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>Official Site Links:
Draws: www.wimbledon.com/en_GB/draws/index.html
Schedule: www.wimbledon.com/en_GB/scores/schedule/index.html
Livescores: www.wimbledon.com/en_GB/scores/index.html

>TV
UK: BBC
USA: ESPN, Tennis Channel
Europe: SKY & Eurosport

>Official Streams (Geoblocked):
www.bbc.co.uk/sport/live-guide

>Stats:
www.tennisexplorer.com/wimbledon/2017/atp-men/
www.tennisexplorer.com/wimbledon/2017/wta-women/

last thread: >>76995954
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>>76999883
Based Lisicki

Still <3 u bb
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second for sascha
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Why is McEnroe still commenting despite his DISGUSTING comments about Queen Serena?
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>>76999919
everyone agrees with him
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I hope Andy Murray dies on centre court and shits his pristine white shorts.

Also, fuck Sue Barker. I hate her.
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>>76999927
I don't

The only men Serena wouldn't be able to beat are top 100
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>>76999883
why are you such a WTA shill?
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>>76999883

>EBSL ASSUMING THE POSITION

AH SI, BUENO
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>>76999919
England gives a shit about Amerimedia
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>>76999919
You mispelled "objective"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNs_nn_qBIQ
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>>76999874
Best outcome
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REMINDER THAT IF YOUR COUNTRY DOESN'T HAVE A TENNIS PLAYER WITH A KNIGHTHOOD YOU ARE A NON-COUNTRY
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faze will win
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>>76999919
>Disgusting
He was pretty generous. Murray doubted she'd get in the top 1000 to begin with for example.
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nadal isn't getting beaten unfortunately
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>>76999945
He's commenting for American media only
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wimbledon has just become people watching at this point
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why is federer's play so easy on the eye?
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>>76999940
>Also, fuck Sue Barker.
I volunteer! haha lads.
Lads.
Banter lads.
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Will fap to op photo

>>76999877

Lame af but still saved
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>>76999963
As an Englishman I'd rather Federer be knighted over that mouthbreathing bastard
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>>76999963
t. SCOTLANDS COWARDLY SCAM
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is there a tennis match going on?
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Digits for Federer, the GOAT of GOATs
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>>76999883
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based kerber will win Wimbledon
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GET >>76999999 FOR /TENNIS/
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>>76999974
Imagine her purple, dry, blown out, old pussy. Labia sagging the ends of which look like they've got necrosis because they've turned black.
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>>76999991
that fucking tripname
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>>76999942
Why did nobody take my bait
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>>76999966
lets hope bro fuck sk cheating favelas
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>>77000005
what's wrong with her mouth, Christ.
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>>77000002
You tried
>>77000000
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>>76999963
The only Queen I recognise is one that SLAAYYYYYYYYSSSSSSS, YAAAAASSSSS!
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>>76999937
>real peruvian
been thingken about this
I think iz time for Inca-Aryan solar Reich soon

ancient Atlantean technology hidden deep beneath the Andes, when time is ripe will b used 2 usher in2 new satya yuga
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somone post the Murray vs Moth H2H

best meme /tennis/ has ever produced
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>another meme player
jfc slams have been so shitty this year
first week is pretty much skippable
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>>77000015
yes yes you don't need to sell me on MILFs.
I'm already rock hard.
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>>77000039
Cringe
>>77000051
Hm
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>>77000000
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>>77000029
Clearly forced smile for a pormo shoot. Her smile is very charming when it comes from the depth of her sweet heart.
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Andy Murray
BBC Tennis coverage
Wimbledon crowds

I loath twee Britishness and all of these things need to die.
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>>76999963
>supported scottish independence
>still gets knighthood
lmao just lmao
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>>77000058
w2c milf
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>>77000076
*promo
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What happened to American men's tennis? I feel like we used to be a pretty major force in men's tennis but now you look at the rankings and we're non existent
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zverev in melt down mode. happens when you have a 20 mph backhand
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>>77000058
>5 minute videos

Bitch, Tara Tainton is over there doing hour long videos with shit loads of emotionality and I gotta try to work myself up and finish in 5 minutes!?
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What does it mean when an avocado has those brown hairs?
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Djokovic looks miserable in this interview
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>>77000094
kelly hart

her porn is mostly solo wanking off a camera calling you her son.

not that I watch it on a weekly basis.
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>>77000119
Link
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>>77000067
HILARY/CHELSEA 2020!
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>>77000078
endorse this post
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>>77000108
Pat McEnroe and the USTA killed it
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>>77000108
>What happened to American men's tennis?
usta forces all the good kids to attend college or train at their shitty academis

also all the genetic freaks play sports that PAY MONEY.
if you don't make it to the top 100 you will end being poorer than a kid who bags groceries at walmart.

so america gets stuck with bored rich kids and niggas like tiafoe and donald who don't have bbcs
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>>77000110
>yank porn
Fuck you zionist dog.
British accents are a necessity for ejaculation.
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>>77000108

autism and/or american coaches are trash
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>>77000134
It's on ESPN right meow
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>>77000108
Courts got slow as fuck and you have been producing nothing but Sampras clones.

America is doing fine in average tho. Lot's of players in the top 100
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does no one have it???

>>77000054
>somone post the Murray vs Moth H2H. best meme /tennis/ has ever produced
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>>77000156
Well then, go for the much preferable Lucy Mariexxx.
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that shot is the shit yo
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Why does everyone in /tennis/ have such a bad case of mommy issues?

Or is this weird porn just british thing?
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>>77000171
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so the semi-finals are all but confirmed, right?

