/cfb/ general - EARLY DEATH edition

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FIRST for G5

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Could a G5 team make the Playoff this season?

>Boise State
An undefeated MW schedule with wins over ranked Wazzu and SDSU could put them in the conversation

>Troy
Decent OOC (LSU, Boise) but the Sun Belt schedule puts them at a disadvantage over MW and AAC schools

>WKU
OOC too weak, CUSA too weak to make up for it

>Memphis
Weak OOC

>Houston
Weak OOC (Arizona + Texas Tech)

>Colorado State
By far the strongest OOC of the bunch: Alabama, Colorado, and Oregon State. An undefeated season would put them squarely in the playoff.

>App State
App's strength of schedule hangs on how good Georgia and Wake Forest actually are in 2017. Both were bowl winners in 2016, but unless they return to form, an undefeated Sun Belt slate might not be enough to put the Mountaineers in the playoff conversation.

>USF
With only one P5 matchup in 2017, against Illinois, USF cannot expect much of a boost in the rankings. Even with an undefeated season, they'd need to win every AAC game convincingly to be a playoff team.

>Tulsa
A week-1 win against Oklahoma State could put Tulsa at the top of the Week 1 G5 rankings and boost them into the top 25 for the rest of the season. If an undefeated Tulsa meets an undefeated USF in November, the playoffs could be on the line.

>Toledo
Putting together a playoff resume in the MAC is hard. While Toledo might be the MAC's best hope in 2017, they have only one opportunity to impress against a P5, when they play the Miami Hurricanes.

>San Diego State
Week 2 (Arizona State) and Week 3 (Stanford) will be make or break for SDSU's playoff hopes. If they can win those, they have to handle Boise State to prove they're playoff worthy

>>76821548
It's entirely possible, but you haven't done your research.

1) WKU just replaced their coach and got a new QB. They're great overall, but will be rebuilding in 2017.
2) Boise ran neck-and-neck with Wyoming last year, and Wyoming is still getting better.
3) Troy was ranked for a week last year anyway, before losing to another SBC team. They won't make that mistake again.
4) Houston, if ranked preseason, can still get in with a 12-0 record.
5) Tulsa is not beating Oklahoma State.

Other than that, have at it.

>>76821719
>you haven't done you research

I wasn't looking at whether these teams WOULD win all their games.

I was looking at whether or not, if they somehow did manage to go undefeated, whether their SOS would be strong enough to get into the playoff. WMU, for example, had too weak of a SOS to get in.

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Who will be the best team in Texas this season?

Who will be the worst?

Who has the most potential in the future?

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You now remember that Sparty beat the only "unanimous preseason #1" team in their own house

>>76822762
UT will retake it's rightful throne

>>76821749
stay tuned for my post on what would happen if UMass goes undefeated.

oh wait, nevermind, nobody gives a fuck.

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>>76822762
>A&M
>UTEP
>North Texas/UTSA

Nice graphic, still messy, but a mite better than this one.

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PRESEASON RAGS OUT NOW, LADS

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Threadly reminder that Florida will beat Florida State in the college football playoffs

>>76821548

It COULD happen, but I think it would be much more important for the upper echelons of the P5 to be in total disarray, with no undefeated or even one-loss teams.

Combine that with a G5 team that is not only undefeated, but could RESOUNDINGLY defeat every opponent it faced, alongside a competitive OOC schedule, and a stout conference slate. THEN you could have an argument.

Unfortunately, WMU and the MAC gave a pretty poor showing in the NY6 bowl last year; that's going to color the perception of G5 strength in the committee, fair or not.

>>76821548

Also, since we're just jotting hypothetical down on paper here...

>ECU
With the hardest OOC schedule in all of college football, the pirates play reigning FCS national champions JMU to open the season, followed by VA Tech, WVU, and BYU. All of that on top of a pretty stout conference draw from the AAC with USF, UH, UCF, Memphis, Temple, and Cincinnati in the mix.

IF, by some miracle, the Pirates found a way to go undefeated (which the chances are almost nil) that schedule would be enough to argue for a berth into the CFP.

What I'm trying to say is that there ARE schedules in the G5 that could provide a convincing argument--UH's 2016 schedule certainly had all the cards. But it would be an incredible feat to go undefeated with that kind of schedule, and G5 talent/depth.

>>76821548
>>76824223
>>76824356

To sum up, yes, I think it's possible. But the bar is probably too high in the Coach's poll this year.

There aren't any G5 teams this year that could go undefeated AND have the strength of schedule to back it up.

Your post was good, I can't really argue with anything in it, I just don't think any of those teams has what it takes in 2017. I'd be happy to be proven wrong though--I'd love to see a G5 team upset EVERYONE and win the playoff.

If I had to put my money on one of them doing it, I'd probably say USF. They've got a great returning team, and exciting new coach in the driver's seat. That momentum could be enough in the first year for a season of halcyon days, and a program historic high.

Unfortunately, even if they do go undefeated, I think it's more likely that the poll will place them in the NY6 berth instead of the CFP, and we'll all look back on it for years to come as a tragedy when they booty blast whoever they're put against.

>>76824201
Start beating us in the regular season then :^)


Anyway, hello everyone! We are nearing the end of this offseason. Let's get some drunk predictions! I'll start: this year there will be a school that becomes pedo state 2.0

>>76825213

>Let's get some drunk predictions! I'll start: this year there will be a school that becomes pedo state 2.0

Hasn't Baylor already done this, more or less? I mean, there wasn't any "rhythmic moving" but they got there in spirit.

>>76825491
>rhythmic moving
Ain't no rhythm in Baylor, just a bunch of white boys

>>76825491
Baylor was Pedo State 2.0, so I suppose the question now is who's going to be Pedo State 3.0.

