rice's loss to the Pats in 2001 (13 points, giving Jerry's teams an average of 8 points per game in 4 playoff games against Belichick Defenses) and it's easy to see why Mr. Classless is so salty about the Pats greatness under Belichick. If it weren't for Bill, 9ers would probably have at least 1 more ring and still regarded as the gold standard.

Thank fucking Christ for Bill, amirite?

I remember the players talking about the game plan after the 2001 game. Belichick started the meeting asking if the DBs could cover an 8 yard area from the line of scrimmage. They were like "Yeah" and he's like then we should have no problem.

>>77207670
Why leave?!

Is this thread in response because you patsniggers were getting BTFO last thread?

>>77207809
t. Idiot
His throwing numbers were great for the amount he ran and he ran a lot because he was literally the whole offense

>>77207855
>system babbys

please faggot, the west coast offense is one of the most complicated offenses out there which is why a lot of it's fundamentals are still used today.

The Reason it was and still is so god damn effective is defenses had a hard time preparing for the sheer amount of different plays all of which the quarterback has to get down.

It's like calling Brees a system babby. Very few quarterbacks have the quick decision making and elite accuracy to make it work.

anyone who thinks the west coast offense is simple should honestly kill themselves

Are pats fans eternally salty? I was going to say perhaps its that New England air but none of the posters on here live there.

>>77207661

in b4 Fozzy Whitaker gets $10M in guaranteed money

>>77208088
it's the haters that are, by definition, eternally salty tbqhwyj

Why do patriots fans shit up every thread they post in?

>>77208088
Yes because their rings are fraudulent and their QB is just a part of a system. They're very insecure.

>>77208109
like magic, they come swarming out of the woodwork:
>>77208115
>>77208122

>you're mad
>no you're mad

at least some training camps open today

>>77208115
Have you ever met anyone from Jew England? They're all like that all the time

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>>77208073

I really don't give a shit beyond the FACT that when replace in the system he was in by Steve Young, Joe Montana's back up was more efficient, more productive, better. Because he was a system babby. A system that Belichick had cracked by the mid-80s.

>>77208184
The Patriots fans on here are not from New England.

>>77208179
You sound mad.

Rate your top ten Superb Owls ever

1. 47 (BAL v SF)
2. 49 (NE v SEA)
3. 36 (NE v STL)
4. 34 (TEN v STL)
5. 25 (BUF v NY)
6. 13 (PIT v DAL)
7. 43 (PIT v ARI)
8. 51 (NE v ATL)
9. 3 (NY v BAL)
10. 42 (NE v NY)

>>77208213
now THIS is memeing

>>77208088

I was never a fan of San Fran but after how classless Joe and Jerry have been regarding the kid who idolized them growing up - the kid who would never trash another player from any era - the kid we all KNOW never cheated - they're garbage as far as I'm concerned.

If that bothers you good. You're posting here, so most likely garbage too.

>>77208222
Pretty solid list
51 should be top 3 though

>>77208213

I was born a 5 minute drive from where the Pats play, but I had to wait a year because they were still the Boston Patriots then. Troll harder, faggot.

>>77208213
True

>>77208191
or maybe the model franchise at the time just knew a thing or two about quarterbacks since they had so much success.

Like I said passing numbers were better in the 90's than they were in the 80's and you can check our pro football reference if you don't believe me.

Young Probably was a bit better in the regular season but Montana was still top of his class.

Montana's career is still better though because Young didn't have the same postseason success and he was more brittle than Montana.

They're Both top 10 QBS IMO and only a fool would argue otherwise

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Literally who can stop us?

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Find a flaw

>Protip: You can't

>>77208348
Hes a homo sexual

>>77208365
Found skip bayless

>>77208327
anyone, hypothetically.

>>77208348
he was a RB/receiverbabby as a QB and sucks as a commentator

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>implying we aren't going to shit up each and every thread until you morons accept that brady is the GOAT

>>77208222
Decent list

>>77208397
People also say emmitt smith was a product of a good QB, WR, and OL. Same thing is said about Irvin.

Pick one and ONLY one

>>77208222
what makes Harbowl so good in your eyes?

>>77208458
all are OL babbies

>>77208222
>pats meme owls above that retarded once in a lifetime comeback
dude I'm a fucking bengals fan but nigger wtf are you even doing

>>77208479
it was a once in a lifetime comeback but I dont think it was the greatest super bowl

I even think pats vs seahawks was a better brady super bowl

>>77208222

>No NE vs. CAR

Shit list

>>77208524
>>77208479
these

the Belichick Patriots, aside from MAYBE 2004 and 2011, have never played in a shitty SB

>>77208421
He's not the GOAT. Whining and complaining won't change that. He lost two SBs. One to the worst team to make a SB in NFL history. Not the GOAT.

How do I git gud at Offence on Madden? I used to play D-Line so I get the defensive plays spot on most of the time and rack up loads of sacks but I'm fucking awful at offence.

