/indy/

first for fuck TK

>>76510902
Fernando Alonso to IndyCar next season.

#Possi

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>>76511561
Color me doubtful still, he obviously has nothing to prove in F1 and has more than enough money to live off of forever, but I don't see him coming full time.

He obviously enjoyed his time here, most drivers do because the F1 paddock is full cutthroats.

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>>76511677
I watched the Canadian GP last weekend and the only exciting part of it was Patrick Stewart doing the Shoey

absolute shit "racing"

https://twitter.com/IndyCar/status/874348638939598848

SATO-SAMA IS BACK HOME.

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>>76511947
Has to feel good to be on the greatest city in the world as an accomplished motorsport driver.

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>>76511770
>celebrate finishing 3rd by having a celebrity drink out of your shoe

>>76511770
Alonso's charge in a completely outmatched car was solid.
Vettel's charge from the back was enjoyable as well.

>>76512285
>Alonso's charge in a completely outmatched car was solid.
yeah, until the engine blew up, again, lol

>Vettel's charge from the back was enjoyable as well.
>make stupid mistake at start
>easily go back up to the front in your car that overpowers every other car except Mercedes
not impressive.

>>76512196
they have to do stunts like this to distract from the shit racing. which is shit because there is not an even playing field which means the "competition" is a sham.

Has Alonso even been seen since he went into the crowd? Could be walking to Indianapolis and hiding there

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>>76511947

>>76512514
maybe it's like that time Ayrton Senna crashed out of the Monaco GP and just climbed out of his car and left without saying anything and went to his apartment there.

maybe Fernando just caught a taxi to the airport and flew home lol.

>>76512527
happy for sato

>>76511677
If he has the money, Alonso should pull an Ed Carpenter move and just start his own team.

>>76512601
me too
he deserves it

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>i hate Will Power

>>76513296
I don't hate Will Power really, I just don't like Penske

>>76513332
they need to ditch the ugly paint jobs

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whats their endgame

>>76513524
>what are their name's again?
Cheap Ganassi and Roger Pimpske.

>>76513524
make money at all costs, even if it means pressuring people to make decisions that hurt the entire series

>Verizon, Penske'a main sponsor, is also the series title sponsor

really makes you think

Of note, Will Power at 31 Wins has tied Paul Tracy and Dario Franchitti for 9th on the all time wins list.

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Posted late in the last thread.
In case you gentlemen missed it, Chris Beatty is the man who jointly designed the 2018 aero with Dallara and Indycar.
Here's a podcast interview with him.
http://www.slipstreamnetwork.com/2017/06/12/p2p-feature-behind-the-design-of-the-2018-aero-kit-with-chris-beatty/

His design input was mostly used to balance performance and aesthetics.

Road America is fun as fuck to drive

>>76514526
>Izod sponsorship
>Briscoe wins fuck all
>Verizon sponsorship
>Power cucked at the 500 repeatedly

really sprains the brains

>>76516457
I agree, one of my go to tracks on any game.
Got within 4 seconds of 2016 P1 in Project Car's DW12.
Not particularly impressive, but I'm no driver either.

>>76510902
>Sebastian Bourdais will not race in 24h LeMans
>Tony Killnan will instead take out half the field so he can score a top ten finish.

>>76511677
I disagree. At this point he has no chance of winning more F1 championchips. However, he can still be the first person in 50 years to win the triple crown and possibly win the Indycar and WEC championchips for an even great achievement.

>>76513296
I don't hate power, he's one of the best drivers in the world. but I like the underdogs.

>>76516836
How mad would you be if he wins his category?

>>76512527
/ourguy/

>>76517000
I hate TK, so pretty mad. But i'd like too see /indy/ do well

>>76516897
He very well might be done too, he's certainly one of the oldest in the paddock.
(Who is the oldest?)

Alonso would be a welcome addition anywhere he goes.

>>76516031
Very improved, but I still don't fully like the rear end.

Would have preferred if they kept but minimized the rear bumper pods, maybe to just a metal bar or something (to prevent launches), and completely removed the the bodywork in front of the rear tire.

>>76517145
I don't hate TK, he actually one of the nicest guys in the paddock.
He's just old enough that his results don't match the quality of his seat.
This year probably will be his last full season.

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>>76517226
Small rear pods haven't really prevented launches.
As I recall even in 2012 when they were introduced, we had a launch in either St. Pete or Long Beach.
Can't recall right now.
They were ineffective and caused a hefty rear weight bias.

motor/sp/ort died lol

>>76518068
we need it back for 24h LE MANS HYPE

>>76518068
meh, the OP(s) can't even list all the events right.
the fact the OP missed major events like MotoGP and Super Taikyu last week is pretty sad.

>>76518122
This.
Motor/sp/ort has its place for sportscar.
Those of us in /indy/ will post updates on how the Indycar drivers are doing.

>>76518122
>>76519545
when does le mans start happening?

>>76519600
June 17-18

>>76516555
this just means to sign God Zealanders and not Poostralians to race for you

Emergency bump because LeCuckold James just got BTFO by Commiefornia.

