/nfl/: Megatron returns edition

>>77167450
b
rowsn are da bomb

>Johnny Manziel Has Talked To Teams About A Potential Return

All Kapernick did was take a knee, zero record of any off the field issues, took his team to a super bowl, beat Aaron Rodgers twice in the playoffs, and is a better quarterback than manziel; but this low life, drunk, women abuser, terrible quarterback gets yet again another opportunity *yellow man thinking*

Tits are gonna win the owl this season

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>spics in LA so assblasted about the Raiders they have to rewrite geography textbooks and state lines

7 more years of Trump & this place should be cleansed

>>77167559
What did the Raiders do now?

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>yfw this happens next season

>>77167574
It's just some rasm fan pretending there's a rivalry between the teams.

>>77167559
Las Vegas is apart of Oakland now?
cool

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>>77167502
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F2MUiIcwQPM

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>>77167658

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>>77167653

naw, not even as a rasmsfag I just genuinely hate the Raiders. They & all the spics & illgal immigrants that wear their merch but never seen a minute of football are one of the many reasons california as a place is a hellhole to live in. I've seen it firsthand living in Compton, my hatred goes beyond X's & O's. its cultural. I was going to BE a raider fan until I noticed what was going on in my state. I almost bought the hype when I was young but when I caught on I just makes my blood burn whenever I see the Raiders logo because it reminds me of everything that is WRONG with this state.

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>>77167450
>HOU:D''Onta Foreman popped for marijuana, weapons
>The fucking shanty town of Hueston

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Where were you when the seahawks got BTFO by pittsburgh?

>>77167998
dat clutch ben block

>>77167998
incoming "m-muh r-refball"

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>Rams the premier football team in Los Angeles
>California mainly Republican state from 1952 on

>Raiders move to LA
>eight years later California is a blue state and have never went Red since

>Rams come back to LA
>Inaugural season Trump wins election
>Raiders move to Vegas


hmmm I wonder

>>77168298
>Chargers lost in the mix

I'm used to this.

They shouldn't be in LA, anyway, goddamnit.

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>the end of the Failcons

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>30th in completion %
>21st in yards
>20th in TDs
>25th in QBR
>10th in INTs

Why the fuck do people still think Cam is a good QB?

>>77169170
He's not, also did you know edelman is
>31 years old?

>>77168298
Too bad chargers are a better team than the Rams :^)

>>77169170
hes had a better career than stafford

prove me wrong

Will my iggles go to the playoffs or will they shit the bed against easy wins teams again?

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>>77169211

>Chargers are better than the Rams


chargers have always been a meme

Is it just me or are Packers fans the biggest cunts lately?

>some ram ""FAN"" is so booty blasted that ""his"" team is not the most popular team in their own city that he has to complain about it on a malaysian miners board

pathetic famalam kys

>>77168415
delete this

>>77170473
>lately
lel

>>77171251
Well I've only been into this sport for 3 years

Why are Packers fans such counts then?

>>77171369
All fans of every sports team are cunts

>>77171369
Probably because their team is wasting a HoF QB by choking in the playoffs every year due to a meme defense

>>77171369
How do Aussies even get into American football?

>>77171417
My brother in law is a yank

Goddamn it, the OP made google it

Played American Football for a year in between playing rugby, when it's short yardage or close to the goal line why don't teams just maul it over? An 11 man shove over the line would be almost impossible to stop.

>>77171369
Just the right mix between annoying delusional expectations like the Cowboys and annoying perpetual self-pity and hatred like the Lions

>>77171996
An 11 man shove on the other side is just as strong.

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>>77169243
I posed the question first.

>>77171996

impossible to set up too when you have defenders coming from all sides as soon as the ball is snapped. would never be as effective as a sneak or regular run

>>77168415

Really nice play but I think it was 1st Down. They ended up getting the ball back AFTER they tied the game. If that's an INC pass Pats still march down the field and tie it and then win in OT. Amazing catch but it wasn't that significant.

