2011 Barca vs 2017 Real Madrid. who wins?

>>76825425
08-09 Barca squad was better

2011 Barca. Xaviniesta were unstoppable and Abidal and Alves are far better fullbacks than Jordi alba and whatever meme RB they have right now.

>>76825425
>who wins?
Real Madrid beat this exact team (besides Abidal) in the 2011 copa del rey final, with Khedira and Arbeloa &co. so I really doubt they would "destroy" 2017 Real.
probably a cheeky 2-2.

>>76825465
go to bed underage chicano

halal with refball

>>76825611
And Barcelona defeated them in the CL. You think one game is enough judge a team?

Real Madrid would win 3-1

>>76825611
They also destroyed that RM team 5-0 in the same season
2011 barca are easily the greatest club team of all time, only the Milan of the late 80s and early 90s comes close

>>76825666
Did you even watch the CL matches? It was absolute refball

>>76825708

2017 halal also lost to Barcelona without neymar, and Halal did get pretty far with the help of some offsides as well.

>>76825611
You're a sad pathetic little gypsy. Just take a break from shitposting m8. The entire board is laughing at you.

>>76825679
Yeah this

>>76825778
*10men Real

>>76825778
>Halal did get pretty far with the help of some offsides as well.
not really. Bayern's offside and benulties were way more disgraceful.

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>>76825708
Yeah look at this horrible refball. I mean how can the amazing defence of Madrid masterminded by Mourinho hope to stand up to this horrible interference, right?

>>76825897

This is the shit Ronaldo lacks

people always try to make a comparison between him and Messi but there simply isn't one, Messi has plenty of scoring highlights where he makes the play on his own, dribbling around at pace and finishing with a great shot

Ronaldo just has headers, tap ins, and the occasional decent shot, but hardly any combination to make the play himself

>>76825824
Zidane's dumbass was making mistakes and Ramos legitimately fucked up. quit with that 10 man excuses bullshit, ramos had no impact that game anyways.

>>76825425
>Pique | Macherano CB pair

I actually think that pair will soon look like a joke compared to Umiti | Pique...
>in a few years


Rest of the side is solid ig, but dare I say Suarez and Neymar are >way better than Pedro and Villa?

Also never rated Valdes, ter Stegen will be better than him too.

Moral, sides get better with time. Most nostalgia fags are just that, fags.

>>76825699
>They also destroyed that RM team 5-0 in the same season

k but you can't really compare an actual final when both teams had time to prepare their shit, with a laliga game between 2 CL tuesdays.

>>76825897
>look at this one goal, no refball, see?

>>76825986
R A R E
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>>76825968
>quit with that 10 man excuses bullshit
kek

>>76826004
>every fucking time

my flag doesn't matter

>>76825986
Pedro and Villa are inferior to Nerman and Rat King but in 2011 Iniesta, Xavi and especially Messi were at their absolute prime. Messi was on a level of his own, nearly unplayable. There's no way the current Barcelona or season 14/15 Barcelona would beat that team.

>>76826149
>Villa
>inferior to Nerman and Rat King
lol no

>>76826149

The truth is 3 premier forwards and a weak midfield doesn't make for a very balanced team overall

>>76826149
2015 treble winning Barca would have demolished this 2017 Madrid. MSN were unplayable and everyone was solid in performance

>>76826149
>Iniesta, Xavi and especially Messi were at their absolute prime

Nobody sane itt would dare refute.

But >Pedro and >>Villa couldn't touch Ratking and Nerman.

Nerman may dribble to much, dive and just be subpare for a few games, but when he's not he's really good.

Ratking is fucking clinical when he gets chances and a bit of pace.

I rate Villa tho, and especially Pedro (whom I think is a bit underrated in his time at Barca) but Nerman and Suarez was better.

Mainly because they came from better pools of talent.

>>76826213
and 2017 Madrid would have demolished 2012 2013 2014 Barca

like the santa lucia fag said, teams get better.

>>76826280
>demolished Pep-less Barcelona pre-MSN
No shit. They literally went through 3 managers in 3 seasons before they settled on Enrique and assembled MSN.

>>76825824
>10 men
And it should've been 9 or 8. Not like it mattered, at the end of the league.

>>76826300
>assembled MSN.

>Gareth Bale: won 3 champions leagues
>MSN: won 1 treble
wew

>>76825897
Honestly m8 the current RM side will never let this shit happen.

Messi can barely do that shit to mid to lower table La Liga sides anymore. People have been watching him for longer and he doesn't have that "youthful exuberance"/lack of discipline to try that right now.

