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Bust or Star?

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***** UPDATED *****

Please use for shitposting purposes ONLY

Dennis Smith is going to be better than Westbrook.

At their respective age, DSJ is already a better shooter, playmaker, finisher at the rim and defender..

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reminder that basketball is NOT a white boi sport.

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Rick Fox on the food channel

>>77030214
All-Star

He can shoot

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Fucked around a got a triple double

>>77030214
((((((IF HEALTHY))))))) he has potential to be really really good

Don't let Fultz's injury distract you from the fact that he was 3-12 shooting with 1 assist. If you're gonna criticize one player, criticize the others

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Guys have you heard?

Ding just knows how to play. Not a good athlete at all, but is in the right place at the right time on offense.

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>>77030249

>>77030214
Injured 4ever

>>77030246
Fucked around and got a quadruple double you mean.

And two straight L's to boot. Even his dad said the triple double didn't matter because they lost.

Are the Raptors "the Clippers" of the East?

>>77030214
Why not just an above average starter? He doesn't look like he'll be elite at anything or super good all around, he looks like he'll be an Eric Bledsoe level player.

>>77030249
Buddy is the real deal.

The problem I think the cavs have is that every player is only good at one thing except for LeBron, for example

Shumpert is very good at defense but isn't much of a scorer
Kyrie is very good on offense but not much on defense
Love is very good at rebounding but not much at scoring (in crucial games at least)
Smith is very good at shooting but only when he's hot
Korver is only good at shooting

The cavs don't have enough players that can play good on both sides of the floor

>>77030246

Summer league team defense is fierce.

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>8x NBA Champion
>8x Finals MVP
>6x NBA MVP
>5x NBA DPOY
>1x NBA 6MOTY
>1x NBA MIP
>2018 NBA ROTY
>First Team All-Rookie
>11x Scoring Champion
>7x Steals Title
>12x Assist Title
>18x All-Star
>5x All-Star MVP
>15x All-NBA First team
>3x All-NBA Second Team
>2x All-NBA Third Team
>15x All-Defense First Team
>3x All-Defense Second Team
>7x 50-40-90 Member
>Leading Scorer all-time
>Assist Leader all-time
>Steals Leader all-time
>Leading Playoffs Scorer all-time
>Assist Leader for Playoffs all-time
>Steals Leader for Playoffs all-time
>Leading Finals Scorer all-time
>Assist Leader for Finals all-time
>Steals Leader for Finals all-time
>All-time 3-Point shot leader
>5x Olympic Gold Medals
>5x Fiba World Cup Gold Medals
>NBA HOF as Player
>Career averages of: 28/14/8/3/2
>Shooting splits of: 53/44/92
>20 year career all for the Los Angeles Lakers

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Bender is two years away from being two years away.

Can't believe we wasted our pick on this guy.

BREAKING NEWS: CELTICS SIGN ARON VAYNES TO A ONE YEAR DEAL, REST OF THE LEAGUE COMMITS SUDOKU

>>77030293
Kings of the East

>>77030214

>Can shoot the meme ball
I'd say 50-50

>>77030334
>LEAGUE COMMITS SUDOKU
So the league is playing something harder than 3d chess?

>>77030293
They're nowhere near as good as the Clippers lol

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MY BOY SEMI (#37) THE STEAL OF THE DRAFT

Best defender on the Celtics Summer league team, and he can memechuck when he gets in the right groove.

>>77030365
>Clippers
>good at all

LMAO

>>77030332
suns front office is a joke desu except booker and fox thankfully

Marqueese Chriss is absolutely fucking awful

>>77030367
He shot 42.4 from the three and can shoot off the dribble. He's gonna be good

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>>77030367
semi semi semi semi semi

Who is more overrated?
Irving or curry

>>77030423
You act like the Craptors are any better lol. At least the Clippers played in the west

What the fuck even is Summer League?

Jesus Christ Smith is unbelievable

>>77030486
Where the newfags go to ball

>>77030486
A league for mostly rookies and 2nd years (sometimes 3rd and >4th years, career d-leaguers) to get their feet wet against NBA level talent, and for executives to see what these guys are good at at this level.

>>77030500
Never heard of this Jesus Christ Smith. What team?

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>>77030305

>>77030514
Dallas Mavericks, sometimes referred to as "Dennis"

How and why did Smith drop to #10?

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>>77030467
semiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii

>>77030557
Ball-hogger, westbrook style of volume shooting in college.

But boy he can ball can't he.

>>77030557
Incompetence. It's really that simple.

