/copalib/ - Copa Libertadores & conmebol general

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needles and pinses

2do por /a/

>>76538264
should we add Latorre and la puntita to the collage?

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> COPA LIBERTADORES

1st seed
- Alt. Mineiro (BRA)
- Lanus (ARG)
- Gremio (BRA)
- River Plate (ARG)
- Palmeiras (BRA)
- Santos (BRA)
- Botafogo (BRA)
- San Lorenzo (ARG)

2nd seed
- Godoy Cruz (ARG)
- Guarani (PAR)
- Emelec (ECU)
- Barcelona Guayaquil (ECU)
- Atl. Paranaense (BRA)
- The Strongest (BOL)
- Jurgen Wilstermann (BOL)
- Nacional (URU)


This is the final draw for Libertadores, all the final key is already settled

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> COPA SUDAMERICANA Ro32

> 1st seed
Copa Libertadores' 3rd teams
- Deportes Iquique (CHI)
- Flamengo (BRA)
- Independiente Medellin (COL)
- Estudiantes (ARG)
- Santa Fe (COL)
- Atletico Tucuman (ARG)
- Chapecoense (BRA)*
- Libertad (PAR)

Copa Libertadores First Stage best teams
- Olimpia (PAR)
- Junior (COL)

Copa Sudamericana First Stage best teams
- Sol de America (PAR)
- Arsenal (ARG)
- U. Catolica (ECU)
- Corinthians (BRA)
- Boston River (URU)
- Liga de Quito (ECU)

> 2nd seed
16 teams left from Sudamericana First Stage
- Cerro Porteño (PAR)
- Racing (ARG)
- Independiente (ARG)
- Oriente Petrolero (BOL)
- Nacional Potosi (BOL)
- Huracan (ARG)
- Fluminense (BRA)
- Yellow Power (ECU)
- Sport Recife (BRA)
- Nacional (PAR)
- Deportivo Cali (COL)
- Bolivar (BOL)
- Palestino (CHI)
- Patriotas (COL)
- Ponte Preta (BRA)
- Defensa y Justicia (ARG)


This is the final draw for Sudamericana, all the key is already settled. The home/away order is gonna be decided by the draw itself until the final. How?
- All the keys from Ro32 are numbered from 1 to 16
- The winner of each key "earn" their key number.
- The key number is gonna be used as the position is used in Libertadores from Ro16 until the final.
So it's all up to luck. If they don't draw the key neither then it's up to which teams gets first.

>>76538329
the wut

>>76539460
what match?

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>>76538379
this is how the Ro16 would've been with the old system

> Atl. Mineiro vs Nacional
> Lanus vs Wilstermann
> Gremio vs Strongest
> River vs Atl. Paranaense
> Palmeiras vs Barcelona
> Santos vs Emelec
> Botafogo vs Guarani
> San Lorenzo vs Godoy Cruz

>>76538379
There's no way there won't be a BRA vs ECU leg, calling it right now.

Keeping this thread on life support

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>>76538379
more unnecessary facts

Final is gonna be hosted in Estádio Independência so far (in other words, until Atl. Mineiro gets eliminated).
Under no circumstances the final is going to be played at Gran Parque Central. Which is bad. No, really.

>>76543614
No way.
CONMEBOL had vetoed the Independência for the 2013 finals because it was too small, so Atlético-MG had to play in the Mineirão.

>>76543650
>CONMEBOL had vetoed the Independência for the 2013 finals because it was too small
wasn't it part of the WC?

Is Ceni still managing São Paulo?

>>76543650
Now you say it, I think Lanus' stadium is too small too.

>>76543699
Belo Horizonte stadium for 2014 WC was Mineirão. Independência (owned by América-MG) is other stadium in BH.

>>76546516
Mineirao is owned by the gov them? Which is Atl. Mineiro actual stadium?

>>76546614
Atlético and Cruzeiro haven't own stadiums. They have as "home" Mineirão, public stadium owned by Minas Gerais government, but currently operated by a private concession

>>76546614
They own none.
Independência is owned by America-MG.
Mineirão is owned by the government, i think, and cruzeiro is who usually plays there.
But they do have a shopping center.

>>76546614
None. They rent both the Mineirão (state-owned) for big profile matches and the Independência for the smaller ones. It's a common practice in most cities, actually.

>>76546499
As much as it hurts me to admit, he is, and will remain so for quite some time now.

>>76546513
I'm not sure but IIRC they played the Sudamericana finals in La Fortaleza without any problems.

