Is the homegrown player rule actually beneficial for English

>>76866899
You should get a limit of 5 non British players, than that problem would be solved and you wouldn't have to cheer for Babu Dupapa

>>76866944
hey brits could actually do that once they're out of the EU

>>76866989
HMRC love arabs paying the Babu Dupapas of the world 8 figure salaries though

At the very least it forces teams to keep British players on the squad, and there's always a chance that one of them will break through. Look at Kane with Tottenham. Absolute trash as a youth player, but he managed to improve dramatically when Pochettino arrived. I doubt that would have happened if he had been sold off to some championship team.

>>76866944
The quality of the league would drop dramatically if that rule was implemented though.

>>76867449
Accurate.

The quality of foreign players is why the PL is the most watched in the world, if it was a domestic affair no one would care.

Shouldn't 'homegrown players' be players developed by the club itself?
Why does Sterling (from Liverpool youth) count as City homegrown when he clearly isn't?

>>76866899
Leicester won the League

>>76867490
It's homegrown in Britain. Ironically, this means that an English player trained by a foreign club doesn't count as homegrown, while a foreign player trained by a British club does.

>>76867426
It's not just British players though, someone of any nationality in an academy from the age of 16 or whatever qualifies as homegrown.

The more clubs start filling their youth teams with foreigners the more useless this rule becomes.

>>76866899
Wait, this can't be right. Spurs have 5 homegrown players in their starting eleven alone.

>>76867516
>>76867516
>an English player trained by a foreign club doesn't count as homegrown, while a foreign player trained by a British club does.
Well that's only fair, being homegrown has nothing to do with nationality
The dumb thing is that any player trained in England counts as homegrown for english teams that didn't train him

>>76867576
Well it incentivises top clubs to buy the best homegrown players and get them playing top level football.

>>76867622
But it doesn't incentivise top clubs to develop their own talents, in fact it has the opposite effect

>>76867694
Doesn't really matter. Big clubs are more likely to scout globally anyway, lower league clubs can make the most of grassroots talent. For a lot of them it's their livelihood too.

>>76867576
It's supposed to encourage players to buy highly-rated English players rather than buying a foreign player instead. Although all it ends up doing is making "homegrown" players like Lukaku ridiculously overpriced. At one point they were considering changing the rules so that a club would require at least two of their players to be products of the youth academy as well as increasing the number of homegrown players to 8 and changing the definition to "a player that has played in an English club for 3 years before the age of 18" (currently it's 3 years before the age of 21).

>>76867525
I believe that's the graph for 2015. Also Eric Dier isn't a homegrown player.

>>76867723
But no one forbids lower clubs from growing their own talents
If both top and lower clubs focus on developing players the whole country would rejoice, just look at Germany

>>76867752
>increasing the number of homegrown players to 8
*12

Even teams like Watford now field nearly all foreign starting teams, I'm a Chelsea fan and I'm in favour of stricter homegrown quotas, however as it stands I really don't blame clubs for buying foreign talent, the amount of money involved by doing well in the premier league outweighs giving local talent a chance and the FA is fine with it.

There should be an English Club that only has English players, their gimmick would be trying to only recruit the best English players

>>76867824
Their gimmick would be getting relegated while going bankrupt.

>>76867824
I think all the top PL clubs want the best English players, it's just that the best English players right now aren't good enough to compete with the elite teams of Europe. Back in the days when England actually had good players, Liverpool, Arsenal, Chelsea, and United all dominated in the CL while having multiple English players in their starting lineups.

England used to have Lampard, Gerrard, Rooney, Ferdinand....now they've got Alli, Wilshere, Kane, and Stones.

>>76867953
Alli and Kane are very good though. Wilshere would be too if he wasn't made of glass.

Defenders are the problem, none of them are the same level as Terry, Campbell, Rio, Cole, Neville etc. were.

>>76867449
>>76867483
The league was at it's best when it was mostly English while Continental teams always had foreigners.

>>76868736

english football was pretty dire before premier league globalisation. players were all alcoholic heavy smokers who spent more time kicking each other than the ball

>>76868061
>Alli and Kane are very good
Yeah, that's why they're carrying their team to local and international titles.

>>76869233
By that logic Messi must be shite too since he can't win a WC. 47 league goals between them, what more do you want?

>>76866899
The same fucking mongs who campaigned for homegrown are the ones who go "why don't english players play abroad???"

Because clubs need homegrowns so they overpay you mongs

>Britain FIRST
>muh homegrown
>jonny foreigner
>SEND EM BACK
>brecksit

The homegrown player rule just feeds into this anti-foreigner, british exceptional discourse that has characterised the UK in recent year. The reason everyone watches the premier league is because British teams are able to afford the best, most talented players in the world - people tune in to watch premier league games to watch Hazard, Sanchez and Aguero tier players (for example) because they're so talented, its good viewing.

No one wants to see John Milton from Twickenham, who averages 0.2 assists per game and has yet to score in 135 games, fielded in a first team squad alongside global superstars because of a discriminatory rule based on 'muh britain furst'.

If British players were good enough, they'd flourish in Britain and in other leagues too - but they dont because they're not technically skilled and generally lazy. Brits being brits, they somehow surmise that this is the fault of the foreigners.

Literally just another
>muh foreigners stealing muh opportunities
argument

>>76869187
You dominated Europe with Forest and Aston Villa