Murray - Nadal
Djokovic - Federer
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Anybody get a cap of that girl's pants then?
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>>77000188
>2017 not having mommy issues
don't act like you didn't wanna suck on her titties after getting good grades fag
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>>77000188
All female tennis players have big thicc juicy thighs, it's unavoidable.
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>>77000188
>German lecturing others on incest porn

Aren't you famous for scat porn?
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>>77000188
I think everyone on this site is a degenerate, it's just a question of what type of degenerate.
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>>77000200
Murray - Cilic
Federer - Berdych
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>>77000200
Bold prediction anon
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>>77000196
keked and saved
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I don't think that this is how it works?
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>>77000200
As much as I hate Nadal, I hope he rapes Murray and then climbs into the crowd and stabs his wife in her pregnant gut.
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>>77000205
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>>77000196
>3cm
was he from chile
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>>77000220
well that's kind of the point of my post m8, no one looks like they can beat them
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>>77000235
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>>77000235
Thanks anon, I knew I could rely on you
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>>77000235
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>>77000235
Fuggg
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Do you put the mozzarella directly onto your pizza dough or do you have to wash it first? Asking for a friend.
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>>77000188
everyone here is desperately lonely and they've got to the stage where they confuse the affection received from their mothers with something sexual

if they would go outside once in a while and interact with people this might be reversible, but I wouldn't hold out hope
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>>77000235
This is some really great work lad, thanks for the effort.
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>>77000235
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Faze is so cucked. Only rain showed up this map.
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>>77000235

britbong pantsu
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>>77000226
>>76999940
>>76999986

did murray fuck your gf lad?
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>veiled spectator
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>>77000235
muh
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>>77000006
this is a racist board, i only come for grandslams. for a short while
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>>77000272
first you speard the tomato sauce and add mozzarella on top of the sauce. i never washed mozzarella and never heard of anyone doing that
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>>77000283
anon pls...
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>>77000235
>It's been almost 4 (four) years since you saw a girl in her panties
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Alex Zverev would be more likable if he the same personality of his brother
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>>77000226
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>>77000215
feet and pits here. I don't consider it degenerate tho
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>>77000305

the world is racist. get outta londonistan to realize this
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>>77000272
never heard of anyone washing mozzarella
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>>77000111
>NOT GETTING DOWN IN THERE TO GET A SELFIE NEXT TO HER ARMPITS

CASUALS
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>>77000235
Is that her beaver?
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>>77000316
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>>77000325
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>>77000226
t. Murray's wife's mom's husband
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>>77000235
is no one going to point out that those two tennis balls are levitating
i realise the upskirt is important but come on guys
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>>77000314
bs
I've been on a beach in Rio.
Half the women don't bother wearing anything.
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i love my city #latviaboy
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>>77000360
>pims in a can
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>>77000365
cute hands
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whos the varg of tennis?
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>>77000319
I don't live in London.
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>tfw federer playing at a mere 25% of his abilities and coasting past zverev
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>no tennis tomorrow
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>>77000365
You chew the skin around your fingers too?
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>>77000396
He killed someone so Venus.
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Despite having slightly more, the balance between Thiem's UEs and winners is better than Donaldson's.

Outstanding that Federer in this match has a ratio of over 8:1 in that regard as of this moment.
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>>77000416
sadly
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>>77000362
You understood me Nigel.
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gabe and mikey retweeting gud frogtwitter content lately
I wonder whether thei're mindlessly '''curating''' content or the're fully baking the program
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>>77000421
kek
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>>77000314
lmao I think the last time might have been when I was 5 when boys and girls still shared lockerrooms for P.E.
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>>77000430
Literally me lad
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>feditrov
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>Roger will retire in your lifetime
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Abandon firstborn
Put all attention on second son
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>>77000314
i live with my mom and sis. i see that shit everyday
gets old
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I love tennis but it needs more replays between points
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>>77000396
Petkovic

>stop watching ATP
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>Federer and Thiem ended the match within seconds
A harbinger
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>>77000430
>>77000466
You two should meet up and nibble on each others fingers.
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>This match had more games than Djoko's match but lasted 25 mins shorter
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box office
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>mfw zverev fell over
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gotta teach tennis to 3 brats today
what drills should i do with them?
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>>77000491
>hippie shit backpack
>designer purse
I hate millennials
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>>77000491
KEK THATS THE DUANE READE ON SPRING AND LAFAYETTE I WAS THERE YESTERDAY

PRETTY TYPICAL ASS FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD 2BH
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>>77000526
bench press + serve
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>>77000542
This
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Wish Masters had stats as detailed as GS do.
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>>77000542
>>77000566

of course
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>>76999883
oh jesus my dick is twitching on its own
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>>77000108
Roddick believes it's cyclical. I agree with >>77000149 too. I don't think you're doing too poorly considering the number of top 100/150 players you have, you just don't have another Sampras, or even Courier or even Roddick-tier player. Just like us.
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>thiem won
roger comeback destroyed? inb4 he complains about the grass not being his usual standard of quality
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>>77000111
B L A C K E D
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>>77000625
NIGGA THAT GRASS IS TOASTED

FUCKING DIRTCOURT

BONGS RATIONING ALL THEIR WATER FOR THE RAPEFUGEES OR WHAT
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based Willis
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>>77000613
I think the case of your country is different. What's has always held the current french players back is their lack of mental fortitude, not talent. In the US is actually the opposite.
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>>77000683
Is the big four the worst meme in tennis?
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>>77000703
It's big three, really.
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>>77000712
Big 2 until 2015.
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>>77000737
2011*
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>>77000712
true 2bh.

wawinrinka has played three 10/10 tournaments in his life, and has been 7/10 at best in every single other one in his career.