>>77030572
Summer league is so shit lol

>>77030601
>hating on semi with that lockdown D

steal

of

the

draft

>>77030601
*Fultz is so shit

Lol he was guarding that bum

Dragan Bender has absolutely zero chance of guarding DSJ

>>77030618
>the only time he's worn his jersey is for photoshoots

JUST

Predict the best statline for each player drafted in top ten

Fultz: 25.2ppg, 6.6ast, 6.3rebs 45% shooting
Lonzo: 18ppg, 14.2assists, 7.4 rebs 48% shooting
Taytum: 21.2 ppg, 10.3 rebs, 2.4 assists 46% shooting
Jackson: 18.2ppg, 12.3rebounds, 5asts 44% shooting
Fox: 12.4ppg, 7.3asts, 4.2rebs on 38% shooting
Isaac: 15.3ppg, 11.7rebs, 3.8asts on 52% shooting
Markenen: 9.3ppg, 4.6rebs, 3.2 asts on 42% shooting
Nicotine: 10ppg, 5.7 asts, 3.5 rebs 44% shooting
DSJ: 29.2ppg, 8.5asts, 6.3rebs 52% shooting
Kennard: 16.3ppgs, 1.7 assists, 3.5 rebs 46% shooting

>>77030239
>All-Star

He is playing with D-League talent wait to make assumptions about him till he has played a year or two in the league.

>>77030731
>Lonzo
>18 PPG
audible kek

>DSJ
>29.2 PPG
even more audible kek

summer league disclaimer but Collins and bembry look really good. hox gonna extend that playoff streak!

>>77030731
No one is getting close to those numbers

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>celshits

>>77030760
nigga all these players are playing with D-league talent, doesn't mean you can't make snap judgements

>>77030326
This man speaks the truth

>>77030803
He'll be traded before the deadline.

>>77030731
put down the crackpipe

Tell me about Ainge, why does he hoard the assets?

Who would you rather have, Ben Simmons or Lonzo Ball?

>>77030760
>D-League talent and he's still averaging 6 turnovers a game

lmaooooooo

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>>77030846
fuck off philippines he's staying reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

>>77030854
So he can create the Warriors of the East by 2020

Reminder that non scoring PGs are useless in today's NBA. I'm looking at you Lonzo

>>77030619
>implying my nigga Josh Hart doesn't have that "steal of the draft" lockdown D

>>77030856
Lonzo because at least he can shoot the 3 and isn't afraid to shoot the 3. Simmons is afraid to even attempt a 10 footer.

lonzo talks like a 2k player when he is interviewed lol

>>77030893
>>77030866
Bruh you're here all day just stop lmao

give super nate robinson a max contract brehs

>>77030893
Reminder that Lonzo is a great 3 point shooter who isn't afraid to shoot unlike most pass first point guards.

>>77030924
>2/17
>great

>>77030856
Simmons and it's not even close

>>77030893
>this nigga thinks these 2 summer league games means Lonzo can't shoot
He's no Rondo or Rubio when it comes to shooting.

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>>77030917
How's it feel having schizophrenia?

>>77030931

>2 games
>implying

Dont be this stupid

>>77030517
>before the Sacramento trade

Baka

>>77030951
Inspect element or photoshop, nice try Hinks

>>77030953
>barely averaging a double digit 3pt percent

lmaoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

>>77030589
Fuck off you little bitch. You don't even watch NCAA basketball games, let alone NBA.

>>77030945
Yeah lol he might actually be worse than those guys.

>>77030906
>muh maymay ball

It isn't the be all end all fucking hell

>>77030906
Lonzo is the better shooter, but Simmons will be the better finisher in the lane. They're two different types of players. Lonzo doesn't need the ball in his hands a lot to get a lot of assists. Simmons needs the ball a lot to set up assists. Simmons will be the guy who like LeBron goes in to the lane and finishes due to his size and speed. Lonzo on the other hand will be the better shooter. Simmons will probably be the flashier passer, while Lonzo will speed things up more and will get more hockey assists.

>>77030945
Lonzo has been a low scoring player since before college. 3PT% on low volume doesn't mean shit.

>>77030893
Lonzo's not a bad shooter - plus a 19 year old will learn to improve their shot with practice, plus players become more confident in a less alien situation than super league.

Also, wait until Smith faces actual NBA calibre competition before creaming over him.

>>77031000
I know you want to meme, but you don't judge shooters off of 2 games. Thats what averages over an entire season are for. Buddy Hield shot like 32% from the field in SL, and then ended up shooting 39% from 3.

>there are people who claim to know basketball that are saying Lonzo is a good three point shooter

Man Dennis Smith is exciting me again as a Mavs fan, it's nice to see he can create his own shots

Lonzo is fucking shit, why the fuck are you still talking about this clown?

>>77030991
http://www.sportingnews.com/nba/news/nba-draft-2017-dennis-smith-jr-scouting-report-stats-magic-timberwolves-knicks-mavericks-kings/j3ceoi0kibbn1jmiqvvxfnrgy

literally westbrook at UCLA 2.0

>>77031032
*summer

>>77031032
>says Lonzo will improve against NBA caliber talent
>says Smith will get worse against NBA caliber talent

>>77031041
needs to improve his body language

>>77031015
He shot 5.5 3s a game, you retard. Now fuck off celshits fan. You screwed yourself in the draft.

