ATTENTION HUE HUES

Choices

1958
1962
1970
1994
2002

Please motivate

1994 > 2002 > 1970 > 1962 > 1958

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>>77144183
delet this

>>77144154
But 1958 had Pele, Vava, Zagallo, Garrincha, Didi, Nílton Santos, Djalma Santos. Shouldn't hey be ranked higher?

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Better question, is there a point of comparison between those 5 teams? Purists will claim that professional football evolved so much that it is impossible to compare early tournaments with the most recent ones.

>>77144128
1970 is the best brazilian team ever, so it's hors concurs, and 1994 was carried by Bebeto and Romario, problably the worst.

1970 > 1962 > 1958 > 2002 > 1994

>>77144128
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qqQ-KF21dTE

>>77144212
Redditors need to know those non-facts so they can show they know stuff about football.

>>77144212
1970 would definitly beat 94 and 02. Football evolved, yes, but international foot is still a caos and Brazil isn't know for having tatical genius as coaches, quite the opposite.

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>all there hues posting about teams they only saw on youtube
Sete (7) a Um (1)

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>>77144833
Don't panic, huebro. /ligamx/ returns next month and there's still mexican beisbol going on.

2006 was the greatest. i still dont believe we lost that game

>>77144884
2006 was awful, even 2010 was better.

are you on drugs m8

>>77144927
dida
cafu
lucio
juan
roberto carlos
emerson
zé roberto
kaka
ronaldinho
ronaldo
adriano

x

júlio cesar (frangueiro)
maicon
lúcio
juan
michel bastos (seriosamente?)
gilberto silva
felipe melo (maluco)
elano (nem sei como esse cara foi parar na seleção)
kaka
luis fabiano
robinho

>>77145018
>on paper

lmao. its coming home la'

>>77144128
2002 was the only winner in history to win every game without needing extra time, so I pick them.

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>>77144183
>>77144209
Fun fact: Garrincha knocked up a Swedish woman in 58

>>77144128
Related question: Where would Spain 1982's Brazil squad rank among those teams?

>>77145273
1970 > 1962 > 1958 > 1982 > 2002 > 1994

82 is slightly overrated. They played nicely football, but not that competitive.

>>77144147
99% of this board only saw 2002
The other 1% saw 1994, if that

>>77145347
rutracker.org

>>77145221
fez ele bem

1962>1970>1958>2002>1994.

You can change 58 with 02 but is the only possible change.

>>77145390
faz um carinho em mim

>>77145413
sê garotinha por favor

>>77145196
1970 team did that too.

Uruguay accomplished the same in 1930 but they only played 4 games.

1970 > 1958 > 1962 > 2002 > 1994

Best Non winners: 1982 > 1998 > 1950 > 1978 > 2006

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>>77145676
>2006
>ronaldo
>ronaldinho
>robinho
>carlos
>kaka
>cafu
>dida

>>77145758
And they played like fucking amateurs. 2006 is probably the worst ever.

>>77145676
>no 2014

shitty list.

>>77145794
2006 was probably the best 'on paper' world cup ever

I dug out my old copy of FIFA World Cup 2006 and was just blown away with the nostalgia of that era of football. Obviously aside from the big names like Brazil, Germany, France, Italy, England etc, even meme-tier nations like Greece, Croatia, and the Czech Republic have so many great players

Truly a golden age of football

Garrincha was definitely the best player they've had throughout the years

>>77145870
2018 will be better. Mark my words.

>>77145958
>Worse players
>Better

Nyet

>>77146013
>Worse players

Says who

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>>77146140
bayol, nerman, messi, penaldo, levedonski, pogmeme, modric

is much worse than
ronaldinho, ronaldo, kaka, riquelme, delpiero, henry, zidane, nedved, totti, maldini, figo

Why do Brazilians think 02 is the 2nd worst?

>>77152477
>le i rate early 2000s
modric and neymar are better than memes like del piero, henry, and zidane, i mean brazilians think 02 was the 2nd worst team of theirs to win the WC yet it was handily the only good NT of the era

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>>77152519
>american flag
>soccer
>serious
Pick one

1958 by far

>>77152496
Because 98 was better so it kinda pales down a little bit.