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bump

Some news from here. Barcelona's Monumental and Emelec's Capwell are close to becoming the first Ecuadorian stadiums with seats in every stand except for the general (cheap) ones.

>>76546934
> the water is green
Classic conmebol
>>76548654
What about Quito's teams? What's the geographical order of football development over there?

How's the Argentinão doing so far?

>>76549180
Boca has a 4 points lead with 3 games left against relegation fodder.

>>76546680
>>76546666
>>76546649
Thanks for the input

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Bump from Lanus City

>>76549091
LDU named their stadium after Rodrigo Paz, club manager (not President) during their best years (2007-2010). Also they're building elevators or something there.
And the rest, well, Aucas has their awful stadium but at least it's theirs, while the rest of the teams is too poor to build shit at all.

>>76550918
> *gunshots*
> *woman screams in the background*

>>76546680
>>76546513
Final has to has stadiums with a capacity of at least 40.000.
Lanus ground had a maximum capacity of ~47.000, but I can't tell if that fulfills Conmebol security requirements. The minimum is barely over 40.000. While some sources says Sudamericana 2013 final had an attendance over 40.000, unofficially people claim they got around 50.000.

tl dr: while is not clear, Lanus capacity should be just above the limit.

btw, we have colombian league's final first leg today. Starts at the same time than the draw.

>>76551419
Only exception for Conmebol's rule is Defensores del Chaco

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omg I just get it. Barrios saved San Lorenzo
El pibe Barrios saved San Lorenzo.His name is BARRIOS.

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hey, urubros Is this fag any good?

>>76552170
who

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>>76552208
Thanks for the input

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>>76552281
>maxi rodriguez

>>76552217
A las 21hs, hora local.

>>76552362
Graciela, ahi estaremos.

>>76552170
He was until he got injured, he hasn't played a game this year and the media has said literally nothing about him.

I wonder what happened, he doesn't even appear in Racing's page

1 bong to go

>>76543614
>Final is gonna be hosted in
What?

There is no more Ida/vuelta final? The CONMEBOL's directory is so cuck that need to copy UEFA so far??

get ready lads

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*gana la liga*

ok here we go
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JkXF_GhCbJM

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>>76553217
ready

>copalib back on fox deportes
bout damn time

cringe

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>sudamericana first

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>sudamericana

>>76538668
>Boston River

What a fuck is that?

Pls The Strongest, don't sell Chumagod to the fucking LigaMex

ese promotrola no tiene brazos o que

>>76553825
fucking kek

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>>76553760
>>76553793
>I don't rate Sulamiranda

Racing vs Medellin
Who will choke more?

can based Palestino eliminate Flamerda again?

>>76553896
O flamengo é grande, parça.

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>the cheirinho of Flamierda

Who's that cutie grabing the balls

>>76553855
for me, it's yellow force

>Too many Independientes edition

Which hue team should I go for? I'm thinking Corinthians

>>76553953
You mean Bootleg Bootleg Barcelona?

>>76553993
never do that

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>>76552314
>the uruguayan prodigy
ahaha niiiice one... I thought we were friends uruguay

>>76553993
Only if you are a criminal. Go for the underdogs Chape or Ponte Preta.

>>76553932
WHO'S THAT QT ON THE RIGHT ANSWER ME REEEEEEEEEEEEE

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>Patriotas

Tranquilo

>>76554042
Is there a hue team chart I can follow

ALT. PARANAENSE
GUARANI

NACIONAL
MEMELEC

THE STRONGEST

>>76554042
How will black bridge survive playing against the SUN OF AMERICA?

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>>76554061
Five Superbowls and a Copa Sudamericana.

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>>76554042
>>76554070

>>76554072
>>76554088
Nevermind i'm a fucking idiot

Don frio's rigging did it again.

>>76554099
UNSTOPPABLE

>River-Guarani
lmao

Dónde es el sorteo?

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damn
>>76554015
I like Gremio but Maxi isn't very good

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Just give us the cup already

HOT BALLS HOT BALLS HOT BALLS HOT BALLS HOT BALLS HOT BALLS HOT BALLS HOT BALLS HOT BALLS HOT BALLS HOT BALLS HOT BALLS HOT BALLS HOT BALLS HOT BALLS HOT BALLS HOT BALLS HOT BALLS HOT BALLS HOT BALLS HOT BALLS HOT BALLS HOT BALLS HOT BALLS HOT BALLS HOT BALLS HOT BALLS HOT BALLS HOT BALLS HOT BALLS HOT BALLS HOT BALLS HOT BALLS HOT BALLS HOT BALLS HOT BALLS HOT BALLS HOT BALLS HOT BALLS HOT BALLS HOT BALLS HOT BALLS HOT BALLS HOT BALLS HOT BALLS HOT BALLS HOT BALLS HOT BALLS HOT BALLS

>>76552281
Schiavi comeu a Sandra Bullock

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GET THE COLLAGE READY

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>>76554139
*fingers you*

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>ALT

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>Barcelona - Palmeiras

>>76554156
ALT PARANAENSE

Why are there so many BR teams? They can't keep getting away with it.