>>76825840

>he doesn't know

http://deadspin.com/5868802/penn-state-witness-mike-mcquearys-testimony-some-kind-of-intercourse-was-going-on

"he heard a "rhythmic slapping sound" and saw in a mirror Jerry Sandusky in the shower with a boy who appeared to be 10 or 12 years old."

>>76825866

>who's going to be Pedo State 3.0.

Michigan State?

http://www.clickondetroit.com/news/3-suspended-michigan-state-football-players-charged-with-sexual-assault

I think we might be up to 4.0 now.

>>76823778
I'd have preferred that post to this one, tbqh

is the Big XII officially done for

>>76826429
It will be once the SEC decides to become a Superconference. They'll scoop up Oklahoma and Okie State.

Then it'll be over.

>>76826429
>>76826464

The expiration of the Big XII's current TV deal is that conference's doomsday clock.

It's the elephant in the room, and the Oklahoma schools are going to be gone the day it happens.

>>76825910
To carry on the Pedo State tradition, there can't just be a crime, there also has to be an official coverup.

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Good article on Liberty University: the new FBS spending Juggernaut.

This is a christian university that sponsors a Nascar. They have more money than God, himself. They're about to throw a SHIT TON of money at their football program.

https://pilotonline.com/sports/columnist/harry-minium/liberty-university-already-spends-more-on-athletics-than-odu-and/article_ce714ec9-31db-5420-8e4b-ce63bc2e2474.html

>>76826719

That's fair. Baylor definitely achieved that goal though.

>>76826730

Cool article.

It's a damned shame how much UVA spends on football to be an ACC doormat team.

Money doesn't necessarily equal success in college football, but it certainly helps.

In one of the last few threads, there was talk about how LU probably can't wait for an excuse to drop their current coach and hire Art Briles. They have literally zero shame when it comes to athletic hires. They've already got high ranking hires from THOSE YEARS at Baylor working at Liberty.

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>>76826719
A coverup, you say?

>a UNC athlete turned this final term paper in for an A-

my favorite anecdote from the UNC fake classes saga

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>>76826816

>>76826812
When does Sandusky get out? Art Briles will need a good assistant to help the Flamers win the College Football Playoff for Jesus.

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>>76826816
>>76826840

>tfw UNC is a P5 team that cheated to get its athletic talent, and little ol' mid-major ECU still holds the record for most points allowed by a UNC football team in their program history.

I love knocking those smug assholes down a peg on the grid iron.

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>>76826884

I was at that game.

The sky literally turned purple and gold. I was there.

https://blog.ecu.edu/sites/dailyclips/blog/2014/09/22/summers-purple-skies-over-new-era-the-daily-reflector/

>>76826852

He'd be 98 years old if he gets out on his earliest release.

Maybe Bill Snyder will give him some of his immortality serum so Sandusky can get a few seasons in.

>>76826884
I can't think of a flagship school I dislike more than North Carolina. There are so many reasons not to like them:

>Ultra militant liberal students and faculty
>Commit academic fraud to help athletics
>Shit the bed in football anyway
>But still act like they are a powerhouse
>Actively suppress other UNC schools programs
>Wine and Cheese crowd alumni
>White trash Wal-Mart fans who never had a shot at getting into UNC shill the Tar Heels nonstop

Sickening.

>>76826989
Alabama is bad too, with the way they did UAB.

In the same situation, I have little doubt that UNC would make the same decisions Bama did.

I guess LSU is bad too, considering the Louisiana legislature regularly pampers them at the expense of Lafayette, Tech and Monroe.

>>76821548
If this was any other playoff, I might be able to agree with you. But, this is the college football playoff, where everything is voted by big fat cats from p5 schools,

>>76826989

This.

They also think their education is Ivy-league tier due to their association with Duke. It's not bad in the scope of public schools, but they have nothing on the true blue bloods of higher education.

UNC pissed and moaned when ECU wanted its own medical school in the late 80s / early 90s too. ECU had to win the Peach Bowl in 91 over NCSU to prove that they deserved a spot at the table.

I know nobody cares but I'm posting the article anyway.
http://wishtv.com/2017/06/28/iupui-to-join-horizon-league/amp/

>>76827048

I won't lie, I had to look up wtf IUPUI even was.

>>76827070
they went to the hoops tourney back in 2002-03 is the only reason i know them. their coach was Ron Hunter (currently at Georgia State).

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>>76825213
Florida will lose to FSU in the regular season but beat them in the CFP semifinals. Fifth Quarter at the French Quarter 2: Electric Boogaloo

>>76827070
they are no IPFW mastodons

>>76827329
if Florida loses to FSU, they won't be making the playoff.

Chomp on that.

>>76827363
also vice versa

>>76827363
We will when we otherwise go undefeated and win the SEC

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is this /ouryear/?

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>be 23-yo camp counselor
>15-yo camper from my hometown falls in love with me

Someone find a flaw in my plan because I'm pretty sure I'm brilliant

>she reaches Alabama age of consent
>begin courtship
>graduate, get engineering job in birmingham
>marry when she's 18
>get well established at engineering job
>have five kids during her peak reproductive years (19-26)
>move to white utopia aka Shelby County for Oak Mountain school system, cheap land, and few negroes
>???
>save white race
>she doesn't lose peak beauty until I'm 38 and will be attractive until I'm 60

>>76821548
dude i hope so, the sec is lame i like san diego state if it does

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>>76827811

>23
>15

Goddammit Alabama, it's time to stop.

>>76827811
What the fuck is wrong with you?