>>77031045
You just proved I was right by posting some retarded article you lazy piece of shit. Quit talking unless you actually watch the damn games.

>>77031015
Rondo and Rubio aren't just low scoring players, they're inefficient. If Lonzo was inefficient, then what does that say about the rest of the drafted players who weren't as efficient in college? Rondo btw, only shot 30% from 3 in college in his best shooting year.

>>77031064
Alright pro scout, tell me how many ACC games you watched last season.

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Westbrook is at the BIG3 game in Tulsa today.

Is he and AI finally going to meet each other?

>>77031050

>what is playing from a system instead of iso chucking shot contest against randoms

Cmon now we all know these kids arent playing real NBA level defensive schemes and having tape ran on them when your a main scoring option.

>I rate Kobe Bryant

1. Has NBA record most missed shots in the regular season.
2. Has NBA record most missed game winners.
3. Has NBA record most missed buzzer beaters.
4. Has NBA record worst shot attempt to assist ratio.
5. Has NBA record as the only Finals MVP to not shoot above 50% in a single Finals game (he did it in 2009 and 2010).
6. Has NBA record worst shooting performance by any Finals MVP in history (40% shooting).
7. Of the top 10 scorers of all time Kobe has the lowest shooting percentage.
8. There are only 13 games in history where someone shot below 50% to reach 50 points. Kobe is responsible for 7 of those 13 games.
9. Has NBA record most missed shots in a playoff series (all time leader in missed shots in the playoffs).
10. Has NBA record most missed shots in a Finals (all time leader in missed shots in the NBA Finals).
11. Shoots 7/28 (25%) in the last 24 seconds in his postseason career to tie or take the lead.
12. Shoots 5/22 (23%) in the last 10 seconds in his postseason career to tie or take the lead.
13. Shot a combined 22/74 (30%) in the fourth quarters of the 2009 and 2010 NBA Finals.
14. Has 69 playoff games shooting less than 40% from the field.
15. Has 16 playoff games shooting less than 30% from the field.
16. Has only 1 regular season MVP playing in a total of 20 seasons.
17. Has never shot 50% or above from the field in the regular season or playoffs in his entire career.

I'm honestly not that impressed by Jackson's athleticism. Not an explosive leaper at all. Poor wingspan.

>>77031038
>>77031044
The worst thing about summer league is all the 12 year olds on summer break.

>>77031078
11 at least for each team. Kentucky, FSU, Louisville, Duke, and NC State plus all national TV games that weren't snooze fests.

>>77031050
Not what I said.

I said players can improve their shooting.

It's also way harder to be a Westbrook-type in the NBA when you're facing tougher competition than college or summer league. It's not hard to end up being Michael Beasley rather than Westbrook.

How hard is russell westbrook gonna rape lonzo the first time they play

>>77031103
>16. Has only 1 regular season MVP playing in a total of 20 seasons.

He shouldn't even have 1, CP3 was robbed

>>77031106
Maybe, I don't know, he's trying not to get injured in a summer league game?

If you watched a single Kansas game you wouldn't say this, you're so fucking reactionary it's painful to read you list off random hot take observations like a fucking sheep.

Stop posting like a fucking retard.

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>3-5

Jayson Tatum shot 34.2% from 3 in college. Lonzo Ball shot 41% from 3 in college. And we're supposed to believe Lonzo is a bad shooter.

Why are people talking about Lonzo like he's the Lakers only hope for the future. Ingram bulked the fuck up and looks like a monster out there. He is the cornerstone of the franchise.

Lonzo will always be considered the second best player on the team.

>>77031129
>he plays hard all the time!
>h-he's trying not to get injured

he had a short wingspan at kansas too by the way

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>Your favorite rookie so far:
>Underrated move of the off-season:
>Thread theme:

Let's hear it /nba/

>>77031121
And Kobr was robbed in 2006. Iverson robbed Shaq in 2001.

>>77031121
Kobe should have 3. He was robbed in 06 and 07 by the Nash 3 seconds or less meme.

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how iconic is this video..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UK7SgqEMkYA

>dat fucking crowd

gives me chills

>he thinks lonzo wont have an easier time playing within a system as a pass first point guard who can find open looks in defenses
>he thinks DSJ will run through the league when after all star break every team has enough tape on you to get you off your game and nobody plays man defense anymore

Smith is gonna be good but the fucking nerve on these people

>>77031129
He's trying dude

>>77031156
Tatum and Fox
OKC signing P-Pat
IN NEW YORK I MILLY ROCK

>>77031032
>Lonzo's not a bad shooter

He's pretty bad.

>>77031007
They aren't really simaler players
Simmons reminds me of a less athletic Greek Freak. He has point guard handles and passing at 6'10 240 lbs, and is very good at getting too the rim. If he can get a jumper he is easily an all star caliber player.