>>76554100
>Red Bull brasil

Yeah I'll be a real nigga and choose vasco de gama

what is the ball for

>an all-hue side of the bracket possible after one round

scary

go The Strongest!

> The Stronyest

E X I T O

>Barcelona vs Palmeiras
>Emelec vs San Lorenzo
>Fuerza Amarilla vs Ind. Santa Fe
>Liga de Quito vs Bolívar
>U. Católica vs Fluminense

From easiest to most fucked matchup:
Liga > Emelec > Barcelona > FUA > UC

>>76554070
I'm ok with that. Gremio only chokes against shitty spanish speaking teams.

Poor Godoy Cruz, only argie team that didn't dodge a br team.

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HT Cali 1 - 0 Nacional
Wait for refball in Medellin.

>>76554248
Lanús got The Strongest. Arguably the toughest matchup.

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So, tell me /copalib/, will they make it?

Conmebol conmeboling
https://esporte.uol.com.br/futebol/campeonatos/libertadores/ultimas-noticias/2017/06/14/conmebol-envia-documento-sobre-punicao-em-dia-de-sorteio-e-irrita-chape.htm

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>>76554204
>Libertadores will be a carbon copy of Copa do Brasil in your lifetime

>>76553012
Final hosting=final match where the trophy is given.

>Conmebol
>putting 5 of 6 brazilian teams on same side of bracket

>>76554215
lmao that guy was trying too hard to sound anglo, where is he from?

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>Argentine clubs mostly get easiest opponents possible

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>>76554414

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>>76554414
We can't help it, we're just too good.

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> There is people ITT who rates River's 2015 run

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>5 huezilians on one side
>River on the other side against a meme
Donofrio did it again

> There is people ITT who unironically think River can win this

>>76554156
holy shit didn't catch that
how can they be that retarded, like, they weren't typing that in live, they just switched it there, how many people see that slip

My predictions:
>Libertadores
River
Santos
Botafogo
San Lorenzo
Le anus
Gremio
Palmeiras
Alt Mineiro
>Sudamericana
Corinthians
Rasin
Liberty
Santa Fe
Olimpia
Students
Tucumeme
Independiente
Cerro
Cali
Arselel
Black Bridge
No Survivors
Fla
Flu
Ligay

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>>76554468
>>76554473
>bosteros detected

Where's Boca on the bracket? I thought they were a good team?

>>76554135
Era en Luque, bestguay

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>>76554515
>you now remember 2007 Libertadores finals

>>76554515
> you have to be a manurer to notice River getting the hotballs
lmao

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>>76554515
>(you)

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>TFW this just another meh Libertadores without any teams to make it interesting

>no San Pablo
>no Corinthians
>no Peñarol
>no Boca
>no narconal
>no colo colo
>san lorenzo
>botafogo
>george wilsterman
>whyrani

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>>76554585
>SPFW
>Curica

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Libertadores without Bahia isn't Libertadores

go bay my cum

>>76554515
We'd be on the bracket with 6 Brazilian teams. Much like how Riber got a free bracket for the Argentinian Cup they needed to win to qualify for this cup.

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>muh escritorio

>>76554585
but that's a good thing, a shit club can meme it and win it now

>>76554585
it's impossible to say something like this without sounding salty as fuck because your team was eliminated/didn't qualify

>>76554585
Why don't you join Boca's brand new international cup. They said they will create one since big teams can't afford not playing international games.
Why not just ask to play directly in the semifinals? Or just create invitational cups based over achievements of past decades?

Wait that already happened

>>76554712
> Godoy Cruz (CHILE)

I'm fine with this.

Final
Alt. Paranaense x The Strongest

>>76554532
>spits for 90 min straight
Fucking doping fiend

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>>76554532
>>76554994
forgot pick

>>76554874
May Pachamama hear you.

shit's rigged

>>76554585
>San Pablo
>make it interesting
>the team that got eliminated from the Sudamericana by Defensa y Justicia

>>76555139
And this is biased towards who exactly?