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>>76827409
I want Mizzou to win the SEC, just for the memes

>>76827879
Luckily what ypu want has no bearing on reality

>>76827825
>>76827843
not an argument

>>76827879
You now remember they were relatively close to this in 2013

>>76827879
>>76827913
Also Jesus the east hasn't won the SEC since the Bush administration

>>76826989
>>76827015
Really? I thought Texas was the most hated flagship.

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>>76826989
the weird thing about this post is the first line complains about liberals, and every single thing after it describes characteristics of conservatives.

Really nudges those neurons.

>>76828589
Check the counties of the teams that played in the playoffs nu-male

>>76826464
The B1G homers believe they'll be getting Kansas and Oklahoma as new members. I've never doubted Kansas, but I think Oklahoma fits in culturally with the SEC much better. Okie State at the very least. If the SEC were to add two western teams you could move Auburn and Alabama to the East, move Missouri to the West, and everyone would be happy. Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, LSU, and Texas A&M get to dominate the West (Ole Miss/Mississippi State are good every once in a while) while Alabama, Tennessee, Georgia, Florida, and Auburn battle it out for the East (South Carolina is goof every now and then, Kentucky occasionally). Realistically Alabama is still the center of the conference, but Oklahoma gets a lot of power and influence, as well as a likely permanent crossover with Tennessee, Georgia, Alabama, or Auburn. If I had to imagine how the crossover pairings would work, it'd probably be Tennessee-Mizzou, Georgia-Arkansas, Alabama-Oklahoma, and Auburn-Oklahoma State.

If the SEC doesn't snag those teams and goes for small private schools instead, I'm rooting for Tulane and maybe Rice or TCU. TCU adds the Dallas-Fort Worth market so they make more sense than Rice (their program is much better too) and Tulane is a historical SEC team that would make trips to New Orleans really fun. The SEC basically has to expand westward as the ACC teams are in too solid of a position and the other schools on the eastern seaboard (Central Florida, South Florida, Florida Atlantic, Florida International, Georgia Southern, Georgia State, Coastal Carolina, UNC-Charlotte, Appalachian State, East Carolina, Old Dominion, possibly James Madison) aren't big/important enough to warrant an invite, except for maybe UCF if they are capable of developing a successful program (but that's a stretch). Ideally they would add UNC and UVA but there's no chance in hell that happens.

>>76827892
Yeah but it wouldn't it just butt hurt the entire cancer cell of a conference?

>>76830807
I would much rather have Tulane than OU or any other Big 12 school.
Part of what makes cfb great is the historical nature of the rivalries and the cultural bond between the conferences. I would hate to see the Big 12 go, because we'd be losing a lot of cfb history in the process, but also because those Big12 schools that would join my conference have frankly no business being there.

>>76831188
If the SEC had to take 2 schools that aren't in the Big 12 or ACC who would they take? The only schools that could possibly make sense (either private with history or a big enough school/program) are Tulane, Rice, Houston, SMU, Memphis, UCF, USF, and ECU. Of those only Tulane is really attractive for history but LSU would almost definitely block it, Rice and Houston take up too much of A&M's Houston market and LSU recruiting grounds so that won't happen, SMU is bad, doesnt have a large fanbase and would be a pain to deal with, Memphis is a shit school that will probably become bad again soon, UCF/USF are both too second-fiddle programs that would oversaturate the Florida recruiting grounds in the P5, and ECU is a reject party school in the middle of nowhere North Carolina that doesn't even provide a TV market.

The SEC will probably want to expand to 16 teams but they have no totally good options without an ACC implosion that opens up UNC/NC State and UVA/VaTech for expansion.

>>76831448
I'd be fine with taking any southern ACC schools. The culture of those programs intersect a lot with the SEC. but at the same time I wouldn't want to do it if it meant the collapse of the conference. The current P5 setup is perfectly balanced for succinct regional conferences that reach most if not all regions of college football and I want all modern P5 conferences to succeed

>>76829918
>changes the subject
We were discussing UNC. A liberal student body, yes, but the administration is clearly conservative, and most of your complaints were about them.

Makes one pause to ponder.

>>76830807
>>76831448
>16+ team conference

This has failed multiple times, it's too many.

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This is /ouryear/ lads.

Prepare thine anuses.

>>76831503
Yep, that's the problem if you try to take UNC or Duke. The ACC would probably eventually collapse without the Tarheels and/or Blue Devils. They know they have all the power so they aren't likely to leave.

So of the ACC schools that you want you really only have NC State, Virginia Tech, and Virginia, and ideally they'd take one from each state. Wake Forest is obviously a non-issue. I excluded Clemson, Georgia Tech, Miami and Florida State, as the SEC does not want to expand to states they already have a team in. That would seriously dilute the recruiting pool for the other SEC teams. Additionally a school like Clemson offers nothing but decent academics and a football team, as SCAR dominates the South Carolina media markets.

But back to those other schools I mentioned, you have 3 major hurdles there:
1.) NC State/UNC and VaTech/UVA are tied to the hip with each other. You can't separate those schools anymore unless the alumni get really, really upset with each other. State legislatures would force them together if they aren't already.
2.) The ACC GoR is giant, so ACC teams are locked in for a very long time and the SEC would have to pay big money to poach someone. This also underscores the fact that ACC teams should be relatively lucrative over the next few decades with their new network. Is the money going to be big enough from the SEC?
3.) The Virginia ACC schools are very good academically and NC State has an impressive engineering school. The administrations at these schools want to preserve that, and moving from a conference with UNC, Duke, Notre Dame, Georgia Tech, Wake Forest and Boston College as the leaders to a conference with Vanderbilt, Florida, Georgia, and Texas A&M at the top may not look so enticing. The SEC is trying to increase its academic profile, and it's not last (looking at you, Big 12), but it certainly isn't close to competing for 1st and 2nd. Adding UVA and Rice or Tulane would make the SEC comparable to the Pac 12.