>>77172115
hes coming off an awful year but has been generally an above quarterback most years and peaked as an mvp

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Hello /nfl/
Please google
>"your favorite team name here" meme
and post the first google image result.

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>>77167653

Who cares what Calvin Johnson thinks? He was a leader of one of the worst teams in NFL history. Guy's obviously a fucking cancer. All the diva WRs; Moss, TO, Ocho - they never won shit but everyone still treats them like teams need them. Need them to do what? Not win games?

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>>77172188
Predictable but no awful

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>>77172188

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Daily reminder to The Nation that McGregor is our guy and we gotta have his back.

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Fly Eagles Fly

>>77172209
those "unstoppable" wide receivers just take up a ton of cap space to get shut down by good defensive coordinators in crunch time.

>>77168415
Goes right through the DB hands, bounces off a falcons players knee, gets stuck between his feet and is plucked by edelman. Comical

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>>77168415
Still doesn't beat this one senpai

>>77172348
Imagine the memes if Dick Butkus was still playing

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>>77172188
wew lad

>>77172209
Randy Moss is the greatest receiver of all time.

Go fuck yourself.

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>>77172188

>>77168415
This ball should have been picked too by whoever bounced it in the air. If he made that play, game over. Falcons's coaches will be a tough spot this season. Imagine blowing a lead like that. Probably why they fired all those defensive coaches even tho it wasn't completely their fault. Quinn can blame Kyle and those guys.

>>77172449
It's miles better.

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>>77172188

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LOL

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>>77172505
How so? Patriots were on 1st down when this play took place. The Giants were on 3rd down in under a minute left to play. I think the Giants had more weight to their catch. Unless you're autistic and will just >NO REEEE yourself out of this debate

>>77167502

Kerry Collins was given a second chance after spending time out of the league due to alcoholism and was in the Super Bowl a year or two later.

(Not saying Manziel is as good as Collins was but this Inspector Javert routine when it comes to the prospect of Manziel returning is stupid)

>>77169170

Cam has terrible protection and had the following as receiving options last year:

>Kelvin Benjamin (Fat and slow)
>Ted Ginn Jr. (Russian Roulette)
>Devin Funchess (Looks like Tarzan, plays like Jane)
>Greg Olsen (Elite)
>Ed Dickson (Eh)

It's pretty remarkable that in 2015 Cam had an MVP season with this core (Minus Benjamin and plus an old as fuck Jerricho Cotchery WHO CAUGHT THAT BALL IN THE SUPER BOWL DON'T PULL THE BERT EMMANUEL CARD ON ME REFS REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE)

>>77172593
One requires actual focus and concentration on getting the catch and keeping the play on at all times.

The other one is just a sticky helmet and/or luck.

>>77172725
>sticky helmet
although luck was a major factor you gotta add into account tyree's strength against harrison and that even after they were both down harrison couldn't pry it from tyree's hand. edelman should've been called down as he caught the ball and his knee clearly scuff the turf before he secured the balls which should've ruled it as an incomplete pass

>>77172774
>edelman should've been called down as he caught the ball and his knee clearly scuff the turf before he secured the balls which should've ruled it as an incomplete pass

woah.... so this.... is the intelligence of Giants fans

>>77172725
Helmet catch is crazier. Eli had to escape to throw it deep down the field. Tyree jumps up into the air, catches it, pins it to his helmet all the while Rodney Harrison is trying to punch it out. The two don't compare.

>>77172808
>Giants' oline had to get away with at least 2 cases of holding in one play so that Eli had to escape to throw it deep down the field. Tyree jumps up into the air, catches it, pins it to his helmet all the while Rodney Harrison is trying to punch it out. The two don't compare.

ftfy

>>77172861
>he doesn't know holding occurs on almost every play

>>77172861
didn't the falcons get called for the same penalty like three times on the same drive?