>>76519600
This week. Wednesday is the first practice and qualifying sessions

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There's an Indycar test at Road America June 14th.

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Some Indy Lights drivers will also be testing some Indycars at Road America.
https://www.motorsport.com/indycar/news/indy-lights-drivers-to-test-indycars-at-road-america-918001/amp/

3 current Indycar drivers will be present at Le Mans.
Scott Dixon
Tony Kanaan(Sebastian Bourdais' replacement)
Mikhail Aleshin

>>76523180

What's Alotion's role?

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>>76523798
LMP2 racing a BR01 Chassis.
For SMP Racing(Not to be confused with Schmidt Peterson Motorsport who he drives for in Indycar)

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>>76524086
Fug wrong picture.

>>76521930
Cool. Streaming?

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Some incite from a Dale Coyne employee.
https://www.motorsport.com/indycar/news/coyne-race-engineer-laments-string-of-destruction-918007/

Dale Coyne is paying out of pocket for repairs this year.
>>76524488
Possibly, if nothing else Indycar will post an onboard or two.

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>>76524544

>>76525400
I don't follow.

>>76525656
>tfw coyne has bad luck and could go broke from it

>>76526135
Yeah it hurts.
He started the year with 4 tubs.
1 was written off at Indy, another was damaged at Texas.

Ed's tub was structurally fine though Vautier's sustained damage.

What time is the testing today?

>>76528303
Tomorrow m8.
14th.
Also it seems a lot of teams have cancelled their visit to Road America after Texas incidents.

>tfw eddie said he liked the race at his track and it reminded him of figure 8 racing or some shit
i wish indycar didn't race there

Bump
Some stuff happening soon.

Coyne is working hard to have both cars ready for North America.
http://www.racer.com/indycar/item/141407-coyne-team-rallying-to-make-road-america-test

>>76531132
>North America
Jesus, Road America test.
Too sleepy for this.

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Here's what the Le Mans grid looks like out there.

>>76531923
Why are there so many LMP2s

>>76529249
He's a dumb piece of shit. Listen to his episode of dinner with racers and you lose IQ.

>>76531976
because LMP1 is a shit category with shit rules that killed privateers. They're trying to resurrect it for 2018 and several lmp2 teams seem likely to enter lmp1 but I am doubtful it will work as expected. They'll still be uncompetitive to the hundred million dollar factory programs.

>>76516897
Montoya is the closest current racing driver to doing it since he has a monaco and indy win, but I doubt he'll ever go to wec now.

>>76532105
I don't see why LMP1 can't be reserved for factory works teams and LMP2 be the privateer jungle.
Isn't that how it already is?

>>76532544
>Isn't that how it already is?
yeah and it sucks

LMP1 was at its best early when it was all privateers and super competitive. Then audi showed up.

>>76532577
Even if LMP1 was opened up, you said it yourself that privateer teams would be uncompetitive against a factory works team.
LMP1 can remain a proving ground for Manufacturer technologies.

>>76532669
Why should a sport being a shitting ground for big companies

>>76532669
>LMP1 can remain a proving ground for Manufacturer technologies.
lol come on. Even Audi's diesel propaganda was full of shit, which is why their parent company is in so much trouble right now. If they want a proving ground, most manufacturers own several of their own private testing facilities, they can fuck off from my entertainment.

>>76531976
for the same reason Mercedes and Ferrari are the only competitive teams in F1

money

this year LeMans LMP1 is Toyota vs Porsche. there's one privateer team but the best they could hope for is 3rd place.

>>76533313
Red Bull spends just as much if not more

>>76533347
redbull used to be the top spender, but mercedes has outspent them since 2011.

>>76533347
all they can usually get is a 3rd place and a Shoey

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>>76531923

>>76528675
Fug

>>76533752
top kek

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>>76533752
Group C prototypes looked better

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>race cars will never look or sound this cool again

what if Dale Coyne Racing has more crashes and goes out of business lads?

I'm scared ;_;

>>76535266
same thing that happened when KV went out of business: nothing. Indycar doesn't really care about the small teams.

testing for the 2018 aero kit will use current, but not active drivers.
http://autoweek.com/article/indycar/indycars-jay-frye-says-aero-kit-testing-will-use-current-not-active-drivers

Vautier? Karam?

>>76535386
servia, jpm, briscoe

I don't think Vautier and Karam are experienced enough to give good feedback.

>>76535385
the field of cars is already too small we can't lose more

the series even struggles to get the 33 for the 500

>>76535414
Townsend Bell?

>>76533752
I like those walls, i don't know why.
Same with shark fins in f1 cars.

>>76535446
possible

>>76535386
I'm guessing Oriol Servia for the Honda car, Juan Pablo Montoya for the Chevrolet car. (they are gonna test the aero kit with both engines)

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>>76535729
Shark fins are kino

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d4gFYO5uAWg

what a fucking race 24hLM was last year. Holy shit.

>>76538402
I agree LeMans is cool but let's try to keep /indy/ about IndyCar

motor/sp/ort for Lemans shit Anon

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>>76538249
because that one is small

>>76538741
several Indy drivers are competing

>>76538741
TK is in it thogh and we know he will take out half the field in order to win.