Just wanting to interject that I'm not reading any of these.

>>76832494
I'm only writing a lot because I'm bored at work.

>Holidays in 2 weeks
>Will return to work when CFB starts
Feels good man.

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ITS COMING BACK!!!!!

>>76827811
Kill yourself

>>76828257
I'm based on the east coast, so Bama/UNC are more noticeable for me.

I'd probably say Texas if I lived in the Midwest.

>>76828589
That's why UNC is so terrible.

It is literally the worst aspects of both the extreme right and the extreme left.

>>76832346
The SEC adding another private school with elite academics would be interesting.

They have all the football powerhouses they could ever want.

But if they take Tulane, they screw over LSU

If they take SMU/Rice, they screw over A&M.

Tulsa, maybe?

>>76835846
I think SMU would be the best private school add.

Them making it to the SEC would be righting the wrong that was done when the NCAA gave them the death penalty

>>76835846
Problem with Tulsa is that it would be solely for the academics. It is the smallest school in FBS (though they'd probably increase by a few thousand with SEC money for a few years) and that probably translates to an incredibly small fanbase. Wake Forest is in almost the exact same position as Tulsa but has more prestige and at least a degree of athletic success.

I really wish Tulane, Rice, BAKA, or TCU would work in this scenario, but I guess there's just no way in hell any of them work. Tulsa and Wake are the only other private schools in the SEC footprint that would work (Miami definitely wouldnt) aside from the FCS schools in North Carolina/Virginia

>>76838279
That was supposed to be SMU

>>76830807

it not just the B1G homers saying it, but the Oklahoma students and faculty

Post Schedules bros
>U$C
WMU: W
Stanford: W
Texas: W
@Cal: W
@WSU: L
OSU: W
Utah: W
@ND: W
@ASU: W
Arizona: W
@Colorado: W
UCLA: W
Pac-12 champions over UW
Natty over Alabama

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http://ninertimes.com/2017/06/how-the-n-c-budget-could-impact-unc-charlotte/

The growth keeps on coming. But Dubois still needs to get his medical school plan approved. Which could be easier to do with the new school board.

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>>76838569
Posted a few threads ago, but w/e. Nothing I've seen or heard has done anything to change my thoughts either way. Fwiw, the win against Arizona might be a win against Oregon State, but I doubt we'll win both.

>>76838820
Charlotte is going to be a successful school. Wish Greensboro would get off its ass and do the same thing.

>>76832346

The NC state Congress introduced legislation requiring both NC State and UNC to leave the ACC if they conference every attempted to meddle in NC politics again. They're VERY salty about the ACC pulling games out of NC due to the transgender bathroom bill.

The culture of the ACC has changed with the addition of so many yankee teams. If the issues comes to a head again, the SEC could be poised to jump on that fumble, and capitalize on an unforced error from the ACC

>>76827782

Nevada and Boise State would really connect that puzzle, geographically.

>>76821238
Why is the ACC so shit?

>>76840224

It's a basketball conference, primarily, with a small number of heavy weight football teams--many of which were grave robbed from the Big East.

>>76839829
I doubt the NC Congress will give the NCAA/ACC a reason to do that again. I hated the boycott because a few years ago nothing would have happened, but I understand that its totally legal. The whole thing was stupid anyway.

>>76838569
>Lose to WSU
>Beat UW
Explain this

>>76841249
Mike Leach?

>>76839315

Greensboro did try to add a pharmaceutical school at one point. But I was told chapel hill meddled in the plans and got the idea shut down.

>>76842111
I mean when the #1 pharmaceutical school in the nation already exists in the state I can sort of understand it.

I mean more like Greensboro needs a football team. There's nothing to do in Greensboro, people would go to the games and it would help tourism.

>>76841985
Wouldn't that be an advantage?

>>76842218

If the greensboro students and alumni want it they can try raising the issue with the school. Thats what the charlotte students did. If they didn't do that the chancellor would have never bothered to add the sport. They even built a football goal post, marched it across campus, and left it on the chancellors doorstep so he would get the message.

>>76838569
;p
UTEP: W
tOSU: W
Tulane: W
Baylor: W
ISU: W
Texas: L
KSU: W
TTU: L
Ok Lite: W
TCU: W
KU: W
WVU: W

>>76842111
>pharmaceuticalget

>>76842525
for WSU, yes.

>>76840784
>NC won't give the NCAA a reason to do that again

Probably correct, because their voting districts were ruled racist by the Supreme Court, so all those dumb motherfuckers are out in November.

Alternatively, none of those current motherfuckers even realized they did anything wrong until the entire rest of the country told them so, and even then pretended like THEY were the wronged ones. Silly hillbillies.

>>76845531

>NC
>Hillbillies

Except for the small portion of the state in the mountains, the VAST majority of NC's population are rednecks, not hillbillies.
Rednecks are overweight, have drinking problems, and go to NASCAR races. Hillbillies wear overalls, don't have teeth, and smoke meth.

They're both white trash, but it's an important distinction

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rate

>>76845903
It's a fact of life that at some point the Cougs are going to lay an egg and lose a game they have no business losing. I'm thinking 4 or 5 losses is more likely.

>>76845914
Maybe also Oregon and Colorado? Those are actually good teams.

>>76845559
>NASCAR
Get the hell off my board.

But yes, at least they have their teeth, so they've got that going for them.

>You know remember the AIRBHG

how many years before the big 12 ends?

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>yfw Florida goes 12-2 and wins the Sugarb owl

>>76848129
Using the U in articles makes it easier to tell it is the university and not a region

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Come save us Big 12
Save us from ACC mediocrity

>>76821238
Is that game on Friday or Saturday?