as a murray fan i'm jelly that wawrinka always finds a way to get the job done when he gets an opportunity, its impressive how well he's played in his GS finals
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>>77000703
its lazy journalism
wish i was good at tennis so i could bash them 24/7

what the easiest playstyle to copy so i can become a pro by 2020 lads?
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>>77000697
Their lack of work-ethic more like. The current crop of French players all have the exact same flaws in their physical conditioning and technique as they did ten years ago. All of them. Tsonga still has a shit backhand and shit return, Gasquet still has a shit forehand and shit upper body strength, Simon is still a twig, Monfils still gets injured due to not giving a fuck consistently, Paire still has a garbage serve, one of the worst in the top 100 while he's over 1.90m tall, nevermind his FH. Mental fortitude bullshit, they just didn't iron out their flaws. That's why Wawrinka could get past his mental midgetry while the others couldn't: his game was already there and solid, he had to find the right mentality to make it click and become a GS champ'. Even if any of the Frenchmen grew a spine, they all have flaws that would prevent them from winning a slam unless the draw got cleared of every seeded player.
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>>77000712
>it's a big three

it's not though, is it?
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>>77000764
If you were good at tennis the journalists would be on your payroll.
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>>77000768
what about pouile?
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>>77000785
Here comes the Murray shill
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>>77000756
Before Wimbledon 2014, Federer had 17, Nadal 14, Djokovic... what 6 or 7? He was closer to Murray than to the BIG TWO.
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>Federer: "Serve accuracy is so important on grass, more than pace, around 120 mph it's more than enough if you place it well"

BENCH AND PRESS AMERICANS ON SUICIDE WATCH
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>>77000801
It's more about tour dominance.
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>>77000801
Six, Wimbly 14 was his seventh slam.
>Federer and Nadal have won one slam each in 3 years
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>>77000712
>i don't rate murray
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>>77000787
Too soon to tell, but so far he hasn't been consistent enough and able to cope with the weight of the expectations. He's not as impressive to me as Tsonga was at AO08 even when he was on a purple patch against Nadal at the USO (granted, Tsonga was on cloud nine).

But I'm also terrible at /bet/s so I'm not going to count him out, but I don't think he has the same level of raw talent as Zverev or Kyrgios (who also won't win a slam unless the star align and he learns how to return a serve). He's perhaps more akin to a Thiem that hasn't maxed out his potential yet.
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>>77000799
how am i being a shill exactly?
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>>77000831
Then you have to leave Murray in too
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>>77000813
Queery's the only one left anyways
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ostapenkGOAT
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>>77000963
this
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>>77000768
I honestly think you are being too harsh on your players. I'm pretty sure Tsonga has fine work ethics, you just can't have the kind of body he has without training hard, but there are just things some players can't really iron out no matter how hard they could be trying. Actually every top50 and even top10 has some kind of flaw, that doesnt mean they dont bust their asses trying to correct it.
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>>77000785
three grands slams. literally wawrinka level. fig three, 'the other two'
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reminder that Murray is in the top 10 of all time for career win%.

laughable to try exclude him from the big 4. he is an alltime great whether you like it or not
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>>77001027
>ivan lendl
>american flag
lmao
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>>77000988
>I honestly think you are being too harsh on your players
Nah, we're just talking about the fine margins that get you over the fence, that's all. I have the utmost respect for anyone who's ever been a Top 100 player. All of them are incredible tennis player.

I still do think that even if said players went on a purple patch, they wouldn't have won a slam unless the star aligned. And it happened. Tsonga had a good chance at Wimby 2010 but his inability to return got him killed against a more clinical player with better ground game (Andy Murray, who then lost to the eventual winner in the semis). Gasquet had a good run and was really there mentally and in terms of fitness at the 2013 USO, but his inability to generate pace with his upper body and his shit FH got him killed against Nadal. Monfils had match points against Federer at the USO and more than a couple good runs at Roland; same shit.

I don't think you can compare any of them to Wawrinka: even when he was admiring Federer from afar, Wawrinka had a more complete and better game. He really just lacked a spine. The current Frenchmen lack far more than that, so when they get it together it's still not enough. Talent and potential only mean that you have to work some more.
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>>77000840
>Kyrgios (who also won't win a slam unless the star align and he learns how to return a serve).

That guy has a lot of work to do if he wants to win slams, his movement around the court is disastrous. It really shows he barely trains anything at all but his serve, and has practically zero physical conditioning work aswell, thus his shitty hunchback posture.
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Just watched Halloween. Carperter truly is the GOAT.
Tried to search pics of Borg and McEnroe drinking Coke in Wimbly 1981 but couldn't find any.
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>>77001095
To me Kyrgios has the talent, but I don't think he's gonna do anything with it unless he goes on an Agassi-tier makeover and sort his shit out. Funny how their career paths look somewhat similar despite their completely different games (and behaviour: both were/are manchildren but Kyrgios really is a fucking dick).
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>>77000888
He was never dominant like the other three
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I'm so happy today :) I met my best friend, and on my way home I listened to some great songs and just kinda dance walked without caring about people looking
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>>77001159
he was crushingly dominant over literally every single player on tour, other than the best 3 players of all time
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>>77001159
Murray dominated the second half of 2016, la
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>>77001204
Literally no, maybe after 2015 but even then it's not even close.
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>>77001153
kawaii
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>>77001081
>Monfils had match points against Federer at the USO and more than a couple good runs at Roland; same shit.

And that's exactly what I'm saying, if that isnt lack of mental fortitude then I dont know what is. Good god I cant recount the times I've seen Monfils and Gasquet buckle under pressure or Tsonga just going apeshit during a match and start swinging wildly and making unnecessary UE's, as in his match with Wawrinka during this AO. I believe, that more than anything, the ability to remain clutch under multiple BPS, during a tie-break or a deciding set if you have gotten broken is what mainly separate the more succesful guys at this level. Because if we talk about technique, they all, but a few hopeless cases, are at about at the same level.
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Biggest reason to exclude Murray is that he got constantly rekt by the other 3 whenever it really mattered.
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>>77001248
literally no?

are you literally retarded? please explain how how he wasnt.
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>>77001303
>Ever putting a man with Three (3) GS wins in the same category as men with 18, 15, and 12 respectively.
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who is the hottest tennis chick right now.

i haven't paid attention since sharapova beat serena that one time

i used to fap to sharapova beating other girls. when they shake hands after the game i like to think how she lets the other girl know she dommed her

lesbian dommes. yes
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>>77001343
Fuck off
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>>77001309
>are you literally retarded?
please, stop
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WHy no play on sundays?
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>>77001397
It's God's day
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>>77001397
do you need to ask?
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>>77001299
>if that isnt lack of mental fortitude then I dont know what is
Terrible tactics. Monfils did notice after the fact that had he put pressure on Federer at that point he would've gotten what he wanted. He didn't and went to his defensive ways yet again. It's not like he literally pushed it in the middle or comitted an UE or went apeshit: he just didn't do what he was supposed to, and he's been playing passively all the time in his career. He got him far enough against players who broke their teeth against his incredible defence but that's not enough for winning slams. Even if you're Andy Murray and always anticipate the right side on defensive smashes.