I Can't remember who else is racing from indy

>>76538980
Aleshin and Dixon

>>76538980
>TK manages to take out all the categories over his own
>wins
>enters monaco next year
>takes out the entire field
>TK second man in history to finish a triple crowd.

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Another anon mentioned it, here's an article about the test drivers for the 2018 aero kits.
www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/130129/montoya-set-for-test-role-with-2018-indycar

>>76538741
Drivers are competing and we're in an off week, we'll have to follow how they do. Pic related is Aleshin's ride.
Apart from news we have something to watch, because I somehow doubt the Road America test will be streamed.

>>76539108
aleshin is an lmp nice. What team?

>>76539126
SMP Racing

not to be confused with Schmidt-Peterson Motorsports, different team

>>76539032
>>76538980


Also former drivers like Conway and TBell, as well as Tristan Gommendy. Neel Jani and Barrichelo if you count 1 season wonders.

Of note as well, LMP2 cars are going faster in the traps at the end of straights this year, so managing traffic could be interesting.
http://www.racer.com/wec-le-mans/item/141416-ex-audi-engineer-predicts-lmp1-lmp2-battle

>>76539060
sorry to interrupt your fantasy but that shit won't fly in France.

this isn't a 2 hour race, it's 24. with many millions more dollars spent than IndyCar.

that bastard TK better be on his best behavior at Le Mans because if he tries to pull that dirty racing shit in the 24 hours, his career will be over. even if Chip has his back it doesn't matter.

>>76539240
wat

>>76539257
what don't you understand about TK better watch his fuckin ass

he basically crashed Dale Coyne Racing into near bankruptcy. fuck that asshole.

>>76539279
listen bud, if Tracey Krohn has been allowed to fuck his shit up every 2 laps for the last 2 decades, the other TK will be just fine.

threadly reminder that Ganassi and TK are the arch enemies of the #Rossi Posse and enemies of all /indy/ who root for the underdog teams.

at least Penske doesn't crash teams into near bankruptcy.

TK TOOK ALMOST ALL OF /OURGUYS/ OUT OF THE RACE

THIS CANNOT BE FORGIVEN

>Mikhail Aleshin got taken out by TK
>inb4 Mikhail rudely blows by Kanaan and Dixon in their GT1 in his LMP2

fuck em up Mikhail

If you look throughout Tony's history, he's a nice guy and races clean, the man is from Brazil and lived in the fucking garages in Italy when he was 15 while sending money to care for his sister because their father died. The guy knows strife and doesn't take much for granted.
One bad race in his many career starts does not change the aggregate of him being a good driver and well respected in the paddock.

I feel for Coyne, but it's not entirely(the accidents were, but the catalyst for them wasn't him) Tony's fault.
Indycar and Firestone are to blame for what happened at Texas.

>>76540196
it's not Firestone's fault, Eddie Gossange fucked up the resurfacing of the track.

I don't know what they put down, but something was tearing up those tires more than normal.

I don't know how you can say it's Firestone's fault when their tires are flawless at every other track.

whatever shit got dumped on the track at Texas, it was way too abrasive to the tires.

>>76540099
I miss Simona ;_;

>>76539550
gittem

>>76540512
The surface is much smoother, the problem wasn't that the surface was abrasive. The tires barely wore, the blistering was happening due to extreme heat, not an abrasive surface.

Firestone had a test on the new configuration in April, it's their job to bring a tire compound that is compatible with each type of circuit. While they've done an awesome job, it only takes one botched race compound to be dangerous.

With the rain we had this year at TMS, we would not have even had a race Saturday. The old surface was a POS and retained water.

>>76541957
what do you mean extreme heat?

these tires blistered due to the abrasive surface. I've never seen blistering like this on any other track IndyCar runs.

https://www.motorsport.com/indycar/news/injured-bourdais-happy-to-not-be-part-of-bullshit-texas-race-918349/
Bourdais' thoughts.

>>76542138
How do you get a blister? Friction, you get cut or shredded on an abrasive surface.
The track is undeniably smoother and certainly not abrasive.
NASCAR Trucks had no problems like those of the tires Firestone brought.

Most likely scenario I can think of is that the softer sticky compound that's on the outside of the tires was heating and warping off the harder inner rubber, that loose stuff comes off in chunks.

The cars were moving 5 mph faster on a lower banked surface which creates more horizontal force that's a bigger ask for the tires.

Here's the Indy 500 broadcast with Indycar Radio overlayed.
They call it so fucking well, we NEED these guys in the booth, they bring so much excitement and play off each other so well too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FvLQLWpEwzY

>>76542235
truly /ourguy/

Texas started out awesome but even I was freaked out at Tony Killnan's actions.

I hope he's right about the new aero kits or I'm afraid Texas will be off the track list. I think Indy needs some ovals but not if its going to bankrupt the small teams.

>>76542661
Texas will remain until Eddie Gossage says he's not making anything.

