REALLY makes you think

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holland? more like LOLLAND

if you just want to see more european teams there's the euros

wake up
grab your brush a put a little makeup

>>76508820
Check out Portugal's group

will armenia make it to the world cup

>>76508820
>uzbekistan will make it to the world cup and we wont

jesus

>>76508868
no they won't

Don't like it? Then next time don't let 3 of our 4 entires reach the round of 16 you whiny faggots.

>>76508858
A few days ago I would answer that it is very much possible

>>76508854
HIDE THE SCARS TO FADE AWAY THE SHAKEUP

netherlands? more like NEVERLANDS

>>76508899

:(

Is Armenia even a country?

>>76508895
It doesn't work that way burger, you need to look at the weakest team: Honduras, that got 0 points, therefore you need to reduce the amount of qualifying teams from the CONCACAF since the 4th team you bring is always fodder.
If New Zealand reach the ro16 someday you'll probably advocate for more OFC spots

>>76508820
>iran
based queiroz

>>76508932

Yes it is you fat fuck. What they did against Azerbaijan was more impressive than the US has been able to do against anyone in the past 50 years.

>>76508857
you're right, it's even worse. Portugal's group has 2 top 10 ranked teams and 3 Euro R16ers

>>76508929
We've got the Euro 2020 trip in our pockets though, all we have to do is win Division 4. That's pretty much a nobrainer, unless some other team decides to feed hard, ruin their ranking and end up in div 4 too (I'm looking at you, Magyarorszag)

>UEFA for some reason still gets 13+ spots in world cup

even Concacrap has more talent lol

>>76508952
wow btfo

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>>76508955

>>76508895
didnt read lmao

>>76508820
SWEDEN YES

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>>76508854
This reminds me of this.

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>>76508842
>>76508921

>>76508955
our group is unbelievably shit, we might as well just do a play-off between Portugal and Switzerland

>>76508842
Felt a bit sad when I saw their joy and relief after beating mighty Luxembourg

>>76509044
It's a trap group for Switzerland

>win 9 matches
>yeah feeling comfortable lads (*put sun glasses on*)
>we don't have to change anything
>last match in Portugal
>lose
>play-off against a better team
>get BTFO

>>76509097
You only need a draw against us and that's not too hard.

Even if you go to play-offs, your ranking will put you on the strong teams pot.

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Also, extremely related, FIFA World Cup 2026

>AFC: 8.5 slots
>CAF: 9.5 slots
>CONCACAF: 6.5 slots
>CONMEBOL: 6.5 slots
>OFC: 1.5 slot
>UEFA: 16 slots

>host spot deducted from the continent
>playoffs would be 6 teams competing for 2 places, 5 from every continent + 1 one from the host continent
>no comments on what would happen if a European team is a host or when there are combined hosts
http://www.fifa.com/about-fifa/news/y=2017/m=5/news=fifa-council-prepares-congress-takes-key-decisions-for-the-future-of-t-2883353.html

>>76508820
why did you lose vs montenegro?

i wanted to see based mickey the aryan at a world cup, but you guys (probably) ruined his chance for that

>>76509250
>tfw both New Zealand and Tahiti qualify for the 2026 World Cup to waste those two slots in addition to Canada and whoever qualifys from CONCACAF aside from Costa Rica

>>76509190
>Even if you go to play-offs, your ranking will put you on the strong teams pot.

We have a manager and several players who are experienced in choking. Feeling very uncertain about this.

>>76509280
He did nothing the entire game, one shot at goal and the rest of the game he was invisible on the field, it's as if he was bribed (or losing on purpose to get that sweet Nations league division 4 ticket)

>>76509311
This might be a shocker to you, but Canada alongside you and Mexico are probably going to be the hosts

>>76509311
>yfw the Vanuatu U20 team that came close to drawing with Mexico and Germany builds upon those results and reaches the final before losing to Venezuela again

>>76509336
Which is why Canada is going to waste the slot.

>>76508946
>It doesn't work that way burger, you need to look at the weakest team: Honduras, that got 0 points, therefore you need to reduce the amount of qualifying teams from the CONCACAF since the 4th team you bring is always fodder.

Using this logic CONCACAF should have never gotten a 3rd spot in the first place despite the fact that the US and Mexico regularly hold their own in the WC, which would have meant Mexico wouldn't have made it in last year because Costa Rica suddenly got gud.

That 4th spot is insurance for the US, Mexico, and Costa Rica that they earned by making it to the Ro16 in case they have a stumble in qualifying like Mexico did last year.

>>76508820
>China has less points that a literally not country as Syria.

>>76508899
Is it true Vardan Minasyan was forced to resign by FIFA because Armenia was doing too good and Bernard Challandes was planted by FIFA to make Armenia lose matches?

>>76510264
>too good
nice joke

>>76509000
Nice post number.

