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LONZO "BUST" BALL

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THIS NANOBALLER

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

*inhales*

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
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Fully exposed as a meme. There's no recovery at this point
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Smith & Wesson retirement plan when?
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>>76983707
Jesus christ he was THAT bad?
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>>76983707
BOI! YOU BETTER STAY IN YO LANE
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>>76983707

how long will ESPN try to keep this meme afloat?

pretty clear to anyone that watched he has no business being on an NBA court
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we need a webm compilation of every missed 3, pronto
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>it's only summer league, he'll be better when he's playing against NBA players
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>>76983707
>can't hit 3's
>keeps shooting them

I thought he was suppose to have high basketball IQ. If the shot isn't falling, attack the basket, or just stop shooting.
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>>76984086
he actually started doing that towards the end

he missed those, too
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>being a small baller while you're signed on BBB

Haha fucking Lelker faggots blown the fuck out
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>P-please buy my shoes
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>>76983707
>mfw he turned down an 8 figure endorsement deal from Nike/Adidas/Reebok/UA
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>>76984242
He needs to see a dentist
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>>76983906

the game score is right on the front page of espn.com with the tag under it saying lavar is promising playoffs
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>BIG C.UCK BRAND
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We're watching another Todd Marinovich case unfold right before us.

Why doesn't this kid have the balls to tell his family "Fuck you, I'm not doing that"?
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dude leave him the fuck alone he's a Laker he's not gonna be a bust

jesus christ
\
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>>76983707
That screen shot is from the beginning of the game you twat
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>>76983707
getting 15 shots in the nba is pretty good, i back him to be an all star still
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Now THIS is memechucking
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I TOLD ALL YOU /BBSD/ NIGGER FAGGOTS THAT HE WOULD BE SHIT
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>1 for 11
Why did he keep chucking?
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>tfw magic calls up Ainge to see if he can trade Lonzo Bust
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>>76985760
>>76985847
haha true, future westbrook that passes
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>>76985640
a) No, it's not.
b) That wouldn't make it better.
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>>76985996
>small baller defending his small baller overlord
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>>76983707
on the real if he even shot at 40%/30% that'd be a pretty good line
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/SP/ SAID ZEKE ELLIOT WAS GOING TO BE A BUST AFTER ONE GAME SO UH YEAH
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>the state of minuscule ballers ITT
need to stay in your lane desu he's just making sure his teammates can play without him
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How did anyone expect him to perform? His dad ruined his fucking career with all the pressure he put on him
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>>76986185
Memes aside, this; don't really feel bad considering he's a millionaire, but guy might have been a good player...
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>>76985640
lmao no it isn't
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>Lonzo LOL
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>>76986185
>>76986469
I'm certain most people aren't really expecting him to take the Lakers to the playoffs this upcoming season, but, considering how high he was drafted, would RotY-tier numbers instead of lobotomized, volume-shooter numbers be too hard to ask?
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>>76986185
Daddy BALLER only promoted his son, retard. Lonzo never had to say anything or catch any shit meanwhile his BDB does the attention whoring himself and memes his son's way to the pick and team they wanted from the beginning.

It's just one game, newfriend. Michael Jordan wasn't an all star in first summer league game.
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>>76986498
*much to ask
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Future G-League MVP confirmed.
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Fuck me they wont let me return my BBBâ„¢ shoes because i used them once or twice.
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Who else is screenshotting this post and saving it for when Lonzo ball takes his team to the playoffs?
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>>76986586
Not me
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I hear the NZ breakers are looking for a new PG
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>Weird af shooting form that works in an amateur league like college bball
>Awful footwork
>Awful first step
>Can't into Eurosteps
>Awful defender
>Average athleticism
>Mediocre handles and dribbles
What were people expecting? It was pretty obvious that the kid needs tons of polishing before he is even half decent
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>>76986586
Looking forward to that sweet "4chan BTFO" post you make in 2021 when the Lelcucks make it as the 8th seed and get swept
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>>76986586
>inb4 get swept by the GSMillenials and then the Jimmywolves for the next 5 years
>by then Lonzo will already be released and the Lelkers still have no top FAs
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>>76986699
his stroke really is wonky
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>>76986586
The West is like 11 teams deep at the moment the Lakers will be back in the lottery next year except their pick belongs to the sixers lmao.
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He played a horrible game but the Lakers lost by like 3 or 2 points.