>>76848795

>ACC mediocrity

That ACC mediocrity is what pads the schedule and helps those teams have a chance at going undefeated.

If they had to play an Oklahoma school, or Texas (assuming they're good again under Herman) every year, they could get too banged up to have a chance at the CFP later in the season.

>>76848795
You play each other and Louisville. The majority of the ACC outside of those three and maybe VaTech/Miami/Georgia Tech is pretty bad every year. You don't want to play in a conference like the SEC or Big 12 where 3+ teams are consistently ranked. You'd lose games.

>>76851402
So?
The ACC is nothing than a Yankee basketball conference anymore
We should move to keep our dignity

>>76848795
>Florida State considered going to the Big 12
>The Big 12 didn't give them a good enough offer
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
WHY BIG 12 WHYYYYYY

>>76851476

As an OU fan, you should KNOW that the administration at OU can't wait to crash that conference with no survivors so they can bolt to the SEC.

They were probably the ones who sabotaged the deal.

>>76821548
The only one with a strong enough schedule is Colorado State and there's no way in hell they're running the table.

>>76851858

Alabama losing to CSU in week one would be the greatest upset in history.

I think it would even overthrow App State over Michigan.

>>76851950

I meant in week three; I had the App State/Michigan upset on my mind, and that was definitely week one.

>>76851950
It would only overthrow Michigan if Colorado State were a FCS team with 63 scholarships instead of the 85 that all FBS teams have.

>>76851950
>I think it would even overthrow App State over Michigan
Objectively incorrect

>>76852182
>>76852214

Michigan was not ranked #1 coming into the preseason. Alabama is coming off a championship game appearance, something that has only happened 3 times in history.

FCS teams are pretty routinely beating P5 teams now, it's not the same era as it was when App State beat UM. Just last year Richmond beat Virginia, Eastern Washington beat WSU, and NDSU beat a pretty high ranked Iowa team (which went on to beat Michigan itself later in the season).

With the bifurcation of FBS into P5/G5, there's an argument to be made that the chasm between them is reminiscent of what used to be between Div 1A and 1AA teams. Especially when you consider the amounts of money being thrown around in P5 TV deals and G5 TV deals.

I'm just saying there's an argument to be made. It would be unprecedented for a CFP championship team to lose to an unranked G5 team so early in the season the next year.

should the college football playoff national championship be considered a bowl?

>>76851476
We got that ACC channel going up, we gonna be on TeeVee!

>>76852415
What the fuck they gonna call it? The Money Bowl?

Sit down.

>>76851533
I highly doubt that, if OU wanted to crash the conference they would have just left when they got offers. OU has been more willing and vocal about keeping the conference together, they like their power/influence within the conference I think. Even if you're right they're probably not going to let the conference die until they get Ok Lite into the fold aswell, which apparently was the deal-breaker in the first place. OU is also one of the few teams in the conference that actually cares about the Big 12's "strength of schedule" image since they're one of the only teams in the conference that can consistently vie for a spot in the CFP

>>76851533
>I'm a fan of OU, that means I have intimate, exclusive access to all administrative decisions.

First of all, no.

Second of all, OU already showed that to be bullshit when they declined the PAC so they could stay in a conference with Texas.

Third, HELL no.

>>76851361
They play each other every year. Both teams are light years ahead of those shitty no defense big12 teams.

>>76845128
>beating Ohio State in Columbus

Oh boy I'm laughing

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>>76838569
>UNT
Lamar (FCS): W
@SMU: L
@Iowa: L
UAB: W
@Southern Miss: W
UTSA: W
@FAU: W
ODU: W
@ La Tech: L
UTEP: W
Army: W
@Rice: W
Depending on La Tech does, we could win the west. 1st runner up depending on how UTSA's recruits come together.

Bowl confirmed, lads.

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Describe your team with a Seinfeld quote/clip/.gif/image/etc.

>Tennessee

>>76856281
I'm not searching for a pic for that joke, but my school is a G5, so .. Elaine dancing.

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>>76856281
>Florida State's 2017 football roster

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>Kramer as a big fat roasted turkey

>>76826816
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>>76856867
you are

>>76855552
aOSU is going to be mediocre this year

>>76828589
actually they are characteristics of both modern conservatives and liberals, both parties are shit desu

>>76826989
>White trash Wal-Mart fans who never had a shot at getting into UNC shill the Tar Heels nonstop
I agree with you for the most part but this is literally any flagship school

>>76852308
85 scholarships vs 63.

UNADDRESSED

>>76852308
>it would be unprecedented for a CFP Championship team to lose so early

Well there have only been like 3 CFP championships so a lot of things are unprecedented for them

>>76854349

I think OU is playing the waiting game until the Big XII's media deal is up, THEN they'll bolt. Anything between now and then is just keeping face.

>>76854555

I wasn't say that I was the fan, I was referring to BoomerSooner, who is the fan.

OU would never fit in the PAC-12 culturally, and in the P5, the PAC-12 is barely a step above the Big XII. OU almost certainly is playing the waiting game to get into the SEC.

>>76858973

No, but the relative amounts of money between the programs FAR exceeds a 63:85 ratio.

I'm not bashing on App State, they're one of my top 3 favorite schools.But the upper echelons of today's P5 have as much or more distance between the G5 as the old 1A and 1AA divisions did once upon a time.

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>>76856281
WSU

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>>76861798
and here's the fans

TEXAS BITCHES

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>waking up on another Saturday without football
only 8 weeks away

>>76852308
Oklahoma had made the national championship game 3 times in 5 seasons before losing to unranked TCU in 2005
TCU was 5-6 the previous season

>There are people in this thread RIGHT NOW who dont believe in WVU winning the big 12

>>76868146
That's because those people aren't fucking casuals, like yourself.