>Because if we talk about technique, they all, but a few hopeless cases, are at about at the same level
Of course, these are all but minute details. But
Djokovic fixed his serve. Murray's 2nd serve isn't that good but still better than it used to be. In his first lost Wimby final he looks like a twig and he's much thicker when he wins the USO. Wawrinka committed to his FH for fucking once. Federer got a BH and so did Nadal; Nadal's did his serve over in order to wint eh USO (then stopped hitting that hard because apparently the returns were coming back faster that pussy). Every Frenchman play exactly the same as they did ten years ago; they just got older. To me mental is a part of it, but that's not enough. Well, the way and how hard you practice also is part of mental fortitude anyway.
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reminder that anti-murray shitposters are delusional.

one of the best players in the history of this sport, whether you like it or not
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>>77001441
Possibly the best choker and waste of talent of all time.
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>>77001397
tradition. and grass needs a rest.

they'll play on it if they need to catch up due to rain delays during the week. happened last year
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>>77001441
>best in the the history
Nope
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>>77001464
>>77001464
slightly agreed, but he;s playing against nadal, djokovic and federer the undoubted 3 best of all time
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>>77001343
Dodin.
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No pedo but how do I watch wimbly juniors?
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>>77001494
>tennis is only grand slams

found the casual
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>>77001502
He's been rather passive in some of his finals, though.
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>>77001397
Church.
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>>77001417
Best Doggo
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>>77001526
>>77001506
typical gabe backing out of a debate
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>>77001422
>Terrible tactics. Monfils did notice after the fact that had he put pressure on Federer at that point he would've gotten what he wanted. He didn't and went to his defensive ways yet again.

And why did he use such terrible tactics? Sounds like a mental block to me. We are going in circles.

>Nadal's did his serve over in order to wint eh USO (then stopped hitting that hard because apparently the returns were coming back faster that pussy).

It's true that the first time he started serving very hard was during the 2010 USO, but I read that the reason he stopped serving like that was due to the fact it was giving him tendonitis in his shoulder, not because people were ballbashing his serves.

>Djokovic fixed his serve

I'm not sure about this one, it's still a liability but the guy can more than compesante with his endurance and consistency. Before 2011 he was constantly out of gas. Before that year it wasnt too rare having him reatire out of matches a lot not being able to handle the weather conditions or a random injury.
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>>77001502
He has a rough era. I'd love to see him win a handful more slams and secure a better legacy, but he's destined to lose to Querrey this year.
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>>77001524
agreed. he had a crap mentality for the first 4 or 5. too scared.

i think he will be disappointed if he ends his career with less than 5, given the amount of oppurtunities he has given himself to win them. i think he has the poorest win% of anyone who has made 5 or more finals
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This sets shit is the dumbest way to count points since the electoral college
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>>77001299
I think Mcenroe or Borris mentioned this today that only 1/2 % separate the top 4 and the rest. mean top 20.
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sharapova is so perfect

tall beautiful and athletic
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>>77001696
Also heartaugmented
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>>77001696
This

Short girls are disgusting. Do you want your sons to be manlets?
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>>77001601
>And why did he use such terrible tactics? Sounds like a mental block to me. We are going in circles
Sounds like the definition of insanity: doing the same thing over and over (and harder) and nothing changes.

>but I read that the reason he stopped serving like that was due to the fact it was giving him tendonitis in his shoulder, not because people were ballbashing his serves
Both. He had shoulder issues too.

>I'm not sure about this one, it's still a liability but the guy can more than compesante with his endurance and consistency
His serve was complete horse shit, pic very much related. Obviously his fitness got way better, but there was some technical changes to his serve. It's awesome, but it's not a painful flaw like it used to. Just like Nadal.

To me, a player who's roughly in the same situation as Wawrinka was is Berdych. Solid game but mental midget. Well, he seems very content with his career. Outside of a red-lining Tsonga, no Frenchman is close to that level nor has show the potential to get there in the first place, nor they've displayed significant progress in their base level. And Tsonga can be shut down through his shit return and shit backhand. The same garbage that held him back against weaker players despite not bottling out mentally. Oh yeah, and his diesel-tier starts where he can't focus for the first few games until he gets going.

We do not have and haven't had a slam winning player since Noah. And I don't mean a player who can occasionally get here like Tsonga or Leconte. I mean a player whose base level is good enough to get in multiple finals (in order to win just one); something at least Roddick-tier.

>>77001666
I do agree with that. I mean, you can watch Challenger level tennis for free™ (legally, on the ATP's website), and the level isn't that far from the Top 100 or even the Top 10. But however minute their flaw are, they're just mercilessly exploited.
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>>77001744
>It's awesome
It's not* awesome, of course.
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>>77001743
i unironically got into tennis from fapping over sharapova in 2004
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>>77001721
what
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>>77001696
objectively perfect
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>>77001790
WWTL
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>suddenly 2 zverevs