So what happens when Lonzo is playing well?

Anyone notice how packed the arena was for just a simple summer league game? Love him or hate him the BBB drew in that crowd.
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>>76986874
its Summer League. Most of these guys will be deep bench players or in the D-League
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>>76986852
>to the Celtics
Fixed
>Inb4 it won't drop in the 2-5 range
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>>76986874
>He played a horrible game but the Lakers lost by like 3 or 2 points.
Because they played with sophomores against D-leaguers and rookies. Lonzo was ass
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post yfw Lavar was the true big baller all along
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>>76986911
>lakers get the firs pick
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>>76984298
Golden teeth for golden man.
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>>76986955
>Silver will allow the sixers to hoard more assets
The process narrative is over. The Celtics building a dynasty is the new narrative. Read the script. Before you @ me
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>1 for 11

Holy shit that is Westbrook levels of chucking
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>>76987028
Westbroke actually makes at least 5 of them though.
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>>76986930
Nope sorry but the Clippers had the most experienced players.

Don't believe me? Here are some citations

http://basketball.realgm.com/nba/teams/Los_Angeles_Lakers/13/Rosters/Summer_League

http://basketball.realgm.com/nba/teams/Los_Angeles_Lakers/13/Rosters/Summer_League
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To be honest if you are tall enough how is it even possible to suck at basketball?

Defense is literally not allowed in the sport.

So why wouldn't you just practice chucking every day until you're like a 50% 3-point shooter and guaranteed millionaire?
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>>76986699

I was expecting him to get drafted at around 8 or 9. He seemed like a project from what I saw when he played in college
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>>76987065
>just because you practice something you automatically get better at it

Hand-Eye coordination doesn't just "become" elite. It's not a muscle memory thing. It's a trait that you either have or don't. And it varies.
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>>76987042
http://basketball.realgm.com/nba/teams/Los-Angeles-Clippers/12/Rosters/Summer_League
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Lonzo clearly needs to work on his shot

His passes were gorgeous lasers, and his bbiq wasn't bad (those shots were wide open, so the correct decision is to take them even if he's cold)

Just needs to get his shot back. He's adjusting to the NBA 3, he'll find his stroke again
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>>76987102

Of course you can train hand-eye coordination.
According to your theory it's literally impossible for anyone to ever learn how to juggle.
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>>76987131
You can train your muscles to remember your movements, but you can't train your hand-eye coordination.

The whole stroke of a shot is based off your form and your hand-eye.

He can correct his form, but not the latter.
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>>76987156

You're just repeatedly asserting that hand-eye coordination is somehow untrainable without offering any reason or examples why that would be so.

Just because you say something 3 times doesn't make it true.
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>>76987174
Hand-Eye coordination is not a trainable aspect because it isn't muscle memory, it's the way your brain measures visual input and reacts. This includes spatial sensitivity.

You can train your muscles to behave a certain way (such as with the form of your shot), but you can affect your genetic trait of visual input. You can't "perfect" your vision.
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>>76987205

>only muscle memory is trainable
>hand-eye coordination isn't muscle memory, therefore it isn't trainable.

You are just thinking up new ways of repeating your assertion without changing any of the substance of your point.
Do you happen to be Jewish by any chance?
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>>76984298
all fixed
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>1-11

AHAHAHAHA CERTIFIED MEMECHUCKER

THIS NIGGA A BUST
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Lonzo Ball is Nik Stauskas with elite passing. And yeah, the elite passing is nice, but at the end of the day he's still Nik Stauskas.

People are going to look back in 15 years and wonder why the hell he went 2nd in the draft.
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>>76983707

daily reminder he wasnt even the best player on UCLA last year and 40th in the NCAA in PER
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Daily Reminder:

Lonzo Ball is only 19 and hasn't even played a year in the league.

He is compared to Jason Kidd or Steve Nash

They didn't have a good rookie year either

Oh and Jason Kidd was a round 1 pick 2 just like Lonzo
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>>76987205
are you fuckin dumb man. people get better hand-eye coordination by training all the damn time. why do you think beginners are so awkward on the ball and look natural the more they keep at it
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>>76984086
It's the Kobe mindset, keep shooting till you make it
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>Lonzo "Air" Ball
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>76984086
S M A L L
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>>76987938
Kidd was better in college than Lonzo, though. And draft position doesn't mean much since they shouldn't have taken him at the 2nd spot anyway. And Lonzo is definitely not Steve Nash, I don't even mean that as criticism, they're just very different players.