>>76555250
arg/br teams ofc ..

>>76555296
Why would it be?

>>76554610
How they didnt make it at least for Sudamericana? Was their 2016 that bad?

FT Cali 2 - 0 Nacional
Final match this sunday in Medellin.

>>76555373
Bahia was in Série B in 2016. Got promoted and is elegible to get a slot for 2018 edition.

Deportivo Cali scored two goals to 0 (zero) from n*cional. Final game will be played Sunday 7pm Eastern time in Medellin.

>>76555462
In case of a global draw there is going to be extra time or straight to benulties.
Or some retarded ass "Nacional was 1st in regular season so they are champions" thing?

>>76555572
Straight to benulties.
Cali should have scored 4 or 5 goals.

>>76554610
When was the last time Bahia played in Libertadores? 1989?

>>76555658
1989

TINO
TINO

>>>>>>>Palestino

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>>76555715
>Libertadores without Bahia isn't Libertadores
>last time Bahia played in Libertadores was in 1989

>>76555572 what he said >>76555596
and there isn't away goal advantage. Your comment really does make me think though. As much as I dislike them, shouldn't they be the legit league winners? I've always thought these finals are a meme and aren't fair. How would you feel if that's how the champion won the title in the Argentine league?

I say remove these meme finals but have a year long tournament. But there's possibly a marketing reason.

>>76555735
Palestino will knock Flamengo out of Sudamericana again

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Too lazy to make a good chart.

>>76555820
Of course, personally I only enjoy Mexico and Colombia playoffs but because they are not from my country. If you already have a proper national cup, there is no need for it.
I would hate if my team won the regular season but lose in the play offs. But, even if it's in my own country, I would have a guilty pleasure watching it if my team isn't involved.
You can make other analysis from that but i don't think nobody denies knockout games are top entertainment despite how "unfair" can it be.

>>76555902
Can we expect people getting killed after Cali vs Junior?

>>76556142
What do you mean? As murderball leading to chimpout or fans?

>>76554712
>every brazilian except Alt Mineiro in the same side

LMAO Gondronaboll doesn't even try to hide it.

>>76554585
I'm ok with São Paulo and all the others out, but a /copalib/ without Boca is always something different.

Lads, I miss Boca.

>>76554204
>Grondronaball doing their thing again

Ohhh who would guess it

>>76556502
>>76556464
> Settling 5 brazilians in an 8 teams key.
> somehow this bad for brazil

lmao, if something it's ensuring that you are getting more teams in the final round. What the caca do you want, play the final with three teams?

>>76556582
Are you brain damaged? How on earth we gonna put more teams in the qfs and semifinals if we have only one team on the other side? Enlight me on this, dear almighty.

>>76556486
Boca, Peñarol, Nacional, Atl. Nacional, Corinthians. It's always good to have something to root against for. Unlike the champions league, bad guys losing is not that rare, which is pleasant.

>>76556613
So according to your theory conmebol also hates Argentina because all argentine teams are on one side of the bracket?

>>76556617
Nah, most of those teams are irrelevant, don't put them and Boca on the same side. Corinthians and Narconal won it recently but have zero tradition, Peñarol is more for da memes and Nacional is there.

>>76556613
> the only country with a team in Ro8 is Brasil
that should be enough to tell you how does it works

> rest of the key is 50% brazilian
> literally 50% of chance to have a brazilian semifinalist

>>76556644
In case you didn't noticed Godoy Cruz is an argie team.

>>76556680
In case you didn't notice, Atl. Paranaense is a brazzie team

>>76556689
> Atl. Paranaense
Mineiro*

>>76556677
>literally 0 chances of having a full brazilian final unless Alt Mineiro meme their way through it

That's how it always worked. Conmebol has no shame of putting all brazilians in the same side so we don't have a full brazilian final like it happened 2x.

>>76556654
You don't necessarily need to have tradition to be hated.

>>76556689
>>76556712
Your point being? I never said that all hue teams were in the same side. Read it again.

>>76556680
Lol I didn't see they made that mistake 2bhwy

>>76556714
> literally 0 chances of having a full argie final unless Godoy Cruz meme their way through it

I love this logic
> dude we put six teams in Ro16, we own this shit
> WHAT? me, the best 1st team in group stage, has to actually put effort (aka meme my way) to reach the final? that's unfair

everyone has to meme their way to the final

>>76556777
I really don't get your point. This is not a complain, it's a fact. After 2005 and 2006, when we did two brazilian finals in a row, Conmebol LITERALLY changed the regulation so we couldn't have it anymore.