P O T T E R Y
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>>77001744
I suppose that level (1 or 2%) must be huge in tennis. From a person winning multiple GS to being a player berdshit all your life.
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>>77001641
He played well in his first Wimbly but like in last year's FO, he won the first set but disappeared after that.
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>>77001641
Roddick has the worst 1 win out of 5
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Schedule for Monday is pants on head retarded, Konjuh - Venus on CC over Kerber - Mugu or Halep - Vika.
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>>77001696
>>77001743

which wta player has the fattest ass?
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>>77001863
yeah the first wimbly was a heart breaker. he was well on top and imo was going to win it until the rain delay. after the roof closed it was just a different game, federer is just an absolute animal in indoor conditions
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>>77001977
Pre-aids Lisicki.
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>>77001967

going to be honest here, i've genuinely never watched a full wta match in my entire life. never even watched a slam final. just does not interest me at all.
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>>77001835
Well to give you some perspective, let's talk about the serve. From the moment your racquet is on edge and you initiate the final stage of the throwing motion (which is globally what the serve is), the position of your hand within a couple of degrees determines where the ball goes. And you can, within a handful of degrees at most, hit nearly anywhere on court including in the alleys. And that adjustment of a couple of degrees occurs in a time frame that's about as big as a hummingbird flapping its wings twice or something. Which is why the best servers are unreadable: you're in the back court trying to figure by how many degrees in either direction their hand shifted in an absurdly small time frame. So when you put the ball a foot wide or out of the box, you've missed by a couple of degrees at post and your swing speed did the rest. I'll see if I can find the video.

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ZLQCsAR_Wk

The irony is that the human eyesight is such (id est garbage at tracking items in motion) than even if it's coming significantly slower, a 100mph serve is visually the same as a 130mph serve. Even if you get your racquet on on the former.
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>>77001178
Good post
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>ywn pat Roger on the chest and tell him 'good try ol' chap but no cigar'

Just end the misery.
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>>77001977
Cirstea if we talking nicest ass
Townsend if we talking biggest
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what were the g20 protests actually over? right or left protesting?
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>>77001977
Thiem has the biggest ass in tennis
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>>77001967
>murder a man
>undeservedly get put on CC
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>>77002055
a bunch of commies and "anarchists" memeing irl
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>>77002066
Serena is bigger
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>>77002055
Retarded """""pipo"""" against globalism
>>77002066
Think succc's is bigger
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>>77002066
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>>77002193
Imagine being a physio and getting to masssge that ass
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>>77001977
Unironically pic related
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Annyone just laugh when they hear commentators talk about shocks or upsets in womens tennis like they're trying to implying any of these players are at a high enough level to even be considered invincible. The only one who can even be considered that in WTA is Serena and even when she loses who really gives a fuck? Its highlights the underpinning problem with womens tennis, the hyperboles shit out by the pundits and the hype generated for shit that is literally who fucks up the least. I fucking turned on the tv today and there was womens matches on both BBC1 and 2 like forcing me to accept that this shit exists and anyone actually cares, the crowd was leaving, can they please stop shilling this sad excuse for a sport?
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>Which leaves MTF in most ruins?
>the leading option is "Nadal wins Wimbledon without facing any quality opposition"
>mfw it's happening
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do not bully me for this but I consider u all frends

the regulars at least
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>>77002580
/tennis/ posters are literally my only friends.
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>>77002643
hmmmmm ok champ I wud not go that far but w/e
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>>77002643
>>77002580
wow i was feeling really down today but u guys cheered me up
ily
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>>77002700
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>>77002569
But that's just not true. Muller, Querrey-Anderson, and Cilic are among the best you can go against on this surface, Muller and Cilic especially considering their recent forms. Querrey aswell is mighty dangerous if he has an inspired day like against Djokovic in the previous Wimbly or early this year in Acapulco. If Nadal manages to win those matches and do so in few sets it wont be because they arent quality opposition, but because his level is just that high at this moment.
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>>77002580
I love you too
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>>77002580
>>77002643
Sometimes I think /sp/ gets a little too normie-friendly and then I see shit like this
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>>77002580
I don't have any friends but I still have enough self esteem to not like any of you
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>tfw haven't spoke to a person in a week because I didn't had to go to the supermarket

/tennis/ you're my only friends
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>>77002580
Made hotdogs with fries for early dinner (4:30)
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>>77002818
thats late lunch (having dinner at 11:30pm)
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>>77002802
Yeah I fucking hate hate /tennis/ I jsut don't know anyone who pretends to watch tennis like me
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>>77002643
>>77002700
lmao gabe btfo
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>>77002643
>>77002794
>>77002802
>>77002805
can you spare a thought for those who unironically have no friends and delet this
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>>77002865
no
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Really want a cigarette tbdesulads
>>77002834
>11:30 pm dinner
That's not dinner, it's Savagery.
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>>77002805
I think the only thing that makes me not go insane is a huge family.
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lmfao it was joke u nerds
I'm meeting IRL friends later and gonna hav a grand laff @ yall homos replies
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>>77002865
>thinking I am being ironic
ha,ha no, It's gotten to the point where I've kind of forgotten what the point of friends is to begin with.
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kys selves

watchin the fed match, breddy gud form
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>>77002865
How the hell do you think we manage to be every saturday evening in 10is when we actually had friends?
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>>76999883
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>>77001790
>you will never have a russian girlfriend do this to you
atleast he owned up to it
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Pornography is banned here
Plz post lewd tennis bunda
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>>77003188
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>>77003188
pornography is banned in /tennis/ too
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Emmentaler is not bold enough for me
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>>77003225
Whomst is this fellow nail biter
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>>77003275
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>>77003006
even when im just kickin it with my irl friends im still lurking and posting in ten from my phone..
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>>77001790
kek
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>>77003250
65 in the world. kournika pt 2?
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>>77003310
kournikova*
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>>77003297
????
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>>77003275
genie
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>>77003350
concussion really messed with her judgement
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banned on sp
banned on sdgq chat
should i just kms
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>>77003310
She's still young. Could see her meming for a year and getting top 20. Can't ever tell for sure with wta.
For me, she is hottest player tho.
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>>77003297
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>>77003297
My ass is bigger than that
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>>77003406
>sdgq chat
I don't know what that is
>>77003415
Why do femme 10is players like rafa so much?
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>>77003505
lemme see
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>>77003578
You didn't see my cousin and you'll certainly not see my ass.
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>>77003687
Pics of you're cousin. PLEASE.
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Can I put in my application that I help out developing google(tm)'s self driving cars? What with all the mobile captchas
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>>77003769
I miss the food ones desu
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>>77003814
now it's nothing but geese, vehicles and street signs.
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>Perhaps the hope for the rest of the field came in Federer's press conference where, looking remarkably relaxed, he admitted that if wife Mirka felt it was in the family's interests to end his career, he would have no hesitation in doing so.
>"Without her I couldn't do it," said Federer.
>"If she said 'I don't want to travel anymore', I'll say, 'Okay, my career is over'. It's as simple as that. So she's the key to a lot of this.
>"But she's happy to be doing it - not on a weekly basis because travelling gets too much with four children, so I went to Stuttgart and Halle on my own.
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>>77003883
She needs those checks so she's going to force him to keep playing until he's 40
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>You'll never be swiss
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>>77003188
what do you fap over?