The 2018 road kit sheds a LOT of drag while sacrificing about 800lbs of Downforce.
The 2018 oval kit appears to shed some drag as well, but how much Downforce comparatively it will have is anyone's guess, just that more of it will be produced by the undertray. It might be pretty comparable to current DF levels right now, trading the winglets on the rear pods for more undertray DF.

Just have to remember that all DF produced by an undertray is much less draggy and cleaner than DF produces by wings and such.

>>76542661
I used to think the only ovals worth a shit were Indy, Pocono, and Texas.

but now I would be OK with Indy being the only oval.

you haters can talk shit about the road and street courses all you want, but at least they don't bring small teams to the verge of bankruptcy.

if you want all ovals fuck off to TrackForum

>>76535266
He'll take a year off and come back again, he's been doing it too long to stop

>>76542799
Oh please.

Nobody ever suggested all ovals.
7/7/7 is a good balance for the different types of courses, Variety is Indycar's strong suit.
The teams know what they get themselves into and they love the sport, they must because no one makes money on the sport, they either lose some or break even.

>>76542748
The cleaner air should be good for Texas as it will allow a trailing car to get a stronger run to go around and not have to stay on the outside for the whole lap

>>76542867
I'm just sick of people suggesting more ovals.

I must admit, during "the Split" I liked CART better. road courses are the way to go.

we need Laguna Seca and Circuit of the Americas and Circuit Gilles Villenueve.

>>76542963
1, 2 more ovals would be fine.
I'd like Kentucky and another super speedway personally, a resurfaced Fontana would be neat.

Laguna would have to replace Sonoma, it's really an either or situation.
Another race in Canada would be cool, Circuit Gilles Villenueve fits the bill.
Want a Road Course race in Mexico and another race in Brazil.

Cut Detroit to a single race, and add Portland.

>>76542924
Should be the case.
The 2018 aero should be quicker than the original DW12 chassis while providing similar racing.
2012/2013 at Texas were damn good races.

>>76543059
no more ovals!!!
Indy is the only one that matters after all.
would Japan care if Takuma Sato won Iowa? no!

road coursea are what get the international attention the series desperately needs.

>>76543127
Give it a rest m8.
You'll figure it out eventually, I don't want to be a F1 lite.

>>76543149
no you rest.
I don't want to be NASCAR with open wheel cars.

this "competition caution" shit at Texas made me want to vomit.

>>76543180
We're literally not talking about that extreme, are you a child?
I want CART's schedule format back, a balanced ~20 race schedule is ideal. Packed with equal amounts of Road/Street/Ovals.
I don't want something that resembles Champ Car's schedule.

I don't really care about those cautions because they won't happen again.

>>76542235
This is my favourite headline ever.

>>76542799
IndyCar should be on flat 1 miles and relatively flat 2-2.5 mile tracks, not small short tracks, intermediates, or high banked anything, but the IRL is fucking retarded so they can't be arsed to not fuck up events like New Hampshire, Milwaukee and Fontana but go back to an overbanked Phoenix to run empty schedule shows featuring no lifting races that make Monaco look like the most exciting race on Earth and suck Gossage's tiny Texas dick. Gateway is in theory a good track for IndyCars but in reality everything about that track but the length and banking angle was a mistake and that event has always been a disaster.

You can tell what a bunch of casual worthless shits the Indiana region fans that make up the "core fanbase" because they go to the 500 are because they think crap like Saturday is the greatest thing ever while being totally unaware amazing non-bullshit races like this happened because if they stayed up and watched they might have missed part of a handegg game Sunday morning.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gyvDfMc7zlU

>>76543059
I wonder if there will be another race in Japan with all the attention INDYCAR is getting from Japan after Sato's victory.

Is it worth it for the WEC subscription? I think so right? I want INDY and F1 to follow suit. I don't have cable.

>>76543127
False, INDY needs some ovals as they require different skills and test the drivers in different ways. Its fun to watch Pagenaud dominate road but fail on ovals.

However, if they can't do it safely they have to stop.

I'd like to see them add an endurance race too but that's probably not realistic.

>>76543059
I'd like to see COTA and more international races. Indy doesn't need to be stuck in NA. Why not Japan or even something crazy like N'ring.

>>76547383
South America would be good for building a fanbase IMO

>>76512159
God, i always wanted play some soccer/Football on this field since i saw this on Tokyo Drift

>>76516555
>Reminder that Power got Chapionship using Verizon car

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The 18 and 19 cars are rebuilt and on track today at Road America.

TBA(To Be Announced) is firmly in the cockpit of the 18. We're not sure who is in there frankly, but there is a driver.
Intuition would suggest Gutierrez, but who knows at this point.

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>>76548082
Dale Coyne Racing Twitter has informed us that the driver in the number 18 is Joe Tanto.

Kek.

http://motorsports.nbcsports.com/2017/06/14/road-america-test-underway-with-rebuilt-cars-indy-lights-quartet/amp/

6 Cars are testing at Road America today, 4 Indy Lights drivers are testing as well.
There was going to be 17~ cars testing, but Saturday's carnage put a stopper on a lot of owners plans.
Dale Coyne is present, not sure who the driver of the 18 is.