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For me, it's Andy Dalton

>>77172947
Yeah and that drive gave them 7 points off a pick so it's irrelevant

>>77172932
>He doesn't understand how that's different from 2 lineman blatantly doing it in front of the refs with the camera in focus in a pivotal moment of the game

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>>77172188
Bengals

>>77172975
How many more plays did the run before the pick? The cons' defense was gassed in the fourth quarter after running so many plays.

>>77173224
6 maybe? The whole game was like 93 fucking snaps so hardly the difference maker

Not like those holding calls were even debatable, Failcunts were playing murderball in the 1st half to build their lead

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https://www.sbnation.com/golf/2017/7/16/15977756/american-century-championship-tahoe-2017-tee-times-pairings-sunday

all these great athletes played in a golf tournament and there wasn't even a thread about it today.
>steph curry can actually ball on the green as well
>Romo didnt win
Come on Tony you dont have an excuse anymore. its time to go pro with your golf game.

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>>77172188

meh a couple other ones were funnier

>>77168235
Seahawks fans that watched this game have probably abandoned ship

>>77169170
>Why the fuck do people still think Cam is a good QB?
Fantasy fags and panther homers

https://youtu.be/-WmMj4lfpdc

calamity gled

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Guess how old brady is in this.

>>77173486
Newborn

>>77167998

you know remember Antawwn Randel-el, the only QB to make Indiana relevant at football in my lifetime.

>>77168415
white receivers are the best receivers tbqh

>>77172774
What? No. If a knee is on the ground before he makes a catch, it simply means he will be down immediately after making the catch.

>>77173486
17 or 18

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ALL HAIL THE KINGS OF THE NORTH

THAT FEEL WHEN DA BEARS WIN THE THRONEB OWL AND THE SUPERB OWL

>>77173486
13, they grow up so fast

>>77167998

Most of the posters here weren't even born yet

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>>77173832
>kings of the north
>no QB
>no OL
>no WRs
>no Defense

>>77172774
You can't be down if you don't have the ball. What happens before the catch doesn't matter. What matters is that he secures the ball long enough to become a runner, which he did, even though he was "down"

If Comeback Carr was playing ComebacK Stafford in a superb OWL, who'd win?

>>77174188
Stafford because Carr would just get his leg broken

>>77172774
Like the other anons said, when he didn't control the ball yet, he hadn't made the catch, so it did not matter that his knee was down. He then controlled the pass and completed the process of the catch, and since his knee was down AFTER he caught it, he was ruled down.

>giants fans

>>77174212
t. inferior team's fan

Daily reminder:

My team > your team

>>77174321
>Your team
more like meme team

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>>77174302
t. butthurt raiders fan

>>77174340
More like
>Your meme
>meme meme

>>77174345
t. 0 rings

>>77174349
>Meme meme's meme memeing

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>>77174368
>0 rings
Does not compute

>>77174377
Has memeing gone too far?

>>77174212
>stafford
>winning playoff games

>>77174431
>1 playoff win
>in 60 goddamn years

This is still shocking and puzzling to me.

>>77174410
alright then, first to win a ring this century gets to talk shit

>>77174446
Bobby Layne curse

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>>77174321
>
fuck off ayy, the Green Bay Packers are the best sports franchise in human history

You fags will argue over anything

QB A > QB B

2 weeks from Thursday and "football" returns.

>>77174553
QB A all day

>>77174553
>>77174571
How could you even imply something so stupid? QB B has proven time and time again to be the better player.

>>77174553
>QB A

greetings reddit

>>77174571
Nah my guy QB b
A is a system baby

>>77174611
QB B is shit, GAS ALL B FAGS

Why y'all niggas sleepin on QB C, he made QB E his bitch, in his own stadium

>>77174553
QB Aaron rodgers > QB thomas Brady.

Well, we all know, that Brady is the ultimate goat, I know you tried to hide their names by associating them with 1 letter, but you failed. You failed hard. Go back home.

Rodgers is shit.

>>77174661
QB C is a WR F babby

>>77174676
And QB E is a penulty babby, just like WR G

The tiants make me very nervous

>>77167450
The NFL is for gays and losers.