>>76984086
he is extremely bad at attacking the basket and finishing. it's the #1 reason he's going to be a bust. he can finish in transition, but that's literally it. can't do it the half-court. the reason he had a high 2P% in college is because he almost never took any 2-pointers outside of that.
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Brick Ballers Brand

Brick Ballers Brand

Brick Ballers Brand

Brick Ballers Brand
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Rn he's a more athletic Rubio but I believe that lavar's meme magic will push him over the edge
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>>76986524
You mean future Europe Cup MVP
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>>76988551
can i have a lion and cool bird pls
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>>76987938
Kidd won rookie of the year retard
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At least he has his good looks to fall back on.
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>>76987102
How do you explain players that get better as they go along? You have beasts like Kobe or Lebron that were ballers from birth, but most players have to put in hundreds of hours to get to even a decent level.
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Future Chinese league MVP
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>>76989444
uganda be kidding me
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Watch Kobe's first game you fagS
https://twitter.com/TheFlightMike/status/883579380873576448
Lonzo will be fine
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>>76990647
>S
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>>76986500
There was no summer league retard; although you're right, MJ's first game was actually fairly underwhelming. 16 pts on 5-16 shooting, 6 rebounds 7 assists 2 steals and 4 blocks.
Oh, wait, that's a pretty god damn great statline aside from the shaky shooting.
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>>76986106
someone introduce this alien to Proactive.
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why do light skins love to chuck 3s so much
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>>76991098
If you don't drop 30 pts with 10 assists or rebounds in your first NBA game you're a bust.
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>>76987938
I see the Jason Kidd comparison. Both very fugly and terrible shooters.
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>>76991098
>>76991709
>hand-checking
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>>76987065
>Defense is literally not allowed in the sport.

This a thousand times.

And it's why basket is a garbage sport, you can't do anything to avoid someone scoring.
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>>76987205
Jesus Christ dude, do you ever leave your basement? How can somebody be this retarded?
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>>76988551
RARE, btw can i have a few mudcakes? im deficient in mud
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>>76989367
yea, push him to kill himself
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>>76991696
everyone wants to be stephen curry, not just light skins
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>>76987065
>>76993496
Holy exaggerations, Batman!
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>>76983707
>1-11 3pt

the anti-Curry is here
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>>76986699
>lakers
>smart
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>>76998026
both teams regularly score over 100 pts
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is there a youtube that breaks down his shot mechanics yet? his footwork seems to be what youtube shot coaches preach.
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>>76998264
That has more to do with fastbreaks being more commonplace and not the insistence that breathing on someone is a foul.
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>Shooting 2 for 15 against Summer league trash
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>>76998338
and defense basically being banned from the game
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>>76983707
He's a terrible shot but a good passer, if he tries to be a traditional PG he can be an all-star
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>>76998422
Yea he has good on court vision, can an all star career be built just on that alone though?

Everything else he looked shit desu
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I don't understand how anyone thought Lonzo would be anything BUT a bust. Just look at him. He looks like a fucking child and he's going to be in there against gigantic athletic men. Even the picks around him in the draft, Fultz and Tatum already look like NBA players. Lonzo is going to fall on his face so fucking hard. He can't shoot, he can't physically overpower anyone, he's going to be a worse Rondo.
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Even lonzo fans admitted that he had

>mediocre handle at best
>nonexistent midrange game
>almost never ran pnrs at college or high school
>cant finish at the rim in traffic
>terrible defender
>cant shoot off the dribble
>below average nba athlete
>bad FT shooter

I dont fully understand how people thought "muh passing" would carry him to superstardom

I do think he can become a quality george hill type starter one day if he improves his shot mechanics/athleticism but damn he was a reach at 2
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Lads I'm in decent shape and I think I could manage 5 points in a summer league game

Lonzo is the next Greg Oden
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His shot just looks terrible, he's slow and shit and that's why he always shoots well behind the arc because he's afraid of defense. He's going to be a bust.
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>>76999299
He's a good NBA athlete, much better than D'Angelo. It's his handle and lack of midrange game that needs improvement.