>>76825425
2011-2012 was wayy better team

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>>76827516
>no league, cucked by Ronaldo
>no CL, cucked by TORRES
>no remarkable moments whatsoever besides them losing important matches

nigga what are you on about lmao, the only thing better that season was their away black kit, that shit was dope

>>76827606
kek. 10\10 pic

fuck, 2015 Barca would wreck this Real. That team wrecked defending champions of the other leagues.

Well considering 2017 Madrid couldn't beat 2017 Barca..

>>76825897
This happened after Pepe's made up red card kiwi

>>76826213
Lol

>>76828312
quizás no en títulos pero sí en un partido directo. al farca generalmente le sienta bien el bernabeu independientemente de su rendimiento en la temporada.

>>76828115
You are fucking deluded. 2015 Barça could barely beat Carletto's Madrid that played with fucking JAJAJAmemes and no rotations. This Madrid would demolish 2015 Barça as it is better in every fucking way

>>76828325
>quizás no en títulos pero sí en un partido directo.
En un partido directo el Celta puede destrozar al Barça como hacen cada temporada. Este Madrid es mucho mejor equipo y en una eliminatoria de Champions contra ese Barça la ganarían casi siempre.

Friendly reminder Barca won and drew the classicos this season

>>76825425
real all the time

>>76825897
EPIC goal!

>>76826396
>Honestly m8 the current RM side will never let this shit happen.

Yeah, not like Messi literally raped current Real Madrid side few months ago.

>>76828892
well it was about time, he went like 8 games in a row going invisible (as in being useless in general, not only failing to score) against Halal. We probably won't see another good game from him against them for the next 2 years.

>>76828892
>not like Messi literally raped current Real Madrid side few months ago.

do I really have to reply to this post?

show when Casemiro, Modric, Varane and Ramos let Messi run RM's defence, from half line, by Busquets-higher up field than he almost ever is-casually standing while rolling a ball to Messi-who proceeds to rape RM anally with a spear, before scoring against >Casillas.

>inb4 Casillas was actually based then

Seriously, there are times when I tell my self: Navas is actually better. Anyway GKing actually evolved too, Pep and other Spanish and Dutch managers made technical keepers a meme for the better.

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>>76829676
>"w-why didn't he pull the same indentical situation as then"

Come on, m9. The fact that he didn't solo through the entire team to score a goal doesn't mean he didn't thoroughly dominate the match.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-XLlcuP-GAE

>the current RM side will never let this shit happen

Yeah, they were oh so great in containing him.

>>76830881
Wtf was Carvajal doing

>>76830881
You're still missing my point.

But whatever. One thing we can agree on is that RM is especially shitty against Barca.

>>76825425
2017 madrid can't even beat 2017 barcelona lmao

>>76825425
Barcelona current squad won in the bernabeu and almost wins in camp nou. Rm may be better overall but head to head barceloma still cucks them

>>76832026
Rare proxy

>peak messi, xavi and iniesta
GOATest GOAT team ever

they manage to carry shit players like villa, pedro, mascherano, pique and valdes

>>76832058
Rm is better overall because barca lacks depth so miserably

Navas > Valdes
Carvajal < Alves
Ramos > Mascherano
Varane = Pique
Marcelo > Abidal
Casemiro < Busquetes
Modric = Iniesta
Kroos < Xavi
Ronaldo > Pedro
Benzema < Messi
Isco/Bale > Villa

Real Madrid wins

>>76832290
>2017 Modric = 2011 Iniesta
KEK

>>76832276
villa and mascherano were not shit you clown

>>76832312
yeah you thought villa, pedro and mascherano were shit in 2011, its safe to say you weren't watching football back then.

pipe down champ

>>76832329
mate, pedro and villa never did something marvellous besides scoring a tap in from an iniesta/xavi/messi assist

mascherano was new to that position, he played in the midfield his whole life

>>76832290
>Carvajal < Alves
>Modric = Iniesta
t.clueless

>>76832290
doesnt work like that you retard. but halal prolly does win

>modric=iniesta
uhhh

>>76832338
>villa
Villa was amazing.

faggot.

>>76826019
>I'll say "kek" instead of responding to him with an actual argument! That'll show him!

>>76832708
that's why he spent half of his career in the "major" league "soccer" right?

>>76832031
/thread

>>76832290
>modric=iniesta
Now, MAYBE. But prime Iniesta was GOAT

>>76825897
GOAT assist right there

>>76825425
Hopefully ISIS

>>76828303
>Any red card against Madrid is made up
kys madrista

>>76832742
since when 10vs11 is not a legitimate excuse you retard?

>>76833031
it's not a legitimate excuse when Real deserved to have way more players sent off

>>76833280
>deserved
we're not talking about your sexual fantasies here, in real life any 10vs11 obviously matters, it's not a per game basis. go back to your MLB shit.

>>76829676
>>76832026
damn nigga did you took a boat from one island to another?