And just make me a fan of the NFL, until there is a NFL team in the city of Milwaukee.

Because Green Bay is a fucking bitch

>>77174750
Why is Costa Rica mad at Green Bay?

>>77174750
Shut up Moerritz, learn to catch those passes

>>77174768
Because green bay is a shitty town


And Milwaukee is the largest city wisconsin

I miss ground and pound run offenses, wish the league would return ro run heavy mode

>>77174922
As much as I love watching a QB sling the ball, a great run game is sometimes more fun to watch.

>>77167450
>DEN:Paige: Elway about to become highest-paid GM

For what? Overpaying von gorilla, failing to sign/draft a decent QB, and missing the playoffs?

>>77174953
ELWAY BTFO

>>77174966

Elway? More like El Gay

>>77174953
>2011: 8-8, won division
>2012: 13-3, won division
>2013: 13-3, won conference
>2014: 12-4, won division
>2015: 12-4 won super bowl
>2016: 9-7

thats a pretty good track record m8

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>So then he says, "D'Onta Foreman is definitely running for more yards than Leonard"

>>77174996
The Chargers had the division in 2011 though

>>77174996

>mismanage team so grossly that you go from superbowl champs to regular season chumps

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>>77175004
STOP

>>77175040
one mediocre year is not enough to discredit his other accomplishments

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2011 was a weird year for the AFCW

>>77175079
>nearly all 8-8

That would've been something.

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lmao the league is going to get fucking rekt this season

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>>77175079
Fuck SD

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What game was your QB the most defeated?

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>>77175079
>When you one game out of 1st place but finish last in the division

>>77174750
You should probably learn to speak English properly before following an American sport my guy

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ROTY predictions?
Pic related, Foster's going to light the league up.

>>77174922
>>77174937
The Titans are building a strong running game. At least they had one last year.

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>>77175273
OROTY: Leonard Fournette
DROTY: Jaylen Myrick

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Did O'Donnell intentionally throw these picks or is it just pittsburgh fans making an excuse for why they lost the super bowl?

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>>77175364

>>77175062

How many times have the Pats missed the playoffs in the BB era?

>>77175386
three times

>>77175004
>D'Onta Foreman running more yards than Leonard
When the hell did anyone ever make this claim? Also, a statement from his lawyer says the firearm is registered and Foreman wasn't smoking, but that the weed belonged to his friends. I know that it's not very believable, but I could see it being true. You hang out with the wrong idiots and they get you into trouble. Happens all the time. Personally, I'm hoping Foreman just hung out with idiots, wasn't smoking anything, and his firearm was registered, but I won't be surprised if it turns out he's an idiot. Either way, the Texans still have Lamar Miller, so they're okay at RB for now.

On to Leonard. We'll see how many yards he'll get behind a questionable O-line and against a good run defense like the Texans. Not that I don't think the kid is good, because he obviously is. But I think he has yet to prove that he can consistently will himself to more yards without good blocking in front of him. Just look at both times he faced Alabama.

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>>77174321
>your team
>mfw

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>>77174431
>>77174446
>*picks up penalty flag*

>>77175605
My team will win because that is my team and i think my team is better than all of the other teams in the NFL

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Ayo guys, how's the off season been?

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>>77175079
>chefs

>>77175622
pretty fun, two days until the first camps open up

>>77175622
https://countingdownto.com/countdown/hall-of-fame-game-03-august-2017-countdown-clock

S
O
O
N

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>>77175609
*fumbles in the final minute*

>>77168415
>>77172449
Even if you ignore the context the play occurred in, Edelman's catch is far better.

Tyre caught the ball against a surface of his body. Yeah, the helmet is a pretty rare surface to assist a catch, but you see this all the time with arms, legs, and chests.

Edelman had to stop, change direction 180 degrees, and jump to the ground to meet the ball before it hit the ground. In between three defenders.