>>76508820
It makes me think how can some people still be so stupid that they don't understand why the World Cup wants to have teams from all around the world instead of just Europe.

why are there even other squads except Spain in our group

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>>76510219
>literally not country as Syria
what did you just say about syria you nigglet

>>76510616
to choke and drop points, even though neither of Spain or Italy will

>>76508820
There's something to be said about that but you cherry picked the best group to prove your point.

>>76508955
Are the euro qualifier groups just randomly drawn? Just looking at the groups it's seems like the are to some extent but not entirely.

>>76509030
Ze hebben het niet mis....

>>76510714
they are arranged by coefficients, just like CL

>>76508820
kek, whites BTFO (yet again)

>>76508820
What it makes me think is that Netherlands is a squad of heartless faggots that rightfully don't deserve to qualify

>>76508820
The ideal Russia 2018 would be

>Russia
>13.5 teams from UEFA
> 7 from CONMEBOL
>5 from CAF
>3 from CONCACAF
>3 from AFC
>0.5 from OFC

You cannot prove me wrong

>>76511495
>7 from CONMEBOL
nope

ideal WC would be 20 team from UEFA, 5 from Africa, 5 from South America and let the other continents fight for 2 spots

>>76510856
France is the least white team out of all on the pic

>>76511585
>It's another Argentinian sucks yuro dick in the hopes they'll accept him episode

Please stop, these episodes just make me sad

>>76511690
>it's an American is buttmad because he's casually reminded that USA sucks at the #1 sport in the world and holds no relevance whatsoever

>>76511566
Ecuador or Paraguay are better than teams like Slovenia or Greece

>>76511566
UEFA: 17.5+Hosts
CONMEBOL: 7
AFC: 3
CONCACAF: 2.5
CAF: 0.5 (the most overrated garbage, Congo Schmongo, Senegal, Nigeria, they are all cancer, they always fail and now they are weaker than ever)
OFC: 0.5

>>76511777
trips of truth

>>76511758
with those quotas Peru and Paraguay would be battling for one spot while teams like Sweden, Poland or the balkans would be struggling

>>76511777
>AFC: 3
>CONCACAF: 2.5
>CAF: 0.5
I would say 2 to each one, CAF is not that good and CONCACAF is pure garbage

>>76511812
Mexico and Costa Rica are good, US of A deserves a playoff
Iran is suddenly good and Japan and Korea are always decent
Africa has nothing of value though, look at the rosters of all teams that are on top of their group

>>76511861
yet CAF teams end up having half decent results at wc

>>76511797
>teams like Sweden, Poland or the balkans would be struggling
Good, they are shit anyways. It's not about how you struggle to get to the WC, it's about getting the best teams. Also, why are we so sure that Peru is worse than those European teams? Haven't you see them in Copas America, they always have decent results.

>>76511777
How is Asia better than Africa?

>>76511797
This is more of a problem with the complexity of the tournament system if you have lots of teams
In CONMEBOL, OFC and CONCACAF the best teams always qualify
In UEFA shit teams get through leaving good teams behind, you can't have the 13 strongest UEFA sides qualify, but you can't steal spots from other confederations to get even more lolrandom Estonias through while Sweden, Poland e.t.c. suffer.

>>76511908
That was Ivory Coast and Ghana back when they had world class players
Now Africa has none
>>76511923
Name me one African team at the level of Japan, Iran or Korea.
The best you can do is Australia/Uzbekistan/Saudi tier

I'd take a fiesty Panama squad that actually wants to be there to go further in the WC than an underachieving mid-tier Yuro team filled with heartless players that only care about club play

Every year people bitch about CONCACAF having too many spots, and every year they always do better than than people predict

>>76511495
>7 from Conmebol
We have literally 10 teams. If you're going to send that many just send the whole South America and don't bother with qualifiers.

>>76511995
>send Bolivia and Venezuela
"no"
>>76511967
>I'd take these losers that can't find a good club because they don't play in good club like these good players that play in good clubs

>>76511944
Let's see last WC games between Asia and Africa
Ivory Coast 2-1 Japan
Iran 0-0 Nigeria
South Korea 2-4 Algeria

If Japan looks good to you is merely subjective, you can't really prove me that they are as good as the best teams from Africa

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>>76511861
>look at the rosters of all teams that are on top of their group

Yeah because England with its perpetual top talent squads are a great example that we should look at rosters to predict WC success lmao

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>>76512056
>Club success translates to international success

>>76512155
>>76512125
>false equivalence
>strawman
Explain to me how Panama and CAF teams are good
What makes you think that they're good?
>>76512074
That was in 2014

>>76511923
>Good, they are shit anyways
but they are better than Paraguay, Ecuador or USA, they are easily on the level of your NT
>>76511927
shit uefa teams never qualiffy
the worst I can think in the recent times is Bosnia and they played half decently in qualis

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>>76512199
Here's a better question, explain how this happened?