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2017
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1
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>>76859832
>OU is waiting to get into the SEC

No they're not.

First off, they already publicly declined to be in a conference without Texas.

Second, the SEC declined to add any more teams, and the last time they expanded they picked MISSOURI

Third, and I really can't stress this enough: You're a fucking idiot.

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>>76856281
>noon games in the Swamp

>>76868146
I predict Kansas is going to win

>>76864383
I was watching a highlight reel earlier of the best clutch plays of the past season, and right after Texas beat Notre Dame and the announcer says "TEXAS IS BACK they showed the Kansas game ending.

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>FSU has been heavily recruiting neighbor to play for them
>plays defense
>paid to bring him down to visit school
>were heavily pushing him to sign in visit
>staff piss him off for making fun of his music program questions
>will likely lose him to app sate

oh man his mom was so pissed at them too for their shit when they came back from the trip

>>76872638
Good, i want ball players

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Brandon Wimbush will bootyblast his way to a Heisman trophy.

Screencap this.

>>76875161
In all seriousness, who are the top contenders?

>>76876333
Lamar Jackson, annual meme RB from Bama, Sam Darnold

>>76871957
>big 12 getting respect
>east coast media bias

pick one.

Can someone explain the difference between p5 and g5 conferences? I don't understand

>>76879440
Simple. P5 conferences are the big schools like flagship campuses and such. They're the ones who make the playoffs. G5 are mostly directional schools, other campuses of huge schools, and city schools. They only make the bowls.

>>76880931

There are City schools in the P5: Pittsburgh, Louisville, etc.

There are flagship schools in the G5; Nevada, Wyoming, New Mexico.

>>76880931
P5 = Power Five. Traditional powers with all the money. They've been Division I for decades.

G5 = Group of Five, those are just the newer editions, still with the same number of scholarships and bowl access as the P5, but ya know... not as popular.

>living vicariously through college kids throwing balls around
fucking lelmao

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Stick to football for the love of god.

>>76883783
you are going to die lonely with no offspring, best of all; there is nothing you can do to change that

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Are you guys excited for the new NCAA College Football game that SHOULD be coming out soon?

>>76884080
Embarrassing.

>>76867074
I used to think like that but then summer is gone and you miss it. I really enjoy the anticipation of college football all summer.

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>they'll look up, and shout "save us"
>and i'll whisper, "no."

How would you say this thread is going

>>76889024
Better than the last 2 threads where the last one died and the one before that we argued about pre season rankings.

>>76889024
Good

Gimme some NY6 Predictions /cfb/

>Rose Bowl
Kansas State vs. Wisconsin
>Sugar Bowl
Florida vs. Florida State
>National Championship
Florida vs. Wisconsin

>Cotton Bowl
Washington vs. Oklahoma State
>Peach Bowl
Alabama vs. South Florida
>Fiesta Bowl
USC vs. Ohio State
>Orange Bowl
Clemson vs. Mississippi State

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>>76890071
Florida and FSU in a playoff bowl would never happen. One or the other would be in due to the Sunshine Showdown Rivalry.

>>76890230
Undefeated FSU and one loss UF or visa versa would easily get into the playoffs. The only undefeated team to go to the playoffs last year was Alabama
Obligatory:
>Florida Clown College edumacation

Mizzou

>>76890071
Prediction: Florida State will not make a NY6 bowl

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>>76890399
First off, that's not how it works with UF and FSU, the rivalry makes it so only one can move on. Secondly, UF has been shooting itself in the foot for the past 4 seasons against FSU and with their current team, it's going to be difficult to change that.

>>76890460
Will win the SEC EAST <3

>>76890660
>no get
Still safe

>>76891063
>First off, that's not how it works with UF and FSU
What the fuck are you talking about? There is nothing that states this. If fact: Florida won its first Natty in a Sugar Bowl rematch vs. FSU

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Can we just nuke Florida already you guys are both faggots

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>>76867074
>looking forward to football
I have moved past such childish delusions

>>76891124
I'm just saying, FSU vs UF happening in the playoff era would be very rare.

>>76891326
If you'll stop inbreeding, you can nuke us

>>76881053
Well the difference is that that t is a flagships are in low population states.

Saving the thread!

To have just won the natty, I barely see any Clemson posts

188th for go gators

>>76899051
189th for Roll Tide

>>76899011
It's a pretty small school in a low population State. The majority of people that go there are pleasant people too. For both of those reasons you wouldn't find them on 4chan

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>when California won't schedule schools that they thing oppress LGBT rights

So what happens if a state school in California makes it ALL THE WAY to the Natty to play Alabama? They just forfeit?

>>76838569
UF

Michigan: L
North Colorado: W
Tennessee: W
@ Kentucky: W
Vandy: W
LSU: L
Texas A&M: W
UGA: W
@ Mizzou: W
@ SCAR: W
UAB: W
FSU: L
Bama (SECCG): L
NW (Outback Bowl): W

>>76899518
It only counts taxpayer funding, and apparently it's slightly unclear whether or not whether sports are included in that. In all likelihood, if that happened, they would just turn to private donations to the athletic departments and not be able to submit expense reports.