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/penske/

>“I remember when we ran the 240 mph laps at California Speedway people were saying, ‘You’re crazy to drive at that speed!’ But we had a car that was designed to run at those speeds that was well balanced with small wings and we didn’t hurt people,” Gugelmin said.

>“Yes, maybe it wasn’t as close as some people would like to see. But we still had some very good racing and I think people may have forgotten a little bit about what racing is all about. It has gone completely the other way and now in every series all they talk about is passing. Even Formula 1 got into that, and in America it’s even worse. They want to see that last-lap dash to the line, but when you get highly competitive people that close together in open-wheel cars, you’re going to run into trouble.

>“You can have good stewards who do a good job of controlling the drivers and making sure they respect each other, but when the old ‘red mist’ drops, you’re going to have problems. Like an airplane accident, a racing crash usually doesn’t happen unless there are a number of factors involved. Somebody takes their air, they drop a wheel on the grass, and there they go. The cars are too much on the edge.

>“I hope some of the drivers have the courage to step up and say this is unacceptable.”

>>76550152
Big Mo knows what he's talking about.
The cars today are significantly safer than back in the 90's and early 2000's.
I shutter to think of what some accidents we've seen since 2012 would have looked like in a car from CART.

I hope the drivers and teams explain to Indycar that this type of racing in a pack can't happen again, not just for safety, but for costs and we already know there are better alternatives.

Another fundamental question:
Is it racing if the cars are manufactured through aero and tire revelations to be close by removing the driver's skill out of the equation?

Some people may not have liked Josef Newgarden's absolutely dominant drive at Iowa last year, but I thought it was fucking awesome.

>>76550152
>The cars are too much on the edge.
I agree with everything he said but this. The problem with the last 2 texas races is that the cars are too far from the edge (too much downforce) and they can full throttle it all around the track with ease. This leads to the 4 rows deep of 2 wide nonsense.

>>76550318
Yep.
There's only two alternatives.
Raise HP or lower DF.
It probably doesn't even have to be a huge amount, a couple hundred lbs goes a long way.

>>76550152
Editor's note though, apparently Zanardi getting knocked the fuck out and being replaced by Luyendyk who also got knocked the fuck out is not hurting people.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wYdk5kqfwsg

People always pull the "oh who can tell the difference between 210 and 220" line but those guys rocketing around at 230-235 at the absolute limits of power and aerodynamics was so completely and utterly different. Even when they get them spread out these days it's by making the cars super loose rather than set up to go the fastest.

>>76550318
His point is that even when that's the case things can actually go wrong extremely fast. Things are never really under control at that speed but people pretend the crashes that happened are the same as getting cut off by someone texting on the freeway.

>>76550412
Everything that happens at a pack race happens well below the threshold of the fastest human reaction times.
It's not possible to react to an incident and drivers are already superhuman when it comes to that.

I wonder if the high line would have opened up if Vautier weren't in the field, he put down the rubber to make it possible almost single-handedly. At the beginning of the race it looked like it was closer to Indy where they would jockey for position on the straights but have to resolve the situation going into the turn, which is safe and exciting and percise in a way that's not like pack racing. The problem is that trailing cars don't get a big enough run to make those situations resolve.

>>76547361
the 500 is almost endurance race length

>>76545069
Honda would have to spend a ton of money to fix the oval at Twin Ring Motegi that got damaged by the earthquake. or run the undamaged road course.

>instead of two races in Detoilet let's have two races at Twin Ring Motegi, one on the oval one on the road course

>>76550796
Once upon a time it was endurance race length.
It took upwards of 6 hours to complete the Indy 500.

>>76550498
Straights at Texas are too short and too small a percentage of the lap for it to ever viably work that way. You'll just get people trying to force it down the inside in 3.

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>>76551328
The front straight is really long and enough for a draft*, but the grass needs to go, it's too dangerous to have that there.

*The 2018 kit which produces much less topside DF and drag should be able to pull up on another car pretty well in theory. The air behind the car should be less disturbed as well.

http://motorsports.nbcsports.com/2017/06/14/toyota-unsurprisingly-on-provisional-pole-at-le-mans/amp/

Run down of how Indycar drivers are doing at Le Mans

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Not that we didn't have a good idea of who was in the #18 DCR car, Indycar posted this.

Not sure why Dale wants to keep it under wraps, but Esteban deleted the tweet and I'm not sure what it said.

>>76552472
>Not sure why Dale wants to keep it under wraps,
ashamed of having the shittiest driver in world driving for is team.

IndyCar should do more races next to water.

SPM lost an engine out of Hinchcliffe's car today during testing at Road America.
Probably better it happens then rather than during the race.

>>76552653
Esteban is not very popular in Mexico as I understand it then?

https://www.motorsport.com/indycar/news/dixon-says-more-testing-at-texas-could-have-helped-prevent-pack-race-918644/amp/
Dixon's point of view for what could have been done.

http://www.slipstreamnetwork.com/2017/06/14/shank-theres-a-lot-of-talks-regarding-indycar-program/

Lots of talk, hopefully they take the plunge. Indy is this man's passion.