immagination faps? used to do that when i was 12 before internet
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>>77003944
I fap while looking into the mirror. I am a Greek god.
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>>77003297
I forgot how bouchard has an unremarkably flat body
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>>77003944
>12
>before internet
Damn nigguh how old are you? I've had internet since 97
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>>77004055
Not him but I never used internet til maybe 04? 06 I believe is when we got """"high speed""""" internet.
t. 23 from poor family
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>>77004055
24

didn't have my own pc/unfirewalled internet til i was 15
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Thiem again, against itchy bird.
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hav a theory
jesus waz greco-buddhist monk, the mount of olives a linguistic corruption of mount of figs and the 'cross' a metaphor for the position of the legs during medtation
opinions
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>>77004736
my theory is jesus was reborn in upstate new york
t. joseph smith
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>>77004736
>>77004809

either way, i'm on God's side. can't stand the devil. he's bang out of order. i think he's an evil, evil idiot
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>>77001977

Elena.
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>>77002003

Is she dating black guys now?
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>>77004866
Nigger post baba haas
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>>77004894
No idea, wouldn't surprise me though
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Drinking organic Honduran coffee
It's alright.
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how is milos playing this tour? hes gonna beat sascha zverev, right?
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>>77005106
MIlos is a top lad, been playin' well and should beat the lanklet
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>>77005020
any coffee is just "alright" unless u roast and grind the beans urselv'e desu
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>>77004736
>>77004861
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>>77005146
This is false. Bad post!
Grinding u're'selv's is absolutely necessary but roast beefing them your self? sad!
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>>77005106
He's been straight dookie since Ljubicic left

>>77005020
Drinking wodka it's horrible
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>>77005184
There is literally no evidence that the sun will rise tomorrow.
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>>77005196
>>77005137
also ive got berda v thiem, surprised thiem made it this far desu
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>>77005211
Meaningless.
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>>77005230
The way the grass has been playing has helped Thiem but also he hasn't faced any significant opposition. I think it'll be a very good match vs berda and we will find out for sure whether Thiem is an all surface threat already.
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>>77005290
Btw anyone have more tennis-players-looking-at-balls-they're-gonna-hit photos?
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>>77005211
Actually yes there is. It's called physics.
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>>77005106
Probably.
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>>77005184
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>>77005423
Physics cannot predict the future. It can say that an event is highly, highly probable but it can't actually predict in any and all cases
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>>77005528
Is that your imaginary foe?

Religion is cancer.
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>>77005677
thick as pigshit
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>>77005807
Not really you faggot. For an area of study that deems itself rigorous you'd think they'd care about preciseness of language.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=kJRp3IRX2Vo
Video related: your intelligence
>>
Good tennis nations:
UK
France
Switzerlnad
USA
Serbia
Spain

Tennis non-countries:
Argentina
Brazil
Australia
Finland
UAE
Canada
Germany
Netherlands

sorry to tell you that mate
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>>77005970
>UAE
F
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>>77005970
you're welcome for rusedski
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>>77005889
Not watching your kino americancer, are you really claiming there is no evidence the sun will rise when it's been that way for as long as you can remember?
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>>77005338
just google "x hitting ball"
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>>77006032
I have been alive as long as I can remember therefore I will be alive tomorrow and forever.
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>>77006113
inductive reasoning utterly and eternally BTFO
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>>77006113
>godfags
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>>77006177
Even further. These lot say 1 & 1 make two. Yet look at what happens when 1 raindrop joins another. They make 1 (larger) raindrop. Same when two souls meet.
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Penko 10 hours, she might fck this up.
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>>77006230
Elina svitolina: known choker. Osta will b ok.
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>>77006478
Nope. She's had a great run though.
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Thiem wins Wimbledon
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>>77006222
Pure delusion.

Religous dogma is mind rot.
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>>77007023
Explain to me then how a video game doesn't have to follow the laws of physics? Can't explain that.
>everything has to obey the laws of physics
>well ok not these things
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WHERE IS KEI-KUN?!
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>>77005970
>Serbia
>Switzerland

One player babies.
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>>77007148
A video game is a simulation where you can set the rules, pixels are appearing to move around, no pysical laws are broken. bedthiem.
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>>77007298
btfo by a spic
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>>77007345
Wawrinka, Troicki, Tipsarsevic = miles better than anyone from Brazil in 10 years
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>>77007410
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>Weebs
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>>77007487
Not really a good argument, isn't it? Brazil has zero tradition in tennis aside from Guga.
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>>77008371
Well you have just as many slam titles as bongland
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>>77008396
>Guga
And Bongland isn't an elite tennis nation either.
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>millions of people unironically allow the opinions of Hollywood """""pipo""""" to shape their opinions
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>tfw no games on the 9th
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>>77002773
this
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>>77008435
Ever heard of Fred Perry?
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Post Wimbledon 2017 pictures
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>>77001977