Ball honestly has a very unique skill set. Watch UCLA highlights he is great at ball movement. Many of his assists came right after he received the ball and than passed it too one of his teammates. If the lakers use him right he can be very helpful, but I think he needs a great team at under him to maximize his potential. This is why it made no sense to trade DLO without even trying to play them together.

>>77031163
>fake Ximo Pierto

>>77031156
>Jayson Tatum
>Celties trading down to get a lottery pick + best player in the draft
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l3IaNrnthS8

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>>77031156
Fultz, his spin move is amazing
Dlo to the Nets will improve them a lot
https://youtu.be/aBt8fN7mJNg?t=23s

>>77031196
Yeah I know. That's what I pointed out.

>>77031215

too bad fultz already has a bum ankle

rip

>>77031196
Ball doesn't need a great team. UCLA was garbage the year before. He took a mediocre team to the sweet sixteen.

Lonzo just needs to be around people who can buy into hustling.

>>77031180
Not 100% since he's clearly not trying to blow past people like he usually did in college. He's using more hesitation and change of pace to fake defenders out.

the hate for lonzo really just seems like either a hate for his father lavar or a hate for the lakers

lonzo is a quiet, humble kid that plays his ass off and makes his teammates better, he'll be a star in this league

dont let his father's loud obnoxious mouth blind you

>>77031205
I was playing this in my car stereo the other day and I felt like such a weeb tbqh but it's so damn catchy

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How far are the Rockets going to get next year?

Fuck LaVar Ball

>>77031262
It's more about the hate of the Lakers which is natural. /sp/ were shitting on D'Lo for the longest time and when get got traded he suddenly became underrated.

>>77031262
He won't be a star. He'll be a decent playmaker though. I can't even compare him to Rondo because Rondo was an athletic lockdown defender. More like the next Rubio.

>>77031242
>Lonzo just needs to be around people who can buy into hustling.

Sucks that he got drafted by the lakers then

Bam Adebayo flying under the radar here.

Dude was a beast in the summer leauge. Jonathan Issac too.

>>77031262

dude its just a bunch of loud micro ballers, did you hear the cheers here? >>77031163

the people love lonzo... he's a once in a century talent

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>cruises to a triple double in SL
>people ITT still hating on him

Why are you so mad /sp/ what has he done to you he just wants to be great

>>77031292
I've been high on Bam for a while

>>77031288
Randle, Nance Jr and Kuzma are going to bring the hustle. Bully ball is about having a high motor.

>>77031314

they don't recognize or see his greatness yet

just give them time. I'm serious. Lonzo is the new era.

DSJ has set up maybe ten open threes so far

>>77031314
If he wants to be great he should fix his broken jumper

>>77030217
where is Patrick McCaw?

>>77031333

>Forgetting Nwaba and Bryant

They both look like they are shaping up nicely and Bryant looks like young Dray without the nutkick habit, pace is definately something we want to ramp up

RAPTORS WAIVE HAMILTON

THEY ARE LITERALLY LETTING LEBRON STOPPERS WALK

WTFUGG

>>77030219
you could say that about literally tens-of-dozens of current nba players

Why does James Harden get the most expensive contract? He's not even a top 5 player.

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Welcome to the Wild West, cowboy.

POO

>>77031371
Do any of them share the same athleticism though? That's why I compared those two

>>77031360
im not putting in a second year player wtf

Which team will not make the 2017 playoffs?

Playoff lock teams
Warriors
Spurs
Rockets
Thunder
Timberwolves

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>>77031393
Basketball IQ

>>77031407
IN

>>77031430
???
all those teams are easily making the playoffs

>>77031271
5th seed, bounced by Golden State in the 2nd round after beating the 4th seed clippers

>>77031393
Because the Rockets are incompetent.

>>77031135
>35
>3-5
was Lebron ever good? im new to NBA

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Is anyone else just kinda bored watching Lebron?

2017-2018 Regular season standings
East
1. Cleveland
2. Boston(dont stand a chance against lelbron)
3. Milwaukee
4. Washington
5. Toronto(chokers, poo in the loo)
6. Sixers
7. who cares
8. who cares

West
1. GSW
2. Houston
3. Spurs
4. OKC
5. Timberwolves(5-8 are interchangeable)
6. Kings(5-8 are interchangeable)
7. Nuggets(5-8 are interchangeable)
8. New Orleans(5-8 are interchangeable)
(lakers dont stand a chance at making the playoffs)

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Can The Glove hold Kevin Durant to under 20 points?

>>77031492
lebron is the best basketball player in the world, you're getting trolled by people who have never actively played the sport in their lives

>>77031393
If Westbrook signs his it'll be higher. He's currently the most likely player to get the highest contract in NBA history for the next two years at least. After that LeBron is eligible for a bigger one. But I have a feeling he's leaving Cleveland and Cleveland probably doesn't want to give even him 5 years.