I'm not worried about Lonzo. The guy has the intellect and the vision to get things done. You can't teach that. You can teach handles and a midrange game though.
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>>76987065
BBC vs LWD. Sorry but that's the reality of the situation no matter how far you wanna stick your head in the sand. You can practice in your driveway 12 hours a day you still won't be able to compete with some spearchucking mandingo warrior born with a 9x6 meat hammer
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>>77000505
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>this thread
Its the equivalent of proclaiming he's a future HoFer after his first 20 point game
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>>76985847
He was completely open. If you're passing up open 3s even when you're off. You'll never be a good shooter.
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>nanoballers literally cumming themselves over one bad pre-preseason game
BBB remains on top. Just stay in your lane
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>>77000505
>You can teach handles
no you fucking can't lololol

if you could spudd webb would've been a HoF
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>TRIPLE DOUBLE

APOLOGIZE RIGHT FUCKING NOW!!!!
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YOU
JUST
GOT
BIG BALLED
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>>77008800
Checked.
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>>77008800
>quadruple double
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He still can't shoot for shit. He can rebound and pass great though.
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>statline all 1s
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>>76983707

>Midget baller getting uppity

Back to the doghouse with you.
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He still sucks shit. 5-13 aint good
Fuck LA
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>>76999354
Oden was a bust bc injuries. Lonzo will be a Kwame Brown-style bust.
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>any year
>being a femtoballer
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>>76983707
>The shanty town of OP

When will you ball-lets learn
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>>77008800
Holy fuck that quadruple double
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>muh best point guard of his generation
>up by 13 in the first quarter
>down by 10 in the fourth

BIG BALLS SMALL BRAIN
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>>77013110
>small brain
His BBIQ is on par with LeBron. He has to dumb down his play style for the Laker fans who are used to kobrick and his inefficient chucking
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>>77013182
>His bbiq is on par with LeBron
You mean the dumbdumb that doesn't understand that 3 is always a larger number than 2?
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>gets a triple double in his second ever d-leauge game
>bust

did i miss something here or is this just retard shit posting?
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>>77013827
>triple doubles are an indicator of success
The kid cannot comfortably score at any spot on the floor. He can't pull up, he shies away from finishing in traffic, and his three pointer is looking like crap. Once teams start to plan with that in mind the passing lanes will close up.
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>>77013182
lol so the Laker fans are to blame now?

Just admit this stupid fag and his black entrepreneur dad are not ballers, not even close.

Can't wait for him to ride the bench and get garbage time this season lol.
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>>76983788
>not realizing we were only liking the dad and couldn't care less about his rat sons
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>>76983707
Lol
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>>77014000
Dude, how many players have a clear NBA ready talent already? Not many.

And for Lonzo it's looking like it's elite level aready. Especially as something as important as playmaking and passing for point guards.
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>>77014397
>, how many players have a clear NBA ready talent already? Not many.
True
>And for Lonzo it's looking like it's elite level aready.
Wut? He is strugling against D-leaguers and is shit at everything except passing
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>>77008022
Yes, you can. There are people in my court who can dribble better than some NBA players just after doing drills for a year or 2.

It's one of the easiest parts of your game to improve. If you go multiple seasons without improving it you're simply not working hard enough or efficiently on it.


Steph Curry was a total ass ball handler. He worked on it for a few years and now he's one of the best in the league.

Not that Lonzo's are particularly bad anyways, but if he wanted to improve it he could.
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>>77014440
I'm talking about Lonzo's court vision, passing, and playmaking ability/BB IQ.

If you watched the games and thought anyone of those was bad on any level it's time to leave the game. You're too stupid to understand that.
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>>77008800
>Quadruple double
BBB ALWAYS WIN BAYBEEEEEEEEE
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>>77014440
You do know the PG used to be called the pass guard right.

Fucking newfags with their shitty score-first PGs. Back in the old day this would be as dumb as saying that a shooting guard can only score.
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>>77014000
>this entire euphoria infused comment

well said, fellow gentle sir. what vape pen are you partaking of tonight, m'faggot?
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>11/11/11
is lonzo, dare i say it, the next jason kidd?
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>>76998422
traditional point guard role is dead.
bury it.

you gotta meme threes like curry or explode to the rack like westbrook.
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>>77008800
Holy shit.