I rate Martina Hingis.
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>>77006054
>burn the stands down Andy, no one would know it was you
>y-yes my master
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hi 10is what match should i watch today
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>>77015166
brrraaa-
no
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>>77015302
F1
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>>77010887
Nadal: ........hhh......h.h.........ACHOOOOOOOOO
Murray: herro ching chong how err yoor todarr
Federer: Hnnnngggggg
Novak: leMonkeyFaceXD
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>>77015444
t. verstappen
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>>76999974
Shes a massive dyke. She bearded for Cliff Richard ffs.
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>>77004894
Shes gay isnt she?
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y r there no matches today
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>>77016016
day of our lord and saviour jesus "jc" christ
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>>77001441
>one of the best players in the history

True when it comes to skills. Only thing is that he loses lots of finals and semifinals. Somehow fails in the key moments 90% of times, and this, my freind, counts a lot as you can understand.
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>>77002580
i feel you friend
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>>77004736
shit thierry
>>77016037
y iz final on sunday den
>>
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>>77016253
to aunor him
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@77016279
don't do that here
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>>77016265
fuck god btw
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>>77016292
fuck cows
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>>77016300
lol!!!
ekshoolee my familie is Xtean. u = btfo
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>@ing iz my gimmique
fedoraman.png
>>
>thinking you can tell me what to do using my own gimmick
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Why does this thread exist on a sunday? Absolutely haram. Mods please delete.
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remember to report and ignore
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>>77016408
go get a job, you lost link between chimp and man
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>>77016427
yo: bar sinson
usted: onero
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>>77016510
>triggerado
>>
_____ is made in the air before the ball bounces, generally near the net or inside of the service line. It is usually made with a stiff-wristed "punching" motion to hit the ball into an open area of the opponent's court.
>>
_____ is struck from the non-dominant side of the body by bringing the racquet across the body (showing the back of your hand to the opponent) and swinging the racquet away from one's body in the direction of where the player wants the ball to go.
>>
_____ have a tendency to go significantly longer than tie-break sets.
>>
Because tennis is scored set by set and game by game, a player may lose a match despite winning the majority of ____ and/or ____ played.
>>
A ____ is a groundstroke or volley that is hit lightly so that it barely goes over the net.
>>
this dutchposter is a literal ___
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>>77016726
volley
>>77016735
backhand
>>77016755
games
points
>>
>>77016746
deciding sets in slams
>>77016775
droppers
>>77016786
autist
>>
>>77016775
dropshot
>>77016786
idiot
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>autist
>idiot
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>>77016842
just bante w/ the las
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>>77016852
its funny, i like it
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>tfw killed the thread
im so sorry guys :(
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>>77017085
It's okay lad, we all make mistakes. We're all human, after all.
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>No tennis on sunday
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>>77017112
ty that means a lot :)
>>
>>77017085
Don't worry, I think I killed it myself
>>
>>77017133
Its the sabbath day you heathen
>>
>>77017177
>>77017133
It should be the day of the british grand prix
>>
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>at least there is F1
>VWL
oh well
>>
>>77017258
worst thing bikes are not back until august t b q desu
>>
>>77017112
>we're all human
>picture of a robot

????
>>
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>>77017279
thatsthejoke.jpg
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>>77017352
>thats the joke
>picture is actually from the djoker

?????????
>>
I can't wait to see Nadal btfo Murry once again in the semis.

England's Greatest
>>
some folks are born
>>
>>77017916
>Nadal
>grass
Mu'r is in his element.
>>
>>77018001
Djokovic however was created
>>
>>77018027
Kek,do you even know that Nadal has reached 5 consecutive Wimbledon finals from 06 to 11?

2012 to 2016 were really really bad years for Nadal.

He is finding his old form again, Murray will get btfo.
>>
>>77018224
i cant mention certain nationality, or all the xxxxx posters will come and attack me, but ((((they)))) think murray is like a grass god or something

cant wait to see nadal btfo him in straights
>>
federerwinslol
>>
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Will he ever recover?
>>
test
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>>77018440
Why is he training in a lobby?
>>
>>77018440
>>77018830

notice how not a drip of sweat is on him
>>
>>77019176
you could be right, but it could also be because he's a conditioned pro athlete
>>
>>77019232
explain legod then?
>>
>>77018830
Where else is he going to get those Beats™ headphones ad money?
>>
>>77019498
probably a pr move. since tomic is on tin ice and nicks the next to blame
LOOK GAIZ IM TRAINING EVEN THO ITS REALLY BECAUSE I HAVE MENTAL OF A CHILD
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>>77015221
>>
am i b&
>>
>>77018440
Twig arms
>>
Save us Rafa
>>
>>77005211
>>77004736
>>77004861
>>77016037
Save this for your offline life, religion is pure degeneracy.
>>
>>77005970
Serbia and Swiss can be removed from 'good nations' and Argentina added.
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>>77014412
I don't get it
>>
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>>77020840
Like this friendo.
>>
>>77006113
>forever
Nice try, I didn't claim the sun will rise eternally, just tomorrow, based on past evidence.
>>
>>
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Kevin for breakfast
>>
>6 days of hot
I fucking hate summer
>>
>>77022224
I wish I only had 6 days of hot.
>>
Daily reminder that Gulbis is back

Fifth time's the charm!
>>
>>77022353
Don't you have AC?
>>
>>77022389
Electricity bills are expensive.
>>
>>77008435
>And Bongland isn't an elite tennis nation either.

>current world #1 in singles
>4 players inside the top 75
>top 10 player in doubles
>won numerous slams in singles and doubles in the past 10 years
>won davis cup 2 years ago

WRONG YET AGAIN GABE
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>>77022475
So is heating in winter for us. and yet every flat got one.
>>
>>77022525
i dont think anyone thinks this is even remotely funny except you.

sorry to tell you that mate
>>
>>77022526
I have an AC as well, but if I use every time the weather is hot then I'd barely have money to eat even.
>>
>>77022499
>a south african
>a slowenian
>a drug addict
>doubles
Only thing good you got is that weird family from murdertown
>>
>>77022586
Low qualifications or simply no good jobs?
>>
>>77019176
I don't sweat while lifting (intensely, something he probably isnt) but I've been doing it for years
>>
>>77022587
>germany
>two russians
>a pole
>a serbian
>a jamaican
>0 good players

kek.