For example if 82 never existed, people would rate 94 better than what they normally rate

>>77144727
>>77144746
>>77145295
>>77145676
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qmWrKkMvZV4

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>77152610
serbia hardly has any history
hell i dont even think its the best historical team in the region
no being carried by croatia during the yugoslav era doesnt count either

>>77162378
Cherry picking can work both ways.

Now I can't cherry pick any relevant Belgium title. Or ANY title at all.

1970 had at least 2/3 players who were arguably the best in their positions EVER, and they played beautiful football (even for today's standards), evolving from 58 and 62. 94 had some great players, but nobody will argue that we were carried by Romário, just like Argentina with Maradona. And 2002, despite all our star names, played on the classic (and efficient, at that time at least) style of Felipão, who was a mix of individual talent and murderball. It was efficient and a lot of people love them because that's the title most people on this board saw, but they weren't particularly great, just like the opposition we faced on that cup. And about 1982, they are on par with the 1974-78 netherlands on best NT's ever, it was a damn shame that they choked the way they did (and to this day people in here remember them fondly but never let the stigma of chokers leave them, hueland media and supporters have no respect whatsoever for chokers).

>>77152496
Because it was. 02 wc was easy mode af. France and Chokentina out in group stage, Spain and Italy refballed to death, just give a look on Germany's run to the final, worst ever.

>>77152477
>chile best generation
>belgium best generation
>croatia best generation
>portugal's 2nd best generation

And those are all meme nts. France, Brazil, Germany, Spain all look good af. And Argentina has Messi.

>1982 gets more credit than 1994

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>>77162604
>lies
>over 200 countries don't have a star
>the likes of Spain and France only have 1 more star
just apply uruguay autismo and Belgium also have a star, yet Belgium aren't going to put it in the crest, that would be completely retarded

>best team of 2015
>because fifa says so monkey boy
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FIFA_World_Rankings#Team_of_the_Year

>many more honours
yes bubbles, that's right, many more

>>77163126
At least Uruguay have 2 legit World Cups, something you'll never witness your country achieving.

>best team
>can't win championships

Hold onto those wikipedia words, boy. It's all you're going to have.

>>77163163
Don't be rude to Belgium, they're still just kids.

>>77163163
>legit
>ancient crap
you can have 1 + another 1 free of charge

No meme, compare the WC track records of Belgium and Uruguay in the 10 most recent WCs (last 5 decades) and Belgium comes out on top, that ancient crap (the first 10 WCs), meh

>>77163276
What a fantastic accomplishment

>>77163276
Damn, it's so sad to take World Cup eliminations as achievements. Not a single trophy to remember?

>>77163344
blind monkey, already said that's a lie>>77163126

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>>77163378

Why is Belgium so proud of being the Ponte Preta of national teams?

>>77144884
2006 had only big names and everybody on that team played shit

>>77163572
>2nd in a group with Mexico, Japan and Greece

2006 is the most overrated NT ever.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qmWrKkMvZV4

If you watch the full matches it even is worse. How did football even survive? The level of play is appaling. Despite what was written about those WC1970 matches watching it is horribly underwhelming. Laughable standards.

>>77163276
>>77163378
Don't waste too much time in your mental gymnastics trying to prove your NT relevant. If you want to blindly believe on Wikipedia rankings, go for it, but I don't think it weighs as much as an actual trophy. I don't even give a fuck about Uruguay NT, but at least they usually win continental cups every once in a while.

Maybe your country could set a Euro Caliphates Tourney up and win something worth of consolation.

>Le golden generation african refugee

Belgium pls

>>77163651
>who brought up wiki rankings?
>you're seeing things

>a trophy that the likes of Bolivia and Peru win
I'd rather win the Kirin cup

>>77163629
That was the confederations cup the year before, which Brazil won by beating the hosts Germany and BTFOing Argentina in the final.

>>77163722
>I'd rather win the Kirin cup

You wish your team could win any cup at all.

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>>77163763
We have a kirin, you will never own it, many other honours too

>>77163653
>Kompany is half Belgian/half Congo (rightful Belgian clay)
>Nainggolan half Belgian/chink
>Lukaku is full-on Congo (rightful Belgian clay)
Not even as bad as Germany, nowhere near as bad as Huezil

>>77145870
Every team was stacked with mid 90s to mid 2000s massively overrated nostalgia youtube players that couldn't beat south korea in 2002

>>77162557

Belgrade has 2 UCL (EC) finalists, and 1 winner in 1991.

