Aside from nostalgia, why would anyone think that Fat Ronaldo

At his peak Fat Ronaldo > Cristiano Ronaldo. CR was a resourceful winger at Man Utd with little end product and is a pure poacher at Real. Fat Ronaldo combined creating and finishing in his best times.

>>76755943
Fat Ronaldo was up there with the best strikers of all time, but he could only maintain that level for a few years before his body caved in.

Had he stayed fit, he'd probably be considered by far the best player of his generation.

>>76756163
True and fat Ronaldo didn't have the work ethic of gay Ronaldo, that's why he only lasted less than 8 years. Same for Ronaldinho, but even shorter

>>76756198
>Had he stayed fit, he'd probably be considered by far the best player of his generation.

He already is though. If he stayed fit he'd be regarded the best player of any generation.

>>76755943
Mental illness

>>76756213
lol Ronaldo when he was at Barcelona went to the carnival in Brazil in mid-season. Dude was just having fun out there.

Meanwhile Cristiano treats it like its life and death.

>a guy who cant pass, terrible at headers, terrible at free kicks, terrible at long shots is better than cristiano ronaldo

my sides

>>76755943
Absolutely none. Peaky Fatnaldo (a pretty short interval btw) is great, but still below the lv of CR7

>>76759072
but barring headers you just described CR7 there

people just like the could've/would've/should've and can't simply accept the fact that Cristiano is better.

If Cristiano played in an era before Fatnaldo, people would've thought that Fatnaldo will never achieve Cristiano level.

>>76756163
Basically this. It's not that I don't rate ronny7 but his successful period was mainly as a striker with no nonsense finishing. Ronaldo could make goals out of nothing while cr is the perfect end station in a well balanced squad.

Ronaldinho, Ronaldo, and many others were better than gay Ronaldo at their peak.


Ronaldo will be remembered for being one of the players that worked the hardest to mantain his form. Despite being a egocentric cunt he sets a good example of professionalism and dedication

>>76758789
That's Romario, m8. He made a deal with Cruyff that if he scored twice he could leave to Brazil to enjoy Carnaval:

https://www.footbie.com/video/romario-the-story-of-asking-cruyff-to-go-to-the-carnival

>Portuguese and Spanish speaking players overrated all the time
z z z

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>>76760892
Nah Ronaldo did too.

>>76761295
It happens all the years. It's a vacation time, if I'm not mistaken (Romario even metions it). Neymar always come to Carnaval as well.

>>76755943
>why would anyone think that Fat Ronaldo was better than Cristiano Ronaldo?
Because I'm sure fat Ronaldo is better than fat Cristiano.

>>76756163
You don't know what you're talking about.

Ronaldo in his last 3 seasons at Utd had loads of end product.

At Real, he's only become a poacher in the last 2 seasons.

From 2009-2013 he was doing everything. Runs, long shots, free kicks.

>>76759408
>terrible at long shots
>CR7

You're really reaching there mate.

Ronaldo's hattrick vs Man Utd in the 2003 Champions League is probably the best attacking performance I've ever seen.

Actually, that whole game was insane.

Most people here won't be old enough to watch watched it live though.

>>76756163
If it's so easy to be a finisher why didn't Fat Ronaldo score more goals with tap ins?

>>76762677
Because he was fat.

He lacked the athleticism to get into those positions consistently.

Take for example, CR7's second goal in the CL final vs Juve. Fat Ronaldo wouldn't get there in time.

>Le tap in man vs le power past 6 defenders and score man

Hmmm

>>76756163
>At his peak Fat Ronaldo > Cristiano Ronaldo
so what? at his peak, ronaldinho was better than zidane, yet nobody ever says he was a better player nor had better career. it's the same with fat ronaldo and cristiano.

>>76762954
>Le tap in 10000 goals man vs le power past 6 literally whos from a relegation tier team and score man
really thinking right now

>>76755943
They probably think he was better because he was.

>>76763164
you forgot to add "once a year"

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>Fatnaldo: 0 CLs

really fires up the neurons

because Fat Ronaldo was delightful to watch, you were expecting him to make some trick and score, when you see CR7 you know it's just power shot goals and tap-ins and all you expect is a meme celebration

>>76756213
Lmao, sure it was his work ethic and not his FIVE knee injuries.

>>76758789
That's Romario, for sure. He asked Cruyff if he could, then Cruyff said: Ok, if you score 2 goals I let you go. He scored the 2 goals and was sub so he could get a plane as fast as possible.