>>76838569
WE WILL BOOTYBLAST YOU

ND
Temple: W
Georgia: W
@BC: W
@MSU: W
Miami OH: W
@UNC: L
USC: W
NC State: W
Wake Forest: W
@Miami FL: W
Navy: W
@Stanford: L
10-2
Hopefully a NY6 bowl :^)

>>76827811
>get engineering job in birmingham
there's a flaw right there
but it will be fixed if you switch to mobile

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>>76899664
>the Gatah losing to LSU at home after last year
naw senpai

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Remember Alabama can't defend this guy

>>76902003
Good lord who is this sex t-rex?

since we're about a month away what are some expectations for you team heading into the season?
>fighting illini
that they get at least 1 win

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>>76902003
>that receding hairline

On an unrelated note, is that what women in South Carolina look like?

>all this shit-talking

When the fuck are training camps, got-dammit

>>76891326
>Can we just nuke Florida

Well we're rolling back legislation on global warming, so it'll be underwater pretty soon. How's that?

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JUST

TEXAS IS BACK FOLKS!
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cN_gnUkZs-M

>>76904462
>big twelve
>shit

pick both

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>>76904462

Pure gold.

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How do we fix this mess?

>>76904438
What's wrong with the PAC 12?

>>76904523

What, in your opinion, is wrong with the MWC? It's a solid mid-major conference with some great programs.

>>76886974
[CITATION DESPERATELY NEEDED]

>>76904564
they have the capacity to compete with the P5, just as much as the AAC does, and they consistently fuck it up.

>>76904871

>and they consistently fuck it up.

And why do you think that is so? Money? Talent? Recruitment? Lack of interest?

>>76904886
Lack of interest. Sad.

can someone explain how the top 25 works? I mean I understand the basic concept but it doesn't seem to always make sense.
for example, last season WSU was ranked 23rd when they played UW who was 6th at the time. WSU lost and was unranked. why does losing to the 6th place team make them go down to unranked? I mean UW was supposed to win

>>76904929

Well, that would just depend on getting people interested. It's stating the obvious, but the best way to get asses in seats and eyes on TV sets is to keep winning consistently.

>>76904871
>>76905017

I watch Boise State games when they're on. They're one of my top 10 teams that I follow.

>>76904967
There's more than one Top 25, one from the press, one from the coaches, and one from our UberOverlords, the Committee.

WSU was 23rd in the country, out of 130. So yes, losing knocks them down a couple pegs.

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>>76905017
A team isn't bad because the fans aren't coming; the fans aren't coming because the team is bad.

When I say "lack of interest," I meant "the university is not interested in making the team better."

>>76904929
Even if they had schools and won consistently there are no marquee schools within MWC. The closest you could argue they had to having that was when BYU was a member. As it currently stands it's the outcast conference full of also-ran state universities, flagships that don't generate much interest, and a service academy.

>>76905037
but the team they lost to was 6th. why does loser to a team that's above them send them down?
I get it's just what all the voters think but I just don't get how losing to the 6th team wold make them go down

>>76905048

>the university is not interested in making the team better.

Follow the money. If they had a monetary interest, even if it's just perceived due to prestige, almost any college would probably be more invested in improving their program.

>>76905062
It's not just that they lost it's that they lost badly. Plus there were other teams that had won that week and as a result earned the right to rise in the rankings.

>>76905100
so it was more of other teams doing better coupled with a bad loss?

>>76905112
Yes, granted even a good loss may have resulted in them going down in the rankings as well due to teams that won that week. In most respects the rankings are just people's judgement of how "hot" a team is.

>>76905060
>No marquee universities

Boise State, San Diego State, Air Force.

You could've chosen any post to reply with your newfag post, and we thank you for choosing ours.

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Will Wisconsin ever bring back the based red helmets?

>>76909079
>Caring about Wisconsin

>>76872638
>will most likely lose him to App State

I didn't see that coming.

>>76905060
Boise is literally THE marquee G5 school, has been for years.

Colorado State is also about to surge.

>>76910936

>Boise is literally THE marquee G5 school, has been for years.

While I agree, one could make the argument for Houston as well--especially with the success they've had in the past few years.

At the very least, they're the closest thing to a "destination job" in the AAC, the same as BSU is in the MWC.

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>>76872638
kek FSU's music program is one of the few things they do right, and they can't even handle answering a few questions about it.

>>76911060
Chiefs are cool but they don't know how to party. All they do is go to to a place called the "backyards" and just roll doobies. We are saving this kid from being that.

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https://www.bloombergquint.com/onweb/2017/05/31/facing-charter-shortage-college-football-reconsiders-the-bus

Is your school going to need a bus?

http://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/inside-college-football-realignment-may-not-be-an-active-topic-but-its-out-there/amp/

It also looks like kansas is trying to set itself up for the future with a new stadium

>>76912470
The Big 12 need Clemson and Florida State now

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UT-Rio Grande to the Fun Belt WHEN???

http://goutrgv.com/news/2016/2/19/GEN_0219165130.aspx

>>76912986
>Vaqueros

Had to look it up. It's Spanish for Cowboys.

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They're going to get away with it, aren't they?

>>76912986
Is there any speculation about anything?
Stadium location?

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>>76913084
Looks like the city of Edinburg is considering expanding their 10k seat soccer stadium for them to play football games in.

http://riograndeguardian.com/edinburg-leaders-we-are-ready-to-house-utrgv-football-program/

>>76912986
That's two in the WAC
They should get Eastern Washington, Idaho, and 4 others and jump back to FBS

>>76913165
Oh so they was gonna use that stadium
10,000 ain't bad for a FCS school

>>76912986
I think they should spend 5-10 years at the FCS level before moving up.

For a program that has never had football before, spending time in FCS helps iron out the kinks before spending FBS-level money.

>>76913198
Yeah it's a really nice stadium. Brand new. Looks like it's their colors too.

>>76913053

they better not

>>76913177
I'd love to follow a Northeast Conference with
>Idaho
>Eastern Washington
>Montana
>Montana State
>North Dakota
>NDSU
>South Dakota
>South Dakota St

>>76899011
Sup friend.

