Was Spain 2008-2012 the best NT ever ? >Prime Casillas >Arbeloa

>>77121758
nope

>>77121758
In the meme era, yes

>lost to USA

2002-2006 Brazil
1974-1978 Nederlands

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

>>77121785
>Won Euro 2008, World Cup 2010, Euro 2012 and went to CC 2013 final
Well

>>77121799
lol

and

no wc

Brazil '70

>>77121799
>A NT that lost in the WC final twice in four years is better than a NT that won it

The Brazil of old times could afford to not call the brazilians playing outside their national league and still dominate the WC like no other NT in history
They were ridiculously stacked

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>>77121758
>>Prime Casillas
Lol, no!

>>77121864
>>77121830
dont be jealous

>>77121780
>meme era
the early 2000s would like to have a word with you

>>77121758
98-00 France

>>77121758
They were dominant as fuck, Spain was blessed with this generation. Even their fucking bench was stacked. It was unfair to see this many really good player in one NT at the same time and in practically every position.

>>77121876
Did any notable Brazilians even play abroad back then?

>>77121876
>no competition = being the best ever

What did this nigger mean by this?

>>77121758
Anyone disagreeing is just a redditor or an Aussie

>>77121968
Altafini

>>77121979
The same could be said about this Spain team. No one else was really that good from 08-2012

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>>77121979

>>77121988
It was a boring team with some effective players and one of the worst managers in football history post 2008.
There's literally nothing fresh, groundbreaking or even appealing about the manlet squad

>>77121956
>Prime Barthez
>Prime Thuram
>Prime Blanc
>Prime Desailly
>Prime Leboeuf
>Prime Lizarazu
>Prime Deschamps
>Peaking Vieira
>Prime Karembeu
>Prime Petit
>Peaking Pires
>Prime motherfucking Zidane
>Prime Djorkaeff
>Peaking Henry
>Peaking Trezeguet
>Young Anelka

Even later, Makelele, Sagnol, Gallas, Malouda… Stacked af

>>77121956
Kek
98 France had a really good defense and midfield but the offense was pure trash.
2000 France was really complete and dominant thanks to Henry and Trezeguet, it's a shame that their prime didn't correspond with Thuram and Desailly one.

Short answer yes

>>77122044
>prime Barthez
>prime Blanc
>prime Leboeuf
>preime Lizarazu
>prime Karembeu
>prime Petit
topkek
And Henry, Pires and Trezeguet only reached their prime later.

>>77122030
It won everything despite all of the attempts that del Bosque tried to ruin it.

Also this team is essentially a pure form of tiki taka. Dominated not only on the scoreline but made teams have less than 30% possession consistently and outright suffocated opponents.

>>77121758
All those prime players and they played the most boring football ever, such a shame.

Italy 2002/2006

>>77122100
You probably dont remember Euro 2008.

>>77122030
>the manlet squad
>Ramos, Piqué, Xabi Alonso, Busquets, Casillas, Puyol, Torres, Arbeloa

>>77122100
In 2008 and 2009 it was literally the perfect NT
Defense was really good, Xavi/Iniesta/Xabi and Fabregas dominated midfield and the Villa-Torres duo was unstoppable.
It was only later that they started playing like Pep's Barça and 1-0'd their way to finals

>>77122100
they won cups, that's all that matters

>>77121758
France 98-2001

Also 2006 was god tier but with a shit manager

>>77122210

In 08 the midfield was Senna, Xavi, Silva, Iniesta

>>77122100
>have that generation at your disposal
>decide to reverse-engineer catenaccio

Based Del Boskek

2008 Spain was a different beast, still pre-tiki-taka iki era
>tfw Marcos Senna is actually Brazilian
>inb4 Diego Costa is irrelevant
>only La Masia bros: Puyol, Xavi, Fabregas, Iniesta
>Ruben de la Red RIP

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>>77121758
I like all those players except alba and busquets so I'm gonna say yes due to personal biases

>>77122030
t. Muhammad Rodriguez Matamorros Wahabi Perez, Madridsta por vida

Only with Aragonés, especially with Senna in the midfield. Del Bosque had better players in general (Prime Xavi, Iniesta, Villa and Puyol mainly) but their style was the same as Barcelona without Messi, boring as fuck.

torres is cute

>>77122092
Yet it never felt in control of the match except against germany in the semi and italy in the finals, all while playing the most boring crossover of atari pong and football
>>77122100
Exactly
>>77122176
Xavi, iniesta, villa, silva, pedro, navas,

>>77122044
>98-00
>prime Zidane

that's completely wrong, prime Zidane was 00-05

the 98-00 team's most important player was Deschamps

the NT never recovered from his retirement after 2000, they didn't win shit after this despite all of the other you named peaking at this time, except being world champion of friendlies, which is useless as fuck

Stop with the >boring meme
Spain was pleasant to see, especially for a winning team. 2006 Italy was full Catenaccio, 2002 Brasil was full defense + Ronaldo and 1998 France didn't know how to attack.
It was the first time that I saw a team who knowed to play with the ball in a world cup.

>>77122535
t. Jonathan Smith Garcia López Gómez Diaz CHI
>>77122541
Aragonés was the man. Del bosque a cancer that was hard to get rid of

>>77122616
nah, it was boring. Media outlets whiteknighted them for whatever reason (just like they attacked Portugal for "not playing well" or "getting lucky" as they won the Euro 2016)

>>77122616
win a World Cup*

>>77122638
It was boring because they were keeping the ball a lot, but seeing them play with the ball was really nice, you can't say that for many winning team.

>>77122638
It's because there was an aura of pretentious purism around tiki taka at the time. Every pundit wanted to be know as part of the inteligentsia of the new football

Portugal 2016

>>77122665
Tbh what I liked from Spain and Barca was the restless pressing when they didn't have the ball, but when they had the ball it was a real borefest

>>77121968
>play abroad

Lmao brazilian league was one the best at that time

>>77121758
>Won every ko game with 1-0

Lmao they greece'd their way to the WC title. Worst wc winner ever.

>>77122092
>del Bosque tried to ruin it.
This. I can't believe that guy insisted on playing >torres in every single WC match despite how shit he was throughout the whole tournament and how Llorente destroyed Poortugal's defense in the few minutes he played.

>>77121758
messi should've played in that team too

>>77121758
If you talk about titles, maybe. If you talk about 2000-afterwards, probably. But the best NT ever? It was miles behind Brazil 1970, who had 2-3 players who were arguably the best in their positions in the history of the game, or Holland 74-78, who, despite choking, revolutionized football as we know it. In fact, I can think of at least 4 or 5 NTs who were better than this Spain.

Germany 2012 and 2016 was way more impressive then Spain, get your head out of your ass

>>77125448
>2 Euros and 1 WC vs 1 WC
Get real, anon.

Germany had good chances of surpassing 2008-2012 Spain (they still do if they win next WC) but they choked away the last two Euros against much worse opposition.

>>77125583
Euros dont matter, only WC is a worthwile competition

>>77122568
CUTE!

>>77125817
Lel butthurt junglenigger

imagine if Messi had played for that Asspain

>>77123784
Torres was the best striker in the world up until his knee injury a few weeks before the WC. Del Bosque couldn't take the risk and bench a player that was literally the best player of the squad before his injury.
Of course we all know how it went after that, he became shit, but VDB couldn't know it would happen back then.

>>77122047
Still flabbergasted we managed to win a WC with fucking Guivarch as our main striker desu

>>77125857
>implying he's wrong
lmao ameritards are so clueless

>>77125583
You're overrating euros so much..