>>76512256
playing in south america/outside of europe is a big factor
england is a meme and a bunch of chokers
Italy was through their worst generation ever
Costa Rica was just nice around that time

>>76512246
>shit uefa teams never qualiffy

England qualifies every year m8

>>76511758
nice joke

>>76512317
well, they are the only shit team to get in

>>76512256
>Fortaleza
>Recife
>Manaus
>Natal
Gee, i wonder how.
Also this >>76512306 .

>>76511495
Top 32 teams by FIFA ranking

AFC: 1
CAF: 3
CONCACAF: 3
CONMEBOL: 7
OFC: 0
UEFA: 18

>>76512306
>Costa Rica was just nice around that time

And yet the consensus was that they were gonna be the punching bag of that group and that the US had no chance to advance in a group with Portugal and Germany.

That's why we base spots on the actual results instead of perceived roster talent.

>>76512404
yeah, but you're still forgetting that it was played in brazil
also only plastics rated England and THAT Italy in 2014

>>76512404
Actually most people gave USA the best chances for leaving groups, which was slightly better than 0. Most people were writing off Mexico for their awful qualifiers and Costa Rica for never doing much.

>>76512461
Yeah i bet your ass you rated both those teams and Uruguay easily over Costa Rica so shut the fuck up there.

>qatar is actually going to host the tournament next time while not ever having been close to qualifying for the tournament before

>>76512509
if they still exist by then

>>76512461
If the weather and environment is stopping your team from succeeding, your team is shit

Brazil got 7-1'd in their own country by Germany, so a lot of help it did them.

>>76512489
That's just because the US looked like the best team in CONCACAF at the time, but nobody was realistically putting us over Germany and Portugal. The most credit we were being given is that it was considered a death group.

>>76512525
http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2017/06/fifa-president-qatar-world-cup-threat-170611194505960.html

>>76508952
>armenia and azerbijan
even if those were real, relevant countries with a GDP that matches the state of Ohio or Florida, give me a call when they make the last 8 at a world cup (2002), or hell, even make the RO16 (which the US does regularly)

>>76512509
As if that's even the #1 reason why they shouldn't host it

>Moving the WC to accommodate your shitty unliveable climate
>Working literal slaves to death to build the stadiums

Please just nuke Qatar Trump

>>76512563
just look at wc played in europe and outside
you can really see how europeans heavily dominate in europe while the older squads usually choke outside of it
also tell that to southamericans who play qualis in La Paz for example

>>76512489
nobody expected Costa Rica to dominate the group, but seriously, England is shit and Italy had no team although meny people including me thought it would at least reach RO16 because it's Italy

>>76512702
>implying FIFA wouldn't just have the players wear radiation suits

>tfw Sweden isn't playing in CONMETRASH or CONCASHIT and get free World Cup qualification every time like these free loaders. It's a joke

To qualify for the 2014 World Cup we had to beat the 2014 World Cup winners and the Euro 2016 winners
Mexico literally fought against Jamaica and the likes for their spot
Uruguay fucking lost to Bolivia and made it

It's a joke, 18-20 UEFA spots is the only fair thing

>>76510036
>US, Mexico, and Costa Rica that they earned by making it to the Ro16 in case they have a stumble in qualifying like Mexico did last year.
And the Netherlands haven't?
Fuck you
Mexico didn't deserve to qualify

>>76512732
>CONMETRASH
9 world cups

sweden? 0 (zero)

>>76512732
Yeah and you beat absolute garbage like Austria, Ireland, Kazakhstan, and the Faroes to even get that opportunity.

>>76512155
Argentina got to the final of the world cup, dipshit

>>76511721
Are you forgetting puligod?

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>>76512056
>Armenia thinks it has the right to talk shit about Bolivia or Venezuela

>>76512732
>Sweden thinks it is an equal to Uruguay and Mexico
fucking rich

>>76508857
Are you implying that's the worst group?

D,E,F,H,I...

>>76512826
You would have gotten your asses whooped by Austria and probably Ireland as well. Don't kid yourself.
>>76512732
And now we have to face the Euro 2016 finalist and FIFA 2014 bronze medalists in the qualifier for the 2018 cup. The FIFA/UEFA executives sure fucking hate us for some reason.

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>>76512881
>waaaaaaahhhh our group is too hard

>>76512947
I'm just stating the facts dude. Imagine the American tears if only one team could qualify from Concashit.

>>76512798
Netherlands not qualifying isn't CONCACAF's fault, it's EUFA's fault for putting them in a group with Sweden and France instead of switching them with Montenegro in the easy shit Portugal group.

>>76512732
You said that like if countries like Germany or Portugal were conceived with default football talent. Everyone started from the ground, and your country that is geographically closer to England take more time to improve their football culture than the likes of Argentina, Uruguay and Brazil. What do you want? more spots based over the success of other countries? Why don't you just ask to start playing in Ro16 all mighty Sweden.

Literally and unironically git gud.

>>76512975
I would be angry with a world cup without the USA, but in the grand scheme of things its better to give the world cup a good variety of nations than having the same ones over and over again or having 30 teams from yurop and 5 teams from the rest of the world

It's called the World Cup, if you're not part of the best 16 yuro teams than you don't deserve to go, and if ever we're not part of the best 6 concabased teams then we don't deserve to go, its how it is.