>>76555956
Perez is as popular as a literal who here, imagine fucking Guti.

Don't believe that bullshit of "EVERYBODY IS A PEREZ FAN GUISE! THEY LOVE HIM HERE OMG LOOK AT THIS FUCKING ADS", nobody gives a fuck, literally.

>>76556729
Gotcha, who was the last popular Mexican driver then?

>>76556859
Adrian Fernandez during the very early 2000s.
2000-2003, remember that time there were 2 CART races in Mexico? good shit.

>>76557168
I had a feeling it was Adrian.

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One last bump this evening with the car and driver that won the 1995 CART championship.
Jaques Villenueve in a Reynard chassis.

>>76542519
Goddamn. Even though I knew what was going to happen I still had goosebumps listening to that call.

I feel bad for Scott Goodyear, dude got screwed by the Speedway gods, but listening to the radio broadcast makes the 500 Mile Race a totally different experience.

Bump because page 9.

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Marshall Pruett and Robin Miller's weekly Indycar news podcast.
http://www.racer.com/indycar/item/141446-podcast-the-week-in-indycar-news-june-15


Will Power is also stealing Simon's ride.

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>>76557168
Fernandez seemed very popular, though it's easier to be popular when there are multiple series races per year and because of equipment parity a driver has a chance to be a winner and not just a rolling chicane.

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James Hinchcliffe is activating his more primal Leaf genes rather than his nu-male leaf ones.

>>76563683
>Rossi attempts a pose
>all it is is staring ahead with his mouth slightly more open than normal

lol people actually like this guy

>>76563745
His overwhelming lack of personality is endearing, he's like an anime character

>>76563761
>Rossi lives life like an anime

>>76563745

He might be retarded, but he's our retard.

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>>76554126
IndyCar should have more races in water.

>>76564295
You now remember that this train wreck actually happened.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_98CARJdos

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>>76564295
IndyCar and water don't always mix very well.

>>76564480
Oh god... that reminds me of this part: https://youtu.be/n_98CARJdos?t=2100

I actually felt really bad after that race because it looked like a potentially interesting track, but the promoters lost a ton of money and it didn't come back...

In fact, that seems to happen to a lot of IndyCar race promoters...

>>76564546
>corner worker/random guy goes out and pushes Chaves

>>76564480
>this was 2 years ago
damn, I remember watching live and be kinda worried about an alligator crossing the track or someone going into the swamp and getting eaten.

Now thats silly but come on, tell me if didn't cross your head.

>>76564831
That didn't really cross my mind.
In the time leading up to the race there was a lot of work that needed to be done to NOLA Motorsports Park to get it prepped and barely anything had been done.
It wasn't until like 3 months before the race that we were even sure it was going to happen.
For reference NOLA is a club circuit, they have some track days, but nothing professional, and there was quite a to do list.
The one thing that didn't get done was drainage and there were a bunch of lawsuits flying around after the race from all sides.
Not a good situation.

>>76564496
was that when Arie was driving the pacecar? kek

>>76565328
I think it was also the race where Coletti demolished the legs of his crew on two separate pit stops

>>76565426
Wrong Italian, that was Dracone.
A moving Chicane on the level of Milka.

>>76563683
I'm pretty sure Hinch Alexander and Connor are roommates

>>76564546
Promoters were fraudster shitheads

>>76563745
he's an introvert and I like that because I can relate to it

>>76564273
just because he's not a goof like Hinch or Helio doesn't mean he's retarded

>>76565649
Conor couch surfs with whoever will put him up.
He was living in Hinchcliffe's house, he now lives in Alexander's house.

He had live in James' house for a year and a half, actually replaced the mattress he had slept on.

>>76563683
>you will never go axe throwing with your fellow IndyCar driver bros

>>76565743
ah

I think it's cool that they are bros even though they compete on the race track

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>>76565800
I don't know if Conor is competing with anyone when he's on track.

>>76565876
kek

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>>76565876
In seriousness, Conor is probably competing with Foyt """engineering."""
Maybes next year will improve his fortunes provided he still has a ride.

>>76565743
how do you know this
are you stalking them

>>76565941
interviews

>>76566005
riiight :^)

>>76566050
they even talked about it during the indy 500 winner banquet. stop being so casual

>>76566005
>>76565941
Yep, interviews.
I don't have the money or time to stalk someone.
I'd have a beer with Conor though, combination of him being Irish and his current results, he probably drinks a bit.
I know his(not actually his) RV had a bunch of beer in the fridge(Miller Lite, bleh), that was most of what was in there.
>How do you know this stalker?
Interviews :^)

>>76566061
I'm just fucking with you I know

>>76566269
I am autistic

I heard Hinch has a pool in an interview
think he has sweet pool partys?

https://www.motorsport.com/indycar/news/injured-bourdais-happy-to-not-be-part-of-bullshit-texas-race-918349/?v=2&s=1&q=Bourdais

Bourdais telling it like it is about Texas

>>76566554
>"oh yeah, I know I'll be seen as the dick for saying all this, but I'll deal with that. that's fine."