>>76762875
lmao

That's him in 2005, already fat as fuck:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R9a4A6zd28k

>>76763502
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_7lhQJnJcQE

Here with a simple pass and a fake he put the goal past 6 defenders.

>>76763636
Your point being...? I didn't even mentioned TSU in my post m8.

>>76763751
The thread is TSU vs Fat Ronaldo

>>76763502
lol read my post again.

I said consistently. He didn't have the endurance to do that all game.

>>76762677

Because he wasn't a tap-in merchant. At his peak he would drop back and get more involved with play. Also football was different then. You can't compare stats from 20 years ago with today, we're in the era of the super clubs and 45+ a season becoming the norm for elite strikers. Back when there was actual parity and the same 4 clubs couldn't just hoover up every top player, 30 goals a season was elite tier, now that's what mid-tier strikers like Kane get.

>>76763828
My post isn't. Learn2read.

>>76763845
He actually did. But then again, how you could know, unless you watched La Liga at the time, which you obsviously didn't.

Peak Ronaldo was better than peak cristiano but cristiano is an autist who keeps training and training
Cristiano is by far the second best player of the history
Yes he doesn't have the skills of even the top 10 but he has persistance
Messi is number 1 btw

>Under 18 year old CR7 customers thinking he can be compared to Fat Ronaldo
Fat Ronaldo at Inter before his knees exploded was the toppest of top tier

Sportsuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu

>>76756213
>ignoring the fact that fat Ronaldo had so many injuries

>>76761110
>buyernliga
lmao

>>76759072
>Ronaldo
>terrible at passing and long shots

lol, you never saw him play did you?

also he was decent at free kicks, he was the fk taker at inter when he was there and scored a few. The reason he didn't take them elsewhere is because he wasn't a glory obsessed fool like Cristano so he knew to let people who were better at them take them like Figo, Rivaldo, Zidane, Beckham etc.

>>76763426
He had 5 injuries because the lack of work ethic you dumb macaco

>>76761741
>has one of the worst shot conversion ratios in football

You throw enough shit at something some of it is bound to stick, but you can't be considered good at long range shots when it takes you 20 attempts to score one.

>>76759072
cristiano is terrible at free kicks is just that he shoots so many of them

>>76763306
You expect a shitton if goals that sin you titles. And that is exactly what you get.

>>76764052
Lol sure thing kid.

>>76764107
Implying being fat doesn't mean your legs suffer more
Implying being fat doesn't mean you have bad work ethic
I don't expect a monkey with sandals to understand logic though

>>76764186

3 of his knee injuries came before he was fat though. He was lean as fuck in the 90s.

>>76764186
Kek

>>76764186
He was fat after is first injuries you dick. If you were old enough to remember then you would know that

Because past thing is just glorified, old people never admit someone as better than pelé even in him time football as semi amateur and him 1000 gols about 1/3 or more as scored in literally army, construction workers teams, old people don't admit leonel is better than CHEIRADONA. Other "recent" examples? Nust see Romario, Cafu and R Carlos, now they are treated like incontentable goats, but 10 ago, people and media says romario is just arrogant lazy opportunist, same to CR but CR is not lazy, the two leftbacks just ex footballers in active like romario, slow and can't decent crossing to cafú and "mascared" to RC, this even in about 1999, everybody complains that two guys in seleção is just injustice to young players.

>>76764186
You are right, obesity adversely affects kinematics for obvious reasons but is proven to accelerate joint degradation via oxidants and increased metalloproteinase activity leading to joint component breakdown

>>76764351
but Messi is better than Pele
not better than Cheiradona tho, maybe he needs more cocain and less tax evading

>>76764231>>76764287
he was always fat lol

>>76764464
he said OLD people tho
and messi isnt better than any of the both

>>76759072
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ECoR__tJNQ

>>76764351

Recency bias is just as prevalent as glorifying the past, if not more so. Just look at how quick some people were to name Suarez as the GOAT striker last year after his 60 goal season and Neuer the GOAT GK as early as 2014.

>>76764495
old people knows nothing
time kills neurons

>>76764287
>If you were old enough to remember then you would know that

lmao most people here are 16 years pal

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>>76764464
PELÉ ÉS MÁS GRANDE Y MAYOR QUE MARADONA! YO PUESSO TE PROVASTES! JAJAJAJAJAJAUJAUEAJEUAJEU

>>76764576
BTFO

>>76764464
How many champions league did Maradona won again?