I'm not taking anything away from the helmet catch, but from a football mechanics standpoint, Edelman made the most miraculous catch in Owl history

>>77175062
>his other accomplishments
you mean beating up on the raidurrs and the chorgers from 2011-2014

the queefs have been the only other "good" team in the division over the course of Elway's GMship. The Raiders have only been good for two years and
>chargers

>>77175792
still think Lynn Swann's catch was the best

>>77175813
they've also gone through the patriots twice though in the playoffs

I don't really see how you could argue Elway isn't one of the better gm's in the league.

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>"I met Derek. He's a good lad. Real good lad. In a bit he'll fucking run football. A Don. Tom Brady is fucking bitch"

>>77175846

>I don't really see how you could argue Elway isn't one of the better gm's in the league.

Nepotism

I'd argue that the Super Bowl team was more Wade Phillips' doing than Gary Kubiak's

>>77175941
Considering how poorly Peyton played in the Owl, that has some weight.

Is there ever a fantasy football thread, or is this the wrong place for that? Getting to be that time of year

>>77175974

They usually start showing up when training camps start and die pretty quickly, but become active around weeks 3 and 4 of the preseason when most do their drafts.

Will Ty Montgomery become a legitimately good running back?

>>77174449
So you're admitting that Raiders fans look like utter retards talking shit to broncos fans?

>>77176036
Denver doesn't have 5 rings though, If that poster was a cowboys fan and not a false flagger than he'll know his team hasn't done shit 1996, If my Raiders happen to get that ring before then I'll get to brag about my team did better than his this centuru

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>>77175628
>>>AT LEAST HE HELD ON TO HIS HELMET

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>Olsen still undecided on holdout
I swear to fucking god if he leaves I'm gonna reeee like never before

>>77176069
And now he's a bunco

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>>77172188
I dig it

>>77176071

Olsen is the leader of the offense and staying with the Panthers is his best shot at winning a Super Bowl. He's not going anywhere.

>>77176100
you forget that (((Gettleman))) will let people walk for nothing

>>77176100
He's going to NE

>>77176115
>going to the place with Gronk
why? So they could have a good TE that isn't made of glass?

>>77176124
Give that #67 an A for effort

>>77176000
Cool beans

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What does this image remind you of?

>>77176160
Blair Walsh

>>77176160
Wide right

>>77176160
Big dicks in my butthole

>>77176160
Rage of missing FGs and getting BTFO by Tecmo cpu

>>77176160
Gary Anderson missing a chip shot field goal in the 1998 NFC Championship game.

>>77176160
The greatest vidyah ever

>>77176127
So he could get a free ring

>>77176241
rings dont mean anything if you don't work for them

loser mentality

>>77176252
If you were an actual athlete that put in the work everyday like any of the successful ones in the NFL you'd probably tell someone who thinks it doesn't mean anything to fuck off

This isn't like Nigger Jump where one dominant player can make a team a 90% lock to win

>>77175941
>I'd argue that the Super Bowl team was more Wade Phillips' doing than Gary Kubiak's

and Elway was the one who hired Kubiak who had Wade on his staff.

Not to mention Elway was the one who got the players for Wade

You now remember David Boston

>>77175609
>There are people that literally lived a full life into their 50s without having seen the Lions win a playoff game

>>77176330
>50
>full life
yeesh

>>77176384

It's the average life expectancy in Detroit

>>77176330
We assblasted the cuckboys in '91, remember. So it's 26 years.

AYY

AYYYY

WAR DEM BENGALS BE LIEK FAMM

>>77172667
LOOK DOWN

>>77178276
>you now remember how Vontaze Burfict and Pacman Jones lost a playoff game

>>77176015
I like his game, but he isn't ready for a full game workload. Sorta like Miller in hou

>>77175974
there are plenty
there is the typical general circlejerk
and there will be hourly threads with thirsty anons looking for and begging people to join drafts

>>77176160
Bo vs Boz

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>since 2000, five teams have won the AFC championship
>since 2000, thirteen teams have won the NFC championship

AFC enterally BTFO'd

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>>77176685
finland brings the heat and doesnt get any yous?
for shame
good job fin bro

>Cowboys RB Ezekiel Elliott was reportedly involved in a late night altercation at a Dallas bar last night, per @fishsports.