Are you 12? How on earth don't you know this? And you have 4 for teams only, don't forget it. The comparision isn't fair.

Mathematically speaking there was a 25% of this happening
Bracket
A B
6 0
1 5
2 4
3 3
The chances for a "fair" distribution (3 on each side) was also 1/4. If there was a "fair" distribution would you still denounce corruption or would you not, noting that both outcomes had the same possibilities?

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>>76556777
Stop arguing. He does that in every /copalib/ thread. The only way to deal with this paranoid HUE is to ignore it. Eventually he'll go away.

Also, checked.

>>76556920
The last time I visited a /copalib/ thread was like 2 months ago, you retard. As always, Urugay in charge of being triggered, lmao.

>>76556901
Do you know that even if we put 2 teams in a semifinal, if one of them is Alt Mineiro, both brazilian teams will you have to face each other?

That's a rule. Not even kidding.

son>>76556920 apologize to your father >>76556945 right now

Don'Frio's at it again. The madman.

>>76556978
Is it because they are Brazilian or because there's a law to try to avoid same countries finals? Isn't that also the case in Europe?

>>76556819
>so we couldn't have it anymore
no one liked this, and it affected Argentina too. The only reason for this to happen was to make things fair with the countries with less teams, since Argentina and specially Brasil are the countries that more income give to Conmebol, there was no other reason, if they didn't want brazilians teams in the finals stages might as well just cut off on of their spots, since there is not an objective reason to determinate the final amount. At best, they are getting for sure a br team in the final (+income) against the chance of not having none.

> I really don't get your point
My point is that you are complaining just for the sake of it ("grondonaboll"), you are not thinking it through.Brasil got 6 teams in ro16, and since 5 of them were 1st seed, at least 5 keys would've definitely have a brazilian team, with the possibility of a 6th one if Paranaense didn't face another brazilian.
You are complaining about them being all in the same key while in best case scenario Brasil would've get 6 different keys out of 8. What do you want? that they settled 3 br keys in one side and other 3 br keys in the other while also having Paranaense too luck it out with an 3/8 possibility to get an argie? you are literally asking for a perfect scenario, to always establish br teams as far between as possible or for rigging it. You are literally asking for another kind of "semifinals rules" but this time in Brazil's favour.
And even if you don't want that perfect scenario, how many different possibilities are there? 3 and 3; 2 and 4; 1 and 5; 0 and 6. Brazzie teams didn't even got the worst outcome, just the one off-center of the side of the outcome you don't like. You would probably complain if it was 2-4 too.

My point being, there is no rigging in favour or against any of Argentina, Brasil or Uruguay in particular. If Conmebol is biased towards something (which they probably are) is to their own wealth. They are biased towards the best income.

>>76557046
Well, imagine that Real Madrid-Atleti make into a CL final. Then, the year after, let's say, Madrid-Barcelona make it to the final. So, somehow UEFA decides that this is not fair with the other countries, and that we should find a way to STOP Spain from do it again. So what they do? They make a rule stating that if there's more then one spanish club in the semifinal they'll have to face each other, no matter what the draw says.

That's literally what happened after 2005 and 2006, when we did two full brazilian finals in a row.

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>>76556945
>The last time I visited a /copalib/ thread was like 2 months ago
Great. Welcome back. You have been ruining these threads with the same bitching and moaning since the tournament began. Five months ago.

>>76557046
that rule is done since this year m8, the key we got now is the final key, it can't change, they announced it in the draw.

>>76557046
nope, if any country set two teams in semifinals, they were obligated to face each other, it happened with Argentina too in Sudamericana.

>>76557092
Then is just a coincidence that fact it happened after the two finals in a row? At that time, only Boca could compete with hue teams.

>>76557127
We're discussing. Try to use your brain by arguing or gtfo m8.

>>76554712


So best Barcelona has to beat Palmeiras only to get fucking Santos? La Puta madre, no les bastaba con el grupo que nos tocó?

>>76557203
>palmeme
they're imploding rn

>>76557203
How good is Botafogo?

>>76557155
If it was to cut off brazilians why then don't just cut off their amount of spots. With that rule, they not only ensured that they will get the income for a br-br series, but also sealing the income for a final featuring a br team; against the possibility of two semifinals with br vs literally who with a possible final without a single br.
Again, this wasn't a rule against brazilians in particular, this affected Argentina twice too.
If they were so obsessed with Brazil, why they just drop the rule just now, not like much was being done to fight against it anyway. Suddenly they like you now?