We're not going to start giving out participation berths to the WC just because you niggers play in >m-muh uefa

>>76512874
>Uruguay
>loses to Peru
>have lost 5 (FIVE) matches already
>will qualify with no problem

>Mexico
>draws with Panama and USA
>will qualify with no problem

>Sweden
>beats France draws with Netherlands
>might not qualify

yea I know Urugay and Mexico are nowhere near our qualify of players or opponents

>>76513034
Panama would unironically beat Sweden

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>>76508952
>being this mad

>>76513034
Peru is better than Sweden

>>76513046
Panama would unironically draw with the USA it seems

They would have no chance in UEFA

>>76512975
>Imagine the American tears after we put them in a group with Germany, Portugal, and Ghana
>Imagine the American tears after England dominates this E A S Y group

The US has proven themselves time and time again. Stop bitching you bitch.

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>>76513067
>they literally can't beat Peru

"Oh Peru are better than Sweden I promise it's not us that's shit"

>>76513059

>get told
>hurrr you mad

americans are so cancerous

>>76513078
Argentina beat Portugal last time they faced each other, with ease.

Sweden got raped by Ronaldo alone.

>>76513100
Seriously, yuros are the most entitled crybabies
>hurr durr I needs more wc berths
>hurr durr it doesn't play in >m-muh uefa it must be bad

I can't wait for Panama and Sweden to qualify, and then for Panama to blow THE FUCK out of those nordcucks

Do Neverlands still have a chance?

>>76509000
did the op of that post ever follow up with another post?

>>76508854
>>76508917

YOU WANTED TO

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>mfw a poodaca and concashit posted about world cup qualifiers near me

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>>76513034
Considering the rest of your schedule, if you don't qualify then yes, you don't deserve to qualify.

>>76508820
those 6 teams are the whole of CONCACAF's final group, it's the final stage, only 3 will go directly to the WC I don't know about middle east group but the european one is one of several more.

I don't get the >implication here.

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>mfw a swedecuck is crying that he/she/xe simply has to play vs Bulgaria, vs Belarus, @ Luxembourg, and vs Netherlands and simply not choke away a 3 point lead

Omg it's so unfair

>>76513163
We don't want to hurt you by taking about the actual world cup.

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>>76513282
>mfw an American thinks that "Sweden - Luxembourg" mean's that Luxembourg has the home field and "Netherlands - Sweden" means that Sweden has the home field

>>76512732
Not saying you don't make a valid point but playing in La Paz Bolivia is a nightmare. It's like 12000ft above sea level. Uruguays basically sea level. It's probably the biggest home field advantage in the world in any sport due to the amount of running and altitude change involved.

Ive been to Ecuador which is almost as bad coming from a sea level state here. It takes some adjusting. Couldn't imagine running miles in a 2 hour timeframe and not dying.

>>76513034
Again, as another anon said, you need to foot some of that blame on uefa for using inaccurate autistic measures to put you in a group with two other good teams while a couple groups have 1 and 5 nobodies.

>>76513497
Ok, I'm genuinely confused as to what you're saying. Are you saying European sports don't order games away team - home team or something else? This is actually more interesting to me that taking the piss out of Sweden because there's something seriously wrong with your system in every scenario I can think of.

>>76513602
>American confused that rest of the world doesn't use their bad systems
Yes the rest of the world uses metric and the more logical Home - Away format

>>76513619
Lmao that's fuckin stupid. In the natural course of a thought process, you think team A is playing at team B's stadium. Yuro system is Yoda/Japanese backwards.

>>76513662
No it's your course of thought because that's what you've grown up with.
No other nation on earth uses Away - Home.

>>76513619
>>76513662
Why the fuck are you idiots arguing over this? Who fucking cares which way it's ordered either way once it's established a 5yo will understand it. It's not more "logical" one way lmao it's a one step procedure.

>>76513706
These are the kino discussions of sport though.

Just like why in some countries if you're right handed you play golf and perhaps baseball swinging from over your right shoulder but if you're playing hockey you're swinging over your left shoulder. Or that in some countries handedness doesn't really influence which way you hold your stick while in other countries it's basically 100% decided by handedness

>>76513100
>Argentina beat Portugal last time they faced each other, with ease.
Sócio, you lost the last match, in 2014. Unless you're recalling the 2011 match that Argentina won... with a penalty near full time whistle.