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>>77208573
five

>>77208573
GOATs also dont get busted multiple times for cheating

>>77208573
>been to 7 SBs
>hurr he lost two of them so it doesn't count
who has a better SB record than Brady?

>>77208581
just meme it up with audibles eventually you will see where routes get open then youll see how to rush from the singleback

honestly just play the computer and run an open trey every play and youll see how madden is a huge meme

>>77208604
>who has a better record

Flacco.

>>77208573
>the worst team to make a SB in NFL history
on paper they were slightly better than the Patriots. Simulations support this. If the Ravens had won the AFCCG they'd have kicked the shit out of the Giants again.

>>77208601
he's been """busted""" for cheating 0 times

>>77208613
5 > 1

>>77208601

Brady never cheated. Your need to lie only makes his cock harder. Unlike Peyton Manning, who was caught using HGH in a year when he won the Superbowl.

>>77208607
That's usually what I do, or just run a mix of slants and outside zones
works until I get into the red zone, in which case I shit the bed and throw a stupid amount of picks

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Quick! Post QBs that didn't cheat!

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>>77208573

I've seen this idiocy posted here multiple times in short time lurking. Not sure what Giants team you're referring to but both the 2011 and 2007 teams beat 3 teams each with at least 13 wins.

Your judgement of good teams fits in well with whatever loser franchise that's not the Pats you follow.

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>>77208689
Quick! Post QBs that have never been held to less than 10 points in any playoff game!

>>77208705
2011 giants were the only team that had a negative point differential and won the super bowl

maybe you could say they were a hot team, but they are by far the worst team to ever win the super bowl

>>77208689

As Bill Parcells pointed out, the 49ers with Montana scripted the 1st 15 plays they'd run on offense every game. And every time they'd play them the 49ers would lie and say their headsets were out, forcing the Giants to turn theirs off as well - because they didn't need to signal as already scripted.

Cheating confirmed.

Brady never cheated. Proven in court.

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>>77208717
Quick! Post QBs that have never lost in the Super Bowl

>>77208720
[Citation needed]

>>77208461
Lots of outside storylines (Kaepernicks emergence, Harbaugh brothers, Ray Lewis's last year, etc)
Blackout was a surprise and added more lore to the game
Mini comeback for the 49ers, but it wasn't like the whole game was just a huge comeback, their was actual back and forth action
Came down to the last drive
Ravens were a change in pace from the usual AFC team (Patriots, Steelers, Broncos/Colt(Peyton era)

>>77208752
why does he have 5 rings on his right hand? that's one too many

>>77208795
Probably his wedding ring

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>>77208631
>>77208637
Then why did he get suspended? Check m8 faggors

>>77208671
you need to understand running plays and blocking/audibles go through all the meme drills inmadden, it even gives you the running box on the play preview for christs sake

>>77208795
Notre Dame champ ring. Montana has been a winner his whole life unlike Brady

>NFL got so butthurt shit went to a federal judge that ruled, in essence, that tom brady was innocent of any wrong doing, qua united states law, yet the NFL as anentity has the power to rule punishments as arbitrarily as it so desires

>>77208830
Goodell trying to scrape the shit off his face after the """"""investigation"""""" got botched and failing

>>77208848
>college accomplishments meaning anything
besides, Brady was an owl winner at Michigan and consistently had to fight for his job despite being better than his teammates at QB.

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>>77208719

An NFL season is a living thing. You have teams that started 5-0 that miss the playoffs. But in the context of your sad need to try to tear down the obvious GOAT, it's silly. Did you know the 2011 Patriots allowed the passing yards ever in AFC history or that they had the 20th ranked Run Offense? Winning the AFC Championship is one of Brady's most impressive feats.

The truth about the loss to the Giants - beside the fact that Coughlin is a great fucking coach (he and Belichick met in the 1996 AFC Championship game btw) is that Brady was injured in 2007 and Gronk was injured in 2011.

Injuries happen to all teams but to pick two years when shitty leg injuries in the AFC Championship game limited their best player in the Superbowl is just tiresome.

Don't you get bored with being such a fucking loser? Jesus fucking Christ. Give it a rest you sad boy.

>>77208854
I bet its hard to conduct an investigation when evidance keeps getting destroyed

>>77200131
>Also, do you think the Patriots will win another Owl before Brady/Billy Boy retire?
No. Brady's window is closing and the AFC is improving fast. The real question is how long the Past will be in the league's basement after they retire. I'm thinking a good 10 years, maybe much more

>>77208891
>DUDE JUST LET RANDOM ASSHOLES WITH ZERO LEGAL PRECEDENT OR PROBABLE CAUSE RIFLE THROUGH YOUR ENTIRE SOCIAL LIFE
why did Ievengive you a you nigger fine have another (You)

>>77208752

This isn't reddit faggot but here since your google appears to be broken

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/09/11/bill-walsh-once-admitted-to-headset-gamesmanship-with-bill-parcells

>>77203637
samuel is going to be the slot receiver

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>>77208882
>brady was an owl winner in college

Yeah the Orange Bowl