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>>76760892
>left at halftime

>>76764622
Look, the retard spic kid strikes again!

>>76764353
We are not going to let you come to europe just cause you can read a medic book nigger

>>76755943
Because people compare primes and not entire careers.

In his prime, fat Ronaldo was better than CR was in his own.

>>76764646
I'd answer you but you are going to get killed tomorrow in some armed robbery so I won't bother

>>76764576
mas o negro usava o pinto pra foder garotos :)

>>76764657
Cristiano is a better player then

>>76764657
If we compare primes then TSU isn't even top500 m8.

We should compare entire careers. Period.

>>76764622
Well, in 80's european futbol and even world football (america do sul teams rape euro teams everytime) and is not like nowdays when 3 or 5 teams are much strong to others, and goat player at time can be play in "relative" smalls teams. Zico in their best time and probably best of world in this time just transferred to UDINESE, and cheradona too transferred from farcelona to mafiapoli its impossible to just fantasy nowdays, when a mediocre argentina or br league players went to halal, farça, buyern etc.

>>76764716
Overall, definitely.

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>>76764691
JAJAJAJA PELÉ DEBUTÓ CON UM PIBE

seriously, Juan Pablo? Also maradona is just unbearable shit person, him can even cant discuss with veron in beneficent pope match!

>>76764828
sorry for not recognizing your nation btw

>>76764691
We all do m8. ^^

>>76764576
blacks are showers not growers

>>76755943
Are we comparing PLAYERS or CAREERS? You should have stated this first.

>>76764652
Don't worry Ill just take the job you won't work, you're obviously lazy and not too bright

>>76765018
What job? Illegal metal scavenger?

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>>76765018
Enjoy your salary m8

>>76765094
Medical officer at a Spanish siesta facility for unemployable youths

>>76765141
Wish I was Spanish so that I could be paid by Germans to do nothing but idle about

>>76755943

Fat Ronaldo being Better than Cristiano is absolutely meme and false memory.

When it comes to club, Cristiano has FAR more assists and goals than Fat Ronaldo.

With that said Fat Ronaldo was a BEAST during World Cup 2002.

>>76765435
That's what I say, are we comparing individual players or individual careers? Because if the latter, than TSU is only behind Messi at all time. If the former, than TSU is not even top 50.

And Fatnaldo was OK in 2002, nothing more. It was way far from his bests perfomances.

>>76765203
that's a big fucking lie

There is 0 comparison. CR7 is a top 10 of all time, fat Ronaldo was a top 5 striker of for about 8 seasons.

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>>76765435

The lowest standard world cup in living memory.

>>76765644
I know, Spaniards have probably already exhausted EU reserves with their unemployment

>>76765608

Fatnaldo scored 8 goals that tournament including two in the final.

>>76765722

Agreed - worst WC of my lifetime.

>>76765816
That's far form being a "BEAST" m8.

>>76765722
>not 2006

>>76765722
98 > 94 > 2006 > 2002 > 2010 > 2014

>>76764287
Getting fat in your early 20s is normal for fatties. Blaming injuries for having no self control is laughable.

>>76765872
Show me a pic of him fat on his early 20s pls.

>>76756198
2bf injuries, wasnt up to him

>>76755943

The Worst Moment In Football History | Fatnaldo Injury |

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HWUkSSFaWso

>>76755943
WC

>>76763253
>CR: 0 WC

>>76760892
I read sometime during the late 90's/early 00's that Romario wrote a clausul in his contracts that he wasn't going to play or practice during the carneval.

Only underage B& call him fat Ronaldo. That man was God

>>76763164
Underage

>>76766440
Obvsiously a lie, see the video m8. He had to score 2 goals in the first half so Cruyff could release him.

>>76763944
Retarded underaged arab gypsy strikes again. Maradona was twice as good as Messi is and ever will be.

>>76766486
This was after his time in Barcelona obviously. If I remember correctly I read it when he was signing with Vasco da Gama.