KEK
>>
>>77022389
>tfw your ac ded
>>
>>77022692
it's time we change our definition of what it means to be german moe 'mohammed' abdul
>>
>>77022637
both.
>>
>>77022692
Germany is shit, i know but so is the UK
And you have Wimbledon income which makes it even more pathetic.
>>
>>77022717
t. Zlatko "Zlatty" Mudrazovic
>>
>>77022579
t. that slag
I find it hilarious
Oink
>>
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>>77022642
Post bicep
>>
>>77022732
>, i know but so is the UK

yeah, you can keep saying this all you want, its not going to make it true.

>an elite player and world #1
>4 insdie the top 75
>women's top 10
>doubles top 10
>davis cup win

every single country in the world must be shit at tennis, if that, by your definition is "shit"
>>
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comfort katie
>>
>>77022830
Hh it's you again bladie, im off then.
>>
>>77022890
what??

speak english spic
>>
>>77022830
>an elite player and world #1
That went to train in Spain as a junior, otherwise the LTA would ruin him like they did to his brother.
>>
>>77022830
A scot
South African
Slovenian
Cokehead englishman

Women
>Hungarian Australian

2nd best is a nigger from jersey

>doubles
Scot

Face it

England

Is pure dog shit because your

Pathetic nation is

Cucked and soon Muslim

xddddddddd

A Vile people
>>
>>77022825
Post the Kuckuck one
>>
>>77022938
there is no "scotland" in tennis

only BRITISH.

BRITISH AND PROUD
>>
>>77022825
My body is like nadals albeit with more symmetry and better proportions
>>
>>77022499
Gabe's a true sophist. The thing he claims to despise.
>>
>no tennis matches at all on eurosport 1, 2 , bbc 1 or 2
what the fuck is going on, why are they all forcing me to go to the web to sign in and gibs them money to watch tennis matches?
>>
>>77023025
p-prove it
>>
>>77023045
>
>>
>>77023025
He's got a dad bod doe
>>
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>sunday has no gaems
>>
>>77022938
>my points make more sense if I spread them out
>>
>>77023047
don't have any full body mirrors, literal bane of my existance, people always wonder why I look myself in big reflective surfaces assuming it's pure narcissism :(
>>
>>77023033
Gabe's so quick to start arguments/debates but as soon as you hit him with one reasonable post he goes missing and doesn't reply to your posts, every single time without fail.

an absolute fucking coward and an intellectual weakling
>>
>>77023093
give him a pump, good lighting and a bit more tan and he'd look like a fitness model. He does have severe muscle imbalances but all 10is players do
>>
Schedule for tomorrow

Men
13:00 Querrey (24) - Anderson
13:00 Bautista-Agut (18) - Cilic (7)
14:30 Thiem (8) - Berdych (11)
14:30 Raonic (6) - Zverev (10)
14:30 Murray (1) - Paire
14:30 Nadal (4) - Muller (16)
16:30 Dimitrov (13) - Federer (3)
16:30 Mannarino - Djokovic (2)

Women
11:30 Radwanska (9) - Kuznetsova (7)
11:30 Kerber (1) - Muguruza Blanco (14)
11:30 Rybarikova - Martic
11:30 Ostapenko (13) - Svitolina (4)
13:00 Vandeweghe (24) - Wozniacki (5)
13:00 Konjuh (27) - Williams (10)
13:00 Konta (6) - Garcia (21)
13:00 Azarenka - Halep (2)

Weird that women all play at the same time.Not complaining tho.
>>
reminder that BRITAIN invented tennis. you are only allowed to play this sport because WE ALLOW YOU TO.
>>
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>>77023070
wait, you mean they're not playing today?
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>>77023169
wrong again
>>
>>77023191
welcome to middle sunday
>>
>>77023157
Men:
Anderson 4 sets
Cilic 4 sets
Raonic 4 sets
Murray 3 sets
Nadal 3 sets
Federer 3 sets
Djokovic 3 sets

Women:
lmao couldn't care less
>>
>>77023202
Stop replying, let him talk to himself.
>>
>>77022968

>>77023025
>no proofs
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>>77023209
jesus, I'm sorry I had no idea
>>
put a link to the bracket in the OP from now on
>>
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>>77023229
its ok my fellow mate
>>
>>77023213
>wants to ignore me
>has given me the most (You)'s in the thread

why are you so THICK and RETARDED gabe? and also a HYPOCRITE.

are you just seething because i smashed your ANTI-BRITISH rhetoric and you have no counter arguments because you are a BUMBLING IDIOT and PSEUDO-INTELLECTUAL CLOWN who couldn't debate his way out of a BROWN PAPER BAG?
>>
>I can direct peoples will, holy shit this kid needs hanging
>>
>>77023202
Do you take orders from a brazil nut?
>>
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>>77023157
Sam
Cilic
Thiememe
Miloš
Murri
Muller
Fed
Djokocuck
>>
>>77023157

Women
Kuzzy
Kerber
Rybarikova
Svitolina
Coco
Konjuh
Konta
Azarenka

Men
I'm not as gay as >>77023210
>>
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gabe is an alt-right fascist.

do not reply to fascists
>>
>>77023500
>>77023500
>>77023500
>>77023500

nuevo hilo
>>
>>77023436
>i-i-i need to watch women's tennis with a boner to express my sexuality!11!!!!

t. beta virgin
>>
>>77023485
>stalking his twitter
>>
>>77023344
>Cream and sugar + candy bar = breakfast of the champions

no wonder she's getting fatter and fatter
>>
>>77023536
Things are reaching UTV tier.
>>
>>77023531
löl wimbly wambly strikes again
>>
>>77023485
My parents have a copy of one of those creepy paintings in Gabe's background. Thanks blog
>>
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