>>77031504
Nuggets and Kings don't make playoffs. Suns and Lakers/Blazers

>>77031502
No not really

>>77031393
Uh excuse me? The top 5 players are:

1. Lebron James
2. James Harden
3. Kevin Durant
4. Chris Paul
5. Russell Westbrook

>>77031438
>tfw too intelligent to try in elimination games and not go to strip clubs immediately afterwards

>>77031533
>Chris Paul

>>77031502
No but try watching some Ball SL highlights, it'll cure your depression.

>>77031533
In no order Kawhi, KD, Lebron, Curry, Westbrook all better than Harden.

>>77031409
Some of them had similar athleticism, none of them panned out because they didn't work as hard as Westbrook. Not to mention Westbrook never was a standout shooter, is only an above average finisher, and never was a good NBA defender in the first place. Westbrook also was far down the list on playmakers in his draft, he simply developed extremely well and got lots of playing time on the shitty Thunder early on. Westbrook has some natural traits that make him great but other than his explosiveness he was never a supremely unique prospect, he just worked hard.

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>lebron is the best basketball player in the world

>3-5
>it's a small world after all

>>77031533
KD
Curry
LePoop
WestGOD
Giannis

>>77030803

>Maxing a 5'6 guard

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>>77031481
Harden is Houston's guy, just accept it

>>77031508
There's a significant height difference in that match up. Ask if Rodman or Pippen could.

>>77031533
???
1. lebron
2. durant
3. kahwi
4. westbrook
5. curry

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>>77031504
>(lakers dont stand a chance at making the playoffs)

Sit Down, Be Humble.

>>77031562
That's what I'm saying. If DSJ works hard then I think he can be better than Westbrook.

can we all now legit say?

Westbrook > Lebron

>>77031533
Chris Paul gets exposed by every remotely good PG in the playoffs, he's not top 5.

>>77031561
>>77031566
>kawhi
>giannis

Literally who?

>>77031566
>giannis over claw

>>77031533
I'd rather have a d league player on my team that Harden. At least I know he'll always try and not quit on the team. Fucking pathetic.

>>77031502
No. He does something new every year. It's a joy getting to watch the GOAT

>/nba/ dickriding gianass

>>77031566
Giannis isn't there yet. He's definitely top 10 though.

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>I'd rather have a d league player on my team that Harden

Is... is Tatum one of Kobe's sons?

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Why is everybody so high on Houston? Right now they are worse than they were last year and are easily inferior to the twolves

>>77031623
I hope not, I want Tatum to be clutch and not dependent on big men to win games

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>This one annoying and unfunny Harden spammer is still alive and didn't commit suicide after game 6

Lmao, name a more pathetic individual.

>Mavericks draft their first not complete shit player since Josh Howard or Jason Kidd

Holy shit what the fuck is going on. It's very strange to watch a Mavs draft pick not play 1 minute per game for half a season then be sent to the D-League.

I'm.... excited?

>tfw stuck with Aldridge for another year

People ignoring Anthony Davis again

I swear to god this guy is criminally underrated for the absurd numbers he puts up

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What if LeBron James might go to the Spurs?

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>>77031637
>name a more pathetic individual

You

>>77030731
Take a lap

>>77031625
Only one guy is and he's a dumbass Harden dick sucker that appeared out of no where before the playoffs started and spams Reddit tier comments and Rackets in all caps plus some retarded pepe image.

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>>77031552

Now he has even more money for strippers

The Raptors have reportedly traded Cory Joseph to the Indiana Pacers for CJ Miles in a sign and trade according to Adrian Wojnarowski of ESPN

>>77031648
He needs to leave the Pelicans to be relevant

>>77031623
more like Wiggins' brother

>>77030731
>Lonzo
>a good shooter in the NBA

Make it 38% shooting.

>>77031648
Orlando T-Mac effect. People just forget because he never wins and is on a shit team.

>>77031648
if numbers equaled wins he'd be top 5. He was overated for the first few years with everyone saying "He'll be the best playing in the league in 2-3 years"

His career highlights include getting swept in his only playoff appearance.

>>77031648
He should just man up and play center already.

The Cousins trade set the pelicans back every one knows it

>>77031672
Disgusting degenerate. Sickening.

Kyrie irving is literally better than harden. Especially when it matters.

>>77031695

Nah he's as good as advertised but he's made of glass and plays for one of the worst run organizations in the league. Seriously, go look at their roster and cap situation. It's a joke

>>77031586
I'm saying that too, lots of NBA players could be better than Westbrook if they work hard, they simply don't. Westbrook also benefits from a certain type of mental motor that just makes him a tryhard at whatever he's focusing on, not just a good work ethic, but a certain autistic focus (which I wish he'd use on defense but whatever)

>>77030471
Irving for sure
At least curry consistently carries his team, and tries on defense, even though he can't lock people down, he gets steals.