>>76766706
>swedish calling me arab and gypsi
lmao

>>76755943
>comparing a striker with a winger

>>76763862
>whats implication you fucking hue nigger

>>76766860
Nice source btw

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>>76764576
Bellini was bigger than Pelé, legend has it he would not allow anyone with a dick smaller than his to speak in the locker room, that's why he was the captain and lift the 50's WC trophy

fat ronaldo
had so many injuries
came back
took the world cup almost by itself

CR
cries at missed goals
cries when he looses
cries when he cries
cries when he scores
havent done anything substantial with portugal
had the audacity to compare himself even with figo
literally a crying metrosexual baby

if cr was playing on the era of the fat ronaldo with the defenders at his time he would have btfo from football

>>76755943
Did you see him play at his peak???

Dude was a freak. He's up there with Messi in terms of raw talent. Just watch him play at inter/Barca

>>76755943

R9 won the WC 2 times, scoring the vital goals in 2002 and was arguably the best player in 2006, until Brazil got drunk as fuck the day before their game against France and got eliminated.

CR7 is a whiny prima donna with a world class team around him.

>there are people that unironically think fatnaldo's two year peak is equal to ronaldo's career-long level of play
>there are people that unironically think fatnaldo is anywhere near maradona
>there are people that think fatnaldo's peak>cr's peak

>>76770900
>R9 won the WC 2 times
He was a bench player in the first one you faggot. And what GOAT player didn't have a world class or elite class team around them? Messi played in a Barcelona team that featured the core of one of the strongest national team sides of all time. Maldini played in stacked Milan teams. Maradona's Napoli was also stacked.

>>76771015

What on earth is your point lardo?

>>76771015
>Maradona's Napoli was also stacked.

kek

>>76763164
You are still pissed of ronaldo shitting on holland in 98 lol

Actually, where you even born then?

>>76771137
M-Muh Careca

2 world cups vs 4cls and 1euro

>>76771137
His strike partner won Serie A player of the year in the previous season if memory serves me correctly, but you are right since they finished 12th

>>76771392
lol

>>76771283
>You in charge of identifying flags
>>76771037
My point is that saying Cristiano has a world class team around him as a detraction is retarded since with the exception of maybe 4 or so players most legends played in world class teams.

>>76771508
I guess that everyone would agree that Cristiano isn't the most vital player on his team m8. Marcelo, Modric, Isco and even Ramos are way more important than him.

>>76755943

CRonaldo only surpasses him because of his greatness over such a long period but he could only dream of matching peak Fatnaldo.

Remember PES6 with Adriano on the cover and he was unstoppable in the game? Fatnaldo was like that in real life.

>>76771540
Isco is debatable, but yes he is not the most important player on the team CURRENTLY. That is not what we were arguing though

>>76771734
It is. Being the most important player on a team full of world class player shows how good you're.

>>76755943
kek I literally thought they were the same guy at different ages

>>76772024
What do you mean by important?

>>76772620
Replace Marcelo-Modric-Isco would be way more difficult than replace tsu.

In ther prime:
ronaldo >>>>>> cr7
ronaldinho >>>>> cr7

Unfortunately Ronaldinho's prime lasted for 3 years and Ronaldo's didn't lasted for much longer.
Ronaldinho = laziness
Ronaldo = injuries

>>76771418
1 WC doesn't even count, it's like saying messi has 4 CL

>>76763253
Take your meds. Chile raping your mind isnt an excuse.

>>76769152
It may have been Edmundo. http://www.worldsoccer.com/blogs/romario-edmundo-bad-boys-brazil-359220

>>76771577
Just look at all the trophies fatnaldo won. An impressive resume people would say.

>>76761813
most people here started watching in 2010

>>76763118
Uh, Dinho was a better player than Zidane for sure

>>76756198
if my aunt had a dick she'd be my uncle, honestly I think peak Cristano is better than peak ronaldo

>>76766084

>>76763118
>yet nobody ever says he was a better player nor had better career
literally everyone

>>76766084
implying euro cups arent as difficult as world cups

>>76755943
Mainly by actually having watched the two play live. Ronaldo was electric and fearsome on the ball. He hit every shot with venom and he ran and dominated the pitch like something out of Apocalypto. Crissy prances around and you forget he's even in the game until he toe pokes a cross into the net from two inches away.

>>76756163
>at Man Utd with little end product
Are just going to ignore his golden boot season with 33 goals?

>>76779006
No but we are going to ignore you because you're canadian.

>>76778977
So you never watched Cristiano at all when he was at United or in his first sew seasons at Madrid?

>tf

Not sure why I'm bothering to type this desu

>>76755943

t. 16yo

You never saw Brazilian Ronaldo play so why are you talking about him?