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>>76508820
>>76512732

Friendly reminder of the times were the first places of Europe go against the last place of CONCACAF

>>76513765
Friendly reminder that Sweden and England advanced from the group while CONMEBOL and CONCACAF were eliminated

Reminder that no non-UEFA team beat a single UEFA team in the playoff of either the 2006 or 2010 World Cups and that it wasn't until

>>76513818
Costa Rica beat Greece in 2014 that streak was broken. And that UEFA still eliminated 7 non-UEFA teams while only 4 UEFA teams were eliminated by non-UEFA teams (Argentina doing 3 and Costa Rica 1. Just goes to show how easy of a road Brazil were handed to the semifinal until they faced European opposition)

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So let me rephrase this then

>mfw a swedecuck is crying that he has to play vs 2 total scrubs, one away game vs a team ranked one spot lower than Panama in the FIFA rankings (Bulgaria), and then a game @ Netherlands and simply not choke a 3 point lead lead with the Netherlands still having to play a game @ France to qualify

If you don't qualify, you're a fuckin shit team.

>>76513901
>3 point lead
We're only ahead of France on goal difference
You see coming SECOND in UEFA doesn't give you automatic qualification, it doesn't even guarantee a playoff.

Having it as easy as CONCASHIT would be a dream

>>76508820
What does the "(Y)" next to Qatar mean?

>>76513955
probably that they can only advance through the playoff

>>76513845
Think long and hard about why this argument makes 0 sense.

>>76513955
free qualification for life
tybb (thank you based blatter)

>>76513955
Qatar cannot under any circumstances be marked "green". Instead, the team can still make it to the "blue" indicator.

>>76513931
CONCACAF is shit aside from Mexico and USA, but every continent deserves a few spots, else this would just be a Euro cup + friends like it used to be in the old days.

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>>76514021
If Costa Rica is shit, what does that say about the other three teams here?

>>76514021
a few, right now they have 60% and in the future it will be 70% (2026)

That's a fucking joke

>>76514050
It says that a three game group sometimes has surprises and the best teams are the ones who do it consistently rather than one offs. Welcome to the sport, btw.

>>76514050
You now remember that Costa Rica got refballed against the Neverlands.

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>>76514060
all the proof we need that UEFA needs at least about 60% of World Cup spots

>>76514137
Nice "point" you have there

>>76514050
They had the runthrough of their lives, so what?
That was an exception, not a rule. I've been following Costa Rica because of Bryan Ruiz and Joel Campbell and I know this too well.

Only Mexico and the US are capable of consistently passing the group stage.

>>76514165
I only need one to school an Ameriblob.

>>76514167
>consistently passing the group stage
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portugal_national_football_team#FIFA_World_Cup

Based on that criteria, Portugal is shit

>>76513931
Then your fit is with UEFA's choice of groupings than how many spots the World Cup has given the conference.

>US is automatically going to the world cup with 8 points
undeserved

>>76514137
Costa Rica was unironically the best team in that group. They made it the the round of 8 and got fucked by a shootout despite being the better team.

Please contain your delusion and butthurt.

>>76514298
There are 4 more games to go, dumbass

>>76514251
We've actually been to the semifinals more times than all CONCACAF teams combined. Other than that, yeah, our world cup record is still shitty.

But we perform well in the continental tournament that has the most chronic world cup champions and runner-ups.

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>>76514298
>England consistently hogging UEFA's spots only to choke in the WC

>>76514324
the fact that it is 6 games in and 8 points is still enough for an automatic WC spot is really embarrassing

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>>76514349
>tfw your nation has more World Cup top fours than entire continents

>>76514316
>despite being the better team

They were camped in their half for 120 minutes and had one shot on target.

Lesser teams can get out of groups because of lower sample size leads to variance, but when the knock outs begin they're just horribly outclassed, see the aforementioned game, or USA vs Belgium, one of the most one-sided games in WC history.

>>76514386
Well... after Brexit, maybe your teams can transfer over to CONCACAF. How about it?

>>76514316
The only reason England and Italy failed to qualify was because they rigged so they played in fucking Manaus so both teams died and couldn't recover

>>76514316
they were a shittier version of Wales tactically without a world class player

>>76514404
>Belgium completely outclassed the US

Not gonna give this bait any more than a YouTube link

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=UhItEAEeaRk

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>>76514498
>world class player
Then explain Englel

>>76514486
if anyone doubts this, only two teams that played in Manaus made it out of the groups and both lost in the RO16 (USA and Switzerland)

>>76514498
t. From Wales

>>76514515
You really should open your posts with "I don't watch this sport" so I could just disregard you instead of having to find it out through a few back and forths.

>>76514515
Tim Howard had the game of his life that made amerisharts claim he was a top 5 keeper

>>76514581
You should just open your posts with "my country has finished worse than the US in two straight WCs."

>>76514386
Well to be fair Mexico the only team they played twice and already played Costa Rica and Panama on the road. So those 6 games were as "difficult" as possible in a round robin in that group. No more Mexico and CR and Panama at home remaining.

>>76512461
this is revisionist history. aggressively so.

>>76513034
Australia would beat Sweden

>>76513075
don't forget the 2002 world cup and the 2009 confederations cup and the 2016 copa america. our only blemish this century is 2006

>>76514515
If Tim Howard didn't stand on his head in that game those 7-1 memes would be half directed at us.