>Cowboys RB Ezekiel Elliott was reportedly involved in a late night altercation at a Dallas bar last night, per @fishsports.

>Cowboys RB Ezekiel Elliott was reportedly involved in a late night altercation at a Dallas bar last night, per @fishsports.

>Cowboys RB Ezekiel Elliott was reportedly involved in a late night altercation at a Dallas bar last night, per @fishsports.

LGTSS
>SADBOYS

>>77178758
He's getting suspended now for sure.

>>77178758
They literally can't stop fucking up. It's amazing.

>>77174750
Chill out, Fernando Fernandez

>>77178758
>@fishsports

>>77178624
>Ravens
>Patriots
>Raiders
>Steelers
>Colts
>Broncos

thats 6

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Zeke assault on a Bouncer at the Clutch nightclub.

>McFadden and Morris faces when

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>the absolute state of the Cuckboys

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>77179268
they will still end up with a better record than the loins

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>>77179283
>he thinks Dak can carry a team

>>77179301
wouldnt matter loins are trash

>>77175386
How are a head coach and a GM the same thing?

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>>77179329
A 9-7 team that greatly improved over the offseason isn't trash.

>>77179371
you wont get better until you get a quarterback that can beat winning teams. Until then loins are trash

>>77179371
>a 9-7 team that greatly overachieved and lost its best offensive linemen

Won't even break .500

>>77179398
It's almost as though football is a team sport and the Loins always have shitty defenses...

>>77179437
And yet here you are posting shit like >>77179301

>>77179437
Stafford couldn't beat winning teams even when his team had a good defense

>>77179432
The loss of Decker is awful, but he's not the best on the OL. Lang and Wagner are both better than him.

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>Matt Stafford has a career record of 5 - 46 against teams above .500

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>>77179443
My point was that Dak (or any individual player) can't carry a team. It's a team sport, and the loss of Zeke hurts that team.

>>77179473
Why did you feel the need to even say that to begin with you backpeddaling retard

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>>77179472
>Stafford has only had 7 games with a rusher over 100 yards

>>77179494
The faggot I was replying to (probably you) said that the Cowboys would still be better than the Loins, and I said that Dak wouldn't be able to succeed without Zeke

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>pitiful detoiletfags don't realize their team will be 3rd in the division this year

>>77179509
No, you said carry a team then trmurn around and talk about team sports. Cowboys still have two very capable runningback on the roster both who are 1000+ yard rushers. Lions are a team full of holes. Even if Zeke gets a 4 game Cowboys are still looking like a way better team than the Lions.

>>77179452
Stafford has only had a top 10 defense once, in 2014. And he beat several 7-9 or 8-8 teams that would've have a .500 or above had we lost.

>>77179522
I dont see how they finish worse than the Vikings. The Vikings offense is TRASH bro. Cant name a single player on their offense who is above average. Lions offense is pretty good and their defense is bad but its not complete garbage. I dont see it happening.

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>He is wearing a t-shirt of a soldier sneaking up on a Muslim
He can't keep getting away with this!

>>77179590
Rudolph is an above average tight end

>>77179556
There is no doubt the Cowboys will still have a serviceable run game. But 13-3 or better without Zeke is going to be extremely difficult.

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>>77179522
>Vikangz
>the Chicago Trubiskys

2nd place is pretty much guaranteed.

>>77179621
13-3 or better is hard for any team retard

Even the pats over under is 12.5

>>77179582
Romo was able to beat winning teams with a terrible defense and a terrible offensive line to boot. Stafford just doesn't have the will to win

>>77179621
Who said anything about going 13-3

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>>77179647
https://youtu.be/8rvIwyikbRU

Excuse me?