The great debate

Fatnaldo vs. Gaynaldo

>>76783500
Go back to red-dit. Thanks jamal.

>>76783493
>sew

>>76766706
Football back then was a meme, even fucking Sterling wouldve been goat back then.

>>76761683
This. Oh my fucking god, i swear people on this board don't watch football at all.

>>76756163
Fat Ronaldo at his peak was better than Messi or Ronaldinho at their peaks, what's your point?

One of those guys has 15 goals in the world cup and 2 world cups.

The other has 3 goals in the world cup and 0 world cups.

Sure the gay ronaldo is a better professional. But the fat ronaldo is way better at football.

>>76772785

Messi played great in the knockout stages of that CL

>>76783618
>see the flag
>see the post

Cmon Colombia, you're disappointing me.

>>76783702
Nah Messi's over 90 goal calendar year was what peak performance looks like and won't be touched

>>76783769
He's right, though. By modern standards, maradona was light-jogging in the so called goal of the century and so were the defenders.

>>76771015
>He was a bench player in the first
He was, indeed. But only 23 players could've been called to the World Cup and Ronaldo was only 17. The brazilian population in 1994 was 160 million people, 50% were men. If you only consider young men who played football by that time you would have a lot of guys. And if you only consider pro-players, the competition was fierce for a 17yo be in the squad. He left Cruzeiro to PSV before the World Cup with a 44-goal mark in 46 games, that's what made him be there.

>>76783820
Football back then was murderball m8. Messi aka La Liga baby boy wouldn't survive a year. Don't forget that the main reason Maradona had to leave Barcelona was because he was getting beaten to death.

>>76759072
kek I just assumed you were talking about cronaldo until the terrible at long shots part, cronaldo was good from far, I miss those days

>>76783441
>No but we are going to ignore you because you're canadian
based burger.
Based as fuck

>>76784359
This. Just watch Maradona highligts and you will see that if defenders would challenge the way they did against Maradona in todays's football, those teams would have to leave walk-over every game because of too few players on the pitch.

cronaldo is a fraud, most of the time he has the ball I don't ask myself what crazy shit he'll do, I wonder when will he dive

Ronaldo O Fenomeno was a better footballer. Had it all, easily the best no. 9 of our lifetimes.

>>76785160
>being this mad that portugal ass raped you AT HOME

Lel

>>76783726
>this flag
>this post

>>76755943
bc you haven't seen him playing, obviously

bc the gay protuguese poacher is a tap-in slut,

my gay-friendly OP.

>>76761813
I did. I was young though. 23 now. All I remember was the Beckham free kick

Also Beckham is one of he most underrated footballers that ever lived. His looks and celebrity distracted

>>76756163
>At his peak
I don't think we're arguing peaks, I think this is generally "who was/is better". That includes being able to stay fit, to stay in peak form, avoiding injuries, etc. A lot of that is down to luck, sure, but I think that's what sets Fagnaldo apart over Fatnaldo. Fuck me though, if Fattynaldo had kept his shit up it would have been great (not that he already wasn't).

>>76783726
Mate, Barone won a world cup. A WC win isn't an insta-win card.

>>76787189
>Mate, Barone won a world cup. A WC win isn't an insta-win card.
ya but he didn't even play

Ronaldo was a key player in Brazil titles

>>76771392
Careca alongside Francini and Carnevale were more decisive for the only european title for Napoli.

Maradona only scored fucking penalties. People bash Cristiano for his penalties goals, but I can't remember a competition where he only scored from the mark.

>>76778469
>>76778567
thats like saying neymar>iniesta

>>76759072
You've never seen Ronaldo play, have you?

>>76766084
>>76778564
if the best player of all time came from your countries theyd never have a chance of winning the wc lads

>>76787343

Maradona was a playmaker you tit

>>76771283
embarrasing

>>76787419
Nice excuse. He didn't scored a single, a single, goal from open play for entire competition. 3 goals from pks (only one won himself).

>>76787751

Scoring wasnt his main job. Also there were a lot less goals scored in late 80s football compared to any other era.

>>76787978
It wasn't, for sure. But you'd expect some decisive goals from him in such title, as he didn't played that far from the area.

Platini was the top scorer of the 1984-85 European Cup (now UCL) with 7 goals (3 from pks).

Because they are 15 years old that only remember fat Ronaldo from highlights. They don't realize how short Ronaldo prime was, they don't watched his bad matches.

>>76756163
Lol at this revisionist history