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>>76557257

Holy shit, /copalib/, I got invited to comment the Palmeiras - Santos match on a local radio, because apparently I understand a lot about football and they wanted a Palmeiras supporter to be there (they tried to find a Santos supporter too but failed, kek). And it was fucking amazing, I aint even mad because Palm Trees got robbed to death. 10/10, would comment again.

>>76554283
they will make it far, I hope, while in B Nacional, I hope.

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>>76557323
why didn't you tell us before irmao? did you at least send greeting "a meus amigos da /copalib/"

Anyway, good for you, radio is the patrician way to appreciate footy.

They're showing a replay of the first Palm Trees x Peñarol game on the hue television, and I forgot how much time-wasting there was on that game, even though I already know the ending I'm mad.

>>76557369
They invited me literally an hour before the game, I even told the guys on the brazilian chan but forgot to tell you. Next time (yes, apparently I did so well that they invited me for when they broadcast the next Palmeiras game) I'll post the link and send a greeting to you anons.

>>76557407
godspeed

>>76554712

kek

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>>76554712
> San Lorenzo might beat Emelec
> we have to probably face Lanus afterwards

just kill me now

>>76557407
Say a meme live, like uma delicia or tsuuuuuu. Or better yet, start baneposting while commenting the game.

>>76556978
Starting this year, not anymore.
I think.

>>76558179
>mina is a big guy

>>76558191
You're correct, sir. After 11 years of Grondrona dinasty, we are now free again to put 2 brazilians in the same final.

It won't happen tho, all of our teams are shitty except Gremio.

>>76557407
That's very cool man, enjoy it

So guys are we supporting Chile for the confederations?

>>76563491
Nah, I hope Osorio wins it. He deserves.

Any chance of Mexico coming back to Libertadores?

>>76564084
We wish m8. We changed the Concachampions format so we could play, but nothings has been said about Libertadores. THey even invented some meme tournament with MLS

>>76564109
The calendar was the only problem. There is no way Conmebol rejects the only relevant transcontinental market they have.

>THey even invented some meme tournament with MLS
The wut?

>>76561611
> all of our teams are shitty except Gremio.
Literally backwards

conmebol is fucking trash

>>76566418
I wish we were OFC

>>76566470
I wish they dropped the one final game and the change in the calendar...

>>76566329
Yeah, they planned some meme tournament between MLS and LigaMX team as a replacement for Libertadores, which is absolutely stupid.

>>76538264
Alcohol alcohol alcohol, hemos venido a emborracharnos el resultado nos da igual!

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Desamparados in Liberta WHEN?

>>76567774
That's actually a really good one.
I mean under una vela standards

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>>76566357
t. riber fan who'll be cucked by the almighty Gremio Foot-Ball Porto Alegrense

>>76554468
>reverse search
>that publicity

My fucking sides

Alright anons, I have a fuckton of cocaine and I'm really high on it right now, but there arent those many games going on right now, so lets talk about something.

>>76567774

I find these Una Vela memes hilarious. Please post more so I can make a folder.

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>>76569340
CERCA DE MI CASA VIVE UNA PIBA

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>>76569340

>>76569220
> VAMOS MANAOS

>>76569263
What teams should we incorporate to Brasileirao an which to Argentinao after the inevitable incorporation uruguayao to said leagues?
for me its Nacional, Danubio, Montevideo Wanderers and Rampla to Argentina. Peñarol, Defensor Sporting, River Plate and Central Espanol to Brasil. All the rest become their own stadual/regional league.

>>76570409
>shitposting una vela memes irl
>cheap alcohol with coca-cola
>glue sniffing

Gee, villero partiies look like a lot of fun

>>76557252

I hope. But how deep is Palmeiras squad? and I speak in the sense of quantity and quality of players they have.

Also, if Palmeiras has an attack driven style of play and goes full retard, we have a chance. Even if Barcelona did alright in the group stages, they can be A LOT better if the other team has high pressure and plays in our field.

Gremio would fuck us up because they rely on counter attacks.

>>76557257
Average

>>76558179
This. Tsu when Palmeiras score.

>>76564109
What tournament do you rate the highest: Copa Libertadores, Liga MX or Concachampions? Which one is the most important to your teams?

G-Guys

>https://www.publimetro.com.mx/mx/deportes/2017/04/28/mexico-volvera-copa-libertadores-concacaf-conmebol-fox-sports.html

>>76570949
For the teams the priority is Liga MX, then Copa Libertadores/Concachampions. Concachampions can be won with sub teams, but the Club World Cup it's kind of important as is mostly a Mexican thing now.
Libertadores was growing on importance, no more sub teams for the travels and so

>>76570952
Oh god pls no

>>76570994
Why not hue-kun, I thought we were friends?