BASED

>>76566554
Posted earlier.
I imagine most drivers agree apart from Special Ed.
Lots of unnecessary risk for a non-viable form of racing in open wheel cars.
Packing them up closely through aero and tires on an oval is a recipe for disaster.
Next year will be better.

>>76566635
didn't ECR get some cars smashed up too from the fiasco?

I know Ed DNF but did Hildebrand finish? can't remember all the cars that DNF because there were so many.

>>76566734
They were slightly damaged and the team managed to get both cars back out before the end of the race.

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In other stalker news, apparently Veach and Chaves are roomates and get treated like children

>>76567389
and btw yes Gabby's girlfriend is named Gabby

>>76567389
top kek

>>76567389
is it common for IndyCar drivers to be roomates? at least the young guns who don't have a lot of money yet?

>>76567389

WHAT HAVE I BECOME

SHABBY GABBY BTFO.

>>76567389
I hope Gabby and Zach get full time rides next year

>>76566554
He is just butthurt(literally) he couldn't join all that fun. More indycar races in ovals should be fun shit like that instead of snoozefests.

>>76568393
Not generally.
Can't think of any notable examples outside Conor.
>>76568793
It's a valid criticism, pack racing is an open wheel taboo and should be.
He's not saying "ban ovals" or get rid of Texas, just change the aero and tire configurations so they're not racing flat out all the way around in a pack.
I agree with you, we could use another Super speedway and one other oval.

>>76569165
>Can't think of any notable examples outside Conor.
Kanaan and Castroneves roomed together when they were in Indy Lights. Karam and Hawksworth are roommates now, but aren't in the series.

>>76569412
Karam and Hawksworth are both in IMSA

>>76569748
the purpose of this post is?

>>76569822
to remind everyone how irrelevant imsa is.

>>76510902
Will Power is /ourguy/
Rossi Posse is just a meme
everybody will realize this as he leads every lap at Road America

>>76570400
Does anyone else like Max Chilton?

He's a pretty cool guy, and his older brother used to show up in the weird racing segments on Top Gear years ago.

>>76569822
a reason why they would be roommates?
damn.

>>76570487
>Does anyone else like Max Chilton?
no

>>76570487
No not really, the dude had a "Conor Daly at Foyt" tier season last year in a Ganassi ride.
He had some F1 experience apparently, but I didn't see it.

>>76567389
'Gabby' is perhaps the gayest birthname I've ever heard

>>76571091
use you're brian, you can do it

>>76571091
pretty sure it's short for Gabriel

>>76571208
>pretty sure it's short for Gabriel
that would be Gabe
"Gabby" is a given 1st name arising out of pure faggotry

>>76571237
Gabby is /ourguy/ don't you be talkin shit.
wait til 2018 when he and Harding Racing are full time Mr. Chaves will show you motherfuckers

I did the same thing when I was in high school on a trip to Europe.

Our slavic bus driver was named Gabriel, but he pronounced it Gab-ree-el instead of Gabe-ree-el. I laughed in his face, but he just looked confused.

>>76571258
t. some spic with the last name Chavez

>>76571279
you sound like a dick to be honest family

>>76571237
err in spanish speaking countries, Gabby or Gabi is the short for Gabriel or Gabriela my dude.

>>76571286
nah

>>76571294
spics can't into a complex and nuanced language
inb4 muh genders

>>76571237
you're a bit stupid. it's a nickname like Joe or Bob

>>76571303
You are still wrong on the Gabby/Gabriel thing tho.

>>76571290
Yeah, I was a dick in high school...
I was also occasionally a communist, 9/11 truther, and Nazi sympathizer depending on what my friends was cool that day.

That was also 12 years ago.

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>>76571294
also Gabbu

>>76571331
and here you are now on a Tibetan mycology forum making fun of a race car driver for his name.

>>76571324
ummm, because in English it's as follows:

FEMALE:
Gabriella / Gabby

MALE:
Gabriel / Gabe

Is this hard?
is English a second language to you?

>>76571378
kys

>>76571364
Huh? I was telling >>76571091 that I made the same mistake once... back when I was in high school.

>>76571378
hey guess what? Chaves is from Bogota. Columbia. where they speak SPANISH. and yet he probably also speaks better English than you.

>>76571391
naw, I'm trolling
quite proud right now

>>76571406
>I was only pretending to be r-retarded o-okay guys?!

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>>76571402
>>76571415

>>76571425
get a load of this guy

>>76571425
it isn't good 'trolling" when everyone is laughing at you

>>76571446
>>76571447
We're laughing at each other
We're all laughing
That's the whole point of this site

Did my part to keep /indy/ bumped.
I wish they were running at Michigan tomorrow night
Keep the thread bumped night shift

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>>76571477

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How much would it cost to rehabilitate Nazareth?

Maybe IndyCar could go back there...

>>76571477
why would they race on a friday

anon I'm really concerned for your mental safety

>>76571531
Maybe because there would be no competing event?
Maybe because it would make Michigan a triple header race weekend?
Maybe that would result in more eyeballs?
Maybe American open wheel racing going back to Michigan would be a good thing overall?