Lonzo confirmed at this year goat.
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>>77008800
>averaging 12.5% from the 3 point line in 2 games
>trying to spin this Lonzo is okay meme
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>>77008800

>Them digits

What did he mean by this?
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Not gonna lie, I'm kind of worried, this is why you can't trust the highlights, dude just looks slow as shit and his catapult-shot will generate 20% in NBA. Bust.
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>>77018055
No my dude. If you watch the full game he moves the ball exceptionally well and the makes everyone around him better.
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>>76983707
micro-baller spotted
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>be Boston cuck
>be upset you somehow managed to get cucked out of Fultz, Ball, Jackson
>will eternally be butthurt and try and claim those three are busts while Tatum is the future GOAT
Mark my words: Tatum will not be in the league by the end of his contract, those three will be all-stars by the end of theirs.
It's been weeks and Cuck City is still mad.
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>>77018363
PGs who can't score are dinasours and totally futile in modern NBA.
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>>77021539
Marcus Smart can't score and he's a serviceable backup. Lonzo has some hope, though not a lot, for an NBA career.
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>so many ass annihilated bite-size ballers itt mods won't even let me @ them
Oh well, you all have exposed yourselves.
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>>77021956
>choke

nah, the mavericks were just better. stop trying to rewrite history, budget mexico faggot.
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>>77025541
people were saying the Blazers were going to beat them that year, what are you talking about?
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>>77025636
doesn't mean shit since they didn't, stupid faggot.

instead of letting everybody know that you're a clueless moron, just go to another thread to shit post, poverty spain retard.
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>triple double
>LeBron didnt even put up a double double his first game

Literally next GOAT
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>op
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>>77014619
>mad asshurt lonzo lol fan detected
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>>77008800
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>>77025541
>the mavericks were just better
No they weren't LeBron chocked hard putting worse stats than Chris Bosh of all people
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9 points with 2:57 seconds left in the game
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>>77008800
B
B
B

NIGGA
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>>77026228
>the team that won the NBA finals was not better than the team that lost the NBA finals

budget mexican faggot "education" and "intelligence" on full display everybody. you're embarrassing yourself, kid. stop posting.
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>>77026506
The Heat were better. LeBron just did thr biggest choke job ever
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>>77026528
>too stupid to refute the argument
>repeats the same nonsense over and over

you're not doing yourself ANY favors, juan. you're making it easy for the rest of us to laugh at your stupidity, but that's about it.
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>1 summer league game
>all these mad miniballing manlets
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>>77026560
The Heat won 2 chips in a row while Dallas barely cracked the 5th seed the next seasons.LeBron just choked
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>>77013827
>did i miss something
did you miss the game? he looked like dogshit again
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At least LonZo didn't get injured like that faggot tryhard Fultz

Now that is some bad luck right there. The 76rs can't catch any breaks in summer league lol.
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>>77021956
How embarrassing.

For you, I mean.
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>>77027645
I'm going to have to agree with you here. Eve. A shitty preseason performance is better than getting out there and snapping your ankle. Small/big ballers aside, did anyone really expect the Lakers to do well anyway? They made no real trades or roster moves and just kind of slept in a conference that just got even more stacked. No chance of beating GSW, LAC, HOU, OKC, and maybe a mixed chance at POR still.
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>>77027814

I don't think that summer league is anything to take seriously. It's just a showcase. The high amount of shots taken and the poor percentage is not something that we will be seeing nightly. No coach would allow this type of shit in a real game. I think it's a way to ease players into the fast pace of the NBA vs college hoops which is a lower level.

But yeah I rather see my team be healthy than go full tryhard and get injured over some shitty exhibition game. It's not worth it
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>>76987269
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>Lonzo busts
>Lamelo and Liangelo get exposed as cherrypicking statpadders with no defense
>Shoe brand falls apart
>Ball family goes bankrupt and becomes homeless
It's just like pottery
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>>76999213

Rondo was ELITE for a few years wtf are you talking about?
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>>77028602
Worse Rondo, not more worse/worser Rondo.
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>>76984242
like wtf.
Most dentist nowadays have specials for free whitenings
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>>76983707
>>77008800
>THE STATE OF THIS THREAD
AHAHAHAHAHA
OP SHOULD HAVE STAYED IN HIS LANE
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>>76987205

You're so full of shit
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>>77008800
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>>77018363
>makes everyone around him better
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>>77030007
That is Laker gold on his grill.
He's just representing the way Big Ballers do!
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bump for op getting btfo
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