>>76514663
Probably because he's from the US where we care more about international play than plastic club play.

US players ALWAYS look better in the WC than league because that's what we care about.

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>>76508955
>3 Euro R16ers

>>76514713
>Australia
>draws against Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Japan, Thailand

haha that's embarrassing mate

>>76514731
then why are you all sucking off that US player who plays for dirtmund. You all care since half your players are German

>>76514717
2009 Confed Cup was a cool tournament USA won FIFA and all that
but the Confed Cup is a big meme, bigger meme than Olympic football

>>76514717
Still only 3 wins 4 losses 5 draws in group stage though since 2002. Not very impressive when it's framed like that. Made it out of group 3/4 times but twice the US was 1-1-1 and got in on goal diff and once it took a last second miracle

>>76514828
>then why are you all sucking off that US player who plays for dirtmund. You all care since half your players are German

Because he's played great for the NT? Literally a vastly better start to his international career than Messi.

>>76512199
>That was in 2014
So what? You have to give the quates based on what happened in the past, not how you think the future will be. Still you don't have any way to show me how teams in Asia are better.
>>76512246
>but they are better than Paraguay, Ecuador or USA, they are easily on the level of your NT
Ok, proof?
Mexico always beats mid-tier teams in World Cups, so saying they are as good as Mexico is only based on sunjectivities
Croatia in 2014
France in 2010
Croatia in 2002 and tied with Italy

>>76510219
Syria will qualify. Calling it.

>>76514874
nobody is claiming they are dominant. Don't forget the insane refballing against slovenia that occurred, or the "last second miracle" that saw us drop points to portugal. We haven't be beneficiaries of great fortune, we've been adequate to consistently finish ahead of second-tier european teams.


>>76514845
this is pure nitpicking, and in that tournament they beat peak Spain, with all of their studs, who were genuinely playing hard.

For a European Nation aside the top teams Spain/Italy/Germany/France/England(pot 1 lol)/Portugal and the current Generation of Croatia/Poland it is pretty normal to not qualify for the WC.
Its not a matter of who is better from the nations that barely qualify from both Conmenbol and UEFA. It's all a matter of the campaign.
As previously said. A mediocre campaign of a conmenbol team can end up giving them the 5th spot which is an automatic qualification with 2 friendlies bonus for elo raising.
If a nation just beats all 9 matches at home, and one away with the considerably very weak Bolivia/Venezuela they end up with 30 points which in this qualification is going to be enough to qualify.
On the meantime. If one team in a European Group wins all 5 home matches and only one away against the low pot team they end up with 18 points which is not gonna be enough to get you instantly to the WC in any group, and the play-offs are a seeded incident, which means a good run of a mediocre team does not get rewarded, as there are gonna be teams like Spain,Portugal,France,Switzerland,Sweden(currently in a peak) who have far more quality than the teams in the 6th-8th positions in Conmenbol, who are the teams to beat, in order to qualify.
Moreover since you spoke about Greece, They gave a better show than your Uruguay in the R16 vs Costa Rica, and dominated the game. Costa Rica proved they re a small team against us, just underestimated from its Group of Death.

>>76514731
That's all you care about because you're a casual like 90% of people who follow international football.

Also pop quiz, how many world cup knock out games has the USA won in its history?

>>76514845
>Sweden
>0 Confed cup appearances

>>76514874
The US had never been embarrassed with a 7-1 loss though.

>>76514945
Yeah it guess it isn't fair to count Algeria as a miracle and dismiss the poortugal game

>>76514945
The win vs Spain was fantastic (I think it broke their unbeaten streak?), and while I think Spain went into to the tournament wanting to win it's a bit like the English League cup or Club World Cup of International football, they're not gonna say no to a win but do they give 100%? and not 90% they don't want to risk injuries or anything like that.

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>>76514957
>Calling me a casual as if that's supposed to offend me

Lmao, non-casual soccer fans in the US are fucking autistic cringy faggots that nobody should emulate. Our domestic league isn't worth watching, and there's you can't make a personal connection to plastic yuro clubs and the game times are wildly inconvenient.

Non-casual US soccer fans are cancer.

>>76514967
If we played in Concacaf we would've been at every Confed Cup and at every World Cup

The Swede's right tßh. Sick and tired of mongs rating each and every latin american national team just because their wood-legged, hay-headed shitters have the same surnames as Argentinians and Spaniards.

>>76514947
Didn't you lose home and away to Faroe Islands?

Anyway, CONCACAF probably doesn't deserve 4 spots, but if you can't finish top 13 in UEFA you don't deserve to be in the WC. You're scraping the barrel, there's plenty of wank in Europe. England every game in Euro qualifying ffs. Inb4 'their group was shit'. Just more excuses. It had a Swiss team everyone was rating like they are current Poland or whatever meme team

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>>76514957
1 (one)

and it was >Mexico

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>>76508951
I love that man
http://thesefootballtimes.co/2017/04/11/carlos-queiroz-the-man-for-a-nation/

The World Cup should just be 26 European teams plus Brazil, Argentina, Japan, Australia, Mexico and the USA depending on what Trump is doing.