Kyrie only scores

>>77031724
>lots of NBA players could be better than Westbrook if they work hard

I disagree but whatever

>>77031648
he should be a 76er with all the injuries he gets. Can't trust him to stay on the court.
>big numbers
>still lose
>inb4 no help

he has help now

>>77031737
>kyrie only scores

Yeah game winners on bitch ass currys face

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An ESPN Special: All Lightning, No Thunder

>>77031724
When a foreigner has better ball knowledge than you
>>77031745

Why did the Process work but Danny can't seem to get any decent prospects (outside of maybe Tatum) in Boston?

Who's better Kawhi or KD?

I say KD but only slightly.

>>77031698
>The Cousins trade set the pelicans back
hopefully, then my Thunder can get him for pennies and they'll be one decent piece from being a contender

>>77031723
Someone with his skill set; (ability to score in the post, mid range, 3), one of the best rebounders and rim protectors in the league should be able to carry a decent roster like the pelicans to at least 2 playoffs in his 5 years in the league

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***** UPDATED ******

DSJr with a big second game.

Jackson was ok too.

Tatum and Fox play later tonight, I'll put their numbers in later.

Can this Harden guy just fuck off already, it's not even funny. At least Larry has his moments.

>>77031766
Durant

>>77031766
KD is far superior offensively and proved to be an elite defender this year. Not a better defender than kawhi but good enough to be the better all around player.

>>77031032
This.

I remember think Glen Rice Jr. was going to change the wizards after he MVP'd summer league a few years back.

He barely made any impact off the bench, and was out of the NBA in a year or two

Guys I'm not really a football fan I'm mostly Celtics/Redsox fan so tell me why the same media that sucks the Patriots dick on everything they do seem to think everything the Celtics do is bad? I'm kind of a pessimistic Celtics fan. I don't think Hayward is enough to beat the cavs/wars/spurs/etc and I think that Isaiah is overrated. But if you listen to all the media talk about the Celtics you would think that the entire team is so bad they will finish last place in the NBA next year. And everything they touch turns to shit suddenly.

Before Tatum joins the Celtics: Really talented draft player and has good offense skills and defense.
After Tatum joins the Celtics: He's crap, He's overrated, he's a mistake, not a good fit for the celtics, his numbers in the summer league are inflated, etc.

Before Hayward joins the Celtics: Straight up baller player, great all-star free agent that will greatly improve the team wherever he goes.
After Hayward joins the Celtics: Barely mediocre player, bottom feeder all-star, only on the celtics to take up cap space, etc

>>77031782

Tatum out here hooping.

>>77031798
Arguably just as good as Kawhi when he's engaged. Not as lethal with his hands on the perimeter but makes up for it with his insane length disrupting both the perimeter and the rim.

>>77031778
>3
he's terrible at the 3, only thing he's bad at really

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Name my rap group /nba/.

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>>77031789
Who's better? James Harden or Michael Jordan?

I say Jordan, only slightly though.

>>77031778
Not when the West is absurdly stacked and he's on a dogshit team.

>>77031782
3- 5 from the meme?

GIVE HIM THE MAX

>>77031811
(((((They)))))) hate us (Bostonfags) because they ain't us, but no one can hate the GOAT. Most of this general is jealous because the Celtics went from a rebuilding bottom-feeder team to one of the best teams in the league so quick and can only get better with their endless high draft picks

>>77031778

It what world has the Pel's roster outside of AD ever been decent? Even now they only have Cousins, who takes up a lot of the same space AD does, and a massively overpaid Holiday.

Aron Baynes has played for the following teams

Spurs
Pistons
Celtics

We outchea

>>77031829
Guys who get carried by someone who's better in their field

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>the Celtics went from a rebuilding bottom-feeder team to one of the best teams in the league

the delusion

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>>77031782

>2-16 from 3
>12%

>>77031816
>Tatum out here hooping

Yeah but in the summer league we gotta wait in see how he performs once he playing in the pros

>>77031811
Because Ainge has no idea how to cash in his assets properly and keeps on adding small forwards to the team despite having like five of them already.

>>77031825
In his last 2 years (The only years he's really shot the 3) he's shooting 31%. Not great but good enough for the defense to respect it. He's got one of the best offensive skillsets of any PF/C (maybe second to cousins but still up there above the blake griffins and embiids). He has yet to win 1 playoff game.

>>77031890
He's still here wtf how long can you go without sleep lmao

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>>77031586

>>77031811
Patriots have high expectations and meet them. Celtics also have a winning history and have high expectations but have failed to meet them in the last few years. Whether it be failing to get a good free agent or draft high caliber talent or make a franchise trade, they've lowered everyone expectations so when they do make moves, people expect them to fail in the end.

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Eat a dick memetics, see you in October.

>>77031854
>endless high draft picks
It ends next year.

Lakers will end up with the 2nd or 3rd worst record. D'lo's Nest will be a 7 win team.