>>76913352
We could just sabotage the Big Sky

>>76912986
They could do really well.

The Rio Grande Valley is pretty isolated from the rest of Texas. They are several hundred miles from the nearest FBS program (UTSA).

There are over a million people in the Valley that are starved for some good football. They could sell out every game. There's basically no competition of any kind down there.

>>76912540
Not happening with the ACC's exit fee.

>>76826989
They fought so hard to keep Charlotte from getting a handegg team.

>>76913463
It's worth the Big 12's time for them to pay it
Everyone who isn't Texas and Oklahoma need to come together and pay it

>>76912540
The Big 12 needs to stop looking east.

1. Drop West Virginia. The travel sucks and the market isn't worth it.

2. Add a team actually in the Big XII footprint. There are plenty of candidates in the AAC and Mountain West.

>>76912986
>no date on article

How old is this?

>>76913584
Date is in the URL.

Feb 19th, 2016

>>76912986

JMU fans on suicide watch

>>76913572
No better market and recruiting ground than Florida
And Clemson is a pretty good tag along

>>76913584
12 months

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>>76913605
>Live look at FCS

Tennessee will win the East

>>76911430
I meant your music program as a whole, not just the marching band. FSU's fine arts programs are the best in the state

>>76826730
My Dad interviewed for a professor's job with Liberty, and he said that as a conservative professor they gave him a bad feeling.

>>76913572
THIS
THIIIIIISSSS
WVU to the Big 12 is fucking terrible. Anyone else east of the mississippi would be a travesty. There's plenty of unexploited markets and programs with potential in the MWC

>>76913801
your Dad has good instincts. Best to avoid that institution.

>>76913792
>implying Seminoles Talker knows or cares about FSU's academics

>>76913746
Not pictured: Liberty University flying away in a private Helicopter, but wishing they had been invited on the lifeboat.

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>>76914123
They don't need a helicopter, because God will save them.

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>>76912287
This is EXACTLY why the G5 conferences are going to need to realign regionally. Driving distance conferences are the future.

>ECU travels an average of 750 miles (1,200 kilometers) for its road football games, paying $430,000 to fly Allegiant Air.

And that's just football. Imagine paying that travel cost for MBB, WBB, Baseball, Softball, MSoc, WSoc, Tennis, Field Hockey, ect.

That is millions of dollars the G5s could be spending elsewhere.

>Also, check my captcha

>>76914293
nah, Liberty would be telling the other passengers to be calm and pray because "God will save us"

Meanwhile, they'd be having their servants prep the helicopter in secret so no one else tries to get on.

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>>76914351
I agree. regional is the only way forward

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>>76914415

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>>76914429
>4 FCS call-ups

That's a little far-fetched, but the rest of the schools make sense. ECU might not like being away from their AAC rivals, but that's what you get when your conference looks like this eyesore

>>76914415
Missing UCF, but I like the rest of this.

It's a good mix of AAC/SBC/CUSA

>>76914429
That'd be sweet. You could drive to every road game. It would be great for attendance and rivalries.

>>76914429
Swap ETSU for Liberty and you have yourself a conference.

ETSU ain't ready for FBS. Chattanooga and EKU definitely are though, imo

>>76914516
I would kill to be able to drive to some away games without having to drive through the night or book a hotel for 2 nights.

Too expensive for a college student.

>>76914429
Change ETSU for UCF and we're cooking with fire

>>76914550
>>76915189
ETSU for Liberty and Chattanooga for UCF

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>adding an FCS team to FBS just so the conference map lines up
College sports do not work that way.

>>76913867
We are on a sports board after all

>fart noise

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>>76915847
what did he mean by this?

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>>76915209
Chattanooga would make a great G5 imo. Their football stadium is FBS ready and they are regular playoff contenders in FCS.

'Nooga is a great town, too.

>>76903238

women in the southeast.

GO GAMECOCKS FUCK CLEM5ON WOOOOOO FOOTBALL NIGGAS

DRUNK GAMECOCK GUY IS HERE FOR ANOTHER SEASON OF COCKIN ASS

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>Garbaugh

>>76919225

if he hadn't sucked up to that obama coon, he'd done better

>>76919187
there are some ugly ones too though.

incest is rough like that

>>76919210
Colombia is the asshole of the South.

What a godforsaken place.

>>76919366

all good as long as you're second cousins in most areas

>>76919375

every capital of a southern city is a shithole because instead of having a niggertown like smaller places, capitals have their own niggerpolis.

But Columbia is nice compared to Atlanta.

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>69
>nice

>>76908465
>>76910936
And not a single national championship in that list of schools. Plus being the marquee G5 school is like being the "12 year old" Dominican kid in Little League. Yeah they might look good but their competition is shit.

If the Big 12 dropped West Virginia and picked up Colorado State, Tulane, and Memphis would that set them on the right track?

>>76918924

To be fair they do have a national baseball title. Plus the sunbelt did approach jmu first but they said no due to wanting the cusa instead.

>>76919561
Can't pick up Colorado State without also taking Wyoming Cowboy

>>76919574
Why would they add a school in a state that has a smaller population than Austin?

>>76919419
>Every capital of a southern city is a shithole
nope.

Raleigh, Nashville, Montgomery and Richmond are all nice cities.

And Atlanta is way better than Colombia.

>>76919561
>Colorado State
Maybe. Depends on if they live up to the hype this season and beyond
>Tulane
No. They don't help you anywhere.
>Memphis
No. Take Boise instead.

>>76919501
>competition is shit
They regularly wreck top ranked P5 teams in nationally-televised bowl games at the end of the year.