>>76514967
I forget the confed cup existed. You can lose half your games in that competition and still get to the final lol

>>76515123
Bro the only reason England remains top 1 is because of their qualifying campaigns. They do nothing in World Cups and Euros (as proven). Barely qualified from the Groupstage in 2016, Barely scraped points in the 2014.
If you look at our runs from 2010 WC, 2012 Euro, 2014 WC there s not much of a difference.
The only difference was made from one Campaign.
England might have a multimillion roster but honestly, you haven't done much more than the teams that barely qualify, And with Poland Croatia and Italy on the Peak, I really wonder how long you will keep that pot 1 place of yours.

>>76515169
Omit Australia and I agree

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>>76515169
Gay

>>76515220
Scrap that, just noticed there are 10 European teams on top of you right now. You might actually not be a pot 1 team for the Euro 2020, not like it matters though. 32 teams(at best) are relevant and 24 teams go through.

>>76515220
Bongs don't realize their players are all crazily overpaid scrubs that get huge money because of their marketing value.

That's why they always disappoint in WC play.

>>76515123
While for most teams it's true, because of the luck of the draw some times pretty much impossible to qualify. Sweden 2014 is a prime example. To qualify it all boiled down to we had to beat either Germany or Portugal over two legs. (it's pretty much a must to win every other qualification game)
Find any team with a draw of that difficulty to reach the World Cup

>>76515220
Except it's not a cycle. You earn your pot 1 berth. Look at Wales - did well, got pot 1 and then royally fucked up and won't even make the playoffs. You have to put the points up. There aren't teams nipping at England's heels, it's just varying degrees of mediocrity. Accept UEFA isn't as great as you think it is despite you losing twice to Faroe Islands.

>>76514137
lol britcuck IQ, what even is this

>>76515263
But we do. Nobody knows how shit England is more than us, but when it comes to tournaments we're brave/stupid enough to believe.
Like how women forget the pain of childbirth

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>>76515263
This, let's hope they stay that way.

>>76515288
Wales could likely make the play offs if they don't lose to Austria in Cardiff. Wales are just drawing way too much and suspensions for key players doesn't help

>>76515279
>Must either beat Germany or Portugal

Hmm gee, that does sound familiar. Oh yeah, the US basically had to do the same thing, except they tied Portugal in a neutra location instead of getting their asses beat both home and away.

>>76515089
This is a really good point euros should take to heart. I guarantee you the vast majority of legitimate discussions you have with Americans on here about soccer are with megacasuals that just like and understand sports on a macro level in general.

>>76515383
You only had to play two matches instead of 4
We actually drew with Germany in Berlin. And two close matches vs Portugal is hardly "getting your asses beat". Especially when the second loss was only because we had to chase another goal while leading, but ofc you didn't see the games so you don't know what you're talking about

>>76512845
And lost. That is the definition of failure.

>>76515550
losing 4-0 to them last year was a failure too

>>76512509
Just like Mexico in the eighties. Although to be fair, by 1982 we all thought Colombia would host the WC in 1986.

>>76515524
Dude, Sweden got screwed by not making the last World Cup and nobody denies it, but instead of blaming UEFA scheduling like you should, you pathetically latch to European dominance and start blaming conferences like CONCACAF which did very well in the last World Cup and proved they deserved to be there.

It's called the World fucking Cup for gods sake and the appeal is that the entire world competes. Nobody wants to see the Euros repeating on the World stage.

>>76515679
What? Mexico had played 6 World Cups before they hosted the 1970 World Cup

ITT: delusional yuros that can only really ride on Germany's coattails while shouting MUH HISTORY and WE WUZ WORLD CUP CHAMPIONS N SHIT

>>76515754
A success would be if a CONCACAF team made it to a semi

>>76515919
A success would be England scoring more than 1 (One) point in the group stages.

>>76515919
87 years since last time

>>76515919
If only this shit archaic sport had instant replay:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bg3psAYfOv8

>>76515982
It's not handball if the ball hits the hand involuntarily

England would've been World Cup winners in 86 if we had instant replay, would you like that?

>>76515982
By rule, USA should be granted a PK and that German player should be red carded.

>>76516070
>1986

By then, FIFA just started bringing in television cameras. One step at a time here.

>>76516106
They broadcasted the 1958 World Cup live on tv mate

>>76516070
Here's your (You)

>>76514940
Which part?

>>76516132
That wasn't TV. That was newspaper.

>>76516268
No it was on TV

>>76516329
If FIFA had TV then, explain why FIFA is technologically inferior now.

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>>76516507
You realise it's a choice they've made to NOT use replays?

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>>76516561
Well, it's a dumbass choice. Now what?