>>77031586
That was one of the knocks against DSJ in his scouting reports for the draft. The fact that he was said to be lazy. The other was that he had t-Rex arms.

>>77031908
yeah wow its almost like even in a talent oriented league, you need at least average players to pair with your superstar to do anything in playoffs

its a miracle theyve even made it to the playoffs with that abysmal roster

>>77031959
Well he's at a good organisation now.

Yeah he's got a small wingspan but he's a point guard so it doesn't matter as much and he's still got strength and quickness

>>77031987
>strength and quickness
everyone has this in the NBA

>>77031934

so much reddit

>>77032001
He has ABOVE AVERAGE strength and quickness. Holy shit do I really need to spell this out for you. How many point guards in the NBA right now are better athletes than DSJ?

>>77031958
Hawks, Bulls and Tragic will be tanking hard next year. Bulls best player is over-the-hill Wade and Hawks best player is Bazemore.

Celtics will most likely get the Nets pick at 3 or 4 but they aren't getting the Lakers pick next year. Lakers have no reason to tank.

Not a bombston fan but they've done a lot better job rebuilding than anyone else in the east.

>Pistons go almost 10 years without a playoff appearance and are back to rebuilding after an 8th seed

>Magic are stuck in l 13-10th seed hell with retard-tier trades
>Nets are shit with no future for at least the next 5 years
>Knicks are perpetual garbage
>Hornets are perpetual garbage
>76ers have turned themselves into a laughing stock just so they could have 4 1st picks, all of them put onto players who are injury prone
>Bucks are still irrelevant

You can't deny they've rebuilt the best since losing their big 3

>>77032028
>Bulls
>tank
lmao no those jew owners won't allow it
they may have gotten rid of butler but they still have enough talent to unironically make a playoff push in the east (as sad as that sounds)

>Haws and Tragic will be tanking
Maybe, but they won't catch the nets in terms of horribleness

>Lakers have no reason to tank
lmao they weren't tanking this year either
they just suck because they're way too young

>>77032028

Hawks best player is black German. He is the franchise now

>>77031910
You're always here when he's here hmmmmmmn nice pattern

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>>77032026
must i spell it out for you? pic related.

>>77031829
Lmao, Ice Cube just randomly started a mini concert at the game and did Today Was A Good Day for Westbrook because the triple double line.

LMAO

>>77032053
>Not a bombston fan but they've done a lot better job rebuilding than anyone else in the east.
go to sleep, you are not fooling anyone

Did Lonzo redeem himself?

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>>77032097
Fucking Based

>>77032058

Nah the bulls will be straight up bad this year. Lavine doesn't come back until allstar break, Dunn still has a bunch of growing to do, and the rest of the roster is shit. They are tank city

>>77032085
I have the 4chan api notify me on my smartphone whenever someone matching his pattern posts

>>77032058
Lakers finally got a worthy veteran presence in Brook Lopez. People are really sleeping on Lopez. Lopez helped the Nets win 20 games which is a huge accomplishment especially after Lin got injured.

Lopez is an above average center who will fit perfect in Lonzo's system. Also, Randle, Clarkson and Ingram are all a year older with more experience. Ingram bulked up big time in the offseason. He and Randle have been practicing like crazy.

Lopez, Lonzo, Bryant, Hart, Kuzma >>> D'Lo, Mozgov, Lou and Swaggy P

Lakers are a 30-35 win team now.

>>77032140
They may be bad, but I don't think they'll be tanking. They certainly won't be bad enough to be top 5 lottery pick.

>>77032028
>Lakers have no reason to tank.

Some teams can legitimately suck

>>77031430

>Timberwolves
Nope

>>77032152
>Lonzo's system
kek is he the fucking coach now

>>77032163

name 5 worse rosters than the current bulls. Keep in mind their coach isn't anything special either

>>77032152
Lopez is an upgrade indeed.

Ingram did not bulk, looks literally the same, and he even came down with cramps because he's out of shape. But he should be an improvement anyways.

Clarkson blows
Randle blows
Lonzo is a rookie and you should not expect anything major from him.

And you are now playing in an absolutely ridiculously stacked West.

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All this lonzo hate, what is wrong with you guys, the guy got a triple double, lonzo is part of the trip dub club, or TDC for short.

>>77032053
Bucks are definitely not irrelevant. They struck gold with Giannis. He unironically could be the best player in the league after LeBron retires. They also have plenty of young talent.

>>77032235
He's certainly apart of the ugly race mixed nigger club

>>77032205
Nets
Lakers
Tragic
>Knicks
Kings
Philly
Might be on par with the Mavs
think the Hawks will be better

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>Lonzo's system

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>people are STILL mad at the uprising

get used to it

>>77032123

>2-16

>>77032260
The kings have an alright, middle-tier roster right now if their youth develops at all

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>>77032302
BALL
DUNN
OG

>The kings have an alright, middle-tier roster right now if their youth develops at all
They're starting roster is literally the summer league team.