>>76571521
RICO lawsuit against Bruton Smith with all punitive damages earmarked towards North Wilkesboro, Nazareth, and the Milwaukee Mile

>>76571521
it's dead. no tears only dreams now

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>>76521930

>That classic Champ Car look


HNNGGGG

>>76571600
champ>irl>>indy

>>76571724
CART>>Indycar>Champ Car>IRL
The IRL was not interesting.
Talent was still split between Champ Car and Indy Racing League. In fact the IRL had no notable international talent until 2000 when CART drivers were allowed into the field.
Montoya smoked the field that year.
It wasn't until 2005 that the IRL introduced its first road course.

Even as far as car attractiveness I would rate it about the same, just switch Champ Car and Indycar.

>>76571863
>when CART drivers were allowed into the field
they were never not allowed

>>76571863
IRL 2002 to 2006 was extremely fun to watch desu.

>>76571951
It was an implied picket line and not all CART teams would have the chance to make the field due to the 25/8 rule which meant that all IRL teams were guaranteed to be in the 500.

>>76571600
I had that same Lego set as a kid

I miss it

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>>76571863
The peak years of CART were probably the best high-level open wheel racing anywhere, ever.

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>>76573919
The peak years were 88-95.
The only kind of development that continued unabated after 96 was engine development.
We also no longer had F1 WDC coming across the pond to challenge CART because despite the drivers being just as good as before for a couple years, CART no longer had the Indy 500 as the biggest allure.

Bump the thread you nigs.

>Page 10

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CART GOAT series

IRL a shit

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Can IndyCar return to Laguna Seca some day?

Are the cars quiet enough now?

>>76580907
>race track
>expect the cars to be quiet

Californian logic

>>76580934
It's more a NIMBY thing. A big issue in European racing as well and the reason why there are so few races at certain venues (Brands Hatch, Monza, to name a few).

>>76580953
>live next to a race track
>waahhh a car made a loud noise near me, how could this happen

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>>76580876

>>76580934
>>76580953
>>76580995
Even worse, many homes near race tracks were built long *after* the tracks - thinking they could get a good deal on the land, then sue the race tracks out of existence.

Tracks that were once in the middle of nowhere are now surrounded by housing developments, filled with people who believe they shouldn't be required to deal with the consequences of their actions.

>>76581842
how
did he hit the curb of a chicane or something

JR is /ourguy/
http://www.indycar.com/News/2017/06/06-16-Primal-Numbers

>>76583527
I like Hildebrand too, because he's one of the few drivers who I think might be more intelligent than me. It's too bad he's just not that great of a driver...

https://twitter.com/IndyCar/status/875796457210748930

>>76582528
Yes, that's Surfer's Paradise m8

>>76582528
vtec yo

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Who /museum/ here?

>>76586182
I feel like they could make it better. The banners hanging from the ceiling like in the Foyt exhibit is what they should do for the whole thing. A litle more turnover would be nice too, but I still go every year on the day before the race.

>>76580995

It's almost like cars are loud.........woah.

Le Mans thread

>>76591664

>>76591664

>>76591664

>>76591713
thanks lad

Has Alotion raced yet?

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bump

>>76586182
How was it?

Man imagine being an Indycar driver and not even being called to drive a LMP2 car, just a GT-Pro car.

>>76607443
GTE pro is more prestigious than lmp2 though

Good job keeping the thread alive. I was banned for reasons. Will have more to post when I get home, related to aero comparisons in the last 3 years.
>>76607443
For a factory team?
I'd do it in a heart beat.
The Ford program pays better than every single privateer LMP2 program guaranteed.

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2015 aero kits as they were originally unveiled compared to the 2018 aero we'll see next year.

Honda went full Gillette(lots of DF,lots of drags), while Chevrolet's approach was about min/max'ing the drag:DF ratio.
As they were in those renders, the cars produced nearly 8000lbs of Downforce in testing, that number was just insane. It wasn't what they ran with though which probably sat at a more conservative 6500-7000lbs.
The 2016 aero kits which are what we see on track this year are quite a bit different than originally introduced.

bump

Future Indycar champion Pipo Derani finished 2nd in GTE

20% of in the Penske shop for Father's day, you are going to support /indy/'s team right?

>>76625068
They were only /our guys/ when they were the only team that could beat Dixon in 2008-2010

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*hits a home run*

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https://www.motorsport.com/indycar/news/indycar-to-test-new-driver-head-protection-on-2018-car-919458/
Indycar will be testing a few solutions, they still like the aeroscreen design, the challenge is to ensure it's rigid and reinforced enough, because unlike a cockpit canopy it can't mitigate as much energy before shattering.
It also brings the question of how large of an object and what speeds will they have tested it against. The upper rim has to be very sturdy.

Some of Red Bull's testing. F1 has also done some tests of their own.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=quOc-eNYH6g
Indycar is working with PPG Aerospace, who make the canopy for F16 Fighter Jets, to come up with a feasible solution.

Might even reduce drag a bit.

>>76629478
Pretty good size arms for a driver.
>>76629378
*and Franchitti in 2011