>>76571086
I personally don't mind, but I haven't been around in /copalib/ since the beginning, can someone tell me if the youtube streams are gonna survive? people say that mexico's broadcasters are turbojews.

>>76571086
Going all the way to mexico to play a random murderball club in a syntethic field is not exactly what i want to my club

>>76571116
ez points tho

>>76571116
>Murderball
>Mexico

Dude, we are the softest motherfuckers around. And there is only 1 synthetic field in Liga MX. The same number of all Brazil tho

>>76571116
would you mind it if your team isn't involved?

>>76571143
Tell that to Tijuana

>>76571145
Not really, but the team is literally winning the BR this year so it is guaranteed at copalib next year

>>76571226
Tijuana is full of chicanos and southamericans. They do are the dirtiest motherfuckers of the league. And the field doesn't help.

>>76571143
How are /ourboys/ Tixuana, Santos Lake and Chivas doing? how high are the odds of seeing them next year?

>>76571264
Seems like we would return on 2019, so on two years. Liga MX is either really competitive or all teams are meme. This year Chivas is champion and in two year they are on the last place.
Tijuana got NTR from America but are happy that they now have a Argentina NT player. Santos still a meme, and Chivas and muh mexicanity are on their highest of the decade

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>>76570889
>>76569340

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>godoy who?

>>76571895
> BF

>>76570975
If you had to chose only one, which one would your prefer your team to win?

>>76572175
Libertadores ofcourse. It's the real competitive one. The best tournament we can win, unless we memed our way in the Club World Cup and even then, I think a Libertadores win would give us more prestige

>>76571086
Cmon, let's be serious, you guys are the most nice posters around here, but what do mexican teams has to offer? Truly nothing, not even good memes like O Mais Forte. I personally don't like my team to face a mexican because: 1) is far as fuck 2) we're pretty neutral towards a north american so is boring as hell too.

The same is not valid for any other sudaca team: it's always a good matches against Uruguay, Argentina, Bolivia, Ecuador and so on...

>>76570745
Pretty deep in every position. They have sponsors money (Crefi$$$$$a) so they can literally throw away R$ 39 million for a guy like Borja, who eventually ended up being benched.

>>76570745
To add to that, I wouldn't say that you don't have a chance, far from it. They are still in bad form and I think that it would be a equal fight if you succeed in the first leg.

>>76572525
> 39 millones reais for a less fashionable Jaime Ayovi

>>76572710
And they also pay half of the wages of Barríos, whom they bought before le less fashionable Jaime Ayovi man and then had to loan because he was dogshit for them.

>>76570952
Wunderwar

did you guys get annoyed by the host porteno accent?
> Medeshin
> Guashaquil
> Shunior de Barranquisha

>>76572486
B-But mexican teams are pure meme magic. We have Chivas with muh mexicanity, then Cruz Azul being the Liverpool of the Americas, Tigres and their big bucks french memes and the whole crew.
It really is far I admit, but at least you only have to travel once, we have to travel at least 3 times per team. It's not as hyped because this stuff requires time, we already had meme matches like that Boca vs Chivas or le Influenza scandal.

>>76570952
I like the idea. Is better then have 7 Brazilian + 7 Argentinian clubs on playoffs.

But I have to say, Mexicans clubs don't have any charisma.

>>76572939
We just call the BR names.

Medelin, "Guaiaquil" e Junior de "Barranquilha".

>>76573038
We have charisma, just bad one usually. Sadly, teams here are business and not sport clubs like in SA. Most of them are soulless, but a few traditional of them are good like Chivas, America, Cruz Azul, or Pumas. You have to give us time hue-kun.
Also most Mexican normally go at least until Quarterfinals, Brazil and Argentina too stronk this years

>>76573073
there is always cheeky semifinalist. It's been like 20 years since the last semifinal with four "powerhouses".

Personally I found mexican teams "charismatic". Teams like America, Cruz Azul, Toluca, Chivas, Pumas, Pachuca, now Tigres and TIjuana. Those are all relatively well known (plus with a loaf of fellow sudacas), and I would rather them than Universitario de Cocoliso or Petrolero de Maracaibo

>>76573164
>You now remember when Tigres eliminated Internacional and started their whole downfall

>>76573164
I knew I could count on you Argentina-san. And yeah, they are better in all ways than most of bad meme teams

>>76572710

I kek'd. It can't be that bad

mexican teams only degrade the copa

>>76573073
Mexicans teams are pretty much the same for me. I love your NT, but your teams are all kinda of meeeh. I hope you stay away for a long time, buddy.