>>76516676
The technology to use video replay without ruining the flow of the game is being developed right now though
Even in the NFL or NHL you can't watch every little thing on tv replay or challenge every call

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>>76516744
Challenges are either limited (in terms of number) or by the organization itself. For example, NFL coaches are limited to 2 challenge calls, while the NFL can take over after the 2 minute warning.

In turn, FIFA can do something similar, where challenge calls are limited to critical calls inside the box. This includes verification of goals, already implemented by goal line technology and calls which may or may not involve penalty kicks. Overall, these things are meant to assist referees to do their jobs properly and enforce the game rules as they are written.

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>ITT: obsessed yuropoors

>>76516947
Well as I said they're developing and testing it right now
For example the U20 World Cup used video replays. In the final they checked if a penalty was correct.

http://www.fifa.com/u20worldcup/news/y=2017/m=6/news=var-progressing-at-u-20-world-cup-2893235.html

Absolutely ridiculous that poverty teams such as USA and Costa Rica get a free pass to the WC while the Ireland teams and Wales are either gonna go through playoffs or not qualify. Such teams would destroy their pacific counterparts

>>76517471
USA and Costa Rica are better than Ireland though

>>76517576
Northern Ireland would beat both teams in a competitive competition. Better defense and better midfield as well as better management. Ireland are much less predictable in terms of results but I'd put money on them at least beating the USA

>>76517724
Lol

>>76517471
>>76517724
See
>>76517193

USA has proved time and time again about the team's capability to be competitive against European teams.

>>76517724
i really don't understand how you guys keep making these claims with a straight face, the past 15 years worth of evidence be damned

>>76517854
It's EPL delusional psychosis.

>>76517834
>>76517851
>>76517854
So which American player bar Wood and Pulisic would get into the NI team? Ah yes... That's correct... None

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>>76518079
And that's how you judge this shit? Now wonder UK based teams fail often.

>>76518079
brooks and cameron, maybe fabian johnson. wood and pulisic literally aren't even our best players

moreover, what you are doing is speculating on something that doesn't necessarily translate to wins/losses. however, the US has consistently finished ahead of european teams in the WC. this should be obvious to you, but its apparently not - the euro teams that qualified for the WC outperformed the euro teams that did not. Transitive property obviously doesn't apply, but the evidence is comprehensively stacked against you.

>>76518079
Still better in World Cups than England. Makes me think.

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>>76518079

>>76508868
surely you'll make it over montenegro, right?

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>>76508820
>dick around for five of ten games
>still qualify because the hex is piss-easy

>>76518239
judged on how European qualifiers work. UEFA basically go easy on the other confederations by only guaranteeing 1 team per group a spot in the WC. If more teams were guaranteed a place per group, CONCACAF teams would get humiliated time and time again

>>76508946

>it doesn't work that way burger

t. random 3rd worlder on 4chan

Clearly it does work this way. It's the World Cup, not the European Cup.

>>76518625
dude, they already aren't getting humiliated against the teams that were better than the ones that failed to qualify. You have to use words like "would" to argue this, we get to use words like "did".

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>>76518625
>more teams
You stupid fuck. Euro teams already outnumber CONCACAF teams by 3 to 1.

>>76518685
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQamAiW74HA

Holy good christ.... Tragic. Embarrassing. The USA HUMILIATED by the lesser Ireland team.

>>76508868
>third in the group below montengro, who Iran recently beat 2-1 away from home
your fault desu

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>>76518786
a bridge too far, sweetie

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>>76518786
>citing a friendly

Hey keep it up. You're getting stupider with each post.

>>76518874
>USA fans travel all the way to europe only for their team to treat a friendly like an u20s game

So... you're admitting to your national team having no honour? That's the first step to acknowledging how shit the USA are

>>76518950

t. 1 (one) point

>I rate European teams
the majority of your confederation is absolute trash (balkans with their stars that cant play for shit together or teams like iceland who punch far above their weight)

The only respectable teams are the very top, such as Spain, Italy, Germany, and France. Don't even bring up Croatia, Portugal, or England who are not capable of doing anything in WCs in the modern era. Angers me when yuroshits think Bosnia or Ireland or Sweden are better than the top of CONCACAF because they scrape random wins against Germany or France every once in a while. If and when CONCACAF manages to get 3 out of their 4 representatives to the Ro16 again and 1 or 2 in the quarter-finals you'll be seething.

>>76512732
>Sweden trying to look as good as Mexico or Uruguay
Kek

>>76519081
Let's just remember some results from recent major competitions shall we?

Wales 3 - Belgium 1
USA 1 - Belgium 2

Holy shit.. A modern tragedy. A global embarrassment. How the fuck can you live with yourselves, knowing that Hal Robson-Kanu is worth more than your entire squad?

>>76519159
*loses to iceland and costa rica*
*celebrates draws against wales and scotland*

Friendly reminder that the only 2 teams to advance from every groupstage since the 1994 world cup are Brazil and Mexico

while Mexico are not the best team, they are certainly better then most.

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Which is better?

A fan of England soccer

or

A Cleveland sports fan