Serbian players played in our 1930. World Cup team and became the first European side to enter semifinals (no Croats and Slovenes were in that team because of boycott).

Olympic gold metal in 1960. (olympic tournament was on par with world cup back then).

And that's just from the top of my head. However, Serbs were the one who made football popular and good in the States, with the likes of Preki, Srba Stamenkovic and our ex goalkeeper Milutin Soskic is the one who trained US goalkeepers like Friedel, Keller etc. and made them world class.

>>77144147
Pelé says 1958 had more great players, but that 1970 had a better team.
I believe it is 1970 because that WC had a lot of teams with their best players ever and because Brazil won all its games, with memorable goals. also because of the "4 number 10 players".
Even some failed chances were memorable, like Pelé almost scoring 1) from the midfield 2) returning a goalkicker shot 3) dribbling a goalkeeper without touching the ball
also because of Jairzinho scoring in all the games.
and also because Commie coach got BTFO

>>77152496
Look at the qualifiers and the Copa América that came just before. Brazil lost to Bolivia, Honduras and even tied to that country west of New Zealand.

>>77170604
Are you retard or just underage? Those results had nothing to do with Felipão's team.

>>77170700
I am 31. So, retarded.

Bolívia 3 x 1 Brazil

01 Marcos Silveira
02 Cafu
04 Lúcio
04 Juan Silveira (Juninho)
06 Serginho
05 Edmilson
08 Vampeta (Gilberto Silva)
07 Émerson Rosa ©
09 Zé Roberto (Denilson)
11 Edilson
10 Rivaldo

>>77170892
Who was coaching?

>>77170892
Losing to Bolivia in La Paz is no big deal m8. It's hard to believe you're 31 and doesn't know this.

>>77170918
Scolari
>>77170967
It is true. But I remember the uncertainty that hit everybody before 2002. "will we qualify?" "will we get through the group stage?"
We had this too in 1994 but not at this level.

>>77171108
But he pass trought this every fucking time (except this one, after Tite came in).

>>77163807
I fucking hate formations with only 3 backs.
Also, I don't get how Belgium sucks dick with those names.

At least half the players are good, with some world class talent.

>>77171470
There's at least 10 nts who fits the same description. Belgium is right at where they belong.

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>>77171470
it's not about names, it's about playing as a team

>>77144865
kek

>>77171639
It's both. See Chile for example

>>77171568
Italy seems dead serious on a back three formation.

>>77171470
>>77174078
>Martinez achieved his best results, especially in cup competitions, using 3-4-3
>winning the 2013 FA Cup largely because of it (with Wigan ffs)
>Belgium have ingrained that system (4-3-3/4-2-3-1 as well)
>have much better players, especially for 3-4-3, than what Martinez had to work with at previous clubs
>have added 3-4-1-2 well ahead of the Russia2018
>Henry's work with the stikers is paying off
By his own admission, the previous manager had no plan for how to attack. The days of pure improvisation are well behind us now. Also, in 2014 Belgium had the 2nd youngest squad at the WC (would have been the youngest if not for injuries) and in 2016 started the youngest line-up in the history of the euros. Belgium reached QFs in each of these tournaments which is a decent start after returning from a long absence. Russia2018 will be the first tournament where Belgium can start players that are all in their prime.

>in 1970 an era of risible, amateurish football came to a close
>Rinus Michels helped usher in a new, far better era
>an insanely attacking 3-4-3 helped him win three European Cups from 1970 to 1973
There's quite a lot of winning history of the 3-4-3, in the 70s, 90s and now after another couple of decades.
Also, Holland in 1974 was a massive leap forward compared to Brazil in 1970. Nostalgiafags seem to agree. They often drool a lot more over muh total football.

>>77164661
>olympic tournament was on par with world cup back then
It wasn't relevant past the 50s
>became the first European side to enter semifinals
getting pounded by the first real opponent after dispatching Brazil's irrelevant era and Bolivia
>Serbs were the ones who made football popular and good in the States
that was the Germans and Italians whom brought the sport and culture originally to this country, and it isnt big here simply because of WWII which ruined the relations between US and Germany/Italy
>Belgrade has 2 EC finals
They don't, only 1
>...and 1 winner in 1991
Porto also won against some French squad in the final after all the good teams killed each other off, in a much more money-influenced era though

I'll give you clubs, but at the national level Croatia still contributed more.