>>76538264
GALO GALO GALO GALO GALO GALO GALO GALO

How would reintegrating the mex teams work? Would they add three more spots so that there are 50 teams in total, or take three spots from, say, Peru, Venezuela and Bolivia and give them to the Mexicans?

>>76573073
>"Charismatic Cruz Azul"
Really?

>>76577718
Take spots from other countries

Venezuelan teams are a waste of time

the only bs clause is that the 2nd leg is always in sudaca territory

>>76577718
Fuck the mexicans

>>76577718
>Taking away a sweet meme spot from teams like the strongest
Um nah, besides Peru Venezuela(as shitty as they are >>76578188) and Bolivia already have a really limited amount of spots seems rather unfair to take their spot. Don't know how to feel about it desu.

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>>76577718
>copalib with non sudaca teams

Well then just invite the american teams too, why not?

ARGENTINAO IS BACK

we have literally B Nacional today
>San Martin SJ - Temperley
>Huracan - Union
>Talleres - Gimnasia
>Banfield - Central

still can't comprehend what happened with mengão, so fucking unfair

>>76578720
they deserve to get BTFO in at least 30 more copalibs in order to balance their karma

So yeah, they're back with the idea of doing the Libertadores in the style of the Champions League - including a neutral site single-game final and following the european schedule.
Is CONMEBOL trying to implode itself?

>>76579828
I feel like Libertadores really wants to go for the "All the Americas" tournament and having a qualifing phase with Central America, US and other teams, being basically Champions League but here.
The neutral side single game is absolutely stupid and it's just pure greed because we all know that game will be in the US.

>>76579885
Adding north and central american teams is just as stupid.

I just took a walk around SSC and saw there's a lot of stadium development here in SA: Cerro's stadium, Gran Parque Central, Cali's Monumental, Independiente's Libertadores de América, Estudiantes' stadium, Emelec's Capwell...it's always good to see big teams building, renovating or expanding their own stadiums.

getting real tired of mexicans in this thread.

i don't go around asking our team to be on concacaf shit

>>76580071
Is it? We know that CONMEBOL dreads for the gringos shekels and want to be a Champions League 2.0 with all the meme countries teams.
It is stupid, and yet, we have 48 teams and a one-leg final

>>76580370
cerro is not a big team

>>76579828
>>76579885
Ultimately this sport has been turned into the absolute customer experience and it really shouldn't come as a surprise that both Mexico and the States big market will influence the outcome of a Conmebol tournament. It's also funny how for Copa America and Libertadores they want to fuse us, but when World Cup qualifiers come around nobody wants big Mexico and US to possibly not go to the World Cup, then there is a difference between concacaf and conmebol. >>76580635 so yeah chill out mate, out shekel overlords have plans and honestly if you are over caring about a multi billion industry and giving them more than some of your time too much then you're just being too much of a goy, goy which feeds merchant pockets which push for things like what I just spoke about.

Also, don't be bad>>76581472

>>76553421
based holes

>>76581669
it's true, though

>>76581669
i don't know what is more pathetic, a mexican trying to fit in,or a chicano pretending he is american

>>76581472
It's a big team by proxy. And when is Olimpia going to build a stadium of its own?

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>Sarmiento and Rafaela relegated

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>>76586252
estudiantlel and gilnasia beaten by federal A and federal B teams

>>76585884
>It's a big team by proxy
what does that even mean
currently there are only projects, hopefully Soon™

>>76585047
It really depends on the context. A Mexican trying to fit in... where exactly? Racially a Mexican can fit in almost anywhere in Latin America... culturally far better than a Brazilian could... in Africa, Asia? Absolutely not, he could not fit in there that well. So where is this random Mexican you speak of trying to fit in again?

A chicano thinking he is an American? But he is, he doesn't think, he is. His birth certificate is from an American hospital, his passport says American, he has a social security number which allows him to be in the legal system which entitles him to basic education and a path to a career, he needs not to apply for a lot of tourist visas, in which you as a person who holds a passport from a third world nation has to. I don't seem to follow you, how is he not an American again?

Pretty random thoughts though, I wonder what that had to do with the fact that the previous post was about how double faced and hypocritical concacaf is, to merge on conmebol tournaments when it fits necessary only based on its economic benefit. A rather critical post with some objectivity.

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>Sarmiento and Rafaela don't play
>Get relegated