>>77179638
Lions have a hard time beating the Vikings. Vikings got better. Lions will be getting 3rd

>>77179651
That was last years record. Trying to improve every year is usually a good strategy

>>77179660
So did we. Wagner and Lang boost the OL while Davis fills a hole in the Linebacker position

>>77179657
Ah his rookie year before he lost his will to win and before he came to the realization he would be with a shit franchise for so long and achieve absolutely nothing in his career with them.

>>77179660
No they dont. The Lions swept the Vikings last year and over the past like 5 years they have had a pretty even record with each other.

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>5 wins
>46 losses

When did lion fans get so delusional

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>>77179717
>and Zero(0)(Zilch)(Nada) Playoff wins

>>77179596
Is Belichick dare I say /ourguy/?

>>77179730
they always are

>>77179738
Nah fuck that Jew lover

Ive noticed whenever Lions fans and Cowboys fans get into an argument that it gets pretty heated.

Underrated rivalry imo. Every game is usually close and to the wire. Lions entire playoff history is filled with losses to the Cowboys, yet their only playoff win since the 50s was against the Cowboys. The whole Dez vs Calvin thing was pretty big.

Fun times.

>>77179730
Let us be optimistic for like a month before crushing reality sets in and we watch the lions struggle to win against bad teams and piss away leads against bad teams.

>>77179787
Against good teams. I shouldn't post from my phone.

>>77179783
My hatreds go:
>Packers
>Cowboys
>everybody else
>Browns
>Jags

For me, the Packers-Cowboys playoff game was like the Iran-Iraq war; I wanted both teams to lose.

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>>77179787
Someone doesn't believe in meme magic...

>>77179818
No I just have realistic expectations after following this team for 30 years.

>>77179804
I wanted the Cowboys to knock off the Pack to be honest. I dont hate the Cowboys. Every game is like a friendly rival game to me.

Cowboys fans seem more arrogant than Packers fans though.

>>77179827
Yeah, I feel you. I think a playoff win could happen, but that's our ceiling for this year.

>>77179787
I dont even hate the lions, I just don't think they're going to be good THIS year

Martha seems like a much better owner and they could be headed in the right direction

>>77179853
It's gonna be interesting. 6-10 through 12-4 are all in the realm of possibility this year.

>>77179870
Eh lions ceiling is 10-6 and even that's a reach

>>77179870
12-4 is a reach buddy.

11-5 is our ceiling and even that is pushing it.

>>77179885
>>77179882
6-10 is a reach as well. This is a decent playoff team that has the capacity to surprise (both positively and negatively). 5-11 won't happen (barring a Stafford injury but let's not jinx ourselves)

>>77179905
>This is a decent playoff team
They aren't a playoff team

>>77179933
They've been to the playoffs two of the last three years. That's what's called a playoff team.

Detroit has a good shot at making the playoffs this year because Aaron Rodgers will be focusing all his effort into staying in the closet.

>>77179983
detoilet has not had consecutive winning seasons in 20 years

We're almost there my dudes. Another offseason survived. I'd suck 20 dicks for even the worst of preseason football right now.

Would you rather go 0-16 and tie Detoilet or go 1-15?

>>77180062
It's actually surprising to me that only the Loins have a 0-16 season. Through all the years, I would think more than once it would've happened.

>>77180077
go flip a coin 16 times

if it lands tails 16 times, thats the 2008 lions

its really hard to go 0-16 in a sport thats heavily based on luck

Is being an absolute nigger a requirement for Jerry Jones to draft you?

>>77180077
The 76-77 Bucs went 26 games. Almost two full seasons.

Then the 'Aints choked the game away at home, ruining the meme magic.

>panthers

>FA: Shocker: Panthers fire GM Dave Gettleman

holy shit something to actually talk about

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>yfw da jigs win da superb owl

I am so fucking mad right now

>>77179783
>The whole Dez vs Calvin thing was pretty big.
Not a fan of either but I still laugh my was off when cowboy fans try to compare the two careers

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>you now remember that the Panthers logo is supposed to look like both Carolinas

http://i.imgur.com/Q6Kgz.gif

Dave is going to Jacksonville confirmed

>>77180280
Someone's head had to roll. Cam went from MVP to this trainwreck >>77169170

>Gettleman fired
why? the only horrible thing he's done was letting Norman walk and that was only bad for the season really

>gettleman out

WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK IS GOING ON?