>>77032218
West is really top heavy, but after the T-Wolves(who knows how good they'll be), there are a bunch of beatable teams that had their talent diluted (Clippers, Grizzlies, Jazz).

Also, Randle is a double double machine. I agree Clarkson is a sixth man playing as a starter, but Randle puts in the work and is an athletic freak.

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>West is really top heavy, but after the T-Wolves(who knows how good they'll be), there are a bunch of beatable teams that had their talent diluted (Clippers, Grizzlies, Jazz).

>this Lakers delusion

>>77032346
C: WCS
PF: Randolph
SF: Tyreke
SG: Hield
PG: Fox

Yeah, this team fucking sucks. Could easily see one injury lead them to a huge tank.

>>77031798
>>77031766
I understand where you guys are coming from but I've seen KD choke or come up short so many times, he's just not as consistent as Kawhi, especially defensively, and when things begin to start breaking down, he always seems to revert to iso-chucking, even at Golden State at times...I'd rather have Kawhi on my team tbqh

>>77032260

The bulls are easily worse than all of those except maybe the magic and nets. Their best player is old ass Dwayne Wade. They have a mediocre bench and a bunch of young guys. They'll be lucky to win 20 games

>>77031710
you mean
>nigger
?

>>77031672
Tell me why his shirt looks like some stripper from backstage took a shit on it.

>>77032346
Are you forgetting their free agents?
George Hill and ZBo surrounded by athletic young guys and Vince Carter sounds alright to me

>the Kings are going to be a middle-tier team because of Vince Carter and George Hill
>the Lakers will win games this season off the Clippers, Jazz and Grizzlies
>the Bulls are the worst team in the league and their mega jew owners will allow them to tank

lmao wtf is this general

>>77032413
His black hand is moving, probably from making it rain.
Cameras can't capture motion so good

>>77032413
tell me why when you have all the money in the world you still mess around with the most unattractive race of females on the planet

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>>77032431
>the Lakers will win games this season off the Celtics, 76ers and Clippers

repaired that for you.

>>77032350
The west is as strong as ever. Warriors Rockets Spurs Thunder and Timberwolves are all top tier teams. Right below them are the clippers nuggets and possibly the trailblazers or jazz. Even then you still have the pelicans with anthony davis and demarcus cousins and the albiet weaker grizzlies. The lakers aren't going to be a 30 win team because of a rookie, some scrubs, and an aging center who plays 40 games a season.

>>77032431
Lakers are going to win games this season because dumb ass teams like the Celtics made retarded moves in the offseason. Lakers are Hayward's kryptonite.

>>77032481
Yes. I'd put money on it.

t. Lakers lifelong

>>77032481
>The lakers aren't going to be a 30 win team because of a rookie, some scrubs, and an aging center who plays 40 games a season.


Will this Celticsfag ever go to sleep?

>>77032431

Yeah lakerfags are delusional but the kings got better. They were almost a playoff team last year til they traded Cousins.

As for the bulls, they don't have a choice. Their roster is nets tier bad. Sometimes teams lose just because they aren't good enough instead of outright trying to tank

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>>77032481
>Right below them are the clippers nuggets and possibly the trailblazers or jazz.
LOLKEKJAJAHAHA

>>77032481
>he lakers aren't going to be a 30 win team
you 55 win team cuckzilla.

>>77032494
>>77032513
i like you guys

3 on 3, who wins?

Team 1:
Steph Curry
Giannis Antetokounmpo
DeAndre Jordan

Team 2:
John Wall
Kawhi Leonard
Anthony Davis

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>>77031393

but thats wrong

>>77032494
Hey man, when you're tanking I've always thought teams should go all in on some reminder-of-the-good-times gimmick (or gimmick in general if there were no good times).
Like how the Sixers should've had Iverson these past 10 years, and how the Celtics are giving up their best player for a white guy so they can reminisce about Bird

>Be cuckston
>iT4 wears kobe shoes
>be gaytum, kobe is his fave player
>be larrry bird, hang out with magic to hang up on danny ainge

you're on the wrong side of the rivalry senpaitachi.

>>77032562
You're right. He's not even top 15.

>>77032481
>twolves
screen cap this random all lowercase anonymous post
46 wins

>>77032544
>they were almost a playoff team last year til they traded Cousins

So somehow they got better??????????

I'm so fucking confused, these lines of logic make no sense.

And the Bulls roster is still not Nets tier bad they were LITERALLY a playoff team last year, even without Butler and Rondo they're still not that (Nets-tier) bad.

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Kobe has faced the hardest competition in NBA history.
(Hold to see full photo)

I can't get over the fact that the Knicks took Ntilikina over DSJ. I really can't.

So what (yes Ik it's summer people) rookie are you guys most impressed by so far?

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>mfw lonzo breaks westbricks triple double record