Only thing I can think of is that he did too poor of a job protecting Cam, but that can't be enough to fire him, right?

>>77180307
>blaming the GM for a QB regression
blame the QB coach or the shit OC the Panthers have or just that Newton isn't really top tier

>>77180317
Oh, I'm not blaming him. From what I know he did a great job managing cap space.

Still, the Panthers need someone to fall on the sword.

Panthers fans are just now realizing their team is going to be stuck in mediocrity for the next 5 years and Cam was never really that good.

>>77179905
>This is a decent playoff team
No, it really isn't at all.
You limped into the playoffs and lose to all the good teams and struggled against the bad ones and got your ass handed to you.

>>77180332
should've been Shula
>>77180375
>a GM getting fired will cause a realization
nah

Also, Gettleman, come home, we need someone better than Jerry Reese.

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>Gettlemen Fired

Greg Hardy is smiling with a shiteating grin now

>>77180062
1-15 I don't want that infamy espically as a jets fan we have enough but I would like to go 1-15 than have another 4 or 5 season so we can get a the top pick in deep qb class in 2018

>>77180418
>Greg Hardy
nah, Steve Smith, DeAngelo Williams, and Josh Norman are

OH GOD HE DIDN'T PAY JOSH NORMAN 20/YEAR AND DIDN'T LET STEVE SMITH RUIN MORE ROOKIE WRS AND DIDN'T WANT TO OVERPAY THOMAS DAVIS WHEN SHAQ THOMPSON IS ALREADY READY TO TAKE HIS SPOT AND DIDN'T OVERPAY DEANGELO WILLIAMS TO BE ON IR AND DIDN'T WANT TO RENEGOTIATE OLSEN'S TEAM FRIENDLY DEAL BETTER FIRE HIS ASS WE WON THE DIVISION 3X IN A ROW WHEN NO TEAM IN THE NFCS HAD EVER REPEATED IN ITS HISTORY YEP ONE BAD YEAR IT'S TIME FOR SOME CHANGE

I hope JR chokes on a Bojangles biscuit what a fucking faggot

>>77180376
Stafford's finger injury was the key culprit. It's not a coincidence that we lost every game after that.

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>>77180443
woah man take it easy it's just a GM firing, he didn't fire Rivera

>>77180457
... yet.

>Cowniggers LITERALLY cannot stay out of trouble

>>77180457
I would rather have Gman than Rivera

>>77180439
Everyone in the Carolina locker room is happy as fuck including Hardy and ex-players. Big question will Hardy comeback when season is tanking hard?

https://twitter.com/89SteveSmith/status/886992866479710208

top kek

pls megatron on the raiders

Summer of oddly timed gm firings

>>77180446
They were sturggling to beat teams even before Stafford hand injury and his hand injury wasn't so severe that it halted the entire team.

>>77180485
>Will Hardy come back
kek, no
he had a shit year with the Cowboys and doesn't want to play anymore I think

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>>77180488

>>77180457
Gettleman is one of the best talent evaluators in the NFL right now. He wasn't perfect but he did great things for the Panthers. This is bad.

>>77167502
>is a better quarterback than manziel
Only by the metric of being able to run faster. Both can't read or throw.

>>77180515
I'm pretty sure with him cutting Smitty with no notice, him not extending Olsen yet, and the TD situation probably weighed in on this. All three are favorites of Mr. Richardson.

>>77180488
Final run with the Panthers when?

>>77180502
He will put his MMA career on hold unless Carolina FO is interested to get the old boys back in town

>>77180568
Olsen signed a team friendly deal and is getting burned. Shaq Thompson will be better than TD within a season or two. I love Smitty and hate how it ended but panthers finally saw